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Speaker 1: Now the All Blacks have made three changes to the

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Speaker 1: back line for Saturday's final home test of the year.

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Speaker 1: Body gets the nod at ten, so DMC is out.

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Speaker 1: TJ starts at half back in then Antoin Lennart Brown

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Speaker 1: will play at second five. Buck Shelford is a former

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Speaker 1: All Blacks captain, is with us now? Hey Buck?

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Speaker 2: Hi, how are you very well?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Do you reckon? Body's the right call here?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Well, we're going to I think they're trying to

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Speaker 2: mix it up and trying to get the combinations as

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Speaker 2: they want to see see something something different and maybe

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Speaker 2: in the attack side about things, Body might do a

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Speaker 2: bit different. But compared to them, Yeah, do.

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Speaker 1: You think that d mac has cooked his goose?

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Speaker 2: He's got another chance. I think he's a very good higher.

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Speaker 3: But you know, when you're playing, when you're playing at

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Speaker 3: that level, there at some times goes you're waiting because

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Speaker 3: you probably have more time at the lower level compared

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Speaker 3: to being you know, playing kas based rights, you don't

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Speaker 3: have as much time. And the thing is he has

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Speaker 3: time when he face of the chiefs and things like that,

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Speaker 3: and he's just going to get used to, you know,

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Speaker 3: reacting faster and I think he needs to stand up

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Speaker 3: a deeper all those sort of things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the TJ decision. Is this a sentimental

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Speaker 1: thing because this is his last game in Wellington?

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Speaker 2: Do you think? Well, it could be. And you know

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Speaker 2: the thing, as I thought, he played pretty well when

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Speaker 2: he come on last week. But you know, he's been

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Speaker 2: a good servant to the brand and I think that

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Speaker 2: he deserves it a start.

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Speaker 1: What about Mark Talah, what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Well, Mark's a different kettle of fish. We've got so

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Speaker 2: many good wings at the moment and possibly, you know,

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Speaker 2: they might be doing a little bit of rotation, just

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Speaker 2: trying different things out. Yeah, I'm not quite sure that,

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Speaker 2: but I haven't seen the whole team, but I was

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Speaker 2: standing that they need to actually win again for us,

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Speaker 2: you know, for the people of Yellow all Low. How

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Speaker 2: Like how they played last week the first forty minutes.

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Speaker 2: I want to see that for a whole game, you know.

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Speaker 1: I hear, Yeah, I think we all do. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for your time. I really appreciate it. Buck Shelford,

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Speaker 1: former All Blacks captain, Sorry about the quality of the

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Speaker 1: line there. It was obviously, but windy Weary was probably

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