1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Right, So let's get a bit of an explainer about 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: what is actually happening now in the case of Darling Tana. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: As it stands, she was elected on the Greens list 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: but resigned her membership of the party. In her electorate, 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: she came a distant third with fewer than three thousand votes. 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: So Darling Tanna released her statement in the past half 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: hour saying she does not accept the findings of the 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: report and is deeply concerned by the party's summary of 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: the findings. She says the report does not say that 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: migrant exploitation occurred, let alone that she is responsible for 11 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: it in any capacity. Tanna says she's only had a 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: short time to consider the report and will be taking 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: some time to consider it. So political analyst Bryce Edwards 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: from Victoria University of Wellington is with us. Now, how 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: you doing, Bryce? Not so bad, Francesca, what do you 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: make of Darling's response? 17 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: Oh? Look, this is her only response she can make. 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: If she wants to fight to stay in parliament, she 19 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: will have to contest what the Greens are saying, and 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: if she is to have any sort of argument justication 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: for staying, it's that she hasn't been treated fairly and 22 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: that the investigation is in correct. Otherwise it's hard to 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: see how she's got a leg to stand on. So yeah, 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: it's quite surprising, and until the Greens are ready to 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: release that report, it's really hard for the public to 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: judge her arguments that she's still innocent. 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: What are the options here for Darling stay as an independent? 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's been elected and to write to stay 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: there and release the Greens bring in the walker jumping legislation. 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: All they have to do is essentially right to the Speaker. 31 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: There's a bit more to it. They need to get 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: the permission of their membership and they need to give 33 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: Darling to a twenty one day's notice and a chance 34 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 2: for her to address this idea. But essentially they write 35 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: to the Speaker and say, look, we've lost one of 36 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: our MPs, Darling Tana is no longer a Green member 37 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: of Caucus and that thoughts the proportionality of Parliament, and 38 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: then the Speaker essentially dismisses her. But of course whether 39 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: they do that is a big question because the Queens 40 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: have always opposed. 41 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: The close the walker jump and go don't they. 42 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: Yes, But of course they now benefit from it, so 43 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: they're going to have to. I mean, unless Darling Tana 44 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: chooses to resign, they're going to have to decide whether 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: they just put up with her being there, or whether 46 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: they look like hypocrites or opportunists by using something they 47 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: are fundamentally opposed to. 48 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: Surprise, how do you say this whole thing playing out. 49 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: Look at the hard to say at the stage, but 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: I think she's likely Darling Tana is likely to stay 51 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: as an independent. She could even join a party, liked 52 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: Party Mary, because the way it's going to be very 53 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: lonely with here by herself in Parliament, and you know, 54 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: she'll be und a huge pressure, so it won't be 55 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: an easy ride if she chooses the step. And but 56 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: of course it might just the pressure might get to 57 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: her and she might just want to move away from 58 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: politics and tailing. 59 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: I think we'd all quite like to move on Bryce 60 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixteen days. You know, this investigation's gone on. 61 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: We're all over it. 62 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: It is quite fastical and the Greens haven't really fronted 63 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: up about why it's taking so long and why they 64 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: haven't been more transparent about what's going on. And so 65 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: I don't think there's a lot of sympathy at the 66 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: moment for the Greens or Darlene Tanner, and it doesn't 67 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: really reflect well on any of them at the moment, 68 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: so I think they're all kind of the losers in 69 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: this situation. 70 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: Bryce Edwards, thank you very much for more from Hither 71 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: Duplessye Alan Drive. 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