1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Jaguar f base cut 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: from a different class News talks. 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 3: Eddy Molly welcome today aut and their race based travel 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 3: funded Whether the Minister can do anything about it, She's 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 3: with us. Nicola Willis on the economy and it's backwards trajectory. 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 3: We've got a vaccine they call the Holy Grail. Changes 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 3: coming to jury trials. Will Jordan on the Rugby the 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 3: Week with Tim and Katie Richard Ardel Murray Olds did 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 3: the business as well. 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Posky. 12 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: We're into wet seven past six. What I would like 13 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: out of the Polkinghorn trial is access to the jury. 14 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: This country has an archaic and sheltered view of certain 15 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 3: aspects of justice. As far as I'm concerned, if you 16 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 3: believe justice has to be seen to be done, it 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 3: behooves us to fully understand the process. By the way, 18 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: I've had virtually no interest in this trial. I have 19 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 3: no real overarching interest in crime generally. I did get 20 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: fascinated many years ago by the baying business, but Polkinghorn 21 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: has passed me by. He either did it or he didn't. 22 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: The jury's working that out as we speak. A change 23 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: I have noticed in particular this time, and it confirms 24 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: my lack of interest in matters makes me part of 25 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: a very, very very small minority, is the blogging that 26 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 3: has gone on from court from the digital media. See 27 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: your criticism I've always had about media coverage of court 28 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: in this country is mainly their cherry pickers and mainly formats, 29 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: particularly the news bulletins, never gives fair insight into daily proceedings. 30 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: See this time it's been no different. TV seems to 31 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: have come and gone on a slow day, they cover 32 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: it on a busy day. They don't having been in 33 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: court enough over the years. The tricky part is how 34 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: slowly it all moves, and therefore it is easy for 35 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: the media to miss a lot of detail, not to 36 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: mention subtlety and nuance. If you can't cover it properly, 37 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: don't is my rule of thumb, which is where the 38 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: digital operators have been able to give you all the 39 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 3: blow by blow detail you could ever want, and from 40 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: my inquiries it's been absorbed vociferously by most of the population. 41 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: But back to the jury. In America, you get to 42 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: talk to them, why not here? Surely in a trial 43 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: of this detail and interest. Knowing what they thought or 44 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: didn't think, what they make out as critical or of 45 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: no consequence, is not only fascinating but vital to understanding 46 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: as to how we got to where we're about to 47 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: get open justice. Seeing it, we're getting the detail from 48 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: those closest to it. Surely you can't argue that wouldn't 49 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: improve the process. Therefore our understanding and how possibly is 50 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: that a bad thing? 51 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds. 52 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: All art is far from ober as regards the exploding electronics. 53 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 4: This kind of criminal action or act, is it big operation? 54 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 5: Is it a genocide? It is a massacre Israel. 55 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: We still haven't admitted anything. They're on the offensive. 56 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 6: Israel is responding with force to this aggression by Fisbellah. 57 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 6: We will use all means necessary to restore security to 58 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 6: our northern border and to safely return our citizens to 59 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 6: their homes. 60 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: Parolder Anthony Blinkn is racking up yet more rare mile 61 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 3: saying yet more of the same stuff. 62 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 7: The population in both northern Israel and southern Lebanine US 63 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 7: have to flee their homes, and we don't want to 64 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 7: see them be able to go back to their homes 65 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 7: and that requires a secure environment. 66 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: Meantime, the former UK ambassador to leven On makes a plea, you. 67 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 8: Know the ingenuity of humans to find new ways to 68 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 8: kill each other, it becomes more important to uphold international law. 69 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 8: And just because the weapons are changing fast, it doesn't 70 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 8: mean the rules are changing fast. 71 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 5: The rules stay the same. Don't kill civilians. 72 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 3: Then, stateside a lot of reaction to the teams, to 73 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: the Union who normally signed with the DMS. Of course 74 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: this time they haven't. 75 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 9: No endorsement, I think sends a message to both parties 76 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 9: that if they truly want to support working people, they 77 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 9: have to reevaluate it and understand that nothing is given 78 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 9: it has earned. 79 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: Trump sees the non endorsement, by the way, as some 80 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: sort of positive not his way. He was in New 81 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: York saying stuff that isn't true. 82 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 10: The reason I'm here is because hasn't been done in 83 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 10: many decades. It hasn't been done for a long time. 84 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 10: But we are going to win New York. 85 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: No, it's not sixty thirty seven last time run. Finally, 86 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: a bloke, let's call him a Nutter who's in a 87 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: fantasy football league, went too far with one of his opponents, 88 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: so the competitor in Matthew Gabriel's league. He was off 89 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: to Norway to study. Gabriel gave authority's a fake tip 90 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: off that this guy was actually going to Norway to 91 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: commit a mass shooting at a concert and a department 92 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: store that way. The man would then be detained and 93 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: not able to make his updates in this fantasy football team. 94 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: Norway police and the FBI committed five days and hundreds 95 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: of hours to be ensuing investigation before Matthew admitted that 96 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 3: it was in fact made up. He's now pleaded guilty 97 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 3: two two Council of Interstate and Foreign Communication the threats 98 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: and faces up to five years in jail. That is 99 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: the news of the world. In mons in ninety second 100 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: Bank of England Central Bank week, Bank of England hold 101 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 3: eight one. The one said twenty five point cut. It 102 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: was a more decisive and more hawkish boat than many 103 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: people expected. What a week it's been, twelve past six. 104 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: Just looking at a poll, brand new one out of America. 105 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: I'll give you the numbers in just a couple of moments. 106 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: Speaking of which, a couple of things too. If you 107 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 3: followed these sort of things, Sri Lanka is voting tomorrow, 108 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: pivotal Cashmere the region. They haven't had a vote for ages. 109 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: I think it's about a decade. They've got a sort 110 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: of a rolling mall in an election. Some of it's 111 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: underway and it will end at the end of September. 112 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: So a couple of things to keep an eye on. 113 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 3: Fifteen past six, Now break it from day my wealth 114 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: Andrew Kellaha, good morning, very good morning mate. We're said 115 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: point four. Most people said point four, The Reserve Bank 116 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: said point five. So point two is better than we thought. 117 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: I guess, oh that is right. 118 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 11: I mean yesterday morning we spoke immediately after the FED 119 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 11: sort of fifty basis point move, but we had the 120 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 11: double whammy yesterday, didn't We went around and then wait 121 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 11: and eagerly anticipate the release of Q two GDP. I 122 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 11: thought that consensus call of minus point four was on 123 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 11: the money. As it turned out, that was a little pessimistic. 124 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 11: The actual outs and as you say, it was minusserrah 125 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 11: point two. It's an interesting illustration, isn't it, expectations versus reality, 126 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 11: because still a negative outcome, but it seemed good because 127 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 11: it wasn't as bad as expected. And so let's acknowledge 128 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 11: that though because better that growth wasn't as weak as 129 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 11: expected versus the alternative. Unfortunately, to throw a little water 130 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 11: on any kind of nascent celebrations out there. When you 131 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 11: look at the annual growth the OUTO here's. 132 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: Zero point five. 133 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 11: Now the RB and ZRA forecasting minus zero point seven, 134 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 11: there's not really much difference there. 135 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: When we look at it on a. 136 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 11: Longer term basis, GDP per capita continues to be very weak. 137 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 11: Fell zero point five quarter on quarter, now two point 138 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 11: seven percent lower versus a year ago. That's an ugly number. So, 139 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 11: you know, a growing population was sort of a key 140 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,119 Speaker 11: contribute to a sort of a tailwind to whatever growth 141 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 11: we did get, and that impulse, as we know, is 142 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 11: now abaiting, so it now becomes a headwind. You know, 143 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 11: mikel I'm quietly optimistic about the agri sector, but it 144 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 11: didn't really help in the second quarter. For the second 145 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 11: quarter growth figure, forestry and logging activity we're weak, and well, 146 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 11: we saw prices lifting elsewhere. There's a volume issues, so 147 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 11: we exported less on a positive note, and it's been 148 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 11: highlighted sort of over the last twenty four hours. Manufacturing 149 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 11: surprisingly actually delivered a positive contribution to Q two GDP. 150 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 5: I don't know if that will be sustained. 151 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 11: You had a sort of a rebirth of activity in 152 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 11: the Hawk's Bay which helped out that Q two. I 153 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 11: think it was one point nine percent lift. I'm not 154 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 11: sure that's going to be sustained. 155 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 5: What is it all mean, Mike, wasn't all mean? 156 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: Well? 157 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 11: Economic activity in New Zealanders still subdued. As the word 158 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 11: that's being used, that's a bit of a euphemism. Stagnant 159 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 11: is probably a better word. Demand was soft, and the 160 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 11: outcome of that sort of weaker demand as evident in 161 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 11: the amount of activity that you see recorded across the 162 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 11: board in the GDP figure. Will it be the low point? 163 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 11: I'm not sure. We've got to wait and see that, 164 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 11: but recovery will be slow. What are the implications for 165 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 11: the RB and Z Well, you'd say the outcome is 166 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 11: consistent with their big picture of you that spere capacity 167 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 11: is increasing. It's probably consistent with the disinflation trend, and 168 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 11: also so I think it's consistent with the requirement to 169 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 11: reduce the restrictive stance of monetary policy. The ocr is 170 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 11: too high? 171 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 5: Does it inform us? 172 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 11: Does it give us any wisdom over whether we get 173 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 11: a twenty five or a fifty point move next, are 174 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 11: not really okay? 175 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: Then we come to the all the downs up at 176 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: the moment. Are we liking what happened yesterday? We still 177 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: don't know. Yeah, no, I think so. 178 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 11: I said yesterday morning that we needed to give the 179 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 11: markets a little more time, and we spoke at sort 180 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 11: of quarter past six, and the thing had come out 181 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 11: at six. I said, the market's going to take a 182 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 11: little time to digest that, and the response has. 183 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 3: Been sort of quite volatile. 184 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 5: Where are we now? 185 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 11: Will share markets shared the news? Eventually? US markets when 186 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 11: we spoke, they went up, they went down through our 187 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 11: daylight hours, the futures markets rallied, and overnight you've seen 188 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 11: a positive endorsement for US markets. One of the difficulties 189 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 11: now in interpreting the future moves Mike and the press conference, 190 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 11: Powell said, there is no set path for future moves. 191 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 11: It is data dependent. So we've now got to sit 192 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 11: and wait for the data to come out. The debate 193 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 11: now moves in the US and not dissimilar to here 194 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 11: and everyone else to where the terminal rate is? 195 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 5: Where does the rate end up? Now? 196 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 11: The FED is indicating a slightly higher terminal rate than 197 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 11: the market's expecting. There's not much in it if I 198 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 11: look at short term rates and we go to the 199 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 11: rates that are most sort of I suppose, the most 200 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 11: reactive to this, and look at say a US two 201 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 11: year government bond, are very choppy trading. It fell straight away, 202 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 11: as you'd expect, but then it bounced back. It's now 203 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 11: settled pretty much where it was two days ago, which 204 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 11: indicates the market was actually expecting or pricing in this 205 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 11: sort of least position for it. Longer term rates, Mike, 206 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 11: they're actually higher, So the interest rates actually higher in 207 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 11: the US. After that move, interest rates here in New 208 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 11: Zealand they bounced around a bit, but ended up also 209 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 11: pretty much where they started. The currency went on a 210 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 11: bit of a joy ride. It went up, it went 211 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 11: down back up, its settled a little bit higher. 212 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 5: Now. 213 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 11: The question that's been asked over the last day make 214 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 11: does it embolden the rbn Z to go fifty basis points? Well, 215 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 11: I think they've got to see ends at IQSBO got 216 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 11: to see. 217 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 5: The labor duart of the CPI data. 218 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 11: They could front load the cuts they've been talking about 219 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 11: doing that, so they've got two opportunities. They've got October 220 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 11: and November, then a big gap to February. If they 221 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 11: want to deliver seventy five basis points before Christmas, it's 222 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 11: simple maths. This is one of those one of those 223 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 11: occasions they have to go fifty. 224 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 3: All right, let's see what happens. 225 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 11: What are the numbers, Well, they're all yeah, it's a 226 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 11: sea of green, a sea of green out there. So 227 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 11: the Dow Jones is up five hundred and thirty two 228 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 11: points as we speak. That's a one point two eight 229 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 11: move forty two. 230 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 5: Thousand and thirty five. 231 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 11: The S and P five hundred is up over two 232 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 11: percent five seven three zero, and the Nasdaq up was 233 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 11: some more, was three percent early on now two point 234 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 11: seven percent eighteen thousand and forty eight. 235 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: So they're loving it. 236 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 11: The Forts one hundred up point nine one overnight eight 237 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 11: three two eight, the Nike up over two percent three 238 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 11: seven one five five, The Shanghai competed up points sixty 239 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 11: nine percent two seven three six. 240 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 5: The aussis we're slightly more muted here. 241 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 11: The Aussies were uper point six one percent eighty one 242 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 11: nine one. The ins ofex fifty up point sixty two 243 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 11: twelve six hundred and sixty five point sixty two four 244 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 11: eight on the Kiwi point nine one five seven point 245 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 11: five to five nine one euro point four to seven 246 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 11: h six pounds eighty nine point three to three against 247 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 11: the Japanese and gold still holding up their two thousand, 248 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 11: five hundred and ninety years dollars. And unfortunately that that 249 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 11: flirtation under seventy bucks merely really was that. Brentcer is 250 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 11: now back at almost seventy five dollars seventy four eighty two. 251 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: Go, well, that's we ken, We'll see you next week. 252 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 3: Andrew Kella jmiwal dot co dot m Z tasking Poka Cola. 253 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: I know her. I'm doing business with Bcardi. They're looking 254 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: at some This is this pre mixed cocktail Bollock, big, big, big, 255 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: tone it down, Glynn. 256 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 12: This pre mix kite you're excited about. Premix con last. 257 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:45,359 Speaker 3: Year grew twenty seven percent to three billion US dollars. 258 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: Spirits genuinely are where it's at. They beat out these days. 259 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 3: Spirits beats wine and beer for the second straight year. 260 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: Vodka is your top of your pile. Vodka is a 261 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 3: sixteen billion dollar proposition in the us alone. 262 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 12: Doing Bacardian coke. 263 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 3: Now that's what I'm saying. I said, Bacardian co Yeah, 264 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: it's disgusting and needs to stop. It's almost as bad 265 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: as Pizza Hut eating all you can eat. Six twenty 266 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 3: two US talks. That'd be Fox poll fresh out this morning, 267 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: September thirteenth through sixteen. So their new numbers are three 268 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: point swing. Trump was leading by one. He's lost at 269 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: Harris now fifty to forty eight. These are nationwide figures. 270 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: Of course, first time Harris has hit fifty percent support, 271 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: So that's material. I would have thought six twenty five. 272 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: Trending now, Queen the Chemist Warehouse is the home of 273 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 2: big brand fighters. 274 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: Every time Bong Jun hu back won on Oscar four 275 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: years ago parasite, then he vanished. Anyway, He's got his 276 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: latest out, dark comedy called Mickey seventeen about a bloker 277 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 3: gets cleaned over and over and over so he can 278 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: go on the dangerous missions. Doesn't really matter if he dies. 279 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 10: I wouldn't be surprised if you were thinking at this point, 280 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 10: what have I done? 281 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 13: Oh? 282 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 14: Can you go? 283 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 4: One? 284 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 5: Guards? 285 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 15: Nothing was working out and I want to get off 286 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 15: of her. 287 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: You're planning to be inexpendable. 288 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 16: Yeah, you read through the whole application. 289 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 14: Is that a kicking? 290 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 13: I should have read through it. 291 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: Once you die, we'll print a new version of your body. 292 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: Biggie, start looking very good for you. 293 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you're used to it by. 294 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 3: Now, but what's if you like to die? 295 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 17: You did multiples In the case of multiples, yes, just 296 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 17: like you exterminate every individuals. 297 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 3: To Rugby precision and we'll just shoot the Robert Pattinson 298 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 3: Ruffalo's in there. Stephen Yun Do I know him of 299 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: beef fame? Tony Koalitz certainly know her budget of one 300 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million, have no idea how they spent there, 301 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: mind you. The same applicable to the show thirty first 302 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: of January as well, when you'll find that TGI Fridays 303 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: here ago I went once I thought it was bollocks, 304 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: So I'm not surprised to see it's gone into administration 305 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: in Britain. Very sad. Four and a half thousand jobs 306 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: total of eighty seven of the Change restaurant is going 307 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: to be put up for sale, even if they've got 308 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: a seller, which they think they might have, whatever they 309 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: sell it for is less than what they owe. Once 310 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: upon a time, it was a trendsever apparently selling American 311 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: food beyond the burger and offering a really great night out. 312 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: So you know that where he wasn't true news for you. 313 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: In a couple of moments, Kenny Simmons tertiary minister on 314 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: this business of aut and this race based policy. Are 315 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: they going to be able to fix that or not? 316 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: It's after the news, which is next to a news talk, zenb. 317 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: You're trusted home the news for entertainment's opinion and fighting 318 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: the my Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate your local 319 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: experts across residential, commercial and rural us tog eNB. 320 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: Well, he, Mike, did you say in Zebney spends one 321 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million on your show? Absolutely worth it. 322 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: I'll take that any time over stupid bike lanes, Meet too, mate, 323 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: twenty three minutes away from seven. We'll get you to 324 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: Richard Arnold Stateside shortly back here? Where are we at 325 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: with the aut racist policy of handing out a better 326 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 3: travel deal for employee who happen to be Mario Pacifica 327 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: in requesting travel costs? What happens? As I've told you 328 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: throughout the week you fill in a form. If you 329 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: happen to be the right race, you get extra points. 330 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: This of course goes against the government that issued this 331 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: time last week that explicitly states race should not be 332 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: a part of decision making. Tertiary Minister Penny Simmons is 333 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: with us on this morning to you good morning. Right now. 334 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: They defend it, don't they? 335 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 16: Yes, they do, and look they have an absolute right 336 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 16: to defend it, and the Education and Training at twenty 337 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 16: twenty gives them that independence and that autonomy to make 338 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 16: those decisions, so that is very clear. I can't direct 339 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 16: them to take notice of the cabinet circular or the 340 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 16: intent in it. I can only draw it to their attention. Look, 341 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 16: I think and I've spoken with the Vice chancellor the datement, 342 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 16: and I think that aut have got some good rationale 343 00:15:54,760 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 16: behind this decision. And they are a very new university. 344 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 16: They have a very high proportion to Mati and Pacifica students. 345 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 16: Their proportionality of staff is not near as high as 346 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 16: their student ratio, and also they are trying to build 347 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 16: up the research capability of their Mary and Pacifica staff. 348 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 16: So you know, I've had a good discussion there. I think, though, Mike, 349 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 16: what I'm more worried about is this wider issue across 350 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 16: all universities around the robustness of their decision making. So 351 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 16: universities have got various layers in their decision making processes, 352 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 16: committees and boards and senates, and I'm seeing numerous surveys 353 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 16: and reports and feedback about the constraints on the ability 354 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 16: of academic staff to give their opinion freely in this 355 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 16: decision making. 356 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: Well, well, that's all part of it, isn't And that's 357 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: the problem. David seymore by the way it was on 358 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: the program yesterday, he did point out that the circular 359 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: that came out from Cabinet last week did it exclude 360 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: university So I fully understand that. Did you express in 361 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: a way that they would understand at the very least 362 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: the government's view on these matters generally, therefore putting your 363 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: side of the case across or were you a bit 364 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 3: weak willed? Penny? 365 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 16: Now, I'm going to write to all the universities drawing 366 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 16: their attention to the circular and the intent behind the circular. 367 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 16: So I'll acknowledge, of course, their autonomy, but I want 368 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 16: to draw the attention to there, but more than that, 369 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 16: like I'm going to draw their attention to their decision 370 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 16: making process and ask them to reflect on how robust 371 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 16: it is. Because of this is where I think the 372 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 16: issue is. It's staff not having that ability to speak freely. 373 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: And so that's what a university is, isn't it? Or 374 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 3: supposed to be. 375 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 16: Yes, it should be. And so there are decisions being made. 376 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 16: The recent run about Auckland University having the compulsory course 377 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 16: on Chalmardi and the treaty you speak of. 378 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: Why Papa tole Marta row I do? 379 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: I do? 380 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 16: And so I think it is really important to go 381 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 16: back that step and look at their decision making process 382 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 16: because while we used to grumble about how slow and 383 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 16: cumbersome that made, the decision making process that should be 384 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 16: where the widowing out of ideas takes place. And so 385 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 16: that's where I think there is an issue. I'm also 386 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 16: going to Sir Peter Gluckman in his review and his 387 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 16: panel to have a look at these processes and dig 388 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 16: into more whether we are getting the robustness that we 389 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 16: need and the freedom of speech within those processes. 390 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: Well, we discovered the other day in our family this 391 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: why Papa tol marta Ry. We didn't have any idea 392 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: that this was compulsory. We didn't think that compulsory anything 393 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: at university was the way universities worked. We were shocked 394 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 3: at what we discovered at that. They claim it gets 395 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: you ready for life. Do you think it gets you 396 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: ready for life? 397 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 16: Pens Look, I haven't seen the paper, but it's a 398 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 16: pretty big call to make a paper compulsory like that, 399 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 16: And so that's why I am wanting to look at 400 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 16: the decision making process to make sure that there was 401 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 16: freedom of expression in the opinions of academic staff getting 402 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 16: to that decision. And look in the finish, people will 403 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 16: make their decisions about which universities they attend. Overseas, students 404 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 16: will make their decisions about whether they want to attend 405 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 16: universities where there are compulsory papers like this. 406 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: Exactly good to see you have a good week. I 407 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: appreciate it very much, Pennicimen to re Education Minister. Yeah, 408 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: well look it up, why, Papa Tomatrau. It gets you 409 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 3: ready for university and it gets you ready for life. 410 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 3: Once upon a time you go to university and explore 411 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: and just do whatever you want. 412 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 12: I thought the point of going to university was to 413 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 12: put off real life. 414 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 3: Well there was that stuff like that, but you know, 415 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 3: and this is the straight tid. The other day when 416 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: we went along, they couldn't explain it and that was 417 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 3: the problem because you know what Katie's like. She started 418 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: asking questions and they just could not explain what it 419 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: really was. Anyway, more on that later eighteen minutes away 420 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: from seven pasking This is a selection of the textas 421 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 3: that have comment Mike Pathetic from the Minister universities received 422 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 3: taxpayer funding. Race based policies have no place in a 423 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: thriving democracy, where defend the Minister is universities are independent. 424 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 3: Seymour explain this to us yesterday. They should be independent 425 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 3: despite the fact they get taxpayer money. But the government 426 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 3: does run the risk now of mixed messages which part 427 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: of the circular is applicable to who and when, and 428 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 3: that's going to be the political problem for them. Six 429 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: forty five. 430 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 18: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of mind 431 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 18: for New Zealand Business Right tried Rich. 432 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 3: Today on the morning finding out in a bat I 433 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: assume he sees the FED movers good for him and Karmela. 434 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 15: Absolutely the econdomy is the biggest presidential campaign issue we 435 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 15: hear all the time. So Biden is claiming now that 436 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 15: the economic recovery has reached a long awaited turning point 437 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 15: in speech to the Economic Club of Washington, saying that 438 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 15: there's been significant progress, but he did not say Mitchell accomplished, which, 439 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 15: of course George's able to bushed it infamously during the 440 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 15: Iraq War, putting up that big zone on the aircraft 441 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 15: carrier just before the fighting got really bad. This time, 442 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 15: the Dow has spike by more than six hundred points 443 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 15: for time, chopped down a bit lower now, but it 444 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 15: was up at a new record high, which doesn't quite 445 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 15: gel with the Trump claims that the Harris Biden team 446 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 15: overseeing the great economic collapse. Biden said, as you said before, 447 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 15: that when he began his term, the economy was in strife, 448 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 15: not to the pandemic, and with inflation spiraling. Now we 449 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 15: have just seen the FED cutting interest rates by half 450 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 15: a point first cuts its twenty twenty and people have 451 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 15: been suffering with that fiscal policy. 452 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 13: That's what needs to be emphasized. 453 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 15: The high interest rates have cost many who were in 454 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 15: the housing market or car buying markets, or paying off 455 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 15: debt it's cost them for years and years with those 456 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 15: high interest rates. The Central Bank also forecasts lowering interest 457 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 15: rates by another half a point before the end of 458 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 15: the year, so all this in time for the elections. 459 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 15: President Biden tilted to that today as well. 460 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 4: We always believe women should be paid equally for equal work, 461 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 4: and there's not a single damn job a woman can't 462 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 4: do that the man can do, including being President of 463 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 4: the United States America. 464 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 15: Well Murdock shown Wall Street Journal today headline the FED 465 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 15: goes big. Inflation now is down to about two and 466 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 15: a half percent. The FED target has been two percent, 467 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 15: so getting pretty close. Also, the labor market is softening, 468 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 15: so many economists would say this rate cut is necessary 469 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 15: to stimulate the economy a bit. But this is a 470 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 15: significant political boost for the Harris campaign. It would seem 471 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 15: Trump is complaining about that, saying the Fed mover's sheer politics. 472 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 13: Still, the FED. 473 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 15: Action is not the call of any single individual. It 474 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 15: was an eleven to one vote on the FED panel, 475 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 15: so this appears to be a soft landing. You could 476 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 15: probably say that to this point, although consumers regularly say 477 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 15: they are yet to feel it and vote. A sentiment 478 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 15: obviously is what this election will be about. 479 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: But you ain't in recession, Richard, which is where we 480 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: are currently now. This fascinating business of exploding stuff and 481 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 3: the Americans not knowing about. 482 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 13: It pretty wild, isn't it. 483 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 15: Anthony Blinkom, the US Secuity of State is calling for 484 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 15: restraint when it comes to this and the sabotage of 485 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 15: those thousands of pages and walkie talkies used by Hasbolla. 486 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 15: That sabotage campaign has led to more than thirty people 487 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 15: killed and more than three thousand people injured as these 488 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 15: devices were detonated in a couple of rounds as they 489 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 15: were turned into many grenades. Former CIA man Bob Bea 490 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 15: says this was done likely by lacing the batteries with 491 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 15: a small amount of explosives and sending out that blast signal. 492 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: It's a coded signal that they can just send out. 493 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 13: Well, we see the bloody results, do we not? 494 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 15: The US as it was told by Israel that some 495 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 15: new phase of attacks was expected, but they say they 496 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 15: did not know what was intended specifically had no role 497 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 15: in this. It appears the devices were altered by a 498 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 15: front company in Budapest, although they deny it, using technology 499 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 15: license by a Tyrwannese company, which denies any role as well. 500 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 14: Are you in. 501 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 15: Panelties calling all this a quote terrifying violation of international law? 502 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 13: The question is what next? 503 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 15: The head of Haswell Hassenzrala says there will be a 504 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 15: quote decisive and crushing response. So calls for peace in 505 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 15: southern Lebanon and Gaza seem to be floating in the wind. 506 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: See you Monday, mate, appreciate it, Richard Donald State side. 507 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: By the way, Carden has got one hundred and eleven 508 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 3: Republican former officials endorsing her, not Trump, people who worked 509 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: for or served under Reagan Bush times one, Bush times 510 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 3: two in the letter. We believe that she possesses the 511 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 3: essential qualities to serve as president. Donald Trump does not. 512 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: They decried Trump for sowing daily chaos and government put 513 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 3: as personal interests before the country violated as over office. 514 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: Former CII, FBI director William Webster, former Director of National 515 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: Intelligence Negroponte, former US Trade Representative Carla Hills, Robert Zolik. 516 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 3: One hundred and eleven of them, ten away from seven. 517 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: The Mike Hosking first with the Jaguar f phase News 518 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: talks Envy. 519 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: You didn't like Penny morning, Mike, and you wonder why 520 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 3: people are heading to Australia. Compulsory brainwashing is what I 521 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 3: call it, Mike Penny Simmons dishwater, disappointing, unexpectedly weak, Mike. 522 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 3: Feedback on the aut culture and woke attitudes are starting 523 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 3: to cost them reputation, and students have a son there 524 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 3: would not recommend them, or are you any more, Mike, 525 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: independent or not. Universities cannot cloak their racist policies under 526 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: the auspices of life lessons. Imagine a private company advertising 527 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: for race based employees to do some intercompany travel exactly 528 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: precisely the reworld into themselves. Universities. This exploding business in 529 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: Lebanon is increasingly fascinating. So now we've got a Japanese 530 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 3: company that made the handheld radio walkie talkies. The logo 531 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: that's on these walkie talkies that exploded, they're our saying, 532 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 3: which is interesting. So initially with pages it was Taiwan 533 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 3: through Budapeste. The walkie talkies have the serial number ic 534 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 3: V eight two, made by Icon, which is Osaka based. 535 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: ICM says it hasn't produced or exported any of these things, 536 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: nor the batteries for ten years, so they licensed their 537 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: trademark to a company in Hungary that was BAC. That 538 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: was the pages walkie talkies or the handhelds produced and exported, 539 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: including to the Middle East from October four to October fourteen. 540 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 3: They've done nothing since. The inference now is theyir knockoffs? 541 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: They're not the real thing. But the question remains, how 542 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: did the Israelis, if it was them, do it? And 543 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 3: it's got supply chain implications. It came from a factory somewhere. 544 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 3: Was it done inside the factory? Was it shipped out 545 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: of the factory, intercepted, mucked about with and then on scent? 546 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: No one seems to know. Five minutes away from seven. 547 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: O, the ins and the ouse, it's the fizz with 548 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: business favor take your business productivity to the next levels. 549 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 3: Dart from the States, they're struggling a bit. They've got 550 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 3: some green shoots, but things aren't flash. Sales a our 551 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: four point two percent compared to August of last year 552 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 3: total three point eight six million houses sold. Now that's 553 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 3: three months in a row of sales below four million. 554 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 3: Why do I mention four million or four million seen 555 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 3: by the industry as being average first home buyers making 556 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 3: up twenty six percent of sales, which is about the 557 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: number we have in this country. And here's the interesting part, 558 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: or the first interesting part. That's actually the lowest sense 559 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: of November twenty one. So you've got a greater participation 560 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: of first home buyers in the American market than you 561 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: do here. Supplies tights of prices are still firm. Median 562 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: price is six hundred and sixty six thousand dollars, which 563 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: is up three point one percent on August of last year. 564 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: Is that high, yes, it is. It's the highest price 565 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 3: ever for the month glass half full. These sales numbers 566 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: are seen as the low point. A lot of August arts, 567 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: based on closing contracts they were signed back in June 568 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 3: July don't close, as they say in America, till August. 569 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 3: So already the interest rates have dropped from the sevens 570 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: to the highest sixes. So the real estate agents they're 571 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 3: a bit bullish about the months ahead, and lysts say 572 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 3: they're not likely to see huge shape at this point. 573 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: You've got thirty mortgages, of course in America, so the 574 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: turnover or the tick over time is huge. You've also 575 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 3: got uncertainty around the election. The six sixty six number 576 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 3: if you want to compare it to New Zealand at 577 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: about nine hundred. Of course, you've got a vastly different countryside. 578 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: You've got places in downtown Manhattan where you can't get 579 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 3: in for under three or four million, and then you've 580 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 3: got the middle of Montana where they'll pay you to 581 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 3: move because no one wants to live there, So you've 582 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 3: got a very disparate sort of market. Jobs are interesting. 583 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: We'll talk to Nicola Willis about the GDP yesterday, but 584 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: the jobs numbers are interesting. So the government's goal is 585 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: to reduce those on jobs seek to buy up to 586 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 3: fifty thousand. But we've got more now. The reason we've 587 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: got more, of course, is because the government inherited a 588 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: basket case of an economy, and jobs are the fag 589 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: end of any sort of turnaround we may or may 590 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: not be seeing at the moment. So in other words, 591 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 3: jobs are the last to get corrected. So we'll work 592 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 3: through the economy. See we're at with the Finance Minister, 593 00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 3: Nikola Willis. 594 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 19: After the news is next the newspakers and the personalities 595 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 19: of the big names talk to costing breakfast with our 596 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 19: Veda retirement communities Life, Your Way News. 597 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: Togs hed been seven past seven, so GDP for Q 598 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: two was minus zero point two. So glass half fall 599 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: not as bad as consensus. And in a week in fact, 600 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: we've seen simple surveys that indicate from business to manufacturing, 601 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: the services to consumers, we might might just be seeing 602 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: a little bit of light at the end of the 603 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: old tunnel. Finance Minister Nicola willis with us for this Friday. 604 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning mate. So it could have been worse, Yes, 605 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: it could have been worse. 606 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 20: But ultimately I think we we think back to the 607 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 20: doing porter. We know that that was before the reserves 608 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 20: band had reduced interest rates, then felt pretty tough in 609 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 20: the economy. So I don't think we're surprised by this number, 610 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 20: and it does reflect the result of a long period 611 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 20: of high interest rates which have squeezed the economy, and 612 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 20: of course those were a response to an extended period 613 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 20: of high inflation. So i'd characterized where we are right 614 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 20: now the is we are still in clean up mode. 615 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 20: We're laying the foundation growth rise ahead. 616 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 3: Could it be possible that Q three some suggesting Q 617 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 3: three would not be as bad as Q two. Therefore, 618 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: I Q two wasn't as bad as we thought. It's 619 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: possible Q three is not even backwards. Therefore we're not 620 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: actually in recession. 621 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 20: That is possible. I'm conscious that the interest rate reduction 622 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 20: happens in August, which is late in the September quarter, 623 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 20: so we'll see. What I take a lot of heart 624 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 20: from is the forward indicators. So what I care about 625 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 20: is inflation coming out of control. Yes, forecasts to be 626 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 20: back in this quarter. Our interest rates coming down. Yes, 627 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 20: We've had our first reduction earlier than some have been forecasting, 628 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 20: and the forecast to keep falling. And is that seeing 629 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 20: a change in business confidence? Yes, the surveys are showing 630 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 20: that businesses think the year ahead is better. And that's 631 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 20: good because when business is a confident and interest rates 632 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 20: are lower and inflation is lower, that's when you get investments. 633 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 20: That's when firms start hiring people, they start innovating, buying 634 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 20: new machinery. That's where growth comes from. And that's what 635 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 20: we are very focused on. What can we as a 636 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 20: government do to make it easier for people to export, 637 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 20: to hire people to innovate, get the red tape out 638 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 20: of the way, get on with growing. 639 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of which, the current account though was shocking. 640 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: It didn't change as a percentage of GDP, but it's 641 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 3: a shocking number. Are you doing anything specific or is 642 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: that beyond your control? And the buying and selling of 643 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: stuff to the world, that is in. 644 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 20: Our agenda and the specific thing that we can do, 645 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 20: of course is drive better trade relationships around the world. 646 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 20: Todd McClay has been working very hard on that and 647 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 20: we will be in a position to have new trading 648 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 20: relationships as a government, we will have more to say 649 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 20: about that. That's important as exporters have more markets to 650 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 20: send their goods to. We also think that it's important 651 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 20: that you can actually get the developments into New Zealand. 652 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 20: The fast track consenting regime I think has been underestimated 653 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 20: as an economic reform because ultimately, if you want gross 654 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 20: in an economy, people have to be able to say, 655 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 20: I'm going to do that big housing development, I'm going 656 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 20: to do that big mining development, I'm going to do 657 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 20: that big manufacturing facility, and our fast track mechanism will 658 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 20: unlock that investment, which overall helps to productivity and eventually 659 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 20: flows through to your current account. 660 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 3: Okay, two part question. Carmel was busy on this in 661 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: question time yesterday. So the job seeking numbers forecast now 662 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 3: at two fourteen thousand to peak and Jen of twenty five. 663 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 3: Two part question is that the end of it? And 664 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 3: two how would we know given most of the forecasts 665 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: are wrong? 666 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 20: Well, support bus do tell us that unemployment ist to 667 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 20: keep rising. There's always a lag effect that comes off 668 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 20: the back of these declining these declining growth figures. But 669 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 20: here is a number that I'm really focused on, which 670 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 20: is how many people are exiting the job seeker benefit 671 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 20: in going back into work, and really positively that number 672 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 20: is higher this year than it was last year on 673 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 20: a month on month based Why because actually, when you 674 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 20: say to people there is a sanctions regime. If you're 675 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 20: on the benefit, it's not meant to be forever or 676 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 20: a lifestyle. We want to help you to get back 677 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 20: into jobs. You can keep people flowing through. Now that's 678 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 20: not to say it's not a challenging environment. It's not 679 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 20: sound employment as in a number that's been going up, 680 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 20: but we are confident we can keep moving Kiwis into jobs. 681 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 3: Good, have a good weekend, appreciate it. Nichola Willis, the 682 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: Finance Minister. It's eleven past seven Mosschames could be coming 683 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 3: around jury trials. Currently, if you face charges that could 684 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 3: see you in jail longer than two years, you get 685 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: to choose between the judge or a jury. But the 686 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 3: number of active jury trials is through the roof and 687 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 3: the length of the average case is blown out. I'll 688 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: give you the numbers in the moment, but Law Association 689 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 3: VP Julian Kincaid is with us Julianne Morning, good morning 690 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 3: mite in theory. If they change it, does that make 691 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: sense or not? 692 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 21: No, it doesn't. The first point to make is that 693 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 21: the statistics they're relying on from between twenty and eighteen 694 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 21: and twenty twenty three, which includes two of the COVID years, 695 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 21: so it undermines the the value of those statistics. And 696 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 21: also there's been as everyone knows, an increase in homicide cases, 697 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 21: certainly in Auckland, and so the High Court are not dealing. 698 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 20: With the drugs cases that they would have dealt with. 699 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 21: Some time ago, and the District Court is having to 700 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 21: cope with much longer multi accused drug cases that would 701 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 21: have that in the older days would have been tried 702 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 21: in the High Court. 703 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 22: With all sorts of different levers. 704 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 3: Going on, taking COVID years out. I mean, I'm looking 705 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 3: at the average duration of the case from three to 706 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 3: forty nine days has gone up to four hundred and 707 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 3: ninety eight or five hundred days to deal with the case. 708 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 3: I mean, if you take the COVID years that would 709 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 3: that be dramatically different. 710 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 22: I think so. 711 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 21: And there's all sorts of different factors that go into 712 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 21: these things. Right now, it's an ulti district court. In fact, 713 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 21: you'll get a jury trial faster than you'll get a 714 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,959 Speaker 21: judge alone trial. So we need to be careful about 715 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 21: using a blunt tool to try and solve the problem. 716 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 21: There's also been a lot of work going on in 717 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 21: the last couple of years, since twenty twenty two on 718 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 21: a what we call see PET Criminal Process Improvement Program. 719 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 21: Lots of things have been going on. Police prosecutions have 720 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 21: had a large injection of CAT, They've been able to 721 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 21: harm more people. We're getting earlier disclosure. We've got two 722 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 21: prosecutors in court and noight, so we can have constructive 723 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 21: conversations with one of them whilst the other one is 724 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 21: carrying on with the court business in the list court. 725 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 21: So these are things that have just come into play 726 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 21: this year, and I think these are the things that 727 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 21: will have a huge impact on increasing those efficiencies which 728 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 21: we all want. But I'm just saying, just be careful 729 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 21: about going back too far and looking at things as 730 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 21: they're weare, because they're already changes well under way that 731 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 21: are going to make an actual difference. 732 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 3: Appreciate your expertise. Julian Kincaid case see with us this morning. 733 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 3: So the two numbers, the number of BEAC of jury 734 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 3: trials you arguse COVID, I get it. Number bec of 735 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 3: jury trials has gone in the last six years from 736 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 3: two thousand to three and a half thousand, and as 737 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 3: I say, the every duration of a cases climb from 738 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 3: three forty nine to four ninety eight. Could science be 739 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 3: about to say this more in a moment? Fourteen past 740 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: Will Jordan with us in the next half or the 741 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 3: program and the lead up tomorrow afternoons daytime rugby? Like 742 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 3: a bit of daytime rugby, don't we? Sixteen past seven? 743 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 3: In the climate battle, this is good news. I think 744 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 3: we've got progress in the area of what they call 745 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: a methane vaccine. Methane vaccine apparently is the holy grail 746 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 3: for farming. Scientists are basically wanting to develop antibodies that 747 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 3: reduce methane emissions from animals. AGRA zero in New Zealands, 748 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 3: Chief executive WAYN mcnee's with us Wayne, very good morning 749 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: to you. 750 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 22: Good morning Mike. 751 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 3: On a scale of one to ten in excitement terms, ten, 752 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 3: you're fizzing one. You couldn't give a monkey's where are 753 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: we at on that scale? 754 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 22: You asked me this last time. I think this is 755 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 22: I'm pretty fizzing about this one. Actually, I reckon I'm 756 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 22: getting up around this sort of seven or eight. This 757 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 22: is a really exciting opportunity to try and develop a 758 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 22: methane vaccine. 759 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 3: So the thirteen and a half million we're talking about 760 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 3: is that on a path to a result we know 761 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 3: eventually will happen, or on a path we just don't 762 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 3: quite know where we're going yet. 763 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 22: Look, I think we're on a path to knowing we 764 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 22: will eventually get there. Another company we've invested in called 765 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 22: our Ka Bio in the United States is proven you 766 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 22: can make a methane vaccine. Did a lot of work 767 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 22: to do there, but you know it can be done. 768 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 22: So the team here, we're investing to develop a bigger 769 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 22: team with egg Research bring the team together with other 770 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 22: researchers and push hard to get a product that farmers 771 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 22: will be able to use. 772 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 3: That sort of answers my question, are you in competition 773 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 3: with these other people? How many other people are there? 774 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 3: And are you collaborating? 775 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 22: There's only two vaccine companies and we've invested in both 776 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 22: of them, so yeah, we are looking for them to collaborate, 777 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 22: but we're investing in a portfolio of possible solutions for farmers, 778 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 22: partly because some of them may not work, and also 779 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 22: to give farmers choices so that when these things come 780 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 22: to market, you know, they don't have to do just 781 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 22: one thing. 782 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 3: When you get there, how commercial does it become how quickly? 783 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 22: Yeah, And vaccines are pretty easy to scale, So if 784 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 22: they can make one that works and what we'd be 785 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 22: looking for as a twenty to twenty five percent reduction 786 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 22: over about six months with a single vaccine shot, they're 787 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 22: pretty easy to scale. I mean we've seen that recently, 788 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 22: haven't we. But you can make vaccines quite easily and 789 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 22: quite chea, so you know, once we've got it, it 790 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 22: should be quite easy to make. 791 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 3: So if you can reduce methane by twenty five percent, 792 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 3: what does that do to the climate. 793 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 22: Debate, that makes a huge difference. It would be massive 794 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 22: if we can get there with a vaccine, because it's 795 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 22: relatively easy for farmers to administer. Vaccines are already widely used 796 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 22: in animal health and this could be you know, for 797 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 22: New Zealand, it would be huge because we're a pastoral 798 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 22: farming system, but worldwide eighty percent of remnants grays on pasture, 799 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 22: so it would be a massive breakthrough. 800 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 3: But when you look at the politics and the yankst 801 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 3: around the ets and all of that sort of thing, 802 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 3: if you and our biggest dealer is methane emissions, if 803 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 3: you can do twenty five percent on the farm, that's 804 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 3: a government re thinking their entire approach, isn't it. 805 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 22: We've got to get yet there yet. But yes, I mean, 806 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 22: but we're phising one. 807 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 3: You told me we're phising. 808 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 22: So our customers from New Zealand are asking for reductions 809 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 22: of thirty percent of methane by twenty thirty. So it's 810 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 22: a big customer build here from the likes of Nestlade 811 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,720 Speaker 22: Dena in McDonald's others. So this is this is hopefully 812 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 22: part of the solution for that. There's still a way 813 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 22: to go, though I am puzzing it as an exciting opportunity. 814 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 3: Okay, we'll get you back on and I'll ask you 815 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 3: the same question for a third time to see how 816 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 3: we go. So you can't make me down for Consistencywayne mcne, who's. 817 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 12: Do you go from? Fizzing? 818 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 4: Well? 819 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 3: Wait, that's a very good point. By the way, Mike 820 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 3: Willworth's Australia invest is what New Zealand will be sold 821 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 3: off because New Zealand's dragging Australia value down. Wonder where 822 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 3: the ComCom thinks it's interesting you should say that that's 823 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 3: in the Financial Review this morning. I think it's for 824 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 3: the Financial Review anyway. This whole argument that somehow these 825 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 3: guys are ripping us off creaming it, it simply isn't true. 826 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 3: And the more you read into the business side of 827 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 3: the equation, the better a the better informed you are, 828 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 3: and you just start to wonder how much this is 829 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 3: political as opposed to bottom line seven seven twenty four. 830 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 3: Time now to marke the week little piece of news 831 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 3: and current events that that sunny and Butch say, keep 832 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 3: them sane on the long wait to February are the 833 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 3: economy for between the GDP and the current account. It's 834 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 3: a bad week of data. Upside as you heard with Nikolie, 835 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,919 Speaker 3: you could argue it might be the worst of it. 836 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 3: It might mean there are better times ahead. Are the 837 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 3: Fed six where they go, we all go. They think 838 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 3: they've done their job. The post COVID Central Bank angst 839 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 3: could finally be done Glasgow. Seven. Commonwealth games are saved. 840 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 3: Poles six Poles are always fun. Two this week both 841 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 3: bad for labor, good for the government. Auckland CBD Sex. 842 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 3: The crime stats are the tangible things that lead to 843 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 3: good poles for the government Hamilton Sex to who we 844 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 3: Are and Jitsta Now we're talking whining unions. Three this 845 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 3: week it was relieving teachers name me the last time 846 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 3: union said something anything positive. Minerals Sex the release of 847 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 3: the critical Minerals. That list told us a couple of things. One, 848 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 3: we've got lots of them too. We've never done a 849 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 3: list before, which seemed mad. Three they're an economic boon. 850 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 3: Do we need an economic boon? Yes we do. Are 851 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 3: the race Edict eight because doing stuff, handing stuff out 852 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 3: based on nothing more than race is fed farmers one 853 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five. 854 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: That's a bottle boy. 855 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 3: We advocacy groups in this country. I think they could 856 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 3: be choice to be my favorite Hot New Zealand. Six 857 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 3: for the eat Local campaign this week and in hard 858 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 3: to believe you need to encourage people to support local 859 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 3: when it comes to fruit and vegetables. But there you go, 860 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 3: you're black. Seven. Australia comes at just the right time. 861 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 3: I reckon what we need off two losses? Is someone 862 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 3: really useless Australia come on in wait, wait, wait, Liam Lawson. Nine. 863 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 3: If the word is accurate by the time the weekend is, 864 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 3: we will have our next full time driver in Formula 865 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 3: one Pizza Hut four. I'm not sure. 866 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 12: It's got stuck there the button. We're working it out. 867 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 12: There we go. 868 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not sure what's worse offering and all you 869 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 3: can eat all the fact it's sold out in minutes. Yuck. 870 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 3: That's the week copies on the website and this has 871 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 3: been endorsed by one hundred and eleven former Republicans as 872 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 3: well as Taylor Swift actually asking let me come back 873 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 3: to Tory far now, because I've got the list of the 874 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 3: mayor's salaries around the country and I've worked out where 875 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 3: you actually want to be MEP because and it's not 876 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,280 Speaker 3: where you think, and it's not where you earn the most. 877 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 3: It's the bang for buck equation. But I'll come back 878 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 3: to that and if I get time. There's another poll 879 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 3: out this week as well. But what we need to 880 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 3: do is cross the tasm and talk to Will Jordan. 881 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 3: Last time we talked to Will, he was just coming 882 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 3: back from the surgery and the shoulder and so we 883 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 3: talked about the psychological impact of coming back and whether 884 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 3: you favor yourself and he's gone on to lose all 885 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 3: the games. Now we don't personally blame Will for that. 886 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 12: It does seem to be a connection, man, but there. 887 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 3: Does seem to be a connection. So Will Jordan out 888 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 3: of Australia for us on the rugby. Then of course 889 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 3: we'll do the week with Tim and Katie afterward. That's 890 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 3: after the news, which is next here at news Talk set. 891 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Show You Can Trust, the Mic Hosking Breakfast 892 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 2: with the Jaguar f pace cut from a different CLIs 893 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 2: News Talk's Envy. 894 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 3: Tim and Katie after right, of course, and we will 895 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 3: go to Murray Olds in Australia. A lot of interesting there. 896 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 3: What was their employment unemployment yesterday stayed steady at four 897 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 3: point two percent, So they're going through the same acting 898 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 3: thing that we're going at the moment, and growth and 899 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 3: unemployment and central banks and stuff. Anyway, Murray Old's and 900 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 3: about in our time, another crack. Speaking of Australia, another 901 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 3: crack for the All Blacks. This weekend, We've got the 902 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 3: first of the blenders Low tests in Sydney tomorrow afternoon. 903 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 3: Will Jordan with us. Good morning morning, Mike. 904 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 23: How are you. 905 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 3: I'm very well indeed, mate, talk us through the last 906 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 3: couple of days, the trip back from Africa and this 907 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 3: this week off. What have you done with it? 908 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,280 Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean it was a pretty big tour to Africa, 909 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 23: obviously a couple of big games through episode. So I 910 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 23: think we got back to christ Huts kind of Tuesday morning, 911 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 23: so I was a pretty first half of the week, 912 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 23: just sort of recovering both mentally and physically. Yeah, you 913 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 23: could to spend some time with Stanley. My brother was 914 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 23: back from the UK, so good to connect with him 915 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,720 Speaker 23: for a little bit. But yeah, I think the whole 916 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 23: sense mon if the group was there, We're very excited 917 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 23: to get back in camp and get stuck in this. 918 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 23: So now could to be back in camp with the 919 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,240 Speaker 23: boys and it's been a good few days in Sydney. 920 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 3: And what about the camp this week and what you've 921 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 3: done and what the result has been. 922 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 23: Yeah, I think just trying to take the good part 923 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 23: to their game from the two tiest in Africa and 924 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 23: build on those and just be more consistent with it. 925 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,959 Speaker 23: I think, particularly around our attack, we were quite happy 926 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 23: with the way we're able to manifit the Africans a 927 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 23: little bit and so we had some good shape here. 928 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 23: I think also just adjusting to the way that OSSI's play. 929 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 23: It's obviously stylistically a little bit different around how they 930 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,439 Speaker 23: to stem with perhaps a bit more of a push 931 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 23: team rather than in your faceline speed and the threat 932 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 23: step brings. So a little bit of a focus on 933 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 23: us around our game. But also yeah, just getting used 934 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 23: to a different style and a different challenge. 935 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 3: And what about you personally, I mean last time we 936 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 3: had you on the program, you're about to be back. 937 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 3: You had your shoulder, your surgery, all that sort of thing. 938 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 3: Have you come through that, well, you're feeling good. 939 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 23: Yeah, the shoulders feeling really good, which has been pleasing. 940 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 23: I guess for me, I've sort of been back for 941 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 23: well four or five games now sort of probably yeah, 942 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 23: I guess over the first few weeks of still fine, 943 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 23: must be a little bit around, a bit of timing 944 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 23: and that sort of thing. So I guess the feeling 945 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 23: for myself around Yeah, I had a few decent reps 946 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 23: in some game time, so time to start really ahead 947 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 23: of my straps, I guess, much like the rest of 948 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 23: the team was sort of past the halfway point of 949 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 23: the season now, so yeah, looking to personally be more inferential, 950 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 23: and I guess to the team, looking to start getting 951 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 23: some results in the water. 952 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 3: Now. I know you'll be diplomatic about this, but Australia 953 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 3: of course, and not South Africa, so you've got to 954 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 3: be feeling reasonably good about that. 955 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 5: Yeah. 956 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 23: I mean for us, there's always like we know how 957 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 23: important the middles Low Cup is, so I think within 958 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 23: that that provides enough edge and energy amongst the group, 959 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 23: like it's a cut we hold pretty daily to our hearts. 960 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 23: So the thought of losing it still he provides plenty 961 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 23: of fear and the thing to find out its footy 962 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 23: if you're not right on your game and you allow 963 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 23: teams to kind of get into a bit of flow 964 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 23: and get some self belief, which the Aussies can do, 965 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 23: then I can quickly turn to a tough night. So yeah, 966 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,240 Speaker 23: for us, it's about Yeah, it's maintaining or even listing 967 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 23: on our intensity from over and over in Africa and 968 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 23: making sure, yeah, we're able to kind of put them 969 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 23: on the back foot to start and then play a game. 970 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 3: And what's been the talk within the team about the 971 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 3: season so far? You lost to Argentina, a couple of 972 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 3: losses to South Africa. Where are you guys at at 973 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 3: the stage of the season. Are you in any way, 974 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 3: shape or form feeling the pressure? 975 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 23: Yeah? I mean to start off, you're always fearing the 976 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 23: pressure a little bit, like you know how much support 977 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 23: we have back home and how much the yeah you're 978 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 23: on public wants your becks to do well, so you're 979 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 23: always mindful of that and yeah, trying to do your 980 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 23: abys to make them proud of you. I think in 981 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 23: terms of where're at, like the lost Argentina at home 982 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 23: is certainly very disappointing, and similarly the two losses to Africa, 983 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 23: particularly because we gave ourselves a good chance to win 984 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 23: three games and then fell away in the last twenty 985 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 23: heard it, but I guess yeah, from a still a 986 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 23: lightning point of view, we felt like against Africa we 987 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 23: played some pretty good rugby. Like I touched on before, 988 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 23: I think with our attack we're able to find some 989 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 23: space against the rush to finch to rush defense which 990 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 23: would struggled with a little bit in the past, and 991 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,479 Speaker 23: defensively at times are pretty good. Probably that our selves 992 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 23: down a little bit on the discipline front, So probably 993 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 23: someone where I touched on personally, like, yeah, we're halfway 994 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 23: through the season now, so we've had enough time to 995 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 23: sort of build some combinations, worked through a bit of 996 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 23: a new style of player and the Razor, and yeah, 997 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 23: I think it's just time to go out there and yeah, 998 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,280 Speaker 23: do it for eighty minutes and start getting some results. 999 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 3: Backing up, Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. 1000 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 3: How you're finding Razor, I mean, giving your experience compared 1001 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 3: to some of the others and the team who haven't 1002 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 3: worked under him, Are they generally, you know, feeling good 1003 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 3: about what he's about and what he brings. 1004 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 23: Yeah, I think so. I think there's always the key 1005 00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 23: things just to kind of get to know each other 1006 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 23: as people and understand what makes people taken. Yeah, what 1007 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 23: what's going to be able to get people at the ABYSS. 1008 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 23: And that's what Razor has always been messive on around 1009 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 23: kind of man management and really understanding his players. So 1010 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 23: I guess myself, I already had a pretty good relationship 1011 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,439 Speaker 23: with him. So I've enjoyed the combos that we've had. 1012 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 23: And yeah, I think just from a fourteen point of view, 1013 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,839 Speaker 23: it just takes time to build that. Like I say, 1014 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 23: I think everyone's pretty excited about where we can kind 1015 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 23: of get to and this kind of foundations that we've got. 1016 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 23: I guess just about putting them all together, and I 1017 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 23: think that's starting to build and guys who have maybe 1018 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 23: had less experienced the Razor and Scottie and the likes 1019 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 23: of starting to build those conditions. So that's gonna be 1020 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 23: crucial for UST moving forward. And hopefully, Yeah, wrong the 1021 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 23: way to doing that You. 1022 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 3: Check the forecast at all? Does it matter? 1023 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 23: Yeah, I have the forecast looking pretty sunny this week. Yeah, 1024 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 23: we've had yeah, good three or four days away to 1025 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 23: hear certainly pretty hot. So the boys have had a 1026 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 23: good sweat on three forty five kickoff here, so yeah, 1027 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 23: you'd expected to be pretty hot running footy. Both teams 1028 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 23: like to use the ball and plays so personally as now, 1029 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 23: so I bet that's pretty exciting. And there's a team too. 1030 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 23: Hopefully we'll be able to play a decent tempo, get 1031 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 23: some fritigue into the game, and yeah, be able to 1032 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 23: show show our skills. So now I'd be pretty excited. 1033 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 23: Come yeah, four o'clock. 1034 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 5: So they good on you? 1035 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 3: Well, Ike appreciate it very much, will Jordan? Who's when 1036 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 3: he says four o'clock that's Australian time. Six o'clock in 1037 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 3: New Zealand twenty four degrees and a very very barely 1038 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,919 Speaker 3: noticeable northerly in Sydney seventeen away from six husky. Good 1039 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 3: for golf, good for rugby in the in terms of fairness, 1040 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 3: the poll out earlier on this week politically was a 1041 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 3: disaster for the Labor Party, so they managed to get 1042 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 3: their own poll out this week Tulbot Mills yesterday Tulbert 1043 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 3: Mills survey for the Labor Party. So what have we got? 1044 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 3: They're better national still up to thirty seven, but Labour 1045 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 3: stitdy on thirty two, so not the disaster. The other 1046 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 3: pole showed them as the Greens on ten, act on 1047 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 3: eight and New Zealand first on six to Party Mary 1048 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 3: three point nine, how about that Marory Party MPa, how 1049 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 3: about the Mary Party mp calling everyone in the house 1050 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 3: a liar? And Peter's standing up and going you can't 1051 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 3: call us liars, and Jerry Brownly, who was asleep, goes, 1052 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 3: I didn't hear it. Did you call them a liar? 1053 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 3: And he goes, no, they check their hands are and 1054 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 3: he did. So he's going to have to correct the record, 1055 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 3: such as such as the malaise that pervades the political 1056 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 3: system these days. Wrong direction, right direction, wrong direction forty 1057 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 3: seven forty two. Forty seven percent of us believe we're 1058 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 3: going in the wrong direction, forty two percent think the 1059 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 3: right direction, so that's coming right and turning around. Forty 1060 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 3: eight percent of us either strongly or somewhat disapproved of 1061 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 3: the government, forty six percent strongly or somewhat approved. So 1062 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 3: that is a real tight race at the moment. So 1063 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 3: a better picture for Chris Hipkins, who I believe his 1064 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 3: London trips as we speak, I think he's landed in 1065 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,760 Speaker 3: London and he goes, how much do you get SAKIA 1066 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 3: for those suits? And where do you get that money from? 1067 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 3: Would that be his opening question seven forty five, miked 1068 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 3: Wellington mayor, And I use the term loosely is a disgrace, 1069 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 3: and saying she can't make ends meet and one hundred 1070 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 3: ninety grand as an insult to all the struggling rate players. 1071 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,479 Speaker 3: Is she too stupid to see that? Probably? John. Here's 1072 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 3: the funny thing. So I'm reading yesterday's stuff, and who 1073 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 3: doesn't like reading stuff when they're board? So anyway, they've 1074 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 3: got this interview with Tory Farnow yesterday, which they claim 1075 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 3: is an exclusive, So I'm thinking, are you serious? 1076 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 8: You guys? 1077 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 3: So they're claiming it's an exclusive, and they're upset because 1078 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 3: in this exclusive she doesn't want to talk about the 1079 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 3: sale of her car and making ends meet, and I'm thinking, well, 1080 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 3: why would they be asking her about that? 1081 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 12: Maybe that's what made it exclusive. 1082 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,399 Speaker 3: She's you know, oh, I see what you're saying. 1083 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 12: Sorry, this is the only interview where those things aren't brought. 1084 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 3: Up, that's right, So my apologies. I thought, how would 1085 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 3: she be why would they be asking about that? Well 1086 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 3: that's because she talked to Nick two days earlier in 1087 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 3: what I can only assume was another exclusive. So a 1088 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 3: whole week full of exclusives all over the place for 1089 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 3: the media. 1090 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 12: Yeah, which one's more exclusive? Which one that's more information 1091 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 12: in it or the one with not all the information 1092 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 12: in it? 1093 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 3: How many interviews do you need to give in a 1094 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 3: week before it's not exclusive? Now? Anyway, here's the point. 1095 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 3: So Wayne Brown obviously earns more than anybody else three 1096 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 3: hundred and six thousand, or if you want to be precise, 1097 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,399 Speaker 3: three hundred and six thousand, nine hundred and fifty two 1098 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 3: dollars film major in christ Church two O seven comes 1099 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,919 Speaker 3: second or two O seven four hundred. Tory On one 1100 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 3: ninety is right up there. Hamilton Paula, she's earning one 1101 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 3: eighty seven. Chathams is the cheapest. Monique is on fifty 1102 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 3: nine thousand, five hundred and thirty two. Kai Koura Craigie 1103 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 3: and old kai Kurra eighty nine thousand, I reckon eighty nine. 1104 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,399 Speaker 3: He was close to being what I reckon eighty nine 1105 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 3: and kai Kura I mean crayfish being what they are. 1106 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 3: I understand the problem there. But apart from that's fairly 1107 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,919 Speaker 3: cheap living in Kaikura carted and Ron one O four 1108 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 3: Why Matty Craig one O eight Westland Mayor Helen is 1109 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 3: on one o nine, So your winner, I would have 1110 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 3: thought everyone else, by the way, earns between one eleven 1111 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 3: and one eighty six. First of all, there are too 1112 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,320 Speaker 3: many mayors, let's just say that for a start. So 1113 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 3: when you add up all the eighties, nineties, hundreds, two 1114 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 3: hundred and three hundreds, that's hundreds of millions of dollars 1115 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 3: or teens of mellis. 1116 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,399 Speaker 12: To how many sets of beach steps you could build, 1117 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,280 Speaker 12: how many big receips. 1118 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly precisely. But I reckon the best being for 1119 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 3: buck Meir's job in the country is Westland Mayor Helen 1120 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 3: lash at one hundred, nine thousand and sixty five. I 1121 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,240 Speaker 3: reckon if you're earning one hundred and nine thousand dollars 1122 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,760 Speaker 3: living in Westland, your quids in see three hundred sounds 1123 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 3: like a lot of money. In Auckland for many it is. 1124 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 3: I get that. Don't go crazy on me. But living 1125 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 3: in Auckland's expensive. Living in christ Church is expensive. Any 1126 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 3: major city is expensive. I mean in Wellington. Have you 1127 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 3: seen the price of living in Wellington? Next thing, you know, 1128 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 3: you got a earlier car. 1129 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,919 Speaker 12: For God's sake, have you got old Ben Bell down 1130 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 12: and Gore. 1131 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,080 Speaker 3: There very good question. No, they didn't do Ben Bell, 1132 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 3: but he will be between one eleven. That's a very 1133 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,240 Speaker 3: good point. Actually, if I'd known what Ben's actual salary 1134 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 3: is could be close Gore Gore, he'd be on a 1135 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 3: one hundred and what one twelve? One hundred and twelve 1136 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 3: in Gore, I mean that Ben's rolling. 1137 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 12: Yeah, but I mean it has been a complicated role, 1138 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:17,359 Speaker 12: has it is? 1139 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 3: Some of that's on him, to be fair. But so 1140 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 3: if you keep it simple and you're on one hundred 1141 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 3: and ten Ish Westland or Gore, I reckon your quids. 1142 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 3: And what do you think? Night Away from eight. 1143 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 2: For the Mike Costing, Breakfast with Bailey, three Estates and 1144 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,320 Speaker 2: news togs Zby. 1145 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 3: I might never mind. The me is what about the 1146 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 3: CEO's yea CEOs defend you know. CEOs are actually responsible 1147 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 3: for things and make decisions as opposed to me as 1148 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 3: who just turn up to meetings. Here's my other working 1149 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,399 Speaker 3: theory at the moment. It came out of a really 1150 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 3: interesting article I read, not on stuff. Funnily enough, it 1151 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 3: was in Sydney Morning Herald. The Climate Council in Australia 1152 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 3: had a look at who's got solar on their roof. 1153 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,319 Speaker 3: Now you're supposed to have solar on your roof so 1154 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 3: you can save the world, which, of course is crap 1155 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 3: because people only say they want to solve the world, 1156 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 3: they won't actually do anything to solve the world. Hence 1157 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 3: we haven't solved the world. What you'll put solder on 1158 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 3: your roof for is to save money. So who would 1159 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 3: be more likely to be wanting to save money? Answer? 1160 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 3: People without money. So what they've found is rooftop solar 1161 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 3: is on less than twenty percent of detached and semi 1162 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 3: detached homes and inner ring suburbs in other words, wealthy suburbs, 1163 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 3: and its way higher in the outer suburbs. The higher 1164 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,959 Speaker 3: the household income in a post code area, the less 1165 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,800 Speaker 3: likely they were to have solar. Why because quote unquote 1166 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 3: rich families don't need to save money. And the reason 1167 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 3: I got involved with that is because I read the 1168 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 3: latest Earlier on this week, I mentioned the new stake 1169 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 3: that's coming from about meat or what are they called 1170 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 3: meatless meat? About meat whatever they're called. Beyond Yeah, beyond meat. 1171 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 3: There's a company in San Francisco, no less, called a Tomo, 1172 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 3: which is about to launch the beanless coffee. And the 1173 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 3: problem with beanless coffee is it doesn't taste like coffee, 1174 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 3: and so they argue. And so the beyond Meat people 1175 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,359 Speaker 3: are now arguing. Having failed the first time around, they're 1176 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 3: now arguing, it's good for your health. So forget the 1177 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,280 Speaker 3: climate because that one failed on them. Now they're arguing 1178 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 3: it's good for your health. The beanless coffee people haven't 1179 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,439 Speaker 3: worked out the argument about saving the planet doesn't work. 1180 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 3: So they go, here's some beanless coffee, and you go, 1181 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 3: it doesn't taste like coffee, and they go, but don't worry, 1182 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 3: you can save the planet. So that's not going to work, 1183 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 3: and there's a photo. Look it up. It's actually well worth. 1184 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 3: A new beamless coffee emerges, but does it taste any good? 1185 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 3: The woman selling you has the sort of fringe you 1186 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 3: would expect a person who's selling you beanless coffee to have. 1187 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 3: And that's before we get to Sami. Now, Samy, unbeknownst 1188 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:43,319 Speaker 3: to me, has been into some nefarious little night time activities, 1189 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 3: and it involves traveling great distance, spending tremendous amounts of 1190 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 3: money on what really is nothing. 1191 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,360 Speaker 12: More than a disgusting Habit is that what you'd call. 1192 00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 3: It child is fad or disgusting habit? Possibly both? Anyway 1193 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,360 Speaker 3: more in a moment after the news, which is next big. 1194 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 2: News, Bold opinions, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, 1195 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 2: your local experts across residential, commercial and rural news togs, 1196 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 2: Ed Beach, I like. 1197 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 3: You almost immediately. This is Sookie Waterhouse. Who I it's 1198 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 3: one of those names. You go, I know that name, Yes, 1199 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 3: I do. Then she's a member of Daisy Jones and six, 1200 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 3: which is a television band, a fictional television band which 1201 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. Anyway. This is only a second album, 1202 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 3: which would make it a sophomore album. The full length 1203 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 3: debut was I Can't Let Go. That was a couple 1204 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,919 Speaker 3: of years ago. She's back now with what they would 1205 00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 3: loosely call a double album because there are eighteen tracks. 1206 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 3: Most of them are very very short, like they've almost 1207 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 3: run out of inspiration after they got starters, and so 1208 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 3: they only come up with, despite eighteen tracks, fifty ten 1209 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 3: minutes worth a new with them. 1210 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 2: Take a ll leaders a week in review with two 1211 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 2: degrees fighting for fear for Kiwi business. 1212 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 3: It is aimnutes past day time to welcome to the program. 1213 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 3: Tim Wilson, Kate Hawk's be good morning, good morning, just 1214 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 3: regaling everyone, Ca, do you remember when we got our 1215 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 3: checkbook nicked out of the letterbox that day? 1216 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 24: Oh, I've forgotten about that. Those are the days checkbooks. 1217 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 3: That's right, exactly. Well, that was the problem. That was 1218 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 3: the funny side of the story, because of course we 1219 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 3: looked like luddites even back then, because this was a 1220 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 3: number of years ago, we looked like luddites for still 1221 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 3: having checkbooks, because people would go, why do you still 1222 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 3: have a checkbook? Now? I suddenly thought that's probably not 1223 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 3: a bad question. So that really was the end of 1224 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 3: the checkbox, wasn't it. 1225 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,920 Speaker 24: What did we do about that, the checkbook that got. 1226 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 3: Stolen, Well, we involved the police in the bank and 1227 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 3: a lot of judicial procedures, and there was a person 1228 00:58:58,480 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 3: who was convicted. 1229 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 24: Oh, I've blacked that whole thing out because I don't 1230 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 24: remember anything. 1231 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 3: Are you like triggered at UPDSD ing? There is that 1232 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 3: like something a traumatic. 1233 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 24: That is quite triggering, that's quite triggering. 1234 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 25: Hey listen, can I tell you sh I tell you. 1235 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 3: Yep, yep. 1236 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 17: So so I ran a bit sort of dough at university. 1237 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 17: So Mum and Dad cut me well, and I just said, 1238 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 17: I'm sure to doe. And so they sent me a 1239 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 17: three hundred dollar check which I tore up an emailed back, 1240 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 17: not emailed mailed back, pardon me. I'm in a bad 1241 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 17: habit and because I wanted to. I want to stand 1242 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 17: on my own two feet. And then Dad hit me 1243 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 17: up for the seven cent check duty. Seven cent check duty. 1244 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 17: Come on, you're wasting money on him. 1245 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 3: Well, and you got by, obviously, and it all worked 1246 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,400 Speaker 3: out well in the end. By the way, So Sammy, 1247 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 3: you alerted me this Katie last weekend and I completely 1248 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 3: forgot about it, and she raised it on the program earlier. 1249 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:59,760 Speaker 3: So Sammy is out in is it South Auckland, tucking A? 1250 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 3: He he is South Auckland, Takaninni and he's out in 1251 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 3: South Auckland and Taccaninny. He says it could be Flatbush. 1252 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 24: That's a long way away. 1253 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 3: It's a very much okay if he's not. If you 1254 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 3: live in Tacaniny, it's local. But he doesn't know. So anyway, 1255 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 3: he's he's gunning up the Nissen, the R thirty five 1256 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 3: four speed manual and he's taking it with hotted exhaust 1257 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 3: and he's taking it down south to TACANINNY. And you 1258 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 3: know what he's buying. 1259 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 25: That sounds like sounds like you need the methane vaccine. 1260 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 3: But carry on anyway, what's he what's it? What's he buying? Caddy? 1261 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 24: He's buying a bespoke made just for him, very hard 1262 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 24: to get and demand. Chocolate bar. 1263 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 3: That's correct. Is this the Dubai it's the due bar. 1264 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 24: I probably spent. Yeah, I mean the chocolate bar was 1265 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 24: a fortune. Are you going to reveal the cost of 1266 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 24: the chocolate bar? 1267 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 3: Seventeen dollars a bar? 1268 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 24: Yeah? 1269 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:52,800 Speaker 3: And do you know how many bought? 1270 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 14: Oh? 1271 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 24: I thought he only bought one. 1272 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 3: No, that's a sad story. First of all, he goes 1273 01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,160 Speaker 3: down by his one, but because they don't have his 1274 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 3: favorite flavor, he goes back. He goes back because he 1275 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 3: wanted ashio, which is his favorite flavor. So he goes 1276 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 3: back with the pistacio and he buys. I didn't realize. 1277 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,080 Speaker 3: I didn't realize Savvy was Pakistani. But he's gone and 1278 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 3: bought thirty three blocks of this Dubai chocolate, thirty three 1279 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 3: thirty he has not he hasn't. He brought five and 1280 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,280 Speaker 3: then he goes, because he's going red in the face 1281 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 3: when we were ripping him a new one in the 1282 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 3: in the in the in the control room before, because 1283 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 3: you've gone rid in the face. He goes. Three were 1284 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 3: for me and two were gifts. And I thought, what 1285 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 3: a pile of crapez. 1286 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 24: Spent a lot of petrol on that. To have you 1287 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 24: add up the whole sum total, he. 1288 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 3: Goes in this end, Yeah, the tires. 1289 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 24: That's quite an expensive chocolate. 1290 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, so for people who don't know what to 1291 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 3: buy chocolates. Here's the other weird thing. The other weird 1292 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 3: thing is it's sold out of a woman's house. There's 1293 01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 3: no shop, apparently the Nightmark it's the Botany night Markets. 1294 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 24: It's gone viral. It's a big, it's a it's an iconic. 1295 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's the problem. It's not iconic and 1296 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 3: it's not cult. It's on social media exactly, and a 1297 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 3: bunch of losers on social media hoping their importantness and 1298 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 3: r thirty fives and gun their way to tacking they 1299 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 3: and chocolate from Sharon who cannot believe her luck. In 1300 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 3: the number of sers, it'd be like somebody listening to 1301 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 3: a radio show and hearing an idiot talk about kim 1302 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 3: Chief fakes. That's actually and. 1303 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,840 Speaker 12: I think I think they're also sold out of a 1304 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 12: woman's house now that I think of it. 1305 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 25: Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you, Glenn. Think you're necessary corrective here. 1306 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 24: Now the Kimchi Sprinkles, that's a legit company. I don't 1307 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 24: think that's coming out of a house. I mean, I 1308 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 24: think it's a married couple who run it, But I 1309 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,560 Speaker 24: think it's a legit company. 1310 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 3: So it's. 1311 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 12: So it can't be a legit company. Ef it's run 1312 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 12: out of under its Yeah, Kate, before you. 1313 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 17: Okay, you just donated about half the small businesses in 1314 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 17: our country. 1315 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 3: Come on that are you anti k Are you anti business? Katie? 1316 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,920 Speaker 24: I resilved from that commune immediately. Don't get the BA 1317 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 24: on me for goodness sake. 1318 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 25: Hey, guys, can you can you stop? Can you stop 1319 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 25: me explaining to Katie. 1320 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to back up, Katie, it's not fair. I 1321 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 3: need to take a break. Hey, we need to very 1322 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 3: quickly get onto Luke Combs because he's coming and tickets. 1323 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 17: Yeah, and I need to get on. I need to 1324 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 17: get on a problem that you've got that I want 1325 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 17: to unpack. 1326 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 3: So yes, coming out problem. How I'm just writing down 1327 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 3: the stuff we need to cover on the second half 1328 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 3: problem to unpack and Luke Comb's tickets more than thirteen 1329 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 3: past eight. 1330 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 2: The Weekend Review with two degrees bringing smart business Solutions 1331 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 2: to the table. 1332 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 3: Stand by Tim Katie. OMG. A lot of this, OMG. 1333 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 3: I run my business from home, Kate. It's very legit. 1334 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 3: There's a lot of you can't. You can't bag the sneeze, 1335 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:02,880 Speaker 3: you can't smee bag. 1336 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,400 Speaker 24: I'm not I'm not being the I'm not No, I've 1337 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 24: been misconstrained, Tim. 1338 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 3: Problem is what. 1339 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 25: Well, some people have drinking problems. But I wonder if 1340 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 25: you have a vacuum cleaning problem? Can I can I 1341 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 25: just ask you? Do you want to vacuum a lot 1342 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,920 Speaker 25: earlier than most people would think reasonable? I think we 1343 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 25: know the answer to that, don't we. 1344 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:31,919 Speaker 3: Do I vacuum most earlier than most people would deem reasonable? Yes? 1345 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 3: Is that like you're in the day in the day, 1346 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 3: will I vacuum it? About? What would win? 1347 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 23: I for? 1348 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 3: Four am? Ye? The answer up? We're into it four 1349 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 3: am yep. Okay, okay. 1350 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,439 Speaker 25: Do you find yourself passing vacuum cleaner shops that aren't 1351 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:48,120 Speaker 25: on the way home. 1352 01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 3: No, why, I just want to. 1353 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 25: Because I just I just think it's with alcohol. 1354 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,840 Speaker 17: Okay, Yeah, so look, I just want to how much 1355 01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,439 Speaker 17: saliva have you got in your mouth at the moment? 1356 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 13: What is this about? 1357 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 25: I'm going to play something, yes, and I need I 1358 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 25: need Glenn to just to just to watch you and 1359 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 25: you need to assess internal internally. So just have a 1360 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 25: listen to this. 1361 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:17,120 Speaker 3: Okay. 1362 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 24: Now I'm going to turn it up. 1363 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:26,920 Speaker 17: Just see how much the liver and the god? 1364 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 5: What is this? 1365 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 25: Is there more? Is there more saliva? 1366 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 3: You see? 1367 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 25: I think I just wonder a vacuum The sound of 1368 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 25: a vacuum cleaner gets you drawling? 1369 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well of course it does. Yeah, why wouldn't it? 1370 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 3: Especially Adon, You've. 1371 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 25: Got to go it's actually it's not a Dyson. But anyway, 1372 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:47,680 Speaker 25: that's another story. 1373 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 3: Is I think you've got to go to a group. 1374 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 3: It's a melee. Oh, nothing wrong with the Oh it's 1375 01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 3: amazing experience. How you find the melee? 1376 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 25: How it's great, it's great for vacuuming the home office. 1377 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with the melee. It's a bad though. 1378 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 24: Where where your theorious flawed? Tim? 1379 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 5: Is that? 1380 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 24: But he starts everything than most people. He's drinking espresso 1381 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 24: at three am because because of his hours, in the 1382 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,120 Speaker 24: nature of everything he does than most people. So it's 1383 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 24: it's by default. 1384 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 25: Okay, as his as his beloved, you would say that 1385 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,120 Speaker 25: the vacuuming is sort of in order generally, that's not 1386 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 25: there's not an obsessive quality to it. 1387 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 3: No cleanliness. For you, tim cleanliness is next to godliness. 1388 01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 3: I rest my case. Do we briefly, Katie want to 1389 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 3: mention our younger stories that still all on the on 1390 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 3: the Q tail. 1391 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 24: We can't talk about her really at all. 1392 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 3: Even last night. 1393 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 24: Oh yeah, they had she she she she, she won 1394 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 24: a couple of trophies performing. 1395 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:55,440 Speaker 3: Don't say like that. 1396 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,440 Speaker 24: It was very there's a lot of amazing. What I'm 1397 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 24: always impressed with when I go to School of Events 1398 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 24: is how much talent there is. You know, there are 1399 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 24: young people out there doing incredible things, and they're talented, 1400 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 24: and they're into it and they're so clever, and I'm 1401 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,479 Speaker 24: just proud of all of them. Actually, it's a really 1402 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 24: it's always you always hear all the negative stuff about youth, 1403 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:14,920 Speaker 24: and we don't often hear how many of them are 1404 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 24: actually doing really well. 1405 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 3: Most of them are, aren't they? And that's that's that's 1406 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 3: a very good reminder. But I think, but I think 1407 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 3: for our youngster who came home with two trophies, I mean, 1408 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 3: certificate's one thing, but trophies are different and fantastic. And 1409 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 3: a Shakespeare prize. I think all schools have a Shakespeare prize. 1410 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,760 Speaker 3: Don't Shakespeare prize everyone who? 1411 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 24: I think the Shakespeare thing is like everyone who participates 1412 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,240 Speaker 24: in the special Shakespeare thing gets. 1413 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 3: The Shakespeare Price. 1414 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 24: Yeah, but the trophies have her name on them, which 1415 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 24: was she was very excited about. 1416 01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 3: That's very good. A quick question, Yes, quick question. Yes, 1417 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,080 Speaker 3: we're actually quite quite. 1418 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,280 Speaker 17: Quite are going to Are we going to be Are 1419 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 17: we going to be jumping in a fast car deciding 1420 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 17: that being never oak our hearts and get ourselves some 1421 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 17: beautiful crazy Yeah? 1422 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah we will. How much is see? Here's the thing. 1423 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 3: This is the boss, Jason, who's from music radio, and 1424 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,880 Speaker 3: here's I'm going to put this out here. He he 1425 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 3: doesn't think Luke COM's going to sell out to Eden Parks. 1426 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 24: I worried about that too. I thought, oh two Eden Parks, 1427 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,759 Speaker 24: I'd go one. But he's been very bullish going. 1428 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,920 Speaker 3: To That's what I said, I said this. You do 1429 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 3: not announce two concerts if you don't know you're selling 1430 01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 3: out to You announced one, then you go, well, who 1431 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 3: would have thought? I think, Thanks New Zealand will have 1432 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,080 Speaker 3: a second one. But they've gone to. They've gone to 1433 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 3: with the prospect of three. Is what I'm saying. Well, 1434 01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,639 Speaker 3: we'll be there, won't we We'll be there. Of course 1435 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,280 Speaker 3: we'll be there. It's fantastic. Who doesn't want to be 1436 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,840 Speaker 3: outdoors on a January night with a lot of drunk 1437 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:54,920 Speaker 3: people at a country music concert? Goodness, won't you be well? 1438 01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,760 Speaker 25: You can, you can, you can take you can take 1439 01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,480 Speaker 25: your dison and clean up afterwards. 1440 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,519 Speaker 3: There you go, don't you wind it up for me 1441 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:05,559 Speaker 3: one more time? Glynn? What you beck. 1442 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:07,000 Speaker 14: On? 1443 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:15,360 Speaker 3: Wait a minute? That was my that to run the commentary, 1444 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 3: to run the commentary with it. By the way, look 1445 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,920 Speaker 3: up Katie for you. Zach Bryan this morning. 1446 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 24: Yes, he got a new song. 1447 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:27,680 Speaker 3: No, he's having to apologize because he was drunk and 1448 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:32,080 Speaker 3: he was texting. And who did who did he go after? 1449 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:32,400 Speaker 2: No? 1450 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 3: Not small, not sms, not smeez. Who did he go after? 1451 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 8: Oh? 1452 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 3: My goodness, Taylor and Travis. Oh just just look, just 1453 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,640 Speaker 3: look'll discuss it. 1454 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 24: Want you to have pop culture teas every. 1455 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 3: I'm trying to revive our relationship and I'll find you 1456 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,360 Speaker 3: more more and more down that particular track. So I'm 1457 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 3: trying to be trying to be hip to the moment 1458 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 3: and grew like what you're doing. Just just it's all 1459 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 3: about the energy you brings, all about the romance. That's 1460 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,320 Speaker 3: exactly what it is. Tim. Nice to see you guys. 1461 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,320 Speaker 3: You have a good weekend and we'll see an expirit 1462 01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,040 Speaker 3: at morning. Tim and Katie, it is eight twenty two 1463 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 3: asking come I think us telling you we voted yes 1464 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 3: at the UN on the sort of the resolution. None 1465 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,759 Speaker 3: of this matters. It's all complete irrelevancy. To the extent 1466 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,679 Speaker 3: the UN does nothing and voting means nothing and nothing 1467 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 3: comes out of it anyway. We voted yes on a 1468 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 3: resolution to sort of a two state solution to get 1469 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:30,719 Speaker 3: Israel out of the Gaza area, et cetera. The thinking 1470 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,120 Speaker 3: was Australia would do the same because people like Penny Wong, 1471 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,040 Speaker 3: Kevin Rude, all those guys very much in favor of 1472 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,120 Speaker 3: Palestinian state, two state solution, all that sort of stuff. 1473 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,679 Speaker 3: They ended up voting no because the things that Peters 1474 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 3: was concerned about. Here some of the text instead of 1475 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,840 Speaker 3: acquiescing and voting yes and going on, we didn't like 1476 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,720 Speaker 3: some of the texts they said. Couldn't get it to 1477 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 3: agree or a line, so we voted no anyway more 1478 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,240 Speaker 3: with Murray Oults in a couple of moments after the news, 1479 01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,120 Speaker 3: which is next you at Newstalksz'd be. 1480 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:04,600 Speaker 2: Trusted Sauce for news and fews, The Mic Hosking Breakfast 1481 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,919 Speaker 2: with al Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News. 1482 01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:13,800 Speaker 3: Togs headv The Bonetta Pistacio. Chocolate's yummy also and cheaper, Mike, 1483 01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,560 Speaker 3: if you want to try fantastic chocolate, try the Volcanic 1484 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:21,280 Speaker 3: Chocolates Chocolate fish and don't try it. Don't knock it 1485 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,960 Speaker 3: to you. Try it. Apparently it's apparently it's the stuff. 1486 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,760 Speaker 3: And what's in it. It's got biscuit canefie. It's got 1487 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 3: the caneffe in it. So that's who doesn't Who doesn't 1488 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,640 Speaker 3: love caneffi? Twenty two minutes away from nine. 1489 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 18: International Correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance Feace of Mind 1490 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 18: for New Zealand Business. 1491 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:43,600 Speaker 3: Murray Olds is with us. 1492 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,759 Speaker 5: Murray, Good morning, Michael, very good morning. 1493 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 3: Do you find it difficult to work with young producers? 1494 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,200 Speaker 3: Has that been your situation over the years. 1495 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,599 Speaker 4: I know, I'm very welcoming embracing of all ages. 1496 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,200 Speaker 5: They can all bring something, you know. 1497 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,559 Speaker 4: I just don't understand what a lot of them are 1498 01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,040 Speaker 4: saying because they talk a different language. Is a different 1499 01:11:59,080 --> 01:11:59,600 Speaker 4: English to me. 1500 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:05,600 Speaker 3: My my producer drives like hundreds of kilometers right to 1501 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,439 Speaker 3: get what have you heard of Dubai chocolate? 1502 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 14: No? 1503 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 3: I haven't, Okay, So to Bai chocolate is this thing 1504 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,639 Speaker 3: that presumably came out of Dubai and it's got caneffee 1505 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 3: in it? 1506 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:16,160 Speaker 1: Do you know what is? 1507 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:17,920 Speaker 5: I have no idea? 1508 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,240 Speaker 3: No, no, exactly not that do I? So anyway, notither 1509 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,680 Speaker 3: do they, But that doesn't stop them driving hundreds of 1510 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,160 Speaker 3: kilometers to go buy. 1511 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,559 Speaker 4: You can go past a buzz bar or chocolate fish 1512 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,440 Speaker 4: there a chunks are magnificent. 1513 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,960 Speaker 3: There it is, there it is, And that's the age 1514 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,519 Speaker 3: old common seats that we need more of. 1515 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,120 Speaker 5: Now you're putting your buzz bars in the freezer, Yeah 1516 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:36,479 Speaker 5: you got. 1517 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:37,760 Speaker 3: Oh you've got to have the buzz bar and the 1518 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:42,000 Speaker 3: freezer absolutely otherwise they're too soft. That applies also to 1519 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,439 Speaker 3: wine gums. I found over the years. You make a 1520 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 3: nice chewy wine gum, not a soft Your unemployment rate 1521 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 3: at four point two is better than ours. And held, 1522 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 3: are we getting to the sort of the light at 1523 01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 3: the end of the tunnel vibe about the economy or not? 1524 01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,320 Speaker 4: Yes, and no, four point two a very good number. 1525 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:00,840 Speaker 4: It is the same number as the previous month. But 1526 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,639 Speaker 4: here's the thing. In the August figures, nearly fifty thousand 1527 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,919 Speaker 4: jobs were created. Sounds great on the surface, but every 1528 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 4: single one of them almost was a part time job. 1529 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,719 Speaker 4: Now what does that say, Well, it says that people 1530 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,639 Speaker 4: are not hiring full time employees because, as Joe uncertain, 1531 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,760 Speaker 4: in a very difficult and challenging financial environment. Over here, 1532 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 4: inflation stubbornly sticky. Labor says it's cut inflation in half, 1533 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,840 Speaker 4: and that's true, but it's still well above that two 1534 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,400 Speaker 4: to three percent inflation target. The Reserve Bank says we 1535 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,759 Speaker 4: must hit before it's going to start cutting interest rates. 1536 01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:37,240 Speaker 5: So you've got this. 1537 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,240 Speaker 4: People are working, Yes, they're working longer hours, more people 1538 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 4: are looking for work. The opposition over here, Mike is saying, 1539 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 4: as you might expect, they're trying to capitalize on what 1540 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 4: is it fairly decent number, it says, yeah. But here's 1541 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 4: the thing families are doing. It's so bloody tough, so hard. 1542 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 4: Kids are reading week books for dinner. That people are 1543 01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,839 Speaker 4: going out looking for second jobs to try and supplement 1544 01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:58,879 Speaker 4: the household income. 1545 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 5: So there's good news and bad news. 1546 01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,160 Speaker 4: The politics on either side they're spinning for all that worth. 1547 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,600 Speaker 4: As far as interest rates are concerned, of course, that 1548 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 4: half percent cut from the US Central Bank twenty four 1549 01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,200 Speaker 4: hours ago, is that putting pressure on Australia will not 1550 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 4: absolutely not. According to the Reserve Bank, that's not going 1551 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,559 Speaker 4: to budge. The Reserve Bank will not be budging. So 1552 01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:22,760 Speaker 4: you can rule out any of this talk about early 1553 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,280 Speaker 4: elections and double disillusions and all the rest of it. 1554 01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,240 Speaker 5: There's no way Albanize is going to. 1555 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:31,320 Speaker 4: Go to the polls while this economic challenge remained. 1556 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,559 Speaker 3: Speaking of which the media Cinema, Herald Daily Mail made 1557 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,439 Speaker 3: a bit of it yesterday. Albanese was in the ABC 1558 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 3: with a woman whose name I can't. 1559 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,479 Speaker 5: Remember, Patricia Carbell, Yes, and she. 1560 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,000 Speaker 3: Said fed etc. He goes, oh, well, they're cutting interest 1561 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,479 Speaker 3: rates because the American economy is much slower than ours, 1562 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,479 Speaker 3: which of course is completely and utterly incorrect, and so 1563 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 3: every economist in Australia piles and is he being hurt 1564 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,280 Speaker 3: by that sort of stuff? Is he actually in does 1565 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:55,960 Speaker 3: he know what he's talking about or is this just 1566 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:56,559 Speaker 3: a bad day? 1567 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:57,520 Speaker 5: It's politics? 1568 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:01,880 Speaker 4: One oh one, ALBANIZI look at Luxeon in New Zealand. 1569 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,200 Speaker 4: They will say to you what they want to say. 1570 01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,679 Speaker 4: They won't answer your questions. There's no Bob Hawks anymore. 1571 01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:11,519 Speaker 4: There's no dare I say, Norm Kirks anymore. Are Paul Keating's. 1572 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,759 Speaker 4: These were leaders who spoke their mind. Now they're terrified. 1573 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,840 Speaker 4: They can't stray from the script in case someone says, buddy, hell, 1574 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,599 Speaker 4: look what Albaneze said this morning. Look but Luxon suggested, 1575 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 4: Oh they're terrified, and they're managed by their media teams 1576 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 4: to with an enswer their lives. God of the days 1577 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,640 Speaker 4: we had to get an honest answer from any of 1578 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,720 Speaker 4: these politicians, don't you, Reckon. They tell us what they 1579 01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:32,880 Speaker 4: what they want to tell us. 1580 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,480 Speaker 5: They won't answer questions. 1581 01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:35,400 Speaker 3: Just true, Hey, I tell you what this time you 1582 01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,800 Speaker 3: started talking and we voted yes at the UN Normally 1583 01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,439 Speaker 3: they don't raise you inn issues because it sort of 1584 01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,599 Speaker 3: doesn't go anywhere. Who cares. But we voted yes on 1585 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,720 Speaker 3: the Gaza Palestinian thing, which semi surprised me because we 1586 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:47,519 Speaker 3: didn't like the text. 1587 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:47,800 Speaker 5: One. 1588 01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,920 Speaker 3: I thought she's all pro Palestinian and all that stuff. 1589 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,600 Speaker 3: I thought you'd be laid down massa yes and you 1590 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,560 Speaker 3: came out with a no, which makes us no. 1591 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 5: We didn't say no Australia. 1592 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was because you could get the text. 1593 01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:02,360 Speaker 5: That's right, that's right. 1594 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,719 Speaker 4: And I heard Penny Wong last night on the Evening 1595 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:09,080 Speaker 4: Current Affairs radio program and she was making the point 1596 01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:12,160 Speaker 4: that Australia did want amendments to the text as far 1597 01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,000 Speaker 4: as Australia was concerned, it was too. 1598 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,759 Speaker 5: Strong anti Israel was too strong. 1599 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 4: And it's a very live issue over here, as she 1600 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,120 Speaker 4: can appreciate, I'm sure you understand all that. 1601 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 5: So as fat look. 1602 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:28,680 Speaker 4: The resolution demanded in Israeli an end to Israeli Palestinian occupation, 1603 01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,240 Speaker 4: all Australia wouldn't have been happy with that particular part 1604 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,959 Speaker 4: of the text, the resolution drafted of the Palestinian Authority 1605 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,439 Speaker 4: demanding an end to Israel's quote unlawful presence in Gaza 1606 01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:41,360 Speaker 4: in the occupied West Bank unquote. Well that's just dynamite, 1607 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 4: you know, it's too hot for Australia in the current climate. 1608 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:50,000 Speaker 5: Even the abstention, though the oppositions come out said. 1609 01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,559 Speaker 4: Well, Australia was gutless, that should have said yes and 1610 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,519 Speaker 4: all the rest of it. Australia is not satisfied with 1611 01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,840 Speaker 4: the wording. And these are very, very febrile times, very 1612 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,160 Speaker 4: you know, it's it's extremely challenging. 1613 01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,760 Speaker 5: Right set of words. Yeah, so we're on the side 1614 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:05,120 Speaker 5: of caution. 1615 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,200 Speaker 3: I suspect now, I suppose does this work from home thing? 1616 01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:09,040 Speaker 5: Yep. 1617 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,599 Speaker 3: I might be completely out of touch, but my understanding 1618 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 3: in New Zealand is the vast majority of people are 1619 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,720 Speaker 3: back at work. Those who aren't to do a sort 1620 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 3: of four to one, three to two whatever. Everyone seems 1621 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,639 Speaker 3: moderately happy with it. It is what it is. It's 1622 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,840 Speaker 3: settled down. It's not been the thing internationally that it 1623 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,160 Speaker 3: appears to have been, and including in Australia. 1624 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,799 Speaker 5: Look, a lot of people are a lot of big business. 1625 01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,640 Speaker 4: I mean that some of the big banks, the you know, 1626 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,200 Speaker 4: the biggest employers are saying to their staff, come on back, 1627 01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 4: We're not interested in doing any work from home stuff anymore. 1628 01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 5: Those days are gone. We want you back. 1629 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 4: You're more productive when you're in the office. You know, 1630 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,920 Speaker 4: in some cases, if you've got a young family, say 1631 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,680 Speaker 4: you'd be allowed to do a couple of days if 1632 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,000 Speaker 4: there's a medical reason why. You know, you're a valued employee, 1633 01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,559 Speaker 4: but you for a medical reason that may have developed 1634 01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 4: post COVID, you'll be able to keep working from home too. 1635 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,880 Speaker 4: It's going to be common sense. But look, most businesses, 1636 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,240 Speaker 4: in most circumstances want most of their staff back. And 1637 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,760 Speaker 4: you just look around the Sydney CBD. I'll walk up 1638 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,559 Speaker 4: and down George to it, get down to Circular Key 1639 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,640 Speaker 4: and the like. There's a lot of places that are 1640 01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:18,360 Speaker 4: really struggling, little cafes, midday restaurants for lunch. They're not busy, 1641 01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 4: and this is a big problem. They want to get 1642 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,799 Speaker 4: the inner city economy going again. 1643 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:24,840 Speaker 5: And how do you do that. 1644 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,879 Speaker 4: You get people back into the CBD, buying lunch, buying 1645 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:29,439 Speaker 4: the evening meals and so on. 1646 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:37,639 Speaker 3: To work a couple on a Friday afternoon. Enough coupler 1647 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,800 Speaker 3: skin is on a Friday. This blitter is low. We 1648 01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,880 Speaker 3: had Will Jordan on earlier and I didn't ask him 1649 01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:44,960 Speaker 3: because he probably didn't know. But you're in the middle 1650 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,360 Speaker 3: of the NRL final season AFL final seasons is the 1651 01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:49,640 Speaker 3: bledders like getting any cut for. 1652 01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,320 Speaker 4: A little bit amongst the rugby ficionaridos, and don't forget 1653 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,120 Speaker 4: over here. You've got Sydney and Brisbane. They are the 1654 01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:58,719 Speaker 4: only real rugby cities. And look there's a bit of interest. 1655 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,680 Speaker 4: There will be a decent crowd. I at of the 1656 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,519 Speaker 4: Olympic Stadium. There's a couple of flies in the ointment. 1657 01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,120 Speaker 4: I mean there's going to be a big rail strike 1658 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:06,840 Speaker 4: tomorrow and that's about the only way you can get 1659 01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,920 Speaker 4: out to Olympic Park. Look, the other thing is too 1660 01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:13,200 Speaker 4: Australia is fearing another flogging. New Zealand went to South 1661 01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:15,960 Speaker 4: Africa narrow losses to the best team in the world 1662 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,680 Speaker 4: by a country mile, and poor old Australia. They were 1663 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,679 Speaker 4: twenty points to three up against Argentina and they finished 1664 01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,919 Speaker 4: up on the end of a sixty seven forty seven flogging. 1665 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,680 Speaker 4: I mean in the second half it was like Teava schoolboys. 1666 01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,599 Speaker 4: So there's that mindset that Australian rugby is getting hammered. 1667 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:33,960 Speaker 4: A lot of people are saying, oh, why have you 1668 01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 4: got a bloody ki we coach? Sure, because he's the 1669 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:37,439 Speaker 4: best going around. 1670 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 5: Thanks not too many Australians. But do you want Eddie 1671 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:40,519 Speaker 5: Jones back? 1672 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:41,599 Speaker 3: Do you please? 1673 01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,879 Speaker 5: So here's the thing. Beware the wounded wallaby. 1674 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,240 Speaker 4: Twenty two yards, twenty two years since they've had it. 1675 01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,000 Speaker 4: And look Nick White's back. The last time they won 1676 01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,559 Speaker 4: it Olympic Park. Nick White was the half back, so 1677 01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:58,320 Speaker 4: he's a little yapper. But you'd have to say the 1678 01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,439 Speaker 4: all Blacks are going to smack him things. 1679 01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,320 Speaker 3: I think they probably will. And I note the roosters 1680 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,280 Speaker 3: are in for a bit of a pounding tomorrow, Murray. 1681 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 3: Is that possible? 1682 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,679 Speaker 5: Sincerely? Hope? So they get their pants pulled down and spent. 1683 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,439 Speaker 5: Ye bye, mighty manly. I hope that's the case. 1684 01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,479 Speaker 3: Good on you mate, Go well catch up again to 1685 01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:20,960 Speaker 3: Murray Australia for us, see with us next week. Steve's 1686 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:25,320 Speaker 3: back next week. So journing around the Greek Islands. This 1687 01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,560 Speaker 3: show must pay some people well, mustn't it? Fourteen to 1688 01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,880 Speaker 3: two It is eleven minutes away from nine. Mike, you 1689 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:37,800 Speaker 3: pay people well because you're the best. Barbe it from 1690 01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,280 Speaker 3: me to deny the obvious. So the article, and this 1691 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,320 Speaker 3: is why I raised it with Murray. Is that the 1692 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,400 Speaker 3: best thing I read this week? I think almost is 1693 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:50,680 Speaker 3: eighty five billion. Eighty five billion dollars is what Australians 1694 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,800 Speaker 3: have saved by not commuting. It's an incredible number. Is 1695 01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:58,519 Speaker 3: an eighty five billion dollars. Across New South Wales, they 1696 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:03,200 Speaker 3: spent fourteen billion a year on tsport services that collapse 1697 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:07,720 Speaker 3: to five fourteen down to five. It's come back a 1698 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,280 Speaker 3: little bit to twelve point six, but twelve point six 1699 01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,000 Speaker 3: ain't fourteen, and that's before you've taken all the inflationary 1700 01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,400 Speaker 3: aspects of it. In Victoria, transport service spending collapse from 1701 01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:21,720 Speaker 3: ten to one billion. It's come back a bit, but 1702 01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,880 Speaker 3: once again it's nothing compared to what it was. So 1703 01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:29,240 Speaker 3: the cumulative savings to Victorians by basically going home and 1704 01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,639 Speaker 3: no longer commuting and buying their sandwiches at the cafe 1705 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:37,639 Speaker 3: around the corner is thirty victorians is thirty four billion dollars. 1706 01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:41,120 Speaker 3: So that's gone to the suburbs because it's not in 1707 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,639 Speaker 3: the CBD. And that's one of the I suppose economic 1708 01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,160 Speaker 3: conundrums at the moment you've forced people back to workers. 1709 01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,360 Speaker 3: Yes your commutes back, and yes you're buying petrol, and 1710 01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,559 Speaker 3: yes you're running your car, and yes you're buying your 1711 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,280 Speaker 3: orange produce downtown, but suddenly Suburbia starts to be hit 1712 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,920 Speaker 3: because a dollar is spent just geographically depends where it is. 1713 01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 3: Isn't it nine away from nine? 1714 01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:04,120 Speaker 1: Breakfast with the Jagular f Base News Talks FB. 1715 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,120 Speaker 3: It's nearly International Hobbit Day. Do you believe? Yes, there is. 1716 01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,439 Speaker 3: It's a global holiday Hobbit Day. And to celebrate, we've 1717 01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,599 Speaker 3: got the new epic stage production, The Lord of the Rings. 1718 01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,759 Speaker 3: It's got eighty nine dollars tickets for sale until midnight 1719 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,200 Speaker 3: this Sunday. So The Lord of the Rings returns home 1720 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,360 Speaker 3: to Middle Earth to capture our imaginations and hearts like 1721 01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:24,080 Speaker 3: never before. You can experience Tolkien's masterpiece on stage, brand 1722 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:28,040 Speaker 3: new environment, one meticulously crafted and enhanced by studying world 1723 01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,880 Speaker 3: class theatrics and captivating music. You can take your seat 1724 01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:32,920 Speaker 3: in the company of Hobbits. You can join them for 1725 01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,160 Speaker 3: a once in a lifetime theatrical event that will enchant 1726 01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,320 Speaker 3: both lifelong fans and new generations alike. So The Lord 1727 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,360 Speaker 3: of the Rings Musical Tale premiere at the Civic Auckland 1728 01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,360 Speaker 3: from five November. But you'll need to be quick for 1729 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,559 Speaker 3: these tickets because they're going to get snapped up. That's 1730 01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:50,800 Speaker 3: eighty nine dollars tickets until midnight Sunday. Go to l 1731 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,680 Speaker 3: otr on stage dot com to book your tickets. You 1732 01:22:54,800 --> 01:23:01,000 Speaker 3: got that one. L otr on stage dot comsking, Is 1733 01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,120 Speaker 3: that Luke Colmmes thing we're doing still applicable given that 1734 01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:09,720 Speaker 3: we're not drawing it till monday. Let's say it is 1735 01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,280 Speaker 3: because we were giving away a couple of seconds to 1736 01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,960 Speaker 3: Luke Colmbs yesterday and we're not announcing the winner till Monday. 1737 01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,519 Speaker 3: So I'm assuming you can still go to the Facebook 1738 01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 3: page an enter Mike. Did you hear Luxton say to 1739 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,479 Speaker 3: the reporter yesterday we don't care about freaking numbers, we 1740 01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,600 Speaker 3: want outcomes, putting the reporter from his place. Yeah, I did, 1741 01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:26,800 Speaker 3: and they sort of made a bit of a thing 1742 01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,559 Speaker 3: about and he's losing his patience with the media, and 1743 01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,840 Speaker 3: to be frank, I don't blame him. Five away from 1744 01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,560 Speaker 3: nine Trending Now. 1745 01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,439 Speaker 1: Queen Chemist, where house's the home of big brand. 1746 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:43,360 Speaker 3: Ftalmens Right, Mark Robinson, he's a Republican. He's a candidate 1747 01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:46,200 Speaker 3: for governor of North Carolina. This is the number one 1748 01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 3: trending story online in America right now. He put this. 1749 01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to do this backwards. He put this out 1750 01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,599 Speaker 3: before the story came to light. 1751 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:59,840 Speaker 14: Listen, let me reassure you the things that you will 1752 01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,240 Speaker 14: say in that story, those are not the words of 1753 01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:04,160 Speaker 14: Mark Robinson. 1754 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,000 Speaker 3: You know my words, you know my character, and you. 1755 01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,960 Speaker 14: Know that I have been completely transparent in this race 1756 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:15,200 Speaker 14: and before, Folks, this race right now, our opponents are 1757 01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,840 Speaker 14: desperate to shift the focus here from the substantive issues 1758 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 14: and focus on what you are concerned with, to salatious 1759 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,559 Speaker 14: tabloid trash. We can not allow that to happen. And folks, 1760 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,960 Speaker 14: we've seen this type of stuff in the past as well. 1761 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,439 Speaker 14: Clarence Thomas famously once said he was the victim of 1762 01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:33,479 Speaker 14: a high tech lenchend. 1763 01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,320 Speaker 5: Well, it looks like Mark. 1764 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,880 Speaker 14: Robinson is too, by a man who refuses to stand 1765 01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,400 Speaker 14: on stage and debate me about the real issues that 1766 01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:44,719 Speaker 14: face you. Instead, they want to focus on salatious tabloid lies. 1767 01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,559 Speaker 14: We're not gonna let them do that. We are staying 1768 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,639 Speaker 14: in this race. We are in it to win it, right. 1769 01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:51,760 Speaker 3: So that's what he was denying before it came out. 1770 01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,960 Speaker 3: What just came out would come into Allegedly he made 1771 01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,719 Speaker 3: on various pulling sites, called himself a black Nazi, wanted 1772 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,559 Speaker 3: to bring black savory back, admitted to peeping on women 1773 01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,719 Speaker 3: in the shower as an adult, and that he enjoyed 1774 01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,639 Speaker 3: transgender porn, despite a lot of his campaign being against 1775 01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:08,599 Speaker 3: transgender porn. 1776 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:10,759 Speaker 12: Well, that just sounds like salacious tabloid gossip. 1777 01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,120 Speaker 3: Sounds like salacious tabloid gossip. 1778 01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,960 Speaker 12: How about using Clarence Thomas, perhaps the most famously corrupt 1779 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,439 Speaker 12: political figure in the US, as an example. 1780 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,519 Speaker 3: You spotted that one too. You can still apply for 1781 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:27,200 Speaker 3: tickets to the Luke Combs. The Luke Combs comp lives 1782 01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,080 Speaker 3: throughout the weekend. You can do it until Sunday, so 1783 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:30,599 Speaker 3: there's a fun thing for you to do. If you're 1784 01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,439 Speaker 3: not going to buy some do buy chocolate. Maybe you 1785 01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,000 Speaker 3: can enter the contest and buy du buy chocolate and 1786 01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,320 Speaker 3: enjoy the All Blacks and watch the f one and 1787 01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,240 Speaker 3: then look forward to us coming back on Monday at 1788 01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:43,640 Speaker 3: six o'clock as always, Happy Days. 1789 01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,559 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 1790 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,759 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 1791 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,360 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.