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Speaker 2: Hello, Great New Zealand, and welcome to Matt and Tyler

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Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number three one five, the twenty fifth

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Speaker 2: of March. It's a Wednesday. I've been away but I'm back.

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Speaker 2: You are enjoyed the show today?

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Speaker 3: It great?

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Speaker 2: I really really enjoyed it. Pie chat at the end

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Speaker 2: was great. Cosmos is great New Zealand. It was good

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Speaker 2: to talk to him about the rules of pies. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: we had a crazy chat after turn. I can't really

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Speaker 2: remember what it was about.

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Speaker 3: Hagling with a dentist, hangling with you and what sort

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Speaker 3: of car shout a dentist drive?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And is self industry a good idea?

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Speaker 3: And met plays a song? No it plays a song

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Speaker 3: that is going viral at the moment, but be warned,

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Speaker 3: incredibly dangerous to all who hear it. So it's a

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Speaker 3: great show. Download, subscribe and give us a review.

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Speaker 2: Yep, he seemed busy. Will let you listen to the pie,

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Speaker 2: give a taste to give you all?

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Speaker 4: Right, then bye bye, Love, Big stories, the leak, issues,

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Speaker 4: living trends and everything in between.

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Speaker 5: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon Squif Schudder News Talk, Saivy.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You welcome into the show, Into the show.

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Speaker 3: It is six past one. Great to have your company

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Speaker 3: on this Wednesday after Know, Matt, how are you, my friends.

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Speaker 2: I'm very good. I'm looking forward to some moody weather,

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Speaker 2: me too, a bet of you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of hysterics in the media. There is about a bit

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Speaker 2: of weather coming, a bit of weather coming, m h.

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Speaker 2: But a clickbait about the weather. But I'm actually looking

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Speaker 2: forward to a bit of rain two, a bit of

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Speaker 2: sitting inside with him. It's going.

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Speaker 3: I got my fire ready to go. The fire is

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Speaker 3: ready to be sparked up. Man, I'm fizzing for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, love a rainy night. As the song says. Now,

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Speaker 3: just before we get into the show, just quick question

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Speaker 3: for you, met and for our audience. So it's May's

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Speaker 3: birthday in a couple of days time, and she's really

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Speaker 3: looking forward to it. Yep, it's been hyped up a

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Speaker 3: lot on your sides. But the question I've got for

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Speaker 3: birthday cake for here right, I get somebody else to

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Speaker 3: myself too, to make a cake for her. Not much

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Speaker 3: of a baker. I've actually never baked a cake in

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Speaker 3: my life. Here's question for you. Moist moist. You've got

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Speaker 3: to go moists. It's not a moist cake. Chuck it out.

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Speaker 2: The most important thing is the moisteness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to have a moisty cake. Absolutely moist.

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Speaker 3: My question for you is it's going to trigger a

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Speaker 2: If she throw your engagement ring down the encincorator.

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Speaker 2: But people say I can't bake, or I can bake.

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Speaker 2: Whenever people get baking wrong, it's because they go, no, actually,

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Speaker 2: I'll just do that, or they the cavalier with their measurements.

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Speaker 2: If you just follow it exactly, then you'll make a

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Speaker 3: You can't go wrong. But do you like me that

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Speaker 2: She'll love you even more, I hope. So I really

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Speaker 2: today's show after three o'clock. Powerful story out of China.

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Speaker 2: So seven dogs in a small province. They went missing

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Speaker 3: He was the leader of this ragtag group who escaped

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Speaker 3: and they managed to get home. The corgy helped keep

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Speaker 3: like a Disney movie.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like the plot to a Pixar movie. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so some dogs, seven corgies, did.

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Speaker 3: But was the leader. The corgy was a leader.

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Speaker 2: Corgy was the leader. So they're off to the neckers yard.

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Speaker 2: They're off to get chopped up to be for food

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Speaker 2: when they escape. That's right, Yeah, what kind of scummy's dog? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: The thing is the Corgy let out? So a Corgy's

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Speaker 2: the greatest breed of dogs? Are they the king of

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Speaker 3: Corgy up there, to be honest, don't know much about Corgy's.

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Speaker 3: The queen had a couple. They seem like good doggies.

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Speaker 2: But other than that, the Queen was a great woman.

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Speaker 2: She was a great leader, so maybe that's why she

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Speaker 2: picked Corgy. So Corgy's natural leaders. Shall we all get

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Speaker 3: That is after three o'clock looking forward to your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Then after two o'clock going to the dentist can be

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Speaker 3: pretty terrifying for a lot of people, not just on

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Speaker 3: argues that it's perfectly reasonable to question the bill and

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Speaker 2: Because you don't know and you and it's expensive right

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Speaker 3: I just don't want to haggle for a medical procedure,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, like, I know, people say you're

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Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, looking forward to your thoughts on that after

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Speaker 3: two o'clock. I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Is

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Speaker 3: Jesse Dench. He's a sixteen year old from Carpany, So

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Speaker 3: he says he was left confused and frustrated after applying

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Speaker 3: do things. She said Jesse was a trained barrista at

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Speaker 3: He recently got his license and bought a mopeds and

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Speaker 2: He sounds entrepreneurial, it does. He sounds like just the

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Speaker 2: kind of person you'd want at your workplace. So he

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Speaker 2: applied online, but then he was asked to complete a

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Speaker 2: written chat style interview through Australian hiring platform sapier ai,

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Speaker 2: and that gives you feedback, so they've sent him to

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Speaker 2: someone obviously that gives them feedback, which is a strange

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Speaker 3: It's brutal, brutal for a sixteen year old.

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Speaker 2: So why is war sending people onto this chat style

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's some big questions to ask there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how many people were a bit bung on

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Speaker 2: that person's turned out to be awesome. That happens all

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Speaker 2: the time. We hear about that all the time, when

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Speaker 2: their training wasn't up to scratch, when they didn't have

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Speaker 2: someone just got a good vibe in the interview and

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Speaker 2: they took a little bit of a key. We chance

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Speaker 2: that story is as old as time, isn't it. We're

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Speaker 2: slowly working out how limited AI is. It's dumb when

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Speaker 2: it comes to anything human. It is so dumb. Human

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Speaker 2: to human interactions and the complexities of friendships and relationships

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Speaker 2: and workmates aren't just numbers and qualifications, right they are.

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Speaker 2: They can be buddies, and that they can be hugely

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Speaker 2: important for the positive vibes in the workplace or incredibly

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Speaker 2: bad for the vibes in the workplace. Yep, you know,

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Speaker 2: someone that might have the same the same figures on

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Speaker 2: paper may just be a worse person to work with

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Speaker 2: and actually destroy your company from within with the horrible politics.

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Speaker 2: This happens a lot, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: Some of the best leaders right go personality hire as

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Speaker 3: they call it. People are they going to fit in

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Have you ever taken

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Speaker 3: And have you ever taken a punt on someone who

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Speaker 2: Well I did Fergus, welcome to the show. You take

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Speaker 11: Look, I'm an employer in Wellington and we've just got

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Speaker 2: What kind of industry are you in, Fergus hospitality? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 11: So my summer is like AI is a good tool

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Speaker 2: How much is projection, sorry, Tyler, how much is projection

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Speaker 8: Actual right.

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Speaker 11: Interesting, pretty amazing.

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Speaker 12: No, no, not at all.

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Speaker 11: that is like every film is different, of course, so

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Speaker 3: Right, do you get specifications from the actual you know,

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Speaker 11: No, there they really I don't really care about us anymore.

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Speaker 11: Unfortunately it sucks, So just give us the films and

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Speaker 2: So what what's the what theater are you running? What

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Speaker 2: A right? Okay, well thank you Fergus, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I love going to the movies. Just went we just

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Speaker 2: You've got to see that in the theater. You've got

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Speaker 11: The need support at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, get out to the movies and your fergus

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Speaker 3: But it sounds like a great employer as well. So

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Speaker 3: are you like a figure? Do you take a bit

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Speaker 3: It's very much a tool off portable versions.

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Speaker 2: You're a bit of a tool.

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Speaker 2: Fonterra does AI interviews too, says this text, I did

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Speaker 3: It seems risky as well. So have you ever hired

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Speaker 3: Eight one hundred eight ten eighty is that number to

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Speaker 15: Given ourselves a clear exit rampomly conscious that those low

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Speaker 14: You don't know what they drive. If the family's driving

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Speaker 15: Well, you are right that those family circumstances will vary,

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Speaker 3: A good afternoons. It's twenty eight pass one. So have

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Speaker 16: Good afternoons, gentlemen, Thank you so much for really enjoying

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Speaker 16: the topic of conversation. We look while I understand the

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Speaker 16: I'm quite old school in myself, having spent twenty five

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Speaker 16: for the large national chains. I've literally hired hundreds of

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Speaker 16: come in. They're presented great, they talk great, they present

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Speaker 16: hire someone that has a great smile, that's easy to

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Speaker 16: talk to, that has a great happy disposition, that's trainable

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Speaker 2: Good on you, Mitchell. That's an up blasting message, have

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Speaker 2: you how I mean? I'm immediately saying, sen up of

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Speaker 2: the message that I'm gonna ask a negative question. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: but what's your success rate on your vibes about people?

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Speaker 17: Oh?

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Speaker 16: Look, you get it right and you get it wrong,

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Speaker 7: I always love to take young people.

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Speaker 16: out of high school of that's then going on to

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Speaker 16: tertiary studies and you can keep them, if you can

439
00:20:02,773 --> 00:20:05,213
Speaker 16: keep them on the books for you for the next three,

440
00:20:05,333 --> 00:20:10,333
Speaker 16: four or five years as a returning people. Their gold.

441
00:20:10,533 --> 00:20:14,013
Speaker 16: And that's actually what a lot of our retail survives

442
00:20:14,053 --> 00:20:17,933
Speaker 16: on as young people at students. And you know, if

443
00:20:17,973 --> 00:20:19,453
Speaker 16: you can get if you can get us to call

444
00:20:19,453 --> 00:20:21,812
Speaker 16: them a freshy like a fresh meat, and you can

445
00:20:21,853 --> 00:20:24,373
Speaker 16: get a freshy and you can train them in the

446
00:20:24,413 --> 00:20:28,973
Speaker 16: ways of the force, then you've you know. And the

447
00:20:29,013 --> 00:20:32,253
Speaker 16: great thing is when you hire someone that's in tertiary

448
00:20:32,293 --> 00:20:34,693
Speaker 16: study or they're a student and they come back, you know,

449
00:20:34,773 --> 00:20:36,893
Speaker 16: they come back to your doing stry holidays and stuff

450
00:20:36,893 --> 00:20:39,573
Speaker 16: like that, you don't have to retrain them every time.

451
00:20:39,933 --> 00:20:42,613
Speaker 7: They're brilliant. I love young people.

452
00:20:42,693 --> 00:20:45,532
Speaker 16: My eighteen year old daughter has just actually got a

453
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Speaker 16: job at Walworths and has been through this experience, and

454
00:20:48,733 --> 00:20:53,613
Speaker 16: she herself does have or suggests he's neurodivergent. But there's

455
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Speaker 16: there's things about her that make you a little bit different.

456
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Speaker 16: And I always concerned that she wasn't going to get

457
00:21:00,173 --> 00:21:02,453
Speaker 16: the job because you know, she wasn't going to get

458
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Speaker 16: to the next part. But she did and she is

459
00:21:04,493 --> 00:21:08,293
Speaker 16: and that's great. But I know people that have also

460
00:21:08,533 --> 00:21:10,133
Speaker 16: not been able to get to the end of your stage.

461
00:21:10,333 --> 00:21:14,253
Speaker 16: But sometimes you can't beat And I've had this debate

462
00:21:14,333 --> 00:21:16,853
Speaker 16: with my kids for the years. Print offs and copies

463
00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:19,812
Speaker 16: rock up to the front counter telling me who you

464
00:21:20,253 --> 00:21:20,613
Speaker 16: tell him?

465
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Speaker 8: Why?

466
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Speaker 16: They hear and say that listen, I've applied online, but

467
00:21:23,853 --> 00:21:25,573
Speaker 16: you know what, I just wanted to bring you a

468
00:21:25,653 --> 00:21:27,733
Speaker 16: heart copy because I wanted you to get a size

469
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Speaker 16: of the person.

470
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

471
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Speaker 16: Yeah, a lot of young people struggle with that, but

472
00:21:32,133 --> 00:21:33,853
Speaker 16: I would appreciate that.

473
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Speaker 6: Yeah, if I was.

474
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Speaker 7: The hirer, you know what I mean.

475
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Speaker 2: It's such a huge difference in retail whether you get

476
00:21:41,013 --> 00:21:42,933
Speaker 2: someone because you know you can get that. You go

477
00:21:42,973 --> 00:21:45,893
Speaker 2: into a store sometimes and the person's won the counter

478
00:21:45,933 --> 00:21:49,253
Speaker 2: and they couldn't give less of a crap, and you

479
00:21:49,413 --> 00:21:51,853
Speaker 2: get kind of you feel resentful and if you walk

480
00:21:51,893 --> 00:21:53,733
Speaker 2: into the store and you feel like you're getting in

481
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Speaker 2: their way, and then you have some people that are

482
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Speaker 2: getting paid the same amount as that person but take

483
00:21:58,813 --> 00:22:02,853
Speaker 2: an interest in you upsell you. I went into what

484
00:22:03,013 --> 00:22:04,493
Speaker 2: was that, Yeah, I guess I can say the name

485
00:22:04,493 --> 00:22:07,253
Speaker 2: of businesses. I went to rod and Gunn and Wellington

486
00:22:07,293 --> 00:22:10,733
Speaker 2: recently and the person behind the counter was just amazing.

487
00:22:10,893 --> 00:22:13,333
Speaker 2: I ended up spending so much money just because they

488
00:22:14,173 --> 00:22:18,052
Speaker 2: started talking about the length of my legs and then

489
00:22:18,133 --> 00:22:20,533
Speaker 2: started talking to my partner and made made a friendship

490
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Speaker 2: with my partner and it was just and it was

491
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Speaker 2: just a really pleasant experience. And you didn't get the

492
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Speaker 2: feeling that they were they were trying to hard sell you,

493
00:22:28,013 --> 00:22:30,693
Speaker 2: but they were just into it and interested in people.

494
00:22:30,893 --> 00:22:33,093
Speaker 2: And I thought that person working on that counter at

495
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Speaker 2: that Roden gun is worth so much to that.

496
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Speaker 16: There's company, Yeah, there's there's two times of there's two

497
00:22:39,173 --> 00:22:42,853
Speaker 16: times of salespeople. There's order takers, there's sales maggers.

498
00:22:43,053 --> 00:22:45,173
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so a lot of them.

499
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Speaker 16: Are just there to take your order. They're transacting an order.

500
00:22:48,773 --> 00:22:52,253
Speaker 16: That's so that's all they're doing. And I've I've gone

501
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Speaker 16: into stores where I've become the manager in the store

502
00:22:54,773 --> 00:22:57,213
Speaker 16: and maybe you've moved down location whatever, you know. And

503
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Speaker 16: I've said to people, you're not smiling very much on

504
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Speaker 16: the job, but what's going on?

505
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Speaker 7: They're like, Oh, I don't like talking to people.

506
00:23:02,973 --> 00:23:06,253
Speaker 16: And I'm thinking to myself, if you hadn't.

507
00:23:06,053 --> 00:23:08,213
Speaker 7: Told me at your interview you didn't like.

508
00:23:08,173 --> 00:23:10,773
Speaker 16: To people, do you think I would have given you

509
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Speaker 16: the job?

510
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Speaker 7: You know much spentials. Yeah, I've got a tap for

511
00:23:18,893 --> 00:23:20,013
Speaker 7: someone else and hide them.

512
00:23:21,093 --> 00:23:22,773
Speaker 2: I've got a tap for people working in retail because

513
00:23:22,773 --> 00:23:24,173
Speaker 2: I used to work retail for a long time in

514
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Speaker 2: record stores when I was kid younger, and I used

515
00:23:27,453 --> 00:23:29,053
Speaker 2: to be standing behind the carner and do nothing. And

516
00:23:29,053 --> 00:23:30,493
Speaker 2: then one day I decided, I'm going to be the

517
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Speaker 2: best employee i can and I'm going to talk to

518
00:23:32,933 --> 00:23:35,333
Speaker 2: people about music, and I'm going to meet people behind

519
00:23:35,613 --> 00:23:37,973
Speaker 2: in front of the counter. And the day goes so

520
00:23:38,173 --> 00:23:41,093
Speaker 2: much faster if you're engaged and you're trying to solve

521
00:23:41,133 --> 00:23:44,733
Speaker 2: the person's problem for them, as opposed to you watching

522
00:23:44,733 --> 00:23:49,053
Speaker 2: the clock. It's actually for you as the employee, your purpose.

523
00:23:49,093 --> 00:23:49,813
Speaker 2: It's a bit of time.

524
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Speaker 9: Yeah.

525
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, there's nothing like the day. And I used to

526
00:23:55,973 --> 00:23:56,773
Speaker 7: say to my stuff.

527
00:23:56,813 --> 00:23:59,093
Speaker 16: You know what, if there's no one to serve, there's

528
00:23:59,133 --> 00:24:01,773
Speaker 16: always cleaning that you can do. Go do some cleaning,

529
00:24:01,813 --> 00:24:04,333
Speaker 16: Go clean some shelves, just read the floor.

530
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Speaker 6: People.

531
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Speaker 16: People are attracted the other things that are like people

532
00:24:08,733 --> 00:24:11,292
Speaker 16: like going to places that are busy. If you ever

533
00:24:11,333 --> 00:24:13,973
Speaker 16: walk past a restaurant that's got nobody in it, right,

534
00:24:14,253 --> 00:24:16,653
Speaker 16: you just want to go to the restaurant. But business

535
00:24:16,653 --> 00:24:20,733
Speaker 16: attracts business. And if you're standing behind the counter looking bored,

536
00:24:21,373 --> 00:24:23,813
Speaker 16: then that's not attractive to anybody. But if you will

537
00:24:23,853 --> 00:24:26,733
Speaker 16: past the place, a people in his activity in there,

538
00:24:26,853 --> 00:24:30,973
Speaker 16: something's happening, something's going on, right, it creates it.

539
00:24:30,973 --> 00:24:32,893
Speaker 7: It creates a spark of interest. So well I might

540
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Speaker 7: try that.

541
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh good on you, Mitchell.

542
00:24:35,573 --> 00:24:36,413
Speaker 2: You sound like a good man.

543
00:24:36,533 --> 00:24:39,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, very onto it. So do you agree with Mitchell?

544
00:24:39,133 --> 00:24:43,053
Speaker 3: A you like Mitchell? Do you judge a person based

545
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Speaker 3: on what you see when you meet them, even if

546
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Speaker 3: they do have a bad cv or don't look great

547
00:24:46,853 --> 00:24:48,933
Speaker 3: on paper? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

548
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Speaker 3: the number to call headlines with Raylene coming up?

549
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552
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553
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Speaker 2: Just released figures are.

554
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Speaker 13: Current to Sunday, when there were forty eight point seven

555
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556
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Speaker 13: last Wednesday, but diesel supply is up slightly forty six

557
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Speaker 13: point four days compared to forty five point five on Wednesday.

558
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566
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, ry Lane Slvasiquish And have you

570
00:26:08,773 --> 00:26:11,853
Speaker 3: ever trusted your instincts and hired someone who didn't shine

571
00:26:11,893 --> 00:26:14,293
Speaker 3: on paper but stood out to you face to face.

572
00:26:14,453 --> 00:26:17,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's some AI muppet that's been giving bad

573
00:26:17,093 --> 00:26:18,853
Speaker 2: feedback to Jesse.

574
00:26:18,693 --> 00:26:21,533
Speaker 3: Dench, sixteen year old from company saying that he wasn't

575
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Speaker 3: going to get on with other people. And what was

576
00:26:23,653 --> 00:26:25,173
Speaker 3: the other criticism that they had of him?

577
00:26:25,293 --> 00:26:27,093
Speaker 2: Some dirty Australian hiring platform.

578
00:26:27,253 --> 00:26:29,653
Speaker 3: You were not one to try new things easily. How

579
00:26:29,693 --> 00:26:32,133
Speaker 3: do you know AI? It is some some tool.

580
00:26:32,373 --> 00:26:34,213
Speaker 2: What were those balls that used to shake? Were they

581
00:26:34,253 --> 00:26:37,093
Speaker 2: called eight balls? What are they the magic Major eight balls?

582
00:26:37,133 --> 00:26:39,493
Speaker 2: It was kind of like that just gives a random response.

583
00:26:40,093 --> 00:26:42,053
Speaker 2: You're not very good with people? What what you know?

584
00:26:44,053 --> 00:26:45,253
Speaker 3: Give me a shakey or no?

585
00:26:45,533 --> 00:26:45,733
Speaker 7: Yeah.

586
00:26:46,693 --> 00:26:48,613
Speaker 2: I didn't have a CV at my first job since

587
00:26:48,613 --> 00:26:50,773
Speaker 2: this text. In my first interview, I started by being

588
00:26:50,853 --> 00:26:52,813
Speaker 2: so nervous I forgot my own name, and then went

589
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Speaker 2: on to tell them that I was so keen to

590
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Speaker 2: start anywhere that I would scrub their toilets for a

591
00:26:56,773 --> 00:26:59,413
Speaker 2: month with my own toothbrush just to have something to

592
00:26:59,453 --> 00:27:02,292
Speaker 2: start a CV. And they impressed enough that the company

593
00:27:02,293 --> 00:27:04,613
Speaker 2: owner came to tell me I had the job, but

594
00:27:04,853 --> 00:27:06,493
Speaker 2: to go get it. But did you have to use

595
00:27:06,533 --> 00:27:08,173
Speaker 2: the toothbrush on the on the toilet?

596
00:27:08,333 --> 00:27:10,133
Speaker 3: Sounds like they did, Roger.

597
00:27:10,573 --> 00:27:11,413
Speaker 2: How are you today?

598
00:27:12,453 --> 00:27:12,653
Speaker 17: Yeah?

599
00:27:12,773 --> 00:27:12,973
Speaker 9: Good?

600
00:27:12,973 --> 00:27:13,333
Speaker 8: Thanks.

601
00:27:13,973 --> 00:27:16,333
Speaker 9: I was just going to say, we're in quite a

602
00:27:16,373 --> 00:27:22,052
Speaker 9: technical industry, in the accounting industry, and so maybe a

603
00:27:22,053 --> 00:27:26,733
Speaker 9: little bit different than hospitality or recard or something like that.

604
00:27:27,573 --> 00:27:32,533
Speaker 9: We need people with very specific skills and very specific capability.

605
00:27:32,933 --> 00:27:40,893
Speaker 9: And what we've found that sometimes people can have good cvs,

606
00:27:40,973 --> 00:27:45,653
Speaker 9: they can have great personalities, but they can't think the

607
00:27:45,693 --> 00:27:48,373
Speaker 9: way out of a wet paper bag, you know. And

608
00:27:48,453 --> 00:27:55,653
Speaker 9: so what we do is psychometric testing, which tests, you know,

609
00:27:55,853 --> 00:28:01,373
Speaker 9: personality traits that also tests their reasoning ability, whether they're

610
00:28:01,453 --> 00:28:05,493
Speaker 9: numerically minded, logically minded, those sorts of things. And sometimes

611
00:28:05,533 --> 00:28:08,733
Speaker 9: we've had some surprising results on those and we say, oh,

612
00:28:08,813 --> 00:28:09,613
Speaker 9: that can't be right.

613
00:28:10,013 --> 00:28:12,133
Speaker 18: You know, this person seems fantastic, and.

614
00:28:12,053 --> 00:28:15,693
Speaker 9: So we've given them a job. And and I'd say

615
00:28:16,093 --> 00:28:18,093
Speaker 9: nearly one hundred percent of the time we've done that,

616
00:28:18,133 --> 00:28:20,293
Speaker 9: we've found out, to our own peril that that was

617
00:28:20,293 --> 00:28:21,333
Speaker 9: a huge mistake.

618
00:28:21,733 --> 00:28:25,933
Speaker 2: Right, So the psychometric tests didn't give you accurate results?

619
00:28:26,013 --> 00:28:27,373
Speaker 2: Is that you're saying, no, they.

620
00:28:27,253 --> 00:28:31,613
Speaker 9: Gave us the accurate result, but we're ignored those right

621
00:28:31,733 --> 00:28:35,493
Speaker 9: and talking them on because of their personality and you know,

622
00:28:35,533 --> 00:28:38,573
Speaker 9: maybe they had some good work experience that looked good.

623
00:28:40,053 --> 00:28:44,213
Speaker 9: But you know, I would say I found that those

624
00:28:44,493 --> 00:28:48,733
Speaker 9: psychometric tests are pretty reliable and you know, they're probably

625
00:28:48,733 --> 00:28:51,693
Speaker 9: a step up from AI. They're more you know, they're

626
00:28:51,733 --> 00:28:52,413
Speaker 9: more targeted.

627
00:28:52,813 --> 00:28:54,853
Speaker 2: I wonder if there because people talk about how you

628
00:28:54,893 --> 00:28:58,373
Speaker 2: can train to pass the psychometric test because it's about

629
00:28:58,853 --> 00:29:01,853
Speaker 2: builds over a lot of questions, doesn't it, So it's

630
00:29:01,893 --> 00:29:05,653
Speaker 2: designed to spot if someone's trying to hack it, right, Yes, basically.

631
00:29:05,333 --> 00:29:09,173
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're pretty clever. I mean, what I might say is,

632
00:29:09,213 --> 00:29:11,573
Speaker 9: like most of the people were interviewing, they've done a

633
00:29:11,613 --> 00:29:15,293
Speaker 9: lot of study, They've passed a lot of exams, and

634
00:29:15,373 --> 00:29:17,533
Speaker 9: I'd say people have managed to I don't know how

635
00:29:17,813 --> 00:29:19,933
Speaker 9: some of these people manage to pass the exams and

636
00:29:20,093 --> 00:29:22,893
Speaker 9: get good marks, but once you get them on the job,

637
00:29:23,333 --> 00:29:27,293
Speaker 9: they you know, they there's some people just can't really

638
00:29:27,613 --> 00:29:30,213
Speaker 9: think for them. You know, we want people with initiative

639
00:29:30,253 --> 00:29:35,013
Speaker 9: that can think think of how to solve a complex problem,

640
00:29:35,053 --> 00:29:39,533
Speaker 9: because you know, it's not every every every situation has

641
00:29:39,573 --> 00:29:42,133
Speaker 9: a unique problem. There's there's you know, it's not a

642
00:29:42,173 --> 00:29:46,573
Speaker 9: sort of cookie cutter process. So yeah, it's really Yeah,

643
00:29:46,573 --> 00:29:49,293
Speaker 9: we just find if we ignore those those test results,

644
00:29:49,333 --> 00:29:51,813
Speaker 9: where we end up with that is interesting.

645
00:29:51,853 --> 00:29:54,333
Speaker 3: I mean personality. To me that that does sound like

646
00:29:54,333 --> 00:29:55,693
Speaker 3: a bit of a roll the roll of the dice,

647
00:29:55,693 --> 00:29:58,533
Speaker 3: because someone can come across as very gregarious or seem

648
00:29:58,613 --> 00:30:00,253
Speaker 3: like a good sword and then it all goes wrong.

649
00:30:00,493 --> 00:30:02,853
Speaker 3: But you talk about initiative, and to me, that is

650
00:30:03,053 --> 00:30:05,493
Speaker 3: one of the key soft skills. You want to look

651
00:30:05,493 --> 00:30:07,573
Speaker 3: for someone who's eager, who's gonna who's going to take

652
00:30:07,613 --> 00:30:09,333
Speaker 3: on any job you need them to do, because I

653
00:30:09,893 --> 00:30:12,493
Speaker 3: think you can train anybody to do something all this

654
00:30:12,613 --> 00:30:14,693
Speaker 3: chat if they got it. If they don't have it,

655
00:30:14,693 --> 00:30:15,333
Speaker 3: they'll never have it.

656
00:30:15,373 --> 00:30:19,333
Speaker 2: I would have the initiative to hack the psychometric test, Well.

657
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Speaker 3: That would show a lot of initiatives.

658
00:30:20,813 --> 00:30:24,093
Speaker 2: Maybe that in itself proves that there were hiring.

659
00:30:24,253 --> 00:30:27,253
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, well the other thing is we don't know.

660
00:30:27,293 --> 00:30:31,053
Speaker 9: It's getting the point now with AI in every industry,

661
00:30:31,093 --> 00:30:36,133
Speaker 9: you don't know how much work people can actually do themselves,

662
00:30:36,213 --> 00:30:38,733
Speaker 9: you know, Yeah, and how much I can sort of

663
00:30:38,813 --> 00:30:44,893
Speaker 9: outsource there they're thinking to getting some AIS program product

664
00:30:45,533 --> 00:30:48,333
Speaker 9: to work out the answers for them. So going forward

665
00:30:48,333 --> 00:30:51,653
Speaker 9: in the future, I don't know, it's getting more complicated

666
00:30:52,013 --> 00:30:52,653
Speaker 9: all the time.

667
00:30:52,973 --> 00:30:55,733
Speaker 2: Do you think with upskilling though, say in your industry

668
00:30:56,533 --> 00:30:58,933
Speaker 2: that you know, it used to be that you need

669
00:30:59,053 --> 00:31:02,053
Speaker 2: to know a certain set of software or a certain

670
00:31:02,653 --> 00:31:05,533
Speaker 2: set of I don't know tools to do the job.

671
00:31:05,973 --> 00:31:08,653
Speaker 2: But now if you get the right person then and

672
00:31:09,333 --> 00:31:12,213
Speaker 2: as I was saying to a previous caller, you can

673
00:31:12,533 --> 00:31:16,973
Speaker 2: to Fergus, you can anyone that's smart can educate themselves

674
00:31:17,013 --> 00:31:19,253
Speaker 2: into nearly any piece of software, now, can't they?

675
00:31:20,213 --> 00:31:22,893
Speaker 9: Roger, would you say, well, I think I think that

676
00:31:23,093 --> 00:31:25,653
Speaker 9: certainly the software does a lot more of the routine

677
00:31:25,693 --> 00:31:28,493
Speaker 9: task and a lot of things. And in our industry

678
00:31:28,493 --> 00:31:33,813
Speaker 9: that's developing exponentially all the time. I think it's it's

679
00:31:34,773 --> 00:31:39,453
Speaker 9: people that previously we're doing just routine sort of tasks

680
00:31:39,453 --> 00:31:41,613
Speaker 9: in an industry. I can see it's going to be

681
00:31:41,653 --> 00:31:44,413
Speaker 9: harder for them defying roles in the future. They'll be

682
00:31:44,493 --> 00:31:49,213
Speaker 9: replaced by the software. But what does worry me about

683
00:31:49,213 --> 00:31:51,933
Speaker 9: all of that is that you know, people, I've been

684
00:31:51,973 --> 00:31:56,013
Speaker 9: doing it for over forty years so and I learned,

685
00:31:56,053 --> 00:31:58,813
Speaker 9: you know, the real basics BacT Before it was hardly

686
00:31:58,853 --> 00:32:03,173
Speaker 9: any technology, and so I know the industry inside out.

687
00:32:03,893 --> 00:32:07,013
Speaker 9: I know problems that can happen. I know the issues

688
00:32:07,013 --> 00:32:09,453
Speaker 9: and things, and I just wonder whether people are going

689
00:32:09,453 --> 00:32:11,053
Speaker 9: to get that sort of you know, they're not going

690
00:32:11,093 --> 00:32:12,933
Speaker 9: to get that sort of training in the future because

691
00:32:13,613 --> 00:32:16,573
Speaker 9: they're going to sort of start just using some software.

692
00:32:16,613 --> 00:32:18,693
Speaker 9: But they know the problem with that is they're not

693
00:32:18,733 --> 00:32:22,333
Speaker 9: necessarily thinking for themselves. So how that all works out,

694
00:32:22,373 --> 00:32:22,933
Speaker 9: I'm no sure.

695
00:32:23,133 --> 00:32:26,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a mate that works for British Telecom

696
00:32:26,573 --> 00:32:28,773
Speaker 2: and he works out of Australia for British Telecom, but

697
00:32:28,813 --> 00:32:31,613
Speaker 2: he was there so far back that he's right at

698
00:32:31,613 --> 00:32:33,653
Speaker 2: the base of everything they do, so they can't really

699
00:32:34,053 --> 00:32:36,693
Speaker 2: they can't, Yeah, because people just know on top of

700
00:32:36,733 --> 00:32:38,013
Speaker 2: on top of, on top of, on top of on

701
00:32:38,093 --> 00:32:41,093
Speaker 2: top of, but it's all built on a bunch of

702
00:32:41,133 --> 00:32:41,973
Speaker 2: stuff in the past.

703
00:32:42,053 --> 00:32:43,933
Speaker 3: So lucky have them, they can't get rid of him.

704
00:32:44,413 --> 00:32:46,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to know the whole breadth and width

705
00:32:47,013 --> 00:32:47,653
Speaker 2: of the industry.

706
00:32:47,773 --> 00:32:49,693
Speaker 3: Thank you for your call, Roger, Yeah, what a great call.

707
00:32:49,733 --> 00:32:50,613
Speaker 3: Do you agree with? Roger?

708
00:32:50,613 --> 00:32:50,693
Speaker 13: Oh?

709
00:32:50,733 --> 00:32:52,333
Speaker 3: Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

710
00:32:52,373 --> 00:32:53,733
Speaker 3: to call, nine two, nine to two. I don't think

711
00:32:53,773 --> 00:32:55,853
Speaker 3: you can teach initiative, you know, even though I think

712
00:32:55,893 --> 00:32:57,413
Speaker 3: you can teach a lot of people a lot of things,

713
00:32:57,413 --> 00:32:59,333
Speaker 3: trying to teach someone how to have initiative, I just

714
00:32:59,373 --> 00:33:01,573
Speaker 3: think you've either got that or you don't. And it's

715
00:33:01,653 --> 00:33:03,413
Speaker 3: kind of critical anyone who takes on a job. If

716
00:33:03,413 --> 00:33:06,413
Speaker 3: they've got initiative and they're willing to do whatever and

717
00:33:06,493 --> 00:33:08,293
Speaker 3: try and get better, then that's half the problem, right.

718
00:33:08,493 --> 00:33:10,253
Speaker 3: In fact, it's ninety percent of the problem.

719
00:33:10,373 --> 00:33:12,173
Speaker 2: You know when I said the saying that the same

720
00:33:12,373 --> 00:33:15,333
Speaker 2: breadth and width doesn't breed them with the same thing. Breaths,

721
00:33:15,653 --> 00:33:17,933
Speaker 2: is that the same and with yeah, because breed them

722
00:33:17,973 --> 00:33:20,573
Speaker 2: with the same thing. So you know, so if you

723
00:33:20,613 --> 00:33:22,813
Speaker 2: know the weds, if you know the woods, you know.

724
00:33:22,733 --> 00:33:25,973
Speaker 3: The breadths, so width and heights, So what's.

725
00:33:25,813 --> 00:33:29,133
Speaker 2: My the breadth and with anyway, I let me get

726
00:33:29,133 --> 00:33:29,573
Speaker 2: to the one with there.

727
00:33:29,573 --> 00:33:30,453
Speaker 3: We've got to google that one.

728
00:33:30,613 --> 00:33:33,093
Speaker 2: I think I've used a erroneous saying.

729
00:33:33,413 --> 00:33:35,253
Speaker 3: Beg very shortly taken your calls OZ one hundred and

730
00:33:35,253 --> 00:33:38,533
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty quarter to two, the issues.

731
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Speaker 1: That affect you, and a bit of fun along the way.

732
00:33:40,853 --> 00:33:45,253
Speaker 1: Matt afternoons with Skoda. Please go to codes every day

733
00:33:45,333 --> 00:33:48,933
Speaker 1: at Skoda dot co dot sad News talks'd be it is.

734
00:33:48,893 --> 00:33:49,573
Speaker 3: Twelve to two.

735
00:33:50,013 --> 00:33:52,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was making up a saying. He's saying it

736
00:33:52,213 --> 00:33:55,293
Speaker 2: is length, length and breadth of them. Knowing everything is

737
00:33:55,333 --> 00:33:57,853
Speaker 2: to know the length and breadths of an institution or

738
00:33:57,853 --> 00:33:59,893
Speaker 2: something that makes more sense not breadth than with because

739
00:34:00,013 --> 00:34:01,413
Speaker 2: you be only knowing one dimension.

740
00:34:01,613 --> 00:34:03,453
Speaker 3: Breadths and depth is another way to put it.

741
00:34:03,573 --> 00:34:07,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yep, there you go. Core Apologies. Hi guys,

742
00:34:07,973 --> 00:34:10,333
Speaker 2: I ran hot while Auto Electrical for years. We had

743
00:34:10,333 --> 00:34:12,252
Speaker 2: a showroom at the front and a big workshop at

744
00:34:12,293 --> 00:34:14,453
Speaker 2: the back and Carlston West Auckland. We had a lot

745
00:34:14,493 --> 00:34:16,212
Speaker 2: of staff and quite often the staff that were not

746
00:34:16,293 --> 00:34:19,173
Speaker 2: qualified were naturals at it and were better than the

747
00:34:19,253 --> 00:34:22,453
Speaker 2: qualified staff. Also with the showroom staff were there were

748
00:34:22,533 --> 00:34:25,053
Speaker 2: some that smiled and bonded with the customers. Others could

749
00:34:25,053 --> 00:34:27,853
Speaker 2: not get that bond of unemployed people that had been

750
00:34:27,933 --> 00:34:31,373
Speaker 2: customers and I could read how good they were CH's.

751
00:34:31,213 --> 00:34:32,733
Speaker 3: Pool smart strategy.

752
00:34:32,813 --> 00:34:34,773
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, been in the hospitality for twenty years and

753
00:34:34,773 --> 00:34:37,733
Speaker 2: the only hiring rule I run by is never employed

754
00:34:37,773 --> 00:34:40,133
Speaker 2: someone who walks slowly chow Tom.

755
00:34:40,293 --> 00:34:42,813
Speaker 3: I'd agree with that. I'm not at hospit, but I

756
00:34:42,853 --> 00:34:45,333
Speaker 3: just don't like slow walkers. What the hell is the

757
00:34:45,373 --> 00:34:45,853
Speaker 3: hold up?

758
00:34:46,173 --> 00:34:49,613
Speaker 2: I had a friend who is a major employee, and

759
00:34:49,813 --> 00:34:51,973
Speaker 2: the only question he ever asked in the views were

760
00:34:52,453 --> 00:34:54,613
Speaker 2: how have you ever woken up naked somewhere and not

761
00:34:54,693 --> 00:34:57,813
Speaker 2: knowing how you got there? And he believed that people

762
00:34:57,813 --> 00:34:59,973
Speaker 2: that hadn't been in that situation hadn't pushed the boat

763
00:35:00,173 --> 00:35:03,373
Speaker 2: out enough to really be the kind of risk taker

764
00:35:03,413 --> 00:35:04,013
Speaker 2: that he needed.

765
00:35:04,133 --> 00:35:04,933
Speaker 3: It's a great question.

766
00:35:05,133 --> 00:35:07,172
Speaker 2: Have you ever woken up naked somewhere and not known

767
00:35:07,173 --> 00:35:07,773
Speaker 2: how you got there?

768
00:35:07,893 --> 00:35:08,213
Speaker 6: Yes?

769
00:35:08,653 --> 00:35:08,973
Speaker 19: Have you?

770
00:35:09,973 --> 00:35:11,293
Speaker 2: Is that how you got this job? It is how

771
00:35:11,333 --> 00:35:11,893
Speaker 2: I got this job?

772
00:35:11,933 --> 00:35:14,093
Speaker 3: Actually turned down news dogs eb was all about that

773
00:35:14,413 --> 00:35:15,853
Speaker 3: we've done my favor for once.

774
00:35:17,173 --> 00:35:19,652
Speaker 2: I won't ask you Meggie working with the show?

775
00:35:21,253 --> 00:35:22,252
Speaker 20: Hello, how are you doing?

776
00:35:22,613 --> 00:35:24,213
Speaker 2: Very good? Thank you? Thank you for calling.

777
00:35:25,973 --> 00:35:30,253
Speaker 20: I've only got a very short little snippet in all directions,

778
00:35:30,253 --> 00:35:31,212
Speaker 20: so I won't keep you lock.

779
00:35:31,493 --> 00:35:32,933
Speaker 9: Obviously, I'm on the road.

780
00:35:34,213 --> 00:35:35,212
Speaker 12: As ors.

781
00:35:35,893 --> 00:35:38,613
Speaker 20: Nobody gets a second chance to make the first impression.

782
00:35:39,213 --> 00:35:42,213
Speaker 8: Yes, and it works both ways.

783
00:35:44,253 --> 00:35:47,013
Speaker 3: I mean it is a good saying, but most people

784
00:35:47,013 --> 00:35:49,333
Speaker 3: would try and make a good first impression, right, Meggie,

785
00:35:49,333 --> 00:35:51,493
Speaker 3: But unfortunately it doesn't quite work out for a lot

786
00:35:51,493 --> 00:35:54,013
Speaker 3: of people. They get nervous in the interview, or you know,

787
00:35:54,093 --> 00:35:57,093
Speaker 3: maybe they didn't quite get out what they wanted to say.

788
00:35:57,093 --> 00:35:59,933
Speaker 3: You get my drift there that maybe they're really good,

789
00:35:59,973 --> 00:36:02,652
Speaker 3: but they just folded under that sort of pressure.

790
00:36:04,053 --> 00:36:05,373
Speaker 20: But they won't get another chance.

791
00:36:06,333 --> 00:36:09,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, and sometimes, and sometimes that's a sad thing, Meggie,

792
00:36:09,933 --> 00:36:11,573
Speaker 3: that they could be really good, They could be a

793
00:36:11,573 --> 00:36:13,253
Speaker 3: diamond under all that nervousness.

794
00:36:13,293 --> 00:36:14,853
Speaker 2: Do you do you think the kind of sort of

795
00:36:15,133 --> 00:36:18,893
Speaker 2: AI based interviewing where you're just going on a set

796
00:36:18,973 --> 00:36:23,453
Speaker 2: of pre set rules and not using Cuban intuition can

797
00:36:23,493 --> 00:36:25,733
Speaker 2: be an advantage for some people because they might not

798
00:36:25,813 --> 00:36:27,813
Speaker 2: be the type person that makes the first good impression.

799
00:36:29,613 --> 00:36:30,133
Speaker 8: Well, I'm a.

800
00:36:30,093 --> 00:36:34,053
Speaker 20: Retired person, so AI is still a strange beast to me.

801
00:36:35,453 --> 00:36:37,893
Speaker 20: I'm not sure that I would really engage that. I

802
00:36:37,893 --> 00:36:42,533
Speaker 20: would probably trutch up to at any place I would

803
00:36:43,053 --> 00:36:44,013
Speaker 20: definitely crunch up with.

804
00:36:44,853 --> 00:36:46,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, good on you, Meggie, thank you very much. You

805
00:36:46,933 --> 00:36:49,213
Speaker 3: never get a second chance to make a great first impression.

806
00:36:49,213 --> 00:36:51,653
Speaker 2: Well, you made a great first impression with me, Maggie.

807
00:36:51,773 --> 00:36:54,533
Speaker 3: Can I just say well done, Meggie right beg very shortly,

808
00:36:54,573 --> 00:36:56,173
Speaker 3: but taking your calls, oh eight hundred and eighty ten

809
00:36:56,253 --> 00:36:58,732
Speaker 3: eighty and your text nine to nine two is that number?

810
00:36:58,773 --> 00:37:00,213
Speaker 3: It is eight to two.

811
00:37:01,093 --> 00:37:04,293
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight

812
00:37:04,373 --> 00:37:06,773
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Taylor

813
00:37:06,813 --> 00:37:10,693
Speaker 1: Adams AFTERNOONSB.

814
00:37:10,133 --> 00:37:13,013
Speaker 3: News talks AB it is six to two. Say have

815
00:37:13,053 --> 00:37:15,213
Speaker 3: you ever taken a chance on a candidate whose CV

816
00:37:15,453 --> 00:37:18,652
Speaker 3: wasn't great but they showed potential in person? Nine two

817
00:37:18,733 --> 00:37:22,652
Speaker 3: ninety two is the text number? And plenty coming through.

818
00:37:25,093 --> 00:37:29,732
Speaker 2: High higher on attitude. You can always teach skills, YEP,

819
00:37:30,013 --> 00:37:32,573
Speaker 2: A lot of truth in that. I'm a civil engineer

820
00:37:32,773 --> 00:37:34,733
Speaker 2: and firm, and I get anxious about employing people who

821
00:37:34,733 --> 00:37:36,732
Speaker 2: can't demonstrate and understanding of physics and a pool game.

822
00:37:36,733 --> 00:37:38,733
Speaker 2: That's an interesting one, isn't it. So if you are

823
00:37:39,053 --> 00:37:41,933
Speaker 2: into civil engineering and you take someone out to play

824
00:37:41,973 --> 00:37:45,133
Speaker 2: a game of pool and they can't at least attempt

825
00:37:45,173 --> 00:37:47,772
Speaker 2: the basic angles. Maybe they're not coordinate enough to pull

826
00:37:47,773 --> 00:37:49,732
Speaker 2: them off, but you can see what they're trying to do.

827
00:37:49,813 --> 00:37:52,813
Speaker 3: That's genius. It would have been a terrible civic engineer.

828
00:37:52,813 --> 00:37:55,933
Speaker 2: In that case, I'm an employer. How do you interview

829
00:37:55,973 --> 00:37:58,692
Speaker 2: for initiative? Initiative and common sense are very hard things

830
00:37:58,693 --> 00:38:00,813
Speaker 2: to pick up in an interview. I've not found the

831
00:38:00,853 --> 00:38:05,772
Speaker 2: right questions yet. I mean, that's sort of an unquantifiable thing,

832
00:38:05,893 --> 00:38:08,813
Speaker 2: isn't it. You also often don't know whether you got

833
00:38:08,813 --> 00:38:10,653
Speaker 2: the right employee or not. So a lot of people

834
00:38:10,653 --> 00:38:12,693
Speaker 2: that go, oh, yeah, I'm just being great employing people.

835
00:38:13,213 --> 00:38:16,413
Speaker 2: Maybe they're good at developing people. Yeah, And so they

836
00:38:16,453 --> 00:38:19,253
Speaker 2: take a chance on someone, then they develop them, but

837
00:38:19,293 --> 00:38:21,213
Speaker 2: there may have been a better applicant beforehand. You never

838
00:38:21,253 --> 00:38:23,533
Speaker 2: really know, do you. That's one of the applicants. You

839
00:38:23,533 --> 00:38:26,093
Speaker 2: may not be getting the best applicant every time, but

840
00:38:26,493 --> 00:38:30,013
Speaker 2: they're good enough, or they get better or whatever.

841
00:38:30,093 --> 00:38:30,253
Speaker 19: You know.

842
00:38:30,413 --> 00:38:32,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and on that initiative question, someone once

843
00:38:33,013 --> 00:38:34,693
Speaker 3: told me I think it was my dad actually, and

844
00:38:34,773 --> 00:38:36,853
Speaker 3: it was some pretty good advice. You said, when you're employed,

845
00:38:37,053 --> 00:38:39,213
Speaker 3: you were there just there to solve your boss's problem.

846
00:38:39,293 --> 00:38:41,732
Speaker 3: You're a problem solver. You can never create problems. You've

847
00:38:41,733 --> 00:38:44,533
Speaker 3: got to solve problems, which is kind of initiative. But

848
00:38:44,893 --> 00:38:46,533
Speaker 3: I've always remembered that, and I don't know how you

849
00:38:46,533 --> 00:38:48,253
Speaker 3: actually pick that up in an interview. How do you

850
00:38:48,293 --> 00:38:50,172
Speaker 3: find out someone's going to be a problem solver rather

851
00:38:50,213 --> 00:38:53,133
Speaker 3: than a problem creator. That's a tricky, tricky part.

852
00:38:53,013 --> 00:38:55,373
Speaker 2: You have for Rivi's cub at them an interview. Yeah,

853
00:38:55,533 --> 00:38:57,253
Speaker 2: just taking on a sixty two year old who had

854
00:38:57,253 --> 00:39:00,653
Speaker 2: no qualifications but forty years of experience. I wonder you

855
00:39:00,733 --> 00:39:02,893
Speaker 2: got forty years of experience but no qualification. I mean

856
00:39:02,933 --> 00:39:04,533
Speaker 2: forty years of experience is a qualification?

857
00:39:04,573 --> 00:39:08,613
Speaker 3: I'd say, yeah, exactly, Yeah, thank you very much. Who

858
00:39:08,613 --> 00:39:11,893
Speaker 3: called in text on that really enjoyed that conversation. But

859
00:39:11,933 --> 00:39:14,373
Speaker 3: we're going to change it up after two o'clock. I

860
00:39:14,453 --> 00:39:17,133
Speaker 3: want to talk about dental care. Have you ever considered

861
00:39:17,173 --> 00:39:20,373
Speaker 3: getting a second opinion on dental treatment when you've got

862
00:39:20,413 --> 00:39:22,493
Speaker 3: the bill? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

863
00:39:22,533 --> 00:39:25,173
Speaker 3: that number to call? Nineteen ninety two is the text

864
00:39:25,533 --> 00:39:27,413
Speaker 3: that is coming up next? New Sport and weather on

865
00:39:27,493 --> 00:39:29,373
Speaker 3: its way. Great to have your company this afternoon. You

866
00:39:29,453 --> 00:39:31,772
Speaker 3: listening to Matt and Tyler Hoe, You having a great day.

867
00:39:31,933 --> 00:39:41,413
Speaker 3: You stay here, We'll be back shortly. John on.

868
00:39:49,253 --> 00:39:57,413
Speaker 4: Sun, big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

869
00:39:57,813 --> 00:39:58,773
Speaker 4: everything in between.

870
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Speaker 5: Kids, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon Squid Skoda News

871
00:40:03,293 --> 00:40:05,693
Speaker 5: Talk said the very.

872
00:40:05,493 --> 00:40:08,093
Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show. It

873
00:40:08,133 --> 00:40:11,653
Speaker 3: is six pass two and just a reminder, our mates

874
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Speaker 3: at Skoda want to send you and a friend to

875
00:40:14,533 --> 00:40:17,333
Speaker 3: experience the Tour de France when you play Scoter Coaches.

876
00:40:17,853 --> 00:40:20,013
Speaker 3: But if you have been to the Scota website and

877
00:40:20,013 --> 00:40:22,133
Speaker 3: you need a little better help, we'll have that clue

878
00:40:22,173 --> 00:40:25,493
Speaker 3: for you in about forty five minutes. Heck of a prize,

879
00:40:25,493 --> 00:40:27,573
Speaker 3: but that is coming up very shortly. In the meantime,

880
00:40:27,933 --> 00:40:31,693
Speaker 3: let's have a chat about second opinions. Going to the dentists,

881
00:40:31,693 --> 00:40:34,373
Speaker 3: as we know, can be pretty terrifying one for any

882
00:40:34,453 --> 00:40:36,853
Speaker 3: sort of physical pain that you may be experiencing, but

883
00:40:36,893 --> 00:40:39,013
Speaker 3: also on your wallet. There's an article by a senior

884
00:40:39,093 --> 00:40:42,053
Speaker 3: lecturer of oral health at aut and she argues it's

885
00:40:42,093 --> 00:40:45,653
Speaker 3: perfectly reasonable to question the bill and to seek a

886
00:40:45,733 --> 00:40:48,812
Speaker 3: second opinion. She notes that dentistry isn't always clear cut

887
00:40:49,213 --> 00:40:52,293
Speaker 3: and differing a dentists may suggest different approaches for the

888
00:40:52,333 --> 00:40:55,333
Speaker 3: same issue, so patients shouldn't feel pressured to accept the

889
00:40:55,333 --> 00:40:56,493
Speaker 3: first plan that they're given.

890
00:40:56,573 --> 00:40:58,493
Speaker 2: Can you haggle you? Can you haggle the dentist.

891
00:40:59,133 --> 00:41:02,053
Speaker 3: Apparently, according to this senior lecture at aut you can.

892
00:41:02,133 --> 00:41:04,733
Speaker 3: But to me, I just wouldn't haggle a dentist.

893
00:41:04,853 --> 00:41:08,293
Speaker 2: Well you should. That's an interesting thing, isn't it put

894
00:41:08,413 --> 00:41:10,813
Speaker 2: these people in positions of responsibility and then they just

895
00:41:10,813 --> 00:41:14,333
Speaker 2: make up the pricing, right, So if it's a difference

896
00:41:14,333 --> 00:41:18,813
Speaker 2: between them going ahead or not going ahead, then you go, well, okay,

897
00:41:18,933 --> 00:41:21,812
Speaker 2: I'm interested, but drop the price twenty percent and we'll talk.

898
00:41:22,253 --> 00:41:24,013
Speaker 3: If I pay with cash? Can I get a discount?

899
00:41:24,053 --> 00:41:26,093
Speaker 2: You go, that's interesting that that's that much? But can

900
00:41:26,133 --> 00:41:28,613
Speaker 2: you do? What can we do? What can we do

901
00:41:28,613 --> 00:41:30,693
Speaker 2: to sharpen this deal? Why wouldn't you say that? You

902
00:41:30,693 --> 00:41:33,413
Speaker 2: say it when you're buying a car, so why wouldn't

903
00:41:33,413 --> 00:41:36,933
Speaker 2: you say it to a dentist if you're about to

904
00:41:36,973 --> 00:41:38,853
Speaker 2: get a colon oscarby Okay, this is interesting? This four

905
00:41:38,893 --> 00:41:41,053
Speaker 2: and a half thousand? Can we do it for two?

906
00:41:41,253 --> 00:41:42,733
Speaker 2: Can you do me a better deal? What if I

907
00:41:42,733 --> 00:41:44,293
Speaker 2: pay with cash? Am either going to do it or

908
00:41:44,333 --> 00:41:46,373
Speaker 2: I'm not? So you can either make two thousand dollars

909
00:41:47,053 --> 00:41:47,973
Speaker 2: or no money at all.

910
00:41:48,373 --> 00:41:50,133
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. So, Yeah, buying a car and

911
00:41:50,173 --> 00:41:53,172
Speaker 3: I haggled when we purchased our car, and they still

912
00:41:53,213 --> 00:41:56,013
Speaker 3: took me to the cleaners, probably, but I could walk away.

913
00:41:56,133 --> 00:41:57,893
Speaker 3: So if I wasn't happy with that, and I tried

914
00:41:57,933 --> 00:42:00,333
Speaker 3: to go play hardball, and Mave was really embarrassed because

915
00:42:00,333 --> 00:42:02,253
Speaker 3: she was standing there. It was all but awkward. But

916
00:42:02,293 --> 00:42:03,893
Speaker 3: at the back of my mind said, if this guy

917
00:42:04,053 --> 00:42:06,373
Speaker 3: doesn't at least drop his pants a little bit, then

918
00:42:06,413 --> 00:42:08,652
Speaker 3: I'll walk over across the road. There's there is a

919
00:42:08,693 --> 00:42:12,252
Speaker 3: car dealer right across the road with his pants now, yeah, yeah, yeah,

920
00:42:12,373 --> 00:42:15,053
Speaker 3: whether it's pants halfway down already, but with a.

921
00:42:15,053 --> 00:42:16,133
Speaker 2: Dentist, I don't know.

922
00:42:16,253 --> 00:42:19,133
Speaker 3: I just I would feel in that scenario and say,

923
00:42:19,173 --> 00:42:21,013
Speaker 3: it's going to cost five grands to give me a

924
00:42:21,013 --> 00:42:23,652
Speaker 3: couple of new teeth. You know what, unless you drop

925
00:42:23,693 --> 00:42:25,453
Speaker 3: that price right now, I'm just going to walk over

926
00:42:25,493 --> 00:42:26,652
Speaker 3: the road to you mate over there.

927
00:42:27,053 --> 00:42:29,493
Speaker 2: And well, there was definitely because people look at dentist

928
00:42:29,613 --> 00:42:32,493
Speaker 2: prices and in a city they're different from when they're

929
00:42:33,333 --> 00:42:36,133
Speaker 2: in the outers of cities, right, so if you drive

930
00:42:36,333 --> 00:42:39,813
Speaker 2: just fifteen kilometers then you'll get a different price, right,

931
00:42:39,893 --> 00:42:41,652
Speaker 2: So there is there is an opportunity to do that.

932
00:42:42,093 --> 00:42:44,773
Speaker 2: You go, look, I've got a mate out in dreary

933
00:42:45,373 --> 00:42:48,213
Speaker 2: and he'll do it for half that. I want to

934
00:42:48,253 --> 00:42:50,013
Speaker 2: work with you. I want to work with you on

935
00:42:50,013 --> 00:42:52,053
Speaker 2: my teeth. I want to go into partnership with you

936
00:42:52,133 --> 00:42:54,533
Speaker 2: on this mouth of mine. But you're going to have

937
00:42:54,653 --> 00:42:56,293
Speaker 2: to You're going to have to come to the party here.

938
00:42:56,373 --> 00:42:57,453
Speaker 3: You're going to meet me halfway.

939
00:42:57,613 --> 00:43:00,573
Speaker 2: And we all know that eight hundred dollars per tooth

940
00:43:00,653 --> 00:43:03,533
Speaker 2: is too much. We all know that's your starting point.

941
00:43:03,693 --> 00:43:06,893
Speaker 2: Very interesting, bold, but let's talk.

942
00:43:08,373 --> 00:43:10,413
Speaker 3: It's a bold strategy. That's a that's a hell of

943
00:43:10,413 --> 00:43:13,013
Speaker 3: a negotiation. If I was the dentist right now, because.

944
00:43:12,733 --> 00:43:15,813
Speaker 2: You can walk, you can't You can walk, you know,

945
00:43:15,933 --> 00:43:17,413
Speaker 2: more than you can walk on anything, because you can

946
00:43:17,413 --> 00:43:19,933
Speaker 2: always find another dentist and pay the same amount. But

947
00:43:20,373 --> 00:43:23,173
Speaker 2: that dentist that's in front of you right now, because

948
00:43:23,213 --> 00:43:27,573
Speaker 2: often they're selling you a procedure that you need for

949
00:43:27,653 --> 00:43:29,893
Speaker 2: the future. Yes, so go if we need to do

950
00:43:29,933 --> 00:43:32,573
Speaker 2: this now and for the future, right yeah, so, because

951
00:43:32,773 --> 00:43:34,893
Speaker 2: this can be your money if you want it now.

952
00:43:35,053 --> 00:43:38,652
Speaker 2: But we're taking we're taking twenty percent off that. Why

953
00:43:38,693 --> 00:43:40,652
Speaker 2: wouldn't you they're not? Why are they? Why is a

954
00:43:40,733 --> 00:43:43,293
Speaker 2: dentist any better than than someone selling a car? Then

955
00:43:43,333 --> 00:43:45,333
Speaker 2: a dealership. I'll tell you, why are they any better

956
00:43:45,333 --> 00:43:47,053
Speaker 2: than than it's someone selling you your house.

957
00:43:47,093 --> 00:43:49,613
Speaker 3: It's a good question, and I you know, arguably, I

958
00:43:49,613 --> 00:43:52,573
Speaker 3: don't think they're better human beings. But a dentist has

959
00:43:52,613 --> 00:43:55,253
Speaker 3: gone to medical school for seven years and there's a

960
00:43:55,293 --> 00:43:57,373
Speaker 3: level of trust there that I have, rightly or wrongly.

961
00:43:57,413 --> 00:43:59,853
Speaker 3: A lot of people say, naive, you should be negotiating

962
00:43:59,853 --> 00:44:03,133
Speaker 3: at haggling with your dentist. But I, for me, I

963
00:44:03,173 --> 00:44:05,453
Speaker 3: think I can trust those guys. So am I a

964
00:44:05,573 --> 00:44:08,172
Speaker 3: mug oh eight hundred eighty and eighty umber to call?

965
00:44:08,333 --> 00:44:10,652
Speaker 2: Are you saying that blanketly across the board? Just by

966
00:44:10,773 --> 00:44:14,413
Speaker 2: virtue of them going through dentistry school, they're more honest

967
00:44:14,453 --> 00:44:15,013
Speaker 2: than other people.

968
00:44:15,013 --> 00:44:17,453
Speaker 3: It's the white coat syndrome because they wearing a white coat.

969
00:44:17,573 --> 00:44:19,652
Speaker 3: There's part of my brain that says, these guys know

970
00:44:19,733 --> 00:44:22,373
Speaker 3: what they're doing. They wouldn't stitch me up. But clearly

971
00:44:22,413 --> 00:44:22,973
Speaker 3: it is happening.

972
00:44:22,973 --> 00:44:24,893
Speaker 2: I bet there's people out there. I mean, for the

973
00:44:24,933 --> 00:44:28,013
Speaker 2: longest time, dental nurses in this country. I know, not dentists,

974
00:44:28,013 --> 00:44:32,692
Speaker 2: but dentalnesses. We're just filling in fillings for practice. So

975
00:44:32,773 --> 00:44:35,973
Speaker 2: it's not like the dental industry has always been above board. Yeah,

976
00:44:36,013 --> 00:44:39,893
Speaker 2: So I just don't think by virtue of doing a degree,

977
00:44:39,933 --> 00:44:41,933
Speaker 2: you're suddenly more honest than a builder.

978
00:44:43,133 --> 00:44:45,773
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure my parents hegled I embraces for about

979
00:44:45,773 --> 00:44:48,973
Speaker 3: seven years, and I'm pretty sure during that process Dad

980
00:44:49,013 --> 00:44:51,613
Speaker 3: loved a bit of a heggel to the point where

981
00:44:52,453 --> 00:44:54,533
Speaker 3: you know, there was it started off as some pretty

982
00:44:54,533 --> 00:44:56,973
Speaker 3: good treatments and then we had to leave the rubber

983
00:44:57,013 --> 00:44:59,172
Speaker 3: bands and a few other extras for a couple of years,

984
00:44:59,253 --> 00:45:00,853
Speaker 3: and then we jump back into it. So maybe that

985
00:45:01,013 --> 00:45:03,013
Speaker 3: was the approach. Maybe I've let my family down by

986
00:45:03,053 --> 00:45:04,613
Speaker 3: not haggling over dental care.

987
00:45:04,653 --> 00:45:06,973
Speaker 2: If you go to the New Zealand Dental Association websites,

988
00:45:07,013 --> 00:45:08,613
Speaker 2: says the stex, so there is a document there that

989
00:45:08,653 --> 00:45:11,773
Speaker 2: shows the average price procedure throughout New Zealand, and the

990
00:45:11,813 --> 00:45:16,933
Speaker 2: prices of are dependent on region. So that's fine. So

991
00:45:17,013 --> 00:45:18,573
Speaker 2: you go to your region and you find out where

992
00:45:18,573 --> 00:45:21,893
Speaker 2: the average price is, right, yep, So I want to

993
00:45:21,893 --> 00:45:25,173
Speaker 2: go lower than the average lottery. So if the person

994
00:45:25,613 --> 00:45:27,773
Speaker 2: the dentist says you this is the price, and you

995
00:45:27,893 --> 00:45:29,133
Speaker 2: look it up and you go, well that's the average

996
00:45:29,133 --> 00:45:30,733
Speaker 2: price for the area. You go, well, can you do

997
00:45:30,853 --> 00:45:33,053
Speaker 2: me better than the average. Yeah, you know, someone's got

998
00:45:33,053 --> 00:45:34,253
Speaker 2: to be less than the average and someone's got to

999
00:45:34,293 --> 00:45:35,453
Speaker 2: be more than the average to find the average.

1000
00:45:35,493 --> 00:45:37,773
Speaker 3: Right, not a bad negotiating tactic. But what do you say?

1001
00:45:37,813 --> 00:45:40,373
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty nine to nine

1002
00:45:40,413 --> 00:45:42,293
Speaker 3: two is the text? Do you haggle with your dentist?

1003
00:45:42,413 --> 00:45:46,373
Speaker 3: Is it okay to haggle with those in the medical realm?

1004
00:45:47,373 --> 00:45:48,933
Speaker 3: Or is it a step too far for you? Really

1005
00:45:49,013 --> 00:45:50,133
Speaker 3: can to hear your thoughts on this one?

1006
00:45:50,133 --> 00:45:50,333
Speaker 21: I wait.

1007
00:45:50,333 --> 00:45:51,733
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is number to call.

1008
00:45:51,813 --> 00:45:53,493
Speaker 3: Nineteen nine two is the TEXTS twelve past.

1009
00:45:53,333 --> 00:45:58,293
Speaker 1: Two your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

1010
00:45:58,373 --> 00:46:02,413
Speaker 1: afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said.

1011
00:46:02,213 --> 00:46:07,573
Speaker 3: Be quarterbas too s talking about haggling with your dentist?

1012
00:46:07,773 --> 00:46:10,213
Speaker 3: Is that too far? Should you negotiate with your dentist?

1013
00:46:10,253 --> 00:46:12,133
Speaker 3: Or if you're getting any sort of medical procedure? But

1014
00:46:12,173 --> 00:46:14,933
Speaker 3: also where is the line when it comes to haggling?

1015
00:46:15,053 --> 00:46:18,293
Speaker 3: Are there businesses that you should never haggle with? Or

1016
00:46:18,413 --> 00:46:20,413
Speaker 3: should it be open game for all? O e one

1017
00:46:20,493 --> 00:46:22,573
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Nine,

1018
00:46:22,613 --> 00:46:25,493
Speaker 3: two ninety two is the text. A couple of texts

1019
00:46:25,493 --> 00:46:28,733
Speaker 3: coming through this one says definitely negotiate. I mean I

1020
00:46:28,813 --> 00:46:30,733
Speaker 3: went to get my teeth done and it was going

1021
00:46:30,773 --> 00:46:33,573
Speaker 3: to cost eighteen one hundred dollars for a root canal

1022
00:46:33,813 --> 00:46:36,853
Speaker 3: on my front top tooth. I got a second referral,

1023
00:46:37,093 --> 00:46:39,413
Speaker 3: ended up not needing that root canal at all. So

1024
00:46:39,493 --> 00:46:41,893
Speaker 3: I feel like this is taking advantage of prices when

1025
00:46:41,893 --> 00:46:43,533
Speaker 3: they can yeaestine.

1026
00:46:43,573 --> 00:46:47,373
Speaker 2: But to get a second opinion a dentist at a dentist, sorry,

1027
00:46:47,373 --> 00:46:51,613
Speaker 2: you have to pay their initial inspection, which is what how.

1028
00:46:51,573 --> 00:46:53,053
Speaker 3: Much two hundred consultation?

1029
00:46:53,133 --> 00:46:53,293
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1030
00:46:53,293 --> 00:46:55,093
Speaker 3: About one fifty to two hundred for a consultation.

1031
00:46:55,413 --> 00:46:58,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know you're already down, you know, three

1032
00:46:59,013 --> 00:47:01,453
Speaker 2: hundred to four hundred bucks just trying to find out

1033
00:47:01,453 --> 00:47:04,253
Speaker 2: whether you're going to pay five thousand dollars. How arrogant

1034
00:47:04,293 --> 00:47:06,533
Speaker 2: are you? You think you know d innistry more than

1035
00:47:06,573 --> 00:47:09,533
Speaker 2: the dentist. Pay up and shut up, you narcissists. Love

1036
00:47:09,573 --> 00:47:11,893
Speaker 2: the show, by the way, it's good.

1037
00:47:12,573 --> 00:47:14,933
Speaker 3: That's a roller coaster of emotions that text. But thank

1038
00:47:14,973 --> 00:47:15,493
Speaker 3: you very much.

1039
00:47:15,573 --> 00:47:17,533
Speaker 2: My thing is that you can question how much a

1040
00:47:17,933 --> 00:47:20,413
Speaker 2: dentist is charging without questioning how good the dentist is.

1041
00:47:21,013 --> 00:47:22,973
Speaker 2: You're just questioning how much they're willing to charge or

1042
00:47:22,973 --> 00:47:27,293
Speaker 2: how much they think the market prices for what they're doing. Yeah,

1043
00:47:27,333 --> 00:47:29,613
Speaker 2: and you and tell you what you need to do

1044
00:47:29,693 --> 00:47:30,733
Speaker 2: is you need to just have a bit of a

1045
00:47:30,733 --> 00:47:32,733
Speaker 2: sideways glance at their number of bookings they've got, or

1046
00:47:32,773 --> 00:47:35,013
Speaker 2: how many people are in the waiting room. The waiting

1047
00:47:35,093 --> 00:47:38,173
Speaker 2: room's packed, then they can say goodbye to your business.

1048
00:47:38,173 --> 00:47:38,933
Speaker 3: But you've got the power.

1049
00:47:39,093 --> 00:47:40,933
Speaker 2: If you're the only one there the whole time you're there,

1050
00:47:41,293 --> 00:47:44,293
Speaker 2: then you go, well, this this muppet needs my business,

1051
00:47:44,293 --> 00:47:45,692
Speaker 2: so I'm not going to pay the full price.

1052
00:47:45,773 --> 00:47:48,133
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, good points and underd eighty ten eighties number

1053
00:47:48,133 --> 00:47:51,133
Speaker 3: to call. Get a guyles, Hey, how are you doing?

1054
00:47:51,493 --> 00:47:52,853
Speaker 3: Very good? So what's your thoughts?

1055
00:47:54,413 --> 00:47:55,093
Speaker 7: My best friends a.

1056
00:47:55,133 --> 00:47:57,692
Speaker 19: Dentist, and so we've had many long conversations about it.

1057
00:47:57,893 --> 00:48:01,613
Speaker 19: He's obviously often asked about the bill. He's a top

1058
00:48:01,613 --> 00:48:05,653
Speaker 19: flight dentist, so works out upon some v and charges appropriately.

1059
00:48:05,973 --> 00:48:06,212
Speaker 2: Yep.

1060
00:48:07,373 --> 00:48:08,693
Speaker 7: The unknown cast early, I.

1061
00:48:08,693 --> 00:48:09,893
Speaker 22: Think is the materials.

1062
00:48:10,133 --> 00:48:13,053
Speaker 19: So if you want a filling that will last for

1063
00:48:13,133 --> 00:48:15,133
Speaker 19: ten years plus, you're going to pay a lot more

1064
00:48:15,173 --> 00:48:18,053
Speaker 19: for that circular material. About forty percent of the overall

1065
00:48:18,053 --> 00:48:21,252
Speaker 19: cost versus you know, to go to the cheapest guy around.

1066
00:48:21,373 --> 00:48:23,173
Speaker 19: They'll put something in that will last two years and

1067
00:48:23,173 --> 00:48:25,773
Speaker 19: then drop out and go back there getting it done

1068
00:48:26,453 --> 00:48:28,133
Speaker 19: you've done again, probably by someone else.

1069
00:48:29,413 --> 00:48:32,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean that's the same thing with everything,

1070
00:48:32,093 --> 00:48:34,893
Speaker 2: isn't it. You know that this kind of economy we've

1071
00:48:34,893 --> 00:48:37,373
Speaker 2: got now where you go to a hardware store and

1072
00:48:37,413 --> 00:48:41,573
Speaker 2: you buy a nineteen ninety five hammer and then it breaks,

1073
00:48:41,813 --> 00:48:43,373
Speaker 2: and then you buy another one, and then another one

1074
00:48:43,413 --> 00:48:46,252
Speaker 2: and another one. Whereas if you if you spend fifty

1075
00:48:46,333 --> 00:48:47,652
Speaker 2: on a hammer, if you spend one hundred and fifty

1076
00:48:47,693 --> 00:48:49,173
Speaker 2: on a hammer, that hammer will probab last you for

1077
00:48:49,173 --> 00:48:49,853
Speaker 2: the rest of your life.

1078
00:48:50,733 --> 00:48:51,693
Speaker 9: Have a good guarantee.

1079
00:48:51,773 --> 00:48:54,053
Speaker 19: But there on third Turkey teeth, you know, these people

1080
00:48:54,053 --> 00:48:56,573
Speaker 19: a go get the cheap, cheap dentistry up in Turkey

1081
00:48:56,613 --> 00:48:58,533
Speaker 19: and then come back and the teach will drop out,

1082
00:48:58,653 --> 00:49:01,053
Speaker 19: and you know, all dentists have seen it, and it

1083
00:49:01,133 --> 00:49:03,093
Speaker 19: so going to cost you three or four times as

1084
00:49:03,173 --> 00:49:05,933
Speaker 19: much to get that repaired. We'll fixed as it would

1085
00:49:05,973 --> 00:49:07,252
Speaker 19: have just to get it done in first place.

1086
00:49:07,693 --> 00:49:09,333
Speaker 2: But you know, like a dentist is making a lot

1087
00:49:09,333 --> 00:49:12,413
Speaker 2: of money aren't they? So you know, I played golf

1088
00:49:12,413 --> 00:49:15,373
Speaker 2: with a few dentists. They seem to be drive nice cars,

1089
00:49:15,493 --> 00:49:18,773
Speaker 2: nice houses, so they are making they have some they

1090
00:49:18,893 --> 00:49:20,973
Speaker 2: have if they're not fully booked out, they have some

1091
00:49:21,013 --> 00:49:22,013
Speaker 2: wiggle room on the price.

1092
00:49:22,093 --> 00:49:22,293
Speaker 11: Right.

1093
00:49:22,733 --> 00:49:26,933
Speaker 2: Is it Giles or Giless? Sorry I've never heard of

1094
00:49:26,973 --> 00:49:27,533
Speaker 2: the name Gyles.

1095
00:49:28,133 --> 00:49:30,493
Speaker 19: Apologies if she heard you mispronouncing it.

1096
00:49:31,853 --> 00:49:34,253
Speaker 3: That's my bed Giles. Remember that.

1097
00:49:37,453 --> 00:49:40,973
Speaker 8: I mean, I think dentists are top five professionals.

1098
00:49:41,693 --> 00:49:45,093
Speaker 23: And you know who wants the cheapest dentist around, right,

1099
00:49:45,173 --> 00:49:47,013
Speaker 23: It's like that is a guy who's doing a terrible

1100
00:49:47,093 --> 00:49:49,373
Speaker 23: job and doesn't have a lot of customers. You want

1101
00:49:49,413 --> 00:49:52,453
Speaker 23: someone who does have a full waiting room and there's

1102
00:49:52,493 --> 00:49:55,013
Speaker 23: a time to wait, and you have a history where

1103
00:49:55,053 --> 00:49:58,653
Speaker 23: them something goes wrong, usually he will trying to squeeze

1104
00:49:58,653 --> 00:50:00,453
Speaker 23: you in emergency stuff, I mean baste.

1105
00:50:00,493 --> 00:50:03,053
Speaker 19: The two types of patients will be people who go

1106
00:50:03,093 --> 00:50:06,692
Speaker 19: over a year and then those who only go when

1107
00:50:06,733 --> 00:50:09,373
Speaker 19: something drops out and breaks and it's an emergency. It's

1108
00:50:09,373 --> 00:50:10,652
Speaker 19: always going to be expensive, so.

1109
00:50:10,893 --> 00:50:12,573
Speaker 6: It's cool to have the dentist.

1110
00:50:12,853 --> 00:50:14,613
Speaker 2: It's cool to have a relationship with the dentist if

1111
00:50:14,693 --> 00:50:16,693
Speaker 2: if you can. I mean I'm not talking sexually, but

1112
00:50:16,773 --> 00:50:20,053
Speaker 2: I mean over time to know your dentist name, and

1113
00:50:20,173 --> 00:50:21,573
Speaker 2: you know when you go and talk to them about

1114
00:50:21,573 --> 00:50:23,293
Speaker 2: what's been going on. My dentist went to see my

1115
00:50:23,333 --> 00:50:24,133
Speaker 2: movie when it came out.

1116
00:50:24,453 --> 00:50:27,813
Speaker 3: It's a good dentist. Yeah, yep, so that's right.

1117
00:50:27,853 --> 00:50:30,212
Speaker 19: And I just think this guy's are inside your mouth

1118
00:50:30,253 --> 00:50:32,893
Speaker 19: and they're cutting and drilling and putting needles in there.

1119
00:50:32,933 --> 00:50:35,133
Speaker 19: You're on somebody can trust, and you know you've got

1120
00:50:35,213 --> 00:50:37,413
Speaker 19: a good rapport as they don't on someone who's thinking, Man,

1121
00:50:37,453 --> 00:50:39,253
Speaker 19: this guy really sissed me on the bill.

1122
00:50:40,453 --> 00:50:42,493
Speaker 12: To cut back on the aesthetic can save a few.

1123
00:50:42,453 --> 00:50:45,893
Speaker 2: Penny now, But who would you haggle with?

1124
00:50:46,013 --> 00:50:46,172
Speaker 12: Then?

1125
00:50:46,453 --> 00:50:48,213
Speaker 2: You know, you say that dentists are upstanding.

1126
00:50:50,013 --> 00:50:50,733
Speaker 24: There is room.

1127
00:50:50,813 --> 00:50:53,652
Speaker 19: So if you're getting a cosmetic job done, if I

1128
00:50:53,693 --> 00:50:56,013
Speaker 19: need like a thirty thousand dollars a bit of a

1129
00:50:56,013 --> 00:50:59,293
Speaker 19: new front teeth, you know, the whole lot. Yeah, I'm

1130
00:50:59,333 --> 00:51:01,413
Speaker 19: sure they would be open to you know, well, I've

1131
00:51:01,413 --> 00:51:03,573
Speaker 19: got a quiet come a couple of days coming up

1132
00:51:03,613 --> 00:51:04,133
Speaker 19: next month.

1133
00:51:04,373 --> 00:51:05,293
Speaker 9: Yeah, let's schedule it.

1134
00:51:05,613 --> 00:51:07,573
Speaker 19: So definitely this and worbill room around us.

1135
00:51:08,333 --> 00:51:10,093
Speaker 7: You find pointers.

1136
00:51:10,253 --> 00:51:13,533
Speaker 19: You want to find the best guy possible and then

1137
00:51:13,733 --> 00:51:16,813
Speaker 19: you know, work with him, right, And yeah.

1138
00:51:16,773 --> 00:51:21,133
Speaker 2: Would you would you haggle with a builder though, Giles.

1139
00:51:21,053 --> 00:51:22,973
Speaker 19: I think we all have and I think we all

1140
00:51:23,013 --> 00:51:25,013
Speaker 19: know the outcome when we do that, as it leads

1141
00:51:25,053 --> 00:51:26,373
Speaker 19: to problems, right, I.

1142
00:51:26,333 --> 00:51:28,053
Speaker 3: Mean, yeah, you don't want to cut on it.

1143
00:51:29,213 --> 00:51:31,173
Speaker 7: So they work with the scope when they.

1144
00:51:31,093 --> 00:51:34,173
Speaker 19: Quote, and their quote is pretty competitive. And the second

1145
00:51:34,173 --> 00:51:37,453
Speaker 19: you change anything you're wearing those plans. Yeah, life goes

1146
00:51:37,533 --> 00:51:39,733
Speaker 19: up dramatically, goes up, right, and it's all I new

1147
00:51:39,733 --> 00:51:40,772
Speaker 19: because you've changed your mind.

1148
00:51:41,013 --> 00:51:43,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, heaven to me. I was replacing the shower and

1149
00:51:43,493 --> 00:51:45,413
Speaker 3: haggled with the guy and he was just some guy

1150
00:51:45,413 --> 00:51:47,453
Speaker 3: I found online, a community builder kind of check of

1151
00:51:47,493 --> 00:51:48,973
Speaker 3: all trades, and he see it. I can, but it's

1152
00:51:49,013 --> 00:51:50,613
Speaker 3: not going to last, and say, well the price is right,

1153
00:51:50,613 --> 00:51:52,653
Speaker 3: surely it's going to last, and lo and behold it

1154
00:51:52,693 --> 00:51:54,333
Speaker 3: started to leak after about two months.

1155
00:51:54,373 --> 00:51:58,573
Speaker 2: Is you don't want to resent full builder working the house?

1156
00:51:58,653 --> 00:51:58,813
Speaker 17: Yeah?

1157
00:51:58,893 --> 00:52:01,333
Speaker 19: Yeah, he did tell that they go through a lot

1158
00:52:01,373 --> 00:52:03,093
Speaker 19: of people, right, I mean if you try and galante

1159
00:52:03,133 --> 00:52:06,613
Speaker 19: him on the price, then it gets remembered when you

1160
00:52:06,653 --> 00:52:07,253
Speaker 19: need a favor.

1161
00:52:08,053 --> 00:52:10,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks so much for you call, Giles, and apologies

1162
00:52:10,133 --> 00:52:13,613
Speaker 2: for my friend Tyler from mispronouncing your name shocking.

1163
00:52:13,693 --> 00:52:17,773
Speaker 19: Right, but anyone accidental recommend him?

1164
00:52:17,893 --> 00:52:18,493
Speaker 3: What was his name?

1165
00:52:19,813 --> 00:52:22,933
Speaker 19: Accdental message? Summer dentist stoplight.

1166
00:52:23,133 --> 00:52:25,613
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll look that up. But that's a good plug,

1167
00:52:26,133 --> 00:52:27,933
Speaker 3: all right, Good on you, Thank you, Jos.

1168
00:52:28,093 --> 00:52:30,692
Speaker 2: What kind of car does you drive? What kind of card?

1169
00:52:31,653 --> 00:52:33,893
Speaker 8: He's good like a Ali that's about ten years old.

1170
00:52:35,693 --> 00:52:39,772
Speaker 3: Respect Yeah, that's respectable, very respectable. Good on your giles.

1171
00:52:39,853 --> 00:52:42,013
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Oh one hundred and eighty ten

1172
00:52:42,093 --> 00:52:44,413
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call so haggling with your

1173
00:52:44,493 --> 00:52:49,172
Speaker 3: dentist or hagling in general. How far is too far?

1174
00:52:49,253 --> 00:52:51,173
Speaker 2: When it comes to hegling, it's being of too farthest

1175
00:52:51,213 --> 00:52:52,653
Speaker 2: Texas is met. I'd be happy to cut you a

1176
00:52:52,693 --> 00:52:54,973
Speaker 2: deal on a colonoscopy. I can do it for one

1177
00:52:55,053 --> 00:52:57,333
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. I keep my cost down by using a

1178
00:52:57,413 --> 00:52:59,533
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six of the HS Panasonic camera.

1179
00:52:59,973 --> 00:53:01,013
Speaker 3: I'll take them up on that offer.

1180
00:53:01,173 --> 00:53:01,732
Speaker 10: It's a good deal.

1181
00:53:01,813 --> 00:53:02,853
Speaker 2: A thousand dollars. That's good.

1182
00:53:02,973 --> 00:53:04,973
Speaker 3: Save that number. It's twenty two past two.

1183
00:53:09,093 --> 00:53:12,453
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons. Call OH eight hundred

1184
00:53:12,533 --> 00:53:14,653
Speaker 1: eighty eight on US Talk ZB.

1185
00:53:14,653 --> 00:53:16,573
Speaker 3: Twenty four past too. Is it okay to haggle with

1186
00:53:16,693 --> 00:53:18,613
Speaker 3: your dentists? Plenty of texts coming through.

1187
00:53:20,013 --> 00:53:22,733
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can read this out. Can

1188
00:53:22,813 --> 00:53:25,893
Speaker 2: we check that the validity of that half price to

1189
00:53:25,933 --> 00:53:28,813
Speaker 2: the other The person mentions, hell of a disk.

1190
00:53:28,653 --> 00:53:30,093
Speaker 3: Down, but yeah, I don't know if we want to

1191
00:53:30,133 --> 00:53:32,533
Speaker 3: be can we attribute that to the business and question.

1192
00:53:32,733 --> 00:53:33,133
Speaker 17: I don't know.

1193
00:53:33,373 --> 00:53:36,733
Speaker 2: We'll just we'll just check in with this this particular

1194
00:53:36,853 --> 00:53:38,812
Speaker 2: dentist to see if this is this is real, because

1195
00:53:38,813 --> 00:53:42,013
Speaker 2: it's very easy to hand out half prices to deal

1196
00:53:42,053 --> 00:53:45,093
Speaker 2: with the keyword z B. I'll see if it's not

1197
00:53:45,173 --> 00:53:47,013
Speaker 2: your dentistry. I'll just see if he's got a promo

1198
00:53:47,093 --> 00:53:49,732
Speaker 2: code option when I go online. But keep those texts

1199
00:53:49,773 --> 00:53:52,292
Speaker 2: coming through. Great dentists here and Guzzy says this text

1200
00:53:52,333 --> 00:53:54,773
Speaker 2: are very busy practice. Eighty five dollars for a consultation,

1201
00:53:54,973 --> 00:53:58,773
Speaker 2: that's very very competitive. Seven hundred and fifty dollars for

1202
00:53:58,813 --> 00:54:04,293
Speaker 2: a root canal. Super quick and efficient. Seven fifty dollars

1203
00:54:04,293 --> 00:54:07,413
Speaker 2: for a root canal. Yeah, super quick, inefficient.

1204
00:54:07,173 --> 00:54:10,893
Speaker 3: That's said, is a good ten to gussy on dentistry haggling.

1205
00:54:10,973 --> 00:54:13,413
Speaker 2: This tick says, ask for deals for sure, but if

1206
00:54:13,453 --> 00:54:16,493
Speaker 2: you choose to pay peanuts, expect monkeys. Cheap dentists may

1207
00:54:16,493 --> 00:54:19,973
Speaker 2: be over recommending treatments to make up the shortfall. Happens

1208
00:54:20,013 --> 00:54:22,692
Speaker 2: often and stuff may not last as long and need

1209
00:54:22,853 --> 00:54:25,293
Speaker 2: be doing sooner. Also, the risk of a shoddy job

1210
00:54:25,413 --> 00:54:28,373
Speaker 2: is bigger than teeth, than buying a dodgy car. You

1211
00:54:28,453 --> 00:54:30,293
Speaker 2: have one chance at your teeth. I mean, that's the

1212
00:54:30,293 --> 00:54:32,013
Speaker 2: way they've got you over a barrel with your teeth.

1213
00:54:32,133 --> 00:54:33,973
Speaker 2: You know, they always go to your walleye. You talk

1214
00:54:33,973 --> 00:54:36,893
Speaker 2: to your dentists. I had a fantastic dentist for many years, yep.

1215
00:54:37,413 --> 00:54:39,613
Speaker 2: But he'd always say, we want to keep those chompers

1216
00:54:39,693 --> 00:54:43,413
Speaker 2: going till you die, and we're hoping that you don't

1217
00:54:43,453 --> 00:54:45,813
Speaker 2: die for a long time, mat and so true.

1218
00:54:45,813 --> 00:54:48,253
Speaker 3: You only got one set of adult teeth, and it's

1219
00:54:48,413 --> 00:54:48,973
Speaker 3: pretty tricky.

1220
00:54:48,973 --> 00:54:50,973
Speaker 2: I mean this pp people listening right now that don't

1221
00:54:50,973 --> 00:54:54,053
Speaker 2: have teeth had them replaced with the dentis yep. And

1222
00:54:54,213 --> 00:54:56,973
Speaker 2: that's a way to live. But preferably, you want to

1223
00:54:57,013 --> 00:54:58,853
Speaker 2: keep your teeth for your whole the whole innings.

1224
00:54:59,013 --> 00:55:00,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you want to leave.

1225
00:55:00,653 --> 00:55:02,133
Speaker 2: You want to be buried with your teeth.

1226
00:55:02,293 --> 00:55:03,773
Speaker 3: And you can't even ask for a quote if you

1227
00:55:03,893 --> 00:55:05,692
Speaker 3: ring them up and say how much is it going

1228
00:55:05,733 --> 00:55:07,373
Speaker 3: to cost for me to do some work to my

1229
00:55:07,453 --> 00:55:09,533
Speaker 3: teeth and kind of work out because you've got to

1230
00:55:09,533 --> 00:55:11,373
Speaker 3: go in there and get the consultation. So well, we

1231
00:55:11,413 --> 00:55:14,093
Speaker 3: don't know. We haven't seen your teeth, Joe, how are

1232
00:55:14,133 --> 00:55:15,772
Speaker 3: you can.

1233
00:55:15,693 --> 00:55:16,413
Speaker 7: I James, you are right?

1234
00:55:16,533 --> 00:55:19,773
Speaker 18: Yeah, good, good, quick one for you.

1235
00:55:19,933 --> 00:55:22,533
Speaker 25: In the way of differential between prices between the dentists.

1236
00:55:22,613 --> 00:55:25,093
Speaker 25: I usually use my local dentists, so I went to

1237
00:55:25,173 --> 00:55:27,333
Speaker 25: go see as I've all my I've got three wisdom

1238
00:55:27,373 --> 00:55:29,813
Speaker 25: teeth that came through perfectly, which is rare, but my

1239
00:55:29,933 --> 00:55:31,533
Speaker 25: fourth one is on a bit of an angle, so

1240
00:55:31,573 --> 00:55:32,893
Speaker 25: I need to get it removed. So I went and

1241
00:55:32,973 --> 00:55:35,453
Speaker 25: saw my local dentist and she was a bit concerned

1242
00:55:35,533 --> 00:55:38,333
Speaker 25: that the wisdom tooth was a bit close to the

1243
00:55:38,413 --> 00:55:39,533
Speaker 25: nerve that runs along.

1244
00:55:39,333 --> 00:55:40,053
Speaker 9: The side of your jaw.

1245
00:55:40,493 --> 00:55:42,573
Speaker 25: So she said, look, mate, I might just recommend you

1246
00:55:42,613 --> 00:55:43,533
Speaker 25: to a specialist because I.

1247
00:55:43,533 --> 00:55:45,252
Speaker 21: Don't want to make park your face go numb.

1248
00:55:45,653 --> 00:55:47,453
Speaker 7: I said, no problem, so she recommended me.

1249
00:55:47,693 --> 00:55:50,493
Speaker 25: I think it was New Zealand Mouth Surgeons and molyophonic

1250
00:55:50,573 --> 00:55:53,733
Speaker 25: surgeons out in Newmarket, and I sent them the X

1251
00:55:53,853 --> 00:55:55,853
Speaker 25: rays because I three d X rays. I already had them,

1252
00:55:56,293 --> 00:55:58,253
Speaker 25: and I sat down with the guy for about two

1253
00:55:58,333 --> 00:56:00,053
Speaker 25: minutes before he had the bugger off and that was

1254
00:56:00,093 --> 00:56:03,533
Speaker 25: two seventy five just to that. And then they gave

1255
00:56:03,613 --> 00:56:06,173
Speaker 25: me the price of removing one wisdom tooth with sedation,

1256
00:56:06,413 --> 00:56:10,653
Speaker 25: which was two eight and fourteen including gist. And I

1257
00:56:10,733 --> 00:56:13,133
Speaker 25: spoke to my maid of mine, who uses a dentist

1258
00:56:13,133 --> 00:56:16,013
Speaker 25: around the corner from his place in Mount roscill Thompson Dental,

1259
00:56:16,093 --> 00:56:18,493
Speaker 25: who are dental surgeons and everything as well. So I

1260
00:56:18,573 --> 00:56:21,293
Speaker 25: went and book the secondary appointment with them, and I

1261
00:56:22,293 --> 00:56:24,373
Speaker 25: sat down with two of the dental surgeons for about

1262
00:56:24,413 --> 00:56:26,172
Speaker 25: half an hour as they went through my X rays,

1263
00:56:26,453 --> 00:56:28,772
Speaker 25: and he said, look, mate, your bottom with some tooth.

1264
00:56:28,813 --> 00:56:31,493
Speaker 25: That's not a problem, but we'd recommend taking that top

1265
00:56:31,533 --> 00:56:34,533
Speaker 25: wisdom tooth that's come through perfectly fine and aligning with

1266
00:56:34,613 --> 00:56:36,933
Speaker 25: it because it's going to keep growing and you'll eventually

1267
00:56:36,973 --> 00:56:39,413
Speaker 25: start chewing through your gun. I said, okay, well, what's

1268
00:56:39,453 --> 00:56:42,652
Speaker 25: that going to cost including station fourteen eighty including gist

1269
00:56:42,773 --> 00:56:43,253
Speaker 25: for two.

1270
00:56:43,173 --> 00:56:45,173
Speaker 9: T not one including station?

1271
00:56:45,773 --> 00:56:47,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, And these guys.

1272
00:56:47,293 --> 00:56:49,453
Speaker 25: Are well no, and they've got about four dental surgeons

1273
00:56:49,533 --> 00:56:52,292
Speaker 25: on site, two cosmetic surgeons, as well as three.

1274
00:56:52,253 --> 00:56:53,213
Speaker 7: Year general dentists.

1275
00:56:53,253 --> 00:56:56,093
Speaker 25: So I mean, look like you last text, I said,

1276
00:56:56,173 --> 00:56:57,692
Speaker 25: you know you past the peanuts you get with your

1277
00:56:57,693 --> 00:57:00,413
Speaker 25: pay for but these guys seemed like the real deal

1278
00:57:00,453 --> 00:57:02,693
Speaker 25: and there was an astounding price difference.

1279
00:57:03,053 --> 00:57:07,253
Speaker 2: And as it being done, Jo, no, no, that's first.

1280
00:57:07,093 --> 00:57:08,093
Speaker 18: Of April ten forty five.

1281
00:57:08,413 --> 00:57:11,133
Speaker 25: Was originally going to have my tooth done by was

1282
00:57:11,213 --> 00:57:13,493
Speaker 25: charging the arm and a leg last week. But I said, look,

1283
00:57:13,573 --> 00:57:17,053
Speaker 25: no mate, I'm canceling and rebooking with these guys aprils

1284
00:57:17,093 --> 00:57:18,133
Speaker 25: when I get that done.

1285
00:57:18,013 --> 00:57:20,773
Speaker 2: Are you sure it's one for half the cost?

1286
00:57:21,173 --> 00:57:22,973
Speaker 3: It's a hell of a day though, April the first, Can.

1287
00:57:22,893 --> 00:57:25,693
Speaker 2: You ring us on April the second and tell us

1288
00:57:25,733 --> 00:57:27,773
Speaker 2: how it went. And let's just make sure that fourteen

1289
00:57:27,773 --> 00:57:29,973
Speaker 2: eighty is not on April Full's day joke Joe.

1290
00:57:30,173 --> 00:57:32,693
Speaker 25: Oh, one hundred percent. But I don't know if you'll

1291
00:57:32,693 --> 00:57:33,653
Speaker 25: be able to hear you speaker.

1292
00:57:35,253 --> 00:57:38,053
Speaker 2: Oh well, good on you for you know, doing some research.

1293
00:57:38,093 --> 00:57:39,853
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean that two hundred and seventy five

1294
00:57:40,013 --> 00:57:42,053
Speaker 2: just for a little chat. That's great. Now, you know.

1295
00:57:43,853 --> 00:57:45,973
Speaker 25: I don't mind paying. I don't mind paying too so

1296
00:57:46,053 --> 00:57:47,973
Speaker 25: many like it is one of the temists. But if

1297
00:57:47,973 --> 00:57:49,413
Speaker 25: the guy is going to sit there in two minutes.

1298
00:57:49,573 --> 00:57:51,773
Speaker 25: Look at my X rays to thirty seconds ago. Sorry,

1299
00:57:51,773 --> 00:57:54,413
Speaker 25: I've got another patient and walk out. Did I pay

1300
00:57:54,493 --> 00:57:55,093
Speaker 25: ninety five for that?

1301
00:57:55,613 --> 00:57:55,813
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1302
00:57:56,013 --> 00:57:58,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Well good luck with that, Joe, Good luck

1303
00:57:58,853 --> 00:57:59,013
Speaker 2: with you.

1304
00:57:59,133 --> 00:58:00,693
Speaker 7: You no problem, gentlemen, nor.

1305
00:58:00,613 --> 00:58:02,453
Speaker 3: The best mate first thanks to you.

1306
00:58:02,533 --> 00:58:02,733
Speaker 2: Cool.

1307
00:58:02,813 --> 00:58:04,813
Speaker 3: Hope it all goes well. See, here's the problem. My

1308
00:58:04,933 --> 00:58:08,853
Speaker 3: dentist drove a red Ferrari license plate. Tooth with having

1309
00:58:08,893 --> 00:58:13,213
Speaker 3: a red Ferrari. But that's just that's showboating. Show boating. Yeah,

1310
00:58:13,253 --> 00:58:14,733
Speaker 3: come on, but it's it.

1311
00:58:15,413 --> 00:58:18,013
Speaker 2: That's one of those things. Where is it better to

1312
00:58:18,133 --> 00:58:21,653
Speaker 2: have If your dentist pulls up in a broken down

1313
00:58:21,733 --> 00:58:25,133
Speaker 2: old I don't know, Suzuki Swift or a Hoyondo Pony.

1314
00:58:25,413 --> 00:58:31,493
Speaker 2: Yeah and it rusted out Hoyondo pony, then do you

1315
00:58:31,533 --> 00:58:33,613
Speaker 2: trust that dentist or do you trust the dentist that

1316
00:58:33,693 --> 00:58:35,013
Speaker 2: pulls up in Aston Martin.

1317
00:58:35,133 --> 00:58:36,173
Speaker 3: It's got to be a middle ground.

1318
00:58:36,253 --> 00:58:39,293
Speaker 2: The Aston Martin guy is probably going to be better,

1319
00:58:39,333 --> 00:58:40,093
Speaker 2: bit more expensive.

1320
00:58:40,613 --> 00:58:43,093
Speaker 3: He's been successful. I think what we heard before exit

1321
00:58:43,173 --> 00:58:45,453
Speaker 3: they do a ten year old Aldi. That's the sweet

1322
00:58:45,493 --> 00:58:47,613
Speaker 3: spot to me. It's a nice car, but it's not

1323
00:58:47,773 --> 00:58:50,173
Speaker 3: too nice so he's good at his job, but he's

1324
00:58:50,253 --> 00:58:51,893
Speaker 3: not fleshy. He's the man for me.

1325
00:58:52,093 --> 00:58:54,093
Speaker 2: It's like a real estate agent. You want a realistrate

1326
00:58:54,173 --> 00:58:55,933
Speaker 2: agent that drives a nice car because you know they're

1327
00:58:55,973 --> 00:58:58,893
Speaker 2: getting good they know they're getting they're making good money

1328
00:58:58,893 --> 00:59:00,173
Speaker 2: on the sales vintage. Yeah, you know.

1329
00:59:00,373 --> 00:59:01,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like having a Frypstal trainer.

1330
00:59:02,133 --> 00:59:04,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you turn up the dentist sits in the middle, right.

1331
00:59:04,973 --> 00:59:07,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1332
00:59:07,613 --> 00:59:10,133
Speaker 3: to call. Do you aggle with your dentist? And when

1333
00:59:10,133 --> 00:59:12,413
Speaker 3: it comes to haggling full stop, is there a line

1334
00:59:12,453 --> 00:59:13,653
Speaker 3: of the people you wouldn't haggle with?

1335
00:59:13,933 --> 00:59:18,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want a dentist that's perfectly right fromponsibly a

1336
00:59:18,453 --> 00:59:21,053
Speaker 2: ten year old audie. Now that's the sweet spot for dentists.

1337
00:59:21,093 --> 00:59:23,853
Speaker 3: A sweet spot. Bang on HPAs. Two headlines coming up.

1338
00:59:25,333 --> 00:59:27,853
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1339
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1340
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1341
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Speaker 13: fish size limits after significant pushback. Just two ships are

1342
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1343
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Speaker 13: fortnight as fuel stops diminish, but officiill say there's nothing

1344
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Speaker 13: to worry about and current supply is within normal levels.

1345
00:59:53,013 --> 00:59:56,013
Speaker 13: The Auditor General says two government ministries need to work

1346
00:59:56,093 --> 01:00:00,133
Speaker 13: together to create a clearer picture of our immediate housing need.

1347
01:00:00,653 --> 01:00:03,493
Speaker 13: A new report details how one hundred and twelve thousand

1348
01:00:03,533 --> 01:00:09,613
Speaker 13: people are currently severely housing deprived. The Post is posting

1349
01:00:09,773 --> 01:00:12,853
Speaker 13: a half year profit with talks of further cost savings.

1350
01:00:13,253 --> 01:00:15,773
Speaker 13: Interim financial statements for the six months to the end

1351
01:00:15,813 --> 01:00:18,933
Speaker 13: of December show a half year net profit of thirty

1352
01:00:19,013 --> 01:00:23,133
Speaker 13: three million dollars. Multiple fire crews are fighting a large

1353
01:00:23,173 --> 01:00:26,533
Speaker 13: blaze at an auto wrecker's yard in Wellington's Upper Hut.

1354
01:00:26,973 --> 01:00:29,773
Speaker 13: Fire and Emergency is urging people to stay clear of

1355
01:00:29,853 --> 01:00:33,133
Speaker 13: the area near Blenham Street and good Shed Road and

1356
01:00:33,253 --> 01:00:36,773
Speaker 13: close all doors and windows of smoke is affecting their property.

1357
01:00:37,933 --> 01:00:40,653
Speaker 13: Is health insurance a waste of money as you get older?

1358
01:00:40,893 --> 01:00:43,613
Speaker 13: You can read Hannah McQueen's analysis. It ends in Herald

1359
01:00:43,653 --> 01:00:46,293
Speaker 13: Premium back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

1360
01:00:46,413 --> 01:00:48,453
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Ray Lean. So we're talking about

1361
01:00:48,453 --> 01:00:51,413
Speaker 3: an article by a senior lecturer at aut and Oral Health.

1362
01:00:51,493 --> 01:00:54,893
Speaker 3: She says it's pretty reasonable to haggle with your dentist

1363
01:00:54,973 --> 01:00:57,493
Speaker 3: if you don't agree with the price or the bill

1364
01:00:57,613 --> 01:00:59,213
Speaker 3: that you get. So is she rid our one hundred

1365
01:00:59,213 --> 01:00:59,733
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty?

1366
01:00:59,813 --> 01:01:02,253
Speaker 2: Well, this Texas says, just ask the Travago guy about

1367
01:01:02,293 --> 01:01:04,693
Speaker 2: haggling with your dentist. What is up with that guy's

1368
01:01:04,733 --> 01:01:05,773
Speaker 2: viniers in the Travago?

1369
01:01:05,933 --> 01:01:07,693
Speaker 3: Oh mate, I'm just looking at a picture right now.

1370
01:01:07,933 --> 01:01:10,613
Speaker 2: Is there is that part of it to trick you?

1371
01:01:10,853 --> 01:01:13,853
Speaker 2: Or do they think they didn't notice? Those veneers? Some

1372
01:01:14,053 --> 01:01:16,013
Speaker 2: serious chomp Is I see that? I can't hear the

1373
01:01:16,053 --> 01:01:19,733
Speaker 2: Dravago message. All I see is chompers. He looks ridiculously,

1374
01:01:19,893 --> 01:01:21,853
Speaker 2: teams around with us, a smug comment about how he

1375
01:01:22,093 --> 01:01:25,013
Speaker 2: got a good price. That is such a downgrade from

1376
01:01:25,053 --> 01:01:25,853
Speaker 2: the Travago girl.

1377
01:01:26,053 --> 01:01:28,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened to her, that Aussie girl? She was great? Yeah,

1378
01:01:28,973 --> 01:01:31,333
Speaker 3: then you've got this, this wounder with the chompers from

1379
01:01:31,453 --> 01:01:32,853
Speaker 3: it looks like some sort of horror movie.

1380
01:01:33,013 --> 01:01:34,773
Speaker 2: So they must have done the math on it. They're like,

1381
01:01:34,933 --> 01:01:37,893
Speaker 2: people don't want to listen to an incredibly beautiful woman

1382
01:01:37,933 --> 01:01:39,333
Speaker 2: telling them how to travel. They want to see some

1383
01:01:40,053 --> 01:01:43,333
Speaker 2: middle aged wounder with a big set of veneer chompers

1384
01:01:43,413 --> 01:01:49,013
Speaker 2: that are I don't know, whiter than a pole of you.

1385
01:01:49,293 --> 01:01:52,013
Speaker 3: Oh so good. I'm looking forward to seeing that out again. Yeah,

1386
01:01:52,373 --> 01:01:54,413
Speaker 3: keep those Texscamatero on nineteen nine two.

1387
01:01:54,613 --> 01:01:56,653
Speaker 2: Scott says, what you're forgetting is that most enters, like

1388
01:01:56,733 --> 01:01:59,253
Speaker 2: car dealers, are extremely busy and don't need your business.

1389
01:01:59,413 --> 01:02:01,973
Speaker 2: They would rightly tell you to walk. And remember that

1390
01:02:02,133 --> 01:02:04,893
Speaker 2: about sixty percent of what your you pay is going

1391
01:02:04,933 --> 01:02:08,093
Speaker 2: towards expenses, takeaway tax, GSC and ACC and you're down

1392
01:02:08,093 --> 01:02:10,493
Speaker 2: to So dentists are not exactly rolling in it as

1393
01:02:10,533 --> 01:02:12,733
Speaker 2: you think. Yes, but I know a lot of dentists

1394
01:02:12,773 --> 01:02:15,533
Speaker 2: and they are rolling in it. Every dentist I know.

1395
01:02:16,813 --> 01:02:18,413
Speaker 2: You know, when I went to UNI, a couple of

1396
01:02:18,453 --> 01:02:20,653
Speaker 2: my mates, we're doing the dentistry school, and they're driving

1397
01:02:20,733 --> 01:02:22,853
Speaker 2: very nice cars and living very nice lives.

1398
01:02:22,973 --> 01:02:26,093
Speaker 3: There's dentists in my family and they did very very well.

1399
01:02:26,333 --> 01:02:27,173
Speaker 10: And good on them.

1400
01:02:27,453 --> 01:02:29,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying why they shouldn't. They worked hard.

1401
01:02:29,853 --> 01:02:33,013
Speaker 2: It's it's a challenging job. It's a lot of training,

1402
01:02:33,053 --> 01:02:35,093
Speaker 2: a lot of debt getting into it. So it's absolutely

1403
01:02:35,893 --> 01:02:37,933
Speaker 2: good on them. But yeah, that's why I was saying

1404
01:02:37,973 --> 01:02:41,213
Speaker 2: before Scott Texter that look at look at the look

1405
01:02:41,253 --> 01:02:43,453
Speaker 2: at the waiting room. If the waiting room's empty, then

1406
01:02:43,493 --> 01:02:46,813
Speaker 2: haggle with the rating rooms full. Then then you probably don't.

1407
01:02:47,053 --> 01:02:49,373
Speaker 2: You don't probably have You probably don't have the power

1408
01:02:49,413 --> 01:02:51,093
Speaker 2: you think you do. Chris, welcome to the show.

1409
01:02:52,133 --> 01:02:55,293
Speaker 17: There you're going, guys, very good. I'm looking they give

1410
01:02:55,333 --> 01:02:59,013
Speaker 17: you my week scenario. I had a line in my

1411
01:02:59,173 --> 01:03:02,973
Speaker 17: mouth and I got pulled out quite aggressively, got pulled

1412
01:03:03,013 --> 01:03:06,693
Speaker 17: out and loosened my two bottom.

1413
01:03:06,933 --> 01:03:09,453
Speaker 2: You had you had? You had what in your mouth? Sorry, Chris?

1414
01:03:09,893 --> 01:03:10,413
Speaker 17: A line?

1415
01:03:10,853 --> 01:03:11,333
Speaker 2: A line?

1416
01:03:11,693 --> 01:03:12,253
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

1417
01:03:13,093 --> 01:03:14,253
Speaker 17: Piece of Well?

1418
01:03:14,253 --> 01:03:16,453
Speaker 4: I was and and.

1419
01:03:18,333 --> 01:03:20,893
Speaker 17: I had to do it ter maneuver, and I had

1420
01:03:20,933 --> 01:03:23,173
Speaker 17: a paraplegic in the yart and I had to get

1421
01:03:23,253 --> 01:03:26,253
Speaker 17: turned around before we squol hit. And so I put

1422
01:03:26,333 --> 01:03:27,773
Speaker 17: the line in my mouth because I had to do

1423
01:03:27,813 --> 01:03:29,653
Speaker 17: a couple of other things at the same time. And

1424
01:03:29,733 --> 01:03:31,973
Speaker 17: then a squawl hit me and ripped the line out

1425
01:03:31,973 --> 01:03:35,733
Speaker 17: of my mouth, and it loosened up my two bottom

1426
01:03:35,813 --> 01:03:39,453
Speaker 17: teeth in the middle. And over a period of time

1427
01:03:39,653 --> 01:03:41,133
Speaker 17: I went to the dentist and try and get him

1428
01:03:41,133 --> 01:03:44,373
Speaker 17: and put a wee bit of glue on it so

1429
01:03:44,533 --> 01:03:47,693
Speaker 17: hold in place until they reset again, but he refused

1430
01:03:47,693 --> 01:03:50,213
Speaker 17: to do it. Oh you got gum disease, you know,

1431
01:03:50,373 --> 01:03:52,053
Speaker 17: And I said, well, I might have gum disease. But

1432
01:03:52,093 --> 01:03:55,213
Speaker 17: they went They went loose beforehand, but they are now.

1433
01:03:56,293 --> 01:03:58,173
Speaker 17: So what happened was they got looser and looser and

1434
01:03:58,253 --> 01:03:59,853
Speaker 17: looser now, and I got like a pair of flies

1435
01:03:59,853 --> 01:04:03,653
Speaker 17: and I pulled them out. But the two besides, you

1436
01:04:03,733 --> 01:04:05,973
Speaker 17: did some self dentistry, so I did.

1437
01:04:06,293 --> 01:04:08,773
Speaker 2: So how did you do that? Did you just which

1438
01:04:08,813 --> 01:04:09,333
Speaker 2: teeth were they?

1439
01:04:09,333 --> 01:04:09,453
Speaker 8: Were?

1440
01:04:09,493 --> 01:04:09,613
Speaker 7: They?

1441
01:04:09,733 --> 01:04:11,333
Speaker 2: They sort of I guess if with the line is

1442
01:04:11,373 --> 01:04:12,693
Speaker 2: they mid ones on the bottom.

1443
01:04:13,493 --> 01:04:15,493
Speaker 17: They're very ere that while it was two to one

1444
01:04:15,653 --> 01:04:17,773
Speaker 17: side and now there's two to the other side, have

1445
01:04:17,893 --> 01:04:21,413
Speaker 17: got loose. And when I ate a sandwich they bend

1446
01:04:21,613 --> 01:04:24,613
Speaker 17: them are quite painful. So I rang a dentist yesterday

1447
01:04:24,693 --> 01:04:28,573
Speaker 17: to see if I could get them removed. And she

1448
01:04:28,733 --> 01:04:31,413
Speaker 17: said to me, because there's two the tube slops out

1449
01:04:31,893 --> 01:04:35,373
Speaker 17: that are loose and they're flopping around, and she goes,

1450
01:04:35,813 --> 01:04:39,933
Speaker 17: there'll be three hundred and fifty dollars each to get removed.

1451
01:04:40,573 --> 01:04:43,693
Speaker 17: It's seven hundred dollars. I'm a pensioner, and I thought,

1452
01:04:44,133 --> 01:04:46,573
Speaker 17: I'm not paying your six hundred bucks. I said, well,

1453
01:04:46,693 --> 01:04:48,333
Speaker 17: what about if I come in and you give me

1454
01:04:48,373 --> 01:04:50,293
Speaker 17: a jab in the mouth so it's not painful when

1455
01:04:50,333 --> 01:04:52,333
Speaker 17: I pull them out with a pair of blows here

1456
01:04:52,453 --> 01:04:54,773
Speaker 17: enough and she goes, no, I'm not doing that either,

1457
01:04:55,373 --> 01:04:58,253
Speaker 17: So they're not willing to help people. I'm in pain

1458
01:04:58,413 --> 01:05:00,133
Speaker 17: and I just want someone to help me out. But

1459
01:05:01,053 --> 01:05:03,053
Speaker 17: I'm happy to pay a couple hundred bucks, but not

1460
01:05:03,213 --> 01:05:05,653
Speaker 17: paying seven hundred dollars to get two teeth removing the

1461
01:05:05,693 --> 01:05:06,373
Speaker 17: front of the loose.

1462
01:05:06,613 --> 01:05:08,573
Speaker 2: When you pulled out your teeth with the pliers, Chris,

1463
01:05:08,773 --> 01:05:10,773
Speaker 2: did the whole route come out? Because because because that,

1464
01:05:10,853 --> 01:05:12,893
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the shocking thing about teeth. How how

1465
01:05:13,293 --> 01:05:14,453
Speaker 2: long they go under the gum?

1466
01:05:15,133 --> 01:05:17,333
Speaker 17: Well, yeah, the whole tooth came out, the whole because

1467
01:05:17,373 --> 01:05:20,013
Speaker 17: that's what happened, got loosened. The whole thing got loosened.

1468
01:05:20,333 --> 01:05:23,013
Speaker 2: And what did you do for an anesthetic? Could you

1469
01:05:23,133 --> 01:05:24,333
Speaker 2: just nothing?

1470
01:05:24,373 --> 01:05:25,093
Speaker 12: I just called it out?

1471
01:05:25,173 --> 01:05:28,333
Speaker 2: And did you look anything up or did you just

1472
01:05:28,733 --> 01:05:30,613
Speaker 2: get there? And what kind of place did you use?

1473
01:05:31,053 --> 01:05:31,813
Speaker 2: Long those plays?

1474
01:05:33,653 --> 01:05:35,453
Speaker 3: Did you think about just tying some nylon on and

1475
01:05:35,693 --> 01:05:36,733
Speaker 3: getting on the sailboat again?

1476
01:05:37,933 --> 01:05:39,133
Speaker 17: I did, I didn't think about that.

1477
01:05:39,493 --> 01:05:44,053
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're not going to get a situation where

1478
01:05:44,053 --> 01:05:45,333
Speaker 2: you could with the dentists.

1479
01:05:45,493 --> 01:05:49,493
Speaker 17: Got to say that three dculars paying seven hundred dollars

1480
01:05:49,573 --> 01:05:52,453
Speaker 17: to get like it'd be different if it was like

1481
01:05:53,093 --> 01:05:55,853
Speaker 17: a one at the back and it was you know,

1482
01:05:56,013 --> 01:05:57,733
Speaker 17: you had it was like a wisdom tooth or something

1483
01:05:57,773 --> 01:06:00,053
Speaker 17: of that. You know, I don't mind paying, but yeah,

1484
01:06:00,373 --> 01:06:02,733
Speaker 17: these are loose, so I just want them. I just

1485
01:06:02,773 --> 01:06:04,933
Speaker 17: want to be out of pain. They're really good, but

1486
01:06:05,133 --> 01:06:06,173
Speaker 17: no one's prepared to help me.

1487
01:06:06,453 --> 01:06:10,253
Speaker 2: Okay, think if you call Chris, I'm loving the self industry.

1488
01:06:10,453 --> 01:06:14,053
Speaker 2: I mean, what was your view in self industry? I mean,

1489
01:06:14,093 --> 01:06:16,453
Speaker 2: I mean I can't see a situation, Tyler where you

1490
01:06:16,573 --> 01:06:19,093
Speaker 2: go in and they say, oh well, we'll take care

1491
01:06:19,133 --> 01:06:21,133
Speaker 2: of the anesthetic, but you go for your life with

1492
01:06:21,213 --> 01:06:21,813
Speaker 2: your pliers.

1493
01:06:22,293 --> 01:06:24,013
Speaker 3: They just had a lot little room in the back

1494
01:06:24,133 --> 01:06:25,773
Speaker 3: and they've got all the tools you need. A couple

1495
01:06:25,773 --> 01:06:27,573
Speaker 3: of pliers, maybe all we hammer and say we'll give

1496
01:06:27,613 --> 01:06:29,053
Speaker 3: you a shot, and then you go for gold and

1497
01:06:29,253 --> 01:06:29,653
Speaker 3: we're out.

1498
01:06:29,773 --> 01:06:32,413
Speaker 2: It's like the supermarket. You've got the self checkout, and

1499
01:06:32,493 --> 01:06:34,773
Speaker 2: you've got the checkout. You go see, we've got the

1500
01:06:34,813 --> 01:06:36,973
Speaker 2: self industry room. We will just give you the anesthetic

1501
01:06:37,053 --> 01:06:39,253
Speaker 2: and you go for your life with a pair of pliers,

1502
01:06:39,333 --> 01:06:41,013
Speaker 2: bring your own, and we've got and but if you

1503
01:06:41,053 --> 01:06:42,213
Speaker 2: want to pay a bit more than you can, come

1504
01:06:42,213 --> 01:06:43,573
Speaker 2: and sit in the chair and we'll do it.

1505
01:06:44,093 --> 01:06:47,373
Speaker 3: So that sounds like I wanted to you. Oh one

1506
01:06:47,453 --> 01:06:50,573
Speaker 3: hundred eighty nine to nine two is the text as well.

1507
01:06:50,733 --> 01:06:53,173
Speaker 2: Kevin says, I had some brilliant inintal work done in Vietnam,

1508
01:06:53,413 --> 01:06:55,933
Speaker 2: very professional. They used products from the US and paid

1509
01:06:56,013 --> 01:06:57,693
Speaker 2: less than a third of the price. Kevin.

1510
01:06:58,013 --> 01:07:00,893
Speaker 3: Good on, Kevin, Vietnam. Right, we're going to take a break,

1511
01:07:00,973 --> 01:07:02,573
Speaker 3: but taking more of your calls. Oh, eight hundred and

1512
01:07:02,573 --> 01:07:05,173
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty and speaking of Vietnam, a country pretty

1513
01:07:05,173 --> 01:07:05,933
Speaker 3: close as Thailand.

1514
01:07:06,253 --> 01:07:07,173
Speaker 2: And Sharon's called up.

1515
01:07:07,253 --> 01:07:08,813
Speaker 3: She had some work done and tail we have a

1516
01:07:08,893 --> 01:07:11,573
Speaker 3: chat to her next. It is nineteen to three.

1517
01:07:12,133 --> 01:07:15,093
Speaker 2: Ah, that's right. I found this out. Hey, careful, you muppets,

1518
01:07:15,133 --> 01:07:17,493
Speaker 2: the Trafago guys. The previous Liverpool manager who had an

1519
01:07:17,533 --> 01:07:20,493
Speaker 2: outstanding career as opposed to you too ordinary radio jobs

1520
01:07:20,573 --> 01:07:21,133
Speaker 2: Jurgen Klop.

1521
01:07:21,253 --> 01:07:23,373
Speaker 3: I didn't know it was Yugen, but that doesn't excuse

1522
01:07:23,493 --> 01:07:24,773
Speaker 3: those crazy chompers here.

1523
01:07:24,853 --> 01:07:26,893
Speaker 2: John. I don't care who he is. He's got the

1524
01:07:27,053 --> 01:07:31,293
Speaker 2: stupidest pair of veneers. He could be bloody mother, Theresa. Mate,

1525
01:07:31,973 --> 01:07:35,253
Speaker 2: he could be Einstein. But if you're turning up with

1526
01:07:35,293 --> 01:07:38,613
Speaker 2: a pair of chompers like that, then you're a vain.

1527
01:07:39,493 --> 01:07:42,293
Speaker 2: There's something seriously wrong with you in one part of

1528
01:07:42,333 --> 01:07:44,693
Speaker 2: your life that you think that that's a reasonable way

1529
01:07:44,733 --> 01:07:45,533
Speaker 2: to get your teeth done.

1530
01:07:46,133 --> 01:07:49,573
Speaker 3: John nicely said, mate, right, Begary shortly. It is nineteen

1531
01:07:49,653 --> 01:07:50,053
Speaker 3: to three.

1532
01:07:50,693 --> 01:07:52,213
Speaker 2: He's got his teeth are terrible?

1533
01:07:52,333 --> 01:07:53,293
Speaker 3: Yeah again, sort it out.

1534
01:07:53,453 --> 01:07:56,613
Speaker 2: Whatever he's done, good footballer, whatever he's achieved in his life, yep,

1535
01:07:56,853 --> 01:07:59,253
Speaker 2: have been erased by those embarrassing chompers.

1536
01:08:02,213 --> 01:08:05,133
Speaker 1: Matt and Tyler with you as your afternoon rolls on

1537
01:08:05,493 --> 01:08:08,733
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons with Scot again.

1538
01:08:08,773 --> 01:08:09,613
Speaker 9: You crack the code?

1539
01:08:09,653 --> 01:08:12,293
Speaker 6: Please go to Codes every Day News Talks dea'd be.

1540
01:08:12,493 --> 01:08:14,333
Speaker 3: For a good afternoon? Ju it is sixteen to three.

1541
01:08:14,453 --> 01:08:16,492
Speaker 3: Is it okay to haggle with your dentist?

1542
01:08:16,532 --> 01:08:16,692
Speaker 7: ID?

1543
01:08:16,773 --> 01:08:18,412
Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten eighties the number to call?

1544
01:08:19,572 --> 01:08:24,892
Speaker 2: So Jurgen Klop and the travago ad with the Terrible Veneers.

1545
01:08:26,372 --> 01:08:29,173
Speaker 2: He reached global elite status as Liverpool FC, winning the

1546
01:08:29,253 --> 01:08:31,772
Speaker 2: Champions League in twenty nineteen and inning the club's thirty

1547
01:08:31,853 --> 01:08:34,253
Speaker 2: year wait for a league title in twenty twenty, then

1548
01:08:34,372 --> 01:08:38,133
Speaker 2: humiliated himself with a pair of the most over the

1549
01:08:38,213 --> 01:08:38,972
Speaker 2: top veneers.

1550
01:08:39,333 --> 01:08:41,412
Speaker 3: Yep, he went with a Hollywood treatment.

1551
01:08:41,652 --> 01:08:45,812
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what he's done before. For me, he'll

1552
01:08:45,812 --> 01:08:49,133
Speaker 2: always be known as the mulating veneer guy in the

1553
01:08:49,173 --> 01:08:51,133
Speaker 2: travago Ad. And that's that. You've got to be careful

1554
01:08:51,133 --> 01:08:52,852
Speaker 2: of that in your career. You don't reach the heights

1555
01:08:53,333 --> 01:08:55,892
Speaker 2: of heights the very very top of your career, then

1556
01:08:55,933 --> 01:09:00,133
Speaker 2: you just get a vanity induced procedure and that's what

1557
01:09:00,213 --> 01:09:01,532
Speaker 2: you'll be remembered for exactly.

1558
01:09:01,732 --> 01:09:03,652
Speaker 3: Yep, there's a listener that I ad one hundred eighty

1559
01:09:03,692 --> 01:09:07,293
Speaker 3: ten eighties the number to call yet a Sharon. Hello, Hello,

1560
01:09:07,293 --> 01:09:09,693
Speaker 3: are you very good words? Can you get your thoughts.

1561
01:09:11,293 --> 01:09:11,492
Speaker 7: Well?

1562
01:09:11,692 --> 01:09:15,412
Speaker 24: I hate dentists. I was brought up with the dental nurse,

1563
01:09:15,492 --> 01:09:20,892
Speaker 24: so that just puts me right anxious. Anyway. Twenty sixteen,

1564
01:09:21,013 --> 01:09:24,613
Speaker 24: we went to Thailand to Sea Smile over in Pouquette.

1565
01:09:25,293 --> 01:09:29,652
Speaker 24: Best thing ever. I had twelve crowns. I went in

1566
01:09:30,013 --> 01:09:34,013
Speaker 24: on the Monday. They did half of my face and

1567
01:09:34,093 --> 01:09:37,213
Speaker 24: took all their mailbum out and then they said, look,

1568
01:09:37,253 --> 01:09:40,013
Speaker 24: would you come back later on this afternoon and they

1569
01:09:40,093 --> 01:09:42,612
Speaker 24: do the other six. I said yes because I couldn't

1570
01:09:42,692 --> 01:09:46,333
Speaker 24: feel a thing. The needles going and were amazing and

1571
01:09:46,532 --> 01:09:50,852
Speaker 24: no after numbness and things like that. They did that

1572
01:09:51,692 --> 01:09:53,932
Speaker 24: and two days later I had all the twelve crowns

1573
01:09:54,013 --> 01:09:57,532
Speaker 24: put back in and since then I've never had any

1574
01:09:57,732 --> 01:10:01,572
Speaker 24: problems whatsoever. I'm off to Thailand again in about two

1575
01:10:01,612 --> 01:10:03,572
Speaker 24: months time and we're going to get some more drome.

1576
01:10:04,213 --> 01:10:05,572
Speaker 2: And how long do you spend over there when you

1577
01:10:05,652 --> 01:10:07,012
Speaker 2: get it? Do you throw a bit of a holiday

1578
01:10:07,013 --> 01:10:07,892
Speaker 2: in the mix there? Sharon?

1579
01:10:08,973 --> 01:10:11,372
Speaker 24: Yeah, sometimes we go, but normally it's about a week

1580
01:10:11,412 --> 01:10:14,492
Speaker 24: to ten days. And I had an.

1581
01:10:14,412 --> 01:10:18,052
Speaker 2: Implant as well, an implant where and I hadn't.

1582
01:10:19,053 --> 01:10:22,133
Speaker 24: In my upper mouth, and that was two thousand dollars

1583
01:10:22,213 --> 01:10:25,572
Speaker 24: to put their implant, and the truth was seventeen hundred, right.

1584
01:10:25,853 --> 01:10:28,132
Speaker 2: And were you nervous able at all, you know, traveling

1585
01:10:28,213 --> 01:10:29,172
Speaker 2: for that kind of procedure.

1586
01:10:30,372 --> 01:10:32,612
Speaker 24: No, because I'd also had some friends that had gone

1587
01:10:32,652 --> 01:10:36,173
Speaker 24: to the same place and absolutely perfect. And when you

1588
01:10:36,293 --> 01:10:39,173
Speaker 24: go in there, they're all Australians and New Zealanders, all

1589
01:10:39,293 --> 01:10:42,813
Speaker 24: waiting to have their teeth done and I've had absolutely

1590
01:10:43,093 --> 01:10:47,412
Speaker 24: no issues whatsoever when I have it clean, because I

1591
01:10:47,492 --> 01:10:50,812
Speaker 24: have them cleaned as well, and over here it hurts

1592
01:10:50,853 --> 01:10:54,892
Speaker 24: like hell. Over there nothing and they take your blood pressure,

1593
01:10:55,053 --> 01:10:58,732
Speaker 24: your temperature before you go. They're always so respectful of

1594
01:10:58,853 --> 01:10:59,972
Speaker 24: your best thing.

1595
01:11:00,013 --> 01:11:00,213
Speaker 12: Ever.

1596
01:11:00,933 --> 01:11:02,372
Speaker 2: Is there any of you ever heard any sort of

1597
01:11:02,452 --> 01:11:07,173
Speaker 2: downside of it? Any any horror stories that you've heard, Sharon?

1598
01:11:08,452 --> 01:11:10,772
Speaker 3: Not where we go now, right?

1599
01:11:12,213 --> 01:11:16,012
Speaker 24: Would I'd absolutely recommend it. And it's so much cheaper,

1600
01:11:16,412 --> 01:11:18,692
Speaker 24: like I think for those twelve crowns it was about

1601
01:11:18,732 --> 01:11:19,692
Speaker 24: four and a half thousand.

1602
01:11:20,093 --> 01:11:23,812
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, because I mean, what's a crown treatment? Here

1603
01:11:23,933 --> 01:11:25,012
Speaker 2: is so expensive?

1604
01:11:25,492 --> 01:11:27,652
Speaker 3: So how did you exactly how did your book at Sharon?

1605
01:11:27,692 --> 01:11:27,852
Speaker 15: Did you?

1606
01:11:28,093 --> 01:11:31,013
Speaker 3: Is it get some sort of travel agency email them?

1607
01:11:31,492 --> 01:11:33,772
Speaker 24: No, I did it all my sat ourselves and we

1608
01:11:34,013 --> 01:11:37,452
Speaker 24: just email them directly. They come back with you and

1609
01:11:37,532 --> 01:11:41,253
Speaker 24: give you a rough quote. And then so when we land,

1610
01:11:41,452 --> 01:11:45,293
Speaker 24: I think and Touquette, we go to Petong and then

1611
01:11:45,572 --> 01:11:49,053
Speaker 24: I have appointment that afternoon and then they just work

1612
01:11:49,093 --> 01:11:52,012
Speaker 24: out a plan for you over those six or seven days.

1613
01:11:53,053 --> 01:11:54,652
Speaker 3: Right, it sounds like a great way to do it.

1614
01:11:54,812 --> 01:11:56,213
Speaker 3: Tag your holiday on the end of it, and it

1615
01:11:56,293 --> 01:11:57,532
Speaker 3: sounds like top treatment as well.

1616
01:11:58,652 --> 01:12:01,412
Speaker 21: Exactly, it's great, good on you and good.

1617
01:12:01,253 --> 01:12:01,692
Speaker 2: On your mouth.

1618
01:12:01,772 --> 01:12:04,133
Speaker 3: Well down, Sharon, oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1619
01:12:04,133 --> 01:12:06,133
Speaker 3: If you like Sharon and you've gone overseas to get

1620
01:12:06,173 --> 01:12:07,932
Speaker 3: your teeth done, love to hear your story.

1621
01:12:08,333 --> 01:12:10,372
Speaker 2: But how much is a crown here?

1622
01:12:11,412 --> 01:12:13,932
Speaker 3: Big money? I've never had to do one myself. Crown

1623
01:12:14,053 --> 01:12:15,972
Speaker 3: cost and in zed.

1624
01:12:17,372 --> 01:12:21,173
Speaker 2: O tell it. There's a lot of Jorgan fans out there,

1625
01:12:21,532 --> 01:12:24,732
Speaker 2: certainly is about I don't follow the premiership at all.

1626
01:12:26,053 --> 01:12:30,333
Speaker 2: I played football hard into my thirties, but I've never

1627
01:12:30,372 --> 01:12:33,293
Speaker 2: followed the premiership, so I was not I just knew

1628
01:12:33,293 --> 01:12:35,492
Speaker 2: that that was a big vineered wounder.

1629
01:12:35,933 --> 01:12:38,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had a lot of work done on those teats.

1630
01:12:38,213 --> 01:12:40,013
Speaker 2: Now I know it's called Now I know it's a

1631
01:12:40,053 --> 01:12:43,173
Speaker 2: big veneered wounder that used to be a very successful

1632
01:12:43,772 --> 01:12:45,372
Speaker 2: Liverpool football manager.

1633
01:12:45,452 --> 01:12:47,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I love the show. You learn a lot.

1634
01:12:48,692 --> 01:12:50,372
Speaker 3: Two is that text. We'll get to a few of

1635
01:12:50,372 --> 01:12:53,532
Speaker 3: those very shortly. It is eleven to three. We will

1636
01:12:53,612 --> 01:12:55,092
Speaker 3: be back in a few minutes.

1637
01:12:55,452 --> 01:12:58,012
Speaker 2: I like about two thousand per crown.

1638
01:12:59,013 --> 01:12:59,772
Speaker 3: It's a lot of money.

1639
01:13:00,293 --> 01:13:02,293
Speaker 2: According to someone, I need to get the typical price

1640
01:13:02,333 --> 01:13:06,412
Speaker 2: about between twelve hundred and two hundred and twenty five

1641
01:13:06,492 --> 01:13:07,492
Speaker 2: hundred per crown.

1642
01:13:07,612 --> 01:13:08,932
Speaker 3: Cheap as that is a yeah.

1643
01:13:09,053 --> 01:13:09,253
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1644
01:13:09,412 --> 01:13:10,933
Speaker 2: So if you can fly to Thailand and get it

1645
01:13:11,372 --> 01:13:13,852
Speaker 2: there are there are some horror stories with that flying though.

1646
01:13:13,812 --> 01:13:14,492
Speaker 3: It can go wrong.

1647
01:13:14,612 --> 01:13:14,772
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1648
01:13:14,812 --> 01:13:18,532
Speaker 3: Absolutely. It is eleven to three, the issues that affect

1649
01:13:18,612 --> 01:13:20,452
Speaker 3: you and a bit of fun along the way.

1650
01:13:20,732 --> 01:13:24,973
Speaker 6: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons NEWSTALKSB.

1651
01:13:25,572 --> 01:13:26,972
Speaker 3: News Talks here B eight to three.

1652
01:13:28,333 --> 01:13:30,972
Speaker 6: Are you ready to crack the Scoda code?

1653
01:13:31,572 --> 01:13:33,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go. The team at Scota want to

1654
01:13:33,612 --> 01:13:35,333
Speaker 3: send you and a friend toal experience the Tour de

1655
01:13:35,372 --> 01:13:37,452
Speaker 3: France when you play Scoter codes. But if you've been

1656
01:13:37,532 --> 01:13:39,812
Speaker 3: to the Scota website for today's sco to code but

1657
01:13:39,933 --> 01:13:41,532
Speaker 3: needs some help, here is your clue.

1658
01:13:41,853 --> 01:13:46,572
Speaker 2: We're passion, rivalry and questionable referee calls collide. That clue again,

1659
01:13:47,093 --> 01:13:50,933
Speaker 2: We're passion, rivalry and questionable referee calls collide.

1660
01:13:51,253 --> 01:13:52,772
Speaker 3: It could be a lot of things, but make sure

1661
01:13:52,893 --> 01:13:54,933
Speaker 3: you're in to win the trip for two to the

1662
01:13:55,013 --> 01:13:58,612
Speaker 3: Tour de France at Skoda dot Co dot Nz. That

1663
01:13:58,853 --> 01:14:01,333
Speaker 3: is an amazing price to make sure you are into

1664
01:14:01,372 --> 01:14:04,492
Speaker 3: win all thanks to our mates at Skoda. Back to

1665
01:14:04,532 --> 01:14:06,492
Speaker 3: our discussion about haggling with your dentists.

1666
01:14:06,612 --> 01:14:12,372
Speaker 2: Did anyone tell Jorgan that is veneers look ridiculous when

1667
01:14:12,372 --> 01:14:14,932
Speaker 2: they were putting them in? Di The dentists that put

1668
01:14:15,013 --> 01:14:19,253
Speaker 2: those in say they look great, because you know, the

1669
01:14:19,293 --> 01:14:21,372
Speaker 2: whole world said you look like an idiot with those.

1670
01:14:21,732 --> 01:14:21,932
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1671
01:14:22,333 --> 01:14:24,293
Speaker 2: Is it up to the dentist to point out that

1672
01:14:24,612 --> 01:14:28,172
Speaker 2: you've gone too far that these these veneers may look ridiculous?

1673
01:14:28,173 --> 01:14:29,412
Speaker 3: I think an honorable dentist.

1674
01:14:29,532 --> 01:14:34,173
Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's like Michael Jackson's plastic surgeons. Yeah, did none

1675
01:14:34,213 --> 01:14:37,253
Speaker 2: of them go? You look horrific. You look like the

1676
01:14:37,293 --> 01:14:39,092
Speaker 2: Phantom of the Operators as a disaster.

1677
01:14:39,372 --> 01:14:41,333
Speaker 3: Clearly not, because he kept going. He just said more

1678
01:14:41,372 --> 01:14:44,333
Speaker 3: and more aftar, How are you this afternoon?

1679
01:14:45,093 --> 01:14:46,013
Speaker 26: Oh very well? Thank you?

1680
01:14:46,053 --> 01:14:47,372
Speaker 2: How are you good to chat with you?

1681
01:14:47,492 --> 01:14:48,652
Speaker 3: You're a dentist, is that right?

1682
01:14:49,372 --> 01:14:51,612
Speaker 26: I am man? I got a I've got two messages

1683
01:14:51,652 --> 01:14:53,892
Speaker 26: from patient saying you've got to dial in. They're giving

1684
01:14:53,933 --> 01:14:56,293
Speaker 26: you a bashing and they might want to hear from you.

1685
01:14:56,412 --> 01:14:59,093
Speaker 3: So well, why not loving else dood on you and

1686
01:14:59,133 --> 01:15:00,172
Speaker 3: welcome to the cauldron.

1687
01:15:02,732 --> 01:15:05,253
Speaker 2: Well we're not, we're not. We're just there's some people

1688
01:15:05,452 --> 01:15:07,013
Speaker 2: Tyler and I haven't been given you a bathroom. We've

1689
01:15:07,053 --> 01:15:09,133
Speaker 2: just been reading out the text, mistress. And except for

1690
01:15:09,692 --> 01:15:13,772
Speaker 2: we have been saying that Jorgan's Jurgen Clops Veneers are

1691
01:15:13,812 --> 01:15:14,852
Speaker 2: two too bright and.

1692
01:15:16,452 --> 01:15:18,093
Speaker 26: I think a lot of people would agree with that,

1693
01:15:18,333 --> 01:15:19,132
Speaker 26: including myself.

1694
01:15:19,372 --> 01:15:19,532
Speaker 13: Gay.

1695
01:15:19,812 --> 01:15:23,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, good to sum that up very nicely from a professional.

1696
01:15:24,612 --> 01:15:27,173
Speaker 3: So in general, after you know, we've been talking about

1697
01:15:27,213 --> 01:15:29,213
Speaker 3: haggling with your dentists that started off with an article

1698
01:15:29,253 --> 01:15:32,492
Speaker 3: by a senior lecture and oral health at aut is

1699
01:15:32,652 --> 01:15:35,093
Speaker 3: that an appropriate thing for people to do? Is that,

1700
01:15:35,452 --> 01:15:38,172
Speaker 3: you know, not encouraged. But is that acceptable in the profession.

1701
01:15:39,213 --> 01:15:41,852
Speaker 26: I think the simple matter of fact is because we're

1702
01:15:41,853 --> 01:15:44,412
Speaker 26: not covered by the ministry and we are in private practice,

1703
01:15:44,853 --> 01:15:47,372
Speaker 26: a lot of the rules of basic commerce do apply.

1704
01:15:47,572 --> 01:15:50,612
Speaker 26: Like you wouldn't argue with somebody at the hospital because

1705
01:15:50,772 --> 01:15:53,093
Speaker 26: your tax dollers are already paying for most defend They

1706
01:15:53,173 --> 01:15:55,053
Speaker 26: could be ripping you off and you would never know

1707
01:15:55,133 --> 01:15:57,572
Speaker 26: any better. Whereas when it's come from a back pocket,

1708
01:15:57,692 --> 01:16:00,293
Speaker 26: I think it's a perfectly reasonable thing to be like, hey,

1709
01:16:00,333 --> 01:16:03,013
Speaker 26: can I at least ask? Yeah, you know, if you

1710
01:16:03,173 --> 01:16:05,053
Speaker 26: ask and we can't do anything about it, we'll just

1711
01:16:05,133 --> 01:16:07,772
Speaker 26: say so and nobody's worse off or better off. But

1712
01:16:07,853 --> 01:16:09,772
Speaker 26: if we can, we will. You know, at the end

1713
01:16:09,772 --> 01:16:12,012
Speaker 26: of the day, I think at the moment, everybody agrees,

1714
01:16:12,452 --> 01:16:15,372
Speaker 26: it's just hard. You know, everything is expensive. People are

1715
01:16:15,452 --> 01:16:18,932
Speaker 26: really struggling through it, and dentistry has always been something

1716
01:16:18,973 --> 01:16:21,012
Speaker 26: which is a nice to have for too many kiwis,

1717
01:16:21,412 --> 01:16:24,412
Speaker 26: so asking for something better is absolutely fine. I mean,

1718
01:16:24,692 --> 01:16:27,253
Speaker 26: we tend to offer better deals if we're doing quite

1719
01:16:27,293 --> 01:16:29,812
Speaker 26: a lot of work, but for simple things it's a

1720
01:16:29,853 --> 01:16:32,652
Speaker 26: little bit harder. And the other thing I always try

1721
01:16:32,732 --> 01:16:35,173
Speaker 26: to kind of get across to our patients is we're

1722
01:16:35,213 --> 01:16:38,013
Speaker 26: in the service industry. You're not buying the same pair

1723
01:16:38,053 --> 01:16:40,053
Speaker 26: of shoes from two different shops, so you just take

1724
01:16:40,093 --> 01:16:42,412
Speaker 26: the cheaper off the two. You know, we are actually

1725
01:16:42,532 --> 01:16:44,933
Speaker 26: tailoring something which is a service as opposed to just

1726
01:16:45,013 --> 01:16:48,253
Speaker 26: a product with selling off the shelves. So sometimes negotiating

1727
01:16:48,452 --> 01:16:51,213
Speaker 26: and come across as a little bit insensitive, because if

1728
01:16:51,253 --> 01:16:53,932
Speaker 26: somebody is an expert in their field, has twenty years experience,

1729
01:16:54,213 --> 01:16:55,852
Speaker 26: they probably feel like their time is a bit more

1730
01:16:55,933 --> 01:16:58,013
Speaker 26: valuable than somebody else is beculse. They've done it so

1731
01:16:58,093 --> 01:16:59,572
Speaker 26: many more times and they're so much better at it.

1732
01:17:00,013 --> 01:17:03,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what about self industry. Do you support that

1733
01:17:03,812 --> 01:17:06,213
Speaker 2: at all? We had a guy before that to his

1734
01:17:06,293 --> 01:17:07,212
Speaker 2: teeth with pliers.

1735
01:17:08,412 --> 01:17:10,412
Speaker 26: Look, if more people could brush and floss every day

1736
01:17:10,452 --> 01:17:12,253
Speaker 26: as their self d industry as a minimum, M'd be.

1737
01:17:12,293 --> 01:17:12,892
Speaker 12: A big bloody.

1738
01:17:13,812 --> 01:17:15,732
Speaker 26: This is why I think that, This is why a

1739
01:17:15,772 --> 01:17:16,493
Speaker 26: bit adventurous.

1740
01:17:16,652 --> 01:17:16,893
Speaker 3: Do you know?

1741
01:17:17,013 --> 01:17:19,093
Speaker 2: This is why I think that ultimately dentists are good

1742
01:17:19,093 --> 01:17:21,812
Speaker 2: people and orthodontists because they always tell you to floss,

1743
01:17:21,853 --> 01:17:23,772
Speaker 2: and they always tell you brush your teeth, when they

1744
01:17:24,133 --> 01:17:26,852
Speaker 2: would have motivation to not tell you to do that

1745
01:17:27,093 --> 01:17:29,652
Speaker 2: because you know you're not flossing and you're not brushing.

1746
01:17:29,772 --> 01:17:32,133
Speaker 2: Is bringing more working but you never get that do

1747
01:17:32,532 --> 01:17:33,213
Speaker 2: they care about it.

1748
01:17:33,372 --> 01:17:35,132
Speaker 26: One of the things one of the things I always

1749
01:17:35,133 --> 01:17:36,612
Speaker 26: try and get across to our patients, and you know,

1750
01:17:36,732 --> 01:17:38,852
Speaker 26: we've got to practice that. Now twenty plus years old,

1751
01:17:38,893 --> 01:17:41,812
Speaker 26: we have a great patient base that comes back fairly routinely,

1752
01:17:41,893 --> 01:17:45,612
Speaker 26: is that it's actually beneficial for business. If people come

1753
01:17:45,692 --> 01:17:48,412
Speaker 26: in for fifteen twenty minutes, have nothing wrong, they pay

1754
01:17:48,452 --> 01:17:49,812
Speaker 26: one hundred bucks for a check up, and then they

1755
01:17:49,893 --> 01:17:52,612
Speaker 26: go home, it actually ends up costing us a lot

1756
01:17:52,732 --> 01:17:55,132
Speaker 26: less from an overheads point of view, and a healthy

1757
01:17:55,173 --> 01:17:58,213
Speaker 26: population is actually not that bad for business. When we

1758
01:17:58,372 --> 01:18:00,333
Speaker 26: kind of talk about brushing and flossing. It's like every

1759
01:18:00,452 --> 01:18:03,012
Speaker 26: doctor will tell you to lose weight and eat better

1760
01:18:03,173 --> 01:18:06,053
Speaker 26: and exercise and get fresh air and stop smoking. It's

1761
01:18:06,093 --> 01:18:08,572
Speaker 26: the same thing for us. We're not here to how

1762
01:18:08,692 --> 01:18:10,412
Speaker 26: make things difficult for you. We want the best for

1763
01:18:10,452 --> 01:18:13,372
Speaker 26: everybody else, like good overwhelmed in this country as professional

1764
01:18:13,532 --> 01:18:16,452
Speaker 26: like we're really suffering as KIV dentists because quevus are

1765
01:18:16,452 --> 01:18:17,932
Speaker 26: struggling to look after the mental health.

1766
01:18:18,013 --> 01:18:20,173
Speaker 2: We'll got the news coming and really really fast, so

1767
01:18:20,213 --> 01:18:22,293
Speaker 2: we're going to have to cut you off there. But

1768
01:18:22,372 --> 01:18:23,452
Speaker 2: what's what's your business?

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01:18:24,772 --> 01:18:26,933
Speaker 26: Dental boutique? Man, we're just on Jevois story. There's a

1770
01:18:26,933 --> 01:18:28,052
Speaker 26: not too drum up more business.

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01:18:28,093 --> 01:18:29,612
Speaker 2: I just got to give you the call you opoy,

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01:18:29,652 --> 01:18:30,492
Speaker 2: We really appreciate it.

1773
01:18:30,652 --> 01:18:34,292
Speaker 3: Brilliant Go check them out. Dental Boutique News is next.

1774
01:18:35,532 --> 01:18:40,172
Speaker 4: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

1775
01:18:40,253 --> 01:18:41,372
Speaker 4: in between and kids.

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01:18:41,492 --> 01:18:45,492
Speaker 5: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoon squid Goder News Talk

1777
01:18:45,572 --> 01:18:47,253
Speaker 5: said the six.

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01:18:47,133 --> 01:18:49,692
Speaker 3: Past three, welcome back into the show, Great Devy company.

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01:18:49,772 --> 01:18:54,053
Speaker 2: This afternoon, something really weird has happened and happened to

1780
01:18:54,173 --> 01:18:56,293
Speaker 2: me something hypnotic and it's happened to me and a

1781
01:18:56,333 --> 01:18:59,532
Speaker 2: lot of middle aged men around the world right judging

1782
01:18:59,652 --> 01:19:07,652
Speaker 2: by social media, and it's called zend Patreen beautiful Unzendapotreen

1783
01:19:07,772 --> 01:19:11,812
Speaker 2: beautiful Nunciation. There are French Canadian rock duo but they

1784
01:19:11,853 --> 01:19:17,412
Speaker 2: are insane. This is what they sound like. And they

1785
01:19:17,492 --> 01:19:21,572
Speaker 2: look like a surreal French horror circus act that they

1786
01:19:21,652 --> 01:19:24,532
Speaker 2: wear these polka dot costumes and they both have giant

1787
01:19:24,612 --> 01:19:28,612
Speaker 2: distorted noses, one that sits straight out, but the drummers

1788
01:19:29,372 --> 01:19:34,133
Speaker 2: flops back and forth with the beat. Yes, and the

1789
01:19:34,213 --> 01:19:37,092
Speaker 2: guitarist plays a guitar that's half bass, half six streen

1790
01:19:37,372 --> 01:19:46,612
Speaker 2: electrac and he wears an upside down pyramid hat and

1791
01:19:46,772 --> 01:19:48,612
Speaker 2: he loops all his parts, so he's got a loop.

1792
01:19:50,253 --> 01:19:56,132
Speaker 2: It's microtonal music. Yes, angin de Poitrine. They're like Batman

1793
01:19:56,253 --> 01:20:00,852
Speaker 2: Villains maybe meets Eyes Wide Shut or the Phantom of

1794
01:20:00,853 --> 01:20:05,372
Speaker 2: the Opera meets the Illuminati, but they absolutely rock. People

1795
01:20:05,412 --> 01:20:08,612
Speaker 2: are becoming transfixed by them. Yeah, it's like when the

1796
01:20:08,732 --> 01:20:12,052
Speaker 2: Joker takes over Gotham's TV channels and everyone was forced

1797
01:20:12,093 --> 01:20:15,372
Speaker 2: to tune in and just stares. There are thousands of

1798
01:20:15,492 --> 01:20:17,812
Speaker 2: means of men like me just steering through the screens

1799
01:20:17,812 --> 01:20:20,293
Speaker 2: watching them with comics like I tried to do some

1800
01:20:20,372 --> 01:20:24,412
Speaker 2: planning and got stuck. It's it's hypnotic. I've thought of

1801
01:20:24,572 --> 01:20:26,652
Speaker 2: nothing else since I saw them on Friday on Rick

1802
01:20:26,692 --> 01:20:29,772
Speaker 2: Piato's channel. I woke up this morning and the first

1803
01:20:29,812 --> 01:20:33,133
Speaker 2: thing I said to my lovely partner Tracy, involuntarily was

1804
01:20:33,812 --> 01:20:36,452
Speaker 2: unzen duping. That was the first thing I said when

1805
01:20:36,452 --> 01:20:39,013
Speaker 2: I woke up. Block them up for yourself. So it's

1806
01:20:39,013 --> 01:20:42,532
Speaker 2: about A n G I N E D E P

1807
01:20:42,812 --> 01:20:46,772
Speaker 2: O I t R I n E. This is highly dangerous.

1808
01:20:46,973 --> 01:20:50,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I started off this was very upsetting

1809
01:20:50,412 --> 01:20:52,253
Speaker 3: to my ears, and now all of a sudden, I

1810
01:20:52,412 --> 01:20:56,452
Speaker 3: just kind of feel myself getting into some kind of trance.

1811
01:20:56,612 --> 01:20:59,973
Speaker 2: Well, it's microtonality. So most Western music has built on

1812
01:21:00,053 --> 01:21:03,173
Speaker 2: twelve notes per octave right, so C C sharp, D

1813
01:21:03,772 --> 01:21:05,732
Speaker 2: E flat all the way through to B right. Yeah,

1814
01:21:06,093 --> 01:21:09,532
Speaker 2: so the octave octave plus the sharp as twelve notes.

1815
01:21:10,412 --> 01:21:14,452
Speaker 2: Microtonal music uses pictures in between those notes. For example,

1816
01:21:14,492 --> 01:21:16,412
Speaker 2: like if you play an A note, which would be

1817
01:21:16,412 --> 01:21:18,772
Speaker 2: four hundred and forty HRTs, so that's the sound waves

1818
01:21:18,853 --> 01:21:21,772
Speaker 2: vibrating four hundred and forty times, and a sharp is

1819
01:21:22,213 --> 01:21:25,213
Speaker 2: let's say four hundred and sixty six hurts. A microtone

1820
01:21:25,253 --> 01:21:28,293
Speaker 2: might sit in the middle at like four hundred and

1821
01:21:28,452 --> 01:21:30,492
Speaker 2: fifty three hurts or something right, And so those are

1822
01:21:30,532 --> 01:21:33,732
Speaker 2: the notes they are playing. So in a microtonal guitar,

1823
01:21:33,973 --> 01:21:36,133
Speaker 2: your standard octave, it might be split into twenty five

1824
01:21:36,213 --> 01:21:38,852
Speaker 2: instead of twelve, or it could be thirty one. It

1825
01:21:38,893 --> 01:21:40,973
Speaker 2: could be an infinite amount of notes if you want,

1826
01:21:41,013 --> 01:21:43,612
Speaker 2: instead of twelve. Yeah, so you can divide as much

1827
01:21:43,612 --> 01:21:46,692
Speaker 2: as want. So a microtonal guitar just has a lot

1828
01:21:46,772 --> 01:21:49,412
Speaker 2: more threats. I don't know what the music is insane.

1829
01:21:49,133 --> 01:21:50,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what it's doing to my brain.

1830
01:21:50,812 --> 01:21:52,293
Speaker 3: I don't know if I like it. I mean, my

1831
01:21:52,372 --> 01:21:55,613
Speaker 3: brain says it's very off putting and I feel uncomfortable.

1832
01:21:55,612 --> 01:21:57,452
Speaker 3: But I need more. And all of a sudden, the

1833
01:21:57,572 --> 01:21:59,852
Speaker 3: takes have come through. These guys go hard, have them

1834
01:21:59,893 --> 01:22:01,133
Speaker 3: cranking in the forklift today.

1835
01:22:01,333 --> 01:22:04,492
Speaker 2: Yeah. So you have this crazy microtonal music. Then you're

1836
01:22:04,492 --> 01:22:06,812
Speaker 2: adding the fact that they look like sixteenth century French

1837
01:22:06,893 --> 01:22:11,612
Speaker 2: operaenth century French offer a show or something, horror show.

1838
01:22:12,492 --> 01:22:16,612
Speaker 2: That's quite something. Yeah, it's hypnotizing. It's brain altering. Right,

1839
01:22:16,973 --> 01:22:22,333
Speaker 2: check them out, but beware, Unzen, be careful. They may

1840
01:22:22,412 --> 01:22:23,333
Speaker 2: take your brain from you.

1841
01:22:24,053 --> 01:22:24,812
Speaker 3: Oh I listen to that.

1842
01:22:26,772 --> 01:22:34,013
Speaker 27: Turn it up with a louder Andrews look it up,

1843
01:22:34,772 --> 01:22:38,013
Speaker 27: look it up, and you're like, oh god, Fan says, so,

1844
01:22:38,053 --> 01:22:38,612
Speaker 27: what's the name of the.

1845
01:22:38,652 --> 01:22:44,452
Speaker 2: Band again, Well, it's Unzendo Trine. Yeah, but I guess

1846
01:22:44,572 --> 01:22:47,452
Speaker 2: just look up a ng i in e because of

1847
01:22:47,532 --> 01:22:52,293
Speaker 2: course this is French. So yeah, Unzinoatrine. It's it's it's

1848
01:22:52,333 --> 01:22:55,053
Speaker 2: something like it has memorized me. It mesmerized me of

1849
01:22:55,173 --> 01:22:56,892
Speaker 2: the whole weekend in the last two days.

1850
01:22:56,933 --> 01:22:58,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just having to look at them now. Very

1851
01:22:58,412 --> 01:23:01,052
Speaker 3: uncanny valley. But I think I'm hooked now. It's dangerous,

1852
01:23:01,253 --> 01:23:02,452
Speaker 3: very dangerous. What do they want?

1853
01:23:02,612 --> 01:23:04,532
Speaker 2: I tuned my guitar up a half measure and I've

1854
01:23:04,532 --> 01:23:07,852
Speaker 2: been I put like a bag over my head and

1855
01:23:07,933 --> 01:23:11,452
Speaker 2: chase my around the house timer play some of these chains.

1856
01:23:11,652 --> 01:23:14,892
Speaker 3: That is good stuff, right, it is eleven pass three.

1857
01:23:15,452 --> 01:23:17,372
Speaker 3: Want to have a chat about the perfect pie. This

1858
01:23:17,452 --> 01:23:20,732
Speaker 3: is after Wellington Trady turned influencer Cosmos. He calls himself.

1859
01:23:20,772 --> 01:23:23,372
Speaker 3: He's built a following reviewing mince and cheese pies, even

1860
01:23:23,492 --> 01:23:25,812
Speaker 3: eating one daily as he searches for the best pie

1861
01:23:25,893 --> 01:23:28,333
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. And a chat with our entertainment reporter

1862
01:23:28,452 --> 01:23:31,013
Speaker 3: and our mate Mitchell Hageman, he shares simple rules for

1863
01:23:31,053 --> 01:23:33,652
Speaker 3: the perfect pie. One of the most controversial was skip

1864
01:23:33,732 --> 01:23:34,612
Speaker 3: the tomato sauce.

1865
01:23:35,293 --> 01:23:38,293
Speaker 2: I'm on board with this guy. I think that we're oversaurcing.

1866
01:23:38,572 --> 01:23:42,452
Speaker 2: We're oversourcing everything we do. We're oversaurce over soy, saucing

1867
01:23:42,492 --> 01:23:46,013
Speaker 2: our sushi, We're oversourcing our pies. You don't even need

1868
01:23:46,053 --> 01:23:48,372
Speaker 2: tomato saucing your fish and chips. All you're doing is

1869
01:23:48,412 --> 01:23:50,652
Speaker 2: eating the tomato sauce. You're not getting the flavor of

1870
01:23:50,732 --> 01:23:50,973
Speaker 2: the thing.

1871
01:23:51,253 --> 01:23:53,652
Speaker 3: We're a massive sauce nation, no doubt about it. Yeah,

1872
01:23:54,173 --> 01:23:56,173
Speaker 3: So taking your calls on that and your thoughts. Oh

1873
01:23:56,213 --> 01:23:57,452
Speaker 3: e one hundred and eighty ten eighty if you want

1874
01:23:57,452 --> 01:23:58,772
Speaker 3: to send a text nine two, nine to two. But

1875
01:23:58,853 --> 01:24:00,812
Speaker 3: coming up after the break, we're gonna have a chat

1876
01:24:00,853 --> 01:24:04,372
Speaker 3: to Cosmos himself. It is twelve past three us talk

1877
01:24:04,452 --> 01:24:07,372
Speaker 3: said be it is fourteen past three, so it makes

1878
01:24:07,452 --> 01:24:10,572
Speaker 3: the perfect pie? And are we oversaucing everything in this country?

1879
01:24:10,612 --> 01:24:14,093
Speaker 3: Well Wellington tradey turned influencer Cosmos. He has built a

1880
01:24:14,173 --> 01:24:17,412
Speaker 3: following reviewing mint and cheese pies, even eating one daily

1881
01:24:17,452 --> 01:24:19,253
Speaker 3: as he searches for the best in New Zealand. He

1882
01:24:19,293 --> 01:24:22,372
Speaker 3: shared his simple rules for the perfect pie, and Cosmos

1883
01:24:22,572 --> 01:24:25,732
Speaker 3: joins us. Now get a mates, Hey, how are you going?

1884
01:24:26,452 --> 01:24:29,213
Speaker 2: So what are those rules? Cosmo? Just run us through

1885
01:24:29,213 --> 01:24:29,692
Speaker 2: them quickly?

1886
01:24:30,652 --> 01:24:33,612
Speaker 28: Oh the rules, so you don't you don't eat your

1887
01:24:33,652 --> 01:24:37,092
Speaker 28: pie with a knife and fork and no tomato sauce.

1888
01:24:37,933 --> 01:24:40,692
Speaker 2: So talk us through the tomato sauce because people just

1889
01:24:40,853 --> 01:24:43,852
Speaker 2: absolutely cover pies with tomato sauce to go into the

1890
01:24:43,973 --> 01:24:46,812
Speaker 2: servo you squeeze one of those little ones on there.

1891
01:24:47,093 --> 01:24:48,213
Speaker 2: Why no tomato sauce.

1892
01:24:49,853 --> 01:24:52,173
Speaker 28: Well, for a good pie, you don't need tomato sauce.

1893
01:24:52,293 --> 01:24:55,492
Speaker 28: But that's why they probably put tomato sauce on a

1894
01:24:55,812 --> 01:24:56,892
Speaker 28: service station pie.

1895
01:24:57,452 --> 01:25:01,612
Speaker 2: Yeah right, hide the sins because exactly because pies in

1896
01:25:01,652 --> 01:25:03,532
Speaker 2: New Zealand used to be pretty rubbish, but they've got

1897
01:25:03,732 --> 01:25:06,213
Speaker 2: so much better, what with you know, the Supreme Pie

1898
01:25:06,213 --> 01:25:08,973
Speaker 2: Awards and stuff. So is it now just you know,

1899
01:25:09,053 --> 01:25:12,012
Speaker 2: it was there to cover the crimes of a servo pie,

1900
01:25:12,213 --> 01:25:14,053
Speaker 2: but now it's just disrespecting the art.

1901
01:25:15,253 --> 01:25:18,492
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think so, Well that's what that's my rules anyways.

1902
01:25:19,492 --> 01:25:23,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, so mate, have you come across or at this stage,

1903
01:25:23,293 --> 01:25:24,492
Speaker 3: And I know you're on a bit of a journey

1904
01:25:24,572 --> 01:25:26,213
Speaker 3: up and down the country, but at this stage, what

1905
01:25:26,372 --> 01:25:28,772
Speaker 3: is the single best mince and cheese pie you've had?

1906
01:25:30,133 --> 01:25:33,412
Speaker 28: Well, the best one so far is Daily Bread Wife

1907
01:25:33,532 --> 01:25:35,692
Speaker 28: or two. It's at the bottom of Winoi Hill, just

1908
01:25:35,772 --> 01:25:37,572
Speaker 28: before you go over the Winoi Hill.

1909
01:25:38,853 --> 01:25:40,133
Speaker 3: And what what made that a winner?

1910
01:25:41,532 --> 01:25:46,412
Speaker 28: It's just the pastry, the mince and gravy ratio, and

1911
01:25:47,093 --> 01:25:49,732
Speaker 28: the amounts of cheese, right, And everyone knows I like

1912
01:25:49,812 --> 01:25:52,253
Speaker 28: my cheese and the pies. So lots of bakeries are

1913
01:25:52,293 --> 01:25:54,932
Speaker 28: doing mince and double cheese now, so it's trending.

1914
01:25:56,612 --> 01:25:59,093
Speaker 2: So but you're you speaking of the pastry. You're a

1915
01:25:59,173 --> 01:26:00,213
Speaker 2: fan of a soggy bottom?

1916
01:26:00,333 --> 01:26:00,692
Speaker 17: Is that right?

1917
01:26:01,973 --> 01:26:05,732
Speaker 28: No, not soggy, but like softer bottom not so yeah,

1918
01:26:05,893 --> 01:26:08,772
Speaker 28: not the top needs to be nice and Chris, and

1919
01:26:08,853 --> 01:26:12,772
Speaker 28: the bottom nice soft bottom American.

1920
01:26:14,973 --> 01:26:17,293
Speaker 3: And would you say, because you've been obviously up and

1921
01:26:17,372 --> 01:26:19,612
Speaker 3: down the country, South Island, North Island, if you had

1922
01:26:19,612 --> 01:26:21,612
Speaker 3: to pick an island, who does it best? Surely it's

1923
01:26:21,652 --> 01:26:22,493
Speaker 3: a South Island.

1924
01:26:23,372 --> 01:26:24,612
Speaker 17: No way, no way.

1925
01:26:26,253 --> 01:26:27,933
Speaker 10: Well I haven't tried enough pies.

1926
01:26:27,692 --> 01:26:30,133
Speaker 28: In the South Island yet, right, but I am going

1927
01:26:30,213 --> 01:26:35,053
Speaker 28: to head down there eventually, but definitely North Island so far.

1928
01:26:35,732 --> 01:26:40,253
Speaker 2: What are your feelings on pies that you know? You know,

1929
01:26:40,372 --> 01:26:43,852
Speaker 2: innovative pies, you know, when you've got blue cheese, kumita,

1930
01:26:44,412 --> 01:26:49,213
Speaker 2: you've got chicken canon beer. You know, you see a

1931
01:26:49,253 --> 01:26:52,212
Speaker 2: pie and it's got a list of ten different ingredients.

1932
01:26:52,412 --> 01:26:53,133
Speaker 2: Are you a fan of that?

1933
01:26:54,213 --> 01:26:54,412
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1934
01:26:54,532 --> 01:26:57,692
Speaker 28: I like exotic pies. Saying different you know, of course,

1935
01:26:58,572 --> 01:26:59,492
Speaker 28: there's nothing wrong with it.

1936
01:27:00,492 --> 01:27:03,612
Speaker 3: We are speaking to Cosmos. He goes by his name online,

1937
01:27:03,933 --> 01:27:07,452
Speaker 3: but his real name is Petrie aspast Lucas. So what

1938
01:27:07,652 --> 01:27:10,293
Speaker 3: would you say is the most overrated pie you've had?

1939
01:27:12,213 --> 01:27:20,013
Speaker 28: Overrated pie? Oh, that's a hard one. Overrated pie, to

1940
01:27:20,133 --> 01:27:25,933
Speaker 28: be honest. I was in Umu the other day and

1941
01:27:26,093 --> 01:27:30,012
Speaker 28: Pram and those pies are overrated. Lots of people told

1942
01:27:30,053 --> 01:27:32,772
Speaker 28: me to go try them, and yeah, they didn't hit

1943
01:27:32,812 --> 01:27:33,213
Speaker 28: the spot.

1944
01:27:34,213 --> 01:27:36,053
Speaker 2: Just to take you back to another point on the

1945
01:27:36,173 --> 01:27:38,173
Speaker 2: knife and fork, why are you opposed to the knife

1946
01:27:38,213 --> 01:27:40,852
Speaker 2: and fork with the with the pie, Cosmos?

1947
01:27:41,812 --> 01:27:42,133
Speaker 26: I don't know.

1948
01:27:42,213 --> 01:27:44,012
Speaker 10: It's kind of like eating a pizza with a knife

1949
01:27:44,013 --> 01:27:47,732
Speaker 10: and fork. It just doesn't feel right eat it with

1950
01:27:47,812 --> 01:27:48,612
Speaker 10: your hands, all right?

1951
01:27:49,093 --> 01:27:51,133
Speaker 2: What about the family steak pie that you get like

1952
01:27:51,253 --> 01:27:53,732
Speaker 2: one of those. There are those big round pies that

1953
01:27:54,173 --> 01:27:56,492
Speaker 2: you get out of there that you can knife and

1954
01:27:56,532 --> 01:27:57,253
Speaker 2: fork those, can't you.

1955
01:27:59,093 --> 01:28:01,692
Speaker 10: I guess so yeah, I guess you have to on

1956
01:28:01,772 --> 01:28:02,492
Speaker 10: those onesday.

1957
01:28:02,853 --> 01:28:05,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about? And this is something I do often

1958
01:28:05,612 --> 01:28:07,692
Speaker 3: Cosmos when my pies, I take off the top of

1959
01:28:07,812 --> 01:28:10,732
Speaker 3: the pie, the pastory, and then I leave that right

1960
01:28:10,812 --> 01:28:12,612
Speaker 3: to the end. So I just take off the top

1961
01:28:12,652 --> 01:28:15,172
Speaker 3: of call it down because I like it kind of lukewarm.

1962
01:28:15,213 --> 01:28:16,932
Speaker 3: I don't like it too hot, and then start holing

1963
01:28:16,973 --> 01:28:19,132
Speaker 3: it down and then just a little bit of sauce

1964
01:28:19,213 --> 01:28:21,173
Speaker 3: right on the top of the pastry. And that's my

1965
01:28:21,372 --> 01:28:22,492
Speaker 3: kind of dessert right at the end.

1966
01:28:22,692 --> 01:28:23,213
Speaker 2: That's gross.

1967
01:28:24,213 --> 01:28:27,013
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think that's great too.

1968
01:28:27,173 --> 01:28:30,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need some help. Yeah, I mean the beauty

1969
01:28:30,612 --> 01:28:32,893
Speaker 2: of the pie is you can buy it, and you

1970
01:28:32,933 --> 01:28:34,812
Speaker 2: know that's that's why the sandwich was inmitted as well,

1971
01:28:34,973 --> 01:28:36,652
Speaker 2: so you can just operate.

1972
01:28:36,812 --> 01:28:37,852
Speaker 10: You don't take the top of it.

1973
01:28:38,173 --> 01:28:41,452
Speaker 3: It's self contained. Yeah, the engineering has already been done

1974
01:28:41,492 --> 01:28:43,852
Speaker 3: for me. You don't listening, you don't do it.

1975
01:28:44,293 --> 01:28:46,133
Speaker 2: You don't need to do an autopsy on your pie.

1976
01:28:46,732 --> 01:28:48,892
Speaker 2: Just shove it and you go all.

1977
01:28:49,772 --> 01:28:51,652
Speaker 28: My friend he used to eat the he used to

1978
01:28:51,692 --> 01:28:55,732
Speaker 28: buy a burger c from McDonald's, the top one first,

1979
01:28:55,853 --> 01:28:58,213
Speaker 28: then I would eat the petty and cheese, and then

1980
01:28:58,213 --> 01:28:59,253
Speaker 28: I would eat the bottom button.

1981
01:28:59,253 --> 01:29:00,932
Speaker 10: And I was like, I thought that was so weird.

1982
01:29:01,093 --> 01:29:02,372
Speaker 3: I like your mate, Yeah, we got on.

1983
01:29:02,452 --> 01:29:06,453
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm no fan of people that do autopsies

1984
01:29:06,492 --> 01:29:06,932
Speaker 2: on their food.

1985
01:29:07,013 --> 01:29:09,133
Speaker 3: Hey, Cosmos, thank you very very much. Even a chat

1986
01:29:09,173 --> 01:29:11,173
Speaker 3: with us, mate, and go well, you obviously got a

1987
01:29:11,253 --> 01:29:13,452
Speaker 3: hair g of a following online, so all the best

1988
01:29:13,532 --> 01:29:14,333
Speaker 3: with your journey.

1989
01:29:14,133 --> 01:29:15,812
Speaker 10: And we'll catch up, thank you very much.

1990
01:29:15,893 --> 01:29:17,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, when you find the ultimate pie in New Zealand,

1991
01:29:17,893 --> 01:29:18,812
Speaker 3: we'll catch up again soon.

1992
01:29:19,692 --> 01:29:23,252
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, that sounds good, perfect, Go well, that is Cosmos.

1993
01:29:23,333 --> 01:29:26,013
Speaker 3: That's the name that he goes by online, real name

1994
01:29:26,133 --> 01:29:30,253
Speaker 3: Petree posta locus In. Obviously a pie influencer. But taking

1995
01:29:30,293 --> 01:29:32,333
Speaker 3: your calls, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, what

1996
01:29:32,492 --> 01:29:36,092
Speaker 3: makes the perfect pie? And also the oversourcing in New Zealand?

1997
01:29:36,133 --> 01:29:38,173
Speaker 3: Do we oversource? Have we got a bit too crazy

1998
01:29:38,213 --> 01:29:40,492
Speaker 3: about the old watties Tomato sauce.

1999
01:29:40,572 --> 01:29:42,452
Speaker 2: I think source oversourcing is a problem.

2000
01:29:42,492 --> 01:29:42,612
Speaker 26: Here.

2001
01:29:42,652 --> 01:29:45,213
Speaker 2: You order a pizza and you've got a perfect good

2002
01:29:45,213 --> 01:29:49,692
Speaker 2: pizza and then someone's gone the barbecue swirl with a

2003
01:29:49,732 --> 01:29:53,852
Speaker 2: big swirl right through it. We're massively oversourcing. I think

2004
01:29:53,893 --> 01:29:56,612
Speaker 2: this is a huge problem. Like you'll get a burger

2005
01:29:57,133 --> 01:30:00,412
Speaker 2: at a restaurant and it's just just source piling out

2006
01:30:00,452 --> 01:30:04,172
Speaker 2: of it. Sauce needs to be used very very spare, sparingly.

2007
01:30:04,452 --> 01:30:06,812
Speaker 2: The sixis is lambshank pie. If you want to destroy

2008
01:30:06,893 --> 01:30:08,293
Speaker 2: your car, what do you mean by that, Donnie?

2009
01:30:08,412 --> 01:30:09,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need more context of there.

2010
01:30:09,732 --> 01:30:11,492
Speaker 2: How are you destroying your pie with the LANs lamb

2011
01:30:11,532 --> 01:30:14,333
Speaker 2: shank it's desdrawing your car with the lamb shank pie.

2012
01:30:14,532 --> 01:30:16,133
Speaker 2: I mean, has it still got the shank in there?

2013
01:30:16,173 --> 01:30:17,333
Speaker 2: It's still got the bone in the pie?

2014
01:30:17,572 --> 01:30:19,692
Speaker 3: Give us more. It is twenty one past three taking

2015
01:30:19,732 --> 01:30:21,692
Speaker 3: your calls on O wight undred and eighty ten eighty.

2016
01:30:25,492 --> 01:30:29,173
Speaker 1: Mad Heathan Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

2017
01:30:29,412 --> 01:30:31,093
Speaker 1: eighty on us talk ZB.

2018
01:30:31,133 --> 01:30:32,213
Speaker 3: Twenty three past three.

2019
01:30:32,412 --> 01:30:35,053
Speaker 2: Donny has come back and said, yes, there is the

2020
01:30:35,173 --> 01:30:38,492
Speaker 2: bone is still in the lamb shank pie. See that

2021
01:30:38,692 --> 01:30:39,333
Speaker 2: is dangerous.

2022
01:30:39,452 --> 01:30:41,932
Speaker 3: It is very dam dangerous because you want to if.

2023
01:30:41,853 --> 01:30:44,772
Speaker 2: You're driving, you want to just bite into the pie.

2024
01:30:45,213 --> 01:30:47,692
Speaker 2: You don't want to worry about a bone in there.

2025
01:30:48,333 --> 01:30:51,013
Speaker 2: That the most dangerous pie of all time was the

2026
01:30:51,772 --> 01:30:56,772
Speaker 2: Ponsonbee pies spinach and cheese. I would normally never have

2027
01:30:56,812 --> 01:30:59,452
Speaker 2: a vegetarian pie, but this is actually a very delicious pie. Okay,

2028
01:30:59,572 --> 01:31:01,333
Speaker 2: But if you're driving, you bit into it and it

2029
01:31:01,372 --> 01:31:05,532
Speaker 2: wouldn't immediately unleash one liter of boiling hot water down

2030
01:31:05,612 --> 01:31:06,372
Speaker 2: your chin in front.

2031
01:31:06,492 --> 01:31:07,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a massive problem.

2032
01:31:07,572 --> 01:31:10,132
Speaker 2: And immediately cause you to drive into oncoming traffic.

2033
01:31:10,213 --> 01:31:12,852
Speaker 3: Something about spinach that just retains that crazy heat. Get

2034
01:31:12,893 --> 01:31:13,612
Speaker 3: a Bernhard?

2035
01:31:14,692 --> 01:31:14,812
Speaker 17: Hi?

2036
01:31:15,013 --> 01:31:15,492
Speaker 12: How things?

2037
01:31:15,652 --> 01:31:18,732
Speaker 3: God? You want to talk about the perfect pie, Well.

2038
01:31:20,213 --> 01:31:25,133
Speaker 12: Every bakery thinks that make the perfect pine. And it

2039
01:31:25,173 --> 01:31:27,372
Speaker 12: doesn't matter who you work for, you always think that

2040
01:31:27,492 --> 01:31:32,772
Speaker 12: you're doing something really unique and something special. A pie

2041
01:31:32,933 --> 01:31:37,652
Speaker 12: is based around the pastry and then the filling, and

2042
01:31:37,812 --> 01:31:41,372
Speaker 12: so if the pastry is really really God, then the

2043
01:31:41,532 --> 01:31:46,772
Speaker 12: filling will always be God. And so you know, the

2044
01:31:46,973 --> 01:31:51,252
Speaker 12: best bakeries in New Zealand are making their own pastry.

2045
01:31:53,532 --> 01:31:58,773
Speaker 12: And that's where the difference between a bakery and a cafe.

2046
01:32:00,013 --> 01:32:00,053
Speaker 9: Is.

2047
01:32:00,652 --> 01:32:06,052
Speaker 12: A bakery will usually be making their own pastry from scratch,

2048
01:32:06,893 --> 01:32:10,972
Speaker 12: with their own formula whatever that is, and they usually

2049
01:32:11,452 --> 01:32:14,213
Speaker 12: tune that formula to the type of oven that they've got,

2050
01:32:15,772 --> 01:32:20,253
Speaker 12: and so then you get what is what I would say,

2051
01:32:20,853 --> 01:32:21,612
Speaker 12: a better pie.

2052
01:32:21,973 --> 01:32:26,492
Speaker 2: So you're saying that that one particular pastry recipe might

2053
01:32:26,612 --> 01:32:28,532
Speaker 2: not work between different ovens.

2054
01:32:29,492 --> 01:32:35,253
Speaker 12: No, wow, No, definitely not so. At the stone oven

2055
01:32:35,293 --> 01:32:41,892
Speaker 12: where I'm working, We've bought in these beautiful Maretti ovens,

2056
01:32:42,013 --> 01:32:46,212
Speaker 12: which is stone based, ye, and I've designed a pastry

2057
01:32:46,333 --> 01:32:48,132
Speaker 12: that suits those ovens.

2058
01:32:49,133 --> 01:32:52,772
Speaker 2: Right os, this is this isn't is it?

2059
01:32:53,173 --> 01:32:58,372
Speaker 12: Ticker? So these ovens bake really soft, so you end

2060
01:32:58,532 --> 01:33:01,812
Speaker 12: up with because the stone based, they hold a lot

2061
01:33:01,853 --> 01:33:06,772
Speaker 12: of moisture, and therefore the pastry that you end up

2062
01:33:06,853 --> 01:33:09,532
Speaker 12: getting in the pie that you end up getting is

2063
01:33:10,013 --> 01:33:12,852
Speaker 12: a lot moister than what you may get out of

2064
01:33:13,492 --> 01:33:16,012
Speaker 12: a fan force stave or a fan oven.

2065
01:33:16,532 --> 01:33:20,692
Speaker 2: Right man, that's so technical with pastry you want.

2066
01:33:20,732 --> 01:33:24,852
Speaker 12: You've got it, You've got to work with the equipment

2067
01:33:24,973 --> 01:33:30,293
Speaker 12: you've got. It's not just about making a pastry throwing

2068
01:33:30,333 --> 01:33:32,893
Speaker 12: it in another You've actually got to work with the

2069
01:33:33,013 --> 01:33:36,053
Speaker 12: gear that you've got and you've been delivered with, and

2070
01:33:36,133 --> 01:33:37,933
Speaker 12: then you make the pastry to do that.

2071
01:33:38,853 --> 01:33:41,772
Speaker 2: Right, And when you say the perfect pastry, because sometimes

2072
01:33:41,812 --> 01:33:44,333
Speaker 2: you can have delicious pastry, but it doesn't work to

2073
01:33:44,412 --> 01:33:47,973
Speaker 2: hold the pie together. It could be too flaky or

2074
01:33:48,053 --> 01:33:49,732
Speaker 2: the bottom falls out of it. So it's got to

2075
01:33:49,812 --> 01:33:52,173
Speaker 2: be delicious but functional. Is that correct?

2076
01:33:53,013 --> 01:33:56,213
Speaker 12: Yeah? Exactly. And you know I always say that a

2077
01:33:56,333 --> 01:33:59,333
Speaker 12: pie you've got to be able to eat while you're driving. Yes,

2078
01:34:01,053 --> 01:34:06,892
Speaker 12: Now the police won't like that, and the truck drivers,

2079
01:34:06,973 --> 01:34:08,932
Speaker 12: but you asked the truck driver is what the truck

2080
01:34:09,013 --> 01:34:10,852
Speaker 12: drivers want to be able to do is pull into

2081
01:34:10,933 --> 01:34:15,012
Speaker 12: a bakery, buy two pies, pull out of the bakery,

2082
01:34:15,253 --> 01:34:16,892
Speaker 12: and eat the pies as they drive.

2083
01:34:17,053 --> 01:34:17,412
Speaker 3: Spot on.

2084
01:34:18,013 --> 01:34:20,812
Speaker 2: Do you think in that regard that you know I

2085
01:34:20,933 --> 01:34:23,692
Speaker 2: was saying before about a particular spinach and cheese pie

2086
01:34:23,732 --> 01:34:25,852
Speaker 2: that used to unleash a lot of boiling water down

2087
01:34:25,893 --> 01:34:29,172
Speaker 2: your face. Is it important that the pastry is robust,

2088
01:34:29,293 --> 01:34:33,532
Speaker 2: but also that the filling holds together to a certain extent.

2089
01:34:34,452 --> 01:34:34,612
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2090
01:34:34,692 --> 01:34:37,892
Speaker 12: Yeah, So we talk about having a one hand filling,

2091
01:34:40,133 --> 01:34:44,253
Speaker 12: the one hand filling, which means that basically, when you

2092
01:34:44,853 --> 01:34:47,892
Speaker 12: can hold the pie with one hand and you can

2093
01:34:47,973 --> 01:34:52,172
Speaker 12: eat the pie without the filling coming out being spilling

2094
01:34:52,213 --> 01:34:55,812
Speaker 12: all over your lap or you know. And it's also

2095
01:34:55,933 --> 01:35:00,293
Speaker 12: important that the pastry isn't too flaky, because if you're

2096
01:35:00,492 --> 01:35:03,053
Speaker 12: driving a Ferrari, you don't want to fill your car

2097
01:35:03,253 --> 01:35:05,812
Speaker 12: with pieces of flaky pastry.

2098
01:35:06,933 --> 01:35:07,492
Speaker 3: Don't want to do that.

2099
01:35:07,572 --> 01:35:12,412
Speaker 2: And you've got a partner like mine who questions a

2100
01:35:12,452 --> 01:35:15,053
Speaker 2: lot of you my eating in the car and I

2101
01:35:15,173 --> 01:35:17,733
Speaker 2: come home and there's flakes all over my jumper.

2102
01:35:17,612 --> 01:35:19,532
Speaker 3: Yep, she's like you were, Yeah, you want to get

2103
01:35:19,612 --> 01:35:20,213
Speaker 3: rid of the evidence.

2104
01:35:20,333 --> 01:35:21,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you want about to get it down you

2105
01:35:21,812 --> 01:35:25,733
Speaker 2: without any evidence. How do you feel when you're calibrating

2106
01:35:25,772 --> 01:35:30,213
Speaker 2: an oven such that it makes the perfect pastry, You're

2107
01:35:30,213 --> 01:35:32,012
Speaker 2: thinking about the filling. What do you think about people

2108
01:35:32,133 --> 01:35:34,412
Speaker 2: just smato saucer over the top of it.

2109
01:35:36,853 --> 01:35:39,333
Speaker 12: The only reason that you need to use tomato sauce

2110
01:35:39,452 --> 01:35:43,172
Speaker 12: is a really bad pie. Yes, And in New Zealand,

2111
01:35:43,732 --> 01:35:48,852
Speaker 12: I need a lot of pies from the likes of

2112
01:35:49,213 --> 01:35:55,253
Speaker 12: four Square and New World and BP because I'm baking

2113
01:35:55,372 --> 01:35:58,293
Speaker 12: a lot of pies yep. And so like what I

2114
01:35:58,452 --> 01:36:00,852
Speaker 12: like to do is go out there and try all

2115
01:36:00,933 --> 01:36:04,333
Speaker 12: the different pies. And what I've discovered over the last

2116
01:36:04,412 --> 01:36:07,333
Speaker 12: few years is that the pies in New Zealand have

2117
01:36:07,452 --> 01:36:11,933
Speaker 12: got better. And yes, and now you know you go

2118
01:36:12,173 --> 01:36:18,093
Speaker 12: to service stations and the pies are actually really really good.

2119
01:36:18,333 --> 01:36:20,333
Speaker 2: Yeah do you think did you think the Bakeel Supreme

2120
01:36:20,372 --> 01:36:22,412
Speaker 2: Pie Awards has something to do with that? That level

2121
01:36:22,452 --> 01:36:25,253
Speaker 2: of competition has raised all boats?

2122
01:36:26,412 --> 01:36:30,132
Speaker 12: No, not really, because my problem with the Bachel's suprem

2123
01:36:30,333 --> 01:36:37,932
Speaker 12: Pie Awards is that the bakeries that are really really

2124
01:36:38,053 --> 01:36:39,692
Speaker 12: busy don't enter.

2125
01:36:40,812 --> 01:36:41,012
Speaker 19: Right.

2126
01:36:41,572 --> 01:36:45,532
Speaker 12: So, like I'm making at the moment, I'm making twelve

2127
01:36:45,612 --> 01:36:49,772
Speaker 12: hundred pies a week to the pie Warmer Wow in

2128
01:36:49,933 --> 01:36:54,612
Speaker 12: Hope Kata. Yeah wow, we're only just keeping up.

2129
01:36:54,893 --> 01:36:55,093
Speaker 6: Wow.

2130
01:36:55,173 --> 01:36:57,852
Speaker 12: Now when you think of hopk Ticket's only got a

2131
01:36:57,933 --> 01:37:02,173
Speaker 12: population of three and a half thousand people, a lot

2132
01:37:02,213 --> 01:37:02,532
Speaker 12: of people.

2133
01:37:02,532 --> 01:37:03,973
Speaker 2: We've got a lot of repeat business and a lot

2134
01:37:04,013 --> 01:37:05,133
Speaker 2: of the down eating your pies.

2135
01:37:06,253 --> 01:37:11,652
Speaker 12: That's a lot of pies. So I don't have time, yeah,

2136
01:37:13,812 --> 01:37:21,333
Speaker 12: into trying to enter a pie competition. And plus the

2137
01:37:21,452 --> 01:37:22,812
Speaker 12: worst thing that could happen.

2138
01:37:22,652 --> 01:37:26,092
Speaker 6: To me is the if I won it on the rush,

2139
01:37:27,412 --> 01:37:31,693
Speaker 6: then what do you do you have to make stand.

2140
01:37:33,013 --> 01:37:36,612
Speaker 12: When everybody comes to your bakery, when say you get

2141
01:37:36,692 --> 01:37:40,452
Speaker 12: a thirty or fifty percent increase in production, how do

2142
01:37:40,492 --> 01:37:41,532
Speaker 12: you actually manage that?

2143
01:37:42,293 --> 01:37:44,812
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, hey, thank you so much for you calling

2144
01:37:44,933 --> 01:37:48,452
Speaker 2: Stone Oven Bakery, Hokitika. Well, I mean you've just said

2145
01:37:48,452 --> 01:37:49,812
Speaker 2: that you don't need any more business, so.

2146
01:37:50,213 --> 01:37:52,612
Speaker 3: It could be if there could be something going your way. Bernard.

2147
01:37:53,933 --> 01:37:56,692
Speaker 12: I love to see people come in and if they

2148
01:37:56,772 --> 01:38:00,133
Speaker 12: ask for me by name, I'll show them on the back,

2149
01:38:00,173 --> 01:38:03,012
Speaker 12: I'll show them what we do and you know it's

2150
01:38:03,293 --> 01:38:03,932
Speaker 12: it's all good.

2151
01:38:04,173 --> 01:38:04,572
Speaker 6: Oh cool.

2152
01:38:04,572 --> 01:38:07,573
Speaker 2: We'll go and say lad to Bernard at Stone Oven Bakery, Hokitika.

2153
01:38:07,732 --> 01:38:09,892
Speaker 3: What a great op ration. Thank you very much, Bernardo.

2154
01:38:09,933 --> 01:38:11,692
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty to what makes the

2155
01:38:11,732 --> 01:38:13,652
Speaker 3: perfect pie? And do we need to break up with

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01:38:13,772 --> 01:38:17,612
Speaker 3: our addiction to tomato saucer? We oversourcing everything? Nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: two is the text number. It is twenty nine to four.

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Speaker 13: Back now to Matt Heathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lena. We're talking about what

2178
01:39:37,572 --> 01:39:40,132
Speaker 3: makes the perfect pie, but also the amounts of sourcing

2179
01:39:40,213 --> 01:39:42,133
Speaker 3: that we do on our pies and other food with

2180
01:39:42,253 --> 01:39:44,572
Speaker 3: too much source, too much sauce, soa sauce again.

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01:39:46,213 --> 01:39:48,972
Speaker 2: We're a bunch of self sources chaps re eating pies

2182
01:39:49,013 --> 01:39:51,652
Speaker 2: while driving. I'm a firm believer that no self respecting

2183
01:39:51,732 --> 01:39:53,412
Speaker 2: key we should be able to get a driver's license.

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01:39:53,452 --> 01:39:55,612
Speaker 2: This he or she can steer with their knees, eat

2185
01:39:55,652 --> 01:39:57,572
Speaker 2: a pie. Talk on the phone and change gears at

2186
01:39:57,612 --> 01:40:01,013
Speaker 2: the same time. Just say yeah, I'd support people. You

2187
01:40:01,213 --> 01:40:03,532
Speaker 2: know the last you know, when you're seeing you restricted

2188
01:40:03,612 --> 01:40:05,213
Speaker 2: that you have to do the whole thing whilst eating

2189
01:40:05,253 --> 01:40:05,572
Speaker 2: a pie.

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01:40:05,692 --> 01:40:07,572
Speaker 3: Yep, get that down to the AA right now. That

2191
01:40:07,692 --> 01:40:08,213
Speaker 3: sounds fair.

2192
01:40:09,372 --> 01:40:12,132
Speaker 2: Chris. You want to talk about sauce on pies.

2193
01:40:13,372 --> 01:40:18,053
Speaker 21: Yes, for me, tomato sauce on a bakery pie is

2194
01:40:18,093 --> 01:40:23,692
Speaker 21: an abomination, but on a crap supermarket one before it

2195
01:40:23,812 --> 01:40:28,253
Speaker 21: has because you've got to sort of disguise the craptness

2196
01:40:28,293 --> 01:40:33,572
Speaker 21: of it. I've heard previous callers talking about how our

2197
01:40:33,652 --> 01:40:38,253
Speaker 21: petrol station pies have, like back in New Zeone, increased

2198
01:40:38,372 --> 01:40:43,052
Speaker 21: in quality. I got a pie from a BP about

2199
01:40:43,093 --> 01:40:45,173
Speaker 21: three or four years ago and it was probably the

2200
01:40:45,253 --> 01:40:46,613
Speaker 21: best pie eve even.

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01:40:47,452 --> 01:40:48,452
Speaker 7: And I've got.

2202
01:40:50,173 --> 01:40:51,732
Speaker 2: What time of daily are you eating that pie?

2203
01:40:53,412 --> 01:40:55,333
Speaker 21: Well, it wasn't at midnight when they've been there for

2204
01:40:55,452 --> 01:40:56,092
Speaker 21: six hours.

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01:40:58,253 --> 01:40:58,452
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:40:59,412 --> 01:41:01,892
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes when you get that pie, really a figs

2207
01:41:01,933 --> 01:41:04,372
Speaker 2: out Delsh it it is if you're walking home after

2208
01:41:04,452 --> 01:41:06,133
Speaker 2: a big night out the pub. Sometimes you have a

2209
01:41:06,213 --> 01:41:07,852
Speaker 2: pie and it's just the greatest thing. Ever.

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01:41:10,213 --> 01:41:16,052
Speaker 21: Like you said, the difference between a super archy chosen

2211
01:41:16,293 --> 01:41:18,452
Speaker 21: during the day and having a kebab at night time.

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01:41:19,893 --> 01:41:21,572
Speaker 3: Nothing like a two am super archy.

2213
01:41:21,853 --> 01:41:23,892
Speaker 2: I think also that suber larkis have got too much

2214
01:41:23,893 --> 01:41:26,012
Speaker 2: sauce in them. I think you get a super larky

2215
01:41:26,053 --> 01:41:27,932
Speaker 2: and it's like dripping out with yogurt sauce.

2216
01:41:30,293 --> 01:41:33,213
Speaker 21: But yeah, yeah, pies, you're like. You treat the ones

2217
01:41:33,253 --> 01:41:36,333
Speaker 21: that have been homemade by the local business with respect,

2218
01:41:37,013 --> 01:41:39,772
Speaker 21: and you treat the supermarket ones how they shall be treated.

2219
01:41:40,173 --> 01:41:42,812
Speaker 2: It's like if you're around it's a matees house for dinner,

2220
01:41:43,253 --> 01:41:45,133
Speaker 2: or like your mum made your dinner and made it.

2221
01:41:45,213 --> 01:41:47,253
Speaker 2: Spend a lot of time preparing a meal and she

2222
01:41:47,333 --> 01:41:48,532
Speaker 2: put it in front of you and then you get

2223
01:41:48,572 --> 01:41:53,013
Speaker 2: the sauce and go. It's it's disportunal to how much

2224
01:41:53,053 --> 01:41:55,253
Speaker 2: time someone spent into it's put into it. So one

2225
01:41:55,293 --> 01:41:58,452
Speaker 2: of these fancy bakery pie, someone's put a lot of

2226
01:41:58,492 --> 01:42:00,293
Speaker 2: time into it, so that doesn't need the sauce. One

2227
01:42:00,572 --> 01:42:03,732
Speaker 2: a pie that's been mass produced not so much. You

2228
01:42:03,772 --> 01:42:05,692
Speaker 2: can source it up. I totally agree with you, Christ,

2229
01:42:05,732 --> 01:42:06,293
Speaker 2: Thanks you cool.

2230
01:42:06,333 --> 01:42:08,053
Speaker 3: It's artwork when it comes from a bakery. But I

2231
01:42:08,093 --> 01:42:10,772
Speaker 3: got to say the supermarket pies that Chris mentions they

2232
01:42:10,772 --> 01:42:14,053
Speaker 3: are the worst. I'd take a soggy, sweaty one that's

2233
01:42:14,053 --> 01:42:16,133
Speaker 3: been in the pie warmer for about seven hours over

2234
01:42:16,173 --> 01:42:18,253
Speaker 3: the supermarket pie any day of the week. They're always

2235
01:42:18,293 --> 01:42:21,173
Speaker 3: crusty overcook them. I don't know. I mean, maybe they've

2236
01:42:21,253 --> 01:42:23,893
Speaker 3: just been in there for several days before someone like

2237
01:42:23,973 --> 01:42:26,013
Speaker 3: me picks them up, but they are horrendous. Oh eight,

2238
01:42:26,013 --> 01:42:28,253
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

2239
01:42:28,372 --> 01:42:28,452
Speaker 9: Hi?

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01:42:28,572 --> 01:42:30,852
Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler, says Kitty. I had a boyfriend who

2241
01:42:30,893 --> 01:42:34,532
Speaker 2: put tomato sauce on everything, fried rice, a roast. My

2242
01:42:34,612 --> 01:42:36,812
Speaker 2: dad wrote him a poem. I can only remember a bit.

2243
01:42:36,853 --> 01:42:39,492
Speaker 2: Tomato sauce, Tomato sauce, tomatoes, the sauce. I love the

2244
01:42:39,572 --> 01:42:42,692
Speaker 2: best tomato sauce. Tomato sauce you can stuff the bloody rest.

2245
01:42:43,013 --> 01:42:44,692
Speaker 2: I love it on my sausages, I love it on

2246
01:42:44,772 --> 01:42:46,933
Speaker 2: my bread. I even like a little drink before I

2247
01:42:47,013 --> 01:42:47,852
Speaker 2: go to beer cheese.

2248
01:42:47,893 --> 01:42:48,133
Speaker 8: Cut it.

2249
01:42:49,612 --> 01:42:50,892
Speaker 3: Oh, your dad's a genius.

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01:42:51,093 --> 01:42:51,452
Speaker 21: One of my.

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01:42:51,532 --> 01:42:56,293
Speaker 2: Sisters had this boyfriend called Matt, and he and my

2252
01:42:56,492 --> 01:42:59,772
Speaker 2: mum was really anti tomato sauce on You could have

2253
01:42:59,893 --> 01:43:02,692
Speaker 2: it on fish and chips, but you couldn't have it

2254
01:43:02,732 --> 01:43:03,972
Speaker 2: at the table right with anything.

2255
01:43:04,133 --> 01:43:05,333
Speaker 3: Sweap on the face to her cooking.

2256
01:43:05,532 --> 01:43:08,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and this guy, Matt, it was this stay

2257
01:43:08,692 --> 01:43:11,452
Speaker 2: around the table. He just I kind of set him

2258
01:43:11,492 --> 01:43:14,652
Speaker 2: up on this anyway. But anyway, he just covered his

2259
01:43:14,772 --> 01:43:17,293
Speaker 2: meal and tomato sauce. And I just saw the daggers

2260
01:43:17,333 --> 01:43:19,452
Speaker 2: from my mum and dad looking at him. And he

2261
01:43:19,532 --> 01:43:22,652
Speaker 2: was he was doomed from that day. The relationship was doomed.

2262
01:43:22,812 --> 01:43:24,013
Speaker 3: But what do you mean you set him up? You

2263
01:43:24,133 --> 01:43:26,532
Speaker 3: just you take a seat, mate, Hey, do you like

2264
01:43:26,612 --> 01:43:28,852
Speaker 3: tomato sauce. He's a nice bottle for you. Make sure

2265
01:43:28,853 --> 01:43:30,253
Speaker 3: you drowning how.

2266
01:43:30,253 --> 01:43:33,293
Speaker 2: Much my parents didn't like the disrespects of tomato sauce.

2267
01:43:33,293 --> 01:43:35,293
Speaker 2: So I said to Matt, get can you go and

2268
01:43:35,293 --> 01:43:37,732
Speaker 2: get the tomato sauce from there? From the fridge? Mate,

2269
01:43:38,492 --> 01:43:39,812
Speaker 2: you gonna get the tomato sauce from.

2270
01:43:39,652 --> 01:43:41,532
Speaker 3: The fourld man. He was your namesake as well.

2271
01:43:41,572 --> 01:43:44,372
Speaker 2: He didn't a chance, He didn't have to it all

2272
01:43:44,452 --> 01:43:45,972
Speaker 2: over the bloody dinner.

2273
01:43:46,133 --> 01:43:49,452
Speaker 3: That was the last of that guy. You know, Craig,

2274
01:43:49,572 --> 01:43:50,213
Speaker 3: How are you, mate?

2275
01:43:51,452 --> 01:43:51,652
Speaker 24: Yeah?

2276
01:43:51,732 --> 01:43:54,972
Speaker 8: Good, tyler. You probably desume a slap boat for taking

2277
01:43:55,213 --> 01:43:55,612
Speaker 8: top off.

2278
01:43:57,372 --> 01:43:59,372
Speaker 3: To try that in your life, mate, try it will

2279
01:43:59,412 --> 01:44:00,012
Speaker 3: change your life.

2280
01:44:00,973 --> 01:44:03,453
Speaker 2: Food autops for a reason.

2281
01:44:07,532 --> 01:44:08,093
Speaker 24: Yeah, we've got to.

2282
01:44:08,732 --> 01:44:11,812
Speaker 8: I'm quite fortunate. I've got a job bakeries and test

2283
01:44:11,853 --> 01:44:16,412
Speaker 8: a lot of pies. I visit bakeries yea every day.

2284
01:44:18,412 --> 01:44:21,013
Speaker 8: The art to making a great pie is to have

2285
01:44:22,572 --> 01:44:27,892
Speaker 8: extremely good bottom pastries or short pastry which basically holds

2286
01:44:27,933 --> 01:44:32,012
Speaker 8: your meat in together, and then having a beautiful flaky

2287
01:44:32,053 --> 01:44:32,892
Speaker 8: pastry on top.

2288
01:44:33,893 --> 01:44:34,972
Speaker 6: Right, And I think.

2289
01:44:36,372 --> 01:44:39,412
Speaker 8: I'll give the opposition a plug and say the Batal

2290
01:44:39,572 --> 01:44:44,532
Speaker 8: Supreme Pie Awards. Actually, like I'll be maybe my first

2291
01:44:44,572 --> 01:44:48,532
Speaker 8: pie probably in nineteen eighty nine, been doing it ever since.

2292
01:44:50,572 --> 01:44:53,532
Speaker 8: So here's a few hundred thousand under the belt. Tasted

2293
01:44:53,692 --> 01:44:59,612
Speaker 8: quite a few toobs around as well. But yeah, the

2294
01:44:59,692 --> 01:45:03,173
Speaker 8: standard of pies in New Zelling is probably second to none.

2295
01:45:03,333 --> 01:45:07,532
Speaker 8: You won't find half as many decent pies in Australia

2296
01:45:07,532 --> 01:45:08,293
Speaker 8: as you're doing your Zell.

2297
01:45:08,812 --> 01:45:12,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone recall it. Someone texted before that in an

2298
01:45:12,893 --> 01:45:16,933
Speaker 2: Australian pie competition, someone defrosted a Kiwi pie, entered it

2299
01:45:16,973 --> 01:45:19,013
Speaker 2: and got third. I think that says a lot.

2300
01:45:19,173 --> 01:45:21,173
Speaker 3: That makes you browed, that makes you brown.

2301
01:45:21,452 --> 01:45:23,932
Speaker 2: So are you saying, Craig that there's different there's different pastries.

2302
01:45:23,973 --> 01:45:25,852
Speaker 2: It's a different type of pastry around the side than

2303
01:45:25,893 --> 01:45:26,612
Speaker 2: it is on the top.

2304
01:45:27,933 --> 01:45:30,892
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, right, bottom is totally different to your top.

2305
01:45:31,492 --> 01:45:35,652
Speaker 8: Your bottom generally is shorten it so you're basically surrounding

2306
01:45:35,692 --> 01:45:39,973
Speaker 8: the flower particles and layers of fat. So just you

2307
01:45:40,133 --> 01:45:43,013
Speaker 8: just bite through it, you know, it just chews, well,

2308
01:45:43,293 --> 01:45:44,012
Speaker 8: there's no chew.

2309
01:45:44,933 --> 01:45:47,372
Speaker 3: Can you help me out? Cray When it comes to

2310
01:45:47,532 --> 01:45:50,133
Speaker 3: missus Max Pies and I don't know what their pastry is,

2311
01:45:50,213 --> 01:45:53,333
Speaker 3: but it's like chewing through dry wall. It must be

2312
01:45:53,372 --> 01:45:55,012
Speaker 3: a different type of pastry. Do you know the answer

2313
01:45:55,053 --> 01:45:55,213
Speaker 3: to that?

2314
01:45:58,253 --> 01:46:01,652
Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll mass produce stuff like that doesn't or they

2315
01:46:02,013 --> 01:46:05,333
Speaker 8: try and manipulate stuff by cutting short on ingredients and

2316
01:46:05,412 --> 01:46:08,492
Speaker 8: that you've got to have a right amount or did

2317
01:46:08,532 --> 01:46:12,173
Speaker 8: your fat to flower ratio and which is totally different

2318
01:46:12,412 --> 01:46:15,253
Speaker 8: from your bottom pastry which is usually around twenty five

2319
01:46:16,452 --> 01:46:19,652
Speaker 8: to flower ratio, whereas your top you're sort of looking

2320
01:46:19,732 --> 01:46:22,093
Speaker 8: more fifty to sixty percent. When you get your puff

2321
01:46:22,173 --> 01:46:25,333
Speaker 8: in your flaking, like you summed it up before and

2322
01:46:25,452 --> 01:46:29,372
Speaker 8: saying it's an art form, you get that puff basically

2323
01:46:29,893 --> 01:46:34,972
Speaker 8: you're layering layers of dough fat, dough fat, and that's

2324
01:46:35,412 --> 01:46:39,013
Speaker 8: when the fat melts in the oven that pushes up

2325
01:46:39,093 --> 01:46:42,093
Speaker 8: the dope. That's where you get your puff in your layers, and.

2326
01:46:42,093 --> 01:46:44,812
Speaker 2: Then you get perverts. Craig like Tyler who rock up,

2327
01:46:45,133 --> 01:46:46,972
Speaker 2: do an autopsy on the pie. Took the leg off,

2328
01:46:47,053 --> 01:46:50,253
Speaker 2: put sauce inside, put the lid back on, wait till

2329
01:46:50,293 --> 01:46:52,173
Speaker 2: it's lukewarm, and.

2330
01:46:52,293 --> 01:46:57,133
Speaker 3: Then form the pie works for me, Craig, don't work

2331
01:46:57,173 --> 01:46:59,133
Speaker 3: for the pie. It does what I ask you today.

2332
01:47:00,772 --> 01:47:03,333
Speaker 8: You've got to have the combination of all those flavors,

2333
01:47:03,412 --> 01:47:06,532
Speaker 8: the filling, the bottom, and top all in one mouthful.

2334
01:47:06,853 --> 01:47:10,452
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Well, good on you, Craig, and and best

2335
01:47:10,572 --> 01:47:12,732
Speaker 2: luck out there in the world of pies. We really

2336
01:47:12,933 --> 01:47:16,092
Speaker 2: really appreciate your call. I'm a big fan of Jimmy's

2337
01:47:16,093 --> 01:47:17,772
Speaker 2: Pie is out of Roxburgh, right.

2338
01:47:17,772 --> 01:47:18,772
Speaker 3: Not bad if Jimmy.

2339
01:47:18,893 --> 01:47:19,013
Speaker 21: Yep.

2340
01:47:19,053 --> 01:47:20,412
Speaker 3: I've had a good B and E from Jimmy's.

2341
01:47:20,452 --> 01:47:23,492
Speaker 2: But I feel like Jimmy, I'm not sure if he's

2342
01:47:23,492 --> 01:47:25,612
Speaker 2: still with us. I think those pies have been around

2343
01:47:25,652 --> 01:47:28,612
Speaker 2: since the sixties, but Jimmy was a big fan of

2344
01:47:28,732 --> 01:47:31,132
Speaker 2: That's that's the flakiest pastry you get on a pie anywhere,

2345
01:47:31,173 --> 01:47:33,972
Speaker 2: and you know that'll get all over your front. Yeah,

2346
01:47:34,013 --> 01:47:35,932
Speaker 2: a lot of evidence left behind if you shouldn't be eating,

2347
01:47:35,973 --> 01:47:38,333
Speaker 2: but they're a good mass produced pie. Yeah, beautiful, Jimmy,

2348
01:47:38,372 --> 01:47:40,732
Speaker 2: So eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to

2349
01:47:40,772 --> 01:47:43,213
Speaker 2: call what makes a great pie? And when it comes

2350
01:47:43,293 --> 01:47:46,492
Speaker 2: to saucing, are you anti sauce or pro sauce? Nineteen

2351
01:47:46,612 --> 01:47:49,692
Speaker 2: ninety two is the text number? Is well, it is

2352
01:47:49,812 --> 01:47:52,412
Speaker 2: seventeen to four. Beg fory surely just a habit.

2353
01:47:52,253 --> 01:47:55,372
Speaker 1: Chat with Matt and Tyler on eight hundred eighty eight

2354
01:47:55,532 --> 01:47:58,133
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

2355
01:47:57,732 --> 01:48:00,612
Speaker 6: With Skoda Can you crank the scoder? Code us dog

2356
01:48:00,692 --> 01:48:00,973
Speaker 6: z'd be?

2357
01:48:01,612 --> 01:48:03,253
Speaker 3: It is a quarter to four. We're talking about what

2358
01:48:03,372 --> 01:48:06,932
Speaker 3: makes the perfect pie? And are we a little bit sauced? Crazy?

2359
01:48:07,013 --> 01:48:08,652
Speaker 3: In New Zealand O eight hundred and eighty in eighty

2360
01:48:08,772 --> 01:48:10,253
Speaker 3: nineteen nine two is the text number.

2361
01:48:10,372 --> 01:48:12,492
Speaker 2: Hey guys. The Silverdale company that sell the pies to

2362
01:48:12,572 --> 01:48:15,412
Speaker 2: BP supplied BP Australia with pies. They sell twenty million

2363
01:48:15,452 --> 01:48:17,972
Speaker 2: pis per year. Is that Dad Spies Because the people

2364
01:48:18,053 --> 01:48:21,333
Speaker 2: from Dad's Pies are great great New.

2365
01:48:21,333 --> 01:48:23,732
Speaker 3: Zealander's Silverdale supply BP pies.

2366
01:48:24,013 --> 01:48:27,372
Speaker 2: I understand the story is the founder of Dad's Pies.

2367
01:48:27,572 --> 01:48:33,012
Speaker 2: He arrived from the Netherlands and pies is the same

2368
01:48:33,093 --> 01:48:38,612
Speaker 2: word as urine, yes and Dutch. And so he was

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01:48:38,973 --> 01:48:40,932
Speaker 2: driving him from the airport and he goes, why they

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01:48:41,053 --> 01:48:43,213
Speaker 2: what's that? And then he looked into it and then

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01:48:43,253 --> 01:48:45,572
Speaker 2: started making them, selling them on I could be wrong

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01:48:45,652 --> 01:48:47,173
Speaker 2: selling them in Browns Bay. And then he went on

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01:48:47,213 --> 01:48:48,892
Speaker 2: and now they sell millions and millions of pies.

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01:48:49,532 --> 01:48:51,333
Speaker 3: What a great story. And yes it is Dad's pies.

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01:48:51,572 --> 01:48:53,093
Speaker 3: I'm just having a look at an article here. And

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01:48:53,133 --> 01:48:56,253
Speaker 3: they've done very very well in the Pie Awards multiple years,

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01:48:56,293 --> 01:48:56,612
Speaker 3: haven't they.

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01:48:56,853 --> 01:48:59,053
Speaker 2: Tom sauce is definitely a no go. But if you

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01:48:59,133 --> 01:49:01,253
Speaker 2: take the lid off and stir a bit of Lean

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01:49:01,372 --> 01:49:05,412
Speaker 2: Perens in, you're onto a winner. An absolute winner, says

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01:49:05,492 --> 01:49:06,852
Speaker 2: is Texter Leon Perens.

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01:49:07,372 --> 01:49:10,732
Speaker 3: It's a potlus was haven't seen for some time. Phil,

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01:49:10,812 --> 01:49:11,412
Speaker 3: How are you mate?

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01:49:12,333 --> 01:49:12,772
Speaker 7: Good mate?

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01:49:12,812 --> 01:49:14,772
Speaker 3: There were you good? What do you reckon?

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01:49:15,732 --> 01:49:18,412
Speaker 8: The best place of pies in Southland was two good places.

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01:49:18,492 --> 01:49:19,732
Speaker 8: First one Philly Bakery.

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01:49:20,812 --> 01:49:23,652
Speaker 3: Love a good feely pie. They still do the salmon

2389
01:49:23,893 --> 01:49:26,452
Speaker 3: and oh what did they do with semon pie? Salmon

2390
01:49:26,532 --> 01:49:30,213
Speaker 3: and bacon, Yeah, so good. It's like a mixture. It

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01:49:30,333 --> 01:49:33,173
Speaker 3: is a proper chunk of salmon. Philet that they chuck

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01:49:33,253 --> 01:49:34,652
Speaker 3: in there and then I don't know what they do

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01:49:34,732 --> 01:49:36,372
Speaker 3: with this. It's like a chowder so good.

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01:49:37,772 --> 01:49:40,772
Speaker 8: I picked up a twelve pack the other day, salmon

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01:49:40,812 --> 01:49:44,612
Speaker 8: and bacon, mincing cheese, cut of buttered chicken, cut of bacon, eggs.

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01:49:45,133 --> 01:49:48,732
Speaker 8: They had no lampires on the day, unfortunately. Yeah, they

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01:49:48,772 --> 01:49:49,773
Speaker 8: were great pies.

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01:49:49,973 --> 01:49:50,852
Speaker 2: Salmon and bacon.

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01:49:50,973 --> 01:49:52,812
Speaker 3: You don't think it's going to work, but they work

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01:49:52,893 --> 01:49:54,213
Speaker 3: some magic old Philly pies.

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01:49:54,412 --> 01:49:57,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like an accident.

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01:49:57,452 --> 01:49:59,333
Speaker 8: They tried to roast pork with a crackle on top.

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01:49:59,692 --> 01:50:01,772
Speaker 3: I haven't yet. No, there's my necks go to.

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01:50:04,692 --> 01:50:06,932
Speaker 8: Their roast pork. They have to crackle on top as well.

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01:50:07,053 --> 01:50:10,812
Speaker 8: So yeah, you to diephoid. Like the pastries, all flake

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01:50:10,933 --> 01:50:11,333
Speaker 8: is nice.

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01:50:11,612 --> 01:50:14,293
Speaker 2: Where do you sit? Fell on the sauce controversy, sauce

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01:50:14,372 --> 01:50:15,372
Speaker 2: on not to sauce.

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01:50:16,372 --> 01:50:18,812
Speaker 8: I agree with the guy that lem pearance no bag

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01:50:18,853 --> 01:50:21,093
Speaker 8: at the tomato sauce. Don't leave that out, but put

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01:50:21,093 --> 01:50:23,213
Speaker 8: the limparins in. But like a steak and cheese or

2412
01:50:23,293 --> 01:50:25,173
Speaker 8: mentioned cheese, you can't go past that.

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01:50:26,572 --> 01:50:28,933
Speaker 2: You're doing an autopsy on the pie and removing the

2414
01:50:29,013 --> 01:50:31,053
Speaker 2: lead and putting it in there, Like are you doing

2415
01:50:31,053 --> 01:50:31,333
Speaker 2: that or.

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01:50:32,372 --> 01:50:34,492
Speaker 8: Pi a hot one you cut out through it, but

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01:50:35,053 --> 01:50:37,412
Speaker 8: black sauce on there where you go nothing like it?

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01:50:37,652 --> 01:50:40,492
Speaker 2: Oh wow, interesting, Samuel, your anti sauce.

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01:50:41,652 --> 01:50:44,492
Speaker 22: Oh yeah, I've been listening for the last twenty minutes

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01:50:44,492 --> 01:50:47,892
Speaker 22: and it got pretty into this talk. I think any

2421
01:50:47,973 --> 01:50:50,692
Speaker 22: self respecting man isn't going to go through the tedious

2422
01:50:50,772 --> 01:50:54,133
Speaker 22: act of applying sauce to their pie. But I'm an

2423
01:50:54,293 --> 01:50:57,173
Speaker 22: avid BP either. I'm not going to go out of

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01:50:57,213 --> 01:51:00,013
Speaker 22: my way to buy like a ten dollar pie. So

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01:51:00,053 --> 01:51:02,933
Speaker 22: I'm constantly eating these four or five dollars pies. One

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01:51:02,973 --> 01:51:04,772
Speaker 22: sauce on the mate. You know, they're good enough as

2427
01:51:04,812 --> 01:51:06,772
Speaker 22: they are. You're going in there to buy a pie,

2428
01:51:06,893 --> 01:51:09,173
Speaker 22: not to buy sauce away, and I'll see it. And

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01:51:09,452 --> 01:51:12,093
Speaker 22: you know, if you're going to go throw sauce all

2430
01:51:12,133 --> 01:51:14,492
Speaker 22: over your pie, you get it down your chops, you

2431
01:51:14,572 --> 01:51:16,692
Speaker 22: might get someone your you know, your shirt. You just

2432
01:51:16,812 --> 01:51:18,972
Speaker 22: come home. You've had to be you had to cut

2433
01:51:19,053 --> 01:51:22,532
Speaker 22: I mean, you know, and it's just it's no good, you.

2434
01:51:22,612 --> 01:51:27,692
Speaker 2: Know, And especially especially if you've got those little sauces

2435
01:51:28,133 --> 01:51:29,452
Speaker 2: that you have to peel the pack it back. It's

2436
01:51:29,492 --> 01:51:30,652
Speaker 2: not so bad if you do it one of those

2437
01:51:30,692 --> 01:51:32,372
Speaker 2: ones squeezes and it comes out in the middle. But

2438
01:51:32,412 --> 01:51:34,412
Speaker 2: when you're when you're sitting driving and you're trying to

2439
01:51:35,213 --> 01:51:37,652
Speaker 2: get your pie and then peel open the source thing

2440
01:51:37,732 --> 01:51:40,333
Speaker 2: and squeeze it out, shake it on, it's getting on

2441
01:51:40,372 --> 01:51:42,572
Speaker 2: your fingers, it's getting every It's a disaster, you know,

2442
01:51:43,013 --> 01:51:45,972
Speaker 2: I agree one hundred cent Samuel. I mean, how how

2443
01:51:46,612 --> 01:51:48,253
Speaker 2: weak are you that you need to source up your

2444
01:51:48,293 --> 01:51:48,933
Speaker 2: pie and just eat it?

2445
01:51:49,812 --> 01:51:52,732
Speaker 22: Well, and it's just an inconvenience as well. Those sources,

2446
01:51:52,812 --> 01:51:54,333
Speaker 22: you know, you just go to squeeze them out and

2447
01:51:54,452 --> 01:51:56,532
Speaker 22: you kind of get just tomato sauce in your eyeball

2448
01:51:56,572 --> 01:51:58,133
Speaker 22: and you think, and shit, where's my pie?

2449
01:51:59,492 --> 01:52:00,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, that can't happen.

2450
01:52:00,333 --> 01:52:02,532
Speaker 2: It's a real danger if you if you love tomatoes

2451
01:52:02,612 --> 01:52:05,213
Speaker 2: so much, then order a pie with tomato in it.

2452
01:52:06,213 --> 01:52:08,932
Speaker 3: You know, it's not the same, not the same.

2453
01:52:09,372 --> 01:52:10,532
Speaker 2: Evan, welcome to the show.

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01:52:11,812 --> 01:52:14,692
Speaker 18: Top of the Afternoon to you. I've got a couple

2455
01:52:14,732 --> 01:52:19,293
Speaker 18: of favorite pies. But just as a side, I don't understand.

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01:52:19,452 --> 01:52:22,652
Speaker 18: I always thought I'm from Dunedin and I thought it

2457
01:52:22,732 --> 01:52:26,173
Speaker 18: was the need tradition taking the top off a good

2458
01:52:26,213 --> 01:52:28,053
Speaker 18: but it has to be a good pie. Top off

2459
01:52:28,093 --> 01:52:30,893
Speaker 18: a good pie eating the contents with the spoon and

2460
01:52:30,933 --> 01:52:31,812
Speaker 18: then finished past.

2461
01:52:32,692 --> 01:52:33,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, good on you, Evan.

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01:52:33,732 --> 01:52:37,213
Speaker 2: Dunedin tradition, Evan is the pie sandwich when you butter

2463
01:52:37,333 --> 01:52:38,812
Speaker 2: up two bits of white death and you put the

2464
01:52:38,853 --> 01:52:41,333
Speaker 2: pie in the middle and then and then eat it.

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01:52:41,572 --> 01:52:43,612
Speaker 2: That's the kind of carload you need.

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01:52:44,572 --> 01:52:49,333
Speaker 18: Totally A couple of my favorite pies grown up as

2467
01:52:49,372 --> 01:52:51,572
Speaker 18: a young fellow, I used to go up Central Otago

2468
01:52:51,612 --> 01:52:55,053
Speaker 18: all the time with my grandfather gold mining. We used

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01:52:55,093 --> 01:53:00,052
Speaker 18: to stop into Palmerston and get a mutton pie.

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01:53:00,452 --> 01:53:02,412
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of a mutton pie, Evan.

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01:53:03,692 --> 01:53:06,412
Speaker 7: Yeah. Good pies with you guys are muddle.

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01:53:06,452 --> 01:53:08,812
Speaker 3: It's mudd and ham mutton pies. I mean, how much

2473
01:53:08,853 --> 01:53:10,533
Speaker 3: pan was going on down in Dneda.

2474
01:53:11,253 --> 01:53:12,173
Speaker 7: A lot of mutton.

2475
01:53:16,053 --> 01:53:20,412
Speaker 18: Pie and just a little bit of history Ponsonby Pies hopefully.

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01:53:21,013 --> 01:53:22,972
Speaker 18: I used to have a shop for a few years

2477
01:53:23,013 --> 01:53:25,893
Speaker 18: in Ponto me and virtually opposite, so I used to

2478
01:53:25,973 --> 01:53:28,652
Speaker 18: go over there every day and the old fellow that

2479
01:53:28,772 --> 01:53:31,732
Speaker 18: owned it created it and own it for many years.

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01:53:32,812 --> 01:53:35,213
Speaker 18: He actually owned the open lake Cape Bay because he

2481
01:53:35,293 --> 01:53:37,012
Speaker 18: had least for both premises.

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01:53:37,973 --> 01:53:42,372
Speaker 6: I used to love, Yeah and yeah.

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01:53:42,452 --> 01:53:46,293
Speaker 18: He decided to go into Australia with his pies, a

2484
01:53:46,452 --> 01:53:49,732
Speaker 18: new new name and port of a family story. So

2485
01:53:49,732 --> 01:53:52,972
Speaker 18: who aren't go into it but basically the Ponsonby Pie

2486
01:53:53,093 --> 01:53:56,372
Speaker 18: so sort of all went but been been sideways. But yeah,

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01:53:57,053 --> 01:54:00,852
Speaker 18: it was a shame his landlord had decided to kill

2488
01:54:00,933 --> 01:54:04,692
Speaker 18: the rena after something like thirty years. To go pons

2489
01:54:04,772 --> 01:54:07,093
Speaker 18: and be listening to Ben's and two three in the

2490
01:54:07,173 --> 01:54:09,093
Speaker 18: morning Beef Struggle for the Open Lake.

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01:54:09,572 --> 01:54:12,213
Speaker 2: Yeah they did a great nachos as well, painting a

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01:54:12,293 --> 01:54:15,092
Speaker 2: lovely picture even thank you very much, beg very shortly.

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01:54:15,133 --> 01:54:16,213
Speaker 3: It is eight to three.

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01:54:18,253 --> 01:54:21,612
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2495
01:54:21,973 --> 01:54:22,932
Speaker 1: everything in between.

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01:54:23,173 --> 01:54:26,492
Speaker 6: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons Used Talks EDB.

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01:54:27,853 --> 01:54:30,892
Speaker 3: News Talks ed B. It is six to four.

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01:54:31,372 --> 01:54:34,293
Speaker 2: Hey, this is a positive chat on Lambshank pies. We've

2499
01:54:34,333 --> 01:54:37,012
Speaker 2: heard horror stories about the Big Bone and a lamb

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01:54:37,013 --> 01:54:39,693
Speaker 2: Shank pie, but this Texas is Lambshankpire wanaka Golf Club

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01:54:39,812 --> 01:54:42,533
Speaker 2: is unreal. Also, love a Jimmy's pie from a North

2502
01:54:42,613 --> 01:54:44,413
Speaker 2: Islander who eats a lot of pies. That's been Thank

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01:54:44,453 --> 01:54:46,653
Speaker 2: you for your text, good on your Ben, Hey yea,

2504
01:54:47,812 --> 01:54:49,852
Speaker 2: thank you so much for listening everyone. That brings us

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01:54:49,893 --> 01:54:53,333
Speaker 2: to the end of the Matt and Tyler Show for

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01:54:53,453 --> 01:54:56,253
Speaker 2: another day. I just want to say, tomato sauce is

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01:54:56,333 --> 01:54:59,373
Speaker 2: a coverer of sins. It should not be used. It

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01:54:59,413 --> 01:55:02,253
Speaker 2: should only be used on poor quality food pies and

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01:55:02,333 --> 01:55:04,772
Speaker 2: New Zealand have moved into the realm of high art,

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01:55:04,973 --> 01:55:08,693
Speaker 2: so tom sauce is no longer appropriate. Okay, you wouldn't

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01:55:08,693 --> 01:55:11,613
Speaker 2: split source over a meal at a fine dining restaurant, So,

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01:55:11,653 --> 01:55:14,413
Speaker 2: in my humble opinion, keep that sugary crap off.

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01:55:14,373 --> 01:55:17,013
Speaker 3: Your pies nicely skid yeah old, all right.

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01:55:17,493 --> 01:55:19,413
Speaker 2: That brings us the end of the show. As I said,

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01:55:19,573 --> 01:55:21,493
Speaker 2: the great and Powerful hithertoo. For see Ellen is up

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01:55:21,573 --> 01:55:25,333
Speaker 2: next and she's got an Australian aviation analyst on Jetstar

2517
01:55:25,493 --> 01:55:29,132
Speaker 2: dumping twelve percent of its trends Tasman flights. But Tyler,

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01:55:30,013 --> 01:55:35,213
Speaker 2: my good friend, why am I playing this mirotonal music dangerous?

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01:55:35,373 --> 01:55:35,533
Speaker 1: Now?

2520
01:55:35,653 --> 01:55:38,093
Speaker 3: I've been working on the pronunciations. Hopefully I nail it.

2521
01:55:38,253 --> 01:55:42,653
Speaker 3: Is this an jin doi pois trend.

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01:55:42,733 --> 01:55:45,253
Speaker 2: I just butchered there horribly as into the part twin Yeah,

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01:55:45,253 --> 01:55:48,772
Speaker 2: there we go, thank you honestly A N G I

2524
01:55:49,053 --> 01:55:51,932
Speaker 2: N E. That's all you need to put into Google.

2525
01:55:52,373 --> 01:55:54,413
Speaker 2: Lock them up. It'll change your life.

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01:55:54,493 --> 01:55:57,293
Speaker 3: It is very hypnotic. I'm gonna go watch them tonight.

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01:55:57,493 --> 01:55:58,012
Speaker 7: Very good.

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01:55:58,653 --> 01:55:59,053
Speaker 6: All right.

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01:56:00,413 --> 01:56:02,092
Speaker 2: That brings us into the show. As I said before,

2530
01:56:02,373 --> 01:56:04,933
Speaker 2: until tomorrow when we are live from twelve. Give a

2531
01:56:04,973 --> 01:56:08,933
Speaker 2: taste a Kiwi from Tyler and I. These guys are.

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01:56:09,293 --> 01:56:09,973
Speaker 2: That's insanity.

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01:56:11,853 --> 01:56:12,213
Speaker 17: I love.

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01:56:12,253 --> 01:56:14,933
Speaker 3: It makes me uncomfortable.

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01:56:15,812 --> 01:56:19,213
Speaker 2: Take nose, blocky little nose and the drama. It's crazy.

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01:56:55,733 --> 01:56:58,293
Speaker 1: For more from News Talk st B, listen live on

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01:56:58,453 --> 01:57:01,373
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