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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends in eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Thank I respond to Murray Olds as with US Anon a.

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Speaker 3: Murray Jack, Very good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: So October seventh was the one year anniversary of the

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Speaker 2: attacks in Israel, and Anthony Albanezi has been getting smashed

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Speaker 2: on the political optics of Israel.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, look there are lots and lots of moving

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Speaker 1: parts and central among them. According to his critics, Anthony Alberniz,

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Speaker 1: he has been more worried about domestic politics than he

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Speaker 1: has been for on the one hand, the extraordinary, hideous,

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Speaker 1: atrocious loss of Israeli lives a year ago at the

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Speaker 1: hands of those butchers from Hamas, but then also failing

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Speaker 1: to call out what Israel's been doing to the civilian

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Speaker 1: population of Gaza, with the United Nations saying at least

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Speaker 1: forty thousand people have been killed by the Israeli response,

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Speaker 1: most of them women and children. So politically he's in

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Speaker 1: a bit of a bind, Albanesi, because many seats that

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Speaker 1: Labour holds in the current Federal Parliament contain some of

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Speaker 1: the largest populations of Middle East Muslim people that have

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Speaker 1: moved and migrated to Australia. So he's very anxious, clearly

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Speaker 1: anxious given the closest of the upcoming election that Labor.

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Speaker 1: For obvious reasons, Jack has not wanted to upset and

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Speaker 1: eighty and eight, those very important voters in those very

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Speaker 1: important seats, and he's been getting kicked silly by Peter

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Speaker 1: Dutton in the Opposition over this. So finally, after twelve

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Speaker 1: puts up a motion that condemns the Harmas attack. Says

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Speaker 1: that Israel and the Jews around the world will always

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Speaker 1: have a day of pain on the anniversary of what happened,

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Speaker 1: and it must have been a cruel eternity, he said,

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Speaker 1: since the loss of twelve hundred lives and the kidnapping

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Speaker 1: of two hundred and fifty more Jews. But Peter Dutton

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Speaker 1: has slapped him silly. When it comes to will you

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Speaker 1: support this motion as condemnation, Dunton says no, because the

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Speaker 1: motion refers to every life matters, a reference there to

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Speaker 1: the Palestinian people who have been killed. Dunton says that

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Speaker 1: should only be about October seventh last year. It should

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Speaker 1: only about the be about the Hamas attack.

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Speaker 3: On Israel. That's where it starts and finishes.

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Speaker 1: And I was reminded when I heard Dutton speaking of

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Speaker 1: the Parliament today thirty one years ago nineteen ninety three,

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Speaker 1: Paul Keating stands up in the Parliament leans across the

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Speaker 1: leans across and says, mate, I'm going.

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Speaker 3: To do you slowly.

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Speaker 1: And it's just one of those epic keathing one liners

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Speaker 1: that just resounded down the years. And that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: it's like for Albanize. He doesn't know which way to turn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can see that.

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Speaker 2: Politically, I mean, this is so tough. This is such

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Speaker 2: a fraught subject everywhere, right, but especially it.

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Speaker 1: Is what's happening in the United l Y I think

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Speaker 1: with the president and elected it away, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean that, but the populations in Australia. You have a

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Speaker 2: large Muslim population, a large Palestine and large Lebanese population,

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Speaker 2: but also Jewish lage popular exactly a large Jewish population,

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Speaker 2: and so there's just.

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Speaker 3: You know, it is.

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Speaker 2: You can just see how fraught this is for a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for fifty two straight weeks.

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Speaker 1: Is an outfit called the Palestine Action Group which has

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Speaker 3: Streets of Sydney.

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Speaker 1: We're mainly in Hyde Park, which for those who know

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Speaker 1: of thousands of people go to these rallies every single week,

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Speaker 3: Ever since that a trustedy happened.

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Speaker 1: Well, the government has saent to this morning the pretty

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Speaker 1: broad Head. It's looking at changing the rules around whether

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Speaker 1: you can and cannot keep on demonstrating every single week.

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Speaker 1: The Premier is still up this morning Chris Men's at

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Speaker 1: a doorstop and said, listen, the cost of taxpayers is

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Speaker 1: police resources is also becoming unsustainable because every time as

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Speaker 3: It's just a fact of life. You have to have that.

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Speaker 1: And what Men's was saying this morning again This is

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Speaker 1: He said, listen, you're allowed to protest, but we're going

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Speaker 1: do that because it's the Supreme Court the New South

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Speaker 1: no law against protesting. It's a free country. But what

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Speaker 1: Men's is trying to do is maybe set the stage

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Speaker 1: say no, you can't do it this Sunday because we

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Speaker 3: So where this is going to land I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I spoke to both sides today when I was in

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Speaker 1: the newsroom and there's absolutely no possible resolution inside as

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Speaker 2: And you've got the opposition leader or the ex opposition

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Speaker 2: leader of South Australia now leaving parliament and then a

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Speaker 2: drugs scandal.

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Speaker 3: This is a mess. His name's David Spears. He's thirty

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Speaker 3: nine years old.

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Speaker 1: He is the former Liberal leader in South Australia, as

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Speaker 1: you say, stepped down as opposition leader eight weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: and that was eight weeks before South Australian Police confirmed

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Speaker 1: he was facing two charges of supplying illegal drugs. Police

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Speaker 1: apparently raided two properties, one on Adelaide, one out on

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Speaker 1: the South Australian Riverland. Beautiful part of the world. There

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Speaker 1: they grow wine and all sorts of fruit and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: That must be his holiday home anyway, Spears reportedly cocaine

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Speaker 1: is the drug involved here. You don't know that from

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Speaker 1: police at this point. That's only what's being reported. But

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Speaker 1: David Spears, denying all the allegations, says his mental health

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Speaker 1: has been sliding, not surprisingly, needs to be with his

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Speaker 1: family and quote, he hasn't been my best self.

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Speaker 3: Well hello, come in, spinner.

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Speaker 1: He's at a hell of a time and only a

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Speaker 1: minute ago he was you know, I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: next premiere. Well sadly no, and just mind the door

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Speaker 1: doesn't hit you on the bum on the way out.

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Speaker 2: And murray. Finally, are all the Aussies who want out

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Speaker 2: of Lebanon out?

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Speaker 3: No they're not. There are still many, many more.

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Speaker 1: The government is arranging flights In fact, the first one

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Speaker 1: got in last night to Sydney. More are planned. I

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Speaker 1: think a couple of planned this evening. I think they're

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Speaker 1: only coming into Sydney. There were about fifteen sixteen thousand Australians.

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Speaker 3: Living in Lebanon or visiting Lebanon.

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Speaker 1: That was the number that popped up last week when

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Speaker 1: the Israeli invasion began. The government said, listen, whatever you

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Speaker 1: can get on a flight, don't worry about it as

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Speaker 1: not to Dubai, or it's not through London or Paris.

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Speaker 1: Get out of there if you can. So the government

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Speaker 1: is doing its best too. As long as the Beirut

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Speaker 1: International Airport remains open, the government says, we'll keep on

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Speaker 1: putting on flights to get Ozzie's home.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for your time, really appreciate it. Harry Murray

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Speaker 2: Olds are Australian correspondent.

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Speaker 3: They're just so you know.

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Speaker 2: In the last few minutes, Roy Morgan has released its

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Speaker 2: September New Zealand Politics poll. You know they poll on

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Speaker 2: New Zealand politics every month. It shows that the Coalition

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Speaker 2: government support has increased again, up two points to fifty

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Speaker 2: five percent now, which is a very comfortable lead over

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Speaker 2: the Labor, Greens to Party Maldi opposition that's down now

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Speaker 2: at forty one percent. So I'll give you the baseline

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Speaker 2: numbers for the parties that are in parliament. National is

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Speaker 2: up one point five percent according to Roy Morgan to

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Speaker 2: thirty seven point five. Labour is down three point five

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Speaker 2: to twenty three percent. The Greens have gone up one

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Speaker 2: which is remarkable given the Darling Tonner situation continues there

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Speaker 2: at fourteen percent, Actors at ten percent, up half a percent.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand vers unchanged at seven point five, to Party

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Speaker 2: Maldi at four percent fourteen to five. You're with Jack Tamed.

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