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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin to find the real story. Or

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Speaker 1: it's Ryan Bridge on hither Duper c Ellen Drive with

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Speaker 1: one New Zealand let's get connected and news talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be good afternoon, everybody at a seven a half

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Speaker 2: for four. Great to have your company. Mark Mitchell on

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Speaker 2: the show on the new crime stats today, how would

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Speaker 2: a special economic zone work for Marsden Point, We'll ask

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Speaker 2: Shane Jones. We'll look at the fast track for primary teachers.

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Speaker 2: Plus this big rugby battle brewing off the field sky

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Speaker 2: versus de zone for the rugby rights, we'll look at

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Speaker 2: that too. And if you've ever lent a family member

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Speaker 2: We've got a new finance app that might help.

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Speaker 3: You, Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: So it looks like on paper, at least this is

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Speaker 2: a big win for the government's crackdown on crime. Violent

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Speaker 2: crime is down for the first time in five years.

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Speaker 2: Sure it's only two percent, but at least it's not

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Speaker 2: those five years of increase, violence went up fifty one percent.

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Speaker 2: You basically just had to walk down the street and

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Speaker 2: very happy, and you can see why. Serious assaults have

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Speaker 2: But there's always a butt with stats. Retail theft up

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Speaker 2: So this survey that they're using on and relying on

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Speaker 2: a crystal clear picture that we're getting. Plus the violence

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Speaker 2: police data via Twitter, of all places. This is the

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Speaker 2: minutes after four. Now, the government's looking at scrapping the

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Speaker 2: three month rule for repeat prescriptions. The idea is you

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Speaker 2: The change would allow patients requiring certain medications to wait

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Speaker 2: twelve months before needing approval. Again from a health professional,

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Speaker 2: Zties with me Hi Brian, Well, hi Ryan here, good

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Speaker 2: If this was to proceed, okay, sounds like something we

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Speaker 2: should do tomorrow then Brian Betty, thanks very much, for

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Speaker 2: General Practice, New Zealand Times twelve minutes after four. It

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Speaker 2: does annoy me when you have to go back and

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Speaker 2: thing to do. Nine two nine two is the number

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Speaker 2: to text twelve minutes after four. Coming up next, Darcy's here.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about this potential bid from Dzone.

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Speaker 2: Dumbest name I think I've ever read, because it's spelt

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Speaker 2: News Talk ZB just gone quarter past four. Lots of

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Speaker 2: text coming in on the script, Ryan, I've had a

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Speaker 2: Hey Darcy, and good day to you Ryan. Great story

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Speaker 2: today about well, lots to chat about with the Zone

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Speaker 5: Well at the moment, I'd say rumor, but apparently they

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Speaker 5: and when you look at the situation, would they be

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Speaker 2: Well, they might do both, because how are they going

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Speaker 2: Isn't it. So the thing is it is their bread

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Speaker 2: Who is the zone? They're backed by Saudi's.

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Speaker 5: I actually don't know a histhority where they come from.

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Speaker 2: Pockets because they're taking foxteling them in Australia and they've made.

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Speaker 5: No money yet, but they're investing a lot of money

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Speaker 2: And well I guess that the question is what is

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Speaker 5: What if they want to be the home of sport globally,

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Speaker 5: they're going to buy as much as they can. So

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Speaker 5: various contracts that they've got. Now Sky Sport have just

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Speaker 2: Here in New Zealand. Saudias, I've just been told the

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Speaker 2: Saudias on ten percent of this thing ten percent. Okay,

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Speaker 5: The production team in there, thank you very much.

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Speaker 6: So that's great news.

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Speaker 5: For them, really really please brigant and Tonight on the program,

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Speaker 2: Good board to at Darcy Darcy Water Grave here with

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Speaker 2: Lots to discuss. Next, I'll tell you about We'll just

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Speaker 2: run you through the numbers from Mercury. If you're a

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Speaker 1: Informed inside into today's issues. It's Ryan Bridge on Hither

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Speaker 1: duper Cy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand let's get

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Speaker 2: Be twenty three minutes after four. Great to have your company, boyo.

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Speaker 2: Do people have some stories? Isn't it funny how the

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Speaker 2: Rachel Hi. Ryan. It is a dumb historical rule. This

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Speaker 2: I don't think you'll find anyone who's going to vote

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Speaker 3: After four Friday and Bridge Rich.

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Speaker 2: Interesting timeline come out of Australia about these And I

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is unbelievable. Ten am, air Traffic Control

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Speaker 2: Just after ten am, finally someone calls the Defense Force.

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Speaker 2: But if it's you know, if it's your Chinese boat

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Speaker 2: just radioing to your Emirates pilot, that's quite a different story,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. Twenty seven minutes after four, you're on news talks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be. We'll get the latest out of Australia after

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Speaker 2: the news. So do my friendson, my hell.

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Speaker 3: Molly on the iHeart app.

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Speaker 1: And in your car on your drive home, it's Ryan

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Speaker 1: Bridge on hither dupers Allen Drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 1: let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 7: He'd be, good, afternoon, it is twenty five minutes away

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Speaker 7: for five, you're on news talks.

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Speaker 2: Sa'd be it's great to have your company. This afternoon,

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Speaker 2: lots of texts coming in. I'm gonna feel sorry for

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Speaker 2: our pensioners when they put the prices up for your electricity.

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Speaker 2: Meridian is doing just that, up ten percent from April.

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Speaker 2: They've warned you today. This is from Andrew. He says

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Speaker 2: that'll be an increase of nineteen dollars twenty a month

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Speaker 2: for me. I got an email from them this morning.

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Speaker 2: Another here says Ryan, that's ninety cents to a dollar

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Speaker 2: fifty for US. Eighteen dollars a month increase. Not great

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news talks, they'd be drive.

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Speaker 2: So the French president Emmanuel Mahon has visited the White House.

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Speaker 2: He's chatting Ukraine with Trump. They had nice talk, but

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Speaker 8: Europe is loaning the money to Ukraine. They get their

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Speaker 9: In fact, to be frank, we beat we beat sixty

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Speaker 2: The pel money to be clear, real money. He said.

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Speaker 2: Things are getting personal In the build up to the

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Speaker 2: Aussie election, the Labour parties come out they are attacking Dutton,

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Speaker 2: saying he's guilty of some dodgy share trading. Back during

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Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, the day before this massive bailout,

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Speaker 2: Finally, this afternoon, the man behind the disastrous Fire Festival,

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Speaker 2: McFarland is his name. He says. The Fire Festival too,

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Speaker 11: What makes fire so cool is that we are selling

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Speaker 3: Artists, but you do have them booked.

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Speaker 11: I'm not in charge of booking.

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Speaker 3: The dun Will these be a list names that are involved?

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Speaker 2: I really hope. So didn't he go to jail? He

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Speaker 2: didn't go to jail anyway, he must be out of jail.

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Speaker 2: And if you want a ticket, well you just have

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Speaker 2: Something's a bit famous and it's on Instagram, so they

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Speaker 1: Twenty three International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace

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Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: I want to get to the bottom of what's going

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Speaker 2: on over in Australia with this sheer scand or Murray

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Speaker 2: olds as our Australia correspondent. Hey Murray, afternoon, Ryan, So

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Speaker 2: what's what is going on?

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Speaker 12: Did he?

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Speaker 2: Is he guilty of what they say he's guilty of?

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Speaker 13: This is just a phony war. We haven't even had

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Speaker 13: the electorate's already drowning in all the cash both sides

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Speaker 13: this week. Anyway, today that was Murray what he's one

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Speaker 13: The government is looking to hurt Peter Dutton. Dutton is

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Speaker 13: The fact is he's rolling in cash and so's his wife.

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Speaker 13: After about forty eight hours. Honestly, because both sides are

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Speaker 2: Ten has been ordered to pay Lisa Wilkinson's court cost.

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Speaker 2: This is from the Lherman saga. What exactly are they

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Speaker 13: of the ministers there, Linda Reynolds. Now, his criminal trial

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Speaker 13: ended with no findings against him after DURA misconduct, and

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Speaker 13: the Director of Public Prosecution said We're not going to

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Speaker 13: put the Britney Higgins through another trial. So he then

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Speaker 13: went the defamation route and he lost. He lost the

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Speaker 13: defamation case last year that now was subject to an appeal,

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Speaker 13: Wilkinson and Ten of course defended themselves. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 13: Wilkinson decides that, oh, no, no, no, I don't want those,

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Speaker 13: you know, the lawyers that Channel ten's got. I want

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Speaker 13: my own lawyers. And now the court's ruled that her

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Speaker 13: own legal team has to be funded in very very

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Speaker 13: large part by Channel ten.

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Speaker 14: Why.

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Speaker 13: I'm not sure it was her decision to go with

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Speaker 13: her own legal team, but the court has ruled that

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Speaker 13: that's fair enough and it must be up to tend

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Speaker 13: to actually over a million dollars for her legal costs.

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Speaker 13: I'm not sure how that works, but some little lawyer.

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Speaker 2: No, sounds like you need to be though that for

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Speaker 2: that manner. Murray, thank you for that. Murray holds our

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Speaker 2: Australia correspondent with US eighteen minutes away from five Ryan.

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Speaker 2: So the insed they've released their monthly sorry quarterly predictions.

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Speaker 2: This is for March twenty five GDP growth this year.

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Speaker 2: They're expecting one and a half percent for US. Interesting

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Speaker 2: that they talk about construction and they say that construction

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Speaker 2: will not grow in the same way that the rest

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Speaker 2: of the economy will grow. It won't recover when population

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Speaker 2: growth or as population growth recovers, it'll be a slower

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Speaker 2: track for our construction industry, which is not good news

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Speaker 2: for them. Obviously. They point out obvious things like geb

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Speaker 2: politics and trade tensions, et cetera, that are wearing on

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Speaker 2: people's minds, and the ocr well they've picked. Guess what

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Speaker 2: track they've picked, Exactly the same one that Adrian Will

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Speaker 2: picked the other day twenty five and April twenty five

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Speaker 2: bases points in May twenty five and the second half

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Speaker 2: of the year, and we should be at three by Christmas,

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Speaker 2: Home and host seventeen away from five. Barry Soaper is

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Speaker 2: here next with the latest from the White House.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centrics, credit, check your customers and get payments,

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Speaker 1: certainty Barry.

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Speaker 2: Soaper, senior political correspondent and potential Republican in the Today Barry,

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon. Right now, we'll explain that in a second. First,

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Speaker 2: what's happening in the White House.

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Speaker 15: Well, you know it.

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Speaker 6: Was interesting, wasn't it, Because the French President Emmanuel mcrome

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Speaker 6: goes to see Donald Trump, and not surprisingly, the talk

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Speaker 6: centered on the Ukrainian War. Trump did voice as open

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Speaker 6: as though, I've got to say to a European peacekeeping

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Speaker 6: force in the Ukraine and New Zealand has said that

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Speaker 6: it may contribute to that. He'll learn more about that

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Speaker 6: later in the week when Kirstarma, the British Prime Minister, visits,

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Speaker 6: and he said Trump told Macrome that Putin has quite

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Speaker 6: in favor of the idea as well. Pain falls, I

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Speaker 6: mean honestly, but it was in the White House that

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Speaker 6: the French President mccron touched Trump on the arm unheard of,

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Speaker 6: to correct them over who has spent what on the

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Speaker 6: Ukrainian War. Here's how unfolded.

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Speaker 9: I support the idea to have Ukraine first being compensated

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Speaker 9: because they are the one to have lose a lot

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Speaker 9: of the fellow citizen and being destroyed by this. That

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Speaker 9: the second, all of those who paid for could be compensated,

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Speaker 9: but not by Ukraine, by Russia because they wasn't one

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Speaker 9: to aggress.

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Speaker 8: Again, you understand, just say you understand. Europe is loaning

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Speaker 8: the money to Ukraine. They get their money back now.

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Speaker 9: In fact, to be frank, we paid. We paid sixty

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Speaker 9: percent of the totally faults and it was who I

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Speaker 9: like the US loans guarantee grants and we provided real money.

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Speaker 9: To be clear, if at the end of the day,

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Speaker 9: the negotiation we will have with Russia. They're ready to

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Speaker 9: give to give it to us. Super it will be

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Speaker 9: loan at the end of the day, and Russia will

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Speaker 9: have paid for that.

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Speaker 3: If you believe that, it's okay with me.

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Speaker 8: But they get their moneback and we don't, and now

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Speaker 8: we do.

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Speaker 12: It's an unbelievable legend.

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Speaker 6: Meeting with Trump, absolutely incredible. But it was later in

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Speaker 6: the press conference it would seem that Trump was totally

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Speaker 6: oblivious to being corrected by Macron over who paid for

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Speaker 6: the war.

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Speaker 16: That's a very interesting and horrible situation, and that could

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Speaker 16: evolve into a Third World War. We're not going to

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Speaker 16: let that happen. Should have never started, but it did,

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Speaker 16: and what a mess, What a horrible, bloody mess. The

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Speaker 16: United States has put up far more aid for Ukraine

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Speaker 16: than any other nation, hundreds of billions of dollars. We've

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Speaker 16: spent more than three hundred billion and Europe has spent

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Speaker 16: about one hundred one hundred billion. That's a big difference,

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Speaker 16: and at some point we should equalize.

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Speaker 6: Unbelievable. So it's water of a duck's back with Trump.

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Speaker 6: But you'll be pleased to hear. And here it comes

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Speaker 6: the Republican speaking. I'm on their internet, the listing smiling list. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and it's that told me this morning. It was don't

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Speaker 6: let your invitation to Marra Lago expire. It said, that

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Speaker 6: told me what I should wear as a VIP to

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Speaker 6: Mary Lago. He said, don't worry about the flight, it's

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Speaker 6: on me. Don't worry about your hotel, it's on me.

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Speaker 6: All you need to do is contribute whatever you can

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Speaker 6: to ensure your spot at the White House. And then

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Speaker 6: this afternoon, having got over that shock of going to

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Speaker 6: Marry Lago, I got this this afternoon. Berrier made a

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Speaker 6: big decision at Marra Lago last weekend, and consultation with

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Speaker 6: my trusted advisors like the Great Elon Musk, I made

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Speaker 6: the call to open up a few more highly selective

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Speaker 6: spots for cabinet level advisors. And the first one is going.

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Speaker 2: To be you, how much do you have a job?

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Speaker 2: How much are you paying them to get emails like

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Speaker 2: this that I want to know? Do know why they bother? Actually,

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Speaker 2: Connor sent them quite a funny message. He says, it

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Speaker 2: looks to me like President maham be made to resign

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Speaker 2: if he's grabbing Trump's harm es exactly the way of

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Speaker 2: Andrew Bealley is a capital offense. Now Luckx's off to

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Speaker 2: Vietnam talking about defense spending, does that include the plane?

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Speaker 6: Well, good point, because he is going on the defense

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Speaker 6: force seven five seven.

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Speaker 2: It was before he left.

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Speaker 6: On the plane from Panua Pai this morning that he

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Speaker 6: was on z B with the HOSK and talked about

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Speaker 6: defense spending and how it'll be a target in the

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Speaker 6: May budget.

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Speaker 17: There'll be a very significant uplift and defense spending over

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Speaker 17: a period of time. I mean historically our defense and

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Speaker 17: just set has gone off and bought bits of ships

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Speaker 17: and boats and planes and stuff.

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Speaker 2: What I've asked forth new leadership is a.

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Speaker 17: Proper strategy for the next fifteen years of where do

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Speaker 17: we want to build capability in the defense forces and

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Speaker 17: therefore make sure that as we tip money into it,

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Speaker 17: that is actually good money going into a good strategy.

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Speaker 3: A lot of what we've got to do.

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Speaker 17: Is make things much more interoperable with Australia, as you've

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Speaker 17: seen even over the course of this week.

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Speaker 6: Well that's right with the Chinese warships. But when you

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Speaker 6: listen to what Luckson's saying, increasing spending to two two

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Speaker 6: percent of GDP. That would virtually double where we are

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Speaker 6: at the moment to ten billion a year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, right.

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Speaker 6: If you look at Australia for example, they spend two

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Speaker 6: point three percent of GDP fifty six billion on defense.

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Speaker 6: Go to the US three point four percent. They spend

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Speaker 6: Old Donald eight hundred and fifty billion bucks on defense.

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Speaker 2: So it's an interesting one. We had Nicola Willison last night.

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Speaker 2: She said that they will stagger it. She said, same thing,

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Speaker 2: massive interest, Well, stagger it over fifteen years exactly. It'd

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Speaker 2: be over fifteen years at least because it's a huge

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Speaker 2: chunk of money and their operating a lance is what

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Speaker 2: two point three billion, So to add add another five

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Speaker 2: just to defense. Yeah, no way, Barry, thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you as always.

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Speaker 6: Nice to see you too.

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Speaker 2: Barry Soaper, senior political correspondent, off to Marra Lago. By

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Speaker 2: the sounds of it, nine minutes away from five yond

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Speaker 2: news talk, sa'd be when we come back. I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you a little bit more about Trump at the White

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Speaker 2: House as well, and Starmer heading over there. He's sort

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Speaker 2: of starting the brown nose campaign. Also a little bit

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Speaker 2: to cover on in video. The will biggest stock results

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. The mic asking.

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Speaker 18: Breakfast Disprime Mister Crystal LX Andrew Bailey, would you have

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Speaker 18: sacked him if he hadn't offered to resign?

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Speaker 17: Well, hypothetical, he did resign.

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Speaker 3: No, I know that, but just answer the question.

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Speaker 18: Was it a sackable offense?

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Speaker 19: Well?

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Speaker 17: I thank even how clear we've been on the first incidence.

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Speaker 18: I just answer the question. Well, so this is why

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Speaker 18: you get yourself reputationally in so much trouble.

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Speaker 2: Would you have sacked him? Yes or not?

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Speaker 17: I can say, yeah, he didn't meet the expectators I

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Speaker 17: have ministers, So you would have sacked him, But I

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Speaker 17: didn't need to because he resisted.

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Speaker 18: This is why you're in trouble in the polls. People

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Speaker 18: want something decisive. Look, if you wouldn't have sacked him,

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Speaker 18: say so either way, I don't care, but people want

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Speaker 18: from you, the prime minister, to go. This is my expectation.

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Speaker 18: I'm glad he resigned, because if he didn't, I would

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Speaker 18: have sacked him.

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Speaker 17: Well, that's exactly what has happened here.

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Speaker 18: Back tomorrow at six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 18: the Rain drove of the laugh.

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Speaker 20: News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: Something to keep your eye on this week at five

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Speaker 2: minutes away from five on News Talk Z'B and video.

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Speaker 2: This is the biggest stock in the world. It can

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Speaker 2: move entire markets. It's results. We have that story out

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. Remember about Deep Seek, that

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Speaker 2: was the Chinese potential competitive that seems to have died

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Speaker 2: away a little bit. It's an AI chip maker and

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Speaker 2: it's got its results Thursday. The estimates for sales for

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. Guess what they are, thirty eight billion

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Speaker 2: dollars they're expecting in revenue. Incredible numbers. A eighty five

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Speaker 2: cents to share for earnings, So that would mean about

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Speaker 2: a seventy two percent increase in sales and a sixty

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Speaker 2: four percent increase in earnings over that period, which is

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Speaker 2: an incredible thing. These are estimates, by the way. The

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Speaker 2: big thing that the markets are worried about and looking

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Speaker 2: for this week is the supply. Unsurprisingly, the supply of chips,

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Speaker 2: which could be an issue for their sales. That's coming

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Speaker 2: up Thursday this week, just gone four away from five now. Interestingly,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump over in America. The reason that they're so

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Speaker 2: upset and they've gone to the United Nations Security Council

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Speaker 2: to try and get a resolution pass, which has passed

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Speaker 2: now on the war in Ukraine. They have excluded the

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Speaker 2: words Russian aggressor or Russian aggression. And you might have

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Speaker 2: heard in Barries we had buried Soper on just a

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Speaker 2: few moments ago and his segment the thing that really

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Speaker 2: set Trump off during that meeting with Markoon was the

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Speaker 2: word Russian aggression. So obviously, I mean, this is me

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Speaker 2: reading between the lines, but obviously the talks that have

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Speaker 2: happened between the United States and Russia. Russia clearly doesn't

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Speaker 2: like being called an aggressor and America is clearly cowtowing

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Speaker 2: to that. Why else would you exclude it on the

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Speaker 2: three year anniversary of the war in Ukraine? Why else

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Speaker 2: would you exclude the words Russian aggressor when it was

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Speaker 2: them that crossed the border because you wanted to a

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Speaker 2: deal with them, because you're looking at normalizing relations with

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Speaker 2: President putin nine twers numbered text coming up after the

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Speaker 2: break your powervill what Shane Jones is going to do

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Speaker 2: about it? And we'll also look at the stats from crime.

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Speaker 2: Apparently throwing people in pres since action quite good for crime.

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Speaker 2: It's all a hit Newstalks HB.

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Speaker 21: Tea, don't breckon, love me to Ma, love this pisted

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Speaker 21: you are there.

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Speaker 22: Are alone, questions, answers, facts, analysis, The drive show you

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Speaker 22: trust for the full picture.

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Speaker 3: Brian Bridge on hither duplicy.

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Speaker 1: Allan drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected.

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Speaker 3: News talks EB.

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Speaker 2: Good evening at A seven after five Newstalks, ZIBB Shane

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Speaker 2: Jones standing by on your power bills in just a

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Speaker 2: second right now, though, the government crowing about its tough

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Speaker 2: on crime approach, reporting a two percent drop in violent

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Speaker 2: crime for the first time since twenty eight This new

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Speaker 2: police data shows ram raids down fifty eight percent, one

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Speaker 2: percent drop in serious assaults, total victimizations the are down

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Speaker 2: two percent. Retail crime though, that is the fly in

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Speaker 2: the ointment that is up twelve percent. Mark Mitchell is

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Speaker 2: that's theft in retail environments. Mark Mitchell's the police minister.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Kday, Ryan, how are you good? Thank you?

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Speaker 10: So?

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Speaker 2: Is this conclusive? Can we really say violent crime is

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Speaker 2: coming down?

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Speaker 23: Well, definitely, violent crime is going down. It's the first

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Speaker 23: time that that's happened since twenty eighteen. We've seen a

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Speaker 23: massive increase in violent crime over the last or the

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Speaker 23: previous six years. But we're definitely not crying about it yet.

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Speaker 2: It's early days.

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Speaker 23: We know that we've still got an enormous amount of

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Speaker 23: work to do, but it's certainly early signs of really

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Speaker 23: promising that we're head in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Oh, your press really certainly sounds very croy. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you've read it. I don't know if you've

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Speaker 2: read it.

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Speaker 19: Well.

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Speaker 23: I think the police, without a doubt, deserves some real recognition.

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Speaker 23: They had the gang legislation that they had to roll out.

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Speaker 23: They've done an outstanding job of that. I'm extremely proud

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Speaker 23: of the work that they're doing. And I want to

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Speaker 23: give a shout out to our correction stuff as well.

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Speaker 23: We've had a big increase of people coming into the

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Speaker 23: correction system. Although they're largely invisible to the public and

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Speaker 23: work behind the wire, their job is no less important

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Speaker 23: in terms of public safety, and they do an outstanding job.

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Speaker 2: Is this confirmation that the tough on crime thing actually works?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's pretty basic. You've got foot patrols from

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Speaker 2: police up forty percent, you've got the highest prison population

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Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen, and you've got violent crime coming down.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean we've just focused on public safety and

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Speaker 23: there's some people that can't be out in the community.

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Speaker 23: They need to be in prisoned because they hurt people.

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Speaker 23: And the previous government let way too many people out.

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Speaker 23: They transferred the risk back into the community. Of course,

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Speaker 23: what do we deal with arise and violent crime and

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Speaker 23: more victims And we're not going to accept that. We

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Speaker 23: should ryn we should be the safest country in the world.

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Speaker 23: We've got a lot of work to do, but we're

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Speaker 23: ending in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: The retail stuff then up twelve percent. Are you're going

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Speaker 2: to give Sonny Kaschell what he wants? I mean he

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Speaker 2: wants if you cannot make a citizen's arrest, detain someone,

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Speaker 2: he says in New Zealand unless the item is worth

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Speaker 2: more than a thousand dollars and it happens between six

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Speaker 2: am and nine pm. Are you changing that well?

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Speaker 23: Sonny has been a very strong voice for retailers. He

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Speaker 23: understands clearly what the challenges are there. He's been working

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Speaker 23: very hard with his group and the Justice Minister, Paul

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Speaker 23: Goldsmith will be out tomorrow making some more announcements around that.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to look at that.

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Speaker 23: Well, if it's not to borrow at some time this week.

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Speaker 2: Is that one of the things you're looking at, that's

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Speaker 2: those citizens arrest rules.

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Speaker 23: Well, I'm not going to prehip that. Get Paul on

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Speaker 23: Ryan when he makes the announcement. I don't want to

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Speaker 23: prehipt what they're announcing. They've been working on it pretty

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Speaker 23: hard and it's their announcement.

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Speaker 2: All right, Minister, thanks so much for your time. That

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Speaker 2: is Mark Mitchell, he's the police Minister. It's just gone

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Speaker 2: ten after five. Bridge Marsden Point could become New Zealand's

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Speaker 2: first Special Economic Zone in a bid to boost fuel

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Speaker 2: and energy security for Kiwi's resources. Minister Shane Jones says

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Speaker 2: turning it into an energy precinct could protect against supply

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Speaker 2: chain disruptions that could support the economy. Shane Jones is

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Speaker 2: with me now, High Minister.

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Speaker 14: Hi, greetings folks.

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Speaker 2: What is a special economic What does that mean to

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Speaker 2: your special economic zone? Does that mean tax breaks for

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Speaker 2: this area? Does that mean faster regulation?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 24: I mean the idea flows from the fact that this

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Speaker 24: is a site of great strategic importance. Seven to sixteen

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Speaker 24: billion dollars to rebuild the refinery. According to the analyst,

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Speaker 24: So that's certainly beyond the spending capacity that I have

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Speaker 24: any influence over. One of the ideas that has come

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Speaker 24: forward is that if Marsden Point is really of significance

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Speaker 24: to energy transition, energy innovation, let's have a bespoke precinct

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Speaker 24: with distinctive planning walls and identify with my colleagues Niicola

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Speaker 24: Willis and the Minister of Revenue what additional what additional

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Speaker 24: incentives and be built into such.

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Speaker 2: A zone like tax breaks you're looking at that I campaigned.

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Speaker 14: I campaigned on that. Sadly we've got six and a

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Speaker 14: half percent of the vote, so that didn't get very far.

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Speaker 14: But there's given.

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Speaker 24: If indeed you do think that climate change is this

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Speaker 24: all enveloping existential issue, then what are we actually going

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Speaker 24: to do in New Zealand other than trying tax cows?

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Speaker 24: What are we actually going to do to enable industry,

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Speaker 24: to enable investors to accelerate the accelerate the pace of change.

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Speaker 2: So are you talking about are you talking about and

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Speaker 2: you know, biofuels only here at Marsden pointery? Are you

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Speaker 2: actually talking about oil?

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Speaker 14: Of course I'm talking about gas and oil.

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Speaker 24: I'm not part of this naive club who believes that

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Speaker 24: the internal combustion engine is going to go anytime soon.

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Speaker 14: No, but we're talking about all fuel.

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Speaker 2: But the oil refinery is obviously been shuttered, right, so

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Speaker 2: are you're talking about bringing the oil refinery back? As

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Speaker 2: part of this is that the goal no.

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Speaker 24: The zone hopefully will encourage investors who are looking at fuel,

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Speaker 24: not only innovation but diversifying our fuel types. Obviously in

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Speaker 24: New Zealand's very keen to see if it can get

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Speaker 24: a blended fuel so it can play the game when

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Speaker 24: it goes and lands in other countries that have onerous

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Speaker 24: climate obligations.

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Speaker 2: So biofuels, you're talking about biofuels, you're not talking about oil.

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Speaker 24: Well, it currently is a sight of importation of oil

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Speaker 24: and that's not going to change anytime soon. But having

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Speaker 24: said that, you're not going to In fact, there's biofuels,

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Speaker 24: there's hydrogen, there's a variety of other things and it's

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Speaker 24: up to the market to establish how such products can

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Speaker 24: be delivered in New Zealand and let's try and find

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Speaker 24: a spot where people are incentivized to deliver them rather

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Speaker 24: than suffering the depredations of Nimbi's.

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Speaker 2: Minister Is this idea actually going to happen or is

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Speaker 2: this just another kind of headline grabber from you.

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Speaker 24: I'm disappointed you've characterized them to it in such a

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Speaker 24: rhetorical way.

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Speaker 2: All right, No, no answer to the question either. What

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Speaker 2: about Mercury putting up their prices ten percent? They say

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Speaker 2: it's transmission cost lines costs have gone up, but also

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Speaker 2: the dry winter.

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Speaker 24: The electricity system not unlike the Shakespearean phrase, is something.

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Speaker 14: Rotten at the core of the electricity sector?

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Speaker 10: You know that.

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Speaker 24: I know that they are that powerful, and they have

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Speaker 24: been that impervious to change that until such time there's

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Speaker 24: significant recalibration of the electricity settings. I don't imagine that

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Speaker 24: much of anything is going to change. I'm confident that

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Speaker 24: the reviews will give some decent options for the government

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Speaker 24: to look at. But the bottom line is we will

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Speaker 24: not have manufacturing, we will not have industrial competitiveness in

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Speaker 24: New Zealand if we do not tame the profit excesses

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Speaker 24: of the electricity sector.

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Speaker 2: They didn't make a profit.

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Speaker 3: I beg your pardon.

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Speaker 2: They didn't make a profit.

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Speaker 14: Well, Genesis made a huge profit.

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Speaker 2: But I've asked about Mercaurary they haven't. That's all, I'm

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Speaker 2: saying no.

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Speaker 24: But if you look at the period of time the

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Speaker 24: mercury has been around and the inverse relationship to.

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Speaker 13: How far how quickly their value.

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Speaker 24: Has grown and the pitiful amount of money that that

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Speaker 24: sector is actually put into boosting supply, you'll find that

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Speaker 24: I'm right and you're wrong.

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Speaker 2: Minister, Thanks so much for your time. Shane Jones, the

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Speaker 2: Minister for Resources and Regional Development, with us from the

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Speaker 2: Solomon Islands. Of all places today quarter past five News

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Speaker 2: Talks that be Life can be pretty complicated, especially if

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Speaker 2: you're a small business with one thousand and one decisions

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Speaker 2: to make. So let's keep things simple, shall we. When

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Speaker 2: it comes to your broadband plan, who needs to sort

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Speaker 2: through ten different options? Aren't really that different at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day. One New Zealand has made life

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Speaker 2: easier by creating two brilliantly simple broadband plans to take

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Speaker 2: go with fiber, or if it's available at your addressed

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Speaker 2: you can go with wireless. It's that simple. Both plans

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Speaker 2: mean fast, reliable connectivity that's essential for anyone in business,

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Speaker 2: and better security to help keep your business safe. Best

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Speaker 2: of all, and I think this will be music to

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Speaker 2: everyone's ears. It's simple to set up and manage from

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Speaker 2: get connected today.

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Speaker 3: Bryan bre just got.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen after five. You're on News Talks b primary school teachers.

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Speaker 2: They're about to get the red carpet rolled out and

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Speaker 2: get the same streamlined pathway to residency that's on offer

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Speaker 2: for their secondary school counterparts. Carl Bruton as an Auckland

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Speaker 2: he's the Primary Principals Association president. He's with me Hi

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Speaker 2: Kyle afternoon. Ryan, Good to have you on. Is this

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Speaker 2: going to help at least?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah.

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Speaker 25: We've already seen with the secondary approach that brought somewhere

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Speaker 25: around that four hundred and fifty mark into the country

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Speaker 25: since it was introduced.

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Speaker 2: Is this what's your school situation like at the moment.

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Speaker 25: We're out looking for someone at the moment to start

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Speaker 25: in the new term, and based on the applicants.

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Speaker 14: It's still pretty dire out there.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 25: The good thing about this is you've sort of got

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Speaker 25: three layers, right. You've got this which is your immediate solution.

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Speaker 25: So how do we get people fast traped because we

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Speaker 25: can't just magic up teachers, So this sort of deals

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Speaker 25: with that immediate issue. Then we've got some medium term

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Speaker 25: things happening around that sort of career change, the one

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Speaker 25: year programs where you can have a bit of a

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Speaker 25: lifestyle change come into teaching, which is a great job.

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Speaker 25: And then that third piece of long term is how

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Speaker 25: do we get our young people excited about getting them

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Speaker 25: into classrooms again and inspiring that next generation.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty disappointing for the Minister to have been given

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00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: a set of numbers from the Ministry of Education, you know,

872
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: projecting that they would have a surplus of teachers, and

873
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: then they turn around and say, actually, no, it's going

874
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: to be a shortage of teachers. It must be pretty

875
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: frustrating for her. Do you think she's handling this portfolio? Well,

876
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Speaker 2: how do you rate her?

877
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Speaker 14: Yeah?

878
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: No, I give her credit.

879
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 25: We as an association have been screaming from the rooftops

880
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 25: for a good number of years about this shortage, and

881
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 25: the Ministry have continued to tell us no.

882
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Speaker 2: No, we've got the surplus.

883
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 25: And it took the current minister to actually lean on

884
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Speaker 25: the ministry and say, well, hey on, this doesn't make

885
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Speaker 25: sense because I'm hearing this and you're telling me this.

886
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 25: So what's really going on? And now we have the

887
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 25: full answer. So to that end, I think she's done

888
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 25: a fantastic job and getting the ministry stood up.

889
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: Interesting. It's a little sad when you know, you think

890
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: about the fact that kids can't read, write and smell

891
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: these days, and then actually it turns out the ministry

892
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: can't do it either. Thank you very much to that. Yeah, Kyle,

893
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: good to have you on car Burrita and see what

894
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: can Primary Principals Association president just gone twenty after five

895
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: News Talk said b coming up next, Well, there's much

896
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: to discuss. I'll tell you a little bit more about

897
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 2: the deal between Ukraine and the United States for the minerals,

898
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: which we've been following. Also after five point thirty, this

899
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 2: story could potentially hurt Sky quite badly. This is Dezone,

900
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: the company, the British outfit that apparently is going to

901
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: look to get the rugby rights from n z R.

902
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: Sky wants them Sky needs them badly, so another potential

903
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 2: bit of entering the entering the ring not great for Sky.

904
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that after five point.

905
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: Thirty getting the facts, discarding the fluff. It's Ryan Bridge

906
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: on Hither Dupless Allen drive with one New Zealand let's

907
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: get connected news talks.

908
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: That'd be It's five twenty five. COVID is a grubby

909
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 2: word and no one likes to use it anymore. In fact,

910
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,959
Speaker 2: if you insert the word COVID into a conversation, you'll

911
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: normally be met with a grimace or people will just

912
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: move away from you quickly because they don't like to

913
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Speaker 2: talk about it. Unfortunately, we need to talk about it.

914
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: This afternoon, the Royal Commission of Commission of Inquiry into

915
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: COVID and the it's response to COVID is suffering a

916
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: couple of setbacks. The Stuff is reporting this afternoon that

917
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 2: the executive director and two legal counsels at the Royal Sorry,

918
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: the COVID Royal Commission of Inquiry, have resigned. They have quit.

919
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: They haven't said why they've quit, but they've all quit

920
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: around the same time. And now serious questions over the

921
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: status of the inquiry and the way it has been

922
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Speaker 2: run are entering the media the headlines. Brook van Walden

923
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 2: is the Minister in charge of the Department of Internal

924
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: Affairs that is in charge of this inquiry, and I

925
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: think it is absolutely crucial that they get this right

926
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 2: because the only reason we don't like hearing the word

927
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: COVID and thinking about that period of time is because

928
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: it was so goddamn awful and the government I think

929
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: went too far in a lot of places it shouldn't have.

930
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: If they don't get this inquiry right, if it is

931
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: seen to have been quick on process or short on

932
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: detail or run over rough shod by politicians, it will

933
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: undermine everything it's set out to achieve. It is an

934
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: expensive exercise. They must get the COVID Royal Commission of

935
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: Inquiry right.

936
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Speaker 3: Cry and Bridge twenty.

937
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: Six after five news talks. They'd be sorry for using

938
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 2: the sea words so many times now.

939
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 26: I think the only time a lot of us are

940
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 26: comfortable using that word now, Ryan is if we don't

941
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Speaker 26: have any symptoms, but we do have two lines and

942
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 26: we're calling our boss to explain we can't come into

943
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Speaker 26: work for a few days.

944
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: Do people still do that? Other than Tory Faro, who

945
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: was notorious for using the COVID thing. Do people still

946
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 2: say they've got COVID and not come to work, Well.

947
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 26: I mean you can still catch it to not get symptoms.

948
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 26: I mean that's the thing where you don't really want

949
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 26: the symptoms badly, right, But if you've got not many

950
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 26: symptoms but you can spread it, then it's kind of

951
00:47:59,000 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 26: you know, depending on what you do.

952
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Speaker 3: See.

953
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: The interesting thing is people who take the test. I

954
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: would I would just never. I don't have any tests

955
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: on me, but I would never think to take a

956
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: test these days.

957
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 26: Oh, you have a far a better work ethic than

958
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 26: I do.

959
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: Right, how many? Well, I mean in the time I've

960
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: been here, I must say it's you haven't had you know,

961
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 2: you've not been off for weeks or anything like that,

962
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: so you can't be there there twenty six minutes after

963
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: five year on News Talks, he'd be Dozone entering the

964
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: group chat on the rugby rights, the rugby rights auction,

965
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: what does it mean for Sky We're going to look

966
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: at that after the news at five thirty News Talks,

967
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: he'd be.

968
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: Putting the challenging questions to the people at the heart

969
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: of the story. It's Ryan Bridge on hither do for

970
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: cell and drive with one New Zealand.

971
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 3: Let's get connected news talks. They'd be.

972
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: Good evening. It is twenty five away from six year

973
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: old news talks. They'd be coming up. After sex. We're

974
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 2: gonna have a chat. Tourism holdings. Their results out today,

975
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: profits down thirty six percent, but apparently their New Zealand

976
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: arm is actually holding up all right. So we'll speak

977
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,959
Speaker 2: to the chief executive Grant Websters with us after sex

978
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 2: here on news.

979
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 3: Talk Brian Bridge.

980
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: Right, New Zealand's a new player, I should say, has

981
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 2: entered the market for the coveted rugby rights in New Zealand.

982
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 2: The Herald understands that ends that are currently in talks

983
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: with the Saudi backed streaming giants de Zone, after talks

984
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: broke down with Sky Television. The New Zealand Herald rugby

985
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: writer Gregor Paul broke this story and he's with us

986
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 2: this evening. Good evening, good evening. So is this when

987
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: we say talks broke down with Sky, what does that mean?

988
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 19: Well, I don't they've broken down. I think they've reached

989
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 19: a stalemate where they've gone round and round in circles

990
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 19: that you know, these two know each other's businesses. Intimately,

991
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 19: they've been partners for the better part of thirty years.

992
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 19: SKY had the first right to make an offer, which

993
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 19: it has done. It has tabled an offer, It has

994
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 19: given detail why it has made the offer that it

995
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 19: has New Zealand Rugby field. It does not reflect fair

996
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 19: value in relation to the content that it is offering

997
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 19: for the next period between twenty twenty six and twenty thirty,

998
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 19: so they haven't been able to agree a price. Sky

999
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 19: won't budge on that, so, as is New Zealand Rugby's right,

1000
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 19: it has gone to talk to any other potential bidders

1001
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 19: to see if they can put a better price on

1002
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Speaker 19: the table.

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Speaker 2: Is this posturing for mean z it are?

1004
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 19: I think Sky think it is. I don't know enough

1005
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 19: to know whether it's a bluff. I suspect it probably is,

1006
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 19: because I don't think that buying You know, the rugby

1007
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 19: rights to New Zealand sits with the strategic plan that

1008
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 19: dazone clearly has for itself. It would be difficult to

1009
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 19: see how it could make that work. And I think

1010
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 19: you'll be aware of many of your audience might be

1011
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 19: aware that dazone has been touted as a potential buyer

1012
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 19: of Sky itself. It recently bought Foxtail in Australia and

1013
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 19: that has led many to believe that look, Sky's undervalued

1014
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 19: at its current price. It's got a reasonably good business

1015
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 19: going here. Would it be something that Dozone might acquire,

1016
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 19: given that it's already bought Foxtelle, that's probably a better

1017
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 19: question or a more likely strategy for it to pursue

1018
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 19: than just buying rugby rights in New Zealand.

1019
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: If Sky were to lose the rights, that would be

1020
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: a pretty big glow for them, wouldn't I mean that's

1021
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: their bread and butter.

1022
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 19: I think it'd be catastrophic. And I mean we Sky

1023
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 19: don't break the business down to tell you you know,

1024
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 19: how many of their subscribers are primarily in there to

1025
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 19: get access to the rugby. But the market itself has

1026
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 19: a view that it's a considerable number, it's the majority.

1027
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 19: So perception is more dangerous than reality for Sky here

1028
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 19: because the markets priced that in. And if they have

1029
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 19: to turn around and say, look, we haven't been able

1030
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 19: to resecure the rights to the Old Blacks and to

1031
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 19: Super Rugby, I think they will have a monumental impact

1032
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 19: on its share price. And I think consumers and subscribers

1033
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 19: would leave it in their drills.

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Speaker 2: Gregor, thanks so much for that. Gregor Paul the New

1035
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: Zealand Herald Rugby writer who broke this story that we're

1036
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Speaker 2: all talking about this afternoon. And just some numbers for you.

1037
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 2: So the offer, according to the Herald's understanding, they offer

1038
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: for two ins that are from Sky was eighty five

1039
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: million dollars a year to renew the agreement. The current

1040
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 2: price one hundred and eleven million dollars a year. That's

1041
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 2: for the deal for the current period twenty twenty one

1042
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty five. So Sky, really would you call

1043
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: that low balling? Probably? Yeah, I think you would. Twenty

1044
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 2: two away from sexty.

1045
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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's international realty and global

1046
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: exposure like no other.

1047
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: Joining the huddle tonight, Clear Delort journalist is with us.

1048
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: High clear, great, great, Thank you and good to have

1049
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: you here in the studio with me. Nick Legget's here

1050
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: as well, Infrastructure and z E Chief Executive. Hey Nick, Hello,

1051
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: Hi Nick, Good to have you guys here. We'll start

1052
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: with this. Do you to either of you clear, do

1053
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 2: you have Sky? And if do you and do you

1054
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 2: have it for the rugby or do you know people

1055
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 2: who have it?

1056
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: Is it for sport?

1057
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 27: Well, we do have Sky and it is a bit

1058
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 27: of a joke in my sort of friendship group hashtag

1059
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 27: sport is my life.

1060
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 28: Not really, but support is the very important.

1061
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 27: Part of that package for at least one person in

1062
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Speaker 27: the household. Not and and I think if it wasn't

1063
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 27: part of it, no, there would not there would not

1064
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Speaker 27: be a need for it. So and I know some

1065
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 27: people who only have it for the sport, So yeah,

1066
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 27: I think what is Sky without rugby?

1067
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. The good thing about Sky, well apart from

1068
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: just recently where they've had some migration issues to a

1069
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 2: new satellite, but the thing nick about Sky is that

1070
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: it's not streaming, so it does you know, there are

1071
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: no glitches generally it's satellite and it's good quality when

1072
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 2: you're watching rugby or whatever.

1073
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 29: Yeah, I think that's right, and it's it's a way

1074
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 29: that people have come to expect that they can access

1075
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 29: their rugby and other sport. And I mean, I like,

1076
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 29: there is a Sky subscription in our house.

1077
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 14: It's actually my.

1078
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 29: Father in laws and rugby is a big is a

1079
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 29: big component of that. The other part, of course, is

1080
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 29: things like CNN and Fox, which are important part of

1081
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 29: the of the package. But look, I mean I think

1082
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 29: what people will be wanting to know here is that

1083
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 29: is our access to rugby preserved and is it going

1084
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 29: to be affordable? And that is what will be important

1085
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 29: to most New Zealanders. So I guess getting it sorted

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Speaker 29: out is going to be quite critical just to reassure people.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, and I think maybe in building that audience for

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00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 27: rugby is really important because there is competition nipping away.

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Speaker 28: I went to the Auckland FC match at the weekend.

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Speaker 27: The soccer I think, how was it called it rowdy?

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Speaker 27: It looks that, you know, it was fantastic. The atmosphere

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00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 27: was great, good started at five, out at seven, incredibly

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Speaker 27: well organized and I was very impressed. So you know,

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Speaker 27: if that takes off, they've got competition in our biggest city.

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00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: Well they do, and it had, I mean it has

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00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: taken off. They've sold out what every single game or

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Speaker 2: nearly every single game.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, I mean maintaining that is always going to be

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00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 27: a challenge because the initial enthusiasm is there. But you know,

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Speaker 27: you hope, for example, if this does own gets involved

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Speaker 27: that Tarlene Blavatnik is personally very invested in it because

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00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 27: he's worth about thirty two billion dollars. Wow, so you

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00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 27: want to hope he really likes Rugby personally, certainly do.

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Speaker 28: That makes a hell of a difference to whether they

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Speaker 28: stick around.

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Speaker 2: The Anios guy said he liked rugby and he was

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00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,959
Speaker 2: worth plenty of billions too. Where's he gone?

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00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 28: They're a bit flaky?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Let's move on. Talk about the violent crime stats.

1110
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: So the numbers down two percent, but the minister's sort

1111
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: of plucking numbers from we're in this press release. He's

1112
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: even taken some from Twitter. Nonetheless, there does seem to

1113
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: be a feeling amongst people that violent crime and the

1114
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: really really bad stuff it's not fixed, but it's coming

1115
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 2: down a little bit neck Is that fair?

1116
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 30: Well?

1117
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 29: I think it's a very good early indicator. I mean,

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Speaker 29: when you look at that within the context of pretty

1119
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 29: dire economic circumstances, for the country to think that actions

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Speaker 29: the government has taken on crime, that people are more

1121
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 29: stressed yet violent crime is reducing, it does lead you

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Speaker 29: to have some hope that we might be on a

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00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 29: trend and that intervention is actually been successful.

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Speaker 12: So I think that.

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Speaker 29: Look, I think we should be optimistic about this, but

1126
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 29: perhaps not quite confident at this point. But I can

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00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 29: tell you, Ryan, it's really nice to have some good news.

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00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. It did feel good

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00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: reading that story today.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

1131
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 27: And if people are feeling safer, they're going to want

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Speaker 27: to go out a bit more, for example, be on

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00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 27: the streets a little bit more, go down to their

1134
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 27: local cafe without worrying about, oh my god, it's getting dark.

1135
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 28: I'm gonna get bashed over the head. It doesn't mean

1136
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 28: you can be complacent.

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Speaker 27: But the other thing the government has to be just

1138
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 27: a little bit worry about is if these figures take

1139
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 27: a bit of a blip at some stage.

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Speaker 28: They've set themselves up for owning this.

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00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 27: Yeah, and they'll own any drop in good figures.

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Speaker 2: So you know, they did say, I did notice a

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Speaker 2: line at the very end of their two page press

1144
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: release thing. You know these numbers will fluctuate.

1145
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 28: Yes, always have your basis.

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Speaker 2: Just an outclause. We'll be back in just a moment.

1147
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 3: With the huddle, Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: It's fourteen minutes away from six and where with the huddle.

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00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: Tonight's clear the law journalists here and Nick Leggett Infrastructure

1150
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: as in chief executive. Welcome back guys, Nick, you're in Wellington.

1151
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: How is the news going down that Tory Farno was

1152
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: pulling out of her month? Was it monthly or fortnightly?

1153
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 2: I think it was only monthly appearance with Nick Mills

1154
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: from News to be a regular slot with him, and

1155
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: she said no, I'm going to diversify, you know, as

1156
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: they always do, diversify my media offering. How's it going

1157
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 2: down in Wellington?

1158
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 30: Well?

1159
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 29: I think it obviously comes on the back of a

1160
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 29: pole result which shows her personal rating I think minus

1161
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 29: forty two and that's I think the first time the

1162
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 29: poll has taken it was at plus four, so it's

1163
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 29: quite a drop and look, people have been surprised. Well

1164
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 29: Into Mornings with Nick Mills is a top rated show

1165
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 29: in Wellington. Nick has done a great job of building

1166
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 29: the audience over time and people do listen. The other

1167
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 29: point about Nick Mills is that he's not tough on

1168
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 29: the people he brings in. He can ask hard questions,

1169
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 29: but he's got a reputation I think is being very fair.

1170
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 29: So it is surprising and it does seem as though

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00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 29: in an election year it would be odd to want

1172
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 29: to really deny yourself an audience of several thousand people,

1173
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 29: of them warning and one that you'd be trying to

1174
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 29: win over to, you know, as you come down the

1175
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 29: election straight.

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00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: I did think it an odd mode. In fact, when

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00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: I first heard the news that this was happening, I said, oh, wow,

1178
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: she mustn't be running for marry again then. And I

1179
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: don't think we quite know yet whether she is or

1180
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: not clear, but it is an odd thing to do

1181
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: in an election.

1182
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 28: Yeah, I think she has committed to standing again.

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00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: Really.

1184
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 28: Yeah, because I checked.

1185
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: That out too, I wondered they'll be loving that.

1186
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 27: Yeah, And I guess, Look, it's up to each individual

1187
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 27: to decide how they best communicate. Maybe in her case,

1188
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 27: she's found the more she communicates through Nick Mills or whoever,

1189
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 27: the greater her disapproval ratings, which means really her life

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00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 27: in local body politics, which is pretty people oriented. You know,

1191
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 27: you've got to be able to reach out in the community,

1192
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 27: not just your base, and her base is the Green Party,

1193
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 27: and she's really sort of coming strongly back to the

1194
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 27: Green support that she has and says it's.

1195
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 28: A lonely job.

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00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 27: So she hangs out now with the Green Party caucus

1197
00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 27: at Parliament. You need to have a much wider of

1198
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 27: base than that. You don't need to have loads of

1199
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 27: friends within that base, but you need to be able

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01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 27: to talk across a whole range of people and reach

1201
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 27: out and get above some of that sort of party politically,

1202
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 27: you should really be above party politics. And unfortunately, if

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01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 27: you're going to I ammess yourself in one party more

1204
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 27: and more and isolate yourself more from listening to your electors,

1205
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 27: you're probably not going to end up being re elected.

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Speaker 16: No.

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01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think we can all safely say

1208
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: she won't be re elected. It'd be interesting to see

1209
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 2: who does put their hat in the ring and who wins.

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01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 29: Well, yeah, I mean people want certainty on that. They

1211
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 29: want certainty on to know who's running, and they want

1212
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 29: to be able to either get behind it and come

1213
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 29: or back a new candidate. And I think that it's

1214
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 29: a lot Well Inton is taking its time there. I

1215
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 29: mean this has been a council, not just in this term,

1216
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 29: but over I think several terms. It's been quite perceivedureus,

1217
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 29: quite toxic at times. Actually they have come together and

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01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 29: made decisions. But I do just to pick up what

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01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 29: Claire said, what I like about local government is that often,

1220
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 29: irrespective of your politics, you can work across the aisle.

1221
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 29: And I've been a mayor, obviously not of Wellington, but

1222
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 29: have put it he and I really like the fact

1223
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 29: that you can. I was able to work constructively and

1224
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 29: effectively with people to my left and people to my right.

1225
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 29: And party politics is the antithesis of that. It really

1226
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 29: blocks and it says there's only one type of person,

1227
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 29: and that's the person that shares my political colors. And

1228
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 29: I do think that limits the ability of local government

1229
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 29: to be effective because you do have to work with

1230
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 29: people that you might not agree with on everything. But

1231
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 29: actually communities expect that, and so it'll be interesting to

1232
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 29: see if voters this year reward or otherwise candidates that

1233
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 29: are really identified as being party political.

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01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: Just finally, we're talking as soon as we're talking politics

1235
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 2: and we're talking media, the way that the government is,

1236
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 2: the language that the government's using is starting to anoint. Well, no,

1237
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: it's not starting to. It's been annoying people for a

1238
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 2: very long time. And press Sex are guilty of this

1239
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: for time memoriam, but in describing Andrew Bailey's discussion as

1240
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 2: an animated discussion, you know, rather than I don't know,

1241
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 2: a fight or whatever it might be, and then touching

1242
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 2: the shoulder. And then you had the Prime Minister on

1243
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: the mic hossing breakfast this morning's It pains to avoid

1244
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 2: saying that he would have sacked the guy had he

1245
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: not resigned. Clear, do you think they need to change

1246
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 2: the way that they talk to us or do you

1247
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: think we should just accept that this is how they operate.

1248
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 27: Well in regard to that particular issue with Andrew Bailey,

1249
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 27: we haven't heard the other side and may never because

1250
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 27: the other party may not want to have their name

1251
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 27: sort of dragged into the public domain. So it's really

1252
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 27: quite hard to say. So it has to be, I

1253
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,439
Speaker 27: guess at the moment described in a very generic sort

1254
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 27: of way.

1255
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: True.

1256
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 27: But I listened, I went ick and listened to Mike

1257
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 27: Costkings interview with the Prime Minister, and I just cannot

1258
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 27: understand how somebody who has had media training cannot give

1259
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 27: a one word answer yes or I was very effective

1260
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 27: just as as an interviewer asking why and leaving a

1261
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 27: big silence, you know, I mean, it can take the

1262
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 27: interviewee by a surprise and they're left scrambling because they're

1263
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 27: waiting for a very verbose sort of a question. So

1264
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 27: I think that it doesn't serve christ pH Luxing very

1265
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 27: well to sort of be trying to pile all these

1266
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 27: kind of factoids.

1267
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 28: In all of the time.

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01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 27: He's quite close. I gather to John Key, who was

1269
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 27: actually a very good communicator. He knew what to deliver.

1270
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 27: Someone's got to say to him, you know, just answer

1271
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 27: the question in a very straightforward way. And of course

1272
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 27: if he had said yes, I would have sacked them.

1273
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 27: I don't think Andrew Bailey was going to come out

1274
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 27: and seek a fight over that.

1275
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 28: Say no, you wouldn't have so he didn't have anything

1276
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 28: to lose by looking.

1277
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 29: Very exactly, I wondered the same thing, why would it

1278
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 29: have to have said yes in that situation? And it

1279
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 29: does it just and it stops the Prime Minister's interview

1280
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 29: from being able to cover things that actually most of

1281
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 29: us are more interested in. Like I know the media

1282
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 29: wants to know all the ins and outs, but actually

1283
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 29: most people out in the public, we know that Andrew

1284
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 29: Bailey's gone, He's resigned. Okay, made you know, did something silly.

1285
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 29: Let's move on. But it sort of keeps it going

1286
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 29: and I do, like most of us do want to.

1287
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 29: Actually we're more interested in other things once the issue

1288
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 29: has been dealt with. But I do think that not

1289
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 29: answering a question directly gives it fuels the fire that

1290
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 29: probably the government don't want to. It's a fire I

1291
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 29: don't want fueled.

1292
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 27: Yeah, and it'd be very interesting to see how long

1293
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 27: this strakes out politically, because I heard a journalist positing today, well,

1294
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 27: we didn't have, technically speaking, a Minister of acc over

1295
01:04:59,160 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 27: the weekend.

1296
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 28: I heard that and I just thought that did us

1297
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 28: no harm.

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01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: No, the country has not crumbled.

1299
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 27: No, and the Prime Minister can always step in in

1300
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 27: the absence of a minister.

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01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 28: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally agree. Clear, Thank you very much for that. Nick.

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Speaker 2: You two clear the Lord journalist Nicklely get Infrastructures in

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Speaker 2: Chief Executive on the Huddle, it is seven away from six.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget we're talking tourism holdings boss after six their

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Speaker 2: profit down thirty six percent in the half year.

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Speaker 2: News TALKSB four minutes away from six, coming up after six.

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Speaker 2: We're obviously going to talk tourism holdings, but also to

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Speaker 2: Brad Olsen. He's coming on the show because this idea

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Speaker 2: of a special economic zone. Brad's point is a good one.

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Speaker 2: Why would you just carve out a little circle around

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Speaker 2: Marsden Point oil refinery and make that the special economic zone.

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Speaker 2: Why not draw a line around the whole country and say,

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Speaker 2: let's speed up regulation everywhere, let's lower taxes for multinationals everywhere.

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Speaker 2: If we think this is the answer to getting you know,

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Speaker 2: foreign investment into speeding up development, to getting the boat

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Speaker 2: going faster, why limit it to Marsden Point. It's all ahead.

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Speaker 20: News Talk said big, What's up? What's down?

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Speaker 1: Go on with the major calls and how will it

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Speaker 1: affect the economy? The big business questions on the Business

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Speaker 1: Hour with Ryan Bridge and Theirs. Insurance and investments, Grow

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Speaker 3: News Talks AB, Good.

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Speaker 2: Evening, Welcome to the Business Hour seven after six on NEWSTALKSB.

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Speaker 2: The Special Economic Zone for Marsden Point. We chat Brad Olson,

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Speaker 2: we chat to Brad Olsen, about that, why we are

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Speaker 2: at risk of losing a big chunk of our local

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Speaker 2: vegetable production. We'll ask Jamie McKay about that issue. Plus

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Speaker 2: the app that helps you lend money to your kids

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Speaker 2: and hopefully get it back as well. Plus Ndebrady is

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Speaker 2: in the UK right now. We're doing camp van sales

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Speaker 2: and rental company tourism holdings Why They have reported to sharp,

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Speaker 2: sharp decline in profits, describing it as the most difficult

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Speaker 2: period for the RV sales industry in decades. The firm

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Speaker 2: reported a net profit of twenty five point three million dollars. Now,

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Speaker 2: that's down thirty six percent on the period PRIVACS for

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Speaker 2: the six months to December. Grant Webster's the TIEV executive.

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Speaker 2: He's with me now, High Grant Giddy, Ryan, thanks for

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Speaker 2: being with me. So this has been a tough time.

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Speaker 31: Yeah, On the RV sales side, it certainly has, and

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Speaker 31: that's around the globe. It's a very common sort of

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Speaker 31: phenomenon that we've seen everywhere. But pleasingly the sort of

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Speaker 31: the tourism side, the rental side has actually been really positive,

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Speaker 31: going from strength to.

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Speaker 2: Strength, and especially in New Zealand right.

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Speaker 31: Yeah, New Zealand's been our standout performer and really big

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Speaker 31: increase twenty plus percent increase in revenue, and fleet's gone

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Speaker 31: up accordingly, and we've had a good summer.

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Speaker 2: Which doesn't make sense to me because you look at us,

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Speaker 2: we're one of the few countries still left without you

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Speaker 2: not back to one hundred percent pre COVID levels in

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Speaker 2: terms of our tourism numbers, and yet you guys are

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Speaker 2: doing well.

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Speaker 31: I look basically essentially in the countries that we operate,

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Speaker 31: no one's back to that level yet. And so you know,

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Speaker 31: we were one of the last reopening and that's had

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Speaker 31: this lag effect that we're still sort of seeing the

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Speaker 31: benefit from that. One of our core markets is Germany.

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Speaker 31: Germany has been one of the slowest to recover, so

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Speaker 31: we've still got that bounce still to come and we've

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Speaker 31: enough fitting from it now.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, do you know, do you guys forecast when we

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Speaker 2: might get back to that level? This is something that

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it's obviously a number you guys

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Speaker 2: are interested in.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 31: Look, I mean that's more of a personal opinion based

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Speaker 31: on the broader industry. I think it's sort of twenty

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Speaker 31: seven to twenty eight summer season is probably when it's

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Speaker 31: going to happen. It's it's not going to happen in

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Speaker 31: the next twelve eighty months.

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Speaker 2: Have you noticed a change in the types of tourists

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Speaker 2: that you're seeing in the New Zealand market?

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Speaker 31: You know what, it's actually quite quite boring that question

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Speaker 31: in away from the way that I answer it, because

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Speaker 31: trend is returning to trend. Everything's going back to how

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Speaker 31: it was pre COVID, the same types of customers from

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Speaker 31: the same markets, fortunately spending more and staying a little

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Speaker 31: bit longer.

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Speaker 2: That is not boring at all. That is exactly what

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Speaker 2: we want to hear. Thanks returning to normal and with

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Speaker 2: a bit more money to boot exactly exactly.

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Speaker 31: Yeah, No, Look tourism, Tourism I think is in a

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Speaker 31: good space. I mean, look at the announcements from the

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Speaker 31: government over the last few weeks. It's very very positive.

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Speaker 31: Been years since we've had that kind of positive commentary

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Speaker 31: from the government, so ye're really supportive of it. We're

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Speaker 31: in a good place.

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Speaker 2: Does that change the way that you go about your business?

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Speaker 2: Does that change the way you invest or where you invest?

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Speaker 2: When they talk like that.

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Speaker 3: This short answer is yes.

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Speaker 31: You know when you've got choices around the world, and

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Speaker 31: you've got a government that is talking about how they

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Speaker 31: drive growth and the incentives to drive growth. Then ye,

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Speaker 31: your capital expenditure moves accordingly and you get more confidence.

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Speaker 31: So absolutely, I think we are more bolish about New

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Speaker 31: Zealand tourism than than what we were four months ago.

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Speaker 2: Interesting stuff. Grant, thank you for that. Grant Webster, Tourism

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Speaker 2: Holding's chief executive. It's just gone ten minutes after six

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Speaker 2: you're on Newstalk zb Coming up next, Brad Olsen, we'll

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Speaker 2: take a look at these special economic signes, potentially one

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Speaker 2: for Marsden Point.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen minutes after six year on news Talks mb SO

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Speaker 2: filled twive with the labour MP has had a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch of rubbish dumped outside of his electric office in Tiata,

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Speaker 2: Tu and he says, well, he's sort of claiming this

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Speaker 2: is because I spoke out against Destiny Church. But is

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Speaker 2: it really related to that, or maybe it's just the

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Speaker 2: fact that Auckland councils changing their rubbish collections but dumping,

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Speaker 2: you know, taking rubbish to the tip is so expensive.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's just you know, somebody who's just getting rid

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Speaker 2: of some extra rubbish. I don't know. He says it's

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Speaker 2: about that. But b tw, he says, by the way,

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Speaker 2: it won't stop me doing my job. How surprising that

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Speaker 2: he is still there fourteen after six now, and the

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Speaker 2: government is considering a special economic zone from Marsden Point

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Speaker 2: that would reduce red tape to apparently help turn it

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Speaker 2: into an economic winner. Brad Olsen is the informetric, sprintable

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Speaker 2: Economist's back with us on this. Hi, Brad, good evening.

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Speaker 2: So these special economic zones. We've spoken to the minister,

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Speaker 2: that's Shane Jones earlier on the program about this, his

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Speaker 2: ideas for it. What do you reckon?

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Speaker 32: Oh, look, it's always encouraging to think about the economic

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Speaker 32: growth potential coming through and look I'm a Northlander so

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Speaker 32: definitely understand all of that. But I really would hope

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Speaker 32: that if we can figure out how to make some

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Speaker 32: of these different proposals work in a special economic zone,

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Speaker 32: surely we can make them work for like the entire country,

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Speaker 32: And it would be better probably to do that more

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Speaker 32: broadly than to do it sort of at a more

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Speaker 32: specific zone by zone function. I mean, the worry I

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Speaker 32: guess I have is that you start to create winners

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Speaker 32: and establish losers. If you have certain, you know, more

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Speaker 32: business friendly regulations or different regulations that you don't have

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Speaker 32: to do within a special economic zone, but you still

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Speaker 32: have to do in other parts of the country, it

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Speaker 32: sort of does make other parts of the country less competitive.

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Speaker 32: It would be better, I suggest to you know, try

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Speaker 32: and lift all boats or to eliminate all of those

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Speaker 32: regulations everywhere. If you can do it in one zone,

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Speaker 32: you probably should just do it everywhere overall.

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Speaker 2: Countries that do this tend to be massive. You know,

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Speaker 2: We're quite small, so it would seem odd to have,

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Speaker 2: you know, an arbitrary line between around a port basically

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Speaker 2: and Northland.

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Speaker 32: Yeah, exactly, and I think, you know, also for other

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Speaker 32: areas around the country where they might be going, well, geez,

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Speaker 32: you know I've got a port.

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Speaker 2: Can I have one of these as well?

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Speaker 32: And then okay, so you extend it out to all

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Speaker 32: the ports, and then the airports want them, then the

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Speaker 32: inland ports want one, and at that point, why don't

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Speaker 32: you just sort of do it wholesale?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think as well.

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Speaker 32: Part of this is, I think, is around the government

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Speaker 32: wanting to test out some of these options and hopefully

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Speaker 32: using it as a bit of an approving ground for

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Speaker 32: how they might be developed out further. And if that's

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Speaker 32: the case, I can buy that justification a lot more.

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Speaker 32: But I think also, you know, looking ahead, it would

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Speaker 32: be better if we can figure out a way to

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Speaker 32: make these sort of proposals work, then you do have

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Speaker 32: a much more expensive option the work the government's doing

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Speaker 32: though around Marsden Point or thinking about around the likes

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Speaker 32: of fuel security. I do think that it's important. I mean,

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Speaker 32: some of the analysis that the government's put out today

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Speaker 32: suggests that, you know, we can only cover about a

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Speaker 32: third of our usual amount of fuel use across the country.

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Speaker 32: If we, you know, had no fuel supply for ninety days,

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Speaker 32: that's two thirds of economic activity and transporting stuff around

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Speaker 32: that we wouldn't be able to do so. Aside from

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Speaker 32: the specially economic zones, which you hope can broaden out

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Speaker 32: some of this work on fuel security is going to

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Speaker 32: be important. It might be costly, but I think it's

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Speaker 32: worth the conversation.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that comes with it's not just better

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Speaker 2: regulational easier regulations and especially economic zones, is potentially tax

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Speaker 2: breaks as well. How do you reckon that it go down?

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Speaker 32: And I think that's where a lot of other businesses

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Speaker 32: will sort of start to probably rightfully complain and go, well,

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Speaker 32: how come we can't get that as well? You know,

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Speaker 32: we're good hard earning export businesses throughout the country and

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Speaker 32: trying to do different things. You know what, why do

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Speaker 32: we have to uproot ourselves from different areas. So again,

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Speaker 32: I can take the point that maybe it's a bit

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Speaker 32: more of that test case in the over time it

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Speaker 32: can sort of widen out. But I do think that there,

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Speaker 32: you know, could be some very valid complaints for people going, well, actually,

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Speaker 32: surely we should do this across it. If we can

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Speaker 32: make you know, some sort of tax breaks and similar

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Speaker 32: work for certain industries or certain parts of the country,

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Speaker 32: I sort of feel like you should do that broadly.

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Speaker 2: Put it this way, I don't think we've got.

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Speaker 32: The time or the effort here in New Zealand to

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Speaker 32: be able to sort of make these very minute decisions

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Speaker 32: over what pin on the map gets sort of you know,

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Speaker 32: certain economic advantages are not Surely we're small enough where

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Speaker 32: we should be able to do it wholesale across the country.

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Speaker 32: If it's good enough for one area, it's good enough

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Speaker 32: for the rest of us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good point, Brad, Thanks so much for that brand

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Speaker 2: of Olsen from Infometrics with us. He's the principal economist there.

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Speaker 2: Jamie McKay is here. Next, there's an industry body that's

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01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 2: come out. Leader has come out, put the head above

1515
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 2: the power pit and saying New Zealand is at risk

1516
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: of losing quite a big chunk of our locally grown

1517
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 2: veggie supply if we don't do something. And I'll tell

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01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 2: you what that is.

1519
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 3: Next, the rural reward on hither do for see Allan Drive.

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01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 2: Jamie McKay's a host of the Country. Good evening, Jamie, Jamie, you've.

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01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 30: Got you there, Yes, you've got that.

1522
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 2: You got me, I've got you there, loud and clear.

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01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 2: Good to have you on the show. And we've got

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01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 2: some good news tonight about strong wool and the prices

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01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 2: it's getting.

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01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 30: Well, everything's relative, of course, Ryan, but yeah, look we've

1527
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 30: crept up from the lower lights of all time in

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01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 30: real terms in COVID, when some farmers were only getting

1529
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 30: believed or not just over a dollar a kilogram for

1530
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 30: their strong cross bred fleece. Well, we're up to the

1531
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 30: four dollar mark.

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01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 24: Now.

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01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 30: That is a clean price. Obviously, Yeah, that's a clean price,

1534
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 30: which are quite surely, but less crazier. One get too

1535
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 30: complicated on that one, but I just thought i'd put

1536
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 30: it into some historic perspective. It's all very well you

1537
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 30: to have woo at four dollars. Personally myself, Ryan, I

1538
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 30: think it needs to be ten dollars or more for

1539
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 30: sheep farmers to make a buck out of it. And

1540
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 30: I'll just take you back in time to the Corean

1541
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,799
Speaker 30: War in the early fifties when wool was a pound

1542
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:13,440
Speaker 30: a pound and using I've heard various extrapolations and calculations

1543
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 30: on this one, but that might equate to something like

1544
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 30: fifty dollars per kilogram in today's money. So at four dollars,

1545
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 30: we're well off the pace. Even when I was a

1546
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 30: hard up young far for Ryan in the nineteen eighties,

1547
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 30: sharing all my own sheep, we used to get five

1548
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 30: or six dollars a kilogram for wool, and that would

1549
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 30: probably I don't hope. Fact they're out for something like

1550
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 30: maybe twenty dollars a kilo in today's money. So yep,

1551
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 30: the markets come off absolute lows, but it's still a

1552
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 30: long way to go. And one of the big things

1553
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 30: in sheep farming at the moment RYAN is people who

1554
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 30: are getting rid off sheep that grow wool. They're getting

1555
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 30: into self shedding sheep, sheep that shed their own wool,

1556
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 30: or even worse, ones that don't grow any wool to

1557
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 30: start with. So the wool industry is far from being

1558
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 30: out the wards. The good use for sheep farmers is Ryan.

1559
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 30: The lamb has really recovered this year. It's up about

1560
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 30: twenty five or thirty percent on where it was this

1561
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 30: time a year ago, and the farmers need it too.

1562
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 2: Interesting about the sheep that don't have any wall, because

1563
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 2: that you often hear farmers talk about. You know, it

1564
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 2: costs you more to share it off then you get

1565
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 2: paid for it, so you can understand I suppose why

1566
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 2: they do that now.

1567
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 30: A lot of sorry, a lot of animal health reasons

1568
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 30: for doing it as well. If they're not growing any water,

1569
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 30: you don't have to dip them. You don't have to dag,

1570
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 30: and you don't have to crutch them. You don't even

1571
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 30: have to dock them or tail them. So there's just

1572
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 30: they're just a lot easier animal to run and you're

1573
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 30: just running sheep purely for meat.

1574
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 2: Which and the meat is the thing that's paying, right,

1575
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 2: So there you go. Now, vegetables, you've got to have

1576
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 2: some vegies with your lamb. So there's a problem though

1577
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:57,959
Speaker 2: potentially without locally grown vegetable supply. According to an industry leader, Yeah.

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01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 30: John Murphy from Vegetables Museum said the current system was

1579
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 30: broken and local growers were being put out of business.

1580
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 30: And we all know the story about growing houses and

1581
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 30: places like Pucacoe instead of vegetables. Some of our best

1582
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 30: soils now have houses on them. And John Murphy's quite

1583
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 30: rightly saying growers are being strangled by regional decisions that

1584
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 30: take too long, make no sense, and ultimately drive them

1585
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 30: out of business. He said vegetable growing needed to become

1586
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 30: a permitted activity in the current round of resource management

1587
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 30: reforms and places like hotro Fenua there's a real threat

1588
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,799
Speaker 30: of growers being told they can no longer grow vets

1589
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 30: its madness. If you ask me, we should be growing

1590
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 30: more and more of them. But the cavalry is on

1591
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 30: the horizon. And the form of Associate Minister of Agriculture

1592
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 30: Nicola Grigg, she's the minister responsible for horticulture and she

1593
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 30: said she's relentlessly focused on supporting the sector's success. Griggs

1594
01:19:56,280 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 30: said this included considering policy amendments, includ proposals relating to freshwater,

1595
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 30: water storage and vegetable growing. And I say good luck

1596
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 30: to the vegetable growers, Ryan, because anyone who's grown a

1597
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 30: veggie garden at home knows how tough it is let

1598
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 30: alone on a commercial scale.

1599
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and timidoo, Jamie. The old Alliance Smithfield plant site

1600
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 2: is coming up for sale.

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01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 30: Yeah, and I don't know how well you know, Samarou, Ryan,

1602
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 30: but it's quite a nice site, actually thirty two hectares.

1603
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,520
Speaker 30: It's an industrial site at the moment, it's zoned industrial.

1604
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 30: It's the old Smithfield plant that had been there for

1605
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 30: one hundred and thirty nine years. The Alliance Group shut

1606
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 30: it down. The wist talk of it becoming a housing development,

1607
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 30: certainly in a good spot with good views. Interestingly, I

1608
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 30: found this was interesting The land also was home to

1609
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 30: the Smithfield Coastal Observation Bunker, which was built in nineteen

1610
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 30: forty two. I'm assumed that was to check it in

1611
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 30: case the Japanese were coming to get us. It's got

1612
01:20:55,680 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 30: a heritage to New Zealand category listening. The closure of

1613
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 30: Smithfield is estimated to have cost Timaru up to fifty

1614
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 30: million a year in wages alone in the local economy.

1615
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 30: And here's another interesting stat for Orion. To finish our

1616
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 30: chat tonight. The Timaru Council said in November that the

1617
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 30: closure of the meat works would cause a one point

1618
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 30: seven to six million dollar drop in water revenue, as

1619
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 30: the plant used about ten percent of Timaru's total water supply.

1620
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 2: Goodness me, Jamie, some great numbers in there. Thank you

1621
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 2: for that. Jamie McKay hosted the Country with Us just

1622
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 2: gone twenty six minutes after.

1623
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 3: Sex rym Bridge.

1624
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 2: The answer to the question, by the way, do I

1625
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 2: know much about timid Woo is I've been there once

1626
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 2: and it was for work, so I didn't even choose

1627
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 2: to go there. Not that there's anything wrong with Temodoov,

1628
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 2: of course, but the one thing I do remember I

1629
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 2: visited the high school were filming a TV show was

1630
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 2: the tree. The oak tree at the front of the

1631
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 2: local high school was donated well brought back from the

1632
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 2: Olympic Games during Nazi Germany day when Hitler hosted them,

1633
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 2: and it was called they said, look there's Hitler's it's

1634
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 2: a it's a Nazi oak out the front of the

1635
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 2: school because he'd given it to Jack Lovelock, who was

1636
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 2: from famously from Tiamdoo the Olympian and ran the fifteen

1637
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 2: hundred meters there Timdoo Boys High School. It was so

1638
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: there's an oak out there from Nazi Germany. Strange to

1639
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 2: think about that bit of history. Twenty seven after six.

1640
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you

1641
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 1: your business hour with Ryan Bridge and Mayor's Insurance and investments,

1642
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 1: grow your wealth, protect your future.

1643
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 3: News Talks dB.

1644
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 22: The becking a pieces of.

1645
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 2: Good evening. It is twenty five minutes away from seven.

1646
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:57,759
Speaker 2: You're on News Talks d B. This is the business.

1647
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 2: How great to have your company tonight. So the government

1648
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 2: here wants to get a deal done, a free trade

1649
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 2: deal done with India, right, and it's like line up,

1650
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 2: get in line, kid, Because there are a few people

1651
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 2: who are wanting to get in ahead of us. So

1652
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 2: the Brits have just restarted their negotiations. They've already had

1653
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 2: twelve rounds of negotiations since twenty twenty two for a

1654
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 2: free trade deal with India. Of course, it's the big

1655
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 2: prize India, isn't it, Because it's going to be the

1656
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 2: third largest economy in the world currently that is Germany,

1657
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 2: but it's going to be in the next few years.

1658
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 2: India massive, you know, growing middle class, more than a

1659
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 2: billion people. It's a big prize. But it's getting line

1660
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 2: time because you've got the Brits going in there. They

1661
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 2: are sending a trade delegation there as we speak. They're

1662
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 2: restarting their negotiations. They pause them for the elections on

1663
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 2: both countries and in Europe they are obviously wanting one

1664
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 2: of the Europeans are wanting their hands on one too.

1665
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 2: They did sign a one hundred billion dollar free trade

1666
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: deal the Indians with what they call the European Free

1667
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 2: Trade Association. And you wonder what is the European Free

1668
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 2: Trade Association. Well, it's four European countries that are not

1669
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: members of the EU. They have managed to get one

1670
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 2: across the line and one of the very few to

1671
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 2: do so, just gone twenty four minutes away from seven

1672
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge. If you've ever lent some money to a

1673
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,759
Speaker 2: friend or a family member and never seen your cash again,

1674
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 2: this next story might be of interest to you. Amiko

1675
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:29,879
Speaker 2: is a new app that will draw up a proper

1676
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: formal loan agreement that you can use whenever you leand

1677
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,759
Speaker 2: a small amount of money to anyone. That was created

1678
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 2: by former banker and Hawks Bay farmer Tom Aitken. He'sa

1679
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 2: me tonight, Hey Tom good a Ryn So who ripped

1680
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: you off?

1681
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 10: No one, no one, no the I got the idea

1682
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 10: when I was waking for a Big four at a

1683
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 10: university and just saw such a good idea and it

1684
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 10: took me a few years to get there and draw

1685
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 10: it out and bring it to life.

1686
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 2: So how does it actually work? If I, you know,

1687
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 2: my brother wants to borrow money for example, or something

1688
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 2: like that, how do we do it?

1689
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 10: Yeah? Great question. So you can download it on the

1690
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 10: Apple App Store or the Google Play Store. Download it

1691
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 10: from there. You just create an account and then you

1692
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 10: go in. Now, whether or not you're the lender or

1693
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 10: the borrower, either one of you can actually set up

1694
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 10: the loan terms, and so that kind of punches in

1695
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 10: the likes of an interest rate, whether it be zerubcent

1696
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 10: interest rate, weekly repayments, fortnightly, monthly, even near the repayments.

1697
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 10: And then you can send it to your so your

1698
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 10: brother in this case, or your peer or family member,

1699
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 10: they can have a look at it and accept the terms, negotiate.

1700
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 10: If they're happy with it, they can sign on the app,

1701
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 10: and then it gives you, guys a loan documentation which

1702
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 10: formalizes everything. You know, it kind of turns those I

1703
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 10: guess good intentions into good agreements.

1704
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 2: And does this legally enforceable?

1705
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 10: Yes? It is, yep, And so I think nine to

1706
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 10: nine percent of people are good beggars, but you know,

1707
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 10: some things, some things just go wrong. Believes this way here,

1708
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 10: everything's kind of documented as black and white, so there's

1709
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 10: nothing left to argue about.

1710
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 2: Really, is there an amount? Would you say, use this

1711
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 2: app if you're lending fifty dollars or if you're leanning

1712
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 2: five hundred thousand? I mean, is it legally enforceable? So

1713
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 2: presumably it doesn't matter how much you're lending, correct, But

1714
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 2: we have we have.

1715
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 10: Kept it at a million dollars and we're just thinking

1716
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 10: anything more than that, you should be getting a lawyer

1717
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 10: a lawyer involved there. But you know this is designed for,

1718
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 10: you know, to help a mate out start a business,

1719
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 10: for example, whether it not be five grand, help out

1720
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 10: to the next payday, or to even help your kids

1721
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 10: into their first home.

1722
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,560
Speaker 2: Is this going to start a whole lot of arguments

1723
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 2: like how am I going to look really stingy if

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to force someone to sign it, you know,

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Speaker 2: sign here on the dotted line before I'll give you

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Speaker 2: this twenty dollars.

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Speaker 10: I don't think you're I think you just can cross stingy.

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01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 10: I think the thing is a miko can kind of

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01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 10: take out any of the awkness of you know, figuring out, well,

1730
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 10: are you going to charge me interest or not on

1731
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 10: that money when you actually want to be paid back.

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Speaker 10: You know, everything's documented out and laid out, and it's

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Speaker 10: just I guess it just makes it easy for everyone,

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01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 10: you know, all of a sudden, everyone's on the same page,

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01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 10: and it's not so much about signing it as actually

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01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 10: just working out terms of best suit you as the

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Speaker 10: lender or the borrower.

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Speaker 2: What happens if you find yourself in the situation where

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Speaker 2: they don't pay you back. Do you take presumably you

1740
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 2: engage a lawyer at that point, do you how do

1741
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 2: you how do you resolve it?

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01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 10: So least you know there's so much undocumented peer to

1744
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 10: peer loans, at least by I guess using a miko,

1745
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 10: you do have I guess level grounds to take further

1746
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 10: legal action and go on to deck collection. But you

1747
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 10: are hoping, I mean it is your family and friend

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01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,520
Speaker 10: member that you are hoping that you will get repaid regardless.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, all things going well, what are you

1750
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 2: how are you pronouncing that? So it's a m I

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01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 2: c O? How are you pronouncing it a miko?

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Speaker 10: Amiko?

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Speaker 2: Where did that come from? And why didn't you just

1754
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: go with iou trademark?

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Speaker 10: Trademark is the issues there. But Amiko is actually Italian

1756
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 10: for friend I guess, which leans into what we're trying

1757
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 10: to achieve here. It is all about helping out your

1758
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 10: family and friends, whether it not be get ahead, make

1759
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 10: it the next payday, or buy their first house for

1760
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 10: eusting or car.

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Speaker 2: I can see a lot of parents liking this because

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01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 2: it really ties them down. How does what's the revenue

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01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 2: model here? How do you actually make money?

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Speaker 10: So right now, we don't take any any fees on

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01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,879
Speaker 10: interest rates or anything like that. That is solely between

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01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 10: the lender and borough. So well the banker, Mum and dad,

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01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 10: or two mates staying for business venture. We just charge

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01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 10: a fifteen dollar documentation fees and that's parish to do

1769
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 10: all the calculations for you as well as give you,

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01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 10: guys an illegally agreement legally buying agreement that clearly states

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01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 10: out your obligations as the lender and borrower.

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Speaker 2: So it's fifteen dollars for every no matter what the

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01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 2: amount is, it's fifteen dollars for anyone who wants to

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Speaker 2: give a crack.

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Speaker 10: Correct, And they're just trying to make legal a make

1776
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 10: it make it so so cheap that you know, whether

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01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 10: it's two grand long, you're not going to go to

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01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 10: a lawyer and they're going to charge you up a

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01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 10: few hundred dollars to write up an agreement that's kind

1780
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Speaker 10: of true Bible. So at least by using a miko

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01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 10: you can.

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Speaker 2: It also makes it also makes my twenty dollars loan

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Speaker 2: non viable.

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Speaker 10: That yes, correct, correct, but hey, look if you need

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01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 10: a twenty dollar loon, mate, just singing I'm sure I

1786
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 10: can spot you.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 2: I guess it depends on how well this goes for you. Tom, exactly,

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Speaker 2: very well, Yeah, good luck, Thanks Ron, appreciate Tom making

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Speaker 2: am COO founder. Time is eighteen minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 2: I do like the idea. I would never you should

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01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 2: just never lend your family money, period, should you? Because

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01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 2: it could get messy. I mean it's deffinitely if you've

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01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 2: got kids. I don't have children, so I don't. I

1795
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 2: don't know what that would feel like. But to have

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01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 2: a brother or sister and lend them five grand really,

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01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 2: I don't know that i'd trust them to give it back. Frankly,

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01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 2: how much of it? Can? Somebody text me, what is

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01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 2: the biggest sum of money you have lent to a

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Speaker 2: family member and what was it for? Nine two ninety

1801
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 2: two is the number to text your news Talks be.

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01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 2: We're heading to London next.

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Speaker 3: Approaching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge with the Business Hour and MAS Insurance

1805
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: and Investments, Grew your wealth, Protect your future.

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01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 3: News Talks be.

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Speaker 2: Quarter to seven on News Talks the b Now I'm

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01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 2: sounding stingy. We were just talking to the founder of

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01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 2: an app that looks to formalize an agreement between family

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01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 2: members who are lending money to each other. Ryan sister

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Speaker 2: has lent me two hundred thousand dollars over two years

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01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 2: six percent. Murray, you're lucky man. I'm assuming that's for

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Speaker 2: a business.

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Speaker 10: Hi.

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01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 2: I lent a friend ten thousand dollars for IVF, says Sue.

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01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 2: I'm now godmother to her wonderful son. Best money I

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01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 2: ever spent. Yes, those are quite nice stories, aren't they.

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01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 2: But if you want to get yourself the app and

1819
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 2: you want to formalize those agreements people in case things

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01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:09,560
Speaker 2: turn south, fourteen away from seven in the Brady is

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Speaker 2: a UK correspondent high Endo, Hey, Ryan, great to speak

1822
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 2: to you, Great to have you on. So Starmer is

1823
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 2: preparing to go to Washington, and I know that there

1824
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,600
Speaker 2: was a report out today saying the number ten and

1825
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 2: put a release out saying that Trump's language and the

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01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 2: actions has taken so far could lead to a better

1827
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 2: world with in terms of Ukraine. So they're sort of

1828
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 2: putting on the charm offensive ahead of his visit. By

1829
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 2: the sounds yeah big time.

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Speaker 12: But look, I think the domestic concern in the UK

1831
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 12: is what Trump said yesterday while he was with macronn

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Speaker 12: that he's going to go ahead with these tariffs. There

1833
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 12: will be a twenty percent flat tariff on all European goods. Now,

1834
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 12: the hope in the UK was that will hang on

1835
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 12: Britain's not in the European Union anymore, and maybe Britain

1836
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 12: will be given an exemption because of what the Brits

1837
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Speaker 12: see is the special relationships. Made it clear yesterday that

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Speaker 12: everyone will be paying a tariff of twenty percent. So

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01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 12: I think domestically Starmer and his advisors will be very

1840
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 12: concerned that if Trump goes ahead with that when they

1841
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 12: meet on Thursday. But look, ultimately Starmer's going there to

1842
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 12: make sure that Ukraine has a voice at the negotiation table.

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01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 12: We now learned that Zelenski is likely to go to

1844
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Speaker 12: America as early as next week, and Trump seems to

1845
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 12: think that a peace deal could be ironed out very

1846
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 12: very quickly.

1847
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 2: Indeed, yeah, well I saw that that men and mac

1848
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 2: from was signed within potentially within a couple of weeks,

1849
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 2: which would be good news for the region, no doubt. Now,

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01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 2: this labor politician has been jailed for punching a constituent.

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01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, so this happened towards the end of last year.

1852
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 12: It was a night out, the incident happened at two am.

1853
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 12: Clearly alcohol was involved. Mike Amesbury had a stunking victory

1854
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,759
Speaker 12: at the last election last July. Runcorn is his seat

1855
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 12: in the northwest of Englis and it was in the

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01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 12: town of Frodsham where he had a conversation with a

1857
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 12: constituent over roadworks in the area at two am and

1858
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 12: this got very heated and the end result was Mike

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01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 12: Amesbury was seen on CCTV throwing a punch and the

1860
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 12: constituent falling to the ground. So he's been convicted of assault.

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Speaker 12: He intends to appeal. He's got ten weeks jail and

1862
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 12: he went straight to prison. The judge basically denied any

1863
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 12: bail while he appeals. The likelihood is that he will appeal.

1864
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 12: But the big problem they have now is that ultimately,

1865
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,600
Speaker 12: if he serves his time in prison, there's likely to

1866
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 12: be a by election. And hovering in the background is

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01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,600
Speaker 12: the specter of the Reform Party, which do appear to

1868
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 12: be gaining a lot of strength in the polls. So

1869
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 12: let's see what happens. But I think Starmer has problems

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01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 12: everywhere at the moment everywhere he looks.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like it too now, Jim reck I we've

1872
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 2: spoken about the Manchester United financial situation. The book's in

1873
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:00,879
Speaker 2: very bad order indeed, and now there's a belt tightening

1874
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 2: going on there in there.

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Speaker 12: So two hundred more redundancies announced this week. In addition

1876
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 12: to the people who were going, the people who were

1877
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 12: staying will have their free lunches taken away at the

1878
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:15,440
Speaker 12: stadium and at the training ground. This has been diminishing

1879
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 12: month on month really since Ratcliffe took over, and he

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01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 12: wants to save somewhere in the region of two million

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01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 12: dollars a year. This is how much apparently the free

1882
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:27,799
Speaker 12: food for staff is costing. So all of the lunches

1883
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:31,640
Speaker 12: will be replaced with fruit and bread and soup and

1884
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 12: that will be it. So since he's taken over, it's

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01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 12: really interesting. I think all the locals that certainly the

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01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 12: United fans felt that, you know, a local boy coming in.

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01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:43,719
Speaker 12: He has so much money that Jim Ratcliffe would spend, spend, spend,

1888
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 12: and all they're seeing is cutbacks.

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Speaker 2: He still gets soup. I wouldn't be complaining too much.

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Speaker 2: And thanks so much, India, good to have you on

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01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 2: in the radio. UK correspondent just going to living away

1892
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 2: from seven Rial Bridge. Interesting story from One News. So

1893
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 2: MPI Ministry for Prime Industries apparently has stopped seconding staff.

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01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 2: So what happens in a minister's office is you'll get

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01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 2: the agencies or the departments which they control. They will

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01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 2: second staff in for a couple of months or sometimes

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01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 2: even a year or six months or whatever. Get them

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01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 2: into the minister's office, get them, mix some experience in

1899
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 2: that political environment and also expose the minister and his

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01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 2: staff to a more specialized knowledge of the area of work,

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01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,719
Speaker 2: whatever the expertise is. So the Ministry for Primary Industries

1902
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 2: has stopped seconding staff to Minister Mark Patterson's office. Who

1903
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 2: is he? He's New Zealand First, he's Minister for Rural

1904
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:42,520
Speaker 2: Communities Associate agg Minister. Now, apparently there's been a whistleblower

1905
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 2: come forward to One News saying there's concerns about the

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01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 2: treatment of MPI staff in the minister's office. Formal complaints

1907
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 2: have been made. More than one MPI staff member has left.

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01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 2: No MPI staff are currently working in the office now Patterson.

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01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 2: This is the crucial part. Patterson not directly involved in

1910
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 2: the incidents and the minister brought in ministerial Services once

1911
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 2: he was made aware of the complaints, So you've got

1912
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 2: to wonder what the hell's going on in Mark Patterson's office.

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Speaker 2: Nine away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Tuplicy Allan Drive full Show podcast on

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01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk ZEBB.

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Speaker 2: Seven away from seven on news Talk, saidb you're a

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01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 2: very charitable bunch texting me this evening because we've just

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01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 2: been talking earlier to the founder of an app that

1919
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 2: formalizes when you leand a friend, or you leand a

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01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 2: family member some money and then you want to get

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01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 2: it back and they don't want to pay it back,

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01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 2: you can have this app where you've got a formal

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01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 2: agreement that you've both signed up to that is legally

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01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 2: binding in a court of law. And you know, you

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01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:50,640
Speaker 2: could do five grand, you could do fifty grand. The

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01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 2: maximum is a million dollars. And I just made the

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01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 2: point that I would never lend mine brother money because well,

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01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 2: he's never asked be fair, so he obviously doesn't need any.

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Speaker 2: But you are very generous people, Ryan. I gave my

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Speaker 2: brother four thousand dollars ten years ago, still haven't seen

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Speaker 2: a cent of it. Hahaha. I also helped my parents

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Speaker 2: out with ten thousand dollars. No is that one hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars? Ryan, I met someone on a dating site.

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Speaker 2: After eighteen months, I lent them six grand never got

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Speaker 2: it back. I'm not surprised, frankly, and you shouldn't be

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01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 2: doing that. If you meet anyone on a dating site,

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Speaker 2: don't give them a cent. Ryan, one point eight million

1938
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:36,599
Speaker 2: dollars to a mate for a business, got back three

1939
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:41,879
Speaker 2: million two years later. Look at you just bragging Ryan,

1940
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety six four dollars ninety five for a

1941
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 2: KFC quarterback. Haven't seen it since. That's a good one, right.

1942
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:52,560
Speaker 2: It is coming up to seven o'clock here on Newstalks B.

1943
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:53,679
Speaker 2: What are we going out to tonight?

1944
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 26: And unfortunately it's a sad one today, Ryan. ROBERTA Flat

1945
01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:00,719
Speaker 26: the R and B singer, has died. She was eighty

1946
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 26: eight years old, and she died the morning of February

1947
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 26: twenty fourth, US time, So just overnight, peacefully surrounded by

1948
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 26: her family.

1949
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Speaker 31: ROBERTA.

1950
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Speaker 26: Flax probably most famous for this one are killing Me

1951
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 26: Softly with his song It's not actually her song. Laurie

1952
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 26: Leberman was the first person to release it, but Roberta

1953
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 26: with Laurie Lebman's version kind of didn't go anywhere. Roberta

1954
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 26: was the first person to cover it and it became

1955
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 26: a big hat and since then a lot more people

1956
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 26: have covered it since then, including probably the one You

1957
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 26: and Me are more familiar with the Fuji's Covenant as.

1958
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 2: Well, How I Knew It? Beautiful song. Thanks and thanks

1959
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 2: for all of your checks. I hope you get your

1960
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 2: money back. People Amon with this big.

1961
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Speaker 15: Sing in life with this with the sung love Come

1962
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 15: with the thinker singing my life with this book, gilling

1963
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 15: me Songbay with this song, You gilling me something with

1964
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 15: their song, then my life with this word killing.

1965
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 28: He was smalling to bad.

1966
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Speaker 15: Yay listen.

1967
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 2: Killing Me song with this song, killing s.

1968
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 15: With this song, telling go with his words, killing stung.

1969
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:20,759
Speaker 5: With this song.

1970
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Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to

1971
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1972
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