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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: I'm world heavyweight champion George Foreman, born on this date

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Speaker 2: in nineteen forty nine. He passed away just last year.

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Speaker 2: It's also forty four years to the day since the

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Speaker 2: All Whites beat the People's Republic of China two to

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Speaker 2: for the very first time January ten, nineteen eighty two.

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Speaker 2: Steve Wooden and Winton Rufer the goal scorers. What a time.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine Show producer Andy McDonald. We are here

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Speaker 2: until three talking sports. Speaking of All Whites. Forty seven

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Speaker 2: cap defender Bill Tuiloma this week signed a two and

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Speaker 2: show after one. We'll also review Auckland FC's latest one

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Speaker 2: in the A League of two one over Brisbane last night,

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Speaker 2: Melbourne City this afternoon. So bit a football for you

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Speaker 2: Other metters around today's City Final day at the Women's

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Speaker 2: ASB Tennis Classic. Commentator coach and analyst Sebastian Lavvy previews

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Speaker 2: the day after one, a pretty fresh faced Black capsider

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Speaker 2: in India for a three match ODI series starting tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: Michael Bracewell is skipper of the Siety's on the show

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Speaker 2: after two. Australian correspondent Adam Peacock gives us a good

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Speaker 2: review of the Ashes as well this afternoon. First up today,

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Speaker 2: though over half of our seven thousand sports clubs haven't

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Speaker 2: completed the necessary compliance to remain legitimate under new legislation

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Speaker 2: and times running out, Chair of the New Zealand Amateur

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Speaker 2: Sport Association, Gordon Noble Campbell is standing by the chat

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Speaker 2: to us to explain all of this. If you are

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Speaker 2: involved in administering club sport, this is a must listen

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Speaker 2: for you live sport while we're on there today the

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Speaker 2: soup smash. It's christ Church today Canterbury vw Auckland. The

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Speaker 2: women's game underway at ten past two wal keep eyes

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Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world.

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Speaker 1: Weekends Sport with Jason five Call eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: As we enter twenty twenty six, there are affairs that

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Speaker 2: over half of New Zealand sports clubs haven't taken the

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Speaker 2: required action under new legislation to avoid involuntary dissolution and

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Speaker 2: loss of their incorporated status by the fifth of April

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Speaker 2: this year. Sports clubs, or incorporated community sport organizations as

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Speaker 2: they're legally named, need to register under the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: two Incorporated Societies Act Now Companies off Data shows that

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Speaker 2: less than half of the around seven thousand sports clubs

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand have actually done that. Those who don't

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Speaker 2: may experience involuntary dissolution and the loss of their incorporated status,

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Speaker 2: which exposes members to personal risk and limits a club's

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Speaker 2: ability to raise funds and to enter into contracts. Let's

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Speaker 2: bring in Chair of the New Zealand Amateur Sport Association,

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Speaker 2: Gordon Noble Campbell. Gordon, thanks for joining us. Can we

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Speaker 2: Incorporated Society's Act twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Well, the purpose of the X Party. First Ly, thanks

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Speaker 3: for having me on the show. It's great to chat

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Speaker 3: with you. Is an important one. We need to have

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Speaker 3: legislative protections around the operations of community organizations, and the

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Speaker 3: Incorporated Societies Act is a really important way in which

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Speaker 3: those operational guidelines wrapped around them. The challenge with the

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Speaker 3: Incorporated Societies Act twenty twenty two is that it is

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Speaker 3: having successfully done so, be sure that you've got the

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Speaker 3: as you've pointed out in your introduction, is that less

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Speaker 3: of Incorporated Societies have actually taken necessary steps and reregistered

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Speaker 2: How much of this work then falls to volunteers who

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Speaker 3: Pretty much totally. I would have thought most sports clubs,

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Speaker 3: The reality is all of those jobs, particularly voluntary jobs,

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Speaker 3: other legislation requires them to undertake. So the real risk

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Speaker 3: what the statistics suggest, but also that it may become

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Speaker 2: What will happen to clubs who don't for whatever reason,

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Speaker 2: be it, you know, they don't know what they have

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Speaker 2: they just don't do it. What will happen to those

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Speaker 3: Well, as you mentioned in your introduction, involuntary dissolution is

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Speaker 3: the likely outcome. That is, they'll be struck off the

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Speaker 3: Register of Incorporated Societies and lose their incorporated status. This

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Speaker 3: simply means that they lose an important legal protection for

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Speaker 3: a difficult situation where, for example, they might want to

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Speaker 3: can't do that. Or they might want to put in

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Speaker 3: can't accept your application. So a lot of these things,

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Speaker 3: You know, clubs have to do what's necessary in order

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Speaker 2: Do you expect there to be a period of grice

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Speaker 3: We would love that, Pioney. In fact, we've spoken to

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing. If we lose what we suspect could

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Speaker 3: And whilst I can say the government put in place

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Speaker 3: and that's fair enough, the reality is the message hasn't

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Speaker 3: And if you think for a few minutes about what

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Speaker 3: but also that appropriate resources are made available in communities

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Speaker 3: where they're needed, so that you know, if there's an

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Speaker 3: accounting question, or a tax question, or a legal question,

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Speaker 3: there's some resource that people can go to and get

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Speaker 3: make the right decisions. And in some cases, you know,

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Speaker 3: our experience has been that clubs are not necessarily aware

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Speaker 3: it in front of their members, quite often the members

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Speaker 3: that are proposed that they will need to do under

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Speaker 3: the new legislative framework. So our suggestion is, and we

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Speaker 3: hope that government considers it to be very sensible, because

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Speaker 3: we need at least another twelve months to enable this

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Speaker 3: invaluable part of our social community framework. Without sport, without

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Speaker 3: sport clubs, New Zealand would be a very different place.

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Speaker 2: What is your advice, Dan Gordon to those involved in

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Speaker 3: The first thing that you should do is advise your

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Speaker 3: really is to see what resources you can access from

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Speaker 3: it's going to be pretty tricky to get it all completed.

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Speaker 3: I suspect by April, but you never know. There are

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Speaker 3: some online resources and they are available if you go

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Speaker 3: whilst the resources are good, they don't tell you what

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Speaker 3: show you what needs to be done, but they can't

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Speaker 3: actually make the decisions for you about how you run

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Speaker 3: your club. You know, who classifies as a member, how

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Speaker 3: frequently should you have meetings to how long should the

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Speaker 3: All of these things need to be set it and

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Speaker 3: dealt with in the context of the new Act.

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Speaker 3: The AMASS Support Association is always available and happy to

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Speaker 3: offer some importal some information if that's helpful, so people

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Speaker 3: can contact us as well. But really, I mean start

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Speaker 3: the conversation, I think is that the first step, and

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Speaker 3: hopefully to get you to the finish line by the

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Speaker 2: Great advice, Gordon. Do the same rules apply across the

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Speaker 2: spectrum to big organizations like New Zealand Rugby and very

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Speaker 3: What a really good question, and this is one of

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Speaker 3: the things Pioney that we the Amtsport Association has been

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Speaker 3: concerned about is that the new legislation has taken a

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Speaker 3: sledgehammer to open a walnut. In other words, the legislation

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Speaker 3: very complex operations, including offshore operations, very different to the

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Speaker 3: local tennis club, and yet the legislation is identical. So

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Speaker 3: we suggest that maybe this should be reviewed and that

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Speaker 2: talking about club sports and legislative compliance. I know it's

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Speaker 2: text through here a regional sports organization here. The existing

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Speaker 2: Act was introduced in nineteen o eight. The government needed

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Speaker 2: to bring structure and responsibilities up to date for modern

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Speaker 2: or for the modern world. For example, a registration. We're

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Speaker 2: a register of their members. Thank you very much. Indeed,

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Speaker 2: twelve thirty six. I want to get to club land

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Speaker 2: shortly and discuss this. But your calls and feedback continue

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Speaker 2: to be welcome oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine,

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Speaker 2: teen ninety two for texts back shortly on Weekend Sport.

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Speaker 1: One crutch hold Ngage Weekend Sport with Jason Pain and GJ.

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Speaker 1: Gunn Homes New Zealand's I was Trusted home Builder News

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Speaker 1: Talk to Baby.

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Speaker 2: Coming up twenty to one. Surely says I totally agree

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Speaker 2: with your text to Nigel. This can be done by

447
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Speaker 2: following the guidelines and there has been at least three years. Notice.

448
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Speaker 2: See that's the good news. Idea says that it's not

449
00:26:45,507 --> 00:26:48,027
Speaker 2: too late. It's only too late if you don't start.

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Speaker 2: But by the sounds of a few texts we're getting

451
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Speaker 2: it's not unachievable. Yes, it takes a bit of time

452
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Speaker 2: and a bit of brain power, but most people running

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Speaker 2: clubs i'd imagine would have the second of those, just

454
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Speaker 2: got to find the time to do it. As we

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Speaker 2: continue this discussion, I read a blog this week from

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Speaker 2: Gary Moller, who has been an active member of community

457
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Speaker 2: clubs for more than half a century. Gary, you're right.

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Speaker 2: One of the least talked about risks facing community clubs

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Speaker 2: is the hostile takeover not by a rival team, but

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Speaker 2: by outsiders. With an eye on land buildings, and sometimes

461
00:27:28,227 --> 00:27:32,667
Speaker 2: the quiet prize sitting in plain sight the club's bank account.

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Speaker 2: This all sounds rather sinister. How do hostile takeovers of

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Speaker 2: clubs happen?

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Speaker 6: Let's take a hypothetical example. You've got like a bowling

465
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Speaker 6: green here in Wellington, a bowling club, i should say,

466
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Speaker 6: and it's on some prime land which could be worth

467
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Speaker 6: millions of dollars and millions more if it, say, was

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Speaker 6: developed into a block of apartments, and so how do

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Speaker 6: you acquire that land? Well, it's very well, it was

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Speaker 6: very simple. What to do is you join that club,

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Speaker 6: you get your friends to join, and then when you

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Speaker 6: come around to the annual general meeting, you basically all

473
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Speaker 6: turn up, or what you turn up with your proxy votes,

474
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Speaker 6: and you become the chair, the president, the treasurer and

475
00:28:31,627 --> 00:28:34,747
Speaker 6: so on and so on, and you basically take the

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Speaker 6: club over. It's very easy to do. And then of

477
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Speaker 6: course you go through the process of basically winding it

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Speaker 6: up and sell it off to your mates. That's a

479
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Speaker 6: pretty crude scenario, but it is a realistic one.

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Speaker 2: How common would that sort of thing have been?

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Speaker 6: Well, I have absolutely no idea, I'm sorry to say,

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Speaker 6: I have no idea hypothetical. I have heard rumors. I

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Speaker 6: suspect that this has been going on. It has definitely

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Speaker 6: been a risk factor with the demise of clubs, as

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Speaker 6: club memberships have declined, as various clubs around the country

486
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Speaker 6: have fallen into states of disrepair. It's very sad to

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Speaker 6: be watching the demise of clubs. And this is where

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Speaker 6: the new legislation comes in. It offers far more robust protections.

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Speaker 6: If anybody reads my blog Garymuller dot com, they will

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Speaker 6: be well aware that I am kind of anti establishment

491
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Speaker 6: or I have a disdain of bureaucracy, of people in

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Speaker 6: positions of authority telling me how to run my business,

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Speaker 6: how to live my life, and so on. I am

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Speaker 6: very much a free range creature. But however, this is

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Speaker 6: one bit of legislation which on the face of it,

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Speaker 6: I actually support. I think we need it because we're

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Speaker 6: in a we're in a crisis. Can I just say

498
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Speaker 6: I grew up in Peteru and I belong to the

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Speaker 6: athletics club, the table tennis club, the tennis clubs. There

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Speaker 6: was even an amateur theater school had debating chess, rugby, hockey.

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Speaker 6: They were kind of clubs that was normal clubs gave

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Speaker 6: us real physical connection. Today we call Facebook groups communities,

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Speaker 6: but they don't replace people meeting, arguing, moving and belonging.

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Speaker 6: When clubs disappear, something human goes with them. Now I'll

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Speaker 6: just say I provide a health and rehabilitation service for

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00:31:14,067 --> 00:31:17,827
Speaker 6: people with chronic health issues. Now, I'll tell you what.

507
00:31:19,227 --> 00:31:24,227
Speaker 6: People when they are unwell, they want to be touched.

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Speaker 6: It's the proverbial, you know, mother, giving them a hug

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Speaker 6: and a cuddle. Right, you can't do that online. Okay,

510
00:31:34,347 --> 00:31:40,867
Speaker 6: people need physical connection. We're tribal those sorts of ideas,

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Speaker 6: and as we lose the clubs and societies. And I

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Speaker 6: should add it has argued that New Zealand was the

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Speaker 6: most clubbified and society affied nation on the planet. Every community,

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Speaker 6: no matter how small, had a club of some sort,

515
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Speaker 6: the tennis club, the bowling club, the bridge club, and

516
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Speaker 6: so on. Now when you drive through rural New Zealand,

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Speaker 6: you see those netball courts, in those tennis courts, the club,

518
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Speaker 6: a community hall where the local theater had, or where

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00:32:18,387 --> 00:32:21,267
Speaker 6: the farmers would meet. They're all now in a state

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Speaker 6: of disrepair. The weeds are growing and people are arguing

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Speaker 6: over what do they do with that asset. It's sad.

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Speaker 2: I was sad reading one of the lines you wrote,

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Speaker 2: and it relates to what you just said. Gary. One

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Speaker 2: derelict tennis court after another old bowl and green slowly

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Speaker 2: reverting to weeds. Netball courts are cracked, fenced off, or

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Speaker 2: used only a handful of times a year. Clubs locked

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Speaker 2: or falling apart. Why and how has the role of

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Speaker 2: sports clubs in our community changed so much?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's social media, Facebook, the Internet, the

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Speaker 6: cell phone, and then with COVID the lockdowns. Fear thy

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Speaker 6: neighbor your basement, don't go outdoors because there's some virus

532
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Speaker 6: that's been blown in from a take from an infected penguin.

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Speaker 6: So whatever you do, stay inside in your hermetically sealed environment.

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Speaker 6: This is where my idea of free range comes in

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Speaker 6: the free ranger movement, which you will see I promote

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Speaker 6: on my website. The idea of being a free range

537
00:33:36,547 --> 00:33:46,267
Speaker 6: creature as opposed to the visual idea of the cage chicken. Okay, there, helpless, fearfull,

538
00:33:47,707 --> 00:33:53,867
Speaker 6: weak creature that is unable to fend for itself. New Zealanders,

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00:33:54,747 --> 00:33:59,147
Speaker 6: we are and we should be truly free range creatures.

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Speaker 6: New Zealand should be the best place in the world

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Speaker 6: to live and to raise a family. We should be outdoors, strong, resilient,

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Speaker 6: the number eight fencing wire and Pessa chewing gum. We

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Speaker 6: should be truly outdoors people. And our clubs and societies

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00:34:20,987 --> 00:34:24,907
Speaker 6: were a reflection of that. So what's happened, and it

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Speaker 6: has absolutely accelerated over the last four or five years,

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Speaker 6: is that you just need to go out.

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Speaker 4: Look.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to go out and do some training outdoors

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Speaker 6: by the way, communing with mother nature, by the way,

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Speaker 6: and I will bet you that I'll be there just

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Speaker 6: about the only one. Okay, you were. And in particular,

552
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Speaker 6: what is most disturbing is that, Hey, I'm an old guy.

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Speaker 6: I'm in my seventies and as I run or ride around,

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Speaker 6: when I go down onto the field to practice my

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Speaker 6: CycL a cross cycling skills on the fields, I asked

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Speaker 6: the question, where's all the chillchildren? Where are they? Okay,

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Speaker 6: you just do not see them. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 6: The field down here, I've been in this I've been

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Speaker 6: in the suburb now for forty five years. It's coming

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Speaker 6: on close to fifty actually, but forty five years. And

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Speaker 6: the field used to be busy all the time, so

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Speaker 6: I couldn't go down on there on my bicycle to

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Speaker 6: practice my skills on the safety of grass. Okay, And

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Speaker 6: in winter time it was also impossible because it was

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Speaker 6: a mud bath. Today I can go down there and

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Speaker 6: there'll be probably one guy who will often see. He'll

567
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Speaker 6: be practicing his golf sweep.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 6: I wear a helmet so I feel safe, okay, And

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Speaker 6: I'll ride my bike around and I'll say, how you going, mate,

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Speaker 6: And there might be the occasional older person walking their dog.

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Speaker 6: But gone are all the children playing soccer, the teenagers

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Speaker 6: down there, you know, throwing a frisbee or what have you.

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Speaker 6: The good thing for me is the fields are in

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Speaker 6: such good condition. They are an amazing condition because they're

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Speaker 6: not cut up anymore. But that is tinged with a

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Speaker 6: great sense of sadness because it then begs the question

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Speaker 6: of where are all the young people, what are they doing,

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Speaker 6: what is happening to their health, what is happening to

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Speaker 6: their resilience? And also, hey, he's got to.

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Speaker 2: Look after me, don't people, Gary, don't people? And look,

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Speaker 2: I'm just everything you say is resonating with me. There

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Speaker 2: are fewer and fewer people, particularly young people, engaging in

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Speaker 2: physical activity. The stats would tell you that, but don't people,

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Speaker 2: particularly adults and kids.

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Speaker 7: Don't.

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Speaker 2: We still crave and need personal connection, not connection through

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Speaker 2: a screen. And aren't clubs a great way of doing that? Still?

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Speaker 6: Yes, However, I think that the fact is what is

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Speaker 6: going on, the demise of the physical club, the bricks

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00:37:18,067 --> 00:37:24,187
Speaker 6: and mortar club. Unfortunately, sadly, it's a trend that is,

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00:37:24,427 --> 00:37:30,267
Speaker 6: if anything, accelerating. I don't see any easy solutions. This

593
00:37:33,507 --> 00:37:38,387
Speaker 6: change to the legislation is almost a rescue mission to

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Speaker 6: at least prevent those assets from falling into the wrong hands,

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Speaker 6: but remaining in some way, somehow I don't know how,

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Speaker 6: of remaining some kind of community asset. But it is

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Speaker 6: a real headache. Look, I really want to promote the

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Speaker 6: whole idea. We need to absolutely champion that we need

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Speaker 6: to be a true free range society. As I said,

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Speaker 6: New Zealand, of any place on the planet, should be

601
00:38:13,947 --> 00:38:17,067
Speaker 6: the best place to live and raise a family. And

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Speaker 6: that's because of our wonderful, great outdoors, our ability to

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Speaker 6: grow healthy food and so on, to nourish, to exercise.

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Speaker 6: You know, we're not crammed into some high rise congested

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Speaker 6: supercity of some sort. All of us should be able

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Speaker 6: to put on a pair of shoes and go out

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Speaker 6: and do many for exercise and having physical contact with

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Speaker 6: other human beings in a way that is energizing and

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Speaker 6: it gives a sense of belonging and so on, and

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Speaker 6: sadly it's all TikTok is, Facebook, it's x you know,

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Speaker 6: all of those kind of online groups. That's where we're going.

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Speaker 6: But to be honest, it is such a poor second best.

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Speaker 6: Can I finish on a positive note?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 6: Be strong, be independent, question everything, Eat good food, exercise daily,

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Speaker 6: commune with mother nature, which means get outdoors and just

617
00:39:31,107 --> 00:39:35,267
Speaker 6: get some fresh air and sunshine, listen to the birds. Okay,

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Speaker 6: just do that. Be free range.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's how we counter.

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Speaker 2: It, all right, Gary, got to leave it there. Thanks

622
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Speaker 2: for your insight. You've taken us into places I didn't expect,

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Speaker 2: but appreciate your insight and your input very much. Gary

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Speaker 2: Mola website, Garymolla dot com. If you want to find

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Speaker 2: out more, Seven to one New Stalks b.

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Speaker 1: The schoon from the track field and the court on

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Speaker 1: your home of thought. Weekends for it with Jason Vine US.

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Speaker 2: Talks four one ten. Sorry, Piney, your current guest is

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Speaker 2: off the mark. Social media isn't to blame for club's demise.

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Speaker 2: The economy is. Social media has only grown the connection

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Speaker 2: to our club. What is destroying clubs is the ongoing

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Speaker 2: cost demands. The cost of play never stops increasing, and

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Speaker 2: the demands on volunteers within clubs. This legislation change just

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Speaker 2: another demand on volunteers never ends. Everybody now wants money

635
00:40:26,747 --> 00:40:28,427
Speaker 2: to help because time is money in the cost of

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00:40:28,467 --> 00:40:30,827
Speaker 2: living so high. This isn't the sixty seventies anymore. The

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00:40:30,827 --> 00:40:33,107
Speaker 2: world has changed. Thanks so much for your text. I

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Speaker 2: really appreciate it, and the first one of the year

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Speaker 2: in our regular series of texts that are sent to

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Speaker 2: us not meant for us. Are you coming home for

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Speaker 2: lunch or can I start asks this text? I think

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Speaker 2: you should go ahead. I think you should go ahead.

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Speaker 2: News at one and then we'll talk some tennis. Sure

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Speaker 2: he was at every single day of the Ashes, traveling

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Speaker 2: around watching it all unfold, So we're going to wrap

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Speaker 2: that with him. I want to find out who he

647
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Speaker 2: thinks enhance their reputation, particularly from an England point of view.

648
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Speaker 2: Will Travis Head continue to open the batty and is

649
00:41:05,787 --> 00:41:09,907
Speaker 2: there a bit of an issue around Australia's Test batting.

650
00:41:09,947 --> 00:41:12,827
Speaker 2: There were two or three guys who didn't really take

651
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Speaker 2: their opportunities during the ashes. So Adam Peacock on the

652
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Speaker 2: Cricket this Hour. Also here from Wellington Phoenix's latest acquisition,

653
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Speaker 2: Bill Tuiloma. He signed this week on a two and

654
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Speaker 2: a half year deal the forty seven cap Al Whites Defender.

655
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Speaker 2: This is a great piece of business for Wellington Phoenix.

656
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Speaker 2: He's on the show. We'll talk some tennis. Very very shortly.

657
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Speaker 2: With the ASP Classic into its semi final stage, got

658
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Speaker 2: a text back before one o'clock. Read out the text

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Speaker 2: are you coming home? Valunche or can I start? Obviously

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Speaker 2: not meant for us. I don't think it was. Got

661
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Speaker 2: another one from the same number. Thanks mate. I've started

662
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Speaker 2: because I was getting hungry. So that's a great relief.

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Speaker 2: Well done. It's one of our favorite segments on the show.

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Speaker 2: Texts sent to us not meant for us. Hopefully many

665
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Speaker 2: more to come Across twenty twenty six. Top seed Elena

666
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Speaker 2: Switzelina has ground her way into the semifinals at the

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Speaker 2: ASB Tennis Classic.

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Speaker 1: Oh what a.

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Speaker 2: Response that is.

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Speaker 5: Delenaxs dick the heart of it.

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Speaker 2: The heart of it champion.

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Speaker 5: Alena Spittalena texs dick in this quarterfinal, and she finds

673
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Speaker 5: the way, She finds the will and the determination to

674
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Speaker 5: book her place in the semifinals of the ASB Classic

675
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Speaker 5: once more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the world number thirteen, outlasting British world number sixty

677
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Speaker 2: eight son Cartel six four sixty seven seven six after

678
00:42:59,307 --> 00:43:01,547
Speaker 2: more than two and a half hours in their quarterfinal

679
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Speaker 2: in Auckland's Fittelina will face third seed, rising American star

680
00:43:05,827 --> 00:43:10,067
Speaker 2: Eva Jovich in tonight's second semi final. The first semi

681
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Speaker 2: scheduled for five thirty, will feature fourth seeded Philippines player

682
00:43:14,107 --> 00:43:19,827
Speaker 2: Alexandra Iala up against Chinese seventh seed one Hinu Let's

683
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Speaker 2: bring in one of Sky Sports tennis analysts and commentators

684
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Speaker 2: this week for the New Zealand Davis Cup. Player top

685
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Speaker 2: thirty IF junior in the world and founder and director

686
00:43:29,787 --> 00:43:33,867
Speaker 2: of the Lavy Tennis Academy, Sebastian Lavy said, thanks for

687
00:43:34,067 --> 00:43:37,227
Speaker 2: taking the time to join us. Elena's Fitteleina. She was

688
00:43:37,267 --> 00:43:39,427
Speaker 2: made to work for it last night. How close did

689
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Speaker 2: Sony Cartel come to causing an upset of this one.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, look that was that was a great match and

691
00:43:46,307 --> 00:43:48,667
Speaker 8: that went that went the distance, and I wouldn't put

692
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Speaker 8: it past on a hotel to really be a sort

693
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Speaker 8: of the top twenty player by the end of the year,

694
00:43:52,227 --> 00:43:55,107
Speaker 8: she's playing at a super high level. I actually think

695
00:43:55,147 --> 00:43:57,027
Speaker 8: she'd dealt with the occasion pretty well. She did have

696
00:43:57,067 --> 00:44:00,667
Speaker 8: a couple of opportunities, but overall, Zittelena just came out

697
00:44:00,707 --> 00:44:02,587
Speaker 8: and plaid very touch towards the end of it. So,

698
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Speaker 8: I mean, Stelena, She's not number thirteen in the world

699
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Speaker 8: for nothing, the competitor and it was great to Searah

700
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Speaker 8: gutside out yesterday.

701
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Speaker 2: What are her particular strengths as Fittelina as a tennis player?

702
00:44:12,867 --> 00:44:14,707
Speaker 2: What is she particularly good at?

703
00:44:16,147 --> 00:44:17,747
Speaker 8: I mean, look, I think the first thing she does

704
00:44:17,787 --> 00:44:20,147
Speaker 8: really well is she covers the court very well laterally,

705
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Speaker 8: so wheneverytime she's getting pushed side to side, she's able

706
00:44:23,107 --> 00:44:25,187
Speaker 8: to hold her baseline and really stay in the rally.

707
00:44:25,787 --> 00:44:27,787
Speaker 8: She does also generate a lot of power and she's

708
00:44:27,787 --> 00:44:30,747
Speaker 8: aggressive if the ball sets up, but she basically continues

709
00:44:30,787 --> 00:44:32,947
Speaker 8: to put a lot of pressure on her opponents just

710
00:44:32,987 --> 00:44:35,227
Speaker 8: because she's always at the ball. She's always hitting the

711
00:44:35,227 --> 00:44:36,907
Speaker 8: ball through the court. There's not a lot of time

712
00:44:36,947 --> 00:44:39,747
Speaker 8: for them to get settled. And look, she's a competitor

713
00:44:39,747 --> 00:44:40,907
Speaker 8: and at the end of the day, if you can

714
00:44:40,947 --> 00:44:43,547
Speaker 8: play ninety five percent of the points in a match

715
00:44:43,627 --> 00:44:46,427
Speaker 8: with one hundred percent intensity, you're probably going to get

716
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Speaker 8: through with the win.

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Speaker 2: The psychology of Tennisse said always interests me. When you've

718
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Speaker 2: got a player like Linas Fittelina, you know, top fifteen

719
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Speaker 2: in the world, up it's to player who was ranked

720
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Speaker 2: far lower. The psychology of the lower ranked player, you know,

721
00:44:59,347 --> 00:45:02,387
Speaker 2: is it more often that they feel daunted or are

722
00:45:02,387 --> 00:45:05,147
Speaker 2: they conversely more likely to think, hey, there's a real

723
00:45:05,227 --> 00:45:07,427
Speaker 2: upset in the offing here, this could be my day

724
00:45:07,467 --> 00:45:08,747
Speaker 2: to make a name for myself.

725
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

726
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Speaker 8: Look, I think it depends a little bit on the

727
00:45:11,947 --> 00:45:14,067
Speaker 8: players and also their game. Soyles I think someone like

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Speaker 8: Sono Cartel, she is continuing to rise. I mean, she's

729
00:45:18,547 --> 00:45:20,507
Speaker 8: not super young, but she's still twenty four and she's

730
00:45:20,547 --> 00:45:24,227
Speaker 8: definitely starting to peak in her career now. So someone

731
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Speaker 8: like son I think she's the type of player that

732
00:45:26,507 --> 00:45:28,707
Speaker 8: did back herself, did feel like she had the belief

733
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Speaker 8: but maybe didn't quite execute on a couple of shots

734
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Speaker 8: towards the end, but generally speaking, it's like you can

735
00:45:34,467 --> 00:45:36,347
Speaker 8: see these players that end up being top five in

736
00:45:36,387 --> 00:45:38,867
Speaker 8: the world, they just had the innate self belief. Someone

737
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Speaker 8: like Alexeyala obviously she's one of the top seeds here,

738
00:45:42,427 --> 00:45:44,587
Speaker 8: but still she's she's definitely on the rise, and whenever

739
00:45:44,587 --> 00:45:46,587
Speaker 8: she steps on the court, you can see she's got

740
00:45:46,627 --> 00:45:49,107
Speaker 8: that belief that she can beat anybody. So I think

741
00:45:49,107 --> 00:45:51,867
Speaker 8: it's pretty personal. But at the same time, you know,

742
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Speaker 8: especially first time in the year, we're we're always ready

743
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Speaker 8: for some upsets.

744
00:45:55,747 --> 00:45:59,027
Speaker 2: All right. So Spitzalina will face Eva Jovich the third

745
00:45:59,107 --> 00:46:02,067
Speaker 2: seat tonight. How have you assisted Jovich this week? And

746
00:46:02,147 --> 00:46:04,627
Speaker 2: could she beat Spittelina tonight?

747
00:46:07,227 --> 00:46:09,947
Speaker 8: Yes, I think she could. I think probably for Vitelena

748
00:46:10,027 --> 00:46:12,067
Speaker 8: that match would have taken a little bit out of

749
00:46:12,067 --> 00:46:14,947
Speaker 8: her physically as well, so I'm not quite sure if

750
00:46:14,947 --> 00:46:16,507
Speaker 8: she's going to pull up at one hundred percent or

751
00:46:16,547 --> 00:46:18,187
Speaker 8: maybe take a little bit of time to get going.

752
00:46:18,627 --> 00:46:20,827
Speaker 8: I think for Yovich, she's going to know it's a

753
00:46:20,827 --> 00:46:24,427
Speaker 8: big opportunity and potentially well a big scalp that she

754
00:46:24,467 --> 00:46:27,187
Speaker 8: can pull off today. At the same time, I feel

755
00:46:27,187 --> 00:46:30,307
Speaker 8: like Yovich's game is still developing. She does have an

756
00:46:30,347 --> 00:46:33,027
Speaker 8: extremely good back end, She's got great court coverage, likes

757
00:46:33,027 --> 00:46:34,947
Speaker 8: to come to the net. I think she has a

758
00:46:35,067 --> 00:46:39,107
Speaker 8: little bit of potentially. I wouldn't call it a weakness,

759
00:46:39,107 --> 00:46:42,587
Speaker 8: but maybe an opening for Vitcelena to exploit on her forehead,

760
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Speaker 8: just putting her under pressure, not allowing her to step

761
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Speaker 8: in too much. So look, I would give Yovich a

762
00:46:48,987 --> 00:46:51,347
Speaker 8: good chance. I would say Vitelena is the favorite going

763
00:46:51,427 --> 00:46:53,627
Speaker 8: into this, but it will also depend on physically if

764
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Speaker 8: she's ready to back it up after that late one

765
00:46:55,787 --> 00:46:57,027
Speaker 8: last night, the.

766
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Speaker 2: First semi final, then Alexandra Iyala up against one Shanu.

767
00:47:01,067 --> 00:47:02,827
Speaker 2: How do these two match up against one another?

768
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Speaker 8: Look, I think Iyala's so far she's been sort of

769
00:47:07,987 --> 00:47:10,067
Speaker 8: taking the racket out of each player's hands. She's been

770
00:47:10,147 --> 00:47:13,267
Speaker 8: super aggressive return of serve. She's in stepping in clobbering it.

771
00:47:13,627 --> 00:47:15,987
Speaker 8: I thought yesterday against mad de Linette, who does have

772
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Speaker 8: a good serve, she might struggle a little bit more

773
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Speaker 8: on return to take that initiative. But she looked fantastic

774
00:47:21,107 --> 00:47:25,867
Speaker 8: out there. She looks very comfortable and I haven't really

775
00:47:25,867 --> 00:47:29,787
Speaker 8: seen her be pushed too much in terms of emotionally,

776
00:47:29,867 --> 00:47:31,467
Speaker 8: you know, she's been pushed in the game, she's been

777
00:47:31,467 --> 00:47:33,787
Speaker 8: pushed around, but emotionally she just looks so steady. So

778
00:47:34,267 --> 00:47:35,987
Speaker 8: I would say she's got a very good chance that

779
00:47:36,107 --> 00:47:38,787
Speaker 8: going deep. And the crowd has been amazing for her,

780
00:47:38,827 --> 00:47:41,707
Speaker 8: so many Filipino fans have showed up. Everyone's really taking

781
00:47:41,707 --> 00:47:45,987
Speaker 8: a love for her. So look, on paper, it's pretty close.

782
00:47:46,347 --> 00:47:49,227
Speaker 8: I would have a personal preference to see Yellow go deep,

783
00:47:49,307 --> 00:47:50,787
Speaker 8: just because I think she's one that we're going to

784
00:47:50,787 --> 00:47:53,467
Speaker 8: see in the future. And if her potential first title

785
00:47:53,467 --> 00:47:54,907
Speaker 8: could be an open I think that would be very

786
00:47:54,907 --> 00:47:55,547
Speaker 8: special for her.

787
00:47:55,987 --> 00:47:57,787
Speaker 2: So if she makes the fine, I mean, it's a

788
00:47:57,827 --> 00:48:00,707
Speaker 2: silly question, it's one v one, but if she makes

789
00:48:00,707 --> 00:48:03,027
Speaker 2: the fine, if she could beat whoever comes through the

790
00:48:03,067 --> 00:48:04,987
Speaker 2: other one, because I guess it feels as though the

791
00:48:05,027 --> 00:48:08,147
Speaker 2: winner of the second seem would still be favorite to

792
00:48:08,187 --> 00:48:08,867
Speaker 2: win the final.

793
00:48:11,587 --> 00:48:12,227
Speaker 9: Look, I.

794
00:48:13,707 --> 00:48:16,987
Speaker 8: Very difficult question, just based on the level that I've

795
00:48:16,987 --> 00:48:19,867
Speaker 8: seen currently, Iyala has been the player that has been

796
00:48:19,907 --> 00:48:22,307
Speaker 8: striking the bull the best. She hasn't yet been pushed

797
00:48:22,347 --> 00:48:25,387
Speaker 8: like Vitellina was last night against Cartel, so it's a

798
00:48:25,387 --> 00:48:27,707
Speaker 8: little bit difficult to say that first round against Vickett

799
00:48:27,787 --> 00:48:32,627
Speaker 8: was incredible, a great atmosphere. But I mean, look, I

800
00:48:32,787 --> 00:48:34,947
Speaker 8: truly think that Eelo is going to be a top

801
00:48:34,947 --> 00:48:37,587
Speaker 8: ten player very soon, so she can definitely beat anyone

802
00:48:37,587 --> 00:48:39,587
Speaker 8: out there. She made the semi final last year of

803
00:48:39,627 --> 00:48:43,227
Speaker 8: the Master Series in Miami being Madison Keys, I guess Rontek,

804
00:48:43,347 --> 00:48:45,787
Speaker 8: so she knows how to beat these players. I wouldn't

805
00:48:45,827 --> 00:48:48,307
Speaker 8: put it past her to get to the finaline win it.

806
00:48:48,387 --> 00:48:50,627
Speaker 8: But at this stage, you know, when there's only four left,

807
00:48:51,107 --> 00:48:54,227
Speaker 8: it's really a twenty five percent went for everyone.

808
00:48:54,227 --> 00:48:56,067
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. Well, we've got the first, the third, and

809
00:48:56,107 --> 00:48:59,067
Speaker 2: the fourth seeds in the semi but second seed Emm Navarro.

810
00:48:59,707 --> 00:49:01,507
Speaker 2: We lost her on the very first day, didn't We

811
00:49:01,587 --> 00:49:04,427
Speaker 2: beaten in three sets by British player Francesca Jones. She

812
00:49:04,467 --> 00:49:06,227
Speaker 2: went on to reach the quarters, where she was forced

813
00:49:06,227 --> 00:49:11,947
Speaker 2: to retire unfortunately. How big a shock was Navarro's early exit, Look, I.

814
00:49:11,907 --> 00:49:14,867
Speaker 8: Think on paper probably pretty big in terms of, you know,

815
00:49:14,867 --> 00:49:17,907
Speaker 8: obviously number two seed, you would expect her to win

816
00:49:17,907 --> 00:49:20,747
Speaker 8: a few rounds. Having said that, on the day, Francisca

817
00:49:20,827 --> 00:49:23,747
Speaker 8: Jones played a really really solid match. It went to

818
00:49:23,787 --> 00:49:25,907
Speaker 8: three sets, it was close, and Ivar almost managed to

819
00:49:25,907 --> 00:49:28,267
Speaker 8: swing it back in her favor, so I think it's

820
00:49:28,347 --> 00:49:30,667
Speaker 8: just you know, again first Mornman of the Year, Francisca

821
00:49:30,747 --> 00:49:32,907
Speaker 8: Jones a little bit ready, a bit more ready when

822
00:49:32,947 --> 00:49:35,387
Speaker 8: it came to that sort of competitive edge towards the

823
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Speaker 8: end of the sets. Obviously she played another great match

824
00:49:39,027 --> 00:49:41,347
Speaker 8: and she fought back from six one three lovedown in

825
00:49:41,387 --> 00:49:44,907
Speaker 8: the next match, so she's a true competitor. But yeah, look,

826
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Speaker 8: I was saying on paper, a little bit of shame

827
00:49:46,827 --> 00:49:49,347
Speaker 8: to lose our number two seeds so early, but we've

828
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Speaker 8: seen an incredible level of penis and anyone who's been

829
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Speaker 8: in the stadium or anyone who's been watching it on

830
00:49:54,187 --> 00:49:57,347
Speaker 8: Stark Sport, I'm sure very happy without being seeing Yeah.

831
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Speaker 2: I was going to ask that, I said, what have

832
00:49:58,867 --> 00:50:01,147
Speaker 2: you made of the overall standard? You know, obviously you

833
00:50:01,187 --> 00:50:03,387
Speaker 2: alluded to it there, but it's been it's been of

834
00:50:03,387 --> 00:50:05,347
Speaker 2: a high standard, even even right at the start of

835
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Speaker 2: the calendar year.

836
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Speaker 8: Yes, yes, definitely. I mean, look, we haven't had a

837
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Speaker 8: huge name let's say, maybe like a co Co Golf

838
00:50:13,427 --> 00:50:15,187
Speaker 8: or Osaka that we've had in a few in the

839
00:50:15,227 --> 00:50:17,627
Speaker 8: last few years, so that's kind of been a bit

840
00:50:17,667 --> 00:50:20,827
Speaker 8: of the you know, the main, a bit of the

841
00:50:20,827 --> 00:50:23,667
Speaker 8: main event which we maybe haven't had. We had Venice Williams,

842
00:50:23,827 --> 00:50:25,707
Speaker 8: but she's not quite playing at the level she used

843
00:50:25,707 --> 00:50:27,867
Speaker 8: to be. But we have seen all these young players,

844
00:50:27,907 --> 00:50:31,187
Speaker 8: even someone like Costulas from Belgium who qualified through and

845
00:50:31,187 --> 00:50:33,947
Speaker 8: made the quarter. She's only twenty years old. And I

846
00:50:33,987 --> 00:50:35,867
Speaker 8: really think that if these if we have the same

847
00:50:35,947 --> 00:50:37,947
Speaker 8: draw in a few years, we'll probably have about three

848
00:50:38,067 --> 00:50:40,067
Speaker 8: or four top twenty players. So I think it's just

849
00:50:40,107 --> 00:50:41,707
Speaker 8: you know, a bit of a changing of the guard

850
00:50:41,747 --> 00:50:44,507
Speaker 8: at the moment in men's and women's tennis. But it's

851
00:50:44,547 --> 00:50:46,627
Speaker 8: really exciting to see all these young these young girls

852
00:50:46,667 --> 00:50:49,387
Speaker 8: pick Auckland as the place to start. And it's definitely

853
00:50:49,427 --> 00:50:51,827
Speaker 8: been definitely been a great environment both on and off

854
00:50:51,827 --> 00:50:53,747
Speaker 8: the court here down at Sounding Street.

855
00:50:53,987 --> 00:50:55,747
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll can ask about off the court because it

856
00:50:55,827 --> 00:50:57,867
Speaker 2: just looks amazing. I've seen you know, obviously there's there's

857
00:50:57,907 --> 00:51:00,347
Speaker 2: television footage, but a lot of social media as well,

858
00:51:00,387 --> 00:51:02,947
Speaker 2: and I've seen you in a couple of shots. Did

859
00:51:02,987 --> 00:51:04,907
Speaker 2: I see actually that there was one occasion we were

860
00:51:04,987 --> 00:51:07,587
Speaker 2: do on TV but I didn't get through the throngs.

861
00:51:07,587 --> 00:51:09,667
Speaker 2: You almost didn't make it.

862
00:51:10,107 --> 00:51:12,187
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was at the turn of it from the

863
00:51:12,267 --> 00:51:14,547
Speaker 8: day to the night session and I was up in

864
00:51:14,587 --> 00:51:16,387
Speaker 8: the commentary Bouson had to get down to the serve

865
00:51:16,427 --> 00:51:18,347
Speaker 8: where they have you know, all the food and drinks

866
00:51:18,347 --> 00:51:20,547
Speaker 8: and a bit of a party zone, and it took me.

867
00:51:20,587 --> 00:51:22,387
Speaker 8: I mean it's about sixty meters away and it took

868
00:51:22,387 --> 00:51:25,867
Speaker 8: me fifteen minutes to get down. It was just absolutely humming.

869
00:51:26,067 --> 00:51:28,987
Speaker 8: I didn't know if I should play the card. Excuse me,

870
00:51:29,067 --> 00:51:30,507
Speaker 8: I've got to be on TV and I've felt a

871
00:51:30,507 --> 00:51:33,427
Speaker 8: bit guilty for that one, so just sort of weighed

872
00:51:33,427 --> 00:51:36,467
Speaker 8: my way through. But it was looks it's been so

873
00:51:36,587 --> 00:51:38,827
Speaker 8: good and obviously the weather this year has been fantastic.

874
00:51:38,867 --> 00:51:41,787
Speaker 8: We had maybe three ten minute showers so far, but

875
00:51:41,827 --> 00:51:44,627
Speaker 8: otherwise it's been hot out there. It's been a little

876
00:51:44,627 --> 00:51:47,507
Speaker 8: bit wendy on court, but nothing like, you know, nothing

877
00:51:47,587 --> 00:51:49,867
Speaker 8: like the big windstorms we've had in the past there.

878
00:51:49,907 --> 00:51:52,507
Speaker 8: So I think the players are loving it. And you know,

879
00:51:52,787 --> 00:51:54,547
Speaker 8: if you are in Auckland, even if you can't get

880
00:51:54,547 --> 00:51:57,187
Speaker 8: a ticket for the main stat and come down watch

881
00:51:57,267 --> 00:51:59,827
Speaker 8: the qualities today. Men's poorly are starting. You can watch

882
00:51:59,867 --> 00:52:01,387
Speaker 8: the big screen, you can grab a drink. All the

883
00:52:01,387 --> 00:52:03,867
Speaker 8: players come up for signing sessions as well, So it's

884
00:52:03,867 --> 00:52:06,667
Speaker 8: a real vibe. And obviously I'm biased, but I do

885
00:52:06,667 --> 00:52:08,387
Speaker 8: think it's the best sporting event in the country all

886
00:52:08,467 --> 00:52:08,867
Speaker 8: year around.

887
00:52:09,307 --> 00:52:11,507
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crack and look, but I think you should

888
00:52:11,507 --> 00:52:14,027
Speaker 2: totally use that. I need to get on TV card.

889
00:52:14,347 --> 00:52:17,227
Speaker 2: I think that's one that you can quite confidently play.

890
00:52:17,587 --> 00:52:20,027
Speaker 2: I'm just before let you go. How much are you

891
00:52:20,027 --> 00:52:22,427
Speaker 2: looking forward to the meansturnament as you say, qualifying under way?

892
00:52:22,467 --> 00:52:24,867
Speaker 2: I think the draw is actually going on pretty much

893
00:52:24,907 --> 00:52:26,907
Speaker 2: as we speak, so we'll have that draw shortly. How

894
00:52:26,987 --> 00:52:28,587
Speaker 2: much you're looking forward to the weak ahead and the

895
00:52:28,587 --> 00:52:29,587
Speaker 2: men having the court?

896
00:52:31,107 --> 00:52:34,907
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, look, I love it. It's always it's

897
00:52:35,027 --> 00:52:38,667
Speaker 8: a real curious turnover because obviously men's tennis and women's

898
00:52:38,667 --> 00:52:41,467
Speaker 8: tennis is quite different. Men generally have a little bit

899
00:52:41,507 --> 00:52:44,227
Speaker 8: more physicality, the points are slightly longer, it's a little

900
00:52:44,227 --> 00:52:46,107
Speaker 8: bit more based around the serf, so you kind of

901
00:52:46,147 --> 00:52:49,947
Speaker 8: know if there's a male ser male player serving it

902
00:52:50,027 --> 00:52:52,627
Speaker 8: for free, they're probably going to win that set, whereas

903
00:52:52,627 --> 00:52:54,427
Speaker 8: in the women's game it's a little bit more on edge.

904
00:52:55,187 --> 00:52:57,627
Speaker 8: It's a slightly more emotional type of game where the

905
00:52:57,667 --> 00:53:00,147
Speaker 8: emotion does play a bigger part so it's a real

906
00:53:00,307 --> 00:53:03,267
Speaker 8: interesting one to see the switch over. You know, obviously

907
00:53:03,667 --> 00:53:05,467
Speaker 8: the men that are coming here, we've got goal more

908
00:53:05,507 --> 00:53:08,107
Speaker 8: feats than Shelter and so Drinka. We've got some amazing

909
00:53:08,147 --> 00:53:10,987
Speaker 8: players that are here. I'm probably forgetting about five as well.

910
00:53:10,987 --> 00:53:12,787
Speaker 8: We living got Cabillo who won a couple of years

911
00:53:12,827 --> 00:53:15,227
Speaker 8: ago playing and qualifying today. That's how that's how high

912
00:53:15,267 --> 00:53:17,747
Speaker 8: the level is, So it'll be it'll be really cool.

913
00:53:18,427 --> 00:53:21,027
Speaker 8: I hope we get the same weather and I hope

914
00:53:21,027 --> 00:53:23,787
Speaker 8: the SAMs keep coming because it's been an incredible first week.

915
00:53:24,387 --> 00:53:27,187
Speaker 2: Absolutely loving your coverage on Sky Sebastian, thanks so much

916
00:53:27,187 --> 00:53:29,987
Speaker 2: for joining us today too. Made and enjoy the week ahead.

917
00:53:29,987 --> 00:53:31,667
Speaker 2: And maybe we need to get you a couple of

918
00:53:31,667 --> 00:53:33,867
Speaker 2: those bodyguards who sort of walk either side of you,

919
00:53:33,947 --> 00:53:35,747
Speaker 2: just to make sure that you can get to where

920
00:53:35,747 --> 00:53:36,267
Speaker 2: you need to be.

921
00:53:37,067 --> 00:53:38,987
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that was the one. If I'm not

922
00:53:39,067 --> 00:53:40,867
Speaker 8: quite at that level yet, I'll just enjoy it. I'll

923
00:53:40,947 --> 00:53:42,947
Speaker 8: enjoy being a part of a being a part of

924
00:53:42,947 --> 00:53:43,547
Speaker 8: the sand base.

925
00:53:44,387 --> 00:53:47,267
Speaker 2: Good on yourself, all the best mates, Sebastian Levy, there

926
00:53:47,347 --> 00:53:49,947
Speaker 2: are Yeah, I mean the coverage is terrific on Sky

927
00:53:50,307 --> 00:53:55,067
Speaker 2: with the likes of Sebastian, Jade Lewis, Jeff mctage, Ricky Swinell.

928
00:53:55,107 --> 00:53:57,627
Speaker 2: They're doing a great job. Kim Ritchie down on the

929
00:53:57,707 --> 00:54:00,547
Speaker 2: on the court doing the fronting storm purpose. These are

930
00:54:00,587 --> 00:54:04,067
Speaker 2: all high quality broadcasters and the tennis is there's a

931
00:54:04,107 --> 00:54:08,067
Speaker 2: high quality production. We'll just that stan Vavrinka will not

932
00:54:08,147 --> 00:54:13,787
Speaker 2: be playing in the ASB Classic because, as I understand it,

933
00:54:13,867 --> 00:54:18,067
Speaker 2: of his progress in the United Cup which is going

934
00:54:18,067 --> 00:54:21,507
Speaker 2: on at the moment. This threw from Michael Burgess from

935
00:54:21,587 --> 00:54:24,707
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Herald, stan Vavrinka out of the ASB

936
00:54:24,787 --> 00:54:26,907
Speaker 2: Classic due to progress in the United Cup. It happens

937
00:54:26,907 --> 00:54:29,307
Speaker 2: in tennis, but a real shame was looking forward to

938
00:54:29,347 --> 00:54:33,467
Speaker 2: see Vavrinka and probably the best backhand on the ATP

939
00:54:33,667 --> 00:54:37,467
Speaker 2: Tour on center court. So no stan Vavrinka for the

940
00:54:37,507 --> 00:54:39,707
Speaker 2: ASB Men's Classic, but that doesn't mean it's still not

941
00:54:39,747 --> 00:54:42,827
Speaker 2: going to be an amazing tournament. The drawer will scheduled

942
00:54:42,867 --> 00:54:44,427
Speaker 2: for today at one o'clock, so we should have that

943
00:54:44,507 --> 00:54:47,827
Speaker 2: draw for you in our Sports news at two. But

944
00:54:47,907 --> 00:54:50,347
Speaker 2: as far as the semi finals are concerned, in the

945
00:54:50,347 --> 00:54:54,227
Speaker 2: women first semi final today, five point thirty fourth seeded

946
00:54:54,347 --> 00:54:58,147
Speaker 2: Philippines player Alexandra Iala and listening to said there sounds

947
00:54:58,147 --> 00:55:00,307
Speaker 2: like she's got a big future up against Chinese seventh

948
00:55:00,347 --> 00:55:04,067
Speaker 2: seed Juan Jinu. And then probably the more eye catching

949
00:55:04,067 --> 00:55:07,027
Speaker 2: of the two, semis Elenas Fittil of the top seed

950
00:55:07,107 --> 00:55:10,067
Speaker 2: up against a third seed, rising American star Eva Yovich.

951
00:55:10,347 --> 00:55:12,707
Speaker 2: That one will follow, So first one at five thirty,

952
00:55:12,787 --> 00:55:16,667
Speaker 2: the second one to follow one twenty two here at

953
00:55:16,667 --> 00:55:18,467
Speaker 2: News Talks B. We'll take a great come back and

954
00:55:18,587 --> 00:55:21,467
Speaker 2: flick our attention across the football here from Bill Tilama,

955
00:55:21,587 --> 00:55:24,587
Speaker 2: forty seven cap all white and now are Wellington Phoenix player.

956
00:55:24,587 --> 00:55:25,547
Speaker 2: He's on the show after this.

957
00:55:27,107 --> 00:55:29,987
Speaker 1: You be the TMO. Have your say on eight hundred

958
00:55:29,987 --> 00:55:34,787
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Paine and GJ. Guvnerholmes,

959
00:55:34,987 --> 00:55:37,747
Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder, News talgs.

960
00:55:37,587 --> 00:55:41,027
Speaker 2: EDB, News Talks EDB and Weekend Sport. Just before we

961
00:55:41,067 --> 00:55:43,027
Speaker 2: move on to football Chester, said Pinety. Just check those

962
00:55:43,067 --> 00:55:45,507
Speaker 2: semi final times. My TV says the first one starts

963
00:55:45,547 --> 00:55:49,027
Speaker 2: at two forty five. I've just had a very quick

964
00:55:49,027 --> 00:55:53,867
Speaker 2: look Chester and Center Court not before five thirty pm.

965
00:55:54,387 --> 00:55:59,747
Speaker 2: Alexandra Iyala against Juan Jinu, followed by Elena's Fittelena against

966
00:55:59,787 --> 00:56:02,707
Speaker 2: Eva Jovich. So yeah, I'm not sure what is on

967
00:56:02,787 --> 00:56:05,347
Speaker 2: your TV. That's a bit odd that they don't match up,

968
00:56:05,347 --> 00:56:09,027
Speaker 2: but on the official ASB Classic website and just checking

969
00:56:09,107 --> 00:56:12,267
Speaker 2: him with our team down there, definitely five to thirty

970
00:56:12,427 --> 00:56:15,267
Speaker 2: for the women's semifinals. That's the first one, followed by

971
00:56:15,267 --> 00:56:17,987
Speaker 2: the second. At the moment, it's men's qualifying going on,

972
00:56:18,027 --> 00:56:20,987
Speaker 2: and there might be some women's doubles as well. Actually,

973
00:56:21,107 --> 00:56:23,507
Speaker 2: just let me see if I can find out whether

974
00:56:23,547 --> 00:56:26,627
Speaker 2: it's actually a no, no, I won't do that while

975
00:56:26,627 --> 00:56:29,067
Speaker 2: we're on the air. That probably just that'll be great radio,

976
00:56:29,067 --> 00:56:31,627
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be clicking around a website. I'll come back

977
00:56:31,667 --> 00:56:34,747
Speaker 2: to you. But definitely the women's semifinals are starting from

978
00:56:34,907 --> 00:56:39,387
Speaker 2: five to thirty this afternoon. On Thursday, the Wellington Phoenix

979
00:56:39,467 --> 00:56:43,387
Speaker 2: confirmed the signing of All Whites Defender Build Toilama on

980
00:56:43,427 --> 00:56:45,947
Speaker 2: a two and a half year deal. Delivery is good

981
00:56:46,187 --> 00:56:50,307
Speaker 2: and zios for New Zealand and Bill Ziloma. It's the

982
00:56:50,387 --> 00:56:54,507
Speaker 2: man ten point delivery from Joe Bell build to Iloma.

983
00:56:54,667 --> 00:56:56,987
Speaker 2: Not It's Homer's third goal for New Zealand. For more

984
00:56:57,027 --> 00:56:57,987
Speaker 2: elevation on that one.

985
00:56:57,987 --> 00:57:00,067
Speaker 7: But then it comes out from to Ilama.

986
00:57:00,227 --> 00:57:02,947
Speaker 2: It's a second goal from a corner for Build to

987
00:57:03,067 --> 00:57:05,947
Speaker 2: Ilama on a night he's head in Doha. It's a

988
00:57:05,947 --> 00:57:08,867
Speaker 2: long way at homecoming for the thirty year old defender.

989
00:57:08,947 --> 00:57:12,227
Speaker 2: He's played more than two hundred professional matches in France

990
00:57:12,347 --> 00:57:14,947
Speaker 2: and the United States. He will have to wait for

991
00:57:14,987 --> 00:57:18,587
Speaker 2: the A League's mid season registration window to open. It's

992
00:57:18,667 --> 00:57:21,667
Speaker 2: not that far away. It opens on Wednesday. It means

993
00:57:21,667 --> 00:57:24,587
Speaker 2: he can't play tomorrow for the Phoenix against Adelaide, but

994
00:57:25,067 --> 00:57:28,867
Speaker 2: will be eligible to make his debut next weekend. So

995
00:57:28,947 --> 00:57:33,707
Speaker 2: Tomorrow it's Adelaide and then on Sunday, that's tomorrow week

996
00:57:33,747 --> 00:57:36,907
Speaker 2: they face Sydney. That will be his first opportunity to

997
00:57:36,947 --> 00:57:39,787
Speaker 2: play for his new site. I caught up with Bill

998
00:57:39,867 --> 00:57:42,827
Speaker 2: Tuloma on Thursday to find out how the move had

999
00:57:42,867 --> 00:57:43,427
Speaker 2: come about.

1000
00:57:44,067 --> 00:57:47,307
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I came across the table from agent

1001
00:57:47,427 --> 00:57:49,347
Speaker 10: and we really talked about it. You know, it took

1002
00:57:49,387 --> 00:57:52,587
Speaker 10: us a couple of weeks so thinking about it and

1003
00:57:52,627 --> 00:57:55,307
Speaker 10: processing it and you know, seeing where the best option

1004
00:57:55,507 --> 00:57:58,187
Speaker 10: was to go to and Phoenix will on top as

1005
00:57:58,227 --> 00:58:00,947
Speaker 10: well and special with them being in mid season, and

1006
00:58:01,347 --> 00:58:03,947
Speaker 10: I was excited just to make that decision on Christmas

1007
00:58:04,027 --> 00:58:05,707
Speaker 10: Day and come home.

1008
00:58:06,107 --> 00:58:08,507
Speaker 2: So you'd had the contract in front of you, you'd

1009
00:58:08,547 --> 00:58:10,907
Speaker 2: had the offer, and it was on Christmas Day that

1010
00:58:10,947 --> 00:58:11,587
Speaker 2: you made the call.

1011
00:58:11,867 --> 00:58:13,027
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was on Christmas Day.

1012
00:58:13,067 --> 00:58:13,307
Speaker 11: I work.

1013
00:58:13,987 --> 00:58:16,107
Speaker 10: I spoke with chief I think before a couple of

1014
00:58:16,187 --> 00:58:20,227
Speaker 10: days before Christmas, and you know, I wanted to think

1015
00:58:20,227 --> 00:58:22,667
Speaker 10: about it and you know, process things and take it

1016
00:58:22,707 --> 00:58:24,387
Speaker 10: easy and talk to my talk to my dad and

1017
00:58:24,427 --> 00:58:27,147
Speaker 10: my parents and see you know, you know fos, you

1018
00:58:27,147 --> 00:58:30,387
Speaker 10: know the right move and work up on Christmas and

1019
00:58:30,627 --> 00:58:32,347
Speaker 10: you know, tell myself, look, it's the right move, is

1020
00:58:32,387 --> 00:58:34,707
Speaker 10: the right option, let them, let my agent know that

1021
00:58:34,827 --> 00:58:37,667
Speaker 10: it's kind we're going to do and missus Shawane shawan

1022
00:58:37,707 --> 00:58:39,427
Speaker 10: girl to you know, let's do the signings.

1023
00:58:39,467 --> 00:58:41,867
Speaker 2: So very excited. So you've landed you here. You've had

1024
00:58:41,867 --> 00:58:44,107
Speaker 2: a few training sessions with the team. Does it feel

1025
00:58:44,147 --> 00:58:46,147
Speaker 2: like a team that will be comfortable for you to

1026
00:58:46,187 --> 00:58:46,987
Speaker 2: fit into? Yeah?

1027
00:58:47,067 --> 00:58:50,067
Speaker 10: Definitely definitely got these talent here, the way they want

1028
00:58:50,107 --> 00:58:52,067
Speaker 10: to play, the way the way that Chiefs wants to play,

1029
00:58:52,067 --> 00:58:54,907
Speaker 10: and being having that highline. It's it's great. I know,

1030
00:58:54,907 --> 00:58:58,067
Speaker 10: it's something that I'm used to I played. I played

1031
00:58:58,107 --> 00:59:00,827
Speaker 10: that formation as well, so I'm very excited to get

1032
00:59:00,907 --> 00:59:02,867
Speaker 10: on the pitch and hopefully perform for the team.

1033
00:59:03,147 --> 00:59:05,827
Speaker 2: And it's twenty twenty six now World Cup year. How

1034
00:59:05,867 --> 00:59:07,667
Speaker 2: important is it for you as a as an All

1035
00:59:07,707 --> 00:59:09,427
Speaker 2: Whites aspirant. You want to be on that plane to

1036
00:59:09,467 --> 00:59:10,707
Speaker 2: be playing football at the moment.

1037
00:59:10,747 --> 00:59:11,427
Speaker 4: It definitely is.

1038
00:59:11,667 --> 00:59:15,107
Speaker 10: It's one of my dream goals to go to the

1039
00:59:15,107 --> 00:59:17,587
Speaker 10: World Cup. And playing these games is very important for

1040
00:59:18,747 --> 00:59:21,187
Speaker 10: the national team coach to watch and you know, it's

1041
00:59:21,227 --> 00:59:24,307
Speaker 10: good for him to see players that are playing. And yeah,

1042
00:59:24,387 --> 00:59:26,427
Speaker 10: so I just want to perform and hopefully scored some

1043
00:59:26,467 --> 00:59:28,627
Speaker 10: goals and hopefully helped out the team to climb up

1044
00:59:28,667 --> 00:59:29,147
Speaker 10: the ladder.

1045
00:59:29,307 --> 00:59:30,467
Speaker 2: I was trying to work out the last time you

1046
00:59:30,467 --> 00:59:32,347
Speaker 2: would have played a club game in New Zealand. Would

1047
00:59:32,347 --> 00:59:33,867
Speaker 2: it have been for White Tarkety. Would that have been

1048
00:59:33,867 --> 00:59:35,747
Speaker 2: the last club team you played for here or was

1049
00:59:35,787 --> 00:59:37,827
Speaker 2: there another one before you went to Marseille.

1050
00:59:37,867 --> 00:59:41,147
Speaker 10: I think I think my last club game was Burko.

1051
00:59:41,547 --> 00:59:44,627
Speaker 10: I think it was Burkeo seventeen, eighteen years old, just

1052
00:59:45,507 --> 00:59:47,387
Speaker 10: I was about to turn eighteen and I left.

1053
00:59:47,467 --> 00:59:48,227
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember.

1054
00:59:49,187 --> 00:59:51,667
Speaker 2: So it's some career you've forged in Europe and in

1055
00:59:51,667 --> 00:59:55,827
Speaker 2: the United States. I mean, how different is Bill Tuoloma

1056
00:59:55,867 --> 00:59:58,067
Speaker 2: from the eighteen year old who took off to France

1057
00:59:58,107 --> 00:59:59,347
Speaker 2: to chase his football and dream.

1058
00:59:59,667 --> 01:00:02,267
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean football I've learned when I was eighteen,

1059
01:00:02,387 --> 01:00:06,267
Speaker 10: gone to Marseille, those those years there, I've learned so

1060
01:00:06,507 --> 01:00:09,867
Speaker 10: much on the pitch of playing against Piet, playing with

1061
01:00:09,947 --> 01:00:15,307
Speaker 10: Piet and you brothers, andrej Steve Madonna, the captain and goalie.

1062
01:00:15,467 --> 01:00:20,747
Speaker 10: There was just a massive, massive team of just maturity

1063
01:00:21,027 --> 01:00:24,307
Speaker 10: in that squad, and I just picked. I picked all

1064
01:00:24,307 --> 01:00:26,347
Speaker 10: the things I could learn off each player did. The

1065
01:00:26,427 --> 01:00:28,507
Speaker 10: metal was on and off the pitch. So yeah, and

1066
01:00:28,507 --> 01:00:31,027
Speaker 10: then you know, going to the States and trying to

1067
01:00:31,147 --> 01:00:33,427
Speaker 10: solidify my position in the States, and I you know,

1068
01:00:33,707 --> 01:00:35,747
Speaker 10: it took me a couple couple of years, and you know,

1069
01:00:35,747 --> 01:00:38,187
Speaker 10: I had had a breakout yere that that really you know,

1070
01:00:38,267 --> 01:00:40,947
Speaker 10: put me, put me out there, and I just keep working.

1071
01:00:41,027 --> 01:00:43,547
Speaker 10: And here we are in Willington, Phoenix, trying to you know,

1072
01:00:43,827 --> 01:00:45,907
Speaker 10: going to do my best and work work for work.

1073
01:00:46,267 --> 01:00:48,507
Speaker 10: Work started for the team.

1074
01:00:48,067 --> 01:00:50,787
Speaker 2: In eighteen young to be going away, you know, to

1075
01:00:50,827 --> 01:00:52,667
Speaker 2: the other side of the world to chase a dream.

1076
01:00:52,867 --> 01:00:54,827
Speaker 2: But did you feel ready at that time when you

1077
01:00:54,907 --> 01:00:58,467
Speaker 2: landed at eighteen, were you ready for that level? I did.

1078
01:00:58,587 --> 01:00:59,427
Speaker 4: I did feel ready.

1079
01:01:00,467 --> 01:01:03,987
Speaker 10: I was excited more of just you know, it was

1080
01:01:04,027 --> 01:01:06,227
Speaker 10: a dream that I wanted to I wanted to pursue,

1081
01:01:06,427 --> 01:01:08,627
Speaker 10: and at the age of fourteen, I told myself I

1082
01:01:08,667 --> 01:01:10,427
Speaker 10: want to be a pro so and I was just

1083
01:01:10,587 --> 01:01:13,627
Speaker 10: just happy and grateful by the grace of God that

1084
01:01:13,667 --> 01:01:16,507
Speaker 10: He's protected me and you know, guided me through through

1085
01:01:16,707 --> 01:01:19,027
Speaker 10: through all this, you know, throughout my journey. I know

1086
01:01:19,107 --> 01:01:19,747
Speaker 10: my journey is not.

1087
01:01:19,947 --> 01:01:20,627
Speaker 2: Not done yet.

1088
01:01:20,667 --> 01:01:22,867
Speaker 10: So we've got we've got six months to the client

1089
01:01:22,867 --> 01:01:25,027
Speaker 10: with the ladding change in the playoff spot.

1090
01:01:25,547 --> 01:01:27,827
Speaker 2: And also six months or just less than that to

1091
01:01:28,427 --> 01:01:30,027
Speaker 2: force your way into that World Cup squad. Yeah, and

1092
01:01:30,147 --> 01:01:32,467
Speaker 2: around the team at the moment, how much would it

1093
01:01:32,547 --> 01:01:34,627
Speaker 2: mean for you to go to a football World Cup

1094
01:01:34,627 --> 01:01:35,147
Speaker 2: with New Zealand.

1095
01:01:35,227 --> 01:01:37,987
Speaker 10: I mean for every player, every every young kid that

1096
01:01:38,187 --> 01:01:40,467
Speaker 10: has a big dream for the World Cup is the

1097
01:01:40,507 --> 01:01:44,267
Speaker 10: biggest tournament in the world, so you know, it will

1098
01:01:44,307 --> 01:01:46,187
Speaker 10: be a massive deal for me and my family.

1099
01:01:46,827 --> 01:01:48,307
Speaker 2: And in terms of the way that your watch are

1100
01:01:48,307 --> 01:01:51,147
Speaker 2: playing at the moment, you know, since qualifying some you know,

1101
01:01:51,187 --> 01:01:53,747
Speaker 2: games against high quality opposition and some narrow losses to

1102
01:01:53,787 --> 01:01:56,707
Speaker 2: win over coach Devoir as well. Do you feel confident

1103
01:01:56,707 --> 01:01:58,587
Speaker 2: that the Whites can go to the World Cup this

1104
01:01:58,707 --> 01:02:01,947
Speaker 2: year and really you know, make a good fist of it.

1105
01:02:02,147 --> 01:02:04,307
Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely, one hundred percent. We have the players. We

1106
01:02:04,387 --> 01:02:07,387
Speaker 10: have the players to do the job. Quality players in

1107
01:02:07,387 --> 01:02:10,547
Speaker 10: Europe and now it's all over Europe or you know,

1108
01:02:10,627 --> 01:02:13,147
Speaker 10: in the States, and we have the players to do it.

1109
01:02:13,227 --> 01:02:14,707
Speaker 10: We have the players to do the tactics. We have

1110
01:02:14,787 --> 01:02:17,147
Speaker 10: players to win games. And playing like you said, playing

1111
01:02:17,187 --> 01:02:19,587
Speaker 10: these big, big countries, it's gonna help us, you know,

1112
01:02:19,627 --> 01:02:21,507
Speaker 10: it's gonna help us grow and help us be better

1113
01:02:21,507 --> 01:02:22,147
Speaker 10: as a team.

1114
01:02:22,107 --> 01:02:23,787
Speaker 2: All right, and just to finish so six months say,

1115
01:02:23,787 --> 01:02:27,467
Speaker 2: as you say with Wellington Phoenix, you've only just arrived.

1116
01:02:27,507 --> 01:02:28,867
Speaker 2: But do you feel us know, this is a team

1117
01:02:28,867 --> 01:02:30,747
Speaker 2: that has the talent to you know, to turn around

1118
01:02:30,747 --> 01:02:32,667
Speaker 2: what's been a challenging start of the season and push

1119
01:02:32,947 --> 01:02:33,787
Speaker 2: towards the top six.

1120
01:02:33,907 --> 01:02:34,467
Speaker 4: It's definitely.

1121
01:02:34,507 --> 01:02:37,187
Speaker 10: I've you know, keept an eye on the on the

1122
01:02:37,347 --> 01:02:40,787
Speaker 10: on the on the schedule and seeing you know, where

1123
01:02:40,827 --> 01:02:43,467
Speaker 10: they're at the table. And after this big win, there's

1124
01:02:43,507 --> 01:02:45,507
Speaker 10: no now it's that that's the standard, you know, now

1125
01:02:45,507 --> 01:02:47,707
Speaker 10: we're gonna got to grow together and prove together as

1126
01:02:47,707 --> 01:02:51,507
Speaker 10: a team and also as individuals. And yeah, and now

1127
01:02:51,587 --> 01:02:54,307
Speaker 10: we're gotta keep that winning streat going because you know,

1128
01:02:54,427 --> 01:02:56,227
Speaker 10: two three games you're sitting in the top of the

1129
01:02:56,267 --> 01:02:59,027
Speaker 10: table or top four. So and with with the with

1130
01:02:59,147 --> 01:03:00,947
Speaker 10: the with the team that we have, it's we've got

1131
01:03:00,947 --> 01:03:02,867
Speaker 10: the quality, We've got the talent to to go to

1132
01:03:02,907 --> 01:03:07,987
Speaker 10: when being being a constant test to winners.

1133
01:03:08,027 --> 01:03:08,227
Speaker 1: RABI.

1134
01:03:08,507 --> 01:03:12,627
Speaker 2: That is Bill Tuilama, freshly signed Wellington Phoenix player. Next time,

1135
01:03:12,667 --> 01:03:15,547
Speaker 2: I'll choose a slightly quieter place to do the interview.

1136
01:03:15,587 --> 01:03:18,587
Speaker 2: That's out at in z Cis where the Phoenix shared

1137
01:03:18,627 --> 01:03:21,027
Speaker 2: digs with the Hurricanes. There was the Hurricanes in the

1138
01:03:21,027 --> 01:03:25,227
Speaker 2: background yahooing and one of their team building exercises. Good

1139
01:03:25,227 --> 01:03:26,787
Speaker 2: to know that they're in good spirits hit of the

1140
01:03:26,827 --> 01:03:28,987
Speaker 2: new Super Rugby season. But great to get the chance

1141
01:03:29,027 --> 01:03:31,947
Speaker 2: to chat to Bill Tuilama. So yeah, he can't play

1142
01:03:31,947 --> 01:03:35,587
Speaker 2: tomorrow but will be eligible to play from next weekend.

1143
01:03:35,667 --> 01:03:39,267
Speaker 2: I also spoke to Phoenix coach Giancarlo Otelliano to find

1144
01:03:39,307 --> 01:03:42,307
Speaker 2: out what he liked about b. Tuilama and how he

1145
01:03:42,547 --> 01:03:43,427
Speaker 2: got him to Wellington.

1146
01:03:43,907 --> 01:03:48,027
Speaker 12: So the MLS season finished in December he was a

1147
01:03:48,227 --> 01:03:52,507
Speaker 12: free agent, so we made some initial inquiries to see

1148
01:03:52,507 --> 01:03:56,467
Speaker 12: if he was interested. Discussions a little bit ongoing, and

1149
01:03:57,107 --> 01:04:00,987
Speaker 12: over the last couple of weeks after we spoke via

1150
01:04:01,107 --> 01:04:06,347
Speaker 12: zoom than it accelerated and happy to get him over them.

1151
01:04:06,707 --> 01:04:08,347
Speaker 4: What will he bring to your side?

1152
01:04:08,867 --> 01:04:12,747
Speaker 12: I think more importantly the experience. I think that's on

1153
01:04:12,867 --> 01:04:14,987
Speaker 12: and off the pitch. I think he's a great character.

1154
01:04:16,347 --> 01:04:17,907
Speaker 12: I actually met his old man he was training the

1155
01:04:17,907 --> 01:04:20,987
Speaker 12: other day. I can tell he's got you know, good parents,

1156
01:04:21,067 --> 01:04:25,307
Speaker 12: and just is just really stable sort of individual. And

1157
01:04:25,347 --> 01:04:28,947
Speaker 12: I think, you know, as a central defender, he brings

1158
01:04:28,947 --> 01:04:31,267
Speaker 12: that composure to the to the back line, and he'll

1159
01:04:31,307 --> 01:04:33,427
Speaker 12: be able to give his experience with the younger guys.

1160
01:04:33,507 --> 01:04:35,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, how much of a leadership role will you be

1161
01:04:35,307 --> 01:04:37,387
Speaker 2: asking him to take? Not necessarily with the arm game,

1162
01:04:37,467 --> 01:04:39,067
Speaker 2: But I'm.

1163
01:04:38,947 --> 01:04:40,387
Speaker 12: Not going to put that burden on him yet. I

1164
01:04:40,387 --> 01:04:43,747
Speaker 12: think his leadership will come through actions and how he

1165
01:04:43,907 --> 01:04:48,627
Speaker 12: you know, delivers on an individual basis. But again, you know,

1166
01:04:49,387 --> 01:04:52,627
Speaker 12: I think the leadership obviously his action, it's not words.

1167
01:04:52,667 --> 01:04:55,027
Speaker 12: And and if he just does his job, and you know,

1168
01:04:55,627 --> 01:04:57,827
Speaker 12: he's the player that I know he is, he'll be

1169
01:04:57,827 --> 01:04:59,347
Speaker 12: a great, great leader.

1170
01:04:59,507 --> 01:05:01,267
Speaker 2: How can were you to get him on a long

1171
01:05:01,347 --> 01:05:02,947
Speaker 2: term dealer? I think you know there was a school

1172
01:05:02,987 --> 01:05:05,067
Speaker 2: of thought perhaps Bill might be coming, might be a

1173
01:05:05,067 --> 01:05:06,747
Speaker 2: six month thing. You've got him for two years.

1174
01:05:06,747 --> 01:05:07,707
Speaker 4: How key was that for you?

1175
01:05:07,867 --> 01:05:10,707
Speaker 12: I think that's very important shows the intention of the club.

1176
01:05:10,827 --> 01:05:15,787
Speaker 12: I think it also allows for long term planning around him.

1177
01:05:16,227 --> 01:05:18,347
Speaker 12: And I think that you know, in a World Cup year,

1178
01:05:18,427 --> 01:05:20,347
Speaker 12: is going to have the right motivation to player this season.

1179
01:05:20,867 --> 01:05:23,387
Speaker 12: He wants to play. If you ask him. His whole

1180
01:05:23,387 --> 01:05:25,827
Speaker 12: conversation with me was he just wants to go out

1181
01:05:25,827 --> 01:05:28,227
Speaker 12: and play as many games as he can and find

1182
01:05:28,227 --> 01:05:30,227
Speaker 12: his love for football again. He is definitely going to

1183
01:05:30,227 --> 01:05:33,867
Speaker 12: find that here. You know, we suit the style of player.

1184
01:05:33,907 --> 01:05:37,827
Speaker 12: He is fantastic on the ball, great defensive composure. So

1185
01:05:38,787 --> 01:05:41,347
Speaker 12: I think, you know, it's great that he's signing for

1186
01:05:41,347 --> 01:05:42,147
Speaker 12: two and a half years.

1187
01:05:42,307 --> 01:05:44,187
Speaker 2: I know you always talk about players coming in and

1188
01:05:44,187 --> 01:05:46,427
Speaker 2: what level the at fitness wise. I think his last

1189
01:05:46,427 --> 01:05:49,947
Speaker 2: games were in November for the national team. What sort

1190
01:05:49,947 --> 01:05:53,387
Speaker 2: of state do you do you perceive in Divan like,

1191
01:05:53,427 --> 01:05:55,587
Speaker 2: for example, when he's available, could he play ninety minutes

1192
01:05:55,627 --> 01:05:56,107
Speaker 2: for example?

1193
01:05:57,547 --> 01:05:57,707
Speaker 13: Ni?

1194
01:05:57,867 --> 01:06:00,227
Speaker 12: I think playing ninety at the moment would be very

1195
01:06:00,307 --> 01:06:05,667
Speaker 12: unrealistic or be an incremental approach. I think that realistically,

1196
01:06:05,707 --> 01:06:07,867
Speaker 12: you know, he probably picked up a knock in that

1197
01:06:08,467 --> 01:06:12,347
Speaker 12: international window, and he hasn't done a lot of work

1198
01:06:12,347 --> 01:06:14,107
Speaker 12: with a born in the last couple of months, so

1199
01:06:14,827 --> 01:06:16,587
Speaker 12: I think this is the first couple of days of

1200
01:06:16,627 --> 01:06:18,627
Speaker 12: training back to back for a long time. So we're

1201
01:06:18,627 --> 01:06:22,107
Speaker 12: just going to assess it week by week. And I

1202
01:06:22,147 --> 01:06:26,627
Speaker 12: think once the once we feel is confident to make

1203
01:06:26,627 --> 01:06:30,827
Speaker 12: a contribution, will you give him a small amount of

1204
01:06:30,867 --> 01:06:33,867
Speaker 12: game time and then build on that and then you know,

1205
01:06:33,947 --> 01:06:37,387
Speaker 12: hopefully Yeah, I'm not in a rush to force him

1206
01:06:37,427 --> 01:06:39,907
Speaker 12: back in, but the way he's going at the moment,

1207
01:06:39,947 --> 01:06:42,267
Speaker 12: I'm quietly confident that we can get there sooner rather

1208
01:06:42,307 --> 01:06:42,667
Speaker 12: than later.

1209
01:06:42,987 --> 01:06:46,387
Speaker 2: I also wanted to ask Janklo Taliana about his very

1210
01:06:46,507 --> 01:06:50,547
Speaker 2: emotional reaction in the postmatch press conference to the three

1211
01:06:50,587 --> 01:06:56,107
Speaker 2: mil win over Brisbane last weekend. You were the emotional

1212
01:06:56,147 --> 01:06:56,707
Speaker 2: after the game.

1213
01:06:59,147 --> 01:07:01,467
Speaker 12: Well, do you think that was because I was just

1214
01:07:01,467 --> 01:07:05,307
Speaker 12: happy for the team. Everyone talks about it being something

1215
01:07:05,387 --> 01:07:09,467
Speaker 12: related to me. I I'm what's the word. I'm very

1216
01:07:11,027 --> 01:07:14,827
Speaker 12: I'm very animated, very animated. So I felt as after

1217
01:07:14,867 --> 01:07:17,187
Speaker 12: the game it was one of the first times I

1218
01:07:17,267 --> 01:07:20,147
Speaker 12: felt like the players gave me one hundred percent. You know,

1219
01:07:20,307 --> 01:07:23,307
Speaker 12: I think you know, I've played a lot of games,

1220
01:07:23,387 --> 01:07:25,107
Speaker 12: or sorry, coach a lot of games. You've been part

1221
01:07:25,147 --> 01:07:27,947
Speaker 12: of a lot of groups. I never felt that feeling

1222
01:07:28,107 --> 01:07:31,947
Speaker 12: coming away from that, And it's a nice feeling, you know.

1223
01:07:32,307 --> 01:07:34,227
Speaker 12: I've had it a couple of times before when I've

1224
01:07:34,267 --> 01:07:37,707
Speaker 12: coached under fifteens and I've coached some teams that you know,

1225
01:07:37,987 --> 01:07:40,427
Speaker 12: I coach an under twelve team that I remember the

1226
01:07:40,467 --> 01:07:42,707
Speaker 12: were bottom of the table. We played top team and

1227
01:07:42,947 --> 01:07:44,707
Speaker 12: parents couldn't believe it. We ended up winning two one,

1228
01:07:44,867 --> 01:07:47,227
Speaker 12: but it was the best performance I've ever seen. So

1229
01:07:47,467 --> 01:07:50,547
Speaker 12: those moments stay with me. Yeah, and when you give

1230
01:07:50,547 --> 01:07:53,267
Speaker 12: one hundred percent, you know, it's like a release of emotion,

1231
01:07:53,427 --> 01:07:57,027
Speaker 12: and you know it's been tough for the group, you know.

1232
01:07:57,787 --> 01:07:58,467
Speaker 4: You know, I don't make it.

1233
01:07:58,547 --> 01:08:01,347
Speaker 12: I don't know from it. You know, there's I said

1234
01:08:01,547 --> 01:08:02,907
Speaker 12: in my press, So there's a lot of crap that

1235
01:08:02,907 --> 01:08:05,467
Speaker 12: gets said about us, and I think it's totally unwarranted

1236
01:08:05,547 --> 01:08:08,987
Speaker 12: or we get me represented and sometimes things that get

1237
01:08:08,987 --> 01:08:11,067
Speaker 12: taken out of context, which is just like, you know,

1238
01:08:11,507 --> 01:08:13,667
Speaker 12: it's unfair in the group and I worry about the

1239
01:08:13,667 --> 01:08:16,467
Speaker 12: young play sometimes in actually managing that sin you plays

1240
01:08:16,467 --> 01:08:18,787
Speaker 12: a little bit you know, smarter. But I just felt

1241
01:08:18,787 --> 01:08:21,387
Speaker 12: as though there was a maturity within the whole group that.

1242
01:08:21,267 --> 01:08:23,867
Speaker 4: It was like it was us.

1243
01:08:23,187 --> 01:08:25,507
Speaker 12: Sort of moment and I think, you know it was

1244
01:08:25,747 --> 01:08:29,307
Speaker 12: it was on display, and you know, I was really happy.

1245
01:08:29,387 --> 01:08:31,027
Speaker 4: You know, it's all right to be happy, you know,

1246
01:08:31,147 --> 01:08:31,907
Speaker 4: and show emotion.

1247
01:08:32,787 --> 01:08:35,587
Speaker 2: Look, Unsen, were you surprised though that it came out

1248
01:08:35,587 --> 01:08:35,827
Speaker 2: that way?

1249
01:08:35,907 --> 01:08:37,907
Speaker 12: But yeah, I did, actually to be fair, because it

1250
01:08:38,067 --> 01:08:42,387
Speaker 12: was I was so happy going into the into the

1251
01:08:42,387 --> 01:08:44,627
Speaker 12: press conference, and that was the first place where I

1252
01:08:44,667 --> 01:08:46,387
Speaker 12: actually coached my first game in a leagu when I

1253
01:08:46,427 --> 01:08:49,987
Speaker 12: took over when UFI was you know, he had COVID,

1254
01:08:50,067 --> 01:08:51,987
Speaker 12: So I don't know, it was just weird and I

1255
01:08:52,107 --> 01:08:54,907
Speaker 12: just thought about it, and you know, sometimes the emotion gets.

1256
01:08:54,667 --> 01:08:55,307
Speaker 4: The best out of you.

1257
01:08:55,387 --> 01:08:59,147
Speaker 12: And but I was pleasantly just it was more emotional

1258
01:08:59,147 --> 01:08:59,587
Speaker 12: for the guys.

1259
01:08:59,627 --> 01:08:59,987
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1260
01:09:00,107 --> 01:09:02,187
Speaker 2: That is Jian Callo, a Taliano, head coach of the

1261
01:09:02,227 --> 01:09:06,307
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix. So they face Adelaide United tomorrow at home,

1262
01:09:06,427 --> 01:09:09,187
Speaker 2: looking to build on their win over Brisbane a week ago.

1263
01:09:09,387 --> 01:09:12,827
Speaker 2: Very impressive when against Brisbane a week ago. We'll have

1264
01:09:12,947 --> 01:09:16,347
Speaker 2: more on that on the show tomorrow coming up twenty

1265
01:09:16,347 --> 01:09:18,107
Speaker 2: one away from two. Take a bay, come back and

1266
01:09:18,267 --> 01:09:21,867
Speaker 2: wrap the Ashes with our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock.

1267
01:09:22,707 --> 01:09:24,547
Speaker 4: It's more than just a game.

1268
01:09:24,867 --> 01:09:29,547
Speaker 1: Weekend sport with Jason Fine and GJ Crnomes, New Zealand's

1269
01:09:29,547 --> 01:09:31,347
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder, News talks.

1270
01:09:31,347 --> 01:09:34,307
Speaker 2: They'd be news talks. They'll be coming at eighteen to two.

1271
01:09:34,387 --> 01:09:37,827
Speaker 2: On Thursday, Australia wrapped up a four to one Ashes

1272
01:09:37,947 --> 01:09:40,987
Speaker 2: series victory over England, winning the final Test in Sydney

1273
01:09:40,987 --> 01:09:46,227
Speaker 2: by five wigets. It's true the winning runs from the

1274
01:09:46,227 --> 01:09:51,107
Speaker 2: Battle Alex Kerry. A fine series by the Australian vigit.

1275
01:09:50,987 --> 01:09:56,667
Speaker 7: Keeper Fine all our series by the entire Australian squad.

1276
01:09:56,987 --> 01:09:59,627
Speaker 2: So let's wrap the series with our Australian correspondent to

1277
01:09:59,627 --> 01:10:02,307
Speaker 2: Adam Peacock, who joins us in his regular slot. You've

1278
01:10:02,307 --> 01:10:05,147
Speaker 2: been covering the Ashes brilliantly both here with us but

1279
01:10:05,227 --> 01:10:08,467
Speaker 2: also on your Willow Talk podcast. Adam, I want to

1280
01:10:08,507 --> 01:10:12,027
Speaker 2: ask you about a few different features of the Ashes.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Travis Head. Incredible series from him, six

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty nine runs in ten innings three centuries,

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Speaker 2: nine of those ten innings opening the batting, which is

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Speaker 2: not as regular slot you normally find them batting at

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Speaker 2: number five in test matches. Given his success, will Travis

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Speaker 2: Head continue to open the batting for Australia in test matches?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Great party, I reckon he will. Actually, looking at the

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Speaker 11: schedule coming up, I think of the subcontinent he was

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Speaker 11: always going to open. Like when they last went to India,

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Speaker 11: he started opening the batting. I think he'll do the

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Speaker 11: same in twelve months time when we're over there at

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Speaker 11: the five Tests, and before then we're playing Bangladesh. We're

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Speaker 11: playing new guys out of here. So I can't see

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Speaker 11: any reason why he wouldn't. The way he plays the

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Speaker 11: white ball game translates now to the red ball game.

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Speaker 11: Like David Warner was an attacking player, I think Travis

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Speaker 11: Head he's an even more attacking unconventional, more unconventional than

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Speaker 11: David Warner, but you get the same results. I think

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Speaker 11: with our batting stocks in three, four, five, we've got

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Speaker 11: options there that we can use if Travis does go

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Speaker 11: up in the audi ow, I reckon you will.

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Speaker 2: Was it any surprise that he did so well because

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Speaker 2: He's hardly ever opened in test matches, and this was

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Speaker 2: really it wasn't by design. It was more by necessity,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it. But were you surprised at all at the

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Speaker 2: way he equipped himself to opening the batting.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I was, like, it certainly wasn't on anyone's prediction

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Speaker 11: card that he was going to open the batting at

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Speaker 11: any stage during the ashes. Regardless of what happened with

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Speaker 11: Usman Kwaijor, I think we would have found another opener,

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Speaker 11: but just him flippantly saying, yo, I'll open when Usam

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Speaker 11: Kaijer wasn't ready to open the batting in the second

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Speaker 11: innings in Perth, it was certainly a better option than

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Speaker 11: the first innings when Marmas Labashet got chanted up and

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Speaker 11: then Steve Smith went up and kind of disjointed the

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Speaker 11: whole order.

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Speaker 3: It was just.

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Speaker 11: One placement now that we had to figure out. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: I think definitely it's his place, and yeah, it's exciting

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Speaker 11: to watch when he's at the top of the order.

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Speaker 11: And yeah, it was a weird old series. Point is

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Speaker 11: because we didn't have these absolute breakout stars apart from

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Speaker 11: Trevor's head Alex Terry Mitt Stark. Every other player that

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Speaker 11: played didn't really set the world on fire. But the

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Speaker 11: difference was that the Australians who played, they all made

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Speaker 11: some kind of mentul difference with one moment or more,

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Speaker 11: whereas the English didn't have that. They didn't have these

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Speaker 11: players popping up with big moments here and there. You

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Speaker 11: had Joe Root, you had Jacob Bethel Scott in centuries

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Speaker 11: that they didn't have enough friends and.

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Speaker 2: That was the key in terms of the Australian banning order.

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Speaker 2: We know it was when Kawaja now steps away from

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Speaker 2: Test matches. We know Trevior's Head's going to be there

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Speaker 2: in some way, shape or form. But what about the others?

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Speaker 2: Jack weatherall only a couple of hundred runs in the series,

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Speaker 2: Manus Labashane averaging under thirty, cam Green averaging under twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we know Steve Smith's magnificent player. Are there

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Speaker 2: questions about the Test batting order over the next twelve

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Speaker 2: to eighteen months or so?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, it's still not settled. You're right about Jake

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Speaker 11: Weather or he doesn't have the you know, the packing

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Speaker 11: of a huge body of work, especially at the international level.

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Speaker 11: Cameron Green they just like because he can bowl over

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Speaker 11: one forty and he can bat well, and when he

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Speaker 11: puts his head to it and he figures it out,

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Speaker 11: he's going to be immensely, immensely difficult to stop. But

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Speaker 11: at the moment everyone's frustrated that he keeps on throwing

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Speaker 11: his wicket away and not providing much with the ball.

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Speaker 11: I think that's a little harsh to the ladder one.

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Speaker 11: I think he provides a lot with the ball, he

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Speaker 11: plays a role, but with the bat, yeah, definitely, he's

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Speaker 11: been disappointing, so he'll be given chances in Marnus I

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Speaker 11: think as well. He showed signs during this ashes that

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Speaker 11: he's working out, and then he showed signs of his

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Speaker 11: old self when he became really confused. So yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 11: there's questions, but I think there's more. There's a more

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Speaker 11: settled field to the team out of the Test series

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Speaker 11: and then before going in, and I think that's down

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Speaker 11: to a number of factors, namely some of them named

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Speaker 11: up and secondly England just didn't throw enough at us

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Speaker 11: on a consistent base.

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Speaker 2: What about bo Webster comes in and gets seventy odd

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Speaker 2: not out, picks up three for and the second inning

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Speaker 2: of the fiftiest. Where was he in the first four?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well there was not a spot for him, and

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Speaker 11: the hard one because on paper it looked like they've

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Speaker 11: made a horrible mistake. But I don't think they were

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Speaker 11: three one up in the series when he came into

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Speaker 11: the team, so they were still winning games. I get

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Speaker 11: the feeling that bow is judged on the fact that, yes,

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Speaker 11: he's a very good all rounder, but Cameron Green has

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Speaker 11: more upside. So now that you look at his figures

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Speaker 11: now and people say, well, you can't lie against that,

1375
01:14:59,907 --> 01:15:03,427
Speaker 11: well you can't, but they have to make a judgment

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Speaker 11: call if they're only going to one all rounder and

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Speaker 11: at the moment, Cameron Green, I think, because of his

1378
01:15:08,547 --> 01:15:11,867
Speaker 11: air speed with the ball, gets the not so yeah,

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Speaker 11: it'll be a big discussion point out of the next

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Speaker 11: day of the months they when Australia start playing chest

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Speaker 11: cricket a lot from about August.

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Speaker 2: Which English players adam leave with an enhanced reputation or

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Speaker 2: even with their reputation intact.

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Speaker 11: Enhance Josh Tungue, Jacob Bethel and therein lies the problem

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Speaker 11: because they didn't, they weren't. They weren't then good enough

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Speaker 11: to play in the first two tests which seems ridiculous.

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Speaker 11: Josh Tungu would have done really well in Perth, he

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Speaker 11: would have done exceptionally well in Brisbane, I reckon, but

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Speaker 11: he was judged to not not be ahead of the

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Speaker 11: other guys and their plans just didn't come off. Their

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Speaker 11: mentality wasn't quite there. But apart from that, I don't

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Speaker 11: think anyone anyone walks away with Oh Joe Root can

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01:15:59,907 --> 01:16:03,867
Speaker 11: walk away now saying I'll kicked that. But really Australia

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01:16:04,107 --> 01:16:06,667
Speaker 11: had had a bit of a scalaal and for the

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Speaker 11: rest of the time when he wasn't scoring centuries, especially

1396
01:16:08,867 --> 01:16:10,867
Speaker 11: in Adelaid when I really need him and the game

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01:16:10,867 --> 01:16:12,667
Speaker 11: could have been different with a big score from Joe

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Speaker 11: Rupe and Pat Cummers just has his number. So yeah,

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Speaker 11: it goes two Bethel and time.

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Speaker 2: I reckon, all right, And I want to talk about

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01:16:20,187 --> 01:16:23,467
Speaker 2: Mitchell Stark. I mean, we talk about enhanced reputations cheap

1402
01:16:23,507 --> 01:16:27,027
Speaker 2: as it's a high bar anyway, but thirty one wickets

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01:16:27,067 --> 01:16:29,147
Speaker 2: in this series. I saw this great chat you had

1404
01:16:29,147 --> 01:16:31,307
Speaker 2: with he and Alyssa Heally on Willow Talk and he

1405
01:16:31,307 --> 01:16:34,187
Speaker 2: talked about keeping receipts. Can you can you give us

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01:16:34,187 --> 01:16:35,467
Speaker 2: a quick summary of that Chet.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well Mitch, Mitch is a guy that likes being

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01:16:39,587 --> 01:16:42,627
Speaker 11: motivated and he finds ways of getting motive a supports

1409
01:16:42,667 --> 01:16:45,187
Speaker 11: people do and he doesn't mind talking about it. But yeah,

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01:16:45,707 --> 01:16:47,827
Speaker 11: if someone's going to tell him he can't do something,

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01:16:47,907 --> 01:16:49,987
Speaker 11: he's going to try and find a way to do it.

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Speaker 11: Especially at this stage in his career. He knows his

1413
01:16:52,027 --> 01:16:54,867
Speaker 11: game so well. He knows when he has to prepare

1414
01:16:54,867 --> 01:16:56,907
Speaker 11: and that with Keith and Mitch, he's got a great preparation.

1415
01:16:57,147 --> 01:17:01,547
Speaker 11: He kind of didn't play he's retired from T twenty

1416
01:17:01,587 --> 01:17:03,387
Speaker 11: so he didn't have to play that series against India,

1417
01:17:03,667 --> 01:17:05,787
Speaker 11: played a couple of one dayers, but built up slowly,

1418
01:17:05,867 --> 01:17:07,907
Speaker 11: played a couple of shield games. I think he did

1419
01:17:08,427 --> 01:17:13,827
Speaker 11: and just got himself physically in absolute mint condition. And

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Speaker 11: I think he went off to drink as well, which

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Speaker 11: maybe he's a good idea for all of us after

1422
01:17:17,707 --> 01:17:21,187
Speaker 11: the Christmas period. So yeah, he just he just precked

1423
01:17:21,227 --> 01:17:25,467
Speaker 11: himself so well and he got everything out of himself,

1424
01:17:25,547 --> 01:17:27,867
Speaker 11: and yeah, absolutely time for him. Is a great guy.

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Speaker 11: And yeah, with the fact that he had no pack comings,

1426
01:17:31,787 --> 01:17:33,987
Speaker 11: no Josh Hazelwood, the other the other two and the

1427
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Speaker 11: three man pace game that we've got and he had

1428
01:17:37,347 --> 01:17:40,147
Speaker 11: to really carry the way. If he doesn't bowl well,

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01:17:40,507 --> 01:17:42,947
Speaker 11: things are a lot harder for Australia. And time and

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Speaker 11: time again, I'll go to go back and check it,

1431
01:17:45,187 --> 01:17:47,347
Speaker 11: but time and time again he took a wicket with

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Speaker 11: his first belt in an innings. I don't know how

1433
01:17:50,547 --> 01:17:52,707
Speaker 11: many times he did it, but just felt like every

1434
01:17:52,787 --> 01:17:55,347
Speaker 11: single time he went about it, they were one far

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01:17:55,827 --> 01:18:01,427
Speaker 11: after Mix finished his first bell. So yeah, incredible, incredible summer.

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Speaker 2: And his wife, Alyssa Healy. I mean, she's a terrific

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01:18:04,347 --> 01:18:09,467
Speaker 2: cricketer as well, but her her incisive analysis both on

1438
01:18:09,507 --> 01:18:13,787
Speaker 2: your podcast but also on the television broadcast, she's almost

1439
01:18:13,787 --> 01:18:16,027
Speaker 2: like a player of the series off the field, doesn't she.

1440
01:18:16,747 --> 01:18:21,147
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, that's how I have another pod on on

1441
01:18:21,307 --> 01:18:24,507
Speaker 11: day five, I said, the two people are serious standing

1442
01:18:24,507 --> 01:18:28,627
Speaker 11: with me right here that she like, it's no surprise

1443
01:18:28,667 --> 01:18:31,507
Speaker 11: to me what she's doing on TV because we talk

1444
01:18:31,587 --> 01:18:34,707
Speaker 11: a lot on the podcast obviously, but she's just she's

1445
01:18:34,747 --> 01:18:37,707
Speaker 11: just such a natural human being. What there's no bas

1446
01:18:37,787 --> 01:18:41,867
Speaker 11: about her. She's one of the most competitive people I've

1447
01:18:41,907 --> 01:18:43,987
Speaker 11: ever met in my life. When you've thrown a sporting

1448
01:18:44,027 --> 01:18:46,787
Speaker 11: context a bit with a golf club or a cricket

1449
01:18:46,827 --> 01:18:50,867
Speaker 11: bat or whatever. But away from that, she's just, you know, fun.

1450
01:18:51,947 --> 01:18:54,587
Speaker 11: I'll sum it up by the fact that when this

1451
01:18:54,827 --> 01:18:57,467
Speaker 11: is on the podcast, they're not giving away any secrets.

1452
01:18:57,987 --> 01:19:00,667
Speaker 11: Her family know, well, they got her a nerf gun

1453
01:19:00,827 --> 01:19:04,507
Speaker 11: for Christmas, so that kind of points to the type

1454
01:19:04,507 --> 01:19:06,947
Speaker 11: of mentality she has in downtimes.

1455
01:19:06,947 --> 01:19:08,827
Speaker 3: She's just she just likes.

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Speaker 11: Being a kid. So no, she's good fun and a

1457
01:19:11,627 --> 01:19:15,307
Speaker 11: great commentator and obviously got the cricket IQ in the

1458
01:19:15,907 --> 01:19:18,827
Speaker 11: in the highest percentile. So yeah, look forward to hearing

1459
01:19:18,867 --> 01:19:21,147
Speaker 11: plenty more of her over the next couple of decades.

1460
01:19:21,147 --> 01:19:23,507
Speaker 2: I'd say absolutely, have loved your coverage of the Ashes

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01:19:23,547 --> 01:19:25,547
Speaker 2: over the last of the last sort of five or

1462
01:19:25,587 --> 01:19:27,827
Speaker 2: six weeks or so, Adam, and great to get your

1463
01:19:27,827 --> 01:19:29,987
Speaker 2: analysis here on the radio too. So I guess it's

1464
01:19:29,987 --> 01:19:32,667
Speaker 2: the Aussie Open nixt for you. Is that your next

1465
01:19:32,667 --> 01:19:33,227
Speaker 2: point of call?

1466
01:19:33,987 --> 01:19:38,267
Speaker 11: Yes, heading down there on Thursday, so yeah, looking forward

1467
01:19:38,307 --> 01:19:39,947
Speaker 11: to that. Keeping an eye on the tennis at the moment.

1468
01:19:40,067 --> 01:19:42,347
Speaker 11: Showing about Nick Carios, but it's probably the right thing

1469
01:19:42,387 --> 01:19:45,027
Speaker 11: to do. He's not ready to play five five set tennis,

1470
01:19:45,027 --> 01:19:47,307
Speaker 11: so just play the doubles. He'll become a SoCal point

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01:19:47,307 --> 01:19:50,147
Speaker 11: every second day when he's playing with mate Donati and yeah,

1472
01:19:50,187 --> 01:19:52,387
Speaker 11: the rest of it it's senner, our, charasm and men

1473
01:19:52,427 --> 01:19:55,467
Speaker 11: and then yeah take your pick in the women's again.

1474
01:19:55,867 --> 01:19:58,587
Speaker 2: Look forward to catching up with you from Melbourne next week.

1475
01:19:58,627 --> 01:20:00,427
Speaker 2: Always appreciate you your time on z B.

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01:20:00,507 --> 01:20:01,507
Speaker 11: Adam, he's funny.

1477
01:20:01,507 --> 01:20:03,267
Speaker 2: Have everyone you have a good one too, mate, Thanks indeed,

1478
01:20:03,267 --> 01:20:06,267
Speaker 2: Adam Peacock with his wrap all the ashes Australia four

1479
01:20:06,427 --> 01:20:10,707
Speaker 2: England one. Speaking of cricket, Michael Bracewell with us after

1480
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Speaker 2: two o'clock and just to look ahead tomorrow after midday,

1481
01:20:13,787 --> 01:20:16,627
Speaker 2: Ruchian Revendra going to join us for a chat. He

1482
01:20:16,667 --> 01:20:20,307
Speaker 2: will shortly depart for the T twenty segment of the

1483
01:20:20,387 --> 01:20:23,627
Speaker 2: tour of India and then stay on obviously for the

1484
01:20:23,787 --> 01:20:27,267
Speaker 2: T twenty World Cup. But Ruchan Ravendra is also just

1485
01:20:27,307 --> 01:20:30,187
Speaker 2: an absolute fanatic when it comes to Test cricket. He

1486
01:20:30,227 --> 01:20:32,707
Speaker 2: loves playing Test matches. So how much will he be

1487
01:20:32,707 --> 01:20:35,027
Speaker 2: looking forward to England away India at home and that

1488
01:20:35,107 --> 01:20:38,907
Speaker 2: four Test series against Australia coming up next summer? Yes,

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Speaker 2: a're Rutchan with us after midday tomorrow seven away from

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Speaker 2: two news talks.

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Speaker 1: When it's down to the line you made a call

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Speaker 1: on eight hundred eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Hine, News.

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Speaker 2: Talk ZEB four to two. After two Michael Bracewell on

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01:20:53,027 --> 01:20:55,347
Speaker 2: the show. We'll also flip back to football with Auklear

1495
01:20:55,467 --> 01:20:57,787
Speaker 2: FC's win last night taking them five points square at

1496
01:20:57,827 --> 01:21:00,067
Speaker 2: the top of the A League ladder. Also the Phoenix

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Speaker 2: women up against Melbourne City this afternoon in christ Church,

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Speaker 2: the Super Smash double header about to get under way.

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Speaker 2: Canterbury have won the toss and sent Auckland into bat

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Speaker 2: in the women's game. It is thirty degrees in christ Church.

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Speaker 2: What's going on down there? Thirty one actually thirty one decrease?

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01:21:18,027 --> 01:21:21,627
Speaker 2: Goodness me hope they've got plenty of shade. We'll keep

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01:21:21,747 --> 01:21:24,707
Speaker 2: eyes on that for you, as well as other bits

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Speaker 2: and pieces. After two.

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Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

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01:21:30,387 --> 01:21:34,227
Speaker 1: on and after field. It's all on Weekend Sport with

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01:21:34,467 --> 01:21:39,067
Speaker 1: Jason Pade on your Home of Sport in New Talks.

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Speaker 2: Hello there, Welcome into Weekend Sport. Welcome back to Weekend Sport.

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01:21:45,827 --> 01:21:48,587
Speaker 2: Seven past time. Jason Pine, Adam Maternal here too. We're

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Speaker 2: here till three. Adam Cooper taking over with summer weekends

1511
01:21:52,467 --> 01:21:56,107
Speaker 2: after three before we get there, a bit to get through.

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Speaker 2: Michael brace while standing by the chat to us out

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Speaker 2: of India where he's going to captain the New Zealand's

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Speaker 2: Odie I side, the black Apps Odie I side. It's

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01:22:04,987 --> 01:22:07,507
Speaker 2: kind of a strange, but ashide. So the black Caps

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Speaker 2: are there. They play three One day internationals, then five

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Speaker 2: T twenty Internationals leading into the T twenty World Cup

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Speaker 2: in India. Of course, just wonder why these one days

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Speaker 2: have been kind of stuck in there, But what it

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Speaker 2: has done is given the black Caps electors the chance

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Speaker 2: to widen their net quite a bit. There's a number

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Speaker 2: of fresh faces in the squad, some uncapped players, a

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Speaker 2: number who haven't played very often for New Zealand, some

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Speaker 2: not in this format. So how does Michael Bracewall go

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Speaker 2: about pulling that team together, making sure that everyone has

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Speaker 2: the support they need. How does he manage his bowlers

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Speaker 2: when he doesn't really know as much about them as

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Speaker 2: perhaps some of the others he's captained. We'll ask all

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Speaker 2: these questions when he joins us. Shortly. I'll get you

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Speaker 2: inside the Wellington Phoenix women's camp ahead of their match

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Speaker 2: this afternoon against Melbourne City. This is a team they've

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Speaker 2: never beaten. In fact, in seven previous matches they've lost

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Speaker 2: all seven. They've never even taken a point off Melbourne City.

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Speaker 2: But this afternoon got a funny feeling at potty to

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01:23:03,187 --> 01:23:05,267
Speaker 2: a park that might be about to change. Are they

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01:23:05,307 --> 01:23:07,347
Speaker 2: got a new striker too? Cayler Woods is her name.

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Speaker 2: She's on the show Coach BEF Priestman as well. And

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01:23:10,307 --> 01:23:13,067
Speaker 2: we'll get the thoughts of Steve Corricker after a very

1539
01:23:13,147 --> 01:23:14,987
Speaker 2: very good win for his side last night away at

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01:23:14,987 --> 01:23:17,787
Speaker 2: Brisbane to go five points clear at the top of

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01:23:17,827 --> 01:23:21,227
Speaker 2: the A League Men's ladder. We'll keep eyes on christ

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Speaker 2: Church as well. Hagleyoval, a very warm Hagleyoval that Northwest

1543
01:23:25,507 --> 01:23:29,587
Speaker 2: no doubt kicking in but still thirty degrees plus down there.

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01:23:29,667 --> 01:23:32,467
Speaker 2: The Canterbury Magicians have won the toss. They have sent

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01:23:32,507 --> 01:23:36,827
Speaker 2: the Auckland Hearts into bat. This is super smash, women's action,

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01:23:36,947 --> 01:23:40,827
Speaker 2: the men's game. To follow. Your calls and correspondence continue

1547
01:23:40,867 --> 01:23:43,027
Speaker 2: to be welcome on any subject. Oh eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty nine two ninety two is the number

1549
01:23:45,787 --> 01:23:48,187
Speaker 2: for your text messages. You can send emails to Jason

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01:23:48,467 --> 01:23:51,867
Speaker 2: at NEWSTALKSEB dot co dot NZ. But we've gone past

1551
01:23:51,947 --> 01:23:54,307
Speaker 2: nine past two, so we're running late for one of

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01:23:54,307 --> 01:23:56,747
Speaker 2: the features that some people just tune in for just

1553
01:23:56,827 --> 01:24:00,267
Speaker 2: this and nothing else. In case you missed it is

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01:24:00,307 --> 01:24:02,187
Speaker 2: what we call it. It catches you up on some

1555
01:24:02,227 --> 01:24:06,827
Speaker 2: of the sport that's happened, maybe outside your sphere of consciousness.

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01:24:06,907 --> 01:24:11,467
Speaker 2: The Breakers, the Breakers, and the air and the words

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Speaker 2: of Andy McDonald have been handed a fresh canner will

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01:24:14,627 --> 01:24:20,107
Speaker 2: pass at the hands of the Sydney Kings. Okay, I

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01:24:20,107 --> 01:24:23,787
Speaker 2: already seeks of activity on offers the glass. You can

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01:24:23,827 --> 01:24:24,707
Speaker 2: I already see that.

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Speaker 10: You're fucking from JEP fifty five to ninety two US

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01:24:29,347 --> 01:24:33,747
Speaker 10: A dominance from the Sydney Kings under man, no worries.

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01:24:33,427 --> 01:24:35,827
Speaker 2: At all, not a dominance was right the Breakers going

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Speaker 2: down at home to the Sydney Kings one O three

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Speaker 2: sixty two. Auckland f C fared a lot better. Has

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Speaker 2: just mentioned solidifying their hold on top spot a two

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Speaker 2: nil A league went over Brisbane. Thanks when your team

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Speaker 2: is challenging near the top, here's Brook.

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Speaker 14: It's true levelous Lackland Brook, the hot bruce in any

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Speaker 14: league right now shows us exactly.

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Speaker 2: Why l two Auckland f C there to super smash cricket,

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01:25:08,307 --> 01:25:11,507
Speaker 2: the Blaze scrapping their way to a win over the Sparks.

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Speaker 6: Last overs can get a bit jittery, calm any nerves.

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01:25:14,827 --> 01:25:15,547
Speaker 2: Schools are tied.

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Speaker 7: Just one run needed to win, my Lord minor palpitations,

1576
01:25:19,787 --> 01:25:20,187
Speaker 7: but it.

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Speaker 2: Is going to cross the boundary rope and those are

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01:25:22,827 --> 01:25:26,707
Speaker 2: the winning runs for the Blaze. But the Vaults got

1579
01:25:26,707 --> 01:25:29,387
Speaker 2: one back for the Southerners and the men's match, jack

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Speaker 2: Boyle leading the way with a blazing seventy one to

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01:25:32,667 --> 01:25:34,467
Speaker 2: help the Vaults beak the five birds.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, turning for two and here makes it comfortably

1583
01:25:39,427 --> 01:25:41,787
Speaker 7: and that is a fifty for Jack Boyle.

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01:25:43,067 --> 01:25:46,827
Speaker 2: Short pulled all the way for six. Jack Boyle with

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01:25:46,947 --> 01:25:51,467
Speaker 2: his second six, terrific shot and Libby Cacacci has found

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Speaker 2: himself on the score sheet for Rixam for the very

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Speaker 2: first time.

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Speaker 15: No foul, decent shot and it's even better than a

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Speaker 15: decent shot. It's the opening car of the Cutsie Everato

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Speaker 15: cut cuts for Rickson who have left off. They're the

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Speaker 15: Fake Cup.

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Speaker 2: It turned out to be part of a famous FA

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01:26:10,827 --> 01:26:15,427
Speaker 2: Cup win on penalties for Wrexham over Premier League Nottingham

1594
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Speaker 2: for a third round drama.

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Speaker 7: Oh He's missed it.

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01:26:18,947 --> 01:26:24,627
Speaker 15: It's saved by Arthur Conker to secure a famous victory

1597
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Speaker 15: at the race course for the Red Dragons of Wrexham.

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Speaker 15: The championship side have Peter last season semi finalists Nottingham Forest.

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Speaker 1: The Scoon from the track Field and the Court. On

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Speaker 1: your Home of Sport Weekend, Sport with Jason Vine talks.

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01:26:44,547 --> 01:26:48,267
Speaker 2: B a very busy time coming up for the black Caps.

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01:26:48,507 --> 01:26:51,427
Speaker 2: Tomorrow night they will play the first of three One

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01:26:51,507 --> 01:26:55,547
Speaker 2: Day internationals against India. That'll be followed by five T

1604
01:26:55,747 --> 01:26:59,707
Speaker 2: twenty Internationals, the last of those on the first of February,

1605
01:26:59,907 --> 01:27:03,027
Speaker 2: and then straight into the T twenty World Cup, also

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01:27:03,267 --> 01:27:07,387
Speaker 2: in India. New Zealand's first pall match is again Afghanistan

1607
01:27:07,587 --> 01:27:10,467
Speaker 2: on the eighth of February. The Odie I squad has,

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01:27:10,547 --> 01:27:13,587
Speaker 2: as I mentioned before, a fresh faced look about it

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01:27:13,907 --> 01:27:16,987
Speaker 2: Central Districts and New Zealand. A left arm orthodox bowler,

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01:27:17,107 --> 01:27:19,947
Speaker 2: Jaden Lennox has earned his first call up to a

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01:27:19,947 --> 01:27:22,947
Speaker 2: Black Cap squad. Interesting hearing his thoughts on the All

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Speaker 2: Sports Breakfast with Nick Buley this morning. He is joined

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01:27:25,867 --> 01:27:30,507
Speaker 2: by the uncapped Christian Clark and emerging internationals Addie Ashock,

1614
01:27:30,907 --> 01:27:35,867
Speaker 2: Josh Clarkson, Nick Kelly and recent test debutante Michael Ray.

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01:27:36,227 --> 01:27:39,067
Speaker 2: There is though a degree of experience there as well,

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01:27:39,107 --> 01:27:42,827
Speaker 2: Devin Conway, Henry Nichols, Daryl Mitchell, Will Young. They're all

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01:27:42,867 --> 01:27:47,267
Speaker 2: included along with captain Michael Bracewell. On side inside the circle.

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01:27:48,467 --> 01:27:54,747
Speaker 7: Good boom god six stunning, stunning sanctuary from Michael Bradsworth.

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01:27:55,027 --> 01:27:57,867
Speaker 7: Doesn't matter what color shirt you're wearing. The stand up

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01:27:57,867 --> 01:28:01,667
Speaker 7: an applaud as it's crowdier and Hadra Bag is doing and.

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01:28:01,747 --> 01:28:07,147
Speaker 2: That's swung only on side hospair. So six of the

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01:28:07,187 --> 01:28:11,787
Speaker 2: first word from bres Wallen. That's one for another six.

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01:28:14,307 --> 01:28:21,147
Speaker 2: Every time he makes contact the world disappears. Struck another six.

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01:28:22,227 --> 01:28:27,507
Speaker 2: That's a massive strike on the off site and it's

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Speaker 2: six fastball. He's pactic way back into the crowd. Hey,

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Speaker 2: those are some of Michael Bracewell's greatest hits. He's joined

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Speaker 2: us now. Michael, thanks for taking the time. How are

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01:28:37,827 --> 01:28:41,147
Speaker 2: you feeling ahead of leading what is a relatively new

1629
01:28:41,227 --> 01:28:45,067
Speaker 2: look side into three fifty over matches against India.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, really excited and it's good to be over here

1631
01:28:48,267 --> 01:28:52,627
Speaker 9: in India and we taste again of the of the

1632
01:28:52,747 --> 01:28:55,187
Speaker 9: crowds and things like that. So yeah, we're really excited

1633
01:28:55,227 --> 01:28:58,347
Speaker 9: as a group to get out here and get this

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01:28:58,627 --> 01:28:59,747
Speaker 9: odio series underwear.

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Speaker 2: With more new faces in the squad than there might

1636
01:29:03,107 --> 01:29:06,387
Speaker 2: ordinarily be and some potential debutants in this format. Do

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01:29:06,387 --> 01:29:09,227
Speaker 2: you feel an extra sense of energy and excitement around

1638
01:29:09,267 --> 01:29:09,547
Speaker 2: the group?

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01:29:10,907 --> 01:29:13,907
Speaker 9: Absolutely? Yeah, the guys are. The guys are fizzing to

1640
01:29:13,947 --> 01:29:16,907
Speaker 9: get out there. It's a very unique opportunity to come

1641
01:29:16,987 --> 01:29:21,027
Speaker 9: over here and play cricket. It's a it's a unique

1642
01:29:21,067 --> 01:29:23,907
Speaker 9: experience and one that the guys are really looking forward to.

1643
01:29:24,267 --> 01:29:26,827
Speaker 2: Can I ask about Addie Ashock in particular. Born in

1644
01:29:26,907 --> 01:29:30,027
Speaker 2: the law in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu, his

1645
01:29:30,147 --> 01:29:31,987
Speaker 2: family moved to New Zealand when he was four years old.

1646
01:29:32,027 --> 01:29:34,587
Speaker 2: Can you sense in him some extra excitement as he

1647
01:29:34,707 --> 01:29:37,347
Speaker 2: prepares to play against India and India bit of a

1648
01:29:37,387 --> 01:29:38,627
Speaker 2: full circle moment for him.

1649
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it must have been a really special time for him,

1650
01:29:41,547 --> 01:29:45,067
Speaker 9: I think, But I don't know if I can sense

1651
01:29:45,107 --> 01:29:45,947
Speaker 9: any extra.

1652
01:29:47,347 --> 01:29:48,227
Speaker 4: I guess excitement.

1653
01:29:48,267 --> 01:29:51,027
Speaker 9: I think the whole squad is very excited about the

1654
01:29:52,187 --> 01:29:54,787
Speaker 9: the opportunity to come over here and take on the

1655
01:29:55,307 --> 01:29:57,907
Speaker 9: number one oder team in the world, so yeah, I

1656
01:29:57,947 --> 01:30:02,067
Speaker 9: think it would it would be it would be unfair

1657
01:30:02,147 --> 01:30:06,227
Speaker 9: to say that he's overly excited. I think, yeah, there's

1658
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Speaker 9: there's a natural buzz around the whole group.

1659
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Speaker 2: India have named a fairly formidable squad for this series.

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01:30:11,707 --> 01:30:14,267
Speaker 2: As you say, they're the number one fifty overside in

1661
01:30:14,347 --> 01:30:16,827
Speaker 2: the world. How big a challenge will they present for

1662
01:30:17,507 --> 01:30:20,347
Speaker 2: a relatively inexperienced black Cap squad.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they're a fantastic side, and particularly in their home condition,

1664
01:30:25,707 --> 01:30:29,987
Speaker 9: so it's going to be a huge challenge. But ultimately

1665
01:30:30,467 --> 01:30:32,867
Speaker 9: that's what you want to play international cricket for, is

1666
01:30:32,947 --> 01:30:36,187
Speaker 9: to play the best in their familiar conditions and really

1667
01:30:36,267 --> 01:30:40,147
Speaker 9: test yourself. So yeah, we're excited and looking forward to

1668
01:30:40,187 --> 01:30:44,347
Speaker 9: the opportunity. We've certainly got some talented players over here

1669
01:30:44,427 --> 01:30:46,947
Speaker 9: as well, so yeah, we'll be looking to fight far afar.

1670
01:30:47,387 --> 01:30:49,267
Speaker 2: On the bowling side of things, Michael, with a number

1671
01:30:49,307 --> 01:30:53,267
Speaker 2: of Newish bowlers, how will you go about managing your

1672
01:30:53,307 --> 01:30:56,027
Speaker 2: attack through the fifty overs of a bowling innings.

1673
01:30:57,267 --> 01:30:58,747
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a challenge.

1674
01:30:58,787 --> 01:30:59,187
Speaker 13: I think.

1675
01:31:01,227 --> 01:31:03,907
Speaker 9: Traditionally they're quite batter friendly wickets over here as well,

1676
01:31:04,027 --> 01:31:06,987
Speaker 9: so I think we'll have to we'll have to chop

1677
01:31:07,027 --> 01:31:07,907
Speaker 9: and change a little bit.

1678
01:31:07,907 --> 01:31:10,107
Speaker 4: And rarely try and target matchups that we can.

1679
01:31:11,307 --> 01:31:14,867
Speaker 9: I think another important part is, particularly in fifty over cricket,

1680
01:31:14,987 --> 01:31:17,227
Speaker 9: is when you get a when you do get a wicket,

1681
01:31:17,387 --> 01:31:22,107
Speaker 9: being able to challenge and put pressure on the new

1682
01:31:22,147 --> 01:31:24,907
Speaker 9: batsman coming in and hopefully get a couple of wickets

1683
01:31:24,947 --> 01:31:27,547
Speaker 9: in a row as ultimately what stems the flow over

1684
01:31:27,627 --> 01:31:27,947
Speaker 9: one day.

1685
01:31:27,987 --> 01:31:31,187
Speaker 2: And if you got a sense from the bowlers at

1686
01:31:31,187 --> 01:31:34,147
Speaker 2: your disposal where they like to bowl the most in

1687
01:31:34,187 --> 01:31:36,067
Speaker 2: a fifty over game, where you think they might be

1688
01:31:36,187 --> 01:31:38,667
Speaker 2: best suited you know, witch overs to bowl in a

1689
01:31:38,707 --> 01:31:40,387
Speaker 2: fifty over match, if you kind of got a good

1690
01:31:40,427 --> 01:31:42,747
Speaker 2: handle on that, having not played I guess with some

1691
01:31:42,867 --> 01:31:43,667
Speaker 2: of them very often.

1692
01:31:44,747 --> 01:31:46,347
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's something that we're going to have

1693
01:31:46,427 --> 01:31:49,907
Speaker 9: to figure out pretty quickly, Piney. It's one of those

1694
01:31:49,947 --> 01:31:54,427
Speaker 9: things those can discussions are ongoing over the next couple

1695
01:31:54,467 --> 01:31:57,427
Speaker 9: of days, and yeah, hopefully we can we can sort

1696
01:31:57,427 --> 01:32:00,067
Speaker 9: of come together nicely and ngel as a bowling unit.

1697
01:32:00,187 --> 01:32:03,827
Speaker 9: And I'm not putting guys in situations that they haven't

1698
01:32:03,827 --> 01:32:08,387
Speaker 9: been in before, but yeah, that's also that's also part

1699
01:32:08,427 --> 01:32:10,747
Speaker 9: of being a team as sometimes you get asked the

1700
01:32:10,907 --> 01:32:13,587
Speaker 9: things that you're perhaps not as comfortable as you usually

1701
01:32:13,667 --> 01:32:15,747
Speaker 9: are in and you've just got to take it in

1702
01:32:15,827 --> 01:32:16,507
Speaker 9: your strat.

1703
01:32:16,547 --> 01:32:19,067
Speaker 2: And what about the dynamic of you being captain but

1704
01:32:19,147 --> 01:32:21,467
Speaker 2: also being an important part of this bowling attack. I

1705
01:32:21,507 --> 01:32:23,827
Speaker 2: mean when Mitch Stanton is the captain, for example, he

1706
01:32:23,947 --> 01:32:26,027
Speaker 2: just tells you when to bowl, how do you work

1707
01:32:26,107 --> 01:32:28,947
Speaker 2: out when is the best time to bowl in amongst

1708
01:32:29,147 --> 01:32:31,907
Speaker 2: all the other captaincy responsibility you have.

1709
01:32:33,347 --> 01:32:35,107
Speaker 4: Yeah, you try not to overthink it too much.

1710
01:32:35,227 --> 01:32:38,267
Speaker 9: I think if you if you if you plan too

1711
01:32:38,387 --> 01:32:41,787
Speaker 9: hard and have too much structure, then perhaps you get

1712
01:32:41,787 --> 01:32:44,827
Speaker 9: a little bit rigid in your approach. So I think

1713
01:32:45,547 --> 01:32:47,467
Speaker 9: you get a good sense, Like we've all played a

1714
01:32:47,547 --> 01:32:51,227
Speaker 9: lot of cricket now as as a team, I think,

1715
01:32:52,227 --> 01:32:57,107
Speaker 9: whether it's domestically or internationally, So those moments sort of

1716
01:32:57,227 --> 01:32:59,587
Speaker 9: just come to you and yeah, you've just got to

1717
01:32:59,907 --> 01:33:01,587
Speaker 9: back back your instinct a little bit.

1718
01:33:01,667 --> 01:33:03,427
Speaker 2: Well, it's not your first radio, of course, your captain

1719
01:33:03,427 --> 01:33:06,147
Speaker 2: new yelling against Pakistan in a three match odo ice

1720
01:33:06,147 --> 01:33:08,107
Speaker 2: here back end of the last home summer. You've been

1721
01:33:08,147 --> 01:33:10,147
Speaker 2: skipper of the T twenty side over a dozen times.

1722
01:33:10,187 --> 01:33:13,027
Speaker 2: Now do you take your lead from Mitchell Santner or

1723
01:33:13,107 --> 01:33:15,187
Speaker 2: have you developed your own leadership style.

1724
01:33:16,947 --> 01:33:18,427
Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit of both. Planny.

1725
01:33:18,507 --> 01:33:23,987
Speaker 9: I think you want that continuity of leadership styles, particularly

1726
01:33:24,027 --> 01:33:27,467
Speaker 9: when you're coming in just for a series, and so

1727
01:33:27,867 --> 01:33:30,427
Speaker 9: you want the guys to be as comfortable as they can.

1728
01:33:30,627 --> 01:33:34,107
Speaker 9: But you also, yeah, you don't want to just you

1729
01:33:34,187 --> 01:33:36,467
Speaker 9: want to be authentic to the way that you lead.

1730
01:33:36,587 --> 01:33:39,947
Speaker 9: So yeah, I hope that I can get a nice

1731
01:33:39,987 --> 01:33:41,507
Speaker 9: balance of both in.

1732
01:33:41,547 --> 01:33:44,987
Speaker 2: The opening match. Is the first men's international at this venue,

1733
01:33:45,067 --> 01:33:48,347
Speaker 2: the Coo Tambi Stadium and Verudara. Have you been able

1734
01:33:48,387 --> 01:33:50,227
Speaker 2: to get a gauge on what the wicket might be like,

1735
01:33:50,307 --> 01:33:51,587
Speaker 2: the ground dimensions, things like that.

1736
01:33:53,307 --> 01:33:58,147
Speaker 9: We had training there yesterday and it looks a big ground. Yeah,

1737
01:33:58,147 --> 01:34:02,027
Speaker 9: it looks like a reasonable, reasonable surface, but again it's

1738
01:34:02,067 --> 01:34:04,467
Speaker 9: pretty It's pretty hard to tell a couple of days out,

1739
01:34:04,587 --> 01:34:08,427
Speaker 9: so we'll keep monitoring that. But I heard that it's

1740
01:34:08,467 --> 01:34:11,267
Speaker 9: a forty thousand seat stadium and it's sold out within

1741
01:34:11,307 --> 01:34:13,627
Speaker 9: a couple of minutes of the game being announced. So

1742
01:34:15,587 --> 01:34:18,067
Speaker 9: it's going to be a pretty exciting opportunity to get

1743
01:34:18,107 --> 01:34:21,987
Speaker 9: out there in front of forty thousand fans and perhaps

1744
01:34:22,027 --> 01:34:24,227
Speaker 9: a new experience for the couple of guys in our group.

1745
01:34:24,067 --> 01:34:27,627
Speaker 2: As well amazing And just before you go following this series,

1746
01:34:27,667 --> 01:34:29,707
Speaker 2: of course, there's no getting away from the fact that

1747
01:34:29,747 --> 01:34:32,427
Speaker 2: it's a busy time T twenty World Cup coming up. Yourself,

1748
01:34:32,507 --> 01:34:34,707
Speaker 2: Devin Conway, Dalell Mitchell, Glen Phillip's going to stay on

1749
01:34:35,387 --> 01:34:37,267
Speaker 2: for the T twenty series that follows this one, then

1750
01:34:37,307 --> 01:34:40,267
Speaker 2: the World Cup after that. How much we'll playing fifty

1751
01:34:40,307 --> 01:34:43,427
Speaker 2: over cricket in India help prepare you for playing T

1752
01:34:43,627 --> 01:34:45,107
Speaker 2: twenty cricket in India.

1753
01:34:46,547 --> 01:34:48,867
Speaker 9: Yeah, every time you can get used to the conditions

1754
01:34:50,227 --> 01:34:54,067
Speaker 9: as hugely beneficial, I think, regardless of the format you're

1755
01:34:54,747 --> 01:34:58,067
Speaker 9: and maybe even even more beneficial than playing twenty twenty

1756
01:34:58,947 --> 01:35:01,187
Speaker 9: to a certain extent, because you get plenty of time

1757
01:35:01,307 --> 01:35:04,627
Speaker 9: to actually adjust to the conditions and figure out the

1758
01:35:04,667 --> 01:35:10,187
Speaker 9: shots that are perhaps lower and higher risk with the

1759
01:35:10,307 --> 01:35:13,707
Speaker 9: time of a fifty over match. And yeah, then we've

1760
01:35:13,747 --> 01:35:17,547
Speaker 9: obviously got a huge twenty twenty series against India as

1761
01:35:17,587 --> 01:35:21,667
Speaker 9: well with five two twenties, So I think the structure

1762
01:35:21,707 --> 01:35:26,067
Speaker 9: of this tour is very well done, obviously leading into

1763
01:35:26,107 --> 01:35:28,827
Speaker 9: that twenty twenty World Cup. But yeah, we're not looking

1764
01:35:28,867 --> 01:35:31,467
Speaker 9: too far ahead at the moment with this big Odia

1765
01:35:31,547 --> 01:35:32,267
Speaker 9: series coming up.

1766
01:35:32,387 --> 01:35:33,787
Speaker 2: All right, well, all the best for that and a

1767
01:35:33,867 --> 01:35:36,387
Speaker 2: busy and exciting period of cricket to come things. As

1768
01:35:36,427 --> 01:35:38,947
Speaker 2: always for chatting, Michael, Jess Funny, thanks for having me, No,

1769
01:35:39,067 --> 01:35:40,867
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us, Michael. Michael Brice will there. He's

1770
01:35:40,867 --> 01:35:43,947
Speaker 2: going to captain the Odie Ice side for these three

1771
01:35:44,187 --> 01:35:46,947
Speaker 2: one day internationals. The first one is tomorrow night. It's

1772
01:35:46,947 --> 01:35:50,027
Speaker 2: a little but a bit difficult viewing wise. They start

1773
01:35:50,027 --> 01:35:51,747
Speaker 2: at nine pm. I guess if you're not working the

1774
01:35:51,827 --> 01:35:54,067
Speaker 2: next day you could box through the night. The Indian

1775
01:35:54,147 --> 01:35:56,267
Speaker 2: side is absolutely stacked. All of their big guns are

1776
01:35:56,267 --> 01:35:58,947
Speaker 2: there for the New Zealand team though. Here's the team.

1777
01:35:58,987 --> 01:36:02,867
Speaker 2: Michael Brace was the captain, Eddie Airshock, Christian Clark, Josh Clarkson,

1778
01:36:03,147 --> 01:36:06,827
Speaker 2: Devin Conway, Zac Folks, Mitch Hay, Kyle Jamison, Nick Kelly,

1779
01:36:07,067 --> 01:36:10,227
Speaker 2: Jaden Lennox, Daryl Mitchell, Henry Nichols, Glenn Phillips, Michael Ray

1780
01:36:10,547 --> 01:36:13,267
Speaker 2: and Will Young. So yeah, a sprinkling of experience there

1781
01:36:13,627 --> 01:36:15,707
Speaker 2: and a good leadership group around Michael Brace. Well, but

1782
01:36:15,787 --> 01:36:19,267
Speaker 2: another you know, another opportunity for some of these and

1783
01:36:19,347 --> 01:36:20,947
Speaker 2: some of them I was gonna say Young players. Michael

1784
01:36:21,027 --> 01:36:24,187
Speaker 2: Ray's thirty. You know he got that Test debut against

1785
01:36:24,187 --> 01:36:26,587
Speaker 2: the West Indies and now here he is playing ODIO

1786
01:36:26,707 --> 01:36:28,747
Speaker 2: cricket as well. But some of the younger guys Addie

1787
01:36:28,747 --> 01:36:32,027
Speaker 2: Ashok we mentioned in the chat there, Mitch Hay another

1788
01:36:32,067 --> 01:36:34,907
Speaker 2: opportunity for him to keep wicket for New Zealand. I'm

1789
01:36:34,907 --> 01:36:37,667
Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing how this all plays out when

1790
01:36:37,707 --> 01:36:39,307
Speaker 2: the ODII is so maybe this isn't such a bad

1791
01:36:39,347 --> 01:36:41,827
Speaker 2: idea to have these. Then it's the five T twenty

1792
01:36:41,907 --> 01:36:44,667
Speaker 2: internationals against India ahead of the T twenty World Cup

1793
01:36:44,747 --> 01:36:48,427
Speaker 2: in India. That is great preparation. Whoever's organized that from

1794
01:36:48,467 --> 01:36:50,707
Speaker 2: a New Zealand cricket point of view needs a huge

1795
01:36:50,747 --> 01:36:54,307
Speaker 2: pat on the back. Five T twenty internationals against India

1796
01:36:54,427 --> 01:36:58,307
Speaker 2: before the T twenty World Cup terrific. Just been alluded

1797
01:36:58,347 --> 01:37:02,067
Speaker 2: to something Wendy has just sent through a text a

1798
01:37:02,147 --> 01:37:05,827
Speaker 2: beautiful post on the run alt Dedua facebook page. A

1799
01:37:05,947 --> 01:37:10,067
Speaker 2: mum at the Colgate Games had requested a runner to

1800
01:37:10,147 --> 01:37:13,147
Speaker 2: accompany her twelve year old son in his race. He

1801
01:37:13,307 --> 01:37:18,747
Speaker 2: is vision impaired, his usual support person was unwell. The

1802
01:37:18,867 --> 01:37:22,827
Speaker 2: call went out and there was great excitement when Sam

1803
01:37:23,067 --> 01:37:26,987
Speaker 2: Ruth arrived to run with the boy by the name

1804
01:37:27,027 --> 01:37:32,347
Speaker 2: of Tomahoe. Imagine that, so Tamahoe was guided by New

1805
01:37:32,467 --> 01:37:36,867
Speaker 2: Zealand's rising track and field star Sam Ruth and goes

1806
01:37:36,907 --> 01:37:39,707
Speaker 2: on to say that Tomahoe beat his peb by almost

1807
01:37:39,827 --> 01:37:44,347
Speaker 2: forty seconds, winning the power fifteen hundred meters. What a

1808
01:37:44,467 --> 01:37:49,067
Speaker 2: thrill for the young lad and what another demonstration of

1809
01:37:49,147 --> 01:37:52,107
Speaker 2: the character of Sam Ruth. We all know what a

1810
01:37:52,147 --> 01:37:54,907
Speaker 2: wonderful runner he already is, but to turn up and

1811
01:37:55,427 --> 01:37:58,467
Speaker 2: do that amazing. And there's some call photos on a

1812
01:37:58,507 --> 01:38:01,867
Speaker 2: Facebook page I've been sent the link to of Tomahoe

1813
01:38:01,987 --> 01:38:05,507
Speaker 2: and Sam and then all of Tomahoe's very excited friends

1814
01:38:05,707 --> 01:38:09,747
Speaker 2: or crowding round and getting their photo taken with Sam Ruth.

1815
01:38:09,987 --> 01:38:15,067
Speaker 2: Awesome stuff, very very cool. News Talks heb and Weekends

1816
01:38:15,067 --> 01:38:16,947
Speaker 2: Sport will flick our attention back to football when we

1817
01:38:17,067 --> 01:38:19,747
Speaker 2: come back to twenty four. Just a quick update from

1818
01:38:19,867 --> 01:38:23,627
Speaker 2: christ Church where the Auckland Hearts are batting first against

1819
01:38:23,667 --> 01:38:29,187
Speaker 2: the Canterbury Magicians as he gazes out for eight Pru

1820
01:38:29,347 --> 01:38:33,507
Speaker 2: Catton and Brook Halliday together and Auckland are thirty for

1821
01:38:33,627 --> 01:38:37,707
Speaker 2: one in the fourth over, batting first against the Canterbury

1822
01:38:37,787 --> 01:38:40,027
Speaker 2: Magicians in christ Church as I say back in a

1823
01:38:40,027 --> 01:38:41,987
Speaker 2: sec talking some more football the.

1824
01:38:42,107 --> 01:38:45,987
Speaker 1: Tough questions after Turf Weekends for It with Jason Pine

1825
01:38:46,067 --> 01:38:49,907
Speaker 1: and GJ. Garnnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

1826
01:38:49,667 --> 01:38:53,227
Speaker 2: News Talks, MB News Talks, HEB and Weekend Sport two

1827
01:38:53,307 --> 01:38:56,307
Speaker 2: twenty seven. The Wellington Phoenix Women have a massive match

1828
01:38:56,387 --> 01:39:00,547
Speaker 2: this afternoon against Melbourne City at Pottydoor Park and in

1829
01:39:00,627 --> 01:39:03,627
Speaker 2: a boost to the side, they this week signed American

1830
01:39:03,747 --> 01:39:07,387
Speaker 2: forward Mikayla Woods as an in jury replacement for the

1831
01:39:07,467 --> 01:39:10,787
Speaker 2: rest of the season. She joined after Dutch midfield of

1832
01:39:10,867 --> 01:39:14,587
Speaker 2: Tessel Midach suffered a season ending knee injury in the

1833
01:39:14,787 --> 01:39:18,307
Speaker 2: very first match of the season. I spoke with Mikayla

1834
01:39:18,347 --> 01:39:20,347
Speaker 2: Woods during the week and asked how the move to

1835
01:39:20,427 --> 01:39:21,827
Speaker 2: Wellington had come about.

1836
01:39:22,627 --> 01:39:25,987
Speaker 13: So I finished my rookie year in October, spent some

1837
01:39:26,107 --> 01:39:30,227
Speaker 13: time in America just training, and then my agents reached

1838
01:39:30,227 --> 01:39:34,627
Speaker 13: out and said that BEV was interested, and I was like, heck, yeah,

1839
01:39:34,707 --> 01:39:35,027
Speaker 13: let's go.

1840
01:39:35,267 --> 01:39:35,507
Speaker 9: Like I.

1841
01:39:37,707 --> 01:39:40,307
Speaker 13: New Zealand, like that's so fun. And I think this

1842
01:39:40,507 --> 01:39:42,747
Speaker 13: is like a beautiful country and I think the A League.

1843
01:39:43,027 --> 01:39:45,307
Speaker 13: I've had friends play here and I think it's great. Competition,

1844
01:39:45,467 --> 01:39:47,947
Speaker 13: and I think it's a great next step and honestly

1845
01:39:48,027 --> 01:39:48,907
Speaker 13: just a great opportunity.

1846
01:39:49,427 --> 01:39:52,227
Speaker 2: So you played what most recently in Iceland? Is that right?

1847
01:39:52,267 --> 01:39:53,587
Speaker 2: Can you tell us about that experience?

1848
01:39:54,387 --> 01:39:58,067
Speaker 13: It was very interesting, very different going from America to Iceland.

1849
01:39:58,867 --> 01:40:01,227
Speaker 13: But I wouldn't have traded for anything. I think it

1850
01:40:01,307 --> 01:40:03,947
Speaker 13: was a perfect rookie year. I think it was really

1851
01:40:03,987 --> 01:40:05,387
Speaker 13: good to get your foot in the door. I got

1852
01:40:06,427 --> 01:40:10,147
Speaker 13: lot of playing time, I learned some things and learned

1853
01:40:10,187 --> 01:40:12,347
Speaker 13: how like professional soccer and kind of how that works

1854
01:40:12,427 --> 01:40:15,307
Speaker 13: coming from college into that new world. So I think

1855
01:40:15,347 --> 01:40:17,987
Speaker 13: it was a good first step and I enjoyed the play.

1856
01:40:17,987 --> 01:40:18,667
Speaker 13: I thought it was good.

1857
01:40:19,187 --> 01:40:21,147
Speaker 2: So what kind of player are we getting here at

1858
01:40:21,187 --> 01:40:23,907
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix. Tell us what the fans will see from

1859
01:40:24,387 --> 01:40:24,667
Speaker 2: from you?

1860
01:40:26,747 --> 01:40:30,987
Speaker 13: Hopefully hopefully some some goals, hopefully, But I would think

1861
01:40:30,987 --> 01:40:33,347
Speaker 13: I'm probably a big personality. I like to have a

1862
01:40:33,427 --> 01:40:37,867
Speaker 13: lot of fun, and I'm pretty intense, pretty competitive, and

1863
01:40:39,387 --> 01:40:42,507
Speaker 13: you know, being in America, it's like really fast, athletic,

1864
01:40:42,707 --> 01:40:45,707
Speaker 13: strong type of soccer. So hoping to bring that to

1865
01:40:45,787 --> 01:40:48,107
Speaker 13: the A League and kind of see how that goes

1866
01:40:48,187 --> 01:40:52,067
Speaker 13: up against these American Oh my gosh, these amazing Australian

1867
01:40:52,107 --> 01:40:53,907
Speaker 13: players and just I'm really excited.

1868
01:40:54,307 --> 01:40:55,987
Speaker 2: Well you'll fit on well here, I'm sure the fans

1869
01:40:55,987 --> 01:40:56,387
Speaker 2: will love you.

1870
01:40:56,467 --> 01:40:56,547
Speaker 6: Now.

1871
01:40:56,627 --> 01:40:59,347
Speaker 2: Is it true that you were growing up a defender.

1872
01:40:59,707 --> 01:41:03,307
Speaker 2: How did the move to become a teching player come about?

1873
01:41:04,067 --> 01:41:04,107
Speaker 12: So?

1874
01:41:04,267 --> 01:41:05,827
Speaker 13: I was a defender of my entire life. I was

1875
01:41:06,667 --> 01:41:08,987
Speaker 13: an outside back, like a left back on the left side,

1876
01:41:09,427 --> 01:41:11,467
Speaker 13: so I was used to, you know, going up and down,

1877
01:41:11,587 --> 01:41:15,427
Speaker 13: so being offensive isn't quite too new to me. But

1878
01:41:15,507 --> 01:41:17,947
Speaker 13: then I went to college and it was a really

1879
01:41:17,987 --> 01:41:21,307
Speaker 13: big transition going from you know, little league to like

1880
01:41:21,507 --> 01:41:25,347
Speaker 13: college soccer because that's like huge in America. And my

1881
01:41:25,467 --> 01:41:27,587
Speaker 13: coach was like, I think we should put you up there.

1882
01:41:27,627 --> 01:41:29,507
Speaker 13: I feel like it'll let you be a little bit

1883
01:41:29,547 --> 01:41:32,027
Speaker 13: more free, not worry about mistakes, because when you're a defender,

1884
01:41:32,147 --> 01:41:33,907
Speaker 13: like mistakes are kind of do or die, you know,

1885
01:41:34,067 --> 01:41:35,907
Speaker 13: one bat mistake, the balls in the back of the net.

1886
01:41:36,667 --> 01:41:39,267
Speaker 13: So she put me up there and I've been there

1887
01:41:39,267 --> 01:41:40,667
Speaker 13: ever since. So yeah, it's been amazing.

1888
01:41:40,867 --> 01:41:44,107
Speaker 2: You know, I miss the defense of brief the you know,

1889
01:41:44,187 --> 01:41:48,147
Speaker 2: the competitiveness of defending you know across an auntument up period.

1890
01:41:49,307 --> 01:41:52,707
Speaker 13: You know, scoring goals is pretty cool, like that's pretty

1891
01:41:52,787 --> 01:41:56,027
Speaker 13: like that's pretty awesome. But I do I do miss

1892
01:41:56,267 --> 01:41:59,547
Speaker 13: I do miss defending, but it's not like we don't

1893
01:41:59,587 --> 01:42:01,747
Speaker 13: defend us forwards. It's just a little bit different. I

1894
01:42:01,787 --> 01:42:03,707
Speaker 13: actually think that really helps me being a forward. I

1895
01:42:03,747 --> 01:42:06,627
Speaker 13: feel like I can read defenders a little bit because

1896
01:42:06,627 --> 01:42:08,307
Speaker 13: I kind of know what they're thinking being on the

1897
01:42:08,387 --> 01:42:12,707
Speaker 13: other side. But yeah, I really like being a forward

1898
01:42:12,827 --> 01:42:14,947
Speaker 13: and I think it's a lot of fun. So yeah,

1899
01:42:15,027 --> 01:42:16,947
Speaker 13: I do miss it a little bit though, But yeah.

1900
01:42:17,467 --> 01:42:19,667
Speaker 2: Tell us about the conversations you had with Beev about

1901
01:42:19,827 --> 01:42:22,027
Speaker 2: about the club and what she said that convinced you

1902
01:42:22,107 --> 01:42:25,067
Speaker 2: that this was the right Nicks move for you.

1903
01:42:26,427 --> 01:42:29,987
Speaker 13: It's just a culture thing. I'm very big on being

1904
01:42:30,107 --> 01:42:32,987
Speaker 13: around people who all kind of want the same thing.

1905
01:42:33,227 --> 01:42:36,827
Speaker 13: And it's like, because soccer ends at some point, like

1906
01:42:37,067 --> 01:42:39,027
Speaker 13: this ends that. So I think it's important to think

1907
01:42:39,027 --> 01:42:41,147
Speaker 13: about the people you meet and the person you become

1908
01:42:41,787 --> 01:42:43,947
Speaker 13: as you're going through this journey. And I think she

1909
01:42:44,067 --> 01:42:45,747
Speaker 13: was talking about the culture of the team and just

1910
01:42:45,867 --> 01:42:49,227
Speaker 13: like how everyone's together and kind of like it just

1911
01:42:49,267 --> 01:42:51,107
Speaker 13: felt like something you really wanted to be a part of,

1912
01:42:51,307 --> 01:42:53,747
Speaker 13: just culturally and just as a person. And I think

1913
01:42:54,507 --> 01:42:57,347
Speaker 13: as players, when you're happiest as an individual. It only

1914
01:42:57,587 --> 01:42:59,547
Speaker 13: shows on the field as a player too, So for me,

1915
01:42:59,827 --> 01:43:01,827
Speaker 13: the culture part was the huge deal that got me

1916
01:43:01,907 --> 01:43:02,267
Speaker 13: to come here.

1917
01:43:02,707 --> 01:43:05,067
Speaker 2: And you're aware of the travel obviously as well Away

1918
01:43:05,147 --> 01:43:09,147
Speaker 2: Game's role in Australia, so trains tasment international travel. I

1919
01:43:09,507 --> 01:43:11,907
Speaker 2: uik with herm You've just probably flying forty hours to

1920
01:43:11,987 --> 01:43:14,027
Speaker 2: get here from the US, so this will be a braze.

1921
01:43:14,067 --> 01:43:16,027
Speaker 13: Why I know, I think there's nothing worse than the

1922
01:43:16,227 --> 01:43:18,907
Speaker 13: fourteen hour flight with a screaming child next to you,

1923
01:43:20,307 --> 01:43:23,067
Speaker 13: so I think I've seen the worst of it. I'm

1924
01:43:23,107 --> 01:43:25,947
Speaker 13: a little nervous obviously, I think that's different with time

1925
01:43:26,067 --> 01:43:29,107
Speaker 13: changes and flying as much as they do. But I'm

1926
01:43:29,147 --> 01:43:32,027
Speaker 13: honestly just really excited about the opportunity and I think

1927
01:43:32,947 --> 01:43:34,987
Speaker 13: I'll adjust as I go and I think being able

1928
01:43:35,067 --> 01:43:37,747
Speaker 13: to adapt to different things is important. So I think

1929
01:43:37,787 --> 01:43:39,067
Speaker 13: it'll be okay and I'm really excited.

1930
01:43:39,427 --> 01:43:40,947
Speaker 2: And in terms of the standard of the league, have

1931
01:43:41,027 --> 01:43:43,267
Speaker 2: you been able to get a gauge on the standard

1932
01:43:43,307 --> 01:43:44,387
Speaker 2: that you'll be coming into.

1933
01:43:44,827 --> 01:43:47,627
Speaker 13: I think this team just has a high, high standard.

1934
01:43:47,667 --> 01:43:50,027
Speaker 13: I've seen the forwards that are here, Like you know,

1935
01:43:50,147 --> 01:43:52,347
Speaker 13: I got some big shoes to follow. Up with like

1936
01:43:52,427 --> 01:43:54,787
Speaker 13: Samba for example. She's amazing, like one of the best

1937
01:43:54,827 --> 01:43:57,587
Speaker 13: wards I've ever seen. So I think being around players

1938
01:43:57,627 --> 01:44:00,227
Speaker 13: like that would just make me better and just holding

1939
01:44:00,307 --> 01:44:02,267
Speaker 13: me to a high standard. So I really do think

1940
01:44:03,147 --> 01:44:05,307
Speaker 13: that the standards are high and I'm definitely gonna become

1941
01:44:05,347 --> 01:44:08,547
Speaker 13: a better player after this and I'm just really ah,

1942
01:44:08,667 --> 01:44:09,427
Speaker 13: I think it'll be good.

1943
01:44:09,627 --> 01:44:12,787
Speaker 2: That is the voice of Michayla Woods, brand new signing

1944
01:44:12,947 --> 01:44:15,347
Speaker 2: for the Wellington Phoenix. May even see her in action

1945
01:44:15,867 --> 01:44:18,707
Speaker 2: this afternoon when the team takes on Melbourne City at

1946
01:44:18,707 --> 01:44:22,227
Speaker 2: Potidoor Park, kicking off at four. I spoke after Chetnington

1947
01:44:22,267 --> 01:44:25,867
Speaker 2: Michayla with Wellington Phoenix women's coach BF Priestsman and asked her,

1948
01:44:25,907 --> 01:44:27,987
Speaker 2: first of all, what she liked about Michaela Woods that

1949
01:44:28,107 --> 01:44:30,187
Speaker 2: motivated her to bring her to Wellington.

1950
01:44:30,787 --> 01:44:33,387
Speaker 16: I think her profile is quite a direct profile. I

1951
01:44:33,427 --> 01:44:36,707
Speaker 16: think she's percy, she can score guls and you know,

1952
01:44:36,787 --> 01:44:38,827
Speaker 16: I've worked with quite a few players in the past

1953
01:44:38,867 --> 01:44:41,227
Speaker 16: similar to Mikaela, and I think in that they can

1954
01:44:41,307 --> 01:44:43,907
Speaker 16: just bring something different to the attack, open up the

1955
01:44:43,987 --> 01:44:46,547
Speaker 16: game and you know, I have a feel and she's

1956
01:44:46,587 --> 01:44:48,707
Speaker 16: going to play with real confidence and I think you know,

1957
01:44:48,787 --> 01:44:50,987
Speaker 16: whenever you think about strikers, that's what you look for.

1958
01:44:51,467 --> 01:44:53,027
Speaker 16: Someone who can open the game up, someone who can

1959
01:44:53,067 --> 01:44:55,827
Speaker 16: score guls. But also I think she's you know, she's

1960
01:44:55,867 --> 01:44:57,547
Speaker 16: sure of who she is, and I think that's really

1961
01:44:57,587 --> 01:44:58,227
Speaker 16: important for us.

1962
01:44:58,907 --> 01:45:01,387
Speaker 2: How are you able to get a gauge on someone's character.

1963
01:45:01,507 --> 01:45:03,067
Speaker 2: I mean, you can look at all the highlights you like,

1964
01:45:03,187 --> 01:45:04,827
Speaker 2: right and so, well, she's a good player. How do

1965
01:45:04,867 --> 01:45:06,907
Speaker 2: you get a gauge on someone's character now that they're

1966
01:45:06,907 --> 01:45:09,547
Speaker 2: going to fit in well with the existing time here?

1967
01:45:09,987 --> 01:45:12,427
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think conversations, but I also think you know,

1968
01:45:12,707 --> 01:45:14,987
Speaker 16: agents and things like that. I think you have to

1969
01:45:15,027 --> 01:45:16,987
Speaker 16: do your digging on that front. We had them move

1970
01:45:17,027 --> 01:45:20,987
Speaker 16: pretty quickly on Mikayla because you know, the window was closing.

1971
01:45:21,947 --> 01:45:24,307
Speaker 16: But I think, you know, we're going to get the

1972
01:45:24,347 --> 01:45:26,787
Speaker 16: first session out the way today. I think she'll be

1973
01:45:27,267 --> 01:45:29,187
Speaker 16: itching to get out there and kick a ball, and

1974
01:45:29,227 --> 01:45:31,347
Speaker 16: I'm just excited to see, you know, the dynamic of

1975
01:45:31,747 --> 01:45:33,507
Speaker 16: you know, how she fits in with the forwards and

1976
01:45:33,907 --> 01:45:35,387
Speaker 16: what we can use moving forward.

1977
01:45:35,827 --> 01:45:38,787
Speaker 2: You've obviously integrated a lot of plaisant at various teams.

1978
01:45:38,947 --> 01:45:41,707
Speaker 2: Are you able to tell pretty quickly whether someone is

1979
01:45:41,747 --> 01:45:42,187
Speaker 2: a good fit.

1980
01:45:42,787 --> 01:45:44,947
Speaker 16: Yeah, absolutely, and I think so far. You look at

1981
01:45:44,987 --> 01:45:47,267
Speaker 16: the signings that came in a little bit later, someone

1982
01:45:47,347 --> 01:45:49,547
Speaker 16: like Brooke Nunn, I mean at the heart of the team.

1983
01:45:49,627 --> 01:45:49,747
Speaker 6: Now.

1984
01:45:50,227 --> 01:45:52,387
Speaker 16: I think what really helps is what I've seen. I

1985
01:45:52,587 --> 01:45:54,147
Speaker 16: just had a look in the gym this morning. We've

1986
01:45:54,187 --> 01:45:55,827
Speaker 16: got a very together team this year.

1987
01:45:56,467 --> 01:45:57,387
Speaker 2: No clicks on the.

1988
01:45:57,467 --> 01:46:00,067
Speaker 16: Side and everybody's together. And I think, you know, she

1989
01:46:00,947 --> 01:46:03,947
Speaker 16: seems to be already well integrated into the team. And

1990
01:46:03,987 --> 01:46:06,147
Speaker 16: I think with that, personality comes out and I do.

1991
01:46:06,347 --> 01:46:08,827
Speaker 16: I think I'm a big believer of allowing people to

1992
01:46:08,867 --> 01:46:11,067
Speaker 16: be who they are. I don't want robots. I want

1993
01:46:11,147 --> 01:46:13,227
Speaker 16: us to be who we are, and I think that

1994
01:46:13,387 --> 01:46:14,387
Speaker 16: helps people settle in.

1995
01:46:14,547 --> 01:46:16,787
Speaker 13: Right, There's no like this is how you have to be.

1996
01:46:17,067 --> 01:46:18,947
Speaker 16: I think the standards that you have to keep. But

1997
01:46:19,067 --> 01:46:21,787
Speaker 16: I do think everyone's personality is welcome.

1998
01:46:22,107 --> 01:46:24,067
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk some football. Then a too to

1999
01:46:24,307 --> 01:46:26,947
Speaker 2: draw away at Brisbane raw goal on the ninety eighth minute.

2000
01:46:26,947 --> 01:46:28,787
Speaker 2: I guess that one nil down in the ninety seventh

2001
01:46:29,427 --> 01:46:30,387
Speaker 2: you take a point, do you?

2002
01:46:31,067 --> 01:46:32,227
Speaker 1: I am? Yeah.

2003
01:46:32,627 --> 01:46:34,707
Speaker 16: I was for too on down, Yeah I was. I

2004
01:46:34,827 --> 01:46:37,947
Speaker 16: was frustrate because I think our defending standards were a

2005
01:46:37,987 --> 01:46:40,227
Speaker 16: bit off in that game. I think the every team

2006
01:46:40,267 --> 01:46:42,507
Speaker 16: we're playing at the moment seems to change at the

2007
01:46:42,547 --> 01:46:44,907
Speaker 16: last minute their shape against us, so they change and

2008
01:46:44,987 --> 01:46:47,427
Speaker 16: shied things up. So you do a week's work and

2009
01:46:47,507 --> 01:46:49,627
Speaker 16: then you have to very quickly adapt and you've got

2010
01:46:49,667 --> 01:46:51,987
Speaker 16: young players on the team and you're trying to get

2011
01:46:52,027 --> 01:46:53,987
Speaker 16: that message on. So I thought second half we were

2012
01:46:54,067 --> 01:46:57,347
Speaker 16: much better in terms of defending and we had some

2013
01:46:57,467 --> 01:46:59,067
Speaker 16: catching up to do. But I think what I was

2014
01:46:59,147 --> 01:47:02,027
Speaker 16: most pleased about is a taking the point on the road.

2015
01:47:02,107 --> 01:47:05,147
Speaker 16: You have to babe, Brisbane a very good attacking side,

2016
01:47:05,187 --> 01:47:07,347
Speaker 16: and I knew that going into the game, and then

2017
01:47:07,507 --> 01:47:10,107
Speaker 16: just the fight and the spirits. The team never gave

2018
01:47:10,187 --> 01:47:13,187
Speaker 16: up that the minute in which we scored tells you that.

2019
01:47:14,387 --> 01:47:17,667
Speaker 16: And I think the best teams basically cannot have the

2020
01:47:17,747 --> 01:47:19,707
Speaker 16: best game and go and pick up points on the road.

2021
01:47:19,787 --> 01:47:21,787
Speaker 16: And you know, could we have got three, should we

2022
01:47:21,867 --> 01:47:23,907
Speaker 16: have got three? You know, there's a few corners that

2023
01:47:23,987 --> 01:47:25,827
Speaker 16: maybe should have went in as well. But at the

2024
01:47:25,907 --> 01:47:27,667
Speaker 16: end of the day, I'll take a point and take

2025
01:47:27,747 --> 01:47:29,267
Speaker 16: them points off them and move on.

2026
01:47:29,507 --> 01:47:32,227
Speaker 2: All right, to move on to Melbourne City on Saturday.

2027
01:47:32,507 --> 01:47:35,187
Speaker 2: Team the Wellington Phoenix have never taken a point from

2028
01:47:35,267 --> 01:47:39,227
Speaker 2: let alone beaton Hew. Do you approach Melbourne City on Saturday.

2029
01:47:39,947 --> 01:47:41,987
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think we have a reference point from the

2030
01:47:42,027 --> 01:47:43,587
Speaker 16: last time. I thought we did a very good job

2031
01:47:43,667 --> 01:47:47,107
Speaker 16: of denying what they have to offer for large parts

2032
01:47:47,147 --> 01:47:48,587
Speaker 16: of that game, and then we switched off at a

2033
01:47:48,627 --> 01:47:51,467
Speaker 16: critical moment. What I do know about the best teams

2034
01:47:51,507 --> 01:47:54,147
Speaker 16: are sometimes set players are critical in these games. You

2035
01:47:54,227 --> 01:47:56,627
Speaker 16: know it's tight, and then so players will have to

2036
01:47:56,667 --> 01:47:58,987
Speaker 16: be switched onto that this week. But I do think,

2037
01:47:59,067 --> 01:48:01,587
Speaker 16: you know, we have an opportunity I think to get

2038
01:48:01,627 --> 01:48:03,547
Speaker 16: that performance away from home and then to go to

2039
01:48:04,267 --> 01:48:07,067
Speaker 16: Peru Park and you know, without fans base and just

2040
01:48:07,387 --> 01:48:09,747
Speaker 16: the vibe that you get in that place. I'm really

2041
01:48:09,787 --> 01:48:12,107
Speaker 16: hoping that's going to help us on and we have

2042
01:48:12,187 --> 01:48:14,787
Speaker 16: some learnings I think as to what we can build upon.

2043
01:48:14,867 --> 01:48:17,947
Speaker 16: I think we're a better team attacking wise and going

2044
01:48:18,067 --> 01:48:19,907
Speaker 16: forward maybe than what we were when we were there.

2045
01:48:19,907 --> 01:48:21,747
Speaker 16: We were going through a bit of a drought and

2046
01:48:21,867 --> 01:48:24,547
Speaker 16: we've hopefully put that to bed. But yeah, I think

2047
01:48:24,587 --> 01:48:26,267
Speaker 16: I'm going to expect a tough game, but I'm also

2048
01:48:26,387 --> 01:48:27,547
Speaker 16: really excited.

2049
01:48:27,747 --> 01:48:29,587
Speaker 2: Ce j Bot miss the Brisbane game. Can you give

2050
01:48:29,667 --> 01:48:31,587
Speaker 2: us a update on whether she might be available this weekend.

2051
01:48:31,867 --> 01:48:33,587
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it's it's going to be tight. I

2052
01:48:33,667 --> 01:48:35,467
Speaker 16: think you know, you might have seen she picked up

2053
01:48:35,467 --> 01:48:38,067
Speaker 16: a bit of a knee knock, so yeah, that's that's

2054
01:48:38,147 --> 01:48:39,827
Speaker 16: going to be tight for that game and we'll see

2055
01:48:39,947 --> 01:48:40,827
Speaker 16: see where that lands.

2056
01:48:41,187 --> 01:48:43,667
Speaker 2: And it's quite a well. I think all games are big,

2057
01:48:43,747 --> 01:48:46,667
Speaker 2: but following Melbourne City at seeing Canberra, does it feel

2058
01:48:46,707 --> 01:48:49,347
Speaker 2: like kind of a almost a pivotal little Fortnite for you?

2059
01:48:49,987 --> 01:48:52,147
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think there's a big opportunity and this I

2060
01:48:52,227 --> 01:48:54,547
Speaker 16: did see the last week, but there's a bit of

2061
01:48:54,907 --> 01:48:57,267
Speaker 16: a chance to really, you know, get some games. And

2062
01:48:57,347 --> 01:48:59,067
Speaker 16: we took four points on the road, so I've got

2063
01:48:59,147 --> 01:49:00,907
Speaker 16: to be happy with that. But yeah, I think I

2064
01:49:00,987 --> 01:49:03,387
Speaker 16: get excited for these games, right. I think we always

2065
01:49:03,547 --> 01:49:07,027
Speaker 16: seem to perform better against more structured teams. I think,

2066
01:49:07,227 --> 01:49:10,547
Speaker 16: you know, whether it's tactical or you can live your

2067
01:49:10,627 --> 01:49:11,787
Speaker 16: principles a little bit more.

2068
01:49:11,867 --> 01:49:11,907
Speaker 13: So.

2069
01:49:12,187 --> 01:49:14,467
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm excited that the opportunity. But I think Cumbra

2070
01:49:14,867 --> 01:49:17,107
Speaker 16: are flying. You know, I watched them and they're a hungry,

2071
01:49:17,787 --> 01:49:19,667
Speaker 16: hungry team. It won't be an easy game and we've

2072
01:49:19,667 --> 01:49:23,787
Speaker 16: seen that at sky Stadium. So yeah, two big games

2073
01:49:23,827 --> 01:49:25,267
Speaker 16: and a big opportunity ahead of us.

2074
01:49:25,467 --> 01:49:27,747
Speaker 2: That is a BEV Priestsman, head coach of the Wellington

2075
01:49:27,747 --> 01:49:29,747
Speaker 2: Phoenix women's side of here of their game against Melbourne

2076
01:49:29,787 --> 01:49:32,667
Speaker 2: City this afternoon, kicking off at four o'clock. Now, shortly

2077
01:49:32,707 --> 01:49:36,187
Speaker 2: after we finished that chat, news came through that Samba,

2078
01:49:36,467 --> 01:49:40,227
Speaker 2: the Nepalese striker who has been so popular around not

2079
01:49:40,427 --> 01:49:43,267
Speaker 2: just the Wellington Phoenix side, but the entire AID League,

2080
01:49:43,307 --> 01:49:46,347
Speaker 2: with hordes of Nepalese football fans turning up to watch

2081
01:49:46,387 --> 01:49:49,307
Speaker 2: the Phoenix play whenever she is their terrible news that

2082
01:49:49,747 --> 01:49:54,347
Speaker 2: Samba has done her acl and will now miss the

2083
01:49:54,507 --> 01:49:57,787
Speaker 2: rest of this current A League women's season. So I

2084
01:49:57,867 --> 01:50:00,587
Speaker 2: turned the mic back on and chatted to BEV Priestman

2085
01:50:00,667 --> 01:50:03,427
Speaker 2: about that and how much of a blow it was

2086
01:50:03,547 --> 01:50:05,067
Speaker 2: for the player, but also for the team.

2087
01:50:05,907 --> 01:50:09,747
Speaker 16: I think, first and foremost, we recruited an unbelievable human.

2088
01:50:09,787 --> 01:50:12,427
Speaker 16: I think she's probably the most popular player in the team.

2089
01:50:12,507 --> 01:50:15,267
Speaker 16: I think the team lover and adorer, and so I

2090
01:50:15,307 --> 01:50:18,347
Speaker 16: think whenever you get a season ending injury, the first

2091
01:50:18,427 --> 01:50:21,067
Speaker 16: place you go is a human being is the person

2092
01:50:21,147 --> 01:50:23,587
Speaker 16: and I think, you know, I know the team are

2093
01:50:23,587 --> 01:50:27,187
Speaker 16: absolutely devastated. For hours devastated in helping deliver that news.

2094
01:50:28,507 --> 01:50:30,867
Speaker 16: So yeah, I feel gutted for her, but I've seen

2095
01:50:30,867 --> 01:50:33,347
Speaker 16: the hunger in her eyes. We've got for two seasons.

2096
01:50:33,707 --> 01:50:35,467
Speaker 16: She's like, get me back as quick as I can

2097
01:50:35,507 --> 01:50:38,987
Speaker 16: get back. So yeah, I feel deflated. Obviously, I've had

2098
01:50:39,027 --> 01:50:42,907
Speaker 16: twenty four hours now to process the news. But I think,

2099
01:50:43,227 --> 01:50:45,387
Speaker 16: as you've seen with the injuries we have had, players

2100
01:50:45,387 --> 01:50:48,027
Speaker 16: have stepped up. And I think sometimes these things are

2101
01:50:48,067 --> 01:50:50,147
Speaker 16: thrown at you to test you and test the character

2102
01:50:50,267 --> 01:50:50,707
Speaker 16: of the group.

2103
01:50:51,227 --> 01:50:51,787
Speaker 6: Last time we.

2104
01:50:51,867 --> 01:50:54,267
Speaker 16: Were thrown this before Melbourne victory, and I'm hoping that

2105
01:50:54,347 --> 01:50:57,427
Speaker 16: the group really step up and you know, they'll want

2106
01:50:57,427 --> 01:51:00,467
Speaker 16: to get a performance and a result for someone like Samber,

2107
01:51:00,547 --> 01:51:02,787
Speaker 16: and I think that's the opportunity we have ahead of us.

2108
01:51:03,547 --> 01:51:06,147
Speaker 2: As far as the support that she has put you,

2109
01:51:06,587 --> 01:51:09,307
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it will stop. Obviously, she's

2110
01:51:09,347 --> 01:51:15,067
Speaker 2: a huge drawcout for the Nipalese fan base. How amazing

2111
01:51:15,227 --> 01:51:17,867
Speaker 2: has that been wherever you go? Yeah, you've got this

2112
01:51:18,027 --> 01:51:21,147
Speaker 2: whole dozens hundreds of new Phoenix fans.

2113
01:51:21,387 --> 01:51:23,147
Speaker 16: Yeah, well, I were a wear games to be honest,

2114
01:51:23,187 --> 01:51:25,267
Speaker 16: have felt a little bit like home games, particularly a

2115
01:51:25,387 --> 01:51:30,347
Speaker 16: Perth and Western Sydney Wonders. It was incredible. So yeah,

2116
01:51:30,587 --> 01:51:32,867
Speaker 16: you know, I hope that continues in terms of supporting

2117
01:51:32,907 --> 01:51:34,747
Speaker 16: the team that Samber plays for. I know she'll want

2118
01:51:34,787 --> 01:51:38,187
Speaker 16: that to continue. Yeah, it's been immense and I think

2119
01:51:38,627 --> 01:51:40,987
Speaker 16: you know, I've worked with some top players around the world,

2120
01:51:41,067 --> 01:51:43,947
Speaker 16: but you just see your London airport and there's some

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01:51:44,027 --> 01:51:47,827
Speaker 16: Netpolice fans there straight away we're waiting for Samber. So yeah,

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01:51:47,867 --> 01:51:49,867
Speaker 16: I mean in that sense, it's it's a big loss

2123
01:51:49,907 --> 01:51:51,987
Speaker 16: for the team as well, but I know she wants

2124
01:51:52,027 --> 01:51:54,707
Speaker 16: nothing more than the Netpolice community to keep you know,

2125
01:51:54,827 --> 01:51:57,547
Speaker 16: putting on Phoenix jerseys and showing up to the games.

2126
01:51:58,347 --> 01:52:01,027
Speaker 16: And yeah, we hope to put on a good performance

2127
01:52:01,107 --> 01:52:03,427
Speaker 16: and try and do this thing for the lakes of

2128
01:52:03,467 --> 01:52:06,227
Speaker 16: a Samba a test and unlessa some of those seasons

2129
01:52:06,347 --> 01:52:08,067
Speaker 16: and injuries, I.

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01:52:08,107 --> 01:52:10,027
Speaker 2: Mean it's been talked about a lot, and we don't

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01:52:10,067 --> 01:52:13,307
Speaker 2: you know, the AICL. I think this one's different, isn't

2132
01:52:13,307 --> 01:52:15,707
Speaker 2: it that Kep Lanes on her. You know, it's a

2133
01:52:15,787 --> 01:52:18,707
Speaker 2: very different kind of injury. But do acal injuries and

2134
01:52:18,747 --> 01:52:21,307
Speaker 2: the women's game need to continue to be examined in

2135
01:52:21,467 --> 01:52:22,707
Speaker 2: terms of the irregularity.

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01:52:23,027 --> 01:52:25,267
Speaker 16: Absolutely, I think there's more than there's ever been and

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01:52:25,347 --> 01:52:27,747
Speaker 16: I think the intensity of the game is higher than

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01:52:27,787 --> 01:52:30,227
Speaker 16: it's ever been, right, And it's whether or not you know,

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01:52:30,347 --> 01:52:33,107
Speaker 16: in younger parts of players' lives, have they you know,

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01:52:33,267 --> 01:52:36,347
Speaker 16: prehabbed early enough. But I think I feel good in

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01:52:36,427 --> 01:52:39,547
Speaker 16: the sense of, you know, two contact injuries, and Lystenas

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01:52:39,587 --> 01:52:42,587
Speaker 16: obviously wasn't. They're the ones that you're more concerned about.

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01:52:42,627 --> 01:52:44,987
Speaker 16: And I think looking at that, I'm not sure who

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01:52:45,027 --> 01:52:47,547
Speaker 16: would have come out of that. You know, my physios

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01:52:47,867 --> 01:52:50,427
Speaker 16: worked in rugby, and she would describe Samber's injury as

2146
01:52:50,467 --> 01:52:52,947
Speaker 16: more like a rugby knee injury that you would look

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01:52:52,987 --> 01:52:55,227
Speaker 16: to see. So you know, it's tough, it's a challenge.

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01:52:55,267 --> 01:52:58,027
Speaker 16: I think when you're a star player, not just a

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01:52:58,107 --> 01:53:01,067
Speaker 16: star person, you get targeted in games. I'm not saying

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01:53:01,107 --> 01:53:04,307
Speaker 16: the keeper did, but every game we've played Sambas you know,

2151
01:53:04,507 --> 01:53:07,227
Speaker 16: got center backs, Camber and all over it. It comes

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01:53:07,307 --> 01:53:09,587
Speaker 16: in nature of being a top, top player because they

2153
01:53:09,667 --> 01:53:11,627
Speaker 16: know the threat that she can have. But I think

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01:53:11,627 --> 01:53:13,667
Speaker 16: it was very unfortunate. I think, you know, like it's

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01:53:13,747 --> 01:53:15,547
Speaker 16: it's a moment that's in and around the box, and

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01:53:16,067 --> 01:53:18,307
Speaker 16: you know, I think to come out of that, I

2157
01:53:18,387 --> 01:53:21,187
Speaker 16: think deep down probably Samba. I am the physio had

2158
01:53:21,227 --> 01:53:24,187
Speaker 16: that feeling that you know, we could lose Samba here.

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01:53:24,307 --> 01:53:25,707
Speaker 16: So yeah, it's it's difficult.

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01:53:26,107 --> 01:53:28,627
Speaker 2: And you've brought Mikayla and but she's a replacement for taste.

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01:53:28,867 --> 01:53:31,227
Speaker 2: So now I guess do you have the ability to

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01:53:31,347 --> 01:53:33,947
Speaker 2: replace Samber and is there time to do that?

2163
01:53:34,187 --> 01:53:34,387
Speaker 8: Yes?

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01:53:36,667 --> 01:53:39,987
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think you know. Again, club's been great. Yes,

2165
01:53:40,107 --> 01:53:42,067
Speaker 16: we will be looking at recruiting other forward.

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01:53:42,107 --> 01:53:42,227
Speaker 6: Now.

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01:53:42,227 --> 01:53:45,627
Speaker 16: I think there's some restrictions around whether they were registered

2168
01:53:45,667 --> 01:53:47,147
Speaker 16: with the team when the window shut. We have to

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01:53:47,227 --> 01:53:49,587
Speaker 16: find you know, it might be slimmer pickens than maybe

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01:53:49,707 --> 01:53:52,747
Speaker 16: just an open window, but yes, we need to and

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01:53:52,867 --> 01:53:55,427
Speaker 16: we will and we'll be trying to find another forward

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01:53:55,507 --> 01:53:57,787
Speaker 16: that can bring you know, we might not get what

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01:53:57,907 --> 01:54:00,827
Speaker 16: Samba brought, but I think, you know, it's about gelling

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01:54:00,867 --> 01:54:04,027
Speaker 16: the right combination together. Now I think I'm really happy

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01:54:04,067 --> 01:54:07,747
Speaker 16: that Emma Man's found our feet and now we add

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01:54:07,827 --> 01:54:10,067
Speaker 16: Michaela and then fingers crossed, we can get another forward

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01:54:10,107 --> 01:54:11,267
Speaker 16: across the lane very quickly.

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Speaker 2: Is Mikaela Is she more of a wide attack or

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01:54:13,947 --> 01:54:14,867
Speaker 2: could she place in a ford?

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01:54:14,987 --> 01:54:17,267
Speaker 16: No, she could play center forward. I think probably in

2181
01:54:17,707 --> 01:54:21,507
Speaker 16: a front two maybe maybe as a launch striker, but

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01:54:21,627 --> 01:54:24,067
Speaker 16: she's very complete on the left as well, so I

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01:54:24,107 --> 01:54:26,507
Speaker 16: think she'll give us some different options that I need

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01:54:26,587 --> 01:54:28,107
Speaker 16: to tie you around with a little bit and see

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01:54:28,107 --> 01:54:29,907
Speaker 16: how it all sort of meshes together.

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01:54:30,067 --> 01:54:32,587
Speaker 2: That is Beef Priestman, coach of the Wellington Phoenix Woman.

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01:54:32,667 --> 01:54:34,987
Speaker 2: So just repeating four o'clock this afternoon, pottyd or Hark

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01:54:35,267 --> 01:54:37,307
Speaker 2: any one in the Wellington region who wants to catch

2189
01:54:37,347 --> 01:54:39,747
Speaker 2: some A League women's football. That's where you heard pottydor

2190
01:54:39,827 --> 01:54:42,907
Speaker 2: Park this afternoon four o'clock kickoff as the Wellington Phoenix

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01:54:42,987 --> 01:54:46,987
Speaker 2: take on Melbourne City to Hagley Oval, where the Canibary

2192
01:54:47,027 --> 01:54:51,187
Speaker 2: magicians sent to Auckland into bat Auckland are seventy one

2193
01:54:51,747 --> 01:54:56,827
Speaker 2: for one in the tenth over, so going along pretty nicely,

2194
01:54:57,307 --> 01:55:00,947
Speaker 2: Pru Catton thirty four off twenty five in Brooke, Holliday,

2195
01:55:00,987 --> 01:55:03,787
Speaker 2: twenty two of just sixteen deliveries, going along very nicely there,

2196
01:55:03,867 --> 01:55:07,987
Speaker 2: so seventy two for one in the sorry the ninth

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01:55:08,027 --> 01:55:10,267
Speaker 2: over and the ninth over of that game down at

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01:55:10,587 --> 01:55:13,627
Speaker 2: Hagley Oval, Don asks Piney how long has BEV contracted

2199
01:55:13,667 --> 01:55:17,547
Speaker 2: to the Phoenix? Good question, don I think it's two

2200
01:55:17,627 --> 01:55:20,987
Speaker 2: years I'm pretty sure it's two years. I could be wrong,

2201
01:55:21,587 --> 01:55:25,387
Speaker 2: hopefully forever. Very good coach, very good coach. Speaking of

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01:55:25,507 --> 01:55:28,347
Speaker 2: very good coaches, Steve Coricker is one of those. Auckland

2203
01:55:28,467 --> 01:55:31,507
Speaker 2: FC head coach. He watched his team beat Brisbane two

2204
01:55:31,627 --> 01:55:34,587
Speaker 2: nil last night at Suncorp Stadium to increase the leader

2205
01:55:34,587 --> 01:55:36,307
Speaker 2: at the top of the A League ladder to five points.

2206
01:55:36,347 --> 01:55:38,747
Speaker 2: We'll get some of his postmatch thoughts when we come back.

2207
01:55:39,827 --> 01:55:43,347
Speaker 1: The biggest things in thoughts are on Weekend Sports with

2208
01:55:43,547 --> 01:55:47,667
Speaker 1: Jason Paine and TJ Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home

2209
01:55:47,707 --> 01:55:48,987
Speaker 1: builder News Talks.

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01:55:48,827 --> 01:55:52,907
Speaker 2: NB thirteen Away from three. Auckland FC last night are

2211
01:55:53,027 --> 01:55:56,227
Speaker 2: really really impressive when over Brisbane raw tu nil at

2212
01:55:56,307 --> 01:55:57,227
Speaker 2: sun Corp Stadium.

2213
01:55:57,747 --> 01:56:01,587
Speaker 10: How well drilled are Auckland, Donna said pieces in the

2214
01:56:01,627 --> 01:56:02,227
Speaker 10: Swinger and.

2215
01:56:07,107 --> 01:56:12,507
Speaker 14: The English striker will claim it's He's Brook and it's

2216
01:56:12,587 --> 01:56:18,707
Speaker 14: two fidolous Lochland Brook. The hot boots in any league

2217
01:56:18,787 --> 01:56:24,507
Speaker 14: right now shows us exactly why, and the full time

2218
01:56:24,547 --> 01:56:29,747
Speaker 14: whistle sounds Auckland FC consumminate that hold at the top

2219
01:56:30,227 --> 01:56:31,587
Speaker 14: of the I suzu ud.

2220
01:56:31,587 --> 01:56:35,307
Speaker 2: League thens certainly Striker Sam Cosgrove opening the scoring early.

2221
01:56:35,547 --> 01:56:38,587
Speaker 2: Results sealed midway through the second half by Lachland Brooks

2222
01:56:38,747 --> 01:56:43,027
Speaker 2: spectacular strike. Auckland five points clear out of Sydney FC

2223
01:56:43,267 --> 01:56:45,827
Speaker 2: at the top. SIDNEYFC do have two games in hand,

2224
01:56:45,907 --> 01:56:48,187
Speaker 2: so I guess theoretically if they win those two games

2225
01:56:48,227 --> 01:56:51,467
Speaker 2: in hand they would go ahead, but they face MacArthur

2226
01:56:51,507 --> 01:56:55,107
Speaker 2: tonight do Sydney FC. They're also five points back, so

2227
01:56:55,507 --> 01:56:59,147
Speaker 2: second the third tonight in that one. Here are some

2228
01:56:59,267 --> 01:57:02,387
Speaker 2: of the postmatch thoughts of Auckland FC head coach Steve Coricker.

2229
01:57:02,427 --> 01:57:06,187
Speaker 2: First of all, on Sam Cosgrove and Lockey Brook continuing

2230
01:57:06,387 --> 01:57:10,387
Speaker 2: to deliver for his side their fifth goals respectively for

2231
01:57:10,467 --> 01:57:10,867
Speaker 2: the season.

2232
01:57:11,267 --> 01:57:14,387
Speaker 17: They are pleased for both of them obviously, you know

2233
01:57:14,587 --> 01:57:17,827
Speaker 17: both both on five goals. I think now so as

2234
01:57:17,867 --> 01:57:22,067
Speaker 17: pleasing to have them both scoring. They worked hard, extremely

2235
01:57:22,107 --> 01:57:25,747
Speaker 17: hard as well, in tough conditions with the humidity that

2236
01:57:25,827 --> 01:57:29,507
Speaker 17: we're not really used to. But please that we kept

2237
01:57:29,547 --> 01:57:32,387
Speaker 17: a clean sheet a couple of areas I thought in

2238
01:57:32,427 --> 01:57:34,987
Speaker 17: the first half we could have done better with the ball,

2239
01:57:36,507 --> 01:57:38,467
Speaker 17: but the good thing is we got we got the

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01:57:38,507 --> 01:57:41,947
Speaker 17: second goal tonight that actually, you know that put the

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01:57:42,027 --> 01:57:44,587
Speaker 17: nail in their coffin. I think I think we could

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01:57:44,627 --> 01:57:47,467
Speaker 17: have probably won that, maybe even by three or four.

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01:57:47,547 --> 01:57:49,227
Speaker 17: I think we had a couple other chances that we

2244
01:57:49,627 --> 01:57:52,067
Speaker 17: probably could have done better with as well. But please

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01:57:52,147 --> 01:57:55,547
Speaker 17: obviously we're still unbeaten away from home, which is pleasing

2246
01:57:55,627 --> 01:57:59,467
Speaker 17: in six games now, so got another tough game next

2247
01:57:59,507 --> 01:58:02,187
Speaker 17: week against Melbourne City. But very very happy with the

2248
01:58:02,387 --> 01:58:02,947
Speaker 17: three points.

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01:58:03,067 --> 01:58:06,747
Speaker 2: If Steve Cricker was handed a five point leader, offered

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01:58:06,747 --> 01:58:09,467
Speaker 2: a five point lead after twelve games, surely he would

2251
01:58:09,467 --> 01:58:10,587
Speaker 2: have taken that, of course.

2252
01:58:10,747 --> 01:58:15,667
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think, yeah, obviously obviously happy with where we are.

2253
01:58:17,467 --> 01:58:18,987
Speaker 17: You know, we've had a couple of losses along the

2254
01:58:19,067 --> 01:58:23,387
Speaker 17: way against against Newcastle both games, so obviously that's disappointing.

2255
01:58:23,427 --> 01:58:25,267
Speaker 17: We need to try and rectify that next time we

2256
01:58:25,347 --> 01:58:28,267
Speaker 17: play them. But I'm obviously happy with where we are

2257
01:58:28,307 --> 01:58:28,747
Speaker 17: at the moment.

2258
01:58:28,947 --> 01:58:31,107
Speaker 2: How good was it to score a second goal and

2259
01:58:31,227 --> 01:58:33,107
Speaker 2: close the game out given the fact that a week

2260
01:58:33,147 --> 01:58:35,467
Speaker 2: ago they were one near ahead of MacArthur and ended

2261
01:58:35,547 --> 01:58:37,227
Speaker 2: up drawing that game one all.

2262
01:58:37,267 --> 01:58:39,867
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think especially after last week as well against MacArthur,

2263
01:58:39,947 --> 01:58:42,627
Speaker 17: because we had opportunities last week to bury the game.

2264
01:58:43,947 --> 01:58:44,747
Speaker 4: And we didn't take it.

2265
01:58:44,827 --> 01:58:47,147
Speaker 17: And sometimes in football you don't take your chances you

2266
01:58:47,427 --> 01:58:51,107
Speaker 17: can get caught. So I was obviously very happy when

2267
01:58:51,147 --> 01:58:53,987
Speaker 17: the second goal winning. I was quite comfortable after that.

2268
01:58:54,107 --> 01:58:56,867
Speaker 17: I thought, you know, they weren't going to score more

2269
01:58:56,907 --> 01:58:59,307
Speaker 17: than two goals to get back into the game. So

2270
01:59:00,027 --> 01:59:02,307
Speaker 17: but you know, we took our chances at the right time.

2271
01:59:02,787 --> 01:59:04,747
Speaker 17: This time round. Could have been more like I said.

2272
01:59:04,827 --> 01:59:07,187
Speaker 17: I think Sam Sam had a good in the first half,

2273
01:59:07,267 --> 01:59:09,387
Speaker 17: could have done better one in the second half as

2274
01:59:09,427 --> 01:59:12,027
Speaker 17: well with the across the face from Locke as well.

2275
01:59:12,467 --> 01:59:14,667
Speaker 17: Jesse Randall had had one good chance as well. The

2276
01:59:14,747 --> 01:59:19,667
Speaker 17: keeper made a good safe but obviously, yeah, clean sheet, great,

2277
01:59:19,947 --> 01:59:23,027
Speaker 17: two goals good. Obviously we can still we can still

2278
01:59:23,067 --> 01:59:25,027
Speaker 17: get better, we can still be more ruthless in front

2279
01:59:25,027 --> 01:59:25,267
Speaker 17: of all.

2280
01:59:25,627 --> 01:59:28,787
Speaker 2: This is the second time that Auckland have played Brisbane

2281
01:59:29,107 --> 01:59:32,347
Speaker 2: this season, a one all drawer at go Media Stadium,

2282
01:59:32,427 --> 01:59:35,387
Speaker 2: where after the game Steve Crocker was fairly critical of

2283
01:59:35,547 --> 01:59:37,347
Speaker 2: his side. So what was different in this one?

2284
01:59:37,427 --> 01:59:38,987
Speaker 7: We were up for it, we were ready for it.

2285
01:59:39,147 --> 01:59:42,067
Speaker 17: Obviously, you know we didn't go all our own way.

2286
01:59:42,267 --> 01:59:44,427
Speaker 17: I don't think they had a couple of good efforts

2287
01:59:44,467 --> 01:59:47,027
Speaker 17: in the second half. I think Michael made a couple

2288
01:59:47,027 --> 01:59:50,667
Speaker 17: of good saves as well. You know that's going to happen.

2289
01:59:50,827 --> 01:59:54,507
Speaker 17: I think we defended fairly well though throughout the whole game,

2290
01:59:56,627 --> 01:59:59,427
Speaker 17: but yeah, I think you know, we chased a couple

2291
01:59:59,467 --> 02:00:01,747
Speaker 17: of players freshen up the side, went to a back

2292
02:00:01,827 --> 02:00:04,507
Speaker 17: five when we thought, you know, we needed to and

2293
02:00:04,987 --> 02:00:06,867
Speaker 17: just to make sure we sought out the game this time.

2294
02:00:06,947 --> 02:00:10,187
Speaker 17: And it's more about concentration. We let ourself down last week.

2295
02:00:10,987 --> 02:00:13,867
Speaker 17: I guess MacArthur was the second phase of a said piece,

2296
02:00:13,947 --> 02:00:16,307
Speaker 17: so we didn't want that to happen again and we

2297
02:00:16,387 --> 02:00:18,027
Speaker 17: would just switch on the whole time. You can see

2298
02:00:18,027 --> 02:00:20,147
Speaker 17: that they were up for it from the start boys.

2299
02:00:20,547 --> 02:00:22,827
Speaker 2: That is the voice of Steve coricker Head, coach of

2300
02:00:22,867 --> 02:00:25,587
Speaker 2: Aukland FC. Two no winners last night over Brisbane Raw.

2301
02:00:25,987 --> 02:00:30,027
Speaker 2: They are away again next Friday, Friday January sixteenth at

2302
02:00:30,107 --> 02:00:32,627
Speaker 2: Melbourne City. Their next home game is a Fortnite. Today

2303
02:00:33,027 --> 02:00:36,147
Speaker 2: they welcome the Central Coast Mariners to go. Media study

2304
02:00:36,667 --> 02:00:38,107
Speaker 2: eight to three News talks.

2305
02:00:37,907 --> 02:00:42,147
Speaker 1: Edbright breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails.

2306
02:00:43,747 --> 02:00:47,467
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason him News Talk zenb.

2307
02:00:47,747 --> 02:00:49,387
Speaker 2: What are we five to three? That is us for

2308
02:00:49,427 --> 02:00:52,027
Speaker 2: weekend sport for today We're back tomorrow. Ruch and Ravendra

2309
02:00:52,187 --> 02:00:54,587
Speaker 2: leads us off after midday tomorrow. Also, I want to

2310
02:00:54,587 --> 02:00:57,987
Speaker 2: get inside the Black Foils camp with Blair Chuka, some

2311
02:00:58,147 --> 02:01:02,347
Speaker 2: Phoenix action with the Men and a brand new CEO

2312
02:01:02,507 --> 02:01:05,787
Speaker 2: for the Blues. Carl Budge, formerly of the ASB Classic,

2313
02:01:05,867 --> 02:01:09,747
Speaker 2: of course, is the new chief executive of Blues Rugby.

2314
02:01:09,787 --> 02:01:12,387
Speaker 2: Have a chat to him tomorrow as well. Adam Cooper

2315
02:01:12,587 --> 02:01:15,827
Speaker 2: up after three o'clock for summer weekends. Lots of great

2316
02:01:15,827 --> 02:01:18,987
Speaker 2: conversation topics. Thank you for listening in. Thanks to Andy

2317
02:01:19,067 --> 02:01:21,787
Speaker 2: McDonald for producing once again. I think the shows are

2318
02:01:21,827 --> 02:01:23,987
Speaker 2: going okay. It's only early in twenty twenty six, but

2319
02:01:24,027 --> 02:01:25,747
Speaker 2: I think you can still give us an exit song. Yeah,

2320
02:01:25,787 --> 02:01:27,307
Speaker 2: it's not going too bad, I don't think, if I

2321
02:01:27,387 --> 02:01:30,907
Speaker 2: may say so myself. Piney. We've been talking about clubs today,

2322
02:01:31,107 --> 02:01:34,387
Speaker 2: so obviously the famous famous club, the Partier Maldi Club

2323
02:01:35,027 --> 02:01:37,507
Speaker 2: with their hit song Poier. That's a song that's going

2324
02:01:37,587 --> 02:01:40,547
Speaker 2: to take us out today. Long live the club, Long

2325
02:01:40,827 --> 02:01:42,707
Speaker 2: live all of the clubs. Set them.

2326
02:02:00,987 --> 02:02:35,947
Speaker 1: Less for more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine. Listen

2327
02:02:36,107 --> 02:02:39,307
Speaker 1: live to news talks it be weekends from midday or

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