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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic, asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real estate, your local experts across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news togs.

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Speaker 2: He had been in love today the Murray party fiasco.

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Speaker 2: Maybe good news in the grocery sector for you. Winston

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Speaker 2: Peter's on a blockade of foreign house ownership. New data

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Speaker 2: on how much we love bricks and Ladron, the old retail,

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Speaker 2: and how much more of it we actually need. Mark

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Speaker 2: and Jenny Politics Wnesday. Of course, Richard Arnold Steve Price

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Speaker 2: provide the offshore flair as well.

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Speaker 1: Asking the middle of the.

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Speaker 2: Week, already seven past six, Nicola Willis has found time

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Speaker 2: to remind us that after tomorrow she'll be returning to

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Speaker 2: her crusade against the supermarkets. The government not a fan

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Speaker 2: of the banks, all the supermarkets. Of course, they keep

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Speaker 2: saying they're going to do something about them, and by

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Speaker 2: doing that, we're going to get a better deal, whatever

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Speaker 2: that looks like. And in that is the trouble. Labor,

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Speaker 2: who were way worse at the economy than Willis, made

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Speaker 2: the mistake of having market studies that achieved nothing. I

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Speaker 2: mean they were supposed to achieve things. They just didn't petrol, supermarkets, telcos,

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Speaker 2: all the usual suspects, jib board or building products. That

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Speaker 2: was the exception. We now import lots of similar products

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Speaker 2: we couldn't before. Presumably the price in the market is

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Speaker 2: corrected itself. Adirn said we were being fleeced, remember that,

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Speaker 2: fleeced by the petrol stations. Are we unfleeced now? What's changed?

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Speaker 2: Tell me there's a price. For specific answers as to

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Speaker 2: how the petrol market is giving us this so called

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Speaker 2: better deal, Willissippe is to rely on the old more

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Speaker 2: competition is good for prices line, which of course broadly

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Speaker 2: is true. She cites Costco. Costco have butter at just

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Speaker 2: under ten dollars a pop. Apparently it's why people are

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Speaker 2: stockpiling the stuff. But there is a reason there isn't

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Speaker 2: a Costco in Wanganui or Timaru or well anywhere apart

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Speaker 2: from the one there actually is, and that's because we

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Speaker 2: have five million people and the costco model needs a

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Speaker 2: large gathering of shoppers. Same with the airlines. We'd love

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Speaker 2: Emirates and Qatar and Quantas as well as Singapore and

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Speaker 2: Air New Zealand to fly daily out of Hamilton. D

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Speaker 2: n Eden, but they can't Egging this on is a

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Speaker 2: chunk of the public who swear black and blue. This

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Speaker 2: is a scam, a con and outrage and we need

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Speaker 2: Sheriff Willis to save the day. Oh they've got examples.

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Speaker 2: You can buy tins of peas in Queensland for three

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Speaker 2: cents and I fill it in Lancashire for a pound twenty.

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Speaker 2: Here's where I'm at. If there's a scam to be

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Speaker 2: broken up, break it up. If there's a new option

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Speaker 2: to be opened, do it. But finance ministers need to

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Speaker 2: have credibility. Willis is under pressure on that tomorrow of course,

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Speaker 2: promising upheaval and new tomorrows on the broadest of economic

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Speaker 2: theory is the stuff of fly by nighters like a

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Speaker 2: Don Willis. I am hoping is better than that.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, at this time it was phone calls about Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Today it's sanctions on Israel as Britain turns up the heat.

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Speaker 3: There are open nine thousand trucks at the border.

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Speaker 1: Prime Minister.

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Speaker 3: Nat and Yahoo and this blockade now and lets you

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Speaker 3: page here.

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Speaker 2: They've called the tried talks off and the ambassadors in

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Speaker 2: Starma want's action.

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Speaker 3: I want to put on record today, but we're horrified

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Speaker 3: by the escalation from Israel. We repeat our demand for

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Speaker 3: a cease fire as the only way to free the hostages.

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Speaker 2: They have seen what this doctor is living.

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Speaker 4: A really large form has just gone off not far

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Speaker 4: to the east of us. Who knows how many casualties.

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Speaker 4: So I think we've got a lot of work heading

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Speaker 4: our way.

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Speaker 2: Meantime, Stateside Arak, he's in front of the Senate Appropriations

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Speaker 2: Committee defending the slashing of budgets.

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Speaker 5: Whether the sickest country in the world, teen billion dollars

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Speaker 5: or forty percent from the NIH budget slowed the development

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Speaker 2: Emperious and we are the sickest country in the world,

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Speaker 2: so that money has not been well. What's man who's

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Speaker 2: bast joining the growing list of people with questions around Biden,

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Speaker 2: his health and how much actual work he was doing.

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Speaker 6: The real question who ran the Europen okay, who ran

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Speaker 6: the auroopen Because the things that were signed were signed illegally.

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Speaker 7: In my opinion, I think we've just proved that.

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Speaker 6: But our countries respect to get all over the world.

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Speaker 2: We're respected in sport, namely women's basketball, we've got yet

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Speaker 2: more relegations of crowds and racial slurs, this time against

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Speaker 2: Angel Reefs. Biggest name of the game, Kaitlin Clark is

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Speaker 2: in her corner.

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Speaker 5: There's no place for that in our game. There's no

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Speaker 5: place for that in society. And you know, certainly we

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Speaker 5: want every person that comes into our arena, whether player, weather, fan,

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Speaker 5: to have a great experience, so well, you know, hopefully

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Speaker 5: the investigation, we'll leave that up to them to find

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Speaker 5: anything and take the proper action if so.

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Speaker 2: Finally, longest chess match in the world has officially ended.

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Speaker 2: April fourth, Grandmaster Magnus Carlson started an online match that

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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty three thousand people signed up for.

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Speaker 2: After making this made each move team world head up

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Speaker 2: moves and forty six days, and Carlson got the record

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Speaker 2: for playing against the most people at once thus the world.

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Speaker 2: In ninety China's Central Bank People's Bank of China, they've

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Speaker 2: gone the one year loan prime loan rate three percent

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Speaker 2: from three point one. They've cut in other words, they've

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Speaker 2: cut their five year as well, bit more stimulus coming

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Speaker 2: state back. Commercial lenders moved to cut their deposit rates

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Speaker 2: as well, so they're trying the best to fire the

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Speaker 2: place up. Meantime, they've moved in Australia. More details on

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Speaker 2: that in just a couple of moments. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yesterday phone calls Ukraine THO were relligially according to Trump,

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Speaker 2: going to start peace talks. I see no sign of it.

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Speaker 2: So nothing happening on Ukraine gas is a complete bust.

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Speaker 2: The world's turning against Netanyahu, and I know this morning

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Speaker 2: the supreme leader of Irun, this is Hamani. He expresses

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Speaker 2: doubt about these nuclear talks as well. They've made us

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Speaker 2: excessive and outrageous demands, so nothing's really going anywhere. Good

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Speaker 2: fifteen p. Six Devin Funds Management, Good morning, Good morning

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Speaker 2: to you, Michael. So Michelle came to the party, got

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Speaker 2: the cuts, and from what I'm reading, there's more where

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, so you know they're ready to act as needed.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, I thought it was really pregmatic in terms

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Speaker 8: they talked about them certainly over the globally environment, the

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Speaker 8: downgraded economic forecasts of lower projections for growth and exports,

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Speaker 8: point four to two point one percent. So yeah, Mishelle

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Speaker 8: Block's yeah, very impressive. She said it was a confident

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Speaker 8: might be where that next week. Obviously acknowledged real wages

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Speaker 8: have grown, but consumption hasn't, so she actually said things

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Speaker 8: I'm just wondering if they're considering a half percent. Their

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Speaker 8: consumer is a lot weaker, And then what's the RBNZ

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Speaker 2: So no pressure might interesting. Hong Kong eighteen percent on

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Speaker 2: the world's biggest IPO for the year. That's not a

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Speaker 8: But it was that that's not bad at all. So

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Speaker 8: capital markets are alive and well. So this our company

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Speaker 8: is a bit of a mouthful contemporary Amprex Technology k

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Speaker 8: ATL for short, So they listen, Hong Kong biggest IPO

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Speaker 8: this year global as you meant, and we have nearly

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Speaker 8: and Mercedes. So she has already listed on the Shenzi

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Speaker 8: They according the crossfire so to speak. The Pentagon's actually

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Speaker 2: But yeah, she has got a.

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Speaker 8: Way to a cracking start upsitt of over sixteen percent

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Speaker 8: on its first day. Investors overlooked the trade frictions and

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Speaker 8: look fair enough. It's got a great story. Sales fifty

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Speaker 8: In April, a congressional committee in the US said called

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Speaker 8: working on the listing because of the alleged military links.

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Speaker 8: Both American banks struck with the deal. They'll be happy

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Speaker 2: Okay, then we got Tower. I'm always you know, cars, Yes,

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Speaker 2: good for the business, but you know you know who

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right. So look at it was a strong

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Speaker 8: Their large events allowance for this year's fifty million, they've

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Speaker 8: for cyclontem so there's a bit of a buffer. The

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Speaker 8: air well they even know if our weather four year

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Speaker 8: that in the chairman sort of dwelled on this that

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Speaker 8: the profit would have been high. But there was six

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Speaker 8: so fifteen more claims. So he's calling on the government

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Speaker 8: perpetuating gravy train, and you know how private insurers should

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Speaker 8: i'd notice actually first ten policy oders didn't choose to

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Speaker 2: Mate, go well, catch up tomorrow. Appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: B tell you what bombshell yesterday in Australian politics. Can't

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Warehouse Mayhem Magas sales on now.

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Speaker 2: Highest grossing horror film in history. A sequel did well,

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Speaker 2: so what are they doing?

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Speaker 2: What do you do? You do a prequel, of course,

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Speaker 7: Never a bad idea to keep the people you love close.

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Speaker 2: Presumably it gets back to when penny Wise was born.

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Speaker 7: Boy.

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Speaker 2: Don't you love a pecuniary list? I've got this year's

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Speaker 2: parliamentary one. Ginny Anderson got nothing nothing, which is not

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Speaker 2: leader of the opposition for you, Chris Bishop, Chris loves

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Speaker 2: a gift. I'll work you through some of that later on.

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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister got some stuff, but then you would

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Speaker 2: some hot laps. That's the best gift of all. No

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Speaker 10: Does make you wonder how they voted it on verious

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Speaker 2: That's exactly my point, Blenn. This is why we have

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Speaker 2: how come someone you've never heard of got so much stuff?

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Speaker 2: More shortly twenty two to seven, Richard Arnold Trump was

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Speaker 2: a big, beautiful budget bill. So more on that shortly

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Speaker 2: back home, though very exciting you insight into our retail

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Speaker 11: Yeah, morning Mite.

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Speaker 2: It sounds bullish, is that fair?

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Speaker 10: Look, I mean the way that we've this research has

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Speaker 2: How solid are you on the population growth, because I'm

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Speaker 10: Yeah, look, there's always going to be those issues around forecast,

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Speaker 11: There's always a lot of people that want to live

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Speaker 10: So from that side of it, well, we take our

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Speaker 2: What is two hundred and fifty thousand square meters? I

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Speaker 2: Is that seven west Fields? Is it fourteen cost Cos

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Speaker 10: What is it?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 10: I guess you could look at the Westfield new Market

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Speaker 11: So you could look at that and say, well.

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Speaker 10: Look we need sort of three or four of those

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Speaker 2: I've argued long and hard for years that when everyone

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Speaker 2: What has anything happened? Or is it just you know

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Speaker 2: that bricks and mortar works for people, always has, always will.

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Speaker 10: Look, I think from what we sort of see, you know,

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Speaker 10: But from outside of it, New Zealanders they love that

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Speaker 11: So from that perspective, it's that install.

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Speaker 10: Retail experience that's really important. And when retailers are doing

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Speaker 2: Win good stuff. Chris appreciate the inside. Crystbble, who is

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Speaker 2: ninety minutes away from seven what's literally happening in America?

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Speaker 2: Because you've got the downgrade the other day, So they're

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Speaker 2: borrowing costs have gone up, so the more risk you are,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't do the numbers, as so many

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Speaker 2: And that's all on Trump, and it's all on the tariffs,

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Speaker 2: Talks a b you pull out from the UK this morning,

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Speaker 2: the other you gov. It seems to be cementing and

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Speaker 2: Dems and this is the news they've overtaken. So the

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Speaker 2: Libdems are our third on seventeen. Labour's stuck on twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Reform up again one point to twenty nine. Contersting Times

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Speaker 2: Ay six.

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Speaker 1: Forty five International Correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace

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Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Richardald S, Thanks very good morning to you, good money mane.

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Speaker 2: So the old trump'ster's on Capitol Hill budget time where

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Speaker 2: we're we at.

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Speaker 12: Yes, he's made the big push for this multi trillion

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Speaker 12: dollar budget efforty much stup to the capital today try

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Speaker 12: to cajole lawmakers to support what is seen as his

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Speaker 12: biggest legislative effort. Is is a budget planet would lock

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Speaker 12: into place tax cuts favoring mostly the wealthy, well also

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Speaker 12: adding one hundreds of millions in funds for military expansion

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Speaker 12: on border controls. This would add around three point three

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Speaker 12: trillion to the US budget deficit, which already is at

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Speaker 12: thirty six trillion US. The bill is being attacked within

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Speaker 12: Republican ranks from both sides. Some say it's definite spending

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Speaker 12: that they simply cannot sign on to. Others say it

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Speaker 12: is a move that would deny health insurance coverage to

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Speaker 12: an estimated seven point six million people. Trump spoke to

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Speaker 12: this close meeting of the party, lashing some of his

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Speaker 12: critics of grand standards and warnings the party quote don't

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Speaker 12: f with medicaid. Republican leaders say Trump was effective, and

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Speaker 12: Trump himself says the meeting was excellent. Love.

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Speaker 5: There was no shouting.

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Speaker 2: I think it was a meeting of love.

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Speaker 12: Yes, it was a love as Trump, which is not

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Speaker 12: what some others said as they left the meeting, but

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Speaker 12: Trump insists that at this session there was unbelievable unity.

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Speaker 7: I think we're going to get the everything we want,

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Speaker 7: and I think we're going to have a great Thingtory.

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Speaker 12: Not all Trump predictions come about, of course, like ending

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Speaker 12: the Rush Ukraine War within twenty four hours of his

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Speaker 12: re election and so on. The Republican House majority is

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Speaker 12: obviously fragile. They can't afford to lose more than three

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Speaker 12: votes in any of these things because of the slim

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Speaker 12: majority that they have. Lauren Davidson is one who says

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Speaker 12: he still is a no vote on this particular bill.

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Speaker 13: I couldn't look for this store right now.

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Speaker 7: I mean it grows Duff's spending right now.

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Speaker 12: Well, another Republican who is yet to be persuaded is

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Speaker 12: Jimmy Patrona's what I took.

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Speaker 11: That is, Hey, everybody figure it out. Everybody get in

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Speaker 11: that room and figure it out for the country and

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Speaker 11: for your district.

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Speaker 12: Well, the deficit hardliners might be the toughest to win

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Speaker 12: owner over with any of this, but they've caved before,

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Speaker 12: for instance, when Trump added seven point eight trillion into

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Speaker 12: the national debt during his first term. As for the moderates,

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Speaker 12: the political joke is if they ever showed a spine,

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Speaker 12: it would be the first. Democrats are saying that despite

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Speaker 12: the Trump assurances on Medicare, millions will actually lose coverage

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Speaker 12: under the current plan, which they describe as a nightmare

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Speaker 12: being forced through in the dead of night, with the

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Speaker 12: next committee votes set for late this night. All this

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Speaker 12: is only phase one, of course, of the budget battle.

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Speaker 12: It still has to work his way through the Senate

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Speaker 12: even if it gets the not in the House. So

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Speaker 12: Trump is pushing hard, but it's not a done deal

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Speaker 12: as yet. Meantime, there is this interesting exchange with Elon Musk,

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Speaker 12: who says he will spend less on political donations in futures.

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Speaker 14: Says Elon, in terms of political spending, I'm going to

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Speaker 14: do a lot less in the future.

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Speaker 1: And why is that.

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Speaker 11: I think I've done enough.

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Speaker 12: Laughter ron Q. So it says the richest man in

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Speaker 12: the world who has left Washington, d C. With his

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Speaker 12: reputation a bit indeed, and he's.

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Speaker 2: Pledged to stay with Tesla for five more years. I

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Speaker 2: note with interest. Now Aiden Alexander's parents have taught Yeah,

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Speaker 2: most will.

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Speaker 12: Have seen the images of this young this young boy,

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Speaker 12: even being freed by Hermas last week was Raeli American.

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Speaker 12: He was held for five hundred and eighty four days

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Speaker 12: as a hostage. The twenty one year old is said

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Speaker 12: to be pretty week still. He's just given the okay

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Speaker 12: to leave hospitals, and now his parents are speaking out

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Speaker 12: and sharing a little of what their young boy went through,

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Speaker 12: and they are voicing gratitude again to see whit Coffee

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Speaker 12: Trump envoy who negotiated their son's release. Others still are

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Speaker 12: being held by Hamas. There are fifty eight other hostages

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Speaker 12: yet to be accounted for, many of those believed to

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Speaker 12: have died. Eden's father eighty says, when he and his

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Speaker 12: wife were able to see their son after such a

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Speaker 12: lengthy ordeal.

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Speaker 15: It was out of body experience. I couldn't walk actually,

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Speaker 15: when we went to this tiny apartment than some army base.

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Speaker 1: I never been there.

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Speaker 16: I was walking like I felt like in a tunnel.

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Speaker 15: I couldn't remember anything until I saw this tiny room

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Speaker 15: and the Yalist aganem. It was unbelievable moments.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's some description, isn't It was taken on the

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Speaker 12: day of the mass massacre and went over the seventh

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Speaker 12: and twenty three. Of course, he had seen images of

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Speaker 12: his parents pleading for his life on televisions and says

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Speaker 12: they gave him hope. As for specifics of what he

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Speaker 12: went through, his parents say they're not pressing him for details.

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Speaker 12: They're waiting until he wants to speak about whatever. But

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Speaker 12: he did hear something of the conditions under which he

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Speaker 12: was held for those many, many months, especially at first,

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Speaker 12: it was.

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Speaker 11: The really rough.

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Speaker 15: He was moved a lot between sites, apartment's tent underground,

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Speaker 15: above ground, the alleys, slept on the street.

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Speaker 11: Just damn it.

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Speaker 12: It was the complete shell, including those long periods in

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Speaker 12: the tunnels where he never saw daylight for so many days.

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Speaker 12: Another free captive for Segai decl Schen, who was held

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Speaker 12: for four hundred and ninety eight days, has visited him

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Speaker 12: in the hospital, and what they all went through is

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Speaker 12: really unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: So you probably might appreciate it. Richard Donald, sit side

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Speaker 2: for you. Just Sysame Street has been said, by the way,

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Speaker 2: you'll be aware that Trump pulled funding for PBS and

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Speaker 2: Sysame Street was part of that. So Netflix gone and

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Speaker 2: picked it up. They've struck a deal, and it's a

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Speaker 2: good deal too, because they're going to make a new

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Speaker 2: season of Sesame Street. They're going to run ninety hours

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Speaker 2: of previous episodes, and they're also going to make it

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Speaker 2: available to PBS. So I guess that's win win Night

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Speaker 2: Away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement Communities News

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Speaker 1: Togsdad be if you.

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Speaker 2: Can be bother to have a look at the growing

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Speaker 2: commentary around the so called free plane from Qatar, it

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Speaker 2: is suggested it wasn't a gift or an offer at all.

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Speaker 2: Trump went to Boeing and said, how about it, where's

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Speaker 2: my plane? And they went, look's going to be years,

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Speaker 2: at which point he packed is sad and he said,

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Speaker 2: I want a new plane. So Boeing wanted off around

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Speaker 2: the world and looked at some of the customers who

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Speaker 2: may have a plane that they could sell or lease.

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Speaker 2: They went to the kataris the carriage. He said, we

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Speaker 2: can do a business, we can do a deal. So

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Speaker 2: the idea that it's a free gift and stuff is

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Speaker 2: not necessarily the case at all, but well worth following

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Speaker 2: because that's bubbling. Mike, nearly another billion dollars announced yesterday

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Speaker 2: on budget spending. Surely all of the spending is going

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Speaker 2: to be borrowed money. What's going on. They keep saying no.

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Speaker 2: Chris Bishop was a bit equivocal yesterday. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: whether he said yes or no or a bit of both.

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what. That's going to be the

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Speaker 2: thing to watch for yesterday. But you know, all the

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Speaker 2: head will be the usual headline. Twelve dollars for this

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Speaker 2: and eighteen million dollars for that. Have a look at

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Speaker 2: where it's coming from. That's your critical part, Mike. Could

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Speaker 2: you please ask the Prime Minister what's happening with the

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Speaker 2: Overseas Investment Office and potential changes. It's critical to our

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Speaker 2: country that we get this sorted to stimulate growth. Mark

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Speaker 2: I've already done it. They announced over the weekend a

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Speaker 2: couple of people are going to run the new Investment

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Speaker 2: Office New Zealand Inc. We're open for business. A couple

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Speaker 2: of people are going.

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Speaker 17: To run that.

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Speaker 2: They're setting it up as we speak. Wheels are turning

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Speaker 2: five away from seven, while.

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Speaker 1: The ins and the ouse. It's the fears with business

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Speaker 1: favor take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now, there is another one of my themes, this this

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Speaker 2: streaming world that we're in at the moment, and how

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Speaker 2: everyone's so damn confused. It's got to be eventually bad

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Speaker 2: for business. So the NFL National Football League American Football

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Speaker 2: they released their streaming schedule for twenty five twenty six.

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Speaker 2: So how many different subscription services do you need? So

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Speaker 2: if this year you want to watch all the games,

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Speaker 2: in other words, you're an NFL and you just want

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Speaker 2: to watch the NFL, you will need Amazon Prime, Netflix, Peacock,

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Speaker 2: YouTube TV, ESPN NFL plus NFL Sunday Ticket Paramount plus

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Speaker 2: Fox one streaming service. Roger Goodell, who's the commissioner, says

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Speaker 2: they could double the amount of overseas games they play

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Speaker 2: them in the near future because that offers unique broadcast

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Speaker 2: deals as well. So what's the cost of all of this?

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Speaker 2: USA Today came out with the cheapest. If you want

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Speaker 2: to bundle the packages up, ring around, make sure you're

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Speaker 2: streaming services all on the same page, and super dupa

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Speaker 2: dupa it's eleven hundred year Zealand dollars one one hundred

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Speaker 2: yew Zealand dollars simply to watch one sport for one season.

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Speaker 2: If you're paying for each service individually, you can blow

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Speaker 2: two thousand, five hundred and thirty three dollars for one sport.

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Speaker 2: For one season. Somewhere along the line, this is going

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Speaker 2: to implode on them, and not just the NFL, but

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Speaker 2: streaming in general. It is so convoluted, so complicated, that

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Speaker 2: people simply give up.

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Speaker 17: At least NFL is like a super long season.

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Speaker 1: It goes for most of.

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Speaker 10: The year, and you're getting the wrong for money.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen games plus playoffs and it's big bucks is And

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Speaker 2: so not only is it convoluted, it's getting more expensive

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Speaker 2: to be convoluted. There are very few products in the

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Speaker 2: world that you can make harder to get access to

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Speaker 2: while also making them more expensive. And the customer goes, oh,

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Speaker 2: I can't get enough of that. Judith Collins, I thought

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Speaker 2: yesterday was genius. So she starts out lays the case.

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Speaker 2: Hipken stands up. I thought he was actually pretty good

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Speaker 2: in his argument. Then Bishop stands up and goes, we'll

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Speaker 2: do this another day, and everyone goes, what heaven there?

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Speaker 2: So Judith Collins Winston Peter's, by the way, I'm blocking

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Speaker 2: foreigners buying houses. He might have some good news for us.

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Speaker 1: I hope news opinion and everything in between. The make

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Speaker 1: costing Breakfast with the range Rover villa designed to intrigue

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Speaker 1: and use togs headbs.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven, So it had a touch of the

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Speaker 2: Turkis peace talks. I thought about it, didn't. I mean,

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Speaker 2: a lot of build up to the big day, the

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Speaker 2: big event, only for the government to go for the

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Speaker 2: adjournment on the privileges debate around the Marray party. So

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Speaker 2: we're back to at June five, tomorrow Fortnight Privileges Committee

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Speaker 2: cheered Judith Collins is with us. Very good morning to you.

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Speaker 14: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: A couple of new things if you wouldn't mind, Chris

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Speaker 2: Hopkins suggested you said uncivilized behavior from indigenous people.

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Speaker 11: Did you No, absolutely not.

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Speaker 14: I think he was referring to my interview with you

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Speaker 14: last Tuesday when I said there is a lack of

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Speaker 14: stability now and it's not acceptable. It's entirely wrong for

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Speaker 14: Hipkins have done that, and I've called on him to apologize,

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Speaker 14: and apparently he's going to think about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, he owes you an apology because if you didn't

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Speaker 2: say you didn't say it, and he suggested you did,

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Speaker 2: he started walking it back, saying you'd heard about it

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Speaker 2: in the media, et cetera. So he's got that wrong, right.

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Speaker 14: He has absolutely got it wrong.

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Speaker 2: Palm Jeet Palmer, who's the act member of the committee,

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Speaker 2: is the one who wanted some prison time or to

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Speaker 2: invest gate the possibility of prison time. Does that make

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Speaker 2: it political from the committee's point of view, or was

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Speaker 2: she genuinely looking for context as to what the Privileges

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Speaker 2: Committee can potentially do?

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Speaker 14: Well, I know that people were genuinely looking right across

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Speaker 14: the borders all the options, and there's nothing wrong with

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Speaker 14: asking what are the options? Because from her point of view,

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Speaker 14: I think she's just saying, well, I've heard that these

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Speaker 14: are some of the things. Why you know, on what

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Speaker 14: basis would that be possible? But also what are the

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Speaker 14: old range of options? There's nothing wrong with look at

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Speaker 14: the options. The problem is, of course, is that married

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Speaker 14: party wouldn't apologize, would say married partiship. So it's only

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Speaker 14: three of them, wouldn't do anything, wouldn't meet us at all.

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Speaker 14: And of course their behavior, those three MP's in particular,

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Speaker 14: was so bad that day that certainly I've never seen

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Speaker 14: it before. Winston never seen it before, no one's seen

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Speaker 14: it before.

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Speaker 8: I thought.

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Speaker 2: I thought Hipkins made a reasonable fist of the debate

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Speaker 2: yesterday after your opening, with the exception that the examples

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Speaker 2: he gave of people beating each other up in the

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Speaker 2: lobbies and tractors being driven up the steps. None of

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Speaker 2: it's happened on the floor of Parliament. Interrupting a vote

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Speaker 2: in a business of the day, has it?

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Speaker 14: Yes, No, it has not. And I think you know

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Speaker 14: Hipkins are showing that he likes to talk. Actually, the

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Speaker 14: other examples he gave was Julian Genta, and Julian Genta

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Speaker 14: did not do anything at all as egregious as what

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Speaker 14: happened that day. She didn't interrupt the vote, Telly.

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Speaker 11: She didn't.

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Speaker 14: She didn't actually threaten people with the with a gun

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Speaker 14: sign and she you know, there's lots of it. And

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Speaker 14: also she very quickly apologized and she showed contrition when

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Speaker 14: this was an entirely different situation. So there was obviously

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Speaker 14: always attempts on mcclersey to compromise. But you saw what

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Speaker 14: hipcon was offering yesterday, which was one day suspension for

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Speaker 14: Tea and one day you can't work.

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Speaker 2: It out what you don't want to be within a

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Speaker 2: million miles of the Marray party. Why why is he

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Speaker 2: playing boot lawyer?

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Speaker 14: Well, presumebly he thinks that that's that's who will go

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Speaker 14: into business with should he get an opportunity of being government.

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Speaker 14: I mean that's there's also, of course the very close

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Speaker 14: relationship with Woody Jackson and John timmer Herry who was

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Speaker 14: the president of the Murray Passy.

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Speaker 2: I think that's it, okay, completely out of left field

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Speaker 2: and just for the fun of it. I note in

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Speaker 2: your pecuniary list of gifts you you've got a chairman's

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Speaker 2: lounge pass for Quantas. Is it worth it?

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Speaker 14: I've been able to use once and it is. Actually

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Speaker 14: it's quite nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good to talk to you, Judith Collins. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to go through the list throughout the morning. But she

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Speaker 2: got a chairman's lounge parts of the Quantas Quantus chairman

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Speaker 2: as Large apparently is like the place to be and

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Speaker 2: very few people get it. It is eleven minutes past seven,

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Speaker 2: passing the Hipkins in just a couple of moments. And

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Speaker 2: what he allegedly said, and I didn't realize it was

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Speaker 2: out of this program. You should listen to this program

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Speaker 2: more to get as fact straight. Be that as it may.

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Speaker 2: We've got new data out this morning that shows there's

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Speaker 2: a mess. I think we already know this in our ed.

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Speaker 2: So what happens is occasionally in your ed you'll get

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Speaker 2: at voucher and the use of vouchers and that allows

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Speaker 2: you to go to an after ours clinic and the

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Speaker 2: voucher covers costs of up to two hundred dollars. Now,

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Speaker 2: the number of vouchers issued at why Tackrey Hospital, for

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Speaker 2: example alone just Y Tackery Hospital in Auckland's risen nearly

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Speaker 2: sixty percent.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 2: Luke Bradford is the Royal New Zealand College of GP's

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Speaker 2: medical director. And here is well, this looked very good

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Speaker 2: morning to you morning, Mike. Are numbers kept on this?

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Speaker 2: Would all hospitals? Have you know we handed our X

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Speaker 2: number of vouchers for X number of dollars or not?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? They should do. They should do those who are

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Speaker 11: running the.

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Speaker 2: Schemes, okay, and so do we have any idea with

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Speaker 2: the wy TACKERI is an outlier at sixty percent orere

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Speaker 2: everyone's handing these things out left, right and center.

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Speaker 11: I think the sixty percent increases is probably fairly typical

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Speaker 11: for a couple of reasons. I think probably the total

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Speaker 11: volume is quite high at white Tach Rec compared to

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Speaker 11: a lot of other places in the country.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the discipline. Do we having an understanding? Are they

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Speaker 2: handed out with alacrity or do they go, look, this

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Speaker 2: is a desperate time, here's a boucher.

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Speaker 11: Certainly, the experiences I've had from the hospital's ideal within

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Speaker 11: they have plenty and rotor they're handed out more when

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Speaker 11: things are desperate. In fact, probably a little bit underused.

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Speaker 11: So when the waits get up to a long level

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Speaker 11: and people are going to have to sit there for hours.

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Speaker 2: So people are cognitive that there's money involved in this

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Speaker 2: and we just can't hand out the sort of money left,

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Speaker 2: right and center.

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Speaker 11: I think that was the initial case. I think now

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Speaker 11: that the pressure is on for the six hour target,

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Speaker 11: that's probably where we're seeing some of the shift. And

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Speaker 11: so we know that that one of the five targets

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Speaker 11: is that you're in and out ved within six hours.

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Speaker 11: So the severe used the vouchers, and actually they in

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Speaker 11: that whole economicy and they use it. It's probably cheaper

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Speaker 11: to give out a one hundred and fifty dollars voucher

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Speaker 11: or two hundred dollars voucher given them the average d

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Speaker 11: costs for a visitors eight hundred, that's you know, and if.

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Speaker 2: We got to the bottom of this. When you're handing

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Speaker 2: out vouchers and the queue is long, is the que

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Speaker 2: long because there are people dying in desperate need of help,

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Speaker 2: or some people have got a few sore things that

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Speaker 2: they thought might pop in and have a look at.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it completely varies on the day. The medical teams

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Speaker 11: are all involved with people who are really sick, then

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Speaker 11: everyone else is waiting. But a lot of people do

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Speaker 11: end up in ED when perhaps they wouldn't need to

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Speaker 11: be there, It wouldn't be the optimum place, but when

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Speaker 11: it's expensive to be seen in the community, they often

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Speaker 11: choose that option.

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Speaker 2: So it's a miss, like a big, fat, ugly miss.

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Speaker 16: Ah.

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Speaker 11: No, I think it's it's probably a reasonable way of

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Speaker 11: trying to help the flow of things learning what we

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Speaker 11: have is a recession and increased health need and probably

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Speaker 11: under resource dds and so this is a a solution

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Speaker 11: that's been thought up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I appreciate it very much. Luke Bradford, who's

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Speaker 2: the Royal New Zealand College of General Practitioners EDS, I

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Speaker 2: can tell you a few stories about ed's. They can't,

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Speaker 2: but I would like to, but maybe one day I will,

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Speaker 2: maybe on my second to last day, I will because

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Speaker 2: we've had experience at the public hospital lately and I

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Speaker 2: can tell you it is a shit show in there.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Peter's on the foreign house buyers ban. Shortly seventeen past seven,

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Speaker 2: so maybe some good news on this ongoing grocery debate.

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Speaker 2: Z Energy of announced they're looking to expand their role.

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Speaker 2: So they've got these top up shops, which they argue

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Speaker 2: is the sort of the stuff you need between the

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Speaker 2: big shops, So they're expanding some of those. Sioux Chapman's

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Speaker 2: the chair of the Grocery Action Group, and Cheese will

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Speaker 2: us soon morning, good morning between the warehouse and these

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Speaker 2: sort of offerings. Is this a sign the market's kind

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Speaker 2: of responding or sort of working or not.

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Speaker 13: Look, I don't think it's a sign that the market

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Speaker 13: is working. I mean, really, what we need and what

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Speaker 13: I think Nikola Willis has realized, is that we need

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Speaker 13: light for light competition. So we need you know, big

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Speaker 13: supermarkets like New Worlds and light packing saves or competing.

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Speaker 13: This is you know, this is sort of I mean

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Speaker 13: cynically you could say, why are they announcing this at

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Speaker 13: this time, because they are also, of course a market

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Speaker 13: that's under investigation for sort of duophilistic type behavior. But

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Speaker 13: you know, it's slightly good news for consumers. I imagine

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Speaker 13: everything will be reasonably expensive. They won't have anything fresh

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Speaker 13: or frozen, which is kind of where the big competition is.

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Speaker 13: So a yeah, if you want to top up at

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Speaker 13: it at a gas station, you might be able to

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Speaker 13: get some bits and bobs, but you won't be doing

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Speaker 13: your grocery shop there. And this is not the answer

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Speaker 13: to our problem with some very high grocery prices.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe Willis when she yet again says yesterday

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Speaker 2: out of the budget she's back into them. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what magic is she going to wave our way?

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Speaker 13: I don't think she's going to waive any magic, but

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Speaker 13: I think what she's going to do is say, you know,

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Speaker 13: we can't keep listening to the geopoli saying you know

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Speaker 13: that that we do have competition in New Zealand. We

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Speaker 13: don't you know, they've got sort of eighty ninety percent

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Speaker 13: of the market between two In Australia, they complain when

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Speaker 13: the jeopoly has got sixty percent of the market. So

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Speaker 13: she's going to have to look at ownership quite seriously.

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Speaker 13: But in the end, it may well be that the

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Speaker 13: supermarket owners still own in the food stuff area their shops,

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Speaker 13: but they you know, they have a different sort of

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Speaker 13: head office. There are all sorts of ways of cutting this,

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Speaker 13: and I think she's seriously looking at how that might

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Speaker 13: happen for the benefit of consumers.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what happens to appreciate it, chair of the

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Speaker 2: gross Reaction group. So Chetwyn back to Hipkin. So he said,

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Speaker 2: uncivilized behavior from Indigenous people is what Colin said. That

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Speaker 2: was his claim. She said, not true, you heard her

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Speaker 2: say that. He then defends his comments by claiming Collins

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Speaker 2: had talked about the lack of stability from the married party,

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Speaker 2: which is a completely different thing. Uncivilized behavior from Indigenous

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Speaker 2: people is not the same as saying talked about the

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Speaker 2: lack of stability of the married party. It was on

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Speaker 2: the record last week, he said she was talking about

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Speaker 2: in the media. I understand she was talking about the

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Speaker 2: married party at the time. So he's understanding. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: have a clue what he's talking about. He's making it

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Speaker 2: up as he goes along. My understanding was that the

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Speaker 2: interview was all about the married Pacey, So he didn't

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Speaker 2: hear the interview, didn't bother to go look at the interview,

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Speaker 2: didn't get any details that this is the leader of

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Speaker 2: the opposition. For God's sake, he said he was working

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Speaker 2: off what he had seen reported, happy to go back

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Speaker 2: and look at it. So give her a spray and

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Speaker 2: heaven for that I'm wrong, and if I am, I'll

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Speaker 2: go back and look at it. He owes her an apology.

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Speaker 11: I didn't read much of the news over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah seven a bit busy.

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Speaker 2: Now, have you been waiting for the right time to

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Speaker 2: stock up on the old big brand vitamins? Well time

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Speaker 2: has come. Chemist Wharehouse, come to the party. They got

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Speaker 2: the Mayhem Mega Sale which is on the in store

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Speaker 2: online Chemist's Warehouse. You got up to half price off

871
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: every day low prices on the big favorite brands. What

872
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: have we got? We've got Go Healthy, got Good Vitamins

873
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: all up to half price. You got your Health free.

874
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: He's got your Neutral Life Vitamins up to harp price.

875
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: Live stream Healthy Care vitamins up to half price, Nature's

876
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: Way Clinicians Vitamins up to half price, Blackballs Swiss up

877
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: to half price. Good news doesn't stop there by the

878
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: way you can find me today and Nature's Wigh Vitamins

879
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: up to half price. So this is the sale you've

880
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: been waiting for in store online. Stop paying too much.

881
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 2: These great chemist Warehouse Mayhem Mega sale office got to

882
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 2: end the fourth of June. Teas and season exclusions apply

883
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: that the bargains at Chemist's Warehouse Asking seven twenty four.

884
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: So Chris Heidkins needs help as far as I can

885
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: work out for the life of me. As I said

886
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: to you, ah the moment. Ago got no idea why

887
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: he's wasting his time defending the Marry Party. He sees

888
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: their punishment's too harsh. Problem one is he doing it

889
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: because it is seen as anti government. In other words,

890
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: despite him saying he wasn't going to bark at any

891
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: passing car, ebarks at any passing car. Problem two. This

892
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: reinforces the general view that the Labour Party are soft

893
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: on people who break rules. Consequences should always be watered down.

894
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 2: Problem three. He is the leader of a major party

895
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: and the major parties represent you would have hoped a

896
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: bipartisan view that behavior and rules in etiquette are to

897
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: be adhered to in a place of national leadership. Problem four.

898
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: The Marory Party are nothing but trouble, and you want

899
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: as a centrist to stay well clear of them. They

900
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 2: don't like Parliament, they don't even believe it should exist,

901
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: and if it does exist, they should have a separate

902
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: one for themselves. Hipkins is like some tragic legal aid

903
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: boot lawyer who defends the hopeless for the sake of it.

904
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 2: There is no upside for him, and yet in budget

905
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: week he has brought into the narrative yet again that

906
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 2: some poor SAPs have been hard done by and it's

907
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: all not fair and he somehow has to be on

908
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: the side of the victim. Problem five. So whatever you

909
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: want about the Privileges Committee, but it is the Parliament's

910
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 2: long stand in court and his party is part of it.

911
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: It seems odd and undermining that you're willing to partake

912
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: in the process then bag it when it reaches a conclusion.

913
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: Problem six. A few of his own members, of course,

914
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: were part of the original crime that infamous day when

915
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: things went dramatically to the pack, So maybe he feels

916
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: like a hypocrite given Penny Henerray fell on his sword

917
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: and the others were too belligerent to do so either way.

918
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: Problem seven. New Zealanders want like and demand standards, so

919
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: he's on the wrong side of this. And problem eight.

920
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: When we aren't wanting to improve behavior, we wouldn't mind

921
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: the big players and the political game concentrating on the

922
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: big issues like the mess economically we're currently and as

923
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 2: engineered by the bloke who's busy barking at passing cars,

924
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: The Greens and the Murray Party of minor players and

925
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: not serious people. Labor are supposed to be serious, So

926
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: how about giving it a crack like Cask Winston. If

927
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: he's going to apologize to the heckler at Wellington Rail

928
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: yesterday who may now lose his job, Grant, get real,

929
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: he's not apologizing to him. He's the one who started it.

930
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: It is an interesting debate as I wouldn't have thought

931
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: he's going to lose his job, but it is an

932
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: interesting debate as to when you're an individual and when

933
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: you're a member of the company. Now, the problem was

934
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 2: he was wearing his Tonguin and Taylor as the company's

935
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: wearing his Tonguin and Taylor Lanyard. Can I just say

936
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: something just for the record, this is just me. Don't

937
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: wear lanyards. They are the rudest thing going. Do not

938
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: put pens in your pocket or wear lanyards. Wake up people.

939
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: And as for you people who got your cards, your

940
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: swipe cards on a stretchy bit of elastic to your belt,

941
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: come on, get it together. You probably wear That's what

942
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: I do exactly, say no more. You're a docker Docker

943
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 2: wearing a belt. It's not a laster Mike counter experience

944
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: to yours. At ed Auckland Hospital, people great dedicated, intelligent,

945
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: thoughtful nights moved us forward on a diagnosis that was

946
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: a bit stalled in health service outside the hospital timeframe

947
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 2: is reasonable communication mostly very good Bryce, well done, Bryce

948
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: seeing it straight to swimming and Brown. We found somebody

949
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: who likes the public houses broadly in our experience, and

950
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: I won't breach privacy. I don't want to do any

951
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: of that. The operations side of the equation, one hand

952
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: didn't know what the other was doing. Complete chaos, absolute shambles.

953
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: After care brilliant. So it depends on what bit of

954
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: the health system you touch on what day and who

955
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: you're lucky or lucky enough to be involved with. Is

956
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: my summation of that. Hey, Winston Peters.

957
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Speaker 11: Is next.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views. The mic

959
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: asking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential,

960
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: commercial and rural news talks head been billygo Marke.

961
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Speaker 2: I've just had seven days in Tawer and a hospital

962
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: can't fault the system. From my original diagnosis to now

963
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: have been very impressed and very grateful. Well well done

964
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: you just to wrap up my story. The other thing,

965
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: the aspect that the language, the language and behavior of

966
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 2: too many of the patients in the hospital towards the

967
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 2: staff has to be seen to be believed. It is

968
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: literally third world politics. Wednesday, Mark machil Ginny Anderson after

969
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 2: eight meantime. Now listen, I mentioned earlier this week we're

970
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister. This apartment of I read about in

971
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 2: one roof over the weekends for sale and downtown Auckland

972
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Speaker 2: at seventeen million dollars. It's been on the market literally

973
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Speaker 2: for years. Real estate agents keep talking about offshore interest.

974
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: Trouble is, unless you're an expat or Australian or Singaporean.

975
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: You are locked out of buying property in this country,

976
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: of course, and yet the government have beig on foreign

977
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: capital golden visas. The hold up is New Zealand First,

978
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: who are blocking a move to loosen up access to

979
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: the property market. Our rumors have swirled around the place

980
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: about negotiations. We talked about all this with the Prime

981
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Speaker 2: Minister on Monday. Of course, Sir Winston Peters is with us.

982
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Speaker 2: Very good morning to you.

983
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Speaker 7: Good morning.

984
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: Just before we get to housing, tomk and Taylor, what

985
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 2: should happen to the bloke who abused you yesterday?

986
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 7: Do you think, well, you know, as an importing circumstance,

987
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 7: Wellington and Auckland desperate need railways and need infrastructure. The

988
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 7: need investments and need to bet it now. And I'm

989
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 7: making this announcement and this guy comes out of left

990
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 7: field interrupts U from behind, look like a security matter,

991
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 7: and a security guy said move on. Then we're on

992
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 7: the front of the red it's history now. Tom and

993
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 7: Taylor called me to say, look, they have seriously apologized.

994
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 7: It's well now it's for them now an employment matter

995
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 7: and that being the case over.

996
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: But you don't want to comment on it, okay, when

997
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: in your view, and you're a lawyer, when do you

998
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 2: lose being an individual and start being an employee for

999
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: a company.

1000
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 7: When you sign up to the code of conduct when

1001
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 7: you got the job in the first place, and if

1002
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 7: you're wearing their company's insignia, then maybe you should be

1003
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 7: remembering that.

1004
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: Okay.

1005
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 7: Also, and also if your company actually gets contracts from

1006
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 7: a Kumi rail on from railways, would we otherwise to

1007
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 7: you to keep the counsel, wouldn't it?

1008
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: Yes? It would if he loses his job. Would you

1009
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: feel bad?

1010
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 7: No, I wouldn't faintly because I tell you I'm not

1011
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 7: going to be part of the process anymore, because I've

1012
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 7: said it Tom and it's over to you. But this

1013
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 7: sort of behavior where you just come along and there's

1014
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 7: a whole lot of people saying there, including the media,

1015
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 7: and you decide your first thing you'll say is bullocks

1016
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 7: and start acting someone without listen to what he's saying.

1017
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 7: That behavior is far too prevalent in New Zealand. It's disgraceful.

1018
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 7: We're not going to put up with an inside of

1019
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 7: Parliament or outside of it.

1020
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 2: Okay. Do you know what the word moraification means?

1021
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 7: Yes?

1022
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: How come they having so much trouble with it at

1023
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: the moment.

1024
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 7: Look, I got kicked out of partment yesterday because I said,

1025
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 7: you know what I have being involved in moraification. But

1026
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 7: I went down and got a suntann every Thursday to

1027
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 7: make myself look darker than I really am so I

1028
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 7: can be more able to claim the Mari quantumist that party.

1029
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 7: Maria did and for that and I used the first

1030
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 7: party just a simple question. The speaker kicked me out.

1031
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 7: Now you know there was a time when humor did

1032
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 7: matter in this country and exposure hi popacy in a

1033
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 7: humanus way does matter. So I've got no regrets about

1034
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 7: that at all. Moraification actually means without mandate and without sanction,

1035
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 7: and without discussion or debate with the New Zealand public,

1036
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 7: You elite in the civil service and elsewhere decide you're

1037
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 7: going to change the whole country. With the country likes

1038
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 7: it or not. It happened massively between twenty twenty and

1039
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 7: twenty three three, and it said I've durn and Crucipkens

1040
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 7: and we're not going to go on doing that because

1041
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 7: in the end, the orderly people of this country, whatever

1042
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 7: their background, their feed or their race, they're the ones

1043
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 7: that matter.

1044
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: But here's the problem. And I rose this with the

1045
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: Prime Minister on Monday and it came out and I

1046
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: asked them specifically about your case with m Fat and

1047
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: the job, and the reference or reporting seemed to indicate

1048
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 2: that you're upset and your questioning of that job add

1049
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 2: was a surprise to them. How is it possible that

1050
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: a year and a half into a new government, all

1051
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: parties of whom campaigned on the morification of this country

1052
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: in rectifying it, they can still eighteen months and be surprised.

1053
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 7: Look at the old River Thames mantras, which I've used

1054
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 7: for forty more years and more years of my career

1055
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 7: in politics. You know how it goes. We men may

1056
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 7: come and men may go, but I go on forever.

1057
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 7: Well it's that sort of complex that's in the civil service,

1058
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 7: who say, despite the that's wipe the people's boys, despite

1059
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 7: the mandate that was given to a new government, Well,

1060
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 7: well they'll wait till you go and they'll carry on

1061
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 7: us before. My answer them is noble, you won't. You'll

1062
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 7: do what the coalition agreement says. And if you don't

1063
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 7: do that, then we're going to come for you, because

1064
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 7: you're not responding to a democratic bush.

1065
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 2: All the people right, help me out here. Seventeen million

1066
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 2: dollar apartment in Auckland. It's it's not sold and there's

1067
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: interest from overseas. You're blocking it. What's your problem with it?

1068
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 7: Well, mister Husking, the first thing is you're in real estate.

1069
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 7: Your nervous been on the market that long. It's overpriced.

1070
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 7: It's number one. Don't ask it. Ye going to ask

1071
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 7: every real estate Agentel Dad is massively over priced. The

1072
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 7: second thing is this, Look, this is not the area

1073
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 7: that we're concerned about. The National Party campaign on two million,

1074
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 7: which would take we should take double that at five million.

1075
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 7: It would take two hundred houses to get to one billion,

1076
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 7: and that's still not an investment in their country. Is

1077
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 7: just a bolt hole for them in case they wanted

1078
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 7: to come or not. You remember the person who got

1079
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 7: in six days from the John K Govern's sissenship to

1080
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 7: buy in the South Island. He's never spent one day.

1081
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: I get all that. But if you're out there as

1082
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Speaker 2: foreign minister, and and you've got your golden visa, and

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00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 2: my understanding is the golden visa's working, and the is

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00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 2: interest and the and the bloke comes from San Francisco

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Speaker 2: and he wants to buy, you know, a ten million

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00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: dollar bolt hole. What's still the problem with that?

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Speaker 7: I don't get it, because we are looking for a

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00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 7: commitment to our economy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a golden visa, is it?

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00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 7: Yeah? No, no, no, that's just buying a house. What's

1091
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 7: the investment here?

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00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: The gold because you put five or ten million dollars

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Speaker 2: into the country.

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00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you just said that. No, he put into

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00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 7: a house.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, forget it. I'm confusing you. You get

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Speaker 2: a golden visa by investing ten million dollars into the country.

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Speaker 2: You buy a business, you start employing people. But while

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00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 2: you're here, you need to buy a house. And currently

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00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: under your rules you can go airbnb it or rent it.

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Speaker 2: Do seem to make sense to me?

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Speaker 17: No?

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Speaker 7: No, no, But see you're actually trying to you're actually

1104
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 7: making sense with what you're saying. But that's not what

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00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 7: was put to us. And what was put to us

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Speaker 7: that anybody who was putting down two million could buy

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Speaker 7: a house. Well, now you can tell you this all

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00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 7: the leafy suburbs and art walker.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, hold on im. Look, I'm negotiating between you

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00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: and the Prime minis. The Prime Minister told us on

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00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: Monday that you and him have had discussions and they

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00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 2: came up to five or six million dollars. They said, okay,

1113
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: forget to five or six next to no houses in

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00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 2: this country you sold at five or six million dollars.

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00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 2: Give them some flash houses, let them buy a place,

1116
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: invest in the country and get on with it.

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00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, and better still, let them build a place

1118
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 7: something new. Sure that's not taken from the not the

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00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 7: marketplace where so many New Zealners are looking for housing.

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Speaker 7: Now we have not got that rigid view and the

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00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 7: Prime Minister should not be discussing our negotiations with you

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Speaker 7: with respect. If you want to be trusted, make sure

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Speaker 7: you get the negotiations done.

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Speaker 2: Probably we'll always was asking a question as to what

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Speaker 2: the hold up? And you set the hold up. You

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00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 2: and you're having a negotiation. I just don't understand the logic.

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Speaker 2: I get your logic around say two million, I understand that.

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Speaker 2: But if somebody wants to come to this country and

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00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 2: spend six million dollars on a house plus ten million

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00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: dollars investing in the country building a business, what can

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00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 2: you possibly object to?

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Speaker 7: Look, you make a very powerful agment and wereness thing,

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00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 7: and we've got a talk on that basis and we'll

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00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 7: hope to have them resolved very soon. But we're not

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00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 7: going to have the mass majority m Zealands and the

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00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 7: competition with the whole world.

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Speaker 2: At nine million dollars, the mass majority of New Zealand

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Speaker 2: is aren't in competition.

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Speaker 7: We know that's yeah, I get that, but that wasn't

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Speaker 7: where this discussion began.

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00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: Oh, for goodness sake, I mean, I don't have time

1142
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: to run a radio program in the country, for God's sake,

1143
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: But this seems to me that that you're not far apart.

1144
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: Why can't you sort it and just get on with

1145
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: it and help this guy. All we want is the

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00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: country off its needs and working well.

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00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 7: No, mister Huskin, you are talking about a bolt hole.

1148
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 7: Should you want to come Money's days just in case

1149
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 7: something goes wrong and you're part of the world there,

1150
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 7: How many homes were owned here by China that would

1151
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 7: never occupy you.

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00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: But this is Winston's ancient history. No, no, no, no,

1153
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 2: how tied to the Golden visa. You get a golden

1154
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: visa with you five or ten million dollars and you're

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00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:05,959
Speaker 2: allowed to buy a house.

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Speaker 7: Why can't I do that? Look, don't tench some grandmother

1157
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 7: suck eggs. The realities don't know what you're talking about,

1158
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 7: and we're working on it, but the reality is we've

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00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 7: made a disaster of immigration policy. Go to Singapore, go

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00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 7: to the Inmirates. You can do a lot of things

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00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 7: in all those countries, but you cannot get what you're

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00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 7: justising for. But they come anyway because we don't have

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00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 7: a proper focus policy and we're tend to get this

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00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 7: matter fixed up. I at your point, I want to

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00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 7: see people coming with their billions, not just two hundred

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00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 7: people putting five minute each theme in.

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Speaker 2: With that sort of money, they've got to be able

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00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 2: to buy a house, don't. I Mean, what all I'm

1169
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 2: saying is just pull every lever, just like, make every

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00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: effort to show us that we're trying to get off

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00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 2: our knees here, and this seems to be a needless roadblock.

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Speaker 7: I look for all those tens and twenties and forty

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00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 7: and fifty thousand people on the motorway right now, the

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00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 7: messages we're listening, but we're going to have a policy

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00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 7: that works that looks a bit like Singapore, looks like

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Speaker 7: the Emirates, looks like the smart countries that taken off

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Speaker 7: while we have been stagnant these last forty years with

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00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 7: this futile the idea of how what investment looks like

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00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 7: we're out to get. We're a party that announced that

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00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 7: one hundred billion dollars a future fund. We mean business.

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00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 7: But when you asked the question, how are you going

1182
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 7: to get it? All the rest of them got an answer,

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00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 7: but we do.

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Speaker 2: Ever, are you close to lifting this ban on foreign houses?

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00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 7: You can say that it will not be in the budget,

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00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 7: but it is a work with a high concentration to

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00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 7: be successful and to be announced before too long.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Appreciate your time very much, Winston Peters, I think

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00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: we made some ground.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen to two, The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

1191
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks it Be.

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00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 2: Mike has always great interview with Uncle Winston. Unfortunately, it's

1193
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: a good summary of why nothing gets done in this country.

1194
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 2: Such simple issues get complicated for no reason at all,

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00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: and we're just stalled. He's I hope we may progress.

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00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 2: His wandering down memory lane. I get where is coming from,

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00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: but at five or six million dollars just look at

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00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: the real estate sales in this country. Most people ninety

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Speaker 2: nine percent of people can't afford a house anything over

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00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 2: five million dollars. People from overseas can and they invest

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00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,479
Speaker 2: in the country and they spend their ten million dollars,

1202
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 2: get a golden visa, they start a business, they employ people,

1203
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: they expand they help us out. They want a place

1204
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: to live. Is it that hard, really? And if it

1205
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 2: is that hard, your texting points a very good one.

1206
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 2: If it is that hard, then we're done for Let's

1207
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: spend a couple of moments on some very good news,

1208
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: so reap business desk. This is reported from the dairy season.

1209
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: The dairy season is about to end. May thirty one.

1210
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: The season ends. Almost a perfect dairy season. Is the

1211
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 2: summation from the industry. Almost a perfect dairy season. A

1212
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 2: cracker is another line used. Look it up and read

1213
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: it sin lay. Their people are saying nothing short of

1214
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: a wonderful season. And then we come to rabobanks report

1215
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: on the meat industry and the amount of money and

1216
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: where it's going and how much warning and their report

1217
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: on that industry for you in just a couple of moments,

1218
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: nine minutes away from.

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Speaker 1: It, the Mike Hosking, Breakfast with the Range Rover, the

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00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: La News, togs Head Bee.

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00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 2: There's me a couple of moments on this because it's

1222
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: just wonderful reading to be reminded there are bits of

1223
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: this country that can actually perform and do well. So

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00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: Rabobank they've had a look at the beef prices, the

1225
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: lamb prices, the meat industry in general. Optimism is a

1226
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: welcome guest at the New Zealand farming table. Beef pricing

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00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: has been the cherry on top, with week on week

1228
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: record breaking farm gate prices through March and April. The

1229
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: fundamentals but behind the higher price is basically good global demand.

1230
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: UK and EU lamb love it beef, US love it.

1231
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: Lower global supply has helped us out the beef schedule

1232
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: for the North Island across the bull beef, the prime

1233
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: beef the coal cow continues to hit record highs. Average

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00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: pricing is up fifty percent on a five year average

1235
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: fifty percent. In March, the total value of beef hit

1236
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: an all time high five hundred and thirty four million,

1237
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: which is thirty two million more than the previous high,

1238
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 2: so it's record after record. This is despite the monthly

1239
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: volume of exports volume being ninth high, so ninth highest volume.

1240
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 2: But the dollars we're getting quality, price breaking records. US

1241
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: biggest market for New Zealand in both volume man value.

1242
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 2: US demand going nowhere. They love it, can't get enough Lamb.

1243
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: Farm gate pricing also strong, sitting at twenty percent above

1244
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: the five year average. So I gave you dery before

1245
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: the best of seasons, perfect summer. What to watch for. Tariffs,

1246
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: retaliatory actions, et cetera could be an issue, but we're

1247
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: sitting at ten percent. If it stays at ten percent

1248
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: with the US, we're fine because people at ten percent

1249
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: parts is like Australia, their competition with US, We're okay.

1250
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: Consumer demand in America remained strong. The lower dollar, they say,

1251
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 2: cannot be ignored, and that is a problem. And I

1252
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: keep arguing for this. A lower dollar, you know, fifty

1253
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 2: four to fifty five or forty four, you can't survive

1254
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: like that. Strong countries have strong economies and strong economies

1255
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: have strong currency. We don't, and if we're relying on that,

1256
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: we're in real trouble. Long term interest rates are good

1257
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: for US, they're falling further. Interest rate movement is coming,

1258
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: they say. Overall, the hand that's been dealt to New

1259
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: Zealand sheep and bee farmers in twenty twenty five looks

1260
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 2: strong and if the sector pays its cards right, that

1261
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 2: is likely to help boost profitability in the red meat

1262
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: sector over the remainder of the season. So dairy good,

1263
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: red meat good. Thank god, there is something in this

1264
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: economy that is working and working.

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00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 16: Well.

1266
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: Well done you guys. News I mean politics Wednesday.

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00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: Setting me agenda and talking the big issues, the my

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00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: Hosking breakfast with a Veda, retirement, communities, life, your way,

1269
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Speaker 1: news togs head be.

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Speaker 9: Sometimes that I was yesterday and you still tomorrow, when

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00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 9: all the times still.

1272
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Speaker 1: The lines?

1273
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Speaker 8: Is it a filo?

1274
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 2: Quite like it?

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01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: And back in.

1276
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 9: Before the casters, we're just standing the neck.

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01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: She spent quite a bit of time playing with John

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01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: Mayer John Mayle.

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01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 9: Today that's justus Joys.

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01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: And her name is as You Wont hold On It's

1281
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: like a mural.

1282
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 2: On the album is a lap steel guitarist called Cindy

1283
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: cash Door and sometimes I was just about to say

1284
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 2: her name. The main artist's name is Carolyn Wonderland, and

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01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: I don't think Wonderland's her name thought, but I'm pretty

1286
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 2: sure that Cindy cash Doll is not called Cindy cash

1287
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: doll or either, So what's going on here? I think

1288
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: a lot of people have made up names. They on

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Speaker 2: the run spoke twelve tracks, started forty seven minutes and

1290
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 2: twenty five seconds worth of this a furl It's not bad,

1291
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: but it's past eight. Mitchells with us, along with Ginny

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Speaker 2: and some Good morning you too, good morning, morning, good morning.

1293
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Speaker 2: I've got your pecuniary list in front of me. Details.

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Speaker 17: Well, you heard you were very disappointed with it because

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Speaker 17: we don't have much on that.

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Speaker 2: I just feel well when you say not much. Neither

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Speaker 2: of you have received a single gift. Now, just for

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Speaker 2: the record that I'm assuming you get offered things and

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Speaker 2: you turn them down, or is it really sad and

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Speaker 2: you were offered nothing?

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Speaker 18: Well, I think it's a five hundred I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 18: just discussing this on offline, I think it's a five

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Speaker 18: hundred dollars limit. So if it's under five hundred, you don't.

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Speaker 2: Have to So you've got a bit of stuff stashed

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Speaker 2: away there, Jinny in the cupboard that was under five hundred.

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Speaker 18: We just got stuff that was under five hundred yeah,

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Speaker 18: I'm thinking of flax and you know ornaments. You know what,

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Speaker 18: you get some interesting stuff. Mark will tell you.

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Speaker 2: I've bet maybe got you got any largro in the

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Speaker 2: cupboard there, Jenny, yea, the limit is five hundred.

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Speaker 17: I've got a few challenge coins that were given to me.

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Speaker 17: I offered tickets to sports games a lot, but I

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Speaker 17: always decline those. Why although now I've got sport and

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Speaker 17: wreck mainly because I'm just to be perfectly honest with you,

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Speaker 17: because I'm so busy and too busy that if i

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Speaker 17: do get some downtime, I'll like to spend it with

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Speaker 17: my family. See.

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Speaker 2: Now here's it's embarrassing at this particular point of time

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Speaker 2: because that was really good as an answer. And yet

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Speaker 2: I look at Chris Bishop, who appears to spend his

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Speaker 2: entire life either the Olympics or the cricket or the rugby.

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Speaker 17: Well that that was just that was just going to

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Speaker 17: say that, minister. Well, I'm now the Minister of sports, so.

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Speaker 2: You're going to have to turn up some sport.

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Speaker 17: Yeah I do, and I and I do, and I

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Speaker 17: go to many sports events now in that role, and

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Speaker 17: I enjoy them. I love sport. I've been involved in

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Speaker 17: sport my whole life and it's got an important role

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Speaker 17: to play for us the country. But Ambish is also

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Speaker 17: the Associate Minister of Sport.

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Speaker 18: And true though there wasn't they didn't used to be

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Speaker 18: as far as I remember an Associate Minister of Sport.

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Speaker 2: I think he just made that up too many ministers.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, well he's well, he's focused on support diplomacy and

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Speaker 17: also he's the infrastructure Minister and we've got a lot

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Speaker 17: of facilities that we want to deliver and he's got

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Speaker 17: oversight on everything that we're doing as a country.

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Speaker 2: Also since also he was at the Pool Jam concert.

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Speaker 2: So he's a headbanger too, isn't it.

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Speaker 17: He loves his music concerts absolutely, so Boyak.

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Speaker 2: Who seems ginny to have more free tickets than anybody

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Speaker 2: else in the history of the world. She is arts

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Speaker 2: and so she would defend it by going I was

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Speaker 2: at Wearable Arts, and I was at the opera, and

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Speaker 2: I was at the choir, and I was at the

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Speaker 2: Book Awards, and I was at the ballet. She she's

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Speaker 2: doing her job, would be her argument.

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Speaker 17: I take it.

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Speaker 18: He she does get a lot of those events, is

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Speaker 18: arts and culture spikes person and also understanding, you know,

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Speaker 18: going along and seeing those events, how they're running, where

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Speaker 18: they they're well run, and if they funded. All those

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Speaker 18: sorts of things come up as well as going along.

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Speaker 2: Okay, see Paul Goldsmith went to Pink. I don't see

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Speaker 2: him there. I don't see Paul enjoying Pink. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it.

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Speaker 7: Pink. Did you go to Pink?

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Speaker 2: I didn't go to Pink, but I know people pink.

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Speaker 2: But Paul Goldsmith's a bit stiff to go to Pink,

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Speaker 2: isn't he. I mean he's a bit thing like you.

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Speaker 17: He's a chaffo fed, So yeah, I think you'd go

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Speaker 17: to a Yeah, a big shove foo fed. Just just

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Speaker 17: very quickly, while we're talking sport, I want to give

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Speaker 17: a shout out to us. What our pre woman's team

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Speaker 17: that beat north Shore on the weekend. I went down

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Speaker 17: watched the game. They're outstanding, so big shout out to them.

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Speaker 2: Luxon got a case of twelve bottles of Gibson Valley Winery. Mark,

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Speaker 2: have you seen any of that? Does he share that

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Speaker 2: stuff with.

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 17: I haven't, but I'll have to ask him about it. There.

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Speaker 7: He doesn't drink, we should ask him.

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Speaker 2: Actually, very good point. He doesn't drink right now. Our

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Speaker 2: next question for you, Ginny, Tom and Taylor is standing

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Speaker 2: on the platform at the railway station, some bloke starts

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Speaker 2: abusing you. You've got the apology from the company. Where's

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Speaker 2: the line, what's the line between being an individual and

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Speaker 2: being working for a company with a lanyard your neck

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Speaker 2: and what should happen to him?

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Speaker 18: Well, when I was when I was working in Parliament,

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Speaker 18: I remember a case where someone had back in the

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Speaker 18: day when Trevor Mallard was trying to build a stadium

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Speaker 18: down by the Wadi two thousand and someone with their

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Speaker 18: work address wrote a rude, pretty rude email, so similar

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Speaker 18: case using having something work on you but taking your

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Speaker 18: personal opinion, and Trevor really went to task to the

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Speaker 18: company which was reason we well known, and said it's

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Speaker 18: unacceptable for someone to be doing that worth work. So

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Speaker 18: I think it is not a good reflection on the

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Speaker 18: company that's paying your wages if you were giving your

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Speaker 18: own personal views wearing branded wearing branded stuff is where

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Speaker 18: it goes wrong. That you can do that off your

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Speaker 18: own bat from your private email or with your own

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Speaker 18: coat over your jacket. That's your decision. But if you're

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Speaker 18: bringing your company into it. I think that's a real

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Speaker 18: what do you reckon?

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Speaker 17: I just think you've made a great point. What was

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Speaker 17: de Lenya? And two? Look look, my mum raised us

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Speaker 17: to treat other treat others as you have them treat you,

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Speaker 17: and I think that he not only was he disrespectful

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Speaker 17: towards the Deputy Prime Minister in the minister on announcement,

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Speaker 17: he was disrespectful to all those that were there to

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Speaker 17: hear the announcement. But you know it's obviously up to

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Speaker 17: his company to figure out what how they're going to

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Speaker 17: deal with that.

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Speaker 2: All right, brief break more in the moment, Mark and Jinny.

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Speaker 2: It is thirteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, coward By News.

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Speaker 2: Talks It by sixteen past eight Politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: Ginny Anderson. Let's not get bogged down on this, but

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Speaker 2: just a quick comment of you wouldn't mind Ginny on

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Speaker 2: what happened in the House yesterday. What is the ross

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Speaker 2: on debt of mister Hipkins and his endless defense of

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Speaker 2: the Maori Party. Why do you need to dabble in

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Speaker 2: this area? The Privileges Committee met, they made a decision.

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Speaker 2: It is what it is.

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Speaker 18: Move on, well, rules are important at a time when

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Speaker 18: everything's going a bit crazy, which it has been lately.

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Speaker 18: Sticking to the rules is important for everybody, and going

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Speaker 18: to twenty one days is not sticking to the rules.

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Speaker 18: Standing orders is really clear on what the number of

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Speaker 18: days is. So they needed to make a clear distinction

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Speaker 18: as to why they departed from rules.

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Speaker 2: Can I just well, okay, that was the one point

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Speaker 2: he made that I thought did make sense, So fair enough.

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Speaker 2: But that aside. What's famous about the Privileges Committee is

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Speaker 2: it's all powerful. It can allegedly, hence the prison sentence idea,

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Speaker 2: can do anything, can do anything. So therefore it is

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Speaker 2: what it is. It's been accepted as being.

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Speaker 7: It is what it is.

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Speaker 2: At twenty one day. There you go, don't don't point

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Speaker 2: guns at people, and don't dance on the floor and

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Speaker 2: interrupt the boat of the house. You know tried, and

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Speaker 2: what's why defend it? Why try to water it.

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Speaker 18: Down, because it's important that you have faith in the

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Speaker 18: rules and faith in the system, which.

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Speaker 2: You're part of the system. Though, that's the point of

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Speaker 2: the Privileges Committee everyone, So.

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Speaker 18: You need to treat light. It was a split decision.

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Speaker 2: But that's life. So it's a jury decision. You know,

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Speaker 2: you go to court.

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Speaker 11: It is what it is.

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Speaker 18: So other examples where token it and tripa Mallard are

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Speaker 18: rolling around the corridors punching each other, not in the

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Speaker 18: house's intimidating each other in the house. There's been a

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Speaker 18: couple of instance since.

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Speaker 2: But not the same way. I mean, look, I just

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Speaker 2: don't get it.

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Speaker 18: It's difficult. It's difficult to establish why twenty one days

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Speaker 18: and that everyone agrees that that seems a huge amount

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Speaker 18: of time and it is really consumed. Maybe it's a deterror,

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Speaker 18: right if you've got a government who's keeping opposition in

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Speaker 18: peas out, so that.

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Speaker 2: You think, mate, so what do you argue Mark that

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Speaker 2: it was what it was? Or is this political or what?

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Speaker 17: No, they're trying to make it political. I think that

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Speaker 17: there was behavior in the House that we have never

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Speaker 17: seen before as a country. The Privileges Committee would have

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Speaker 17: taken all of the seriousness of the offending and what occurred,

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Speaker 17: and they would have tried to apply the consequences that

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Speaker 17: matches that and pure labor style, which we had six

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Speaker 17: years of this. They want to revet. They they don't

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Speaker 17: want consequences that matches the serious of the offending, and

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Speaker 17: that's what they're going on about. Yesterday, oazat Government House

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Speaker 17: with Governor General hanging out posthumously a Bravery award to

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Speaker 17: Consul Matthew Hunt's family. I was there with Dane and

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Speaker 17: Sam and Ellie and I was also there were three

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Speaker 17: other gentlemen that received Bravery awards for their outstanding work

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Speaker 17: they did at the Linn Moore ter attack. And I

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Speaker 17: can tell you now they're not talking about this stuff.

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Speaker 17: There was bad behavior in the House. The Privileges Committee

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Speaker 17: have come down with consequences for that. We've got to

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Speaker 17: respect that and get on with it.

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Speaker 18: We agree that there should be a sanction. There definitely

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Speaker 18: should be a but it needs to be should be

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Speaker 18: in line with others similar.

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Speaker 17: You're challenging and questioning the Premira and that's not right.

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Speaker 18: But Mark has got one good point and that people

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Speaker 18: are sick of politicians talking about themselves and they would

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Speaker 18: prefer we got back to issues like women's pay and

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Speaker 18: the cost of love.

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Speaker 17: True, but that's exactly what you're doing. You keep relitigating it,

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Speaker 17: you keep talking about it, and that's not wrong.

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Speaker 2: See I would have seen Jenny, if i'd if I'd

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Speaker 2: been advising you guys, I would have said, don't debate,

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Speaker 2: just get on with it, move on.

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Speaker 18: We choose it that it's a government who you don't.

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Speaker 2: Have to stand up. You don't have to stand up

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Speaker 2: and debate.

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Speaker 18: It's an order on the order paper brought by the

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Speaker 18: government who then changed their mind, by the way and

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Speaker 18: put it off into last of the budget.

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Speaker 17: You're not you're not accepting the finding of the Privileged Committee,

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Speaker 17: and you're trying to re litigate it. And you're the

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Speaker 17: ones that are keeping this thing alive. You're the ones

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Speaker 17: that continue to want to debate it. Everyone else in

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Speaker 17: the rest of the country you want to move on

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Speaker 17: as you.

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Speaker 18: Got any one. It's disproportionate and we stand by.

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Speaker 2: All right, quick thing, right, quick quick comment. Mark on

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Speaker 2: the budget tomorrow. What to look out for, Tell me

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Speaker 2: what to look out for. Don't you give it away?

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Speaker 2: Don't it's a question, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Just tell me what.

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Speaker 18: Women's pay going to increase women's pay right across.

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Speaker 17: I think I think you can definitely look out for

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Speaker 17: and what the Finance Minister has underlined and underscored is

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Speaker 17: it's a growth budget. We've got to get growth back

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Speaker 17: into our economy because that's the way that we can

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Speaker 17: continue to fund and provide world class services. It's the

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Speaker 17: way that we can grow jobs, it's the way that

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Speaker 17: we can grow wages. So it's going to be a

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Speaker 17: growth budget.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you say you looking out for?

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Speaker 18: Well, how do you get growth going when all of

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Speaker 18: those thirty three paquitdy claims are being taken away by

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Speaker 18: this budget? And that's what's paying for it. So it's

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Speaker 18: going to be known to be finished. Please let me finish,

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Speaker 18: Mark that this is the budget that will be remember

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Speaker 18: in New Zealand history. Is the budget that caused women's

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Speaker 18: pay to go backwards. And that's the truth.

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Speaker 17: Well, I'll tell you how to get a growth budget

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Speaker 17: and let's not have a Labour Greens and to party,

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Speaker 17: Mary party government and place.

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Speaker 18: That's how did you come up that one yourself?

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Speaker 1: Digit it's a great I think it's a very good one.

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Speaker 2: Nice to see you guys, Mark Mitchell, Jinny Anderson. It

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Speaker 2: of Washington this morning. He's talked about it for a while,

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Speaker 2: the Golden Dome. So Israel's gotten their dome, the iron dome.

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Speaker 2: Trump's going to have a golden dome. So we're in

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Speaker 2: the Oval office. Pete Hegseth is there. They're probably hooked

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Speaker 2: it into signal just so everyone else can listen in.

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Speaker 2: How much does golden Dome cost? One hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: five billion dollars.

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Speaker 6: Once fully constructed, the Golden Dome will be capable of

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Speaker 6: intercepting missiles even if they are launched from other sides

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Speaker 6: of the world, and even if they're launched from space,

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Speaker 6: and we will have the best system ever built. As

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Speaker 6: you know, we helped Israel with THEIRS and it was very.

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Speaker 19: Successful, and now we have technology that's even far advanced

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Speaker 19: from that. But including hypersonic missiles, ballistic missiles, and advanced

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Speaker 19: cruise missiles, all of them will be knocked out.

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Speaker 7: Of the air.

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Speaker 2: Only problem is the immediate question if I was in

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Speaker 2: the defense force, that I would raise is that the

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Speaker 2: reason Israel has an iron Dome is because they spend

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Speaker 2: quite a lot of time getting bombed, and last time

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Speaker 2: I looked to America doesn't really spend a lot of

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Speaker 2: time getting bombed. Unless Trump knows something that I don't,

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Speaker 2: so I'd be going bang for buck. No pun intended,

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Speaker 2: mister President. I'm just wondering if we've got bit of

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Speaker 2: you know, things to spend our money on. Canada's apparently

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Speaker 2: going to be involved the new tax bill, A big,

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Speaker 2: beautiful bill is going to ride twenty five billion of

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Speaker 2: that one hundred and seventy five billion dollars and it's

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Speaker 2: going to be operational in three years. I'll believe that

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Speaker 2: when I see it, unless they get it from Costco,

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Speaker 2: and I obviously don't.

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's basically the same as Israel's other than

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Speaker 10: the fact that Israel is only point two two percent

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Speaker 10: the size of the United States.

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Speaker 2: Exactly well as scale at scale, isn't it you get

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Speaker 2: bulk deals of that precise You're just buy more of

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Speaker 2: the bits that you need. I'm assuming is how that

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Speaker 2: works politics? Historic day yesterday as the coalition fell apart.

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Speaker 1: More shortly, the Breakfast show Kiwi's trust to stay in

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Speaker 1: the know, the Mike asking breakfast with the range rovervi

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Speaker 1: La designed to intrigue and use togs headb.

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Speaker 2: Micah feel for all those protesters who took time off

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Speaker 2: work to be at Parliament yesterday only to have the

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Speaker 2: government postpone the debate. Colin Well said, the Privileges Committee

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Speaker 2: Mike have made a recommendation to suspend the Marory party

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Speaker 2: concerned why on earth doesn't the government just do it? Well,

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Speaker 2: it's not the government, they are weak and now the

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Speaker 2: Maori party. The debate goes on forever. It's the speaker

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Speaker 2: who's the problem. And he wanted everyone to have a say.

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Speaker 2: And not only did he want everyone to have a say,

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Speaker 2: he then wanted everyone to if they wanted to put

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Speaker 2: forward an amendment, and that they put ford an amendment,

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Speaker 2: then they could have a say on that as well.

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Speaker 2: So what you saw yesterday, if you watched the debate

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Speaker 2: and the bit of it that started, it was Collins,

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Speaker 2: you did a bit, Hipkins did his bit. Amendment was

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Speaker 2: then moved. But then if Hipkins had put an amendment up,

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Speaker 2: he would have got another ten minutes. Then the second

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Speaker 2: speaker amendment up and it's twenty minutes per person times

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty three. Whole thing's a shamble. If

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Speaker 2: you're going to have a court, which is what the

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Speaker 2: Privileges Committee is, you hear the case, you make a decision.

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Speaker 2: Another word, it's a verdict that end twenty two.

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Speaker 1: To nine International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, Peace

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Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Chris's very good morning to you.

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Speaker 16: Get o there.

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Speaker 2: How one history and two out of left field was yesterday.

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Speaker 16: I start with the latter, completely left field. I couldn't

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Speaker 16: believe it when I heard it.

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Speaker 11: I was in the car.

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Speaker 16: It came up on talkback radio and I said, what

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Speaker 16: I mean. The result two weeks ago in the election

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Speaker 16: obviously was a disaster for the coalition, and there had

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Speaker 16: been mutherings about whether the coalition could survive, but everybody

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Speaker 16: thought they would. There's no I mean to explain to people.

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Speaker 16: The Liberal Party in the National Party in the Federal

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Speaker 16: Parliament had been a coalition for more than one hundred years.

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Speaker 16: They split once in nineteen eighty seven for about four months.

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Speaker 16: John Howard was the leader of the Liberal Party at

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Speaker 16: that time, the former Queensland premiers Jovial Competers and decided

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Speaker 16: he wanted to become Prime Minister and decided to start

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Speaker 16: this thing called Joe for Canberra, which was a disaster

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Speaker 16: and they got thrashed by Bob Hawke in that election.

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Speaker 16: And John Howard took another three years to come back

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Speaker 16: and win win the prime ministership. So everyone thought, well,

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Speaker 16: you know, cooler heads will get together, this will all

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Speaker 16: get sorted out. The coalition much diminish, but they'll get

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Speaker 16: back together again and they'll fight the election in three

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Speaker 16: years time. That's not going to happen, and reports today

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Speaker 16: suggest that this split could last all the way to

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Speaker 16: the next election. And to put it into some sort

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Speaker 16: of understandable context, when Parliament resumes, which is late next

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01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 16: month in June, the Liberal Party will sit there with

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Speaker 16: twenty eight members in the lower House. The Natural Nationals

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01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 16: will have fifteen, and they'll look across the dispatch box

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01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 16: table and there'll be ninety three labor MPs sitting there

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Speaker 16: staring at them. And I can only imagine what John Howard,

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Speaker 16: with his acubra off sitting on a jet flying back

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Speaker 16: from Rome, would have said when his phone rang and

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Speaker 16: I presume they can ring our version of air Force

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01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 16: one that the coalition had split.

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01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 11: He could not believe his luck.

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01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 16: I mean this probably Lee, without overstating it is probably

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01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,839
Speaker 16: the destruction of the Liberal Party in Australia.

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Speaker 2: For YEA, it is one for the ages. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you just go back I think about this last

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Speaker 2: night and looking forward to talking to you about it.

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01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 2: You go back six months and what was the conversation.

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01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,799
Speaker 2: The conversation was Dutton was credible, Elbow was in trouble.

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01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 2: It was a tight race. He might get back probably

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01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 2: a minority. The economy stunk, They weren't overly happy. And

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Speaker 2: here we are six months later, ninety three seats bang,

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01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,560
Speaker 2: and the Opposition has blown to pieces.

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Speaker 16: And out of government for generations, I mean, without overstating it.

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01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 16: And when we have three year terms here, everyone was

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01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 16: suggesting after the election result, well Labour's back for at

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01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 16: least two Well it could be three now, I mean

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01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 16: it could be much longer than that. And when you

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01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 16: look around the world, and I know you have a

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01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 16: global beew on these things, you look at the split

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01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 16: of the Conservatives in the UK, with Nigel Ferras basically

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01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 16: now the face of Conservative polity in the UK up

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01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 16: against a weak ki Starma. That's what's happened here. And

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01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 16: I just don't know whether Australia has a Nigel Farags

1677
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 16: for a start, but the Nationals will now drift further

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01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 16: to the right. I hate using that term, but they

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01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 16: will become the face of conservative politics. And what's going

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01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:25,719
Speaker 16: on in this country is really fascinating because the regional

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01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 16: politicians that represent people who grow the food and work

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01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 16: in the regions. I mean, they are now saying, well,

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01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 16: you don't care about us, and the Liberals don't care

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01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 16: about us. We're out here. We've got power lines being

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01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 16: plowed through our farms that we don't want. We've got

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01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 16: wind turbines being built on our property that we don't

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01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 16: want being built there, and that's just making the regional

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01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 16: farmers of Australia angry. So they're turning toward their own

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01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 16: natural party, the Nationals, and I think you know one

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01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 16: nation will probably end up doing some sort of deal

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01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 16: perhaps down the line with the name party. And the

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01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 16: Libs are just left out stranded. As I said to

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01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 16: you on Monday, they don't even have one seat in

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01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 16: all of Metropolitan Adelaide. Where are they going to go?

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01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 2: What happened? Just to explain it so little proud and

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01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:18,560
Speaker 2: like why didn't they just do the Look, we'll have

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01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 2: a review, so especially the Liberals, we'll have a review

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01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 2: of where we're at, how we blew it, what's gone wrong?

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Speaker 2: Once we've done that, let's come back together, have a

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01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 2: chat and we'll carry on as per what blew it apart.

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01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 16: Now, one thing blew at apart. The Nationals said, listen,

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01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 16: if we're going to go back into coalition with you

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01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 16: and you did really badly at the election, this is little.

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01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 11: Proud to lark.

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01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 16: What we want to be able to do is we

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01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 16: want to be able to have front bench ministers in

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01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 16: the joint cabinet to be able to say I don't

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01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 16: agree with that policy. And it came down to net zero.

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01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 16: So the Nationals are saying, there's no way Australia it's

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01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 16: going to get to net zero by twenty thirty or

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01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 16: twenty fifty, and we don't want any part of that.

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01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 11: And so we want to be to stand up and

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01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 11: say no, no, you can say that you want to

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01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 11: agree to that, we don't.

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01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 16: And that's what blew apart. There was a couple of

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01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 16: other things the Nationals wanted. They set up this really

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01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 16: hard one deal with the Liberal Party where they were

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Speaker 16: going to have a future fund for the Bush, Australian Bush.

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Speaker 16: So you'd have a bunch of money stuck away in

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Speaker 16: a bank account earning interest and the interests would then

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Speaker 16: go to wood pet projects of the Nationals. They got

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Speaker 16: that through the party room, and the Libs are not

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Speaker 16: guaranteed that they could keep that policy in place, so

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01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 16: it was over policies they fell apart.

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Speaker 10: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Fortunately Victoria looks really good at the moment I was

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Speaker 2: find have I got my numbers right? The debt's only

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01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: going from one hundred and sixty seven billion dollars to

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety four billion dollars.

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Speaker 16: You've got your numbers right. The place is a complete disaster.

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Speaker 16: I mean, the one thing about the federal result is

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Speaker 16: hopefully Victorians will wake up and at the end of

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Speaker 16: next year get rid of a really bad state. Labor

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Speaker 16: government have to listen to these numbers the tax take

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Speaker 16: on Victorian So these are state taxes twenty thirty the

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Speaker 16: fifty billion dollars a year. That's up one hundred and

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Speaker 16: seventy three percent since the Labor Party were elected in

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Speaker 16: twenty fourteen. So in ten years the tax take has

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Speaker 16: gone up one hundred and seventy three percent. And the

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Speaker 16: fool who is now the Treasurer, Jacqueline Simes said yesterday

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Speaker 16: when asked about the tax take, she said, well, Unlike

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Speaker 16: Western Australia who dig money literally out of the ground,

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01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 16: all we have is payroll tax and property taxes to

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Speaker 16: keep the state running. I mean that is just ridiculous.

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01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 16: And the public service wages bill has gone up thirty

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01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 16: eight percent in ten years. I mean seriously, and we're

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Speaker 16: still paying something I forgot. We're still paying the COVID

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01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 16: debt level. I mean what COVID?

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Speaker 14: I mean seriously unreal?

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Speaker 2: All right, mate, go well, for see you next week.

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Speaker 2: Sleep Price in Victoria in Australia eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Twelve minutes away from lie listening to your show this morning,

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01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 2: and how strongly you advocate for overseas buyers to enter

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01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 2: the property market? Offs course to wonder if you are

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01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 2: so ardent because the show is sponsored by Bailey's Real

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01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 2: Estate question mark, more foreign buyers, higher prices for real

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01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 2: estate in Auckland, all positive for Bailey's real estate agents.

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Speaker 2: Tell me I'm wrong, please, and you're wrong. Unfortunately, the

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01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 2: text doesn't make sense. Why I advocate for foreign buyers

1762
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,759
Speaker 2: is because this country, I don't know if you've noticed,

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01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 2: is on its nees economically and needs all the help

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01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 2: it can possibly get. Golden visas foreign buyers investment in

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01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: the country is a critical part of that particular equation,

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01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 2: and they're locked out of the country. So we're happy

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01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,759
Speaker 2: to take the money to start a business, buy a business,

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01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 2: build a business, grow a business, but we can't give

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01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,919
Speaker 2: them a house that in itself as a policy is stupid.

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01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: Most of the houses we're talking about not what you

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01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 2: and I would buy. These are the only reason I

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01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 2: found that example is it happened to be in one

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01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: roof and happening to be reading it over the weekend.

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01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 2: One roof is owned by the herald who I also

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01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:22,919
Speaker 2: all hold on. So no one had bought the apartment

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01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 2: because we don't have seventeen million dollars, but somebody from

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01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 2: Hong Kong or Germany or England or America probably does well.

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01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 2: It hasn't been for sale that long, has it for

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01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: several years. All I want, all I want is this

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01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 2: country to get its act back together again, and that's

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01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 2: what I advocate for. And if it takes some people

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01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 2: coming in buying seventeen million dollar apartments, twenty million dollar

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01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 2: houses and starting companies, then so be it. We didn't

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01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 2: mention the dairy auction, which we should have done this morning,

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01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 2: last of the season. Down a smidge, but overall, as

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01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 2: far as dairy auctions are concerned, it's been a wonderful run.

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01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 2: Whole Milk down a point, skim milt down point seven,

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01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 2: Mozzarella's up a little bit. But where we end is

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01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 2: just it's been. As I mentioned earlier on in the program,

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01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 2: it's been an extraordinary time turn away from nine the.

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Speaker 1: Make Asking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News togsad B.

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Speaker 2: Got a good questions around housing one from Spain. So

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01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 2: Spain has ordered Airbnb to block more than sixty five

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01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 2: thousand holiday listings. You'll be aware that it was Barcelona.

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01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 2: I think last year they planned to close down all

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01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 2: their ten thousand apartments licensed in the city of short

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01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 2: term rentals by twenty twenty eight. A lot of people

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01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 2: angry cost of housings to march. They march on the street.

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01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 2: But what's the line between if you own your house,

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01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 2: your property rights. Where's the line between what you can

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01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 2: and can't do. It's kind of like the Tonquin case

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01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 2: in Wellington with a bloke yelling at Winston Peter. This

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01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 2: isn't it winning your private winning your public? And also

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01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 2: from the pecuniary list, not the gifts they received, but

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01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: from homes and houses. So you've got on the list

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01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 2: of our politicians, you got people who own homes. You

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01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: got people who own rental properties. You've got people who

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01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 2: own holiday homes, summer and trusts. Some aren't, but then

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01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 2: they this And this is not a conspiracy theory. I'm

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01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 2: just interested in the explanation. Simon Court, who's an act

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Speaker 2: list MP lists four family homes. So I would argue,

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01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 2: you only have one family home unless you have like we,

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Speaker 2: for example, we are lucky enough to have two family

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01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 2: or what I would call family homes. We live half

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01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 2: the week in one house and half the week in

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01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,719
Speaker 2: the other. So I would say we have two family homes.

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Speaker 2: He has four. So is he spending like Monday and

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01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 2: Tuesday and one Wednesday and third another one on Thursday.

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01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 2: How when does a family home become a rental property,

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01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 2: becomes an investment property, becomes a family batch? And what's

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01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: the criteria for family homes? So one of them's joint

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01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 2: the owned, another one's jointly owned, the other two separately

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01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 2: are in P and S court trust. But they're all

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Speaker 2: family homes, Andrew Bailey. I notice he's got a family

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01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 2: home and a farm. That makes sense. He's also got

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Speaker 2: an apartment and another apartment. He's got a commercial property

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01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 2: and then another commercial property loser. But apart from that,

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Speaker 2: see what I did there? You know, I'm just interested

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Speaker 2: in what's a family when's a family home a home?

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01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 2: And when's it not a family home? Five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with the chemist warehouse Mayhem make a sale

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Speaker 1: on now.

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Speaker 2: Good question top text? How big is one's family? That

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01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: probably answers?

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01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: Isn't it way in the world today?

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01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 2: Takes everything you've got? Is this the best one taken up?

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01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,719
Speaker 2: Or is it Hill Street Blues sure health?

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01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 17: Or Hill Street Blues doesn't have any words?

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01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean I'm still a thing, still brings a memory?

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01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 1: Is it l a law sometimes?

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01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 2: Or is it the one news opening thing? George Went

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01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 2: has died. Sad to tell you norm he was seventy six.

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01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 2: Died in his sleep, which, as far as I can

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Speaker 2: work out, is the best way to die.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The one line is as he walked in the.

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Speaker 1: Bard wife, no.

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Speaker 16: Man, no science is seeking a cure for thirst. I

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01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 16: happened to be the guinea pig.

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Speaker 11: For anybody?

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Speaker 15: Can that for your draft?

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01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 1: Mister Peterson a little early?

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01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 7: Isn't nobody for a beer?

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01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 15: No?

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01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:20,839
Speaker 1: For stupid questions?

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01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 7: Have you everybody.

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01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 1: A mister Peterson has a called I'm waiting for.

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01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 16: You, I know, and if she calls, I'm not here?

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01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 7: Given everybody? What's going on?

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01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 1: Mister Pearson flashing sign in my gut that says insert

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01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 1: beer here? Have you anybody?

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01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 16: No beer?

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01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 2: A arm?

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01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 1: Have I gotten that predictable? Good?

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01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:46,640
Speaker 11: Is that just me?

1867
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:47,560
Speaker 10: Or?

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01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 2: Is nothing as funny as what it used to be?

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01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 2: Six consecutive Amy's to be a supporting actor. He died

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01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 2: ironically on the thirty second anniversary of the final episode.

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01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 2: The final episode was my twenty nineteen ninety three? Was

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01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 2: it that long ago?

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01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:04,759
Speaker 11: The phone?

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01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 2: Are we all that old? Memory lane seemed that enticing. Yes,

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01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 2: at dous, we're not all that old?

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01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 11: Because some of us are?

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01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 17: Are we?

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01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 2: I think we were all that old? Don't we really? Back?

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow from specially.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow

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