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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts

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Speaker 1: across residential, commercial, and rural news togs had been what.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome today? Word with a new police commissioner, new

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Speaker 2: laws around sexual assault crimes, new insight and how many

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Speaker 2: drugs were taking, new plan for kids and poverty. Jamie

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Speaker 2: Oliver might have a new recipe to tries with us

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Speaker 2: after right, Joe is in Italy? Rod does the booz

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Speaker 2: from the UK poscart's get into Thursday seven past six.

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Speaker 2: In fact, welcome to a whole new world. Gang patches

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Speaker 2: are gone, also says the law. The law also says

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Speaker 2: you can't text in the car, So let's see how

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Speaker 2: it unfolds. Like all these sort of things, there's been

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Speaker 2: a lot of weird debate around the edges. What constitutes

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Speaker 2: a patch? What about gathering in public? If there's an

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Speaker 2: odd example to be profit or a long, long long

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Speaker 2: bow to be drawn, you can count on a small

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Speaker 2: group of New Zealanders to do it. The main point

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Speaker 2: of what this government is and has done around gangs

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Speaker 2: and crime in general mayhem is get tougher and when

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Speaker 2: governments do things they say that don't get nearly as

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Speaker 2: much credit as governments who don't do what they say

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Speaker 2: get approbrium. As the Police Minister told us this week,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't get asked anymore if he's going to resign

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Speaker 2: because the person who does the asking knows full well

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Speaker 2: they don't have a leak to stand on. Mark Mitchell

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Speaker 2: has set out and continues to deliver what he said

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Speaker 2: he would, and gang patches and gang crackdown laws were

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Speaker 2: part of that, as those who argue against such measures

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Speaker 2: fail to see, it's not the specifics account, it's not

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Speaker 2: the nitty gritty, it's the big picture. It's the big message.

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Speaker 2: It's the top down attitude. The reason gangs like gram raids,

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Speaker 2: like walking out of supermarkets with a dozen beer in

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Speaker 2: a side of lamb became a thing is because the

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Speaker 2: low lifeers have one skill in common, the ability to

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Speaker 2: become emboldened at rapid pace. If they think they can

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Speaker 2: get away with it, they will and they did. But

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Speaker 2: equally they have the wherewithal to see when the game

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Speaker 2: If it's a bit tricky, they can't be bothered. The

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Speaker 2: most definitely turning. And it's only in this new light,

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Speaker 2: new reprieve and sense of relief do a lot of

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Speaker 2: us realize just how shockingly and unforgivingly bad it had

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Speaker 2: become emboldened by a government that sided with criminals before

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Speaker 2: they sided with us. New day, new law. The adults

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Speaker 2: thankfully are back and it's working.

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Speaker 1: Who news of the world in ninety seconds has.

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Speaker 2: Reached the commons. New labor. Government adjusted the spending on defense.

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Speaker 3: Our soldiers, sailors, aviators have been stuck with old, outdated

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Speaker 3: equipment because ministers wouldn't make the difficult decommissioning decisions. As

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Speaker 3: technology advances at peace, we must move faster towards the future.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially what they're doing, they're arguing, they're moving money

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Speaker 2: towards new equipment and a greater PERCENTAGEOHN defense tories not

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Speaker 2: buying it. They've killed off northsee oil, undermining our Injy security.

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Speaker 4: This week, they're killing off the family farm.

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Speaker 2: And threatening our food security.

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Speaker 5: Yet today they're scrapping key defense capabilities and weakening our

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Speaker 2: Meantime, the Americans have given the go ahead for Ukraine

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Speaker 6: Because of Russians have been so unsuccessful in the way

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Speaker 2: And then in the other war, these security councils dummed

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Speaker 7: We regret that the council could have incorporated compromise language

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Speaker 7: support these humanitarian steps. With that language, this resolution should

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Speaker 2: As regards to the new US president, they're trying to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, significant competing constitutional issues the office of the presidency

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Speaker 2: And as we told you yesterday, Nadal is saying goodbye

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Speaker 8: and a kid that follow their dreams and achieved more

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Speaker 2: Finally, Italian authorities have uncovered more than fourteen million dollars

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Speaker 2: to sell it now. This leads to wire taps, near

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Speaker 2: as News of the World in ninety. By the way,

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Speaker 2: inflation when a government spends and the cost of power

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Speaker 2: goes through the roof, guess what you get. You get inflation.

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Speaker 2: So overnight the read was two point three percent. Everyone

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Speaker 2: so not good news. Eleven pass six.

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Speaker 2: I've got good news from Japan. Exports rose three point

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Speaker 2: one percent year on year in October. That's reversal of

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Speaker 2: a one point seven percent fall in September. It beat expectations.

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Speaker 2: Second largest economy in Asia, of course, so things starting

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Speaker 2: to pick up their fourteen past six we've been picking

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Speaker 2: out Andrew Kelleher j my wealth, good morning, very good morning.

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Speaker 2: My ten dollars here we come.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna focus on the positive this morning. But we're

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Speaker 5: not going to focus on it. We're going to revel

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Speaker 5: frolicked for a while, so we're going to frolic because

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Speaker 5: economic data continues to be a little bit glum, but

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Speaker 5: some sexors of the economy are going well. So yesterday

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Speaker 5: we welcomed another positive Global Dairy Trade Auction result. This

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Speaker 2: To get more bucks.

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Speaker 2: Revel in that exactly our best headline of the week

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Speaker 2: so far. In Vidia earnings are more important to the

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're all sitting around now waiting for a

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Speaker 5: So the release of their results is being seen as

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Speaker 10: James?

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Speaker 2: Well, some of you, some of your land?

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Speaker 10: Who's going to buy it? I don't know.

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Speaker 11: Me again we've had the offer for wind there you go.

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Speaker 2: Not a good day for them in Europe Global Company

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Speaker 2: He claims changes underway now. Traffic Direct General Manager Dev

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Speaker 2: Twenty minutes away from SEVENS guest to give you the

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Speaker 2: Welling Mike, good luck to assuming and getting any changes

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Speaker 2: lanes and wires, wire barriers, bread. I get your point.

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Speaker 2: But the public service, which is what they are, is

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Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of the war and Anks, the

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Speaker 12: Sixteen two International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance. Peace

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Speaker 2: Apart from Europe and Italy, John the Penna morning to you.

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Speaker 13: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: So regional elections, where were they and how bad was

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Speaker 2: it for Maloney?

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Speaker 13: Well, these elections were in central Italy, in the regions

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Speaker 13: Democratic Party and its allies. And I think Maloney is

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Speaker 13: also starting to do a little bit of soul searching

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Speaker 13: about why this happened.

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Speaker 2: Interesting speaking of Romania, and I don't want to lighten

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Speaker 2: this too much, but are you up on the palmer

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Speaker 2: Han problems. They've got palmer Han problems and the pigs

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Speaker 2: are getting diseases and so there's going to be along

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Speaker 2: with the coco and the coffee and the chocolate all

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Speaker 2: over the world, going to be a Palmeham shortage.

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Speaker 13: Well, there was some talk about some diseases I think

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Speaker 13: earlier in the year, and it will be very significant

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Speaker 13: if it strikes that area because they've also had earthquakes

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Speaker 13: and floods in that region. So what is normally a

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Speaker 13: very strong economic center for Italy has been dealing with

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Speaker 13: some really big setbacks in the last few years.

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Speaker 2: We're speaking of the economics twenty five budget. How did

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Speaker 2: it go down? Not too well.

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Speaker 13: We're seeing some protests in various sectors today. Interestingly, Italian

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Speaker 13: doctors and nurses went on a nationwide strike which drew

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Speaker 13: about eighty five percent support. They are saying that not

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Speaker 13: enough money is being allocated for healthcare, which of course

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Speaker 13: is ballooning in this country because we have so many

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Speaker 13: elderly people, and they're saying that the unions are saying

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Speaker 13: that they just are insufficient resources to pay staff and

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Speaker 13: keep the system functioning.

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Speaker 2: Does everyone want more spent on everything?

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Speaker 13: Look, I think they do, but I see a system

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Speaker 13: that is in need of certainly improved infrastructure. Compared to

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Speaker 13: some of the hospitals that you would see in your country.

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Speaker 13: This system looks very run down, and waiting lists are

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Speaker 13: of course a big problem in a public system.

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Speaker 2: Does everyone or a lot of people have private insurance?

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Speaker 2: And does private insurance work? And can you get access

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Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff for them?

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Speaker 13: Private insurance is quite rare. Actually most people go through

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Speaker 13: the public system.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Palermo, take me there, building site, what's going on?

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Speaker 13: Wow? So this sounds like a scene from the first

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Speaker 13: Godfather movie that people might remember from nineteen seventy two.

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Speaker 13: A severed horses head was sent to the property of

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Speaker 13: a Sicilian businessman, like that grizzly scene in the film.

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Speaker 13: He's a building contractor and I think he's made some

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Speaker 13: enemies who don't really like what he's doing or want

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Speaker 13: to influence where he goes next with his business. They

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Speaker 13: also send him a dead pregnant cow. So the police

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Speaker 13: are intervening in. Politicians are surprised.

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Speaker 2: No kidding, now, Glady eight or two? Is that a smash?

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Speaker 14: It's looking like a smash.

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Speaker 2: I have to say.

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Speaker 13: I raced out to see it on Saturday and the

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Speaker 13: theater was full. It was in original language, but in

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Speaker 13: Italy we will be seeing it dubbed and in the

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Speaker 13: original language, and it is causing a bit of a storm.

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Speaker 13: I even heard that Russell Crowe had passed through recently

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Speaker 13: for promotions, even though he's on a unit for three seconds,

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Speaker 13: you know, because he got killed, as.

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Speaker 2: We know in exactly. Hey, listen, I was watching Do

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Speaker 2: you know the name Richard Quest, the guy at CNN.

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Anyway, So anyway, Richard does the show called Quest's World

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Speaker 2: of Wonder And the other day he went to that

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Speaker 2: hotel from the television program I can't remember that. It's

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Speaker 2: down and down in Sicily. That became super nice, right, Yes,

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Speaker 2: he was at that hotel. Now, I'd read about that

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Speaker 2: hotel and you can't get in for love nor money.

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Speaker 2: The cost of a rumor is through the roof, and

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Speaker 2: it's just packed, and it's a desire. He was there

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Speaker 2: by himself, and he's filming there basically by himself, and

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Speaker 2: there's very few people around. Can you go to that

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Speaker 2: part of the world at a time of the year

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Speaker 2: where you can swim in the pool reasonably, comfortably and quietly?

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Speaker 2: Or is he is that just a big setup? Because

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Speaker 2: I would love to go.

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Speaker 13: I think it's worth a look. I knew someone who

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Speaker 13: zipped down there to have a look at that hotel

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Speaker 13: immediately after the White Loaders series exited, and she said,

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Speaker 13: the hotel rooms are pretty ordinary. They're not that great,

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Speaker 13: but they were super expensive. And Tarmina, that town where

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Speaker 13: it was shot, was always very, very popular, even before

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Speaker 13: the series. And I've been avoiding it because I just

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Speaker 13: thought it must be off the radar by now. But

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Speaker 13: maybe we need to investigate that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we need to investigate that because I think because

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Speaker 2: it looks I mean, it's on a cliff and it's

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Speaker 2: a beautiful view and it's a fabulous part of the world,

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Speaker 2: but I just don't want to hang out with a

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Speaker 2: large number of people.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, I think that's getting harder and harder, as

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Speaker 13: we've talked about in Italy all the time.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, nice to talk to you. It's another one about

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Speaker 2: crazy old rambles. But that how goes Joe mckenner in Italy.

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Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of movies, the BBC, which you've

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Speaker 2: got to believe when it comes to movie reviews, wicked.

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Speaker 2: This drawn out and self important film proves the musical

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Speaker 2: didn't need to be split into two parts. So that's

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Speaker 2: the end of that for me turn away from seven the.

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Speaker 1: Myke hosting Brakfast with al Vida Retirement Communities newsab.

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Speaker 2: Like I was in Taramna last month for a week.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful city but as you thought, very populated with tourists. Mark, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: if you watch quests programming, he was in the pull

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Speaker 2: law by himself. He probably arranged that. S like he

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Speaker 2: is Mike talking about defense? Where's our defense capability review?

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Speaker 2: Excellent question, Richard supposed to be out in March then

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Speaker 2: October November's closing out still not made public. We'll ask

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister on Tuesday, Sammy note that down question

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Speaker 2: for the Prime Minister on Tuesday. Where's our defense review?

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Speaker 10: Now?

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Speaker 2: A little bit disappointing this morning, but you'll be aware

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Speaker 2: of you're in the business of immigration and visas. One,

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Speaker 2: we're not very good at it to no one wants

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Speaker 2: to come to the country anyway. And three they put

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Speaker 2: up the fee announcement this morning for you from the

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Speaker 2: Acting Deputy Chief Operating Officer of Immigration Jock. Jock says

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Speaker 2: the new visa application fees have reduced taxpayer costs associated

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Speaker 2: with the immigration system. Why is he telling us this

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Speaker 2: because unfortunately, when they put the fees up, and they

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Speaker 2: put them up a lot. Cost of an accredited employer

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Speaker 2: work Visa has more than doubled from seven to fifty

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Speaker 2: to fifteen hundred and forty dollars, and that happened last month.

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Speaker 2: So you would think, oh, yep, nap spres the place

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Speaker 2: up and get the service going. He goes no immigration.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand are telling us businesses and migrants should not

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Speaker 2: expect better services following the hike and fees. Do not

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Speaker 2: expect them. This is before we get to the power business,

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Speaker 2: which I'll come to before seven thirty. But if you

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Speaker 2: thought you're going to get better service, m m all

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Speaker 2: that's happened is that they're paying more of the overarching

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Speaker 2: bill as opposed to the taxpayer. So soz about it.

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Speaker 2: Six away from seven all the ins and the ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now, on the subjects of travel, not only are we

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Speaker 2: still flying flying flash front of the plane, that's growing.

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Speaker 2: Delta Airlines invested day presentation the day they talked to

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Speaker 2: forecast revenue growth. They're currently the US's most profitable airline.

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Speaker 2: Next year, they expect to expand by three to four percent.

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Speaker 2: They expect to grow adjusted earnings by ten percent, and

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Speaker 2: they're going to do that per year over the next

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Speaker 2: three to five years. Since twenty nineteen, they invested heavily

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Speaker 2: at the high end of it all it's paying off.

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Speaker 2: Back In twenty ten, revenue from the main cabin was

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Speaker 2: sixty percent of what they've brought in over the last

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Speaker 2: fourteen years. That's changed dramatically. Fifty seven percent of their

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Speaker 2: revenue now is made up from premium seats and the

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Speaker 2: high end of their loyalty program, compared with just forty

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Speaker 2: three percent from the main cabin. They also said by

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, they expect premium seat ticket revenue alone

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Speaker 2: without the loyalty to exceed coach seat tickets. They also

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Speaker 2: set back in twenty ten, only twelve percent of their

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Speaker 2: first class tickets were paid for twelve percent because it

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Speaker 2: was all upgrades from frequent flyers. These days, seventy percent

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Speaker 2: of first class seats are actually bought outline the ones

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Speaker 2: paying more. Gen Zetas millennials, they valued comfort more than

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Speaker 2: other generations, not just Delta, by the way, American, United,

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Speaker 2: Jet Blue, They're all flying trying to beat each other,

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Speaker 2: adding more premium seats and including more of that live

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Speaker 2: flat stuff. Investors, they love it. I mean, listen to

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Speaker 2: the numbers. Delta shares are up sixty percent this year.

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Speaker 2: United are up one hundred and twenty eight percent. I mean,

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Speaker 2: some of that's to do with any video in the

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Speaker 2: market generally, but we're still loving flying. And listen to this.

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Speaker 2: This is the weirdest thing. Speaking of Delta, do you

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Speaker 2: know what Delta announced yesterday? A dining option. Do you

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Speaker 2: know what their first class dining option is next year

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Speaker 2: Shakeshack Burgers a cheeseburger first of its kind partnership long

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Speaker 2: distance domestic flights beginning December one, Alaskan Airlines created a

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Speaker 2: hot coffee that tastes better in the skies. United have

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Speaker 2: got coffee, cold coffee brew from itly. But you get

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Speaker 2: a cheeseburger on Delta. So you pay a fortune to

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Speaker 2: fly across America. And I've paid a fortune to fly

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Speaker 2: across America, and if they'd serve me a cheeseburger, I

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Speaker 2: would have had something to say about it. You don't

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Speaker 2: get any chips because they can't cook chips properly on

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Speaker 2: a plane, but you do get peckles and you do

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Speaker 2: get lettus. They're on the side, and you get the

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Speaker 2: shit a sauce that's on the side as well, and

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Speaker 2: you do you get a small caesar with it and

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Speaker 2: a chocolate brownie reminiscent of Shake Attack flavors from some

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Speaker 2: of the brand's dessert offerings. It's a cheeseburger in first class,

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Speaker 2: really first class, honestly.

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Speaker 15: Because it is this part of the the new to

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Speaker 15: the regime. Now that Donald Trump is going.

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Speaker 2: To be president, it would be that, actually it could

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Speaker 2: be it could be burgers and I want a Trump

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Speaker 2: esque type move. Richard Chambers. Now he's your new police commissioner.

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Speaker 2: Is he going to be any good? What's the cut

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Speaker 2: of his? Dub? Will ask some questions for you, and

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Speaker 2: then Jamie Oliver is with us after eight o'clock this

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Speaker 2: morning here on the my asking bos today. Oh aren't

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Speaker 2: you I need you Olga need It is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: These are hoog.

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Speaker 2: The newspakers and.

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Speaker 1: The personalities of the big day talk to like breakfast

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Speaker 1: with the Range rovervill are designed to intrigue and use togs.

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Speaker 2: That'd be well seven past seven. So we've got our

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Speaker 2: new police Commissioner, Richard Chambers takes over from Andrew Costa,

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Speaker 2: acopper since nineteen ninety sixty, starts his first five year

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Speaker 2: term on Monday, and Richard Chambers is with us A

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 9: Good morning Mike, and thanks for the opportunity to chat this.

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Speaker 2: Morning, not at all in congratulations. Did you join the

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Speaker 2: police in ninety six with a view to becoming higher up?

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Speaker 16: No?

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Speaker 9: I didn't, actually, Mike. I joined because I just wanted

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Speaker 9: to be a good frontline copper and I love my

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Speaker 9: time on the front line and that's why I'm still

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Speaker 9: really focused on, you know, what happens across our country

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Speaker 9: every day and every night by our wonderful frontline staff.

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Speaker 2: How would you describe the current state of the police

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Speaker 2: force in this country?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Look, I mean, you know, policing is a fascinating career

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Speaker 9: which changes the variety the opportunities that we get. You know,

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Speaker 9: it's a great career and you know we've had our challengers.

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Speaker 9: You've got to remember that the men and women of

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Speaker 9: New Zealand police are normal people just like me, Mum's dads,

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Speaker 9: sons and daughters. And you know, policing is tough, It's

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Speaker 9: really tough where human beings do doing our best and

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Speaker 9: we're adapting to changes, you know, and expectations of public.

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Speaker 9: So you know, it's a great occupation, great career, and

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Speaker 9: we're a bunch of fine people doing God's work and

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Speaker 9: it's great to be a part of the police.

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Speaker 2: Are you cognizant that you joined at a time I

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Speaker 2: was looking at a list of previous police commissioners. I

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Speaker 2: think most New Zealanders could name Costa, probably most would

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Speaker 2: name Bush. Before that I'd start to struggle. And I've

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Speaker 2: been in the media for forty years. You're joining it

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Speaker 2: at a time when the police commissioner is a household name.

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Speaker 2: Is that good and does it worry you?

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Speaker 9: Well? It's an important, important role, Mike. We all understand that,

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Speaker 9: you know, public safety and security. There are issues that

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Speaker 9: are critically important to all New Zealanders, So of course

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Speaker 9: it's a high profile role. You know, my frontline staff,

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Speaker 9: they are the heart and soul of policing in New

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Speaker 9: Zealand and that's why my job is to ensure that

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Speaker 9: they are well supported. So it's good to see that.

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Speaker 9: You know, New Zealanders take policing and their safety and

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Speaker 9: their security seriously. So we've got a big job to do,

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Speaker 9: and it's an absolute privilege for me to leave you organization.

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Speaker 2: And do you have enough resource to do that job? Oh?

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Speaker 9: Look, we have fifteen thousand incredible staff across the country

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Speaker 9: and off shore, and we will do our absolute best

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Speaker 9: with the resources that we have. And I'm confident that

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Speaker 9: we're going to make a real positive difference over the

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Speaker 9: next few years.

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Speaker 2: And although you don't officially start until Monday, you join

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Speaker 2: us this morning. Of course. With the new gang laws,

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Speaker 2: are they good laws?

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean three minutes past midnight last night, my

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Speaker 9: staff and Hastings stopped the vehicle an individual disclaying Gang

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Speaker 9: Sydney Insignia in a public place and they're now facing

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Speaker 9: prosecution for that, So you know, I mean we work

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Speaker 9: with the laws. Our job was law enforcement, and my

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Speaker 9: staff will adapt and do a marvelous job. We won't

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Speaker 9: always get it right. They might, you know, sometimes we

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Speaker 9: make mistakes. That's why I say with human beings, but

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Speaker 9: so long as we approach the work that we do

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Speaker 9: with a learning mindset and wanting to be better than

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Speaker 9: you know, we're in a good position to adapt to

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Speaker 9: any challenge.

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Speaker 2: And did that situation at three minutes past midnight go down. Well,

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Speaker 2: did it or was there some ankst around it?

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Speaker 16: No?

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Speaker 9: No, My staff did a marvelous job dealt with it

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Speaker 9: incredibly professionally. The person that we were interacting with was

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Speaker 9: respectful to the police staff. So I'm happy with how

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Speaker 9: that went, and I suspect there'll be more such interactions

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Speaker 9: to come.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk over the next five years. Appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Go well, Richard Chambers, the new police Commissioner. Eleven minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven. As related matters, we have this morning two

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Speaker 2: major changes potentially to name suppression laws. The first would

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Speaker 2: waive the right to permanent name suppression for convicted at

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Speaker 2: all defenders. Second would ensure also by is of sexual

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Speaker 2: crimes are granted automatic suppression. Now the Justice Minist's in

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Speaker 2: charge of this and Paul Goldsmith's with us. Good morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning mate. Are there gaps in the law? Well, look,

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Speaker 2: the primary.

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Speaker 8: Issue is that you have people who are convicted of

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Speaker 8: sexual crimes rape and have been convicted and they can

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Speaker 8: still get permanent name suppression. And that's a massive issue,

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Speaker 8: particularly for the victims. They can't really talk about what

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Speaker 8: happened to them, they can't warn others, and so website

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Speaker 8: look You only get permanent name suppression if you're a

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Speaker 8: convicted sex offender if the victim agrees, and if the

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Speaker 8: victim doesn't agree.

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Speaker 10: We're tough luck.

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Speaker 8: You're not going to get it, and you should own

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Speaker 8: up for your crimes.

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Speaker 2: And when we talk about the views of the victim

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Speaker 2: taken into account, how real versus how sympathetic is that?

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Speaker 8: Well, that's the current law that the views of the

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Speaker 8: victim are taken into account. And you know, frankly, sometimes

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Speaker 8: it doesn't get very far, and the person who's being

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Speaker 8: convicted as guilty of these sexual crimes remains, continues to

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Speaker 8: have their name suppressed forever, and they have huge, long

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Speaker 8: court battles over it. It retramastises the victims in that process,

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Speaker 8: and you know, I just the fundamentally don't agree with that,

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Speaker 8: because you can't how do you warn other victims. And

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Speaker 8: our focus in government, of course, is to reduce the

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Speaker 8: number of victims of violent and sexual offending. And the

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Speaker 8: best place to start, of course, is to deal with

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Speaker 8: the people who are doing it most often, such as

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Speaker 8: gang members and all those sorts of things. But also

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Speaker 8: when you've been a convicted sex offender, well there's a

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Speaker 8: real risk that you continue and do that elsewhere, and

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Speaker 8: so they've got they've got to own up to their

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Speaker 8: crimes so that the community knows who they're dealing with.

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Speaker 2: You've got the numbers obviously, so this is a pay

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Speaker 2: to complete. What's the timeline on.

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Speaker 8: It, Well, there's a current piece of legislation which had

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Speaker 8: been going through the House and I'm making an amendment

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Speaker 8: to that.

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Speaker 10: So we'll introduce that.

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Speaker 8: We'll send it off to a SLEEC committee for a

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Speaker 8: short period and then pass it pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time. Paul Goldsmith, the Justice Minister with us

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Speaker 2: thirteen minutes past seven. We popped into the White Lotus

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Speaker 2: Hotel in Sicily a month ago, fairly quiet. We had

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Speaker 2: a lovely lunch in the restaurant overlooking the stunning coastline,

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Speaker 2: beautiful hotel, to only a couple of people by the Paul, Well,

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Speaker 2: I reckon say for you a month ago? What are

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Speaker 2: you talking? September October? There we go, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Are you surprised like I was? Yesterday? We new Zealand

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Speaker 2: have designated Hebela a terrorist entity, as though that's something

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Speaker 2: we've been thinking about for a very long period of time.

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Speaker 2: They've also we slapped a similar designation on the Hooties.

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Speaker 2: The hooties of the people jumping on ships and the

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Speaker 2: channel and stopping all the ships going through and supplying

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Speaker 2: us with goods and services, the Palestinian Solidarity Network are

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Speaker 2: ter roa. The move was wrong at every level because

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Speaker 2: the two groups were only trying to stop what was

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Speaker 2: happening in Gaza. Really is that what they're trying to do?

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Speaker 2: But my question being does it surprise you that we

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Speaker 2: hadn't previously seen his Bala as a terrorist entity? How

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Speaker 2: has it taken us till twenty twenty four to work

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Speaker 2: that out? Fourteen parts.

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Speaker 1: The like asking Breakfast All Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: At b Jamie Oliver after sixteen past seven, So where

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Speaker 2: are we at with our drug use? The annual Mass

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Speaker 2: University Trend Survey out this morning. Meth is getting cheaper,

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Speaker 2: access to cocaine easier, its users increasing too. We've also

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Speaker 2: got to change in the use of tobacco, cannabis and psychedelics.

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Speaker 2: Massy University drug researcher Chris Wilkins with US Morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Are we a drug eduled nation?

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Speaker 9: I think we're part of a global drug system that's

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Speaker 9: changed quite a bit in the last few years. So

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Speaker 9: now we've got increasingly more synthetic drugs and so we've

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Speaker 9: got digital markets as social media, encrypted apps and darknets.

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Speaker 2: Wow, the stuff that you produce, the detail you produce,

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Speaker 2: how accurate is it?

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Speaker 9: Well, what we do is we it's a convenience survey,

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Speaker 9: but we talked to ten thousand current drug users in

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Speaker 9: New Zealand, so it's basically we also look at our

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Speaker 9: results and compare them to other researcher's going on, other

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Speaker 9: data that's going on, so like wastwater testing, police seizures

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Speaker 9: and police operations, and we often find very consistent resorts

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Speaker 9: or results compared to those data sources.

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Speaker 2: How much is driven by price.

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Speaker 9: Prices? Well, drugs are just like any other commodity for

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Speaker 9: prices of course key and that's part of one of

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Speaker 9: the indicators that we collect with the survey. And what

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Speaker 9: we've found is a declining price over the last since

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Speaker 9: twenty seventeen. So one of the key findings this year

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Speaker 9: was that the price of methamphetamin's actually declined thirty five

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Speaker 9: percent since twenty seventeen. And of course we're all going

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Speaker 9: through the cost of living crisis where with prices go up,

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Speaker 9: but it seems in the legal economy the cost of

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Speaker 9: drugs just get cheaper.

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Speaker 2: Well at least it's not inflationary. I suppose that's encouraging.

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Speaker 2: Do you get depressed by this when you see this

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff, Well.

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Speaker 9: As I said, it's well, it's really interesting for us

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Speaker 9: in a kind of academic way because you know, as

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Speaker 9: I said, we've had this cross the looms that we're

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Speaker 9: expecting prices to go up, But this is really some

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Speaker 9: really global drives about drug use, as I said, synthetic

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Speaker 9: drugs versus plant paid drugs, which additionally used to And

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Speaker 9: also if you're from my generation, you kind of think

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Speaker 9: about place baked drug markets where you meet someone in person,

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Speaker 9: you exchange the drugs you know, you only know the

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Speaker 9: people you know. But increasingly young people have a digital

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Speaker 9: drug market where they're open to all types of offers

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Speaker 9: for drugs and different prices and markets, and a lot

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Speaker 9: of those apps are encrypted, so it's just a different

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Speaker 9: world in terms of how the drug market operates.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the word global. How much of our drug

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Speaker 2: use is global as and supplied globally versus a bit

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Speaker 2: of cannabis which has grown up the road.

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Speaker 9: Most of it comes from overseas. So one of the

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Speaker 9: interesting things this year that you might have kind of

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Speaker 9: heard about in recently is Mexican cartels, which is something

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Speaker 9: you haven't probably heard about previously. So it's a global market.

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Speaker 9: So a lot of the methampemine we have traditionally used

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Speaker 9: has come from Southeast Asia, but Australian police are saying

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Speaker 9: that seventy percent of the myth they now see is

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Speaker 9: actually from North America South America, basically Mexican cartels, and

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Speaker 9: they're essentially just like any other market, they're seen a

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Speaker 9: market opportunity and they're selling at a cut price.

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Speaker 2: So what's happening with there seems to be a tremendous

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Speaker 2: amount of cocaine about the place.

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Speaker 9: That's right. So that was another really surprising finding was

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Speaker 9: that the level of cocaine use liver or cocaine availability

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Speaker 9: obviously in Auckland, but also in Northland and they have plenty,

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Speaker 9: but really all over New Zealand. And this may well

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Speaker 9: be some overlap with that Mexican cartel, and of course

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Speaker 9: they're in the cocaine trade, and if they're selling myth

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Speaker 9: to New Zealand and to Australia. Then cocaine is also

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Speaker 9: are another thing that's obviously got access to.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell how many New Zealanders don't smoke, don't vape,

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Speaker 2: don't do drugs? Is there anyone left.

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Speaker 9: Not with this survey? So we purposely target current drug

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Speaker 9: users because we want to know about what's happening in

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Speaker 9: the drug market. So it's not a representative national survey.

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Speaker 9: But if you go to the Ministry of Health Health Survey,

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Speaker 9: you'll see you can find out that step.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time. That is Chris Wilkins out of Massy

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Speaker 2: seven twenty one.

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Speaker 2: with heart. SBS Bank twenty four. Ironic that we mentioned

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Speaker 2: the ComCom yesterday, Commas Commission yesterday, and here we are

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Speaker 2: indulging in a little bit more of its madness. Lines charges,

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Speaker 2: the cost of getting power to your house is going

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Speaker 2: to get more expensive. Your bill will rise for the

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Speaker 2: next handful of years by up to eighty five dollars

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Speaker 2: a month, which is over a thousand dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: Is your power better No? Do you get more power? No,

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Speaker 2: you just pay more. Why Well, because the Commission decided

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Speaker 2: they're going to let Transpower and the local lines company

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Speaker 2: charge more so they can invest in new infrastructure, and

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Speaker 2: they will be allowed to raise just shy of six

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Speaker 2: billion dollars. Now here is irony number one. We also

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Speaker 2: say the commissionnderstand the importance of incentivizing business to invest

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Speaker 2: and improve and meet consumer demands. What you don't think

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Speaker 2: that they would charge this and more if they could?

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Speaker 2: And what incentive? Transpower are a monopoly, they've got no

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Speaker 2: incentive to improve anything. Irony number two. The six billion

893
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Speaker 2: is way more than it should be. What should it be, Mike?

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Speaker 2: Under three billion? Why? Because fifty five percent work out

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Speaker 2: fifty five percent of six billion. Fifty five percent is

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Speaker 2: because of higher inflation and interest rates. Now how do

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Speaker 2: we get those? Mike? Ah, well, that's right, it's Adrian.

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Speaker 2: If you want yet another tangible example of how the

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Speaker 2: labor government and Adrian, or the years of incompetence roll on,

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Speaker 2: than here you are three billion dollars worth and that

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Speaker 2: is for nothing other than admin and fees. Stuff that

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Speaker 2: should not have happened if the approach in COVID hadn't

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Speaker 2: been as grandiose, wasteful and plane idiotic. More inflation than

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Speaker 2: we ever needed, leading of course to interest rates, we

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have had to have to try and bring it

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Speaker 2: all back down to earth entirely a result of the

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Speaker 2: COVID approach that crippled the country. Plenty of intangibles and

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Speaker 2: COVID of course, yes, morals and behavior and mental health

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Speaker 2: and school attendance, but simple math as well. Fifty five

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Speaker 2: percent of six billion dollars so we can pay transpower

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Speaker 2: to do what they should have done anyway. Awesome economics

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Speaker 2: in an awesome economy. Pasking getting good feedback on the

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Speaker 2: police commissioner mics and our retired police officer. It was

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Speaker 2: good to hear such a frontline focused Commissioner. Chambers served

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Speaker 2: as my district of Tasman. He was highly regarded. Thank

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Speaker 2: you Mark, new police commissioner sounds like a breath of

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Speaker 2: fresh air. Yes, police are indeed human beings doing an

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Speaker 2: increasingly difficult job, and they should have all the equipment

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Speaker 2: to help them do that as safely as possible, including

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Speaker 2: body cameras, taseres and side arms. Every police officer should

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Speaker 2: have a taser as a bare minimum. Myke COREA government

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Speaker 2: putting the interest of the victim's first, how refreshing. So

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Speaker 2: that's encouraging. I did go to the website as suggested

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Speaker 2: by the previous drug researcher, there are fifty thousand coke

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Speaker 2: users in the country and there's seven hundred thousand plus

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Speaker 2: cannabis users. The other thing we didn't have time to

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Speaker 2: cover is there are now officially in his survey, there

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Speaker 2: are now more vapors than there are smokers. So I

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Speaker 2: think that just confirms what we had on the program yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We've traded one problem for another. Jamie Oliver hasn't been

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Speaker 2: on the program for a handful of years, so we're

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Speaker 2: looking forward to the catch up. He's with us after eight.

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Speaker 2: You're on the mic Hosking Breakfast, The.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Show You Can Trust The mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial, and

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Speaker 1: rural news Togsdad be Mike.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure about transpower, but when it comes to

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Speaker 2: the local lines companies, there's skins, especially the small ones.

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Speaker 2: The current model doesn't provide them with the sufficient profits

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Speaker 2: to build new lines and substations. They can only borrow,

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Speaker 2: which does not cut the mustard. If we want people

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Speaker 2: to continue receiving power twenty four seven, we need to

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Speaker 2: build excuse me, new assets. There's no question about that,

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Speaker 2: and there's been an ongoing debate about transpower and monopoly

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Speaker 2: and the Commerce Commission. And the problem I have with

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Speaker 2: the Commerce Mission is they basically make it up as

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Speaker 2: they go along. I'm not sure there is another way.

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Speaker 2: But in other words, they've said six billion, you can

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Speaker 2: raise six billion dollars, you are allowed to increase your

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Speaker 2: prices by that amount of money. And it's all based

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Speaker 2: on an argument and how cohesive your argument is when

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Speaker 2: you go to the Commerce Commission, and I'm just not

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Speaker 2: sure they're the best people to be doing this anyway, Mike.

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Speaker 2: The gent tailors have known about the lines company price

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Speaker 2: rises for two years and put the energy price rises

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Speaker 2: through preemptively. They will be out in the next two

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Speaker 2: weeks saying we will not be passing on these increased

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Speaker 2: line charges to protect households. There's something in that I

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Speaker 2: just can't help but think, because there's no question the

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Speaker 2: gent tailors are fantastically profitable, and they'll argue on but

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Speaker 2: we need to build some windmills, and we need to

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Speaker 2: give build some solar panels and that, all of which

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Speaker 2: is true. We understand that. But at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, we're paying more and not getting any more,

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Speaker 2: and that doesn't sit particularly well with me. Twenty two

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Speaker 2: minutes away from eight a's before we get to the

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Speaker 2: old Newsy debate, and I noticed with a great deal

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Speaker 2: of interesting afternoon lads, we're picking up and running with

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Speaker 2: that one yesterday. So maybe there's life and that whole

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Speaker 2: debate still to come. Anyway, we've got the Child and

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Speaker 2: Youth Strategy for the next three years being launched this morning.

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Speaker 2: Now we've got three priorities here is supporting families in

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Speaker 2: the first two thousand days, reducing hardship and preventing harm.

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Speaker 2: So what's all that means our child poverty reduction? Minister

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Speaker 2: Louise Upston with us, Good morning, Good money, Mike. So

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Speaker 2: the three priorities you talk of, aren't we already doing this?

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Speaker 14: Well?

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Speaker 17: What this does is actually allows us to combine our

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Speaker 17: efforts across government and focus on the things that matter.

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Speaker 17: If I want to ensure that we're improving the lives

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Speaker 17: of young New Zealanders, and this is a government that's

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Speaker 17: committed to delivering, so we'll focus on supporting children and

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Speaker 17: their families in the first two thousand days. Reducing child

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Speaker 17: material hardship will be our focus and also preventing harm

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Speaker 17: against children.

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Speaker 2: How much of it's about money and what you literally,

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Speaker 2: tangibly can do versus about skills, versus about willingness. No

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Speaker 2: matter what you do, some people can't be helped.

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Speaker 17: Well, there's a couple of things in that. The first

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Speaker 17: is the government needs to focus its efforts. If we

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Speaker 17: try to attempt too many things, we won't achieve anything.

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Speaker 17: So what this is doing is bringing a number of

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Speaker 17: ministers together and government departments and having a plan to

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Speaker 17: work across departments to get things done and to actually

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Speaker 17: focus our efforts where it matters the most. We do

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Speaker 17: know that we have to focus our investment where it

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Speaker 17: will make the biggest difference, and that's why we've prioritized

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Speaker 17: these three areas.

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Speaker 2: How much of it's your specific area because one of

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Speaker 2: the things you sprew because tax cuts now, tax cuts

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Speaker 2: are for most people. It's got nothing to do with

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Speaker 2: whether a kid does well in the first two thousand days.

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Speaker 2: How much of what you're doing is specific versus just

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Speaker 2: generalized government.

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Speaker 17: Well, there's what we've selected in the strategy is five

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Speaker 17: child poverty related indicators. So they're on school achievement, school attendance,

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Speaker 17: housing affordability, material hardship and the number of children and

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Speaker 17: benefit dependent households. So they're pretty clear areas of focus

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Speaker 17: that the government knows we can and will make a difference.

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Speaker 17: And that's how we improve the lives of the young

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Speaker 17: New Zealanders.

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Speaker 2: Without making it too political. Labor of course, had a

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Speaker 2: good crack at the old child poverty thing, and we

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Speaker 2: had a special Minister for that and they, as far

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Speaker 2: as I can work out, they made next to no

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Speaker 2: progress at all. Now you could argue that's because they

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Speaker 2: were useless. Have you tangibly and can you point to

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Speaker 2: material progress?

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 17: Well, if I look at what we managed to achieve

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Speaker 17: in the last National government, we lifted fifty six thousand

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Speaker 17: children out of material hardship. The years of the Labor

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Speaker 17: government increased it by four than one hundred. That's why

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Speaker 17: we have set a target for reducing material hardship. We

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Speaker 17: know what we need to do to do that. It's

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Speaker 17: around family boost it's around tax relief, helping families out

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Speaker 17: of emergency housing, all practical, tangible things that we know

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Speaker 17: will make a difference in the lives of children.

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Speaker 2: Will you be able to go to the next election

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Speaker 2: in twenty six with a campaign that at least in parts,

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Speaker 2: says here's what we did, here's how it's improved.

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Speaker 17: You want more of this absolutely, and that's why we

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Speaker 17: have simplified it. The Child and Youth Strategy launched today

1034
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Speaker 17: is much simpler. We've got a clear focus and we've

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Speaker 17: got a simpler method of measuring whether or not we

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Speaker 17: have achieved what we set out to achieve. I think

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Speaker 17: that's what New Zealand is good to seek.

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Speaker 2: All right, go well with it, Louise Upston, child Poverty

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Speaker 2: Reduction Minister. Is that eighteen minutes away from a task

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Speaker 2: game kind of like action?

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Speaker 9: To you?

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Speaker 2: Does that sound like more words? And I'll come back

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Speaker 2: to that. Aforementioned a piece this morning by Robert McCullough

1044
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Speaker 2: that you must read. It's got more specifically to do

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Speaker 2: with Nichola Willis, but there's a general theme there. Mike,

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Speaker 2: excuse me your comment on Adrian or a spot on

1047
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Speaker 2: what's happened to the much promised COVID inquiry. Haven't heard

1048
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Speaker 2: anything on its progress? Well you've got to listen a

1049
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Speaker 2: bit harder, Grant, because it is about the place to

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Speaker 2: be fair, it's ongoing. There's a two part deal. Part one,

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Speaker 2: Part two, Part one was previously underway from the other government.

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Speaker 2: Part number two was Brook van Velden who started a

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Speaker 2: second one, which was going to look into vaccine efficacy

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Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff that's not due out

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Speaker 2: until early twenty twenty six. And people who ask about

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Speaker 2: Adrian or Mike. I listened to you regularly and the

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Speaker 2: common theme across your topics about New Zealand, we're constantly

1058
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Speaker 2: late to the party. If it isn't immigration, it's not

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Speaker 2: acknowledging terrorist organizations, and it goes on what's happened to

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Speaker 2: us being a go ahead, leading the way sort of country.

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Speaker 2: It's a very good question, and I'll come back to

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Speaker 2: that in a couple of moments were you're seventeen minutes

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Speaker 2: away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Leadership is the answer to the Texas question leadership. What

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Speaker 2: has happened to this country? There's a lack of leadership,

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Speaker 2: and leadership is applicable in all forms of life, whether

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Speaker 2: or a parent. Leadership is the key if you buy

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Speaker 2: into leadership, and good leadership makes you believe anything is possible,

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Speaker 2: and that's what's been missing so badly in this country.

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Speaker 2: Robert McCullough, who's an academic for one of a better word,

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Speaker 2: very good piece. Finance Minister Nicola Willis report card. He

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Speaker 2: writes a report card, and in very simple terms, First,

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Speaker 2: our economy is stagnat, he points out, ranking near the

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Speaker 2: bottom of the one hundred and ninety countries that detract. Second,

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Speaker 2: although inflation is lower, it's been coming down around the

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Speaker 2: entire world, so you can't claim anything great. Third, Willis

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Speaker 2: is missing in action when it comes to breaking local

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Speaker 2: monopoly powers. Fourth, we held out hope that we would

1082
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Speaker 2: be a drastic reduction in red tape and regulation. However,

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Speaker 2: David Seymore's Department of Regulation has done next to nothing.

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Speaker 2: Fifth on taxation, national has no room to move. It's

1085
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 2: only tweaked the system, adjusting tax brackets to account for inflation.

1086
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: Willis has sent no clear message to the markets that

1087
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: hers as a government of low taxes. Sixth, on healthcare,

1088
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 2: Willis pretends that hiring Commissioner Lester Levy's reform. Seventh, the

1089
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: fiscal deficit will worsen under the current government unless the

1090
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: economy starts to rapidly pick up eighth housing once the

1091
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: propaganda script away. Nationals reforms off a less of an

1092
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: increase in supply and was going to happen under the

1093
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: bipartisan accord that the party signed up with Labour years ago. Ninth,

1094
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: Nationals trumpet at fast track approvals is nothing more than

1095
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: a rejigger the fast track approvals process. Labour an act

1096
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: to win an office.

1097
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Speaker 9: Tenth.

1098
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: Although Luxelon has been jumping around the world, the tide

1099
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: is turning against free trade and globalization. Big deals on

1100
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 2: that front are unlikely. More generally, Willis has already signaled

1101
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: what she represents, namely a surbil English type, steady as

1102
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 2: she goes, old style conservative nat Maybe it worked for him,

1103
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: it won't for her, and it won't work for the nation.

1104
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: It's a new world, new thinking is required. He fills

1105
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: that out. But it's a brilliant summation, and you know what,

1106
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: I border on agreeing with him. The only counter I

1107
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 2: would offer is that they've only been in power a

1108
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: year and you've got to give him a full term.

1109
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: So he might be jumping the gun a little bit,

1110
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: but it does go to the over arching theme I

1111
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: started earlier on this morning around people like Simming and Brown,

1112
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: and I guess Louise upstin to a greater or lesser degree.

1113
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: I mean, what is this thing that Louise is doing

1114
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: today with these three ideas? Will make children better, will

1115
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: make life better, the sun will come up in the morning.

1116
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: I mean whipped he doo mean, come on, after a year,

1117
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: is that all you've got? Simming and Brown? How many

1118
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: speeches ha is he given on road cones? How many

1119
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 2: times has he put out a press release on road

1120
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: cones and telling us it's too expensive and the cost

1121
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: as I are watering and something needs to be done.

1122
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 2: What's he done about it? Nothing? And so how many

1123
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 2: times does Luxon come on this program and gone rah

1124
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: rah rah rah trade deal raw rah right trade deal?

1125
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: What's actually happened? We know what's tangible. Mark Mitchell's delivered.

1126
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I think Erica Stanford's probably delivered

1127
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: or delivering in education, certainly, not in immigration, but in education.

1128
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: You can see the wheels moving there, but there's a

1129
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: lot of noise and there's not a trement. And his

1130
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: point about David Seaman, to be fair to David Seama,

1131
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: it's a brand new agency. I get all of that,

1132
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 2: and they're only hiring at the moment, but they haven't

1133
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: acted ually done anything. When's the doing start? Asks Robert.

1134
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: So that's well worth reading today. Tend to wait on

1135
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: my costing.

1136
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: Breakfast with the range rover of the line news towards

1137
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: they'd be as given away from a little bit of

1138
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: bankster around the place.

1139
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 2: Out of the opening, Netflix has opened to what they're

1140
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: calling in Australia and New Zealand office. Turns out it's

1141
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 2: probably more Australia than it is New Zealand. Our local

1142
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: office really just sort of an Australian office when it

1143
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 2: comes to local production. Are we a little bit out

1144
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: of luck? Have they forgotten about us? As the question

1145
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: being asked, the president of the Screen Production and Development

1146
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: Association are in gardners with us? How are you? Irene?

1147
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 14: I'm very well, thank you mate.

1148
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: Will you guys cognizant that Netflix were going to come local?

1149
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: Do they sort of you know, say hey, where we're coming,

1150
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 2: we're opening, we want to do business, do you need

1151
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: or they just.

1152
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 14: Sort of turn up, Well, they actually started having an

1153
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 14: Australian office a little while ago, just you know, feely,

1154
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 14: quietly it was suddenly Netflix Australia New Zealand. But it's

1155
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 14: been in the media a lot lately because they've launched

1156
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 14: the big Australian series Territory, and so there's been quite

1157
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 14: a lot of media coverage and you know it's Netflix

1158
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 14: A and Z this and Netflix A n Z there,

1159
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 14: And I'd have to say some of Spider's producer members

1160
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 14: have kind of gone about the n the bit of

1161
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 14: that Netflix said, because you know, obviously over the years Netflix,

1162
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 14: you know, international productions, some Netflix International productions have shot

1163
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 14: in New Zealand, which is great for them for our industry,

1164
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 14: and they've even bought the odd existing New Zealand show

1165
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 14: like The Casketeers. But in terms of actually commissioning a

1166
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 14: local production, which is of course what gives us intellectual

1167
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 14: property and export dollar and is a bit that's actually

1168
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 14: good for our economy. Not to mention culturalist, but but

1169
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 14: just nothing, just silence. It's like, yes, we're netflex A

1170
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 14: m Z. But and occasionally I even sort of safe

1171
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 14: things like oh but you said it's a nice place

1172
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 14: to shoot, but we're not just a nice place to

1173
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 14: shoot that you know that we're our service center for

1174
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 14: the problem. Actually make really good shows, many of it

1175
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 14: just grinning all around the world on our platform.

1176
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 2: Would we know that? And is that up to them

1177
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: to do something about it or is it up to

1178
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: us to do something about it and get in their ear?

1179
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 14: It's a little all of those things. They will know

1180
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 14: and it's probably slightly embarrassed. And they also know that

1181
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 14: we the Producer's Guild, have been lobbying for the international

1182
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 14: streamers to have to contribute to the news Deal unscreen

1183
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 14: ecosystem in somewhere because they've you know, they've broken the model.

1184
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 14: They've they've ruined the commercial revenue advertising model. It's making

1185
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 14: it really hard for us to make local shows and

1186
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 14: they know that. And there's lots of territories where they're

1187
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 14: being regulated, they're paying a levee whatever, and so we've

1188
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 14: been asking government, you know you get can you regulate them,

1189
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 14: Can they pay a levy, can they have a quote whatever?

1190
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 9: A levee would probably.

1191
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 14: Be simplest for New Zealand, but it would at least

1192
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 14: often the blow while we sort of work through all

1193
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 14: of those things, and.

1194
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: Is the government remotely interested in any of that because

1195
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: that whole you know, the digital build thing doesn't seem

1196
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: to be on there in front of their radio.

1197
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 14: That's the journalism, but we're slightly different than that.

1198
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is they don't seem overly keen on that.

1199
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: Are they keen on your idea or not?

1200
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 14: Really, we've had good indications that's certainly being looked at,

1201
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 14: it's being worked on. It's just that regulation takes ages

1202
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 14: and we're in a pretty tough spot in the meantime.

1203
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 14: So I guess what we're saying is, you know, you're

1204
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 14: a big commercial entity. You're not under any obligation currently,

1205
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 14: you have no regulation. But you know, if you don't

1206
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 14: call yourself Netflix, A and Z, could we have some

1207
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 14: of the zen.

1208
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: It's not fair? Well, then I re appreciate it very much.

1209
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: Ire In Gardner, who is with Spartan the spart of

1210
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: President four minutes away from it ascars. While we're on

1211
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: the subject of the media, just to give you once

1212
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 2: again comparison to Australia, I note yesterday they announced that

1213
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: the local news bulletin on the Gold Coast from seven

1214
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: new is going to be ending. As of tonight there

1215
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 2: will be the last bulletin. They've got a five thirty

1216
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: local Gold Coast news and that'll be the end of that.

1217
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: So you'll be able to nowadays, if you live on

1218
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: the Gold Coast, you'll be able to watch in our

1219
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: long seven afternoon news. Remember when we had afternoon news

1220
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: on television in this country from four pm. The Chase

1221
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: will be on at five. That's must watch viewing, isn't

1222
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 2: it in seven News Live at six o'clock? But no

1223
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: local Gold Coast bulletin. So what happens here happens there.

1224
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: In How It rolls Now, Jamie Oliver, a lovely bloke,

1225
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: hasn't been on for seven or eight years, so given

1226
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 2: he's in Australia, we thought we'd take the opportunity to

1227
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 2: look him up and bring him up and say come

1228
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: on the show. And because he's a nice bloke, he

1229
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: said yes, he's with us.

1230
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: Next Big News, Bold Opinions, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Vita,

1231
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News tog.

1232
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 9: Said, b.

1233
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: It is seven pas six and the Naked Shift did

1234
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: a lot of things to put Jamie Oliver on the map.

1235
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: Of course, we're a start went on to produce any

1236
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 2: number of cookbooks and empire of restaurants n recipes designed

1237
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 2: to be so simple that you can give them a

1238
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: crack at home without being a genius. It also sold

1239
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 2: the idea of the Frissian good doesn't have to be

1240
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: expensive or complicated. Jamie Oliver is beck with us good morning,

1241
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: lovely to be here, my friend. It's start with a

1242
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 2: big broad questions. I mean, twenty five years, for goodness sake,

1243
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 2: does it seem like that since Naked Ship?

1244
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 16: I mean it's starting to feel like that. I mean

1245
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 16: I think I had twenty years of it didn't feel

1246
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 16: like that. And I think finally I've become nostalgic and

1247
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 16: retrospective and.

1248
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: Feeling a bit older.

1249
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 16: And when I brush my teeth in the morning, I

1250
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 16: do say, who the bloody hell's that?

1251
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's a.

1252
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 16: It's funny thing time, isn't it. I think it's definitely

1253
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 16: gives you a perspective, And yeah, I start leaning towards

1254
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 16: experience and wisdom a little bit more than just enthusiasm.

1255
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: And what was your expectation? Do you remember in nineteen nine?

1256
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: I mean, what did you want? Nothing?

1257
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 16: I just was so grateful to be alive. I was

1258
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 16: so grateful to be like young and in London and exploring.

1259
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 2: I was so happy to have a job.

1260
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 16: When the Naked Chef happened, it was never planned. I

1261
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 16: was never even supposed to be there that day that

1262
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 16: they was. I was in the background of a documentary

1263
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 16: that and I wasn't even on the road to that day.

1264
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 16: Someone called him sick.

1265
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 2: I got lucky.

1266
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 10: I mean, I kind of.

1267
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 16: I was very confident in cooking. I've been cooking since

1268
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 16: an early age. But when the TV people, I knew

1269
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 16: nothing about production or TV. But I was very very

1270
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 16: clear that if I was going to do it, I

1271
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 16: wanted to do it on my terms, my food, my

1272
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 16: friends and family. I wanted it cut to the music

1273
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 16: that I listened to, not what the BBC library wanted

1274
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 16: me to listen to. And I don't know, somehow it

1275
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 16: tuned into a little moment, a little flavor, and it

1276
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 16: went massive around the world. And yeah, I mean I

1277
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 16: think I was so green and naive but just excited

1278
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 16: to just to be I never thought get to Australia.

1279
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 16: I never thought i'd get here. I just thought it

1280
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 16: was out of my reach. I came from a little

1281
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 16: village in Essex, so you know, pretty humble beginnings.

1282
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: Really, when did it sort of turn into a business

1283
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 2: and did that take away from what you were trying

1284
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: to do at any point?

1285
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 16: I think, like naturally, like you're working it out, so

1286
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 16: you know, you kind of you do a TV show

1287
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 16: that's kind of interesting, and then like you do a

1288
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 16: book and that exploded, and then you know quite early

1289
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 16: that the relationship with people through books was an interesting one.

1290
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 16: It was very, very pure one and to this day

1291
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 16: actually it's a very pure one if you think about

1292
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 16: the world we live in now, which is often driven

1293
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 16: by likes and comments and views, but they're all free, right,

1294
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 16: But a book sale is still a book sale. And

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Speaker 16: going to book signings and talking to people, you know,

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Speaker 16: I started to learn very quickly that it was more

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Speaker 16: than just recipes and a cooking show. It was you

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Speaker 16: know what it is, which is like food is the

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Speaker 16: biggest employer in the world, the biggest business in the world.

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Speaker 16: It's full of good but mainly the bad and the ugly,

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Speaker 16: and so yeah, that kind of just sent me down

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Speaker 16: a path. And yes, it became a business because I

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Speaker 16: guess when you start employing. As soon as I made money,

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Speaker 16: I started employing people and investing in people. And that's

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Speaker 16: probably one of the things I've done very well and

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Speaker 16: try to tell bigger stories and better stories, and yeah,

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Speaker 16: try try to do some stuff that had never been

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Speaker 16: done before. And yeah, so there's kind of a business element,

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Speaker 16: which was always a bit uncomfortable because business is business.

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Speaker 16: But also business allows you to invest in things and

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Speaker 16: employ people and bring congregate people that maybe never ever

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Speaker 16: Like if I took you to my office in Holloway,

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Speaker 16: I know for a fact, you'd be like bloody hell

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Speaker 16: like real experts in all kinds of geeky areas of

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Speaker 16: like science and environment and people that send stuff away

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Speaker 16: for analysis and do secret rerecords on factories and farms

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Speaker 16: and you know, documentary campaigns departments and government departments, and

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Speaker 16: you know, it's just like a there's a lot going

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Speaker 16: on under you know, there's a lot, quite a lot

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Speaker 16: of what I do the public don't really know about.

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Speaker 16: And it's just trying to be thorough about the stuff

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Speaker 16: I talk about in food.

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Speaker 2: Really Now, when you talk a lot, I'll come back

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Speaker 2: to the business in the mondment. But when you talked

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Speaker 2: about the campaigning side, but the school lunch program or

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Speaker 2: the you know, the school food program, I guess that's

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Speaker 2: the most famous.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, very very proud of it. I mean, I think

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Speaker 16: it's you know, when you're able to tell a story

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Speaker 16: about something that's run by the government and you look

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Speaker 16: at it in context to now and also when it

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Speaker 16: was created, which is at the beginning of the nineteenth century. Yeah,

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Speaker 16: we look at the government had one hundred and ninety

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Speaker 16: days of the year to get breakfast and lunch, right

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Speaker 16: in a country that's often cold and wet and damp,

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Speaker 16: and where you know, a fairly large proportion of those

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Speaker 16: kids are on free school lunches because they're from very,

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Speaker 16: very poor families, and there were no standards. There were

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Speaker 16: standards for dog food, but no standards for kid food.

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Speaker 16: So it's a really classic example of Britain's love for

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Speaker 16: dogs and sort of lack of detail when it comes

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Speaker 16: to nourishment of kids. And even to this day, I think,

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Speaker 16: like we we look at the education of food as

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Speaker 16: a luxury not a necessity, and I completely disagree. So

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Speaker 16: I just I always think that the best way to

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Speaker 16: learn maths is through baking, the best way to learn

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Speaker 16: history is through food, And I really I mean, I

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Speaker 16: you know, kids are not born genetically to love nuggets

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Speaker 16: and burgers.

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Speaker 2: It's called marketing.

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Speaker 16: So I just really truly believe that governments have a

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Speaker 16: I think government's job is to look at how the

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Speaker 16: world is constantly changing and then just kind of try

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Speaker 16: and create a fair playing field where people don't die

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Speaker 16: of stupid stuff.

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Speaker 15: And do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 16: Like people, you know, and whether it's Brits or Ozzie's,

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Speaker 16: you know, if you're some they'll say things like nanny state,

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Speaker 16: don't tell me what to do.

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Speaker 2: But you know.

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Speaker 16: When you kind of translate foody things into like a

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Speaker 16: seat belt or the type of rubber used to make

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Speaker 16: a tire on a bus that takes kids to school,

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Speaker 16: or the kind of rivets that are holding an aeroplane

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Speaker 16: up in the sky, you know, like standards and practices,

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Speaker 16: as boring as they might sound, are super important.

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Speaker 2: Yes they are. Let's mate hold on for a couple

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Speaker 2: of momes Jamie Oliver's our guests more shortly thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on Iheard Radio

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Speaker 1: powered by News.

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Speaker 2: Talks It be This Talks at Me sixteen past eight

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Speaker 2: gifts as Jamie Oliver, now listen to the business side

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Speaker 2: of the equation. So you use your celebrity as you

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Speaker 2: were telling us a moment ago before the break of

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Speaker 2: celebrity for success and good.

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Speaker 9: All of that.

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Speaker 2: When it went wrong, and it did go wrong there

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Speaker 2: for a while, what's that like.

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Speaker 16: I mean I've kind of I've I mean it's gone

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Speaker 16: wrong constantly throughout my career. I mean I think I

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Speaker 16: used to be about forty sixty like failure to success.

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Speaker 16: I think come about fifty to fifty nows. I mean

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Speaker 16: people call it being an entrepreneur. I always think that

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Speaker 16: just in my position with the with the information that

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Speaker 16: I get and the access I get, I'm always trying

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Speaker 16: to find new ways to communicate, like people having a

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Speaker 16: better relationship with food and through the realms of businesses.

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Speaker 16: And you know, I've set up some fascinating businesses and

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Speaker 16: food businesses that were really like either two years too early,

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Speaker 16: or like a year too late, or or just it

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Speaker 16: wasn't the right cocktail to work. I mean, every failure

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Speaker 16: has had it's little jewel that I've taken out and

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Speaker 16: turned into something else. But yeah, I mean, like certainly

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Speaker 16: when I lost the UK restaurants, that was a big one.

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Speaker 16: I mean, it's it's it's the worst. I mean, it's

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Speaker 16: it's kind of you at your most vulnerable. It's the worst.

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Speaker 16: And that's all the stuff like when certainly when you're

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Speaker 16: trying to work in between the press and things like that,

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Speaker 16: it's you know, making sure your suppliers are paid, and

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Speaker 16: like you might not be able to express that to

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Speaker 16: the press because there's stuff going on behind and not

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Speaker 16: behind the you know, because I'm a massive I've come

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Speaker 16: from a family business, you know, so you know people

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Speaker 16: that you know, I work with all the same supplies

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Speaker 16: and stuff now as I did when I lost the restaurants,

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Speaker 16: which is as I did for the last twenty years.

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Speaker 16: It's painful living out your failures in public. But I

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Speaker 16: think at the same time, you know, you've been doing

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Speaker 16: this long enough. Sometimes it's helped. Sometimes it's hindrance.

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Speaker 14: I think.

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Speaker 16: I think if your heart's in the right place and

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Speaker 16: I'm still young enough where I should have another go,

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Speaker 16: and it would be right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, for what it's worth. And I've always thought

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Speaker 2: authenticity is the key to it all. Authenticity is the

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Speaker 2: key to success generally in life. As far as I

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Speaker 2: can work out, people know you, they've seen you, You've

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Speaker 2: got a reputation and a record, and it all works

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Speaker 2: out well in the end. Doesn't it.

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Speaker 16: And I think, look, failure, failure is such an interesting

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Speaker 16: conversation doing the best version of bad and learning from

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Speaker 16: it and.

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Speaker 10: Coming back.

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Speaker 16: I think that's probably generally the spirit. I think I

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Speaker 16: always see the publishing as the center of my world

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Speaker 16: because I think when you're paying I don't know what

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Speaker 16: it is in dollars, but when you're buying a book,

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Speaker 16: my job is really to listen and then react every

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Speaker 16: year in the form of a book.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is London, by the way, it still the center

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Speaker 2: of the world for you in terms of culinary expression.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to make your name in

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Speaker 2: the culinary world, you've got to be in London and

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Speaker 2: nail it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: I think that London is definitely an amazing city. There

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Speaker 16: is something about London that has a sort of strange

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Speaker 16: halo around it, and I'm not quite sure what it is.

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Speaker 16: It's kind of like it's kind of impressive enough, but

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Speaker 16: gnarly enough. It's like rough and beautiful, and I think

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Speaker 16: I definitely think like London's a legit city. But saying that,

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Speaker 16: if my kid was a chef, I'd be telling them

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Speaker 16: to come to Sydney or Melbourne, So you know, it

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Speaker 16: kind of runs both ways. But I think also, you

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Speaker 16: know the benefit of London, of course is then you

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Speaker 16: within an hour and a half you can get to Portugal, Spain, France,

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Speaker 16: you know, the Nordics. It's like you know, so obviously

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Speaker 16: as you get more central, it's a bit more posha

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Speaker 16: and a bit more kind of like grown up.

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Speaker 2: But I love that about London.

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Speaker 16: And of course it's you know, ten million people and

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Speaker 16: hugely diverse and I'm still there four days a week.

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Speaker 2: No regrets, terrific stuff. Lovely to see you, Thank you mate,

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Speaker 2: look after yourself, will and go well. Jamie Oliver out

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Speaker 2: of in the Western world, you know, winning the war

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Speaker 2: slowly but surely, in terms of smoking, it's going backwards.

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Speaker 2: In China. It grows every year. The number of people

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Speaker 2: by twenty twenty eight. There are three hundred million Chinese

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Speaker 2: who smoke, so there's one point what is at one

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Speaker 2: point two one point three billion people, So close to

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Speaker 2: a quarter of the population in China smokes. By the way,

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Speaker 2: the Netflix thing more updates on the fight, the big

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Speaker 2: fight of the weekend. This is Tyson and Jake Paul.

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Speaker 2: He's got some Is it just general investment problems or

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Speaker 2: is it crypto? I think it's based around crypto. The

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Speaker 2: suggestion is he's been misleading people on his social media

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Speaker 2: channels about crypto I know it also, by the way

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Speaker 2: that Trump.

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Speaker 15: Apparently that's Logan Paul, not Jake Paul. I know, it's

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Speaker 15: hard to.

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Speaker 2: Keep the ti ah they separate as logo as.

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Speaker 15: I just assume that the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Because I can't remember which is the one I met

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles anyway.

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Speaker 15: I can't even remember which one was fighting Mike Tyson.

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Speaker 2: That's true. They probably can't either. Having said that.

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Speaker 15: Trump Sison certainly can't truth media truth.

1515
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 2: Social is looking to buy a crypto company at the

1516
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 2: moment as we speak. That's sent yet another fizz through

1517
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,839
Speaker 2: the crypto market that Trump, Trump's in favor of crypto,

1518
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 2: loves crypto. Assume somebody told them what crypto is, and

1519
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 2: so he's going to buy some.

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Speaker 15: News and they've got that phone working.

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01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:32,560
Speaker 4: That he was trying to pay for the drinks that

1522
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 4: the crypto bar could be with and that they couldn't

1523
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 4: get it going anyway.

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01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 2: One hundred and eight million global viewers on Netflix, and

1525
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 2: they need to get this right. So this was kind

1526
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 2: of a test. They both got ten figure paydays out

1527
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 2: of that, So who's the sucker here? Really? Honestly, they

1528
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 2: ten figure paydays for what for ponting around a ring

1529
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 2: for half an hour and ten million bucks past anyway,

1530
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,839
Speaker 2: but that is it, mate. They got the biggest sporting

1531
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 2: events screen ever in the history of streaming sporting events.

1532
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 2: What's important about that is Netflix have gone and won

1533
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 2: the bid to run Christmas Day National Football as an

1534
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: American football Christmas Day. They've not done that before. They

1535
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 2: were apparently on the boxing fight. There were glitches in

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Speaker 2: various parts of the world and it looked a bit ugly.

1537
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 2: So they need to tidy that up before Christmas Day

1538
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 2: because you boxing's one thing, or faux boxing is one thing,

1539
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 2: but football's a whole different. That's a religion and you

1540
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,560
Speaker 2: don't mess with Americans religion. News for you in a

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01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: couple of moments, and then we'll get you across to

1542
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 2: Britain and Rod little big defense spending cuts today and

1543
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: of course the farmers protest yesterday. Will get the update

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Speaker 2: on that after the news, which.

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Speaker 18: Is next for you, your trusted source for news and

1546
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Speaker 18: fews the mic Asking Breakfast with the Range Rover Villa

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Speaker 18: designed to intrigue and use togs dead Bus.

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Speaker 2: Cruise for your Villavy Residences two lev program. So this

1549
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 2: is basically for people who live in America who hate Trump,

1550
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: they don't know what to do about it. So you've

1551
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 2: got the ultimate one is the four year skip forward cruise.

1552
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 2: So in other words, you don't have to be in

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01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 2: America for four years, and you can go straight to

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01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight and hope for better times. Or the

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01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 2: other option, well, there's four options. There's the one year

1556
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 2: escape from reality cruise, the two year mid term selection,

1557
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 2: so by twenty twenty six, when they hold the mid terms,

1558
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 2: they might be able to flip a House or the

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01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 2: Senate or whatever back and maybe installed, you know, Trump

1560
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 2: becomes a bit lame duck. Third year is everywhere at home,

1561
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 2: but the four years the big one if you really

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01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: hate what happened in the election. Here's the interesting thing.

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01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: You're going to four hundred if you take the four

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01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: year deal. You're going to four hundred and twenty five

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01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 2: ports in one hundred and forty countries across all seven continents.

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01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 2: So in other words, you get to see pretty much

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01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 2: every part of the world that you'd ever want to see.

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01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 2: How much is this costing? I find it remarkably cheap,

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01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 2: which in and of it self must be a worry.

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01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 2: So the most expensive option is just the one year,

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01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 2: that's going to set you back forty nine thousand dollars

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01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 2: for the year. But you think about that, that's less

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01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 2: than a thousand dollars a week for seven days all inclusive.

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01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 2: I mean that's cheap, isn't it. And if you do

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01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 2: the four year, it's forty thousand dollars a year. So

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Speaker 2: I worked that out to be seven hundred and sixty

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01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 2: nine dollars a week. So it's seven hundred and sixty

1578
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 2: nine dollars a week. That's cheaper than your mortgage, cheaper

1579
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 2: than the rent. You save money. You can go on

1580
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 2: the cruise, escape Trump and save money.

1581
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 4: Is there I never ever have to hear from Tom

1582
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 4: cruise cruise.

1583
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 2: No, there wasn't one of those. Sorry about that, but

1584
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 2: they can think of the twenty two minutes.

1585
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 12: Away from nine International correspondence with ends an eye insurance,

1586
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 12: peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: We need to go to Britain. We're our very good between.

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Speaker 2: Ron Little's waiting for us, Roderic, good morning.

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Speaker 10: Good morning. I want to go on a cruise for

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01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 10: four years to get out of this labor government. Would

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Speaker 10: they back me on amongst all those lefties?

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01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 2: Well, no, I don't think they probably would. Rodrig Well,

1593
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 2: what about come to the defense and all that stuff.

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01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 2: In just a couple of moments. Last time we talked,

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01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 2: the Jeremy was rolling into town with his trector. How

1596
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 2: did that go? Was that bigger than you thought? All

1597
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 2: about the same size as you thought.

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Speaker 10: That's it's an issue. But I don't think as much

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Speaker 10: as I said, you know, a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 10: I don't think he has much resonance with the public.

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01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 10: They do love Jeremy Clarkson, no question about that. And

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01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 10: I talked to Chester this afternoon and he's still infuriated,

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01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 10: infuriated at the bias of the DBC and the way

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01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 10: it's reporting the farmer's protests, infuriated at what he sees

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01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 10: as a grave in justice being perpetrated against the farmers.

1606
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 10: But I think an awful lot of people, an awful

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01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 10: lot of voters, are looking at the facts on this,

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01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 10: and they're pretty straightforward. You know, if I sell my house,

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01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 10: I pay inheritance tax of forty percent on anything above

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01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 10: three hundred and fifty thousand quid. What the labor government

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01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,799
Speaker 10: is doing is suggesting very politely that perhaps the farmers

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Speaker 10: who have farms in excessive one million quid might be

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Speaker 10: a kind as to pay twenty percent inheritance tax. So

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Speaker 10: I just do not see this playing in terms of

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Speaker 10: electoral trouble for labor at all, and possibly quite the reverse.

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Speaker 10: That being said, there have been infuriated protests and the

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Speaker 10: right wing press over here, the Daily Mail, the Telegraphs

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Speaker 10: and so on are attacking the government for basically what

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Speaker 10: they're saying is changing the shape of the countryside forever,

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Speaker 10: which may happen. I guess that there is some argument

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Speaker 10: to be made that the shape of the countryside really

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Speaker 10: should be changed from the way it is now, which

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Speaker 10: is dictated by the farmers to us might be more

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Speaker 10: accessible program which which allows room for the other inhabitants

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Speaker 10: of Great Britain, such as you know, the mic states, reasons,

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Speaker 10: badges and so on, which which have suffered as a

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Speaker 10: consequence of pesticides.

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Speaker 9: And so on.

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Speaker 10: So it's I don't I stick to my comments from this.

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Speaker 10: I don't think this plays with the electorate.

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Speaker 2: How real was the the coverage of angel Rhina who's

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01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 2: standing in for Stama, who's at the G twenty, which

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01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 2: seems to have fizzed out completely. How real is the

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Speaker 2: suggestion that there's more inheritance text increases to come.

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Speaker 10: Oh, I think that's very real, and I think that

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Speaker 10: might be iniquitous. Even at the moment, it's forty percent

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Speaker 10: on anything above three hundred and fifty thousand quid, which

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Speaker 10: basically takes in an awfully large proportion of the population.

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01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,560
Speaker 10: You know, if I think the average cost of a

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Speaker 10: dwelling in this country at the moment is somewhere in

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Speaker 10: the region of three two five three four five, I

1642
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 10: haven't looked it up recently, so to round about the

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Speaker 10: average cost of a dwelling in this country, anything above

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Speaker 10: that your your clobt with forty percent of tax. And

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Speaker 10: I think that is going to be a problem somewhere

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Speaker 10: down the line for the lower middle class and the

1647
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 10: middle class voters who drifted over to labor the last

1648
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 10: general election to find out that they that when they

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Speaker 10: die and try to or try to get rid of

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01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 10: their houses, try to get rid of their estate, their

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01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 10: sons and daughters will be clobt with a massive tax rise.

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01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 10: And my suspicion is that the inheritance tax will go

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01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 10: up for ordinary people work us through.

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Speaker 2: I know that your your missilesman fired and Iran into

1655
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 2: not Iran, are Ukraine into into Russia river night. So

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01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 2: you've got that this announcement, this defense announcement, how much

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01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: of it's about basically decommissioning a bunch of old, rusted

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01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 2: junk and moving in into the good stuff. Versus the

1659
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Speaker 2: Tories who are telling us it's just a cat.

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Speaker 10: I think I tend towards the latter that it is

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01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 10: a cut that there is absolutely no question that the

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01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 10: Ministry of Defense of the British Army and the Navy

1663
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 10: in the Air Force need to modernize. They have paid

1664
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 10: scant attention to stuff like cybersecurity and to the kind

1665
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 10: of covert warfare which is being carried out against our

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01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 10: country and probably yours as well, Mike, on a daily basis,

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01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 10: And that some of our stuff, I mean, we recently

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01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 10: built a couple of aircraft carriers. I'm not sure that

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01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 10: that's the cutting edge of technology anymore, you know. So

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01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 10: I think we've been behind the curve on what we're

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01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 10: deciding to do with our armed forces, and really at

1672
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 10: a time, you know, we always say that old mantra

1673
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 10: that the government's first job is to protect its people.

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01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 10: This is probably the most dangerous time. I'm pretty sure

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01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 10: it is since maybe nineteen eighty five, you know it,

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01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 10: before Gorbatshov got into power. This is probably the most

1677
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,799
Speaker 10: dangerous and freebale time we've had. We've got a Latimie

1678
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 10: put In waving nuclear weapons that us every day, which

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01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 10: it does for show and grandstanding, sure, but underneath that

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01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 10: there is the real threat. And of course China with

1681
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 10: with with Taiwan.

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01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 12: So to.

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Speaker 10: What what labors should have done and which would have

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01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 10: which would have cheered everybody up and perhaps put them

1685
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 10: back on side with the USA was raised the amount

1686
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Speaker 10: we spend on defense up to about three point five percent.

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01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 10: That would that would seem to be in order with

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Speaker 10: the countries which are at the sharp end, such as Poland, Finland, Sweden, Norway,

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01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 10: one of which one of those countries. I think it's

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Speaker 10: that Finns have been handing out iodlene tablets to people

1691
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 10: being say fear and nuclear war.

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Speaker 2: Good only you have a good week. Can we'll catch

1693
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 2: up Tuesday Rod a little Tuesdays and Thursdays only on

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Speaker 2: That be one thing I must ask the Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: send me note this one down as well. The Great

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01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 2: there's a claim. Didn't have time to talk to Rod

1700
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 2: to Rod about it. But the winter fuel cut in

1701
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 2: their part of the world's going to put fifty thousand

1702
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: people into poverty next year, or so is the claim.

1703
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 2: So as part of the budget, Labour said, we're very

1704
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 2: unlabour thing to do that. You know, we simply can't

1705
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 2: afford to give everybody a winter heating payment, so it's

1706
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 2: only the people who most need it will do it.

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01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 2: Now we have a winter heating payment in this country,

1708
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 2: of course, and it's given to everybody over sixty five

1709
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 2: unless you want to opt out of it, and of

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01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 2: course most people don't opt out of it because they

1711
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 2: can't be bothered. And to a degree, I suppose if

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01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 2: you don't need it, you're a hypocrite in taking money

1713
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 2: that you don't need in a country in a time

1714
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 2: when we don't have any money anyway. So the argument is,

1715
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 2: and every time I've asked Prime Minister or a Minister

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01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 2: of finance, why is it, we don't means test that

1717
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: if you insist on handing out money for heaters, why

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01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: don't we means test that they've always argued it's too complex,

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01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 2: too complicated, they can't do. It's far easier just to

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Speaker 2: hand it out to everybody. So the question then, of course,

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Speaker 2: is how is the Brits can do it but we

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Speaker 2: allegedly can't. And maybe part of the answer is that

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Speaker 2: this has contained in a Treasury report I'm reading about

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Speaker 2: this morning, the latest quarterly investment update from Treasury for

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Speaker 2: the June quarter. There's one hundred. In other words, we're

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Speaker 2: basically what they're saying is we can't build stuff properly,

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Speaker 2: which I think we already knew. It just confirms it.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and seventy five investments in planning an estimated

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Speaker 2: value of seventy nine billion dollars. One hundred and ninety

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Speaker 2: eight investments reported in delivery delivery budget of eighty five billion.

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Speaker 2: The investments in delivery, the agencies are reporting a two

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Speaker 2: point one billion dollar worth of cost pressure. Almost half

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Speaker 2: of the delivery portfolio is experiencing delays. So, in other words,

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Speaker 2: virtually everything the government does is either delayed and or

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Speaker 2: costs more than they thought. Just fifty four percent, let's

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Speaker 2: say half of the investments were tracking to their original

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01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 2: timeframes just half. So imagine if you reign your life

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Speaker 2: that way. So you've got a budget, you know how

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01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 2: much money is coming in, you know what you're going

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Speaker 2: to spend, you know what you want to spend, you

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Speaker 2: know what you've agreed to spend. But half the time

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Speaker 2: it doesn't work out that way. Yeah, you'd be giving

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Speaker 2: yourself a kick up the jackson, wouldn't you. The value

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Speaker 2: of investments in planning was reducing, also substantially. It's going

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01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 2: from one hundred and forty seven billion last year to

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Speaker 2: seventy nine billion in twenty twenty four end quarter Q

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Speaker 2: four of twenty twenty four, So from one forty seven

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Speaker 2: to seventy nine, that's a big drop. Critically, they say

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Speaker 2: the way agencies were planning their capital investments, government agencies

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01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 2: showed quote poor adherence to planning expectations, with many rushing

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01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 2: the early stages of planning. The question, surely is why

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01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: why do we still have this problem? Then again I

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01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 2: asked the same question I did earlier, how come we

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01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 2: haven't done the road comes yet? Nine away from nine The.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking breakfast with al Vida Retirement Communities News togs

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Speaker 1: had been.

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Speaker 2: Now for Bailey's real Estate being altogether better. You know

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Speaker 2: what that means, Being your trusted partner in every corner

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Speaker 2: of the property sector, That's what that means. And they've

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Speaker 2: worked super hard to build this trust. It is backed

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Speaker 2: of course, by proven results in a commitment to doing

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Speaker 2: things differently, and they do it across residential, commercial, rural,

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Speaker 2: and property services. Are proudly one hundred percent KEI we own.

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Speaker 2: That's critical locally operated as well. Even more critical where

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Speaker 2: the national network of more than two thousand real estate

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Speaker 2: professionals got one hundred branches nationwide. They got boots on

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Speaker 2: the ground across the country. They've made it their business

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Speaker 2: to add value to yours and they do that with

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Speaker 2: integrity and a depth of knowledge no matter where in

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Speaker 2: the country you are. So Bailey's has been the leader

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Speaker 2: in real estate to innovation and since nineteen seventy three

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Speaker 2: they've gone and focused on people centric solutions while providing

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Speaker 2: unmatched expertise, relentless professionalism, wrap around support that nets optimal

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Speaker 2: results time after time. That, my friends, is the Baylee's

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Speaker 2: difference all together better for all of New Zealand, with

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Speaker 2: no plans to stop. You deal with the best when

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Speaker 2: you deal with Bailey's Hosking Travel Tuesday, so Black Friday,

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Speaker 2: Cyber Monday, Travel Tuesday. There's an AX Trendex survey that

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01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 2: says for Christmas, what people want is an experience, and

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Speaker 2: that Jamie Oliver thing earlier on. By the way, I

1781
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 2: told you the story the other day he sold his cow,

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Speaker 2: one of his cars. The other day sold a Ford Capri,

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Speaker 2: a mark one Ford Capri, and I said, why do

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Speaker 2: you sell it? And he goes, I'm just I'm over stuff.

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01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 2: Don't need stuff. Stuff. You get to a certain age,

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Speaker 2: certain time of life, you don't want stuff, and that

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Speaker 2: is reflected. I guess, and this, what do you want

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Speaker 2: for Christmas? What I want is travel? And you organize travel.

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Speaker 2: People want experiences, they want to be able to feel

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Speaker 2: and embrace life. Five minutes away from nine trending.

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Speaker 1: Now we have Chemist Warehouse, Stop paying too much.

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Speaker 2: New Seth Rogan television program. I happened to have seen

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Speaker 2: it by accident yesterday. I don't know how I jumped

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01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:47,799
Speaker 2: on in front of something. Anyway. It's called the studio,

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01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 2: so Seth Rogan. He's an embattled movie studio boss as

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Speaker 2: movies struggled to stay alive and relevant.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: I got into this because you know I love movies.

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Speaker 2: But now I have this smear that my job is

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Speaker 2: for ruined. I've said a job as a track. Everybody's

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Speaker 2: start to say the Continental. We don't make artsy, artzy films.

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Speaker 6: We make movies, movies.

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Speaker 15: Being the head of Continental is the only job I've

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Speaker 15: ever wanted.

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Speaker 12: It's just so much harder than I thought.

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Speaker 2: It was going to be a mindless what if.

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Speaker 9: Why wouldn't you have no one likes you.

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Speaker 11: I'm here to dave your career, help me help you.

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Speaker 9: You'll make a great studio.

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Speaker 2: Now here's the problem. I saw that and I thought,

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Speaker 2: what utter utter crap. And it's one of those movies

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Speaker 2: that you want actually to be quite good. And it

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Speaker 2: may well be that it is quite good. Because he wrote, directed,

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Speaker 2: executive produced, and starred in it. Catherine O'Hara is in it,

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01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 2: she's fabulous. Brian Crinston's in it, He's fabulous. You've got

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Speaker 2: cameos from Charlie's then Anthony Mackie, Martin Scorsese, Zach Efron,

1817
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Speaker 2: Paul Darno, Zoey Krabitz, and a whole bunch of others.

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Speaker 2: So it's got the goods.

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Speaker 4: So is that then so did Platonic, which was his

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Speaker 4: other TV show that was on Apple TV, and that

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Speaker 4: was he was in rose Boone.

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Speaker 15: I made it through an episode and a half.

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01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 2: It was like, it's all right, anyway, here's the next

1824
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 2: bit of bad news. It's on Apple TV, which is

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01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 2: not bad news, but it doesn't come out until March

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Speaker 2: twenty six, so you know, mark that in your diary.

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Speaker 2: Back tomorrow morning. On the mic host Arst there's always

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