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Speaker 1: Health New Zealand is the country's largest organization by far.

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Speaker 1: It employs more than eighty thousand people. Roughly the same

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Speaker 1: number of teachers are employed by state schools in our

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Speaker 1: education system. And these numbers dwarf any private enterprise that's

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Speaker 1: currently operating here. Fletcher Building's got about eighteen thousand staff,

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Speaker 1: will worse about eighteen thousand, Fonterra about sixteen thousand. The

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Speaker 1: warehouse in New Zealand, Kmart they're up there too. Here's

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Speaker 1: a question for you, which of these organizations provides a

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Speaker 1: quality or even adequate service to us. When a private

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Speaker 1: airline says they'll fly you somewhere on a certain date

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Speaker 1: at a certain time, it generally happens. When you go

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Speaker 1: to the supermarket, you generally know you can reliably leave

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Speaker 1: with some milk and some bread in your hand. And

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Speaker 1: when you go to kmart, are you ever told you

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Speaker 1: must wait eighteen months for that twelve dollars lamp that

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Speaker 1: you've been eyeing up in the latest catalog? No? So,

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Speaker 1: why does this happen with our healthcare system? Why are

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Speaker 1: we constantly told you must wait, you must line up.

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Speaker 1: It's never good enough? Is there a we have students

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Speaker 1: failing exams, teacher shortages, low pay, hospital wait times, and

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Speaker 1: a lack of access to quality care. Is the reason

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Speaker 1: for this because they're all run by the state. I know,

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Speaker 1: big question for a Tuesday Ryan settled down. The workforces

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Speaker 1: are never happy, but they heavily unionize too. Is that

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Speaker 1: part of the problem or is that an attempt at

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Speaker 1: a solution. Don't get me wrong, Big corporates have their

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Speaker 1: own issues. We hate to see them profit, and I

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Speaker 1: don't imagine that we would stomach big profits off our kids'

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Speaker 1: education or grandma's hip replacement. We consider these things to

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Speaker 1: be basics, right, and international examples of privatized healthcare don't

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Speaker 1: exactly scream success. Get America. But if we're paying taxes,

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Speaker 1: an adequate service for basic needs is not being provided.

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Speaker 1: Is it not fair to ask whether the fact that

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Speaker 1: their public entities might just be part of the problem.

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