1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Now it looks like potentially another major film premiere, maybe 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: on its way to the Capitol. Turns out that a 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: deal was signed about a decade ago that one of 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: the future Avatar films produced in New Zealand must hold 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: a local premiere if the studio wants to receive its 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: rebate payment. Christopher Finlayson, the former Minister for Arts, Culture 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: and Heritage, struck that initial dealings with us. 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Now, hey, Chris, hello, Heather Hou's life. 9 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: Very well, thank you. Do you think they're going to 10 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: come good on this deal? 11 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for your kindness and saying I struck 12 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: the deal. But it was really Patsy Ready, who was 13 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: then chair of the Film Commission, who got this sort 14 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: of thing going, and John Key, who worked very closely 15 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: with Warners to make sure that the Union Wreckers didn't 16 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: achieve what they wanted to achieve. So he saved Lord 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: of the Rings and then Avatar followed on from that 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: and it's been tremendous for Wellington. So it's really good news. 19 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: And so basically the same thing was done. So do 20 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: you think they're going to come good on it? 21 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: Well? I hope. So I enjoyed the first Avatar, the 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: second one, I got a bit sick of it because 23 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: it was so much blue all around you. 24 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: You don't strike me as an avatar viewer. 25 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: I wasn't. When all said and done, I don't think 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: I was an avatarist. But nonetheless, look, if it means 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: the red carpet can be rolled out in front of 28 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: the embassy, that's fantastic. I remember walking along the red 29 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: carpet to the Lord of the Rings. I thought a 30 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: bit of a deck doing it, and several people I 31 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: heard say who's that guy? So my profile as a 32 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: minister was never particularly high. 33 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: Now Chris explains something to me, why are you mates 34 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: with the Maori party who are up for the old 35 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: punishment debate tomorrow? 36 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: Well, I just sort of take the approach. If someone 37 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 2: approaches me to do a job, then I'm ethically bound 38 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: to do it, if I'm not in conflict with the 39 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: particular task, and if I'm guaranteed is to payment and 40 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: so on. So lawyers operate on what's known as the 41 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: cab Rank rule, and you don't sort of I can 42 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: choose you've got a duty to the court and a 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: duty to the client. 44 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: Okay, and do you think that is twenty one day 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: suspension too much. 46 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I just think of the night I remember 47 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: Toehnra coming and saying, oh, hell, I've just had a 48 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: scrap with Mallard and the lobby. Well that would be 49 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: at the higher end of oafish behavior which would warrant 50 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: or suspension. And they both nothing happened. 51 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: Because sorry, because this lot didn't say that sorry. And 52 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: then they thumb their nose at the Privileges Committee, and 53 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: then they released the recommend dab whatever. The Privileges Committee acting. 54 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeather you know, you know in the house, when must 55 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: find of some police stand and apologize, I was drawing apologize. 56 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: No one means an apology, so they. 57 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: Probably if these ones don't even want to perform it. 58 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: Well, the way the whole thing was handled, I think 59 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: was unfortunate. I don't want to slag off the Privileges Committee. 60 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: I chaired it for six years. I would have dealt 61 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: with it differently. There are ways of dealing with these things, 62 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: and the sledgehammer approach, which commends itself to the Privileges 63 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: Committee of today is not the one I would have employed. 64 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: Chris it's good to talk to you, it always is. 65 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: Thank you. Chrispin Layson former Minister of Arts. Yeah, tomorrow, 66 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: big day because the old Maldi punishment debate is going 67 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: to be up and that we could just go through 68 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: the same old thing we're going to go through last time, 69 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: which is the filibustering. So we're all tuning in for it, 70 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: aren't we. For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen 71 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 72 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.