1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Government's banned puberty block of pbscriptions for new patients it's 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: under eighteen's those who are transgender. Ban comes into effect 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: from the nineteenth and December last until the UK finishes 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: clinical trials into the drugs. They say this is about safety. 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: Dame Sue Bagshaw is School of Medicine, University of Otago, 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: christ Church. Dame Sue, good morning, good morning, Good to 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: have you on the show. Are these drugs safe? 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: Well, the experience we've had so far of the last 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: ten twenty years has been that they're very safe, They're reversible, 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: and I think obviously we always need to be aware 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: of safety. We always need to be aware of the 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: pros and cons of ani medicine we've prescribed. But it 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: seems sad that politicians get involved in something that really 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: should be a health issue. 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: Is the health issue being sorted though? I mean, are 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: we giving out drugs that aren't safe? Why it was 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: the UK doing this study into the safety of them. 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: Why around bureaucrats saying we can't say that they are safe. 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: That's a very good question, and I wondered about myself 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: because we have no evidence either way. What we do 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: we have some evidence, so that they're pretty safe and 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: we have had no disasters so far compared with things 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: like aspirin, which is pretty unsafe and you can buy 24 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: that over the counter. So, you know, I think it's 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: a it's a worry that we're getting political influences on 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: what could be a very life saving medicine. 27 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: So the Ministry of Education, the sorry, the Ministry of 28 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: Health here in New Zealand, the UK, you know, the 29 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: NH is the concerns that have been raised by government 30 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: bureaucrats around the world. You're saying they're being politicized. 31 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: I do gender is a social intent and I think 32 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: social influences are being brought to bear names. 33 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: Sue Bergshaw, appreciate your time this morning, School of Medicine 34 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: at the University of a Tiger, christ Church. For more 35 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live to News Talks. 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: It'd be from five am weekdays, or follow the podcast 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio.