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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views.

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Speaker 2: Heather dupe to see Allen on the mic, asking breakfast

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Speaker 2: with Bailey's real estate all together better across residential, commercial

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Speaker 2: and rural news talks.

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Speaker 1: Head been, good.

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Speaker 3: Morning and welcome to you. Coming up on the show today,

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Speaker 3: there is a plan to double the value of international students.

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Speaker 3: We're going to speak to universities New Zealand about that.

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Speaker 3: We have sent to Australia a vessel seven hundred soldiers

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Speaker 3: in a drone for that big military exercise for check

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Speaker 3: in with them. Homeschooling is taking off wise that the

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister's back from holiday and in studio with us

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Speaker 3: look of the commentary box obviously after eight and then

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Speaker 3: we're off to the US and Ozzie as well.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplice Alan So to fix.

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Speaker 3: The ongoing problems that we've got with the supermarket competition

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Speaker 3: in this country. David Seymour's pitch to an idea fast

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Speaker 3: track any supermarket chain that wants to open if they apply,

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Speaker 3: give them permission a months, don't take years. Give them

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Speaker 3: permission for all of the stores that they want, not

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Speaker 3: just one at a time, and then give them an

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Speaker 3: automatic liquor license for all of the stores. Is this

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Speaker 3: going to make a difference. You'd think it probably would,

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Speaker 3: even that our current rules make it so hard that

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Speaker 3: it took Costco three years to get permission to build

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Speaker 3: its store, and i Kia got permission for Sylvia Park

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Speaker 3: and Auckland, but only if it allowed seven different Manifenua

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Speaker 3: groups to pray over the site a couple of times. Now,

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Speaker 3: obviously the devil is in the detail on David Seymore's idea,

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Speaker 3: but this is hands down the best idea that we've

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Speaker 3: had so far from this government on how to get

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Speaker 3: competition into the supermarket sector. Because everything up to now

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Speaker 3: you'd have to look back on and say has been

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Speaker 3: a non event, hasn't it. I mean, they've threatened the supermarkets.

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Speaker 3: They've written letters to the supermarkets telling them to fix

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Speaker 3: their pricing mistakes. They've commissioned analysis on what to do

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Speaker 3: with the supermarkets. They've issued a request for information with

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Speaker 3: the supermarkets. But what's happened. It's just been a big

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Speaker 3: performance of doing something while doing absolutely nothing at all.

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Speaker 3: None of that has made supermarkets more competitive. And same

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Speaker 3: goes by the way for what the government is doing

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Speaker 3: with the pretense of fixing banks while doing nothing, The

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Speaker 3: pretense of fixing the butter price by dealing to Fonterra,

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Speaker 3: but nothing's actually going to happen, the pretense of fixing

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Speaker 3: the electricity prices, which are still high. There are only

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Speaker 3: eighteen months or so left for this government. They need

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Speaker 3: to take a lesson from how voter patients ran out

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Speaker 3: with Ardurn and Labor doing exactly the same thing with

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Speaker 3: all those market studies that went nowhere. Voters have seen

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Speaker 3: all of this kind of stuff before. We're probably not

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Speaker 3: going to fall for all the same cheap tricks this time.

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Speaker 3: This government has talked about fixing supermarkets. Now it needs

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Speaker 3: to do something about fixing supermarkets.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's David Siemol's idea, maybe it's something else, but

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Speaker 3: do something.

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Speaker 1: Wow, News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: IDF is blaming a malfunction on a missile for killing

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Speaker 3: those innocent civilians and kids when they were just trying

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Speaker 3: to collect water as.

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Speaker 4: A result of a technical error with the munition. The

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Speaker 4: munition fell dozens of meeters from the target.

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Speaker 5: The incident is under review.

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Speaker 3: The EU is still hoping for a trade deal with

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Speaker 3: the US after Trump and posed thirty percent tariffs, so

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Speaker 3: they've suspended their retaliation measures until early August.

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Speaker 6: We will therefore also extend the suspension of our countermeasures

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Speaker 6: till early on August, and at the same time, we

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Speaker 6: will continue to prepare further countermeasures so we are fully prepared.

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Speaker 3: The Epstein file saga is rolling on and continues to

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Speaker 3: divide the megabase, so Trump's written about it in a

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Speaker 3: lengthy post on truth Social They created the Epstein files

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Speaker 3: just like they created a fake Hillary Clinton Christopher s

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Speaker 3: Field Arca, the one they used on me, and now

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Speaker 3: my so called friends are playing right into their hands.

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Speaker 3: We'll have more on that before six thirty. Now to

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Speaker 3: the UK and the government is refusing to rule out

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Speaker 3: tax hikes for the middle class and wealthy.

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Speaker 7: I'm not going to sit in a TV studio today

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Speaker 7: and speculate on what the contents of that budget might be.

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Speaker 7: When it comes to taxation, fairness is going to be

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Speaker 7: our guiding principle.

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Speaker 3: This is obviously just given the Tories morem O.

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Speaker 8: That sounds to me like a barely disguised reference to

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Speaker 8: tax rises coming in the autumn, even though Rachel Reeves

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Speaker 8: promised last year there would be no further tax rises.

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Speaker 8: She said that very clearly they're in the process of

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Speaker 8: crashing the economy.

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Speaker 3: A dropping the measles vaccine rates and a death in

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Speaker 3: Liverpool now has us worrying about social media and people

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Speaker 3: doing their own research.

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Speaker 9: If you can't get an answer to your questions from

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Speaker 9: health professional because they're not available, then you will look

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Speaker 9: for it elsewhere and maybe go to social media or

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Speaker 9: the Internet, where we know there is a lot of misinformation.

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Speaker 3: And finally, we've got a rare auction happening this week.

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Speaker 3: Southby's in New York is going to be auctioning off

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Speaker 3: what is known as NWA one six seven eighty eight. Now,

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Speaker 3: what that actually is is a meteorite that was blown

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Speaker 3: off the surface of Mars and eventually landed in the

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Speaker 3: Sahara before being found in November twenty twenty three. It

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Speaker 3: is the biggest meteorite we're found, at thirty eight centimeters

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Speaker 3: by twenty eight centimeters and represents seven percents seven percent

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Speaker 3: rather of all the Martian material that we currently have

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Speaker 3: on Earth. It's expected to solve for between five and

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Speaker 3: a half million and eleven point six million New Zealand

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Speaker 3: dollars to anyways, that is news of the world. In

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Speaker 3: ninety seconds. I've got some happy royal news for you,

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Speaker 3: because Jesus has been a dearth of that of late,

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Speaker 3: isn't It looks like there might be something of a

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Speaker 3: Reproachemont on the cards between Harry and Charles. Some senior

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Speaker 3: aides have held some peace talks in London. So this

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Speaker 3: involved Harry's new chief communications officer who flew over from California,

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Speaker 3: then the chap who runs Harry's PR operation in the UK,

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Speaker 3: and then the King's comm Secretary Communication Secretary. Three of

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Speaker 3: them met up for drinks at a private members club

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Speaker 3: last Wednesday. It was very casual apparently, but it was

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Speaker 3: a clearing of the air. Two of them, the Sussex people,

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Speaker 3: arrived by taxi at ten to four and then the

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Speaker 3: other one came from the King's courts carrying a gift

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Speaker 3: from a wine and spirits merchant. So it looks like

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be quite fun if this works. By the way,

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Speaker 3: this is the first set of talks that have been held.

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Speaker 3: It's wild that a family has to do this kind

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Speaker 3: of thing, but it's the first set of talks that

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Speaker 3: have been held in years. And if it works. It

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Speaker 3: might lead to Charles taking up Harry's invitation to go

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Speaker 3: to the Invictus Games in Birmingham in a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Time thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: At be.

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Speaker 3: We're going to go to Richard Arnold in the US.

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Speaker 3: Shortly after half past six, Trump's made a major Russia

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Speaker 3: Statement's got one coming up today, so you'll fill us

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Speaker 3: in on that. At sixteen past six. With that's right now,

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Speaker 3: we have Brig Smith, Devin Funds Management. Morning Greg, Morning Heather.

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Speaker 3: How do you think the market's going to react to

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Speaker 3: the latest on the tariffs.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they'll be in for a test of their resilience, I suppose.

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Speaker 10: And you know, is this more just more bluffing and

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Speaker 10: about reaching out pressure to get deals done? Is Tarco's

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Speaker 10: still alive? And well, so, I guess we'll see. But

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Speaker 10: your market has been pretty insensitive to these regular threats.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, we'll be in for a new test this week.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, so what have we got over the weekend?

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Speaker 10: Trump unveilve thirty percent tariff rates on Europe and Mexico

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Speaker 10: And this is pretty relevant. They together make up around

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Speaker 10: about a third of years. Imports, they said, if they

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Speaker 10: retaliate you mentioned Europe retaliating with candemssions, he says, whatever

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Speaker 10: they raise their rates by will be added to the

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Speaker 10: thirty percent. So this is similar to the letters sent

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Speaker 10: to Canada last week. And with respect to Mexica, Mexico

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Speaker 10: said they're not doing enough to combat the flood drugs

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Speaker 10: across the board. Also immigrants, the duties up. They're behind

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Speaker 10: in the twenty five percent post of Mexico earlier in

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Speaker 10: agreement which makes might make some of them exempt. So

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Speaker 10: therefore the impact is suppose a little bit still unclear.

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Speaker 10: Mexico they said the deal was unfair. And with Europe

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Speaker 10: he's still unhappy, of course with the trade deficit which

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Speaker 10: the continent runs, exports the most goods of any nation

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Speaker 10: to America. Of course he's obviously still happier if they

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Speaker 10: relocate and manufacture their stuff there. But yeah, European leaders,

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Speaker 10: they were happy, including use of the Vondalane. The president,

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Speaker 10: she was up in arms as with some of them,

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Speaker 10: talking about the countermeasures as you mentioned, and this new

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Speaker 10: August one deadline, So yeah, there's a bit of a

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Speaker 10: follow up, a steep up and pressure. Of course, Trump

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Speaker 10: last week sent letters to twenty three other training partners,

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Speaker 10: including Cana in Japan and Brazil and sitting out Taos,

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Speaker 10: ranging from twenty to fifty percent. So I think heither

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Speaker 10: with deals having an obviously and coming following and have this.

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Speaker 10: I think this is all just about retching out the

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Speaker 10: pressure ahead of that. But yeah, markets will obviously be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you make of Levi Strass the way

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Speaker 3: it's shrugging it off.

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Speaker 10: Ho company's actually doing quite well, including the genes maker.

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Speaker 10: So this years are up eleven percent on Friday they've

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Speaker 10: they don't go any high. I guess that's a big

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Speaker 10: question mark. And they see an impact of this twenty

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Speaker 10: five to thirty million. It's pretty relevant to them where

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Speaker 10: these tariffs go because a lot of the stuff that

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Speaker 10: they make comes to pakist Bangladesh and leisure and the like.

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Speaker 10: So they're being threatened with these high tariffs. But yeah,

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Speaker 10: Levi's are coping by basically strong demands. So you know,

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Speaker 10: there's the slogan his quality never goes out of style

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Speaker 10: and appears that's is continuing to resonate with customers. So

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Speaker 10: here there are Genes recession proof. It seems like they

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Speaker 10: might be. They say that demands still their consumers are

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Speaker 10: still spinning. They reckon sales for the current quarter are

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Speaker 10: going to be up three to four percent now the

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Speaker 10: market spending five percent decline. They're also doing a number

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Speaker 10: of specific strategies which are going well. So the more

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Speaker 10: direct consumer sales gen Z millennials they are buying them.

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Speaker 10: Genes are still the best sellers, but also getting into caps,

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Speaker 10: back picks and even aprons, and they've got a coleb

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Speaker 10: of Nike and denham sneakers that's going pretty well. And

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Speaker 10: also either female shoppers, they're trying to warn more of

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Speaker 10: them and that's going pretty well. Women's of Peril Cells

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Speaker 10: jumped fourteen percent. They've got this partnership Beyonce and that's

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Speaker 10: proved a great move. Sales wise certainly had a nice

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Speaker 10: ring for investors. She is rolling Friday and up to

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Speaker 10: twenty seven percent year to day.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now looking at the PMI data, not looking too.

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Speaker 10: Flesh, No, it just sort of reinforces that the new

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Speaker 10: other economy is stumbling along along, if not stalling in

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Speaker 10: the seeing quarter. So the Business Benzi Business and Museum

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Speaker 10: Performance and Manufacturing Report was titled still in the Red,

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Speaker 10: which is a bit of a giveaway. PMI actually improved

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Speaker 10: the forty seven point four but from forty seven point

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Speaker 10: four show, say, to forty eight point eight, but under

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Speaker 10: fifty it's still in contracting territory. So a lot of

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Speaker 3: Now, Hey Karen, good morning, I'm well, thank you, is

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Speaker 16: It is getting urgent. And the reason we call in

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Speaker 3: Okay, why are you guys putting an open letter in

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Speaker 16: What we need is some change that's more than just incremental.

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Speaker 16: We've got a drive. We've got a reasonably good winter.

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Speaker 16: He's certainly understanding the issues and he's been out there

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Speaker 3: Here that someone should look into the daily line charges

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Speaker 3: being between four and five dollars per day, So before

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Speaker 3: you even turn your power on, you're paying up to

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Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty dollars a month just in daily

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Speaker 3: line charges. But Malcolm, with that is if that truly

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Speaker 3: is how much we're paying, its extraordinary. But it would

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Speaker 3: go somewhere to explain what's going on with my power

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Speaker 3: bill at the moment. Sixteen away from.

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Speaker 2: Seven, International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 2: mind for New Zealand, business with us out.

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Speaker 3: Of you as we have Richard Arnold High Richard Hi,

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Speaker 3: the Okay, what are you expecting from the statement on Russia.

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Speaker 17: Well, a significant reversal by Trump on Ukraine. Trump is

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Speaker 17: going to deliver an important speech in Russia tomorrow after

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Speaker 17: days where he's been highlighting his upset with Russia's Putin.

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Speaker 17: So this is a big shift in policy from the

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Speaker 17: Trump White House, and it comes at a point where

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Speaker 17: Putin has been stepping up his attacks on Ukraine. We've

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Speaker 17: been seeing this day by day righte Whenever Trump renewed

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Speaker 17: his chats with Putin, the Russians would ignore the seas

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Speaker 17: file calls coming out of Washington and launch even bigger

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Speaker 17: volleys of missiles and drones onto Ukrainian civilian sites. That

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Speaker 17: led Trump to use his harshest language yet about the situation.

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Speaker 18: We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin.

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Speaker 10: Three.

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Speaker 18: You want to know the truth. It's very nice all

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Speaker 18: the time, but it turns out to be meaningless.

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Speaker 17: Now, this policy shift by Trump is happening right after

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Speaker 17: controversial halt in supplying US weapons to Kiv that delayed

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Speaker 17: an existing aid package to the Ukraine, with thousands of

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Speaker 17: artillery rounds and precision and ammunition involved. Now, says Trump,

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Speaker 17: we wanted to.

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Speaker 18: Put defensive weapons because Putin is not treating human beings right,

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Speaker 18: scilling too many people. So we're sending some defensive weapons

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Speaker 18: to Ukraine and have approved there well.

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Speaker 17: Ukraine is running short on anti missile systems like the

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Speaker 17: Patriot anti missile banks, but there is more. Trump is

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Speaker 17: weighing several elements. One would be a new Ukrainian aid

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Speaker 17: package with phones drawn from money already approved under Biden,

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Speaker 17: the fund that has three point eight billion US left.

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Speaker 17: As well, NATO has been working towards a larger deal

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Speaker 17: on weapons for Ukraine, where instead of the US supplying

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Speaker 17: stuff directly, the NATO Alliance would buy the weapons from

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Speaker 17: the United States and pass them on at no cost

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Speaker 17: to the Ukrainians. Would mean there's a lot of cash

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Speaker 17: for the Americans, so Trump's persuaded by that. It would

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Speaker 17: also let Washington step back a little bit from the

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Speaker 17: process as well. There's been a move by Ukrainian backers

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Speaker 17: in the US Congress to push forward with a new

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Speaker 17: sanctions measure against Russia, one that would put big, big

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Speaker 17: tariffs on places by Russian oil in here in China.

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Speaker 17: One of the co sponsors of that move is Republican

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Speaker 17: Senator Lindsey Graham, who is said today.

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Speaker 19: I expect in the coming days you will see weapons

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Speaker 19: flowing at a record level to help Ukraine defend themselves.

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Speaker 19: I expect in the coming days that there will be

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Speaker 19: tariffs and sanctions available to President Trump he's never had before.

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Speaker 17: Well, that is any way to pressure putin. That's the question, right,

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Speaker 17: It remains an open one. But like I say, this

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Speaker 17: is a reversal by Team Trump.

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Speaker 3: Richard, where are we at with Alligator Alcatraz?

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Speaker 17: Well, we know a little more about it now. The

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Speaker 17: home run security to Christy Nome is slamming critics of

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Speaker 17: this new immigration's attentions soonde in Florida. The place was

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Speaker 17: built in just eight days. Trump piled with construction time

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Speaker 17: because it was so rapid. Nome says, pollies who now

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Speaker 17: have been able to see something of it and who

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Speaker 17: are calling conditions in humane, are just just playing games,

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Speaker 17: just political games. At first, those lawmakers were denied access

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Speaker 17: and they protested and they were allowed to see bits

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Speaker 17: of it. There are some nine hundred people being held

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Speaker 17: at the minute. Lawmaker Debuury Washerman Trutz is sewing off conditions.

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Speaker 20: The pictures that you've seen, don't do it justice. They

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Speaker 20: are essentially packed into cages wall to wall humans thirty

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Speaker 20: two detainees per case.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, there reports a bad hygiene of feces being spread everywhere,

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Speaker 17: sorry to convey this, with the toilets not working, lack

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Speaker 17: of food, folks having a shower in the middle of

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Speaker 17: the night because of inadequate facilities. It's claimed they can

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Speaker 17: triple the number of people staying there. But again those

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Speaker 17: detainees complain they're not being given legal rights, access to lawyers. Again,

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Speaker 17: the immigration squads I so picking up folks with no

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Speaker 17: criminal records, often detaining people for turning up at official

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Speaker 17: immigration hearings where they were ordered to appear. A federal

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Speaker 17: judge and now has temporarily halted the administration from making

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Speaker 17: arrests based only on these things or on race. And

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Speaker 17: Christine Noms says of that judge.

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Speaker 3: She's frankly an idiot.

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Speaker 20: We have all the rate in the world to go

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Speaker 20: out down the streets and to uphold the line to

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Speaker 20: do what we're going to do, so none of our

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Speaker 20: operations are going to change.

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Speaker 17: He's frankly an idiot. Well, the judge declared there to

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Speaker 17: be a male idiot is actually a female judge, so

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Speaker 17: clearly Christie Nome doesn't even know who she is talking about.

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Speaker 3: Richard, thanks very much, really appreciate it. It's Richard Arnold, our

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Speaker 3: US correspondent. Listen, we're gonna have to talk about the

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Speaker 3: road cones in a minute. I am yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 3: loving what's going on with the road cones, so let's

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Speaker 3: chat through that. Can I just say, I've been watching Wimbledon, right,

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Speaker 3: because of course Sinner has been nel Karez to take

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Speaker 3: this thing out. Sinner has been walking around since then

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Speaker 3: with straight not even not even cracking a smile. I

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Speaker 3: don't know about you, but if I had taken out Wimbledon,

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Speaker 3: I would be grinning like an absolute clown the entire like.

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Speaker 3: I'd go to bed grinning like a clown. I'd grin

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Speaker 3: like a clown the whole day for how excited I

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Speaker 3: was about the situation. He's just completely taken it in Astrida.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't even as cool as a cucumber. Doesn't even

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Speaker 3: look like he cares about it, just just.

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Speaker 21: A day's job, almost as though he was medicated.

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Speaker 3: Almost as though he may have a problem with being

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Speaker 3: a drug cheat, which has been pointed out to me

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Speaker 3: on the text. Thanks very much for doing that. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: The commentary boxes with us after eight o'clock, so we

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Speaker 3: got plenty to because I don't know if you caught

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Speaker 3: up on what happened with the women's but it's called

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Speaker 3: a double doughnut. When you get beaten six loves, six love,

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Speaker 3: that's just embarrassing anyway, So plenty to talk through with

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Speaker 3: the commentary box after eight ten to seven, called.

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Speaker 2: Heather duper c Allen on the mic, asking breakfast with

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Speaker 2: a Vida Retirement Communities News, togs Head.

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Speaker 3: Be double bagel, Heather, It's called a double bagel, double bagel,

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Speaker 3: double doughnut, double zero's whatever.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's round, it's a circle. It depends on where you

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Speaker 3: come from. Tomatoes, tomatoes. Now, this this military exercise that's

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Speaker 3: going on in Australia is called Operation Talisman Saber, and

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Speaker 3: we've sent over seven hundred of our personnel. We've sent

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Speaker 3: over a vessel, we've sent over a drone. I literally

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Speaker 3: think we've sent over just the one drone, various other

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Speaker 3: vehicles and stuff like that. Lieutenant Colonel Tim Tuteni is

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Speaker 3: going to wake up very early for us in the

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Speaker 3: morning in Australia and run us through those details when

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Speaker 3: he's with us after seven six away from seven, all.

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Speaker 1: The ins and the outs.

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Speaker 2: It's the fiz with business Fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 2: to the next level.

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Speaker 3: Now, there are a couple of new features that are

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Speaker 3: going to be released by Uber that are going to

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Speaker 3: help the seniors in this country. Not saying elderly, I'm

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Speaker 3: saying seniors. Uber is releasing an industry first bee Cha.

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Speaker 3: It's called Simple Mode, and basically it's going to look

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Speaker 3: like your parents' phones when where they've dialed up the

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Speaker 3: size of the text, you know, when they've got fewer buttons,

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Speaker 3: plenty of instructions on screen to kind of just help

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Speaker 3: them out to navigate the thing. Then there's the other

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Speaker 3: change that has been raised many many times at the

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Speaker 3: Global Conventions for Rideshare Group. It's called the Senior Account.

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Speaker 3: And what you're going to be able to do is

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Speaker 3: you are going to be able to book the rides,

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Speaker 3: make the payment, and track how it's all going from

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Speaker 3: your phone. So rather than relying on your older family

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Speaker 3: members sometimes you know someone who's not so tech savvy

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Speaker 3: or whatever, someone who can do it is going to

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Speaker 3: be able to do it all themselves, so they know

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Speaker 3: it will be done right and without any kind of worry. Now,

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Speaker 3: considering that we have over nine hundred thousand Kiwis in

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Speaker 3: this country aged over sixty five years and age concerns

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Speaker 3: say they're on board for the changes, it looks like

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Speaker 3: it's going to be welcome here. I think, Look, we've

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Speaker 3: all got them in our lives. We all need to

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Speaker 3: help them out from time to time with the tech.

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Speaker 3: But all I want to say to you is, if

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Speaker 3: you go go ahead with this, you are enabling the behaviors. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so you get what you tolerate. You want to do this,

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Speaker 3: You're going to be booking the rides forever. Now let's

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Speaker 3: talk about the road cones. I loved the idea of

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Speaker 3: the road Cone tip line very much when it was

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Speaker 3: when it was launched, to the extent that I basically

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Speaker 3: allowed anybody to use my name, and many, many, many

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Speaker 3: complaints were laid in my name. But I am fast

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Speaker 3: coming to the conclusion that the road Cone tip line.

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Speaker 10: Is a joke.

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Speaker 3: Wayne Brown was in the papers yesterday and I agree

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Speaker 3: with him on this. He says the mayor considers the

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Speaker 3: hotline to be nothing more than a pr stunt that

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Speaker 3: does nothing to address the underlying issue. And I agree

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Speaker 3: with him on that. I'll tell you why, right, because

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Speaker 3: how it works is you fill out the little road

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Speaker 3: cone tip line and they've got we're spending money on this,

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Speaker 3: it's costing us money. So they dispatch a couple of

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Speaker 3: people to go and have a look at the road

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Speaker 3: cones wherever you've complained about them, whether it's an in

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Speaker 3: the Giggle or New Plymouth or Auckland or whatever. They'll

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Speaker 3: send somebody out there go look at the road cones

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Speaker 3: and invariably what happens as the person gets there goes one, two, three,

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Speaker 3: ninety nine. Right now, that's allowed. They are allowed to

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Speaker 3: have ninety nine road cones. Now you and I drive past,

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Speaker 3: we go that's too many road cones. But that is

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Speaker 3: exactly how many road cones they need, because that is

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Speaker 3: how many road cones they are supposed to have to

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Speaker 3: keep people safe. Now, what I can't figure out. So

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Speaker 3: what you need to do is you need to change

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Speaker 3: the requirement. Right whatever is making them put out all

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Speaker 3: those road cones, that's what you need to change. No

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Speaker 3: point us narcing on them because they're not breaking the rules,

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Speaker 3: So change the rules. But what are the rules? Well,

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Speaker 3: I was trying to figure this out yesterday because I

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Speaker 3: think it's in the Health and safety legislation, but it

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Speaker 3: could also be in work Safe's interpretation of the health

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Speaker 3: and safety legislation and what they tell the companies to do.

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Speaker 3: So I made some phone calls about it. I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you what no one can tell you. Not the Minister's office,

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Speaker 3: Brook van Valden's office. They've got no idea. Are called labour,

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Speaker 3: They've got no idea. No one knows what you need

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Speaker 3: to change to change the rules. But meanwhile, meanwhile, Wellington

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Speaker 3: Water the men Wellington they had this big hole they

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Speaker 3: were digging on Taranaki Street. They spent twenty one million

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Speaker 3: dollars on that big hole, two point seven million of

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Speaker 3: it traffic management. There's basically road cones right there.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: What do do you know who might know? How we

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Speaker 3: change it? Prime Minister is with us after half past seven.

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Speaker 3: Next up, though, how do we get more of those

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Speaker 3: international students? Newstig ZB.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know

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Speaker 2: and a Dupi c Allen on the mic asking Breakfast

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Speaker 2: with the land Rover Discovery, never Stop discovering news tog DEADV.

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Speaker 3: Good Morning. The government's going after more international students. It's

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Speaker 3: announced a plan to double the value of our international

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Speaker 3: education sector up to seven point two billion dollars in

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Speaker 3: the next ten years.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 3: The plan includes extending in study work rights. Chris Wheelan

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Speaker 3: is University's New Zealand CEO and with US morning, Chris,

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Speaker 3: Good morning. Will the changes make a difference?

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Speaker 5: Look, I hope.

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Speaker 10: So.

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Speaker 5: I think there's a strong ambition across universities and in

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Speaker 5: fact across the entire industry to grow, and the kind

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Speaker 5: of targets that are being set here don't actually get

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Speaker 5: us back to even our high tide mark, which was

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Speaker 5: about twenty sixteen. So it's a it's a balance. It'll

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Speaker 5: still be far less than say countries like Australia or Canada,

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Speaker 5: but it'll still it'll make sure that incestual education actually

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Speaker 5: gets to I think a level where it's making a

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Speaker 5: real contribution to this country.

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Speaker 3: Why aren't aiming higher?

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Speaker 5: I think there's a social license around this. I think

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Speaker 5: it's around attracting high quality students. I think we don't

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Speaker 5: want it to be a straight numbers game and We've

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Speaker 5: seen what happens overseas if you push numbers too far,

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Speaker 5: it does put a lot of pressure on, you know,

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Speaker 5: other services that are enjoyed by locals, whether it's hospitals

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Speaker 5: or schools. And you know, it's a finding a basic balance.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that extending the hours that they are

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Speaker 3: allowed to work from twenty to twenty five hours a

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Speaker 3: week will make a massive difference.

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Speaker 5: I think it'll make a difference for some parts of

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Speaker 5: the industry, so particularly the areas that are more vocationally focused,

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Speaker 5: where students are wanted to get experienced, whether it's nursing

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Speaker 5: or it And I think, you know, it can be

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Speaker 5: a good thing. We do know that about eighty five

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Speaker 5: percent of students, the ability to be able to work

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Speaker 5: while they study is actually a factor that makes New

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Speaker 5: seven the very attractive destination.

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Speaker 3: And what about considering a visa to allow them to

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Speaker 3: work for six years after they study? Is that is

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Speaker 3: that something they're quite keen to do?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 5: Right now, we give basically three years post study work

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Speaker 5: rights for someone to get a degree. That's a chance

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Speaker 5: for them to find a degree level qual a degree

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Speaker 5: level employment. And you know, and we know that about

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Speaker 5: seventeen or eighteen percent. Actually take that up, and of

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Speaker 5: that seventeen or eighteen percent, ten and every eleven are

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Speaker 5: actually in degree level employment, so they're actually in well

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Speaker 5: paying skilled jobs and contributing to the economy.

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Speaker 3: Chris, what is it that is preventing them from coming

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Speaker 3: back in the same numbers that they used to? Why

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Speaker 3: don't they want to?

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Speaker 5: Look, it's a competitive world out there. In saying that

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Speaker 5: international education is forecast to keep on growing around the world,

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Speaker 5: there are a lot of people in countries where they're

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Speaker 5: just aren't There isn't enough high quality education available to

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Speaker 5: them locally, or it's too competitive. And you know, getting

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Speaker 5: a qualification in an English speaking country is still very attractive.

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Speaker 5: Being able to do business in English with the English

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Speaker 5: speaking world, it's still a real selling point. So for us,

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Speaker 5: it's about, you know, how do we you know, how

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Speaker 5: do we put ourselves out there?

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Speaker 3: Thanks Chris, Good to talk Chris Wheland University's New Zealand CEO.

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Speaker 3: Ten past seven, Heather dup c Ellen. One of the

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Speaker 3: world's largest military exercises is underway in Australia. It's called

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Speaker 3: Operation Talisman Saber. It involves thirty five thousand personnel from

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Speaker 3: nineteen countries, including the US UK and of course ourselves.

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Speaker 3: Lieutenant Colonel Tim TUATTENI is over in Australian is with

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Speaker 3: us morning, Tim?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I am more than a heather.

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Speaker 3: I imagine the Chinese are watching this closely? What do

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Speaker 3: you think?

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Speaker 4: I'm not too sure they can see me at the moment, to.

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Speaker 3: Be fair or not, not our conversation, it was meaning

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Speaker 3: the operation. They're going to be out there having a

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Speaker 3: look at it, aren't they?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Look, you know, really we're here and I'm sure there's

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Speaker 4: an interest, but there's an interest right across in the

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Speaker 4: Pacific and that's why we're I mean, as you said

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Speaker 4: in your introduction, there's nineteen nations here. It's a large

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Speaker 4: exercise and you know Tellisman SABER is essentially a bilateral

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Speaker 4: between Australia and New Australia in our closest apply, but

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Speaker 4: it's also also includes a number of nations and it's

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Speaker 4: across I suppose we call it a multi domain operation exercise,

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Speaker 4: but to put it into sort of simple terms, it's

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Speaker 4: an exercise that focuses on enhancing interoperability and combat readiness

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Speaker 4: across what we call the domains, which is air, land, maritime,

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Speaker 4: cyber and space.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so what have you guys taken over? You've taken

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Speaker 3: a vessel? Have you just taken the one drone?

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Speaker 13: Now?

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Speaker 4: Look, we've we've got a number of capabilities over here.

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Speaker 4: There are a number of that. There are the ships here,

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Speaker 4: we have our rotor wing, our pates, and we've also

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Speaker 4: a number of our our ground forces, our labs, our

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Speaker 4: around combat capability. Some of them have actually been here

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Speaker 4: for a month already in a number of leading exercises

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Speaker 4: diamonds strike we call it, and they've been here for

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Speaker 4: a month and they now transition into the talisman saber.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, tim, do you guys sit around and reflect

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Speaker 3: on the chances that you may have to go to warn?

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Speaker 3: If you do, how do you rate them?

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Speaker 4: Look, I think this is our ability to be part

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Speaker 4: of these large certainly list exercise. I mean, historically we've

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Speaker 4: always sort of stood shoulder shoulder with our ausimates. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, way back you talk about the ANZACs, but

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Speaker 4: certainly through contemporary operations and even today we're serving side

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Speaker 4: by side in modern operations around the globe. And the

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Speaker 4: ability for us, even though we're a small part of

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Speaker 4: this very large exercise. It's our people and we're very

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Speaker 4: high quality people. Are chance to integrate small teams, individuals

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Speaker 4: and even sub units and be part of a large

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Speaker 4: exercise like this which very much. This is off our

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Speaker 4: training and allows us to exercise our combat readiness.

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Speaker 3: Tim, good luck, Thank you very much for your time.

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Speaker 3: Tim twatteeny, Senior National Officer, Lieutenant colonel at the NZF

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Speaker 3: And speaking of the chances of going to war, Albanesi

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Speaker 3: Anthony Alberize has been asked if Australia would follow the

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Speaker 3: US into war over Taiwan if it ever came to that.

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Speaker 3: He is declining to answer that question either.

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Speaker 1: Do for see Ellen.

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Speaker 3: I suspect that we're going to have another debate about

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Speaker 3: slash again because I don't know if you've seen what's

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Speaker 3: gone on in the South Island, top of the South

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Speaker 3: Island this weekend. But boy, oh boy, is there slash

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Speaker 3: absolutely everywhere. I got seen to video actually for somebody

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Speaker 3: in the Nelson, Tasman area last night, furious driving down this,

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Speaker 3: driven down the road just you would not believe it.

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Speaker 3: Just slash absolutely everywhere. News websites are now starting to

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Speaker 3: cover it looks pretty bad. NATSI Muti, which is in

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Speaker 3: the Mutuika Valley. It's been hit particularly badly. One guy

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Speaker 3: them up the back of the place. There was a

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Speaker 3: small creek there, massive gouge out of the land. There

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Speaker 3: now piles of silt, splintered wood. Reckons that there's a

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Speaker 3: trail that has backed up a couple of hundred meters long.

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Speaker 3: He reckons. All of the stuff is washed down from

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Speaker 3: the forestry block, which is just on steep land about

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Speaker 3: two k's upstream forestry companies because they know they're going

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Speaker 3: to copy it if people get angry about this all

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Speaker 3: dying at the beach again like last time. They've sent

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Speaker 3: some representatives down to have a look at it, and apparently,

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Speaker 3: according to him, the forestry representatives were left speechless. I

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Speaker 3: am too actually quarter past the mike.

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Speaker 2: Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on I have radio powered

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Speaker 3: Might have an answer on the road. Cone is going

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Speaker 3: to get to that in at I can remember the

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister's with us after half past seven, back from

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Speaker 3: his holiday seventeen past seven. Right now now homeschooling is

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Speaker 3: more popular than ever. Data show that eleven four hundred

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Speaker 3: students are enrolled home education or were at least at

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Speaker 3: the end of last year. Now that is double what

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Speaker 3: it was twenty five years ago. Cynthia Hancocks is the

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Speaker 3: government liaison for the National Council of Home Educators and

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Speaker 3: is with us morning Cynthia.

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Speaker 22: Good morning Heather.

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Speaker 3: Why is it so popular?

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Speaker 22: Oh, look, there's lots of reasons and it always has been.

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Speaker 22: The Ministry doesn't gather data on why people choose to

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Speaker 22: home educate, but the National Council of Home Educators does

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Speaker 22: ask that question in our annual survey, and the majority

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Speaker 22: of respondents talk about things like desiring a closer family units,

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Speaker 22: family values more central, wanting a higher quality, tailored learning

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Speaker 22: education for their children. And there's a variety of other reasons.

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Speaker 22: It might be special education needs that aren't being met

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Speaker 22: in school, or wanting to avoid bullying or negative aspects

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Speaker 22: of the school system. It can be because their children

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Speaker 22: are involved in activities and the lifestyle of homeschooling gives

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Speaker 22: them more flexibility for the sports or the travel or

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Speaker 22: the whatever it is that might be involved.

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Speaker 1: So one of the reasons no.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a whole bunch of reasons available, obviously,

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Speaker 3: but is any one of these actually driving, in particular

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Speaker 3: driving the increase that we've seen in recent times.

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Speaker 22: Well again, it's speculative, really, but there's been a lot

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Speaker 22: of changes in the education system over the last you know,

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Speaker 22: six to eight years, and a lot of families are

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Speaker 22: just not that happy with what is going on.

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Speaker 3: And when you say that, Cntha, are you talking about

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Speaker 3: the actual learning that the kids are doing, Like a

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Speaker 3: parent's looking at it and saying, oh, little Johnny is

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Speaker 3: not learning enough in maths, I'm gonna have to pull

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Speaker 3: them out? Or is it what little Johnny is learning?

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Speaker 3: And by that I mean maybe some controversial stuff that

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Speaker 3: people don't love.

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Speaker 22: I'd say it's a combination of those things. In particular,

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Speaker 22: there's a lot of concern about the quality of education.

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Speaker 22: Content is a factive for some people, but it is

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Speaker 22: quality or the outcomes their children are experiencing that I'm

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Speaker 22: not knocking the education system as such. There's some fabulous

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Speaker 22: teachers and fabulous schools. However, the overall thing is that

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Speaker 22: we've got stretched resources, we've got stress teachers, we've got

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Speaker 22: an increase in children with additional needs and the systems

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Speaker 22: not keeping up with that. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 22: things that end up having a flow on effect to

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Speaker 22: the quality of education that some children are experiencing.

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Speaker 3: Say, very quickly, what do you make of the fact

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Speaker 3: that if kids are homeschooled they are not allowed to

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Speaker 3: get medals if they do well at those competitions.

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Speaker 22: Well, it's very inequitable, isn't it very unfair? If you

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Speaker 22: look at the Rights of the Child the UN Convention

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Speaker 22: on the Rights of the Child, all children have the

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Speaker 22: right to participate in cultural, recreational, et cetera activities, and

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Speaker 22: in fact, the state has an obligation under that convention

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Speaker 22: to ensure that all children have access to that, and

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Speaker 22: it's not dependent on where they're getting educated. So really

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Speaker 22: it is completely inequitable that students can't get medals they've earned.

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Speaker 3: Yep, it's ridiculous, Cynthia, Thanks very much. Cynthia Hancock's government

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Speaker 3: liaison for the National Council Home Educators in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Here they do not be too critical of the slash.

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Speaker 3: home Danny, All you need to do is just give

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Speaker 3: lizards in that slash is not going to move. They'll

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880
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Speaker 3: Maybe you haven't process and it's opened you up to

890
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Speaker 3: a personal grievance. You definitely should have had my HR.

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Speaker 3: You're getting the point. Yet, if you are a small

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Speaker 3: I'm not even going to hide this. I hope like

896
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Speaker 3: hell that Labour wins the spy election. I'm talking about

897
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Speaker 3: the Tamakimikoto by election that's been triggered by the death

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Speaker 3: of the Maori Party MP Takatai tash Kemp. There are

899
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Speaker 3: only two candidates here. You can either back the Maori

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Speaker 3: Party candidate or any kaipitter, or you can back Labour's

901
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Speaker 3: Peni Henata. No one else is running, and Labor as

902
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Speaker 3: far as I'm concerned, needs to back this, needs to

903
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Speaker 3: win this. I'm backing them because I think it would

904
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Speaker 3: be perverse for the Maori Party to be rewarded for

905
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Speaker 3: their carry on in the last few months. I'm not

906
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Speaker 3: even talking about the Huker incident. That is not even

907
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Speaker 3: the worst thing as far as I'm concerned. I mean, look,

908
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Speaker 3: it would be unfortunate if they won because people supported

909
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Speaker 3: them giving the middle finger to the rules of Parliament.

910
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Speaker 3: I think that's a greater breach than doing the huka

911
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Speaker 3: in the first place. But that's not what I'm talking about.

912
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about the constant misinformation that they spread, which

913
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Speaker 3: no one calls them on. Thomas Coglan of The Herald

914
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Speaker 3: actually did call them on it this past weekend. He

915
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Speaker 3: pointed out the Marty Party has gone on Instagram and

916
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: claimed that the Regulatory Standards Bill would let judges quote

917
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: strike down Maori focused laws. Well, that's not true, and

918
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: as he said, that's flat out wrong. Not long ago,

919
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Speaker 3: as he says, and he's talking about the pandemic here.

920
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Speaker 3: Not long ago, that kind of thing would have been

921
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Speaker 3: labeled misinformation. And you know how that went. Once you

922
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 3: got labeled with some misinformation, you got ridiculed, you got

923
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: mocked by the media, you basically got canceled. Not the

924
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Speaker 3: Marty Party. Their outright FIBs just get waved through, as

925
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Speaker 3: does them accusing other politicians of genocide, as does one

926
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Speaker 3: of them labeling a chap who outlawed homosexuality in his

927
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Speaker 3: country a hero. That kind of divisive, irresponsible and radical

928
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Speaker 3: brand of politics I would hate to see rewarded in

929
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Speaker 3: this by election. And yet they have a chance. It's

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Speaker 3: going to be tight. Last time, there are only forty

931
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Speaker 3: two votes in it and they won it. Since then,

932
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Speaker 3: they've had a huge bump in the polls, They've had

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Speaker 3: massive profile with the Treaty Principal's Bill opposition. They've had

934
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Speaker 3: massive global international attention with the Hucker and there is

935
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Speaker 3: of course the sympathy element because they are the ones

936
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Speaker 3: who've lost their mp But I've got my fingers crossed,

937
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Speaker 3: not because I love what Labour's doing, but just because

938
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Speaker 3: I do not want to see the Maldi Party's way

939
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Speaker 3: of doing politics being seen to pay dividends.

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Speaker 1: Heather dupers a crime.

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Speaker 3: We might actually talk to him about that when he's

942
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Speaker 3: with us after half past seven. Hey, by the way,

943
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Speaker 3: school's back today, So can I just say quick, quick

944
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Speaker 3: congrats to all the parents who've made it through. Get

945
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Speaker 3: yourself a snack. You've done well. Now the Epstein thing,

946
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Speaker 3: the eleven So what's getting people worked up is that

947
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Speaker 3: eleven hour clip right there was outside his cell. It's

948
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Speaker 3: now been this wired. The American Tech magazine has had

949
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Speaker 3: a look at it. They reckon it was likely modified

950
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Speaker 3: using the professional video editing software Adobe Premiere Pro, because

951
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Speaker 3: there's one minute gone, right, so they've got eleven hours.

952
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Speaker 3: One minute has gone the original. All the claimers, oh

953
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Speaker 3: the camera was resetting wired reckoned. Well, there's some bit

954
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Speaker 3: of editing that happened here The footage was assembled from

955
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Speaker 3: at least two source clips. It was then saved multiple

956
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Speaker 3: times and exported before being uploaded to the DOJ website.

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Speaker 3: They're not sure that the edit is the edit, like

958
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Speaker 3: it could be any kind of edit. Maybe it's not

959
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Speaker 3: the removing of the one minute. But it's just going

960
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Speaker 3: to fuel those those theories, isn't it. News is next.

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Speaker 1: To celebrate.

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Speaker 2: Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion, and honored facts.

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Speaker 2: Heather duper se Ellen on the mic, asking breakfast with

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965
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Speaker 3: Boxes with us after eight o'clock. Right now, twenty three

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Speaker 3: away from it, we have Prime Minister Christopher Luxe and

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Speaker 3: morning Chris.

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Speaker 23: Good morning, how are you heading? Thank you very well

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Speaker 23: for someone who's doing early mornings with two little kids.

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Speaker 3: You're looking You're looking lovely in tanned. How was that holiday?

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Speaker 23: Oh, it's great. I had five days off and it

973
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Speaker 23: was just awesome to reintroduce myself to my wife and

974
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Speaker 23: say hello. And we've had lots of just reading and

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Speaker 23: just lazing around. It was just awesome. Pool there was

976
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Speaker 23: a lot of sleep going on. Yeah, which was quite

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Speaker 23: goods just catching up.

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Speaker 3: Did you read the paper this morning?

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Speaker 23: No, I have read the paper.

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Speaker 3: You didn't see the bit that Audrey Young has written,

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Speaker 3: which has got the headline what if the Prime Minister

982
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Speaker 3: fell under a bus?

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Speaker 23: I don't plan on walking in front of any.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't it come back from holiday and Audrey's people.

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Speaker 23: Planning your demise before you've even sort of I know

986
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Speaker 23: I got close to it, and I think I've got

987
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Speaker 23: years ahead of me.

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Speaker 3: Her piece is basically about who would take over who

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Speaker 3: do you read takeover if you fell under a bus?

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Speaker 23: Just not a consideration at this point, and not a consideration.

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Speaker 3: You can't control the bus, Chris. If the buskets you,

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Speaker 3: the buskets.

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Speaker 23: Well I won't. It won't matter because I won't be

994
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Speaker 23: here if the bus hits me.

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Speaker 3: So she's down to Nicola Albish or Erica or Simeon.

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Speaker 23: Well again, what you've seen I think most Zealands will

997
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Speaker 23: see us that I've put together an excellent teeth. I've

998
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Speaker 23: taken the National Party that was a bit functional at

999
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 23: one point a few years back. We've got it as

1000
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Speaker 23: a highly home machine. We've got the right people in

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Speaker 23: the right places on the right assignment. So you're proud

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Speaker 23: of all of my minister's in the right place.

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Speaker 3: Automatically, Nichola's number two, she should do it.

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Speaker 23: Look, we're just we focused on getting on with the

1005
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Speaker 23: job of turning New Zealand around here, as you well know.

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Speaker 23: And it's just not a consideration.

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Speaker 3: Do you do the thing that I do when I'm

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Speaker 3: on holiday, which is it gives me the chance to

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Speaker 3: step back and really percolate the issues that are bothering meat,

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Speaker 3: let them settle, and then I come back with a

1011
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Speaker 3: real kind of drive to change something.

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Speaker 23: I think that's exactly what happens for me as well.

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Speaker 23: I take two, what are you change? And you come

1014
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Speaker 23: back in and you go, right, we've got eighteen months

1015
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Speaker 23: to go. We've got to make sure that we are

1016
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Speaker 23: really fixing this economy because people are still feeling the

1017
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Speaker 23: pain of it. After you've had three years of high inflation.

1018
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Speaker 23: People are still pretty tough out there.

1019
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Speaker 3: And so what did you come up with?

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Speaker 23: Just know, we've just got to focus on making sure

1021
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Speaker 23: that everything we growth.

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Speaker 3: What are you going to do?

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00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 10: Well?

1024
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Speaker 23: We're doing what we are, which is making sure we

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Speaker 23: get that oil and gas band reverse this quarter. That's

1026
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Speaker 23: really important for us because we've got to get energy affordable.

1027
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Speaker 3: It's not bringing in any money because nobody but.

1028
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Speaker 23: Making sure that we can keep at altriacy prices low.

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Speaker 3: For what are you doing, Chris? You got you went

1030
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Speaker 3: around holiday, you thought about it, you decided the economy

1031
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Speaker 3: is the thing that needs fixing. And the big idea

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Speaker 3: that you came back is with this.

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Speaker 23: I'm not saying that, I'm just saying just for me,

1034
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Speaker 23: it's always good to get a bit of perspective to say, yep. Actually,

1035
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Speaker 23: eighteen months to go before the next sellection and the

1036
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Speaker 23: New Zealand people will making decision as to which way

1037
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Speaker 23: they want to go. What they've got to be reassured

1038
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Speaker 23: about is that this progress being made on the economy,

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Speaker 23: that actually are we safer in law and order terms,

1040
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Speaker 23: and are we getting better results in health and education.

1041
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 23: So that's why just I come back and go, yeah,

1042
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Speaker 23: I'm actually I'm really comfortable with the plan that we've got.

1043
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Speaker 23: I think the plan is starting to work. We're dealing

1044
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Speaker 23: with the biggest recession we've had since ninety ninety one.

1045
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Speaker 23: We're turning the joint around it bloom and hard work. Yeah,

1046
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 23: we have to face into some tough decisions. But we're

1047
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 23: doing that well. But we've got to focus on getting

1048
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 23: results for people, and that just you just redouble that

1049
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 23: you get clarity about it, saying we'll actually everything's got

1050
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Speaker 23: to be driving towards them.

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Speaker 3: Let's have a look at the supermarkets. Do you like

1052
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 3: David Seymore's idea of fast tracking a supermarket a third

1053
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Speaker 3: If a third entrant wants to come into the country,

1054
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Speaker 3: you give them fast track as many supermarkets as they

1055
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Speaker 3: went without having to apply for each.

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Speaker 23: To be honest, national loves far tra I mean from

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Speaker 23: day one. Bishop and Jones are the guys that have

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Speaker 23: put in place on planning laws and infrastructure, and they

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Speaker 23: did it. They got going with it. It's fice to

1060
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Speaker 23: say Niicla Willis is all over fast track and considering

1061
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Speaker 23: it in the space around supermarkets has been for some time.

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Speaker 3: So this she may do this to help the super.

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Speaker 23: I don't want to get ahead of herself because she's

1064
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Speaker 23: got a process that she's following and she's doing everything

1065
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Speaker 23: we can to leave no stone unturned, you know, to

1066
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Speaker 23: make sure that there is doing everything we can to

1067
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Speaker 23: get a third operator in or to do everything to

1068
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Speaker 23: get the settings right. And one of those things is

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Speaker 23: we're up fast track. I mean we love fast track.

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Speaker 23: I mean it was a national part of New Zealand.

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Speaker 23: First corruption you know that we put together from day

1072
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Speaker 23: one to try and shock the system to actually get

1073
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Speaker 23: things built of this stuff.

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Speaker 3: Just say corruption, did you?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, a construction.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, it's very little sleep still here that I'm still

1077
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Speaker 3: a little like, bro, what are you going to do

1078
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 3: about the brain drain? Because those numbers are worring?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, look, I mean just a bit of context. Go

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Speaker 23: back and look at the GFC. There was six years

1081
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Speaker 23: there when the numbers were higher the last year of labor.

1082
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Speaker 23: This our first year and twenty four same numbers. Really,

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Speaker 23: it just underscores why do people go to Australia they

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Speaker 23: think they can earn more income. We've got to make

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Speaker 23: sure they can earn more income and hire and comes

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Speaker 23: here in New.

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Speaker 3: Zealand because it sucks here. Right, It's because in their opinion,

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Speaker 3: it sucks here.

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Speaker 23: But christ but that's what that's my job, right as

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Speaker 23: our job is to make sure that if you're going

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Speaker 23: to work hard, you can get ahead, if you actually

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Speaker 23: can walk the streets and feel safe in your community. Actually,

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Speaker 23: you feel like the education system for your kids is

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Speaker 23: going to be gets setting them up.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 23: Actually, appearance they any healthcare support, they can get access

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Speaker 23: to it. So that's why it's pretty boring. But those

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Speaker 23: are the things that we're very focused on.

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Speaker 22: Right.

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Speaker 3: But it's eighteen months in right, so I feel like

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Speaker 3: at this stage what they are leaving for, they are

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Speaker 3: leaving because you haven't changed things yet.

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Speaker 23: Well, we're dealing with the biggest recession since we've had

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Speaker 23: since the early nineties. That's been clear about. It's been

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Speaker 23: worse than the GFC. As I said to you, you know,

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Speaker 23: we're doing making sure that inflanation's coming down and tranest

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Speaker 23: rates are coming down. We're giving people tax relief. We've

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Speaker 23: got the economy growing. You would have seen in the

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Speaker 23: first quarter results that we grew the economy four times

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Speaker 23: faster than Australia and many Western economies. YEP, it's tough, Yes,

1111
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 23: it's hard. Yes, it's a grind as we get the

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Speaker 23: car out of the ditch and turned up the right

1113
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Speaker 23: way and into first and second gear.

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Speaker 3: But apart from the slogans, what have you actually done?

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00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 3: I mean, apart from yeah, absolutely you gave the tax

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00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: concession and the budget. Well, it's a fazz thing, right.

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Speaker 23: If you really care about people a lower middle income

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Speaker 23: working New Zealanders, you run the economy well, so you

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00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 23: don't increase government'spenning eighty four percent that drives inflation to

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Speaker 23: seven points.

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Speaker 3: We haven't read increased it very much.

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Speaker 13: Well, we have.

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Speaker 23: Actually, we've actually saved twenty three billion dollars last year,

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Speaker 23: twenty one billion this year and reprioritized that spending into

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Speaker 23: the frontline services and being able to invest more in health,

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Speaker 23: more in education.

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Speaker 3: All again, Yeah, you've spent it on something.

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Speaker 23: We've redestroyed it and reprioritized it from the back office,

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Speaker 23: as we've said, to the frontline, and that's been a

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Speaker 23: good result. So, I mean, the things that we're doing

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Speaker 23: to get our kids back to school, to get them

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Speaker 23: to do maths and reading and the basics and education

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Speaker 23: well are great. We put a record investment into healthcare.

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Speaker 23: We've got more workforce being hired, more nurses, more doctors

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Speaker 23: being hired than we've ever had in this country. We've

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Speaker 23: got clarity on the out on the results. We're starting

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Speaker 23: to see a little bit of improvement on those weightless

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Speaker 23: times for things like elective surgeries. They went up. I

1139
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 23: mean we had a thousand people on the weight list

1140
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Speaker 23: when we left government. We had twenty eight thousand when

1141
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Speaker 23: we came back to go okay, So using private hospitals, well,

1142
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Speaker 23: I know that those we.

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Speaker 3: Know, the last lot stuffed it up. I'm just looking

1144
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Speaker 3: for you guys to actually show us that you're fixing

1145
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 3: it on the road cones. What are you actually doing

1146
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 3: about the road cones? What do we supporse? What can

1147
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 3: we do here to get rid of these road codes?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, so Chris Biship's doing something which is the pressures

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Speaker 23: on the counts. First of all, if you zoom out,

1150
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 23: we spend seven hundred and fifty million dollars three quarters

1151
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Speaker 23: of a billion dollars on traffic management through the NZTA,

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Speaker 23: A lone.

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Speaker 3: The road counter, right, so what do we actually need

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Speaker 3: to do.

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Speaker 23: What's going to happen is Chris Bishop will be linking

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Speaker 23: funding to councils based on a risk making sure they

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Speaker 23: take a risk based approach to road cone management. Because

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Speaker 23: what's happening is it's actually sitting with councils.

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Speaker 3: That's where so there is nothing that you can change

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Speaker 3: about regulations or least.

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Speaker 23: Watch the space. Chris Bishop's working that up with some

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Speaker 23: more to say about that and what you'll have more

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Speaker 23: to say about it shortly, do you know what it is?

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Speaker 13: It is?

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Speaker 23: But basically what he's saying is we want to see

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Speaker 23: councils take what's called a risk based approach to management

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Speaker 23: of clients, and he will link the funding that councils

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Speaker 23: get from central government to that task of making sure.

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Speaker 1: How do you so, how do you do that?

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Speaker 3: How can you possibly do that? So do you have

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Speaker 3: somebody who goes there and stands look you and says

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Speaker 3: you should have fifty cones here, but you've got five hundred.

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Speaker 3: So we're cutting your funde?

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Speaker 23: Well, yeah, your fund you're making assessment about how much

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Speaker 23: money is needed as part of the projects that the

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Speaker 23: central government funds and partnership with local government.

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Speaker 3: As I said, so they won't have enough money for

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Speaker 3: all of the road code.

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Speaker 23: Well, they'll make sure that. He'll make sure that the

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Speaker 23: funding is provided on making sure that the councils have

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Speaker 23: implemented as we called a risk based approach. And we've

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Speaker 23: got sensible stuff going on around road cones, not dumb stuff. Okay,

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Speaker 23: you can drive around this country. You see road cones

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Speaker 23: up all up and down the country. We're all over it.

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Speaker 23: I'd just say NZTA. Already they've started to decrease the

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Speaker 23: spending that they've got on road cones already. They was,

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Speaker 23: as I said, they're spending three quarters of a billion

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Speaker 23: dollars just from.

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Speaker 3: Central Let me understand this. So, are you decreasing how

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Speaker 3: much money they're allowed to have for the road cones

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Speaker 3: or are you saying if you have too many road cones,

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Speaker 3: we cut your funding.

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Speaker 23: We're going to make sure that they actually change their

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Speaker 23: policies that when they're putting road cones in place for

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Speaker 23: projects that councils are undertaking on local roads and all

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Speaker 23: that stuff where the problems often sit, that they are

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Speaker 23: actual if they haven't yet, They've got to make sure

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Speaker 23: they've got a risk based approach. They've actually got as

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Speaker 23: minimal road cones as they need to keep people safe

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Speaker 23: but not inconvenience people, and CRESS will link funding to that.

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Speaker 23: That's all I'm going to say about that. That's the

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Speaker 23: mechanism that is.

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Speaker 3: Whin's this announcement coming.

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Speaker 23: It'll be within the next month or so.

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Speaker 3: Okay, is it an MCTA problem They're the ones writing

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Speaker 3: the rules.

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Speaker 23: Well, no, there's two bits to it. The government does

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Speaker 23: obviously maintenance of state highways, okay, and then local councils

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Speaker 23: do maintenance of local roads. As I said that we

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Speaker 23: had no visibility over how much central government was spending

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Speaker 23: on road codes. We found out at seven and seven

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Speaker 23: hundred and fifty million dollars. They've already NCATA started to

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Speaker 23: build the risk management stuff into what they're doing and

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Speaker 23: that cost is coming down, which is a good thing.

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Speaker 23: And we've got to make sure that councils when they

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Speaker 23: actually fund the private roads, they're public roads, local roads.

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Speaker 23: Actually they're doing the same thing. And that's why we'll

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Speaker 23: link the funding to that approach to managing codes.

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Speaker 3: Do you are you rooting for Labor in the by election?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 23: Look, I mean god knows, because I mean the question

1222
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Speaker 23: is whether are they going to have a fear fight

1223
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 23: or is going to be a pillow fight because you know,

1224
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Speaker 23: I felt sorry for Peenie here or a last time

1225
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 23: because frankly, Chris Heptins didn't challenge that close results and

1226
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Speaker 23: sort of hung them out to dry. Let's be clear

1227
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Speaker 23: whether it's to Party MARII or Labour. Frankly, they've got

1228
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Speaker 23: the same crazy policies, you know, which is being more

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Speaker 23: bodib more respect crime at least one of the respects

1230
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Speaker 23: of the rules around health and education outcomes, you know,

1231
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Speaker 23: like that, it's the same thing. And they want to

1232
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Speaker 23: be they want to be in government with these guys, right,

1233
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 23: they want to Labor wants to be a power to

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00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 23: party Marty. So, I mean, it's that's going to be

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Speaker 23: fascinating to watch.

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Speaker 3: Do you not agree though? At least labor respects the

1237
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Speaker 3: rules and the media doesn't give them.

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Speaker 23: A free labor economic vandals and mismanagers on an extraordinary scale,

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Speaker 23: soft on crime, andsmal healthy education.

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Speaker 3: Now you go to your lines out all right, Hey,

1241
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Speaker 3: thank you very much, Chriss, loving to have you back.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you, Chris Lux and Prime Minister thirteen

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Speaker 3: away from it.

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1246
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Speaker 3: That we're not scraping barnacles off the boat now we're

1247
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 3: getting the car out of the ditch. Come back from holiday, Heather,

1248
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Speaker 3: Has he come back with a vision for the country, No,

1249
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 3: just the word salad of nothing. Hither theomy has got

1250
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,479
Speaker 3: worse under national Heather. It took six years to wreck

1251
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 3: the country. You cannot fix that in eighteen months, which

1252
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 3: is a fair point. Which is a fair point, but

1253
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: surely in eighteen months you would at least start showing

1254
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Speaker 3: that you're doing something about it.

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00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 23: We're up for fast track or we love fast track.

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Speaker 3: Hmm yeah.

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Speaker 10: Hey.

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Speaker 3: By the way, though that I think, I think if

1259
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 3: there's one thing that we got out of that that

1260
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 3: we should take some heart from, it's that possibly David

1261
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 3: Seymour's idea of the supermarket thing, where you fast track

1262
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 3: the supermarkets so they can have they could just get

1263
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 3: permission to open about ten of them at once, rather

1264
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 3: than going one by one, you know, taking three years

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00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 3: thirty years before you get a supermarket. At least that

1266
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 3: idea is probably it sounds like got some traction with them, Heather.

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00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 3: It's the traffic management organizations that set the policy for

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00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 3: how many road cones are required. Hither, I cannot believe

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00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 3: that you spent so much of the valuable time you

1270
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 3: had talking to the Prime Minister about road cones. I'm sorry,

1271
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 3: but there are more bloody serious issues in the country

1272
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 3: to be talking about now. That is an absolutely fair point. However,

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Speaker 3: I think, can I just make this case to you

1274
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 3: that the road cone situation, I think is emblematic of

1275
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 3: what is going on with this government at the moment.

1276
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 3: So we all know we've got an issue. So it's

1277
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 3: an emblem right, We've got an issue with the road cones.

1278
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 3: There are too many of them out there. So the

1279
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 3: government comes out goes, hey, listen, we've got the tip line.

1280
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: Let's sort it out with the tip line. So we all,

1281
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 3: you know, get excited about the tip line. Is it

1282
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 3: actually changing the fundamental problem? No it isn't. In which case,

1283
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 3: what is it. It's just a performance and I think

1284
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 3: there's too much of that going on. Is there anything

1285
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: changing about the supermarkets? Get No, there isn't. They've written

1286
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: letters that ask for RFIs it's just a performance. Is

1287
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 3: there anything changing about the cost of living in the

1288
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: butter No, there isn't. They've called Fronterra in for a meeting.

1289
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 3: Is anything going to change, No it isn't. So road

1290
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 3: cones are I think if you think, hmm, what's going on,

1291
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,479
Speaker 3: just think about the road cones. They're pretending to change

1292
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 3: things and nothing's actually changing. Eight away from a.

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Speaker 23: Yes, it's a grind. As we get the car out

1294
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 23: of the ditch, and turned up the right way and

1295
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 23: into first the second gear.

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Speaker 2: Here they do for Sellen f on the Mic Hosking

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Speaker 2: Breakfast with the Landrover Discovery News Togs dead b here.

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Speaker 3: How can the government reduce the price of butter when

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Speaker 3: they don't control the expls prices and those same export

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Speaker 3: prices are keeping this country afloat after a complete financial

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Speaker 3: blowout by label Well, I think we know you can't

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Speaker 3: listen if you're worried about forever chemicals, right, and there

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Speaker 3: are quite a few people worried about this. Now it's

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Speaker 3: got the forever chemicals. If you're worried about that, I've

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Speaker 3: got some good news for you. There's some new research

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Speaker 3: that reckons it's you can actually get them out of

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Speaker 3: your body. It's not totally forever. It just from the

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Speaker 3: University of Cambridge. They reckon that there are some gut

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Speaker 3: microbes that absorb them and then they help you know,

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Speaker 3: you basically poop them out. The good news is especially

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Speaker 3: good news because up to now there has only been

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Speaker 3: a couple of ways that you've been able to get

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Speaker 3: rid of the old forever chemicals out of your body.

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Speaker 3: One of them was a cholesterol drug that was pretty

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Speaker 3: gross to take. The other one was bloodletting, which is

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Speaker 3: pretty intense anyway, Several of the author's studies reckon what

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Speaker 3: they need to do is just develop probiotic dietary supplements

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Speaker 3: that will boost those microbes and the gut, the human gut,

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Speaker 3: and then outcomes the forever chemicals.

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Speaker 5: For you have about the microplastics and the heavy metals,

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Speaker 5: Can we do those as well?

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Speaker 1: Or no?

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Speaker 10: Not yet.

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Speaker 3: Now we're just stealing on one thing aat of time,

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Speaker 3: one thing at a time. Yet get that car out

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Speaker 3: of that ditch?

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Speaker 13: Now?

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Speaker 3: Is this weird? I think this is weird, But I

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Speaker 3: also don't want to be sort of, you know, overreacting

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Speaker 3: to things. But my bank sent me the other day,

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Speaker 3: and perhaps other people are having this. My bank sent

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Speaker 3: me the other day and a letter which I don't

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Speaker 3: really enjoy getting, and the leader just outlined, outlined all

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Speaker 3: my my loan detail. I didn't like looking at that,

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Speaker 3: I said, I don't need that because I've got an app,

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Speaker 3: and I look at it on the app and I

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Speaker 3: know exactly what's going on. Don't send it to me,

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Speaker 3: and they said to me, you cannot opt out of this.

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Speaker 3: We are now sending all of our customers their loan

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Speaker 3: details and you know what they're up, Yeah, up to

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Speaker 3: your gills and debt. Blah blah blah. We're going to

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Speaker 3: send it in the mail. Thank you for your response.

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Speaker 3: At this stage you are not able to opt out

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Speaker 3: and again noted your concerns providing feedback to our team

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Speaker 3: the option of Well is this just me? And are

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Speaker 3: they worried about me? Or is this something that everybody's

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Speaker 3: having to do?

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Speaker 1: The news and the newsmakers and the duper c Allen

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Speaker 1: on the mic asking.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast with Alzida, retirement, communities, life your Way, news talks, head.

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Speaker 1: Be spro.

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Speaker 24: Is no wrong, no wrong come and I'll say that'll

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Speaker 24: do the Blackburn's Dominance fifty seven twelve, They beat the

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Speaker 24: Woolaroos and Wellington the.

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Speaker 14: All Blacks twenty three, Front seventeen, Your black Boat turner

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Speaker 14: up in the series and a much approved performance in

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Speaker 14: front of the Wellington Faithful to nine.

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Speaker 1: Year runs wins from by thirty four to fourteen. It's

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Speaker 1: not at Center's time to shine. Head wibledon.

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Speaker 13: A show of course to get thrown his rival here.

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Speaker 24: Hicks and looks to take the move, but Polo the

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Speaker 24: covige Hello, will.

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Speaker 14: Lead his teammate home. It won't be again nappy one.

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Speaker 18: Too, added Pollo, We'll take the victory, and.

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Speaker 2: The Monday Morning commentary barks on the mic asking breakfast

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Speaker 2: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 2: over fifty years.

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Speaker 3: I pass stated with me we have Andrew Saville and

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Speaker 3: Jason Pine lads. Hello morning, ki hear that sav Sinner

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Speaker 3: wins Wimbledon. What do you think?

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Speaker 14: I just can't warm to this guy A little bit

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Speaker 14: like Djokovic, I suppose, But he's a he's done well

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Speaker 14: since he came back from his drug layoff.

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Speaker 10: That's why that's.

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Speaker 3: Why I was asking you that question, Save, because it's

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Speaker 3: a little bit.

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Speaker 14: Look, look, he's a he's a good tennis Player's he's well,

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Speaker 14: he's a hicck of a tennis play. He's always been

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Speaker 14: destined for the for the top. I think he was

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Speaker 14: an outstanding junior as well. And look, tennis here the

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Speaker 14: needs rivalries to to get into the public eye and

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Speaker 14: to succeed, and I've got one here in ciner Alchaaz,

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Speaker 14: So I think it's it's really good for the game

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Speaker 14: of tennis. Women's. On the other hand, when you win

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Speaker 14: a Grand Slam final six love, six love, and this

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Speaker 14: does happen sometimes in finals where one player just falls

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Speaker 14: over totally, a few concerns of women's tennis that just

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Speaker 14: doesn't have the depth.

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Speaker 13: That used to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you reckon happen there? Piney? I mean, jeez,

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Speaker 3: that is that's an absolute down trowling, isn't it.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, it's it's the worst time to get what they

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Speaker 25: call the double bagel, the six love, six love. Anisimova

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Speaker 25: just no match for fion Tech. I think Fiontech's very

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Speaker 25: very good player. You know, she's been in six Grand

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Speaker 25: Slam finals now and won them all. She was only

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Speaker 25: the eighth seed, So it's a I mean, whereas Sinner

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Speaker 25: and Alcaraz are clearly the top two in the men's game,

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Speaker 25: there are you know, any number of players who can

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Speaker 25: on their day do okay in the women's game. But yeah,

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Speaker 25: Sav's right when you when you pay money for a

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Speaker 25: Grand Slam final and you settle down with your strawberries

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Speaker 25: and cream and your poms or whatever it is that

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Speaker 25: you're that you're enjoying in the game's all over in

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Speaker 25: less than an hour.

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Speaker 3: Wellmotion, they're distressing as well, isn't it to watch that happen?

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Speaker 3: Like that's like horror?

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Speaker 13: Over?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, over as well, it's it's I just have to

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Speaker 25: go move on, I guess, But I was.

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Speaker 3: Just thinking feeling piney for the crowd. I mean, sitting

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Speaker 3: there watching somebody get demolished. Is it's just rough? It's not.

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Speaker 3: That's not pleasurable, is it?

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Speaker 13: No? I guess not. I guess not.

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Speaker 3: It was being completely and utterly selfish. I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to lie about it now. Sav What do you think

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Speaker 3: of Christian Horner getting the sack?

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Speaker 14: A little bit shocking to come during the season, but

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Speaker 14: at the same time not not completely because he'd been

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Speaker 14: at odds with the stapp and family. I think Max

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Speaker 14: gets on with them, okay, but he's a prickly He's

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Speaker 14: a prickly man. There were there reence cident?

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Speaker 10: Was it last year?

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Speaker 13: Was a staff member?

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Speaker 14: He winds everybody up in the pits from other teams,

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Speaker 14: which which I suppose that's one of his key jobs

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Speaker 14: is to win and get under people's skin. Look, there's

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Speaker 14: no doubt about it that Red Bulls had an immense

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Speaker 14: success under Christian Horner, but recent times suggests they're on

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Speaker 14: the wing.

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Speaker 3: Piney, do you think that this changes the game at

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Speaker 3: all when you're thinking about what happens with Max for Stappin,

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Speaker 3: what happens with Liam Lawson? Does it change the calculation?

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Speaker 13: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 25: All reports are that for Stappin is looking around at

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Speaker 25: other options at the end of this season. You know,

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Speaker 25: it's it's been a very challenging season for Red Bull.

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Speaker 25: What's for stap In one two of the last twelve

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Speaker 25: Formula One races. He is still an absolute genius, but

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Speaker 25: there's clearly something wrong with the car as far as

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Speaker 25: you know, people's ability to drive it and certainly the

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Speaker 25: second seat.

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Speaker 13: I mean, so notas be been nowhere.

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Speaker 25: Lawson was given the flick after two races and probably

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Speaker 25: is quite thankful for that now that he's in the

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Speaker 25: Racing Bull stable. When this happened goes, If that happens,

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Speaker 25: obviously there will be a refresh in that Red Bull team.

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Speaker 25: Will will Liam be back and the Red Bull team

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Speaker 25: don't know either.

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Speaker 14: I would imagine they've done. Red Bull's done this to

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Speaker 14: try and retain backs for staffing because his talk He's

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Speaker 14: off to Mercedes, right, yeah, yeah, have you have you

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Speaker 14: watched Drive to Survive?

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Speaker 13: If? Oh really?

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, well.

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Speaker 14: What were you doing on your maternity leave?

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Speaker 3: Try living? Trying to survive? Okay, but I know that

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Speaker 3: it's Look, it's on my list. I've got to get

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Speaker 3: through to Cinder's book and then a bunch of other

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Speaker 3: books and then I'm going to get to Drive to Survive.

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Speaker 14: But tell me what you were going to say about it,

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Speaker 14: your will to watch anything or read anything after reading

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Speaker 14: that book, it will have totally vanished getting there by

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Speaker 14: that stage. No, he just again, he he he. He's

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Speaker 14: a prickly character. He has been with Toto Wolf, the

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Speaker 14: head of Mercedes, quite quite entertaining at times. But and again,

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Speaker 14: sport needs us here, ies needs as villains. Clearly, red

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Speaker 14: Ball making a move to try and keep the step.

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Speaker 3: You're two villainous in the end. Now, listen, this idea

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Speaker 3: of an O n Z Invitational fifteen sounds like we

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Speaker 3: need to ditch this quick, smart Piney or am I

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Speaker 3: being harsh?

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Speaker 25: Or the rugby game on Saturday night against the Lions yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 25: well yeah, I'd look at the scoreboard forty eight. Now

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Speaker 25: it's some similar to what happened in the Wimbledon Women's final,

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Speaker 25: isn't it. It's Look, I don't mind the I don't

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Speaker 25: mind the concept. They clearly had a spare Saturday nights

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Speaker 25: on the tour before we get to the Test matches

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Speaker 25: that they wanted to fill in some fashion.

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Speaker 13: I didn't watch the game, I go on from the

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Speaker 13: All Blacks. I was pretty rinsed.

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Speaker 25: I saw some highlights, and I mean, when you when

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Speaker 25: you don't score a point in a game of rugby,

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01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 25: things haven't gone well for you, let alone conceding forty

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Speaker 25: eight at the other end.

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Speaker 13: Look, I don't mind the idea, and.

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Speaker 25: The team actually looked okay on paper, but clearly no

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Speaker 25: match for a British and Irish Lions team that's been

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Speaker 25: together now for the best part of a month to

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Speaker 25: six weeks and is really starting to hit its straps

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Speaker 25: against the Test ahead of the Chest series.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we'll take a break, come back talk about

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Speaker 3: the All Blacks. Fourteen past eight.

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Speaker 2: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 21: EP seventeen Past eight, the Monday Morning Commentary Box on

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Speaker 21: the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses

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Speaker 3: Sav Are you happy with what you saw from the

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Speaker 3: All Blacks?

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Speaker 5: Yes, generally hit it first half very good.

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Speaker 14: The quick type of football there trying to play worked

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Speaker 14: much better effort at the breakdown from the All Blacks

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Speaker 14: a much more umph.

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Speaker 10: Kicking game was better.

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Speaker 14: Not entirely satisfied with the kicking game in general, but

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Speaker 14: better in patches. And I thought that the first half

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Speaker 14: they looked absolutely unbeatable. Our second half few eras you know,

1512
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 14: their benches are clear games tend to lose their way,

1513
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 14: few more eras from the All Blacks. I'll be wanting

1514
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 14: to tidy that up. The big question here that well,

1515
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 14: a couple of points. Now what You've got to take

1516
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 14: this into context. You're playing a French team that had

1517
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 14: whatpped ten changes third string players, so that needs to

1518
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 14: be put into some sort of context. But at least

1519
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 14: the All Blacks played well, getting confidence up, installing new

1520
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 14: game plans. Big question is how many changes will they

1521
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 14: make for Hamilton, because I'm sure they'd want to whap

1522
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 14: the French again and win in comfortably and convincingly the

1523
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 14: series three zip.

1524
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably need a bit of that, but you know,

1525
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 3: just to give themselves a bit of a confidence boost.

1526
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 3: But party, what do you reckon? What happened here? Was

1527
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 3: it that they blew the cobwebs out in the first game?

1528
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think there was part of that.

1529
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 25: I think we also got an inflated view of how

1530
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 25: good France are in Dunedin, largely because the All Blacks

1531
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 25: weren't anywhere close to where they could have been. You're right,

1532
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 25: week together, they got rid of a bit of rust,

1533
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 25: got some combinations going that sort of thing. Yeah, I

1534
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 25: think this is a pretty pretty deflated French side now

1535
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 25: heading to Hamilton. Well, they're not even going to Hamilton,

1536
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 25: are they They're going to Auckland. They'll probably jump off

1537
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 25: the sky tower, head out to Wahiki Island and do

1538
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 25: some stuff like that. I fear for them on on

1539
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 25: Saturday night in Hamilton, if I'm honest, Heather, I think

1540
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 25: they will ring the changes to the All Blacks. But

1541
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 25: the guys who come in the likes of Reuben Love

1542
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 25: and Noah host Them and others who haven't had an

1543
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 25: opportunity in the series will be absolutely fizzing to you know,

1544
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 25: to catch the eye of the coach. So I think

1545
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 25: this has headed in a very similar way to to

1546
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 25: what we saw on Saturday night.

1547
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 13: The All Blacks look good. As I've said in the

1548
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 13: first half, thought they.

1549
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 25: Were terrific to Porvai continues to stand out on that

1550
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 25: six jersey.

1551
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 13: He'll miss the weekend. He's taking aheadnock.

1552
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 25: But you know, I like the way he goes about

1553
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 25: things and cam Royguard for me, just continues to prove

1554
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 25: what a terrific half back he is.

1555
01:09:59,040 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 8: Is it what?

1556
01:09:59,360 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 13: Sorry?

1557
01:09:59,720 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: Is it?

1558
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 13: Two? Work?

1559
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: Our boy?

1560
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 10: Isn't he?

1561
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 13: I think he might be? Yeah, I always just treated

1562
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 13: him as a hurricane.

1563
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 14: Really what I think he I think he grew up

1564
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 14: in Cambridge. I think he's but but he's played a

1565
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 14: lot of his football in the in the counties area.

1566
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 12: There we go.

1567
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 3: See he's one of me. It's basically my cousin. Did

1568
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 3: you see sav By the way this was pointed out to.

1569
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 10: Me, are you from there?

1570
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:21,879
Speaker 14: Are you a Steeler?

1571
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 25: Are you?

1572
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1573
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 3: Took our hard two six three two six nine something

1574
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 3: like that phone number. You know, if you think you're

1575
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 3: a little fun you run around with the first three digits,

1576
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 3: which is what we did.

1577
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 14: Did you see he plays with a bit of that

1578
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 14: sort of duplicicy alum fire and his belly Cam roy Gard,

1579
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 14: he's playing.

1580
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I'm going to take that as a compliment.

1581
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 3: Thanks for that, Sam. Did you see the stunt that

1582
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 3: the Saphas pulls, by the way, speaking of duplessy people,

1583
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 3: they pulled against Italy. Did you see them?

1584
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 13: Yes? I did.

1585
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 14: I saw the kickoff? Talk about what's World Right be

1586
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 14: going to do?

1587
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 10: Now?

1588
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 14: They're probably going to come up with a rule that

1589
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 14: you can't do that you restart, but not a kickoff

1590
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,759
Speaker 14: that the rule makers will be sitting there in Dublin

1591
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 14: the head off of scratching their heads over this. Good on?

1592
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 14: So in Africa though, why not? Yeah?

1593
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna have to come back to that.

1594
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 10: Listen.

1595
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 3: I can't not deal with the Warriors. I mean, this

1596
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 3: is Mike's show, right, So Piney is their life after

1597
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 3: Luke Metcalf.

1598
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 25: Well it looks like it. Yeah, it's only the West Tigers.

1599
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 25: Letst I get two carried away. They're not a great team.

1600
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 25: I thought Tanner Boyd was good and has certainly earned

1601
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 25: the opportunity to continue to wear that seven jersey. They've

1602
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 25: got tougher games ahead, but it was important that they

1603
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 25: won this game off the back of what a couple

1604
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 25: of buyers and a couple of losses. Lekka Hellasima Heather.

1605
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 25: This kid, he's only nineteen years old. My god, what

1606
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 25: a player he could be. So yeah, I think there

1607
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 25: were some nice green shoots there yesterday for the Warriors.

1608
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1609
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 3: Can he though, and I'm talking about ton of boyd here?

1610
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 3: Can he sav take them to the playoffs?

1611
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 13: Big question?

1612
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 14: You always need a you need a star six and

1613
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 14: seven and or to make the finals and to push

1614
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 14: for a title. I don't know, did you. Let's see

1615
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 14: when they come up against some top teams. I think

1616
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 14: they got the Knights next week, not a top top team,

1617
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 14: but let's just see consistency wise, and let's see against

1618
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 14: big name teams what he can do.

1619
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, brilliant stuff. Guy's good to talk to you. Thank you.

1620
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 3: That's the commentary box Andrew Saville and Jason Pine. Yeah,

1621
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 3: I'll tell you about what the South Africans did. Also,

1622
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 3: the boss went to a dog hotel. You got to

1623
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 3: hear about this. I think twenty two.

1624
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: Here the duplicy Allen on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

1625
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 2: Bailey's Real Estate News dogs, they'd be okay.

1626
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 3: So this is what the South Africans did at the

1627
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 3: start of their game against Italy, right, So they take

1628
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 3: the kick off, tiny little punt, just a tiny little whoopy,

1629
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 3: and a player runs up grabs it offside immediately for

1630
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 3: forces a penalty. They force the penalty and then as

1631
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 3: a result they call they get a scrumb awarded against them,

1632
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 3: and they scrum. And the point of that, the reason

1633
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 3: they did that was in order to be able to

1634
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 3: do with scrum, because they were backing themselves on the

1635
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 3: old scrum and thought that they would be better than

1636
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 3: the Italians, and on a good day they would be.

1637
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 3: But unfortunately, this time their balls the scrum up and

1638
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 3: they lost it. However, However, as Sam was saying, wild

1639
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 3: Rugby is going to have a good long think about

1640
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 3: this now, Aren't that because they don't want the game

1641
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 3: to start with a scrum because scrum suck. Scrums are

1642
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 3: really boring. Nobody wants to watch that in the first

1643
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 3: ten seconds of a game, do they anyway? Don't know,

1644
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 3: I don't quite know how they're going to deal with

1645
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 3: it because it seems like a legit move. And but

1646
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 3: by the way, on that Mike Cron, the Master of

1647
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 3: all scrums, is going to be on the show later

1648
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 3: this week, so I'm just gonna hit him with the

1649
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 3: scrum suck idea and see where we go with that.

1650
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 3: I think it's going to go down as well as

1651
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 3: me telling Damien McKenzie that maybe we should stop kicking.

1652
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 3: Although you will notice that they did that in the game.

1653
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 3: They took the advice and they didn't kick that much

1654
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 3: and look what happened. You're welcome.

1655
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 10: Here you go.

1656
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 3: Eight twenty six. Now the boss has gone. The boss

1657
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 3: was very excited this weekend she's coming and he's told

1658
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 3: me about it. Extremely exciting. They went to treat themselves.

1659
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 3: They went to a hotel this weekend, he and his

1660
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 3: wife with the corgies. It's a dog hotel. It's one

1661
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 3: where they make a fuss of the corkies. And so

1662
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 3: he said it was just the most cute thing because

1663
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,839
Speaker 3: they had all these attendants coming in to help the corkies.

1664
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 3: That one person came in and brought the corgie some beds.

1665
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 3: Another one came in and brought the corgies the menus

1666
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 3: and you could choose anywhere. It's about six different options

1667
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 3: to feed the corkies. It was steaked out air with

1668
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 3: a little egg on the top, or there was some

1669
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 3: risotto with either a pork or something. I don't really know. Anyway,

1670
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 3: they took the corgies down to dinner. The corgies had

1671
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 3: their meal, they were having their The corgi's food was

1672
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 3: apparently better than the human food, and they just thought

1673
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 3: it was. They just no regrets about spending five hundred

1674
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 3: dollars on the dog experience. Now as somebody who doesn't

1675
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 3: own a dog, you realize I don't know if he

1676
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 3: realizes how mental that sounds. That sounds mental to me.

1677
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 3: Does it sound mental to you? I'm just wondering if

1678
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 3: dogs are the new children, like, take your dog out

1679
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 3: and enjoy it instead of your children. News is next.

1680
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day.

1681
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 2: Heather Duper c Allen on the mic, asking breakfast with

1682
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: the land Rover Discovery, never stop discovering news.

1683
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 3: Dogs head be Heather, Dogs beat children anytime. I've got

1684
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 3: five kids and I've got two dogs, and the dogs

1685
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 3: dogs weren't easily. I noticed you didn't put your name

1686
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 3: on that text, and I probably would do the same

1687
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 3: thing if I was you. It gets worse, by the way,

1688
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 3: than what I just told you before. So one of

1689
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 3: the doggies is called Ernie, Ernie the Corky. Ernie's got

1690
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 3: his own. You can go on Instagram. You look up

1691
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 3: and Ernie Ernie the Corky. You can see Ernie's life

1692
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 3: is laid out in full detail for you. Boss came

1693
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 3: in before after I chatted and said I had to

1694
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 3: look at these meals. I had a look at them.

1695
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 3: I thought, she's I'd eat that like that. Risotto had

1696
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,560
Speaker 3: a lot of really gigantic get amami beans in it

1697
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 3: that looked actually delicious. Anyway, So Ernie the Corgy is

1698
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 3: the one that's been around the longest. He's been with

1699
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 3: him for ten years. He had his tenth birthday a

1700
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, and they threw a surprise birthday,

1701
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 3: as in, they surprised Ernie, given that Ernie can't speak English.

1702
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 3: I feel like everything is a surprise for Ernie in

1703
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 3: his life, but this was a particularly big surprise. Strapped

1704
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 3: one of those little cork cone hats on his head

1705
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 3: and they kept him in the bedroom and everybody came.

1706
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 3: Forty two people were at this party, some of them

1707
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 3: had flown in from christ Church, and everybody waited and

1708
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 3: opened the doors Ernie. And you should have seen the

1709
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,759
Speaker 3: look on Ernie's face. Ernie came galloping down that corridor.

1710
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 3: He was so excited, and he looked at everybody and

1711
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 3: they had a party fro him. At this point, I

1712
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 3: couldn't ask any more questions because I was like, I'm

1713
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 3: already kind of like my mind is blown. I don't

1714
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 3: want to know if there was cake or special Ernie

1715
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 3: food or anything, because already I'm it's an alternative case.

1716
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 3: You can do those things, can you? Anyway? I feel

1717
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 3: considerably less bad about all the times I talk about

1718
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 3: my children on air and to you, to you and

1719
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 3: to my work mates. When I go on and on

1720
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 3: about my children, I feel less bad about it, because

1721
01:16:55,280 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 3: at least they're human. Anyway away, he sounds pretty even

1722
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 3: to me. It's twenty one away from.

1723
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 2: Nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of

1724
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,440
Speaker 2: Mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 3: Out of Australia Correspondent Leslie Yeomans's last morning, Leslie.

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Speaker 26: Morning, I'm invested in Ernie now too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to go.

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Speaker 3: And follow the Instagram. It's actually worth it.

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Speaker 26: It's actually talk about yeah two yeah.

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Speaker 3: Better than children. Tell me about your women. You've been

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Speaker 3: bringing them move into the country.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 26: Look, these two French women have come in from Southeast

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Speaker 26: Asia and they've had thirty two kilograms of metham fetterment

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Speaker 26: in their luggage. Now they've been picked up at Brisbane Airport.

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Speaker 26: They were nineteen and twenty years old. They have, as

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Speaker 26: I said, have come in from Southeast Asia, but they're

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Speaker 26: not the first. The week before there were two others

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Speaker 26: who also were picked up with a large quantity of

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Speaker 26: drugs in their luggage and Federal Police believed that actually

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Speaker 26: obviously more people have been involved in in getting them here,

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Speaker 26: but they've also they've also come through other countries to

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Speaker 26: get here. Now they've appeared in court and they're going

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Speaker 26: they're going to be a reappearing out later in the year.

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Speaker 26: So they're obviously in custody. But it's sort of worrying

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Speaker 26: that this thirty two kilograms of mes anfetamine. That's a

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Speaker 26: lot to fill your cases up and thirty million dollars

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Speaker 26: on street value, so quite a lot of that stuff

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Speaker 26: that they thought they'd be able to sort of smuggle in,

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Speaker 26: which is a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally listen. This backpacker who's been found after almost

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Speaker 3: two weeks in the outback is incredibly lucky, isn't.

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Speaker 26: She extremely lucky? Carolina Wilga eleven nights she spent in

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Speaker 26: the Wa Outback. Now she lived or spent time in

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Speaker 26: a couple of caves where she was in freezing conditions

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Speaker 26: overnight the Wa outback, even though it's sort of considered

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Speaker 26: quite hot through the day, it gets freezing overnight. She

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Speaker 26: was living off no food, but she was living off

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Speaker 26: rain water and water sort of that she found in puddles.

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Speaker 26: Her car was founder, her van was found the day

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Speaker 26: before she was. And they're worried about people obviously going

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Speaker 26: into the outback thinking that they're well prepared. She thought

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Speaker 26: she was well prepared until she wasn't because she didn't

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Speaker 26: have an EPERB emergency beacon with her. She was sort

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Speaker 26: of found after eleven days. It's quite miraculous that she

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Speaker 26: was actually found alive. She's still in hospital and she's

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Speaker 26: still recovering. And the Wa Premier, Roger Corcus, that have said,

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Speaker 26: you know, you just can't take anything for granted when

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Speaker 26: you're out there, you should not be complacent. She's not

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Speaker 26: the first tourist who's been lost in the outback, and

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Speaker 26: she probably won't be the last. Just you hope that

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Speaker 26: people are sort of a bit smarter thinking that they

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Speaker 26: can get away without having all the proper emergency equipment

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Speaker 26: with them.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Leslie, thanks very much and day les the Yeomans

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Speaker 3: of Australia. E per babe. That's the one thing you

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Speaker 3: always packing your bag eating away.

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Speaker 1: From nine together, Duplessy Allen.

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Speaker 3: Now, so far, the one thing that is absolutely sure

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Speaker 3: about that information from the cockpit of the air and

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Speaker 3: Deia crash, which was released over the weekend is that

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Speaker 3: it's left everyone even more confused, probably than we were before,

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Speaker 3: because it seems really what we now ok we now

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Speaker 3: know that what happened is that somehow the fuel got

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Speaker 3: shut off to the engines and that's what caused the

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Speaker 3: plane to lose thrust. But then we know that the

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Speaker 3: fuel got turned on again to the engines and that

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Speaker 3: is why one of the engines was firing up at

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Speaker 3: the point. You know, if only it had been just

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Speaker 3: if only, if only that had a bit more time

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Speaker 3: that engine would have been able to fire up and maybe,

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Speaker 3: who knows, get the plane up again. One of them

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Speaker 3: was firing up, the other one had been turned on

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Speaker 3: but hadn't yet fired up. What is weird about this

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Speaker 3: is it's really unlikely that one of the pilots would

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Speaker 3: have accidentally brushed those levers to turn it off right,

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Speaker 3: because you can't do that. You have to pull the

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Speaker 3: lever up the switch. You have to pull it up

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Speaker 3: and then flick it like turn it, switch it, push

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Speaker 3: it whatever. If you pull it up first in order

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Speaker 3: to basically unlock it. You can't just brush your arm

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Speaker 3: past it and whoop, see I turned it off right?

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Speaker 3: So in which case did a pilot do it without thinking?

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Speaker 3: Was it sort of one of those ones where you

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Speaker 3: accidentally pressed the button before you even think that you've

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Speaker 3: pressed the button, and then you're like, oh, gee, I

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Speaker 3: pressed the button. I better unpress the button. Was one

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Speaker 3: of those. All that we've got at the moment is

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Speaker 3: a recording of one pilot asking the other pilot why

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Speaker 3: did he do the cutoff, to which the other pilot

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Speaker 3: says he didn't. But we don't know who's asking who

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Speaker 3: is it? The monitoring pilot is it the flying pilot,

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Speaker 3: if the pilot, If the pilot didn't do it, then

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Speaker 3: who did it?

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Speaker 10: Would was?

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Speaker 3: You know, like just all it's done, is this left

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Speaker 3: us was a thousand different questions we didn't have beforehand.

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Speaker 3: Now this is supposed to be sort of like a placeholder.

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Speaker 3: You get this information out and then the final report

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Speaker 3: comes out years from now. But you know, families are

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Speaker 3: pretty unhappy about it. Everybody's scratching their head and feeling

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Speaker 3: weird about it. I hardly think it is a sufficient placeholder.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine more information will have to come out

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Speaker 3: to satisfy people's questions. I suppose sixteen away from nine the.

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Speaker 3: Hey, do you remember that case of the nurse who

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Speaker 3: went and got some surgery done in India and then

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Speaker 3: paid like a fraction of the cost of what she

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Speaker 3: would have had to pay. Here, I've got another case

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Speaker 3: of that. I'm going to run you through that before

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Speaker 3: the end of the program, just so that you know

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Speaker 3: what's going on with Bojo in his life. He's been

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Speaker 3: out doing karaoke. That's what a night with Bojo sounds

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Speaker 3: like that's not Bojo on the bike, but he's participating

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Speaker 3: right next door to the mike. He's singing at a

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Speaker 3: night club in Capri. At some point he's just not

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Speaker 3: even a shy right about the partying that he's doing.

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Speaker 3: At some point he's down in champagne, straight from the bottle.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a dom. He's waving some Union Jack flags.

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Speaker 3: He's bursting into song while he's dancing on a table.

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Speaker 3: He is not going to be in trouble with Carrie,

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Speaker 3: who's his wife, because Carrie's there at help bust one.

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Speaker 3: And this is a bit I love the most about it.

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Speaker 3: She's got their two month old daughter, Poppy, strapped to

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Speaker 3: the front of her in a front pack. Eh. So

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Speaker 3: there's your life goals if you have children. Twelve away

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Speaker 3: from nine. Got another case of why we should have

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Speaker 3: minimum sentences, right, I'm going to bring these to you

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Speaker 3: until we get the minimum sentences, because I think we're

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Speaker 3: going to have to agitate for these. Chap's name is

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Speaker 3: Jacob Matthiah, twenty three years old. He got in trouble

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Speaker 3: for ramming the gate of the New Mormon Temple, the

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Speaker 3: one that they've built on staate O one thereby Manikow

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Speaker 3: in Auckland also tried to choke a nurse. Anyway, got

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Speaker 3: ten months home ded. This is how it goes. January

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Speaker 3: the fourth, just before sunrise, he runs into a traffic

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Speaker 3: light directly in front of the Manichaw police station. So

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Speaker 3: the cops come out and they go, oh, how are

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Speaker 3: you going, and he's oh, it's confused, so they charge

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Speaker 3: him with driving carelessly. A couple of days later, January

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Speaker 3: the sixth, he's having a lot of burg New Year's

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Speaker 3: Eve party this guy. Two days later, January the sixth,

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Speaker 3: half past midnight, he arrives at the Mormon church, which

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Speaker 3: is not that far away from the police station. By

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Speaker 3: the way, we had the crash two days earlier. He's

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Speaker 3: driving out. Different car this time, smashes through the entry barrier. Impact,

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Speaker 3: destroys the gates, causes them to fly off their hinges

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Speaker 3: attached to the structural poles holding them up. Then drives

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Speaker 3: to the front of the church, parks beside the main entry,

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Speaker 3: goes up to the front door, starts punching it, elbowing it,

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Speaker 3: head butting it causes the glass panes on the door

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Speaker 3: to smash. He's arrested, charged with intentional damage three o'clock

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Speaker 3: that day, not quite finished with the run of bad behavior,

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Speaker 3: he's at Middlemore. The cops have obviously taken him there.

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Speaker 3: They're getting his wounds tidied up in stuff. Male nurses

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Speaker 3: doing it without any warning. He pulls the nurse close,

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Speaker 3: wraps his legs around the nurse, wraps his fearm forearm

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Speaker 3: around the nurse's neck, and starts strangling the nurse. Punches

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Speaker 3: the nurse in the head about five times. Other staff

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Speaker 3: intervene and he releases his grip. Then he starts chasing

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Speaker 3: the other staff, grabs a doctor around the neck. Medical

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Speaker 3: staff intervene and stop him. So he's got three more charges.

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Speaker 3: Now he's got assault of the nurse with intent to injure,

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Speaker 3: impeding breathing, and common assault of the doctor. Anyway, the

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Speaker 3: cop prosecutor wants him in jail, but the judge says

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Speaker 3: his relative youth at twenty three, remorse and openness to

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Speaker 3: rehab make a non custodial sentence the most appropriate. Not

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Speaker 3: the first time he's had interaction with the cops, you

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Speaker 3: will be surprised to hear he had been charged with

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Speaker 3: five months earlier with drink driving in Auckland Central. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: by the time he got to court this past week

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Speaker 3: had already spent two months in custody, four months on

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Speaker 3: an electronically monitored bracelet. Judge says, it's clear you've had

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Speaker 3: a difficult upbringing, including some violence and poverty and a

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Speaker 3: lack of supported key times. Don't want to chuck you

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Speaker 3: in jail. Community detention would be a step too fast,

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Speaker 3: So ten months home d Manikow District Court Judge Ian Carter.

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Speaker 3: That is why we need minimum sentences, don't you think

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Speaker 3: ten away from nine?

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Speaker 3: all the views to beer brewing with all the taste.

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Speaker 3: championed by their residents. One week, the residents might be

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Speaker 3: off on a cycling adventure, the next they're on the

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Speaker 3: bowling green for a tournament, and after that you might

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Speaker 3: just find them at a crafternoon, making something arty for

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Speaker 3: the wall, or taking part in dancing lessons or a

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Speaker 3: yoga session. Even it's all about variety and an opportunity

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Speaker 3: to be part of a club and activity where you

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Speaker 3: feel like you truly belong. Not only do the activities

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Speaker 3: keep the mind active, but they also help the residents

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Speaker 3: to get to know their neighbors and have a laugh

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Speaker 1: Together do for sel you hear that what we.

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Speaker 3: Need to do is stop allowing the discounts on sentences.

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Speaker 3: I tend to agree with there's one of the problems.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely stix away from nine.

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Speaker 3: Now it's not just comedians who can deal with Heckler's

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Speaker 3: pretty well, what about the skuy orders. Our Tom Homan

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Speaker 3: can deal with him, just in his own special way.

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Speaker 3: He was making a speech at the Turning Point USA

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Speaker 3: conference when a man started yelling, asking him if he

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Speaker 3: was a member of MS thirteen and he just let loose.

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Speaker 27: They got marins like this are the country.

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Speaker 11: This guy, this guy want nose like the surface nation.

1936
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 11: This guy ain't got the balls to be a nice officer.

1937
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 11: The other got the balls pretty up, ba Origan. This

1938
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 11: guy who lives in his mother's basement, And is it.

1939
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Speaker 13: That surprised me?

1940
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Speaker 27: And you don't have purple hair and a nose?

1941
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Speaker 13: Drink?

1942
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 27: Get out of here, your loser, and you're such a

1943
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 27: badass being me off stage in thirteen minutes and fifty second,

1944
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 27: I guarantee you he sits down the peak.

1945
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Speaker 18: You know.

1946
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Speaker 3: I know what we're all going to do now, aren't we.

1947
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Speaker 3: First of all, we're going to google him to see

1948
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 3: what he looks like. But then we're also going to

1949
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 3: be like, what is MS thirteen? I don't know. I

1950
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 3: don't think we need to know. Oh, it sounds like something.

1951
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Speaker 3: It sounds like something that you don't need to know

1952
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Speaker 3: in your life. Don't worry about it. Okay, So listen,

1953
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 3: told you we've been talking about this because it's been

1954
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 3: the papers recently. There's a nurse who went to India

1955
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Speaker 3: got some surgery, right said, she's a nurse, she knows

1956
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Speaker 3: what she's doing. She got surgery in India. She was like,

1957
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 3: highly recommend state of the art, amazing better than New

1958
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 3: Zealand got another case of this. Women spent two years

1959
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Speaker 3: in a wheelchair almost and really really high doses of

1960
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 3: pain medication. Couldn't stand. She needed to have back surgery

1961
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Speaker 3: if she wanted to get it done privately in New

1962
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 3: Zealand to speed it up. It would cost about eighty

1963
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Speaker 3: five thousand dollars minimum, and in order to do it

1964
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Speaker 3: that would be massive. They would have to cut her

1965
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Speaker 3: in half front and back and then work on her

1966
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Speaker 3: lower spine. So she decided to have a look at

1967
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 3: what India was doing. She got robotic surgery in India

1968
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Speaker 3: for twenty thousand dollars. Now I think that that also

1969
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 3: includes the flights and the accommodation and the surgery blah

1970
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Speaker 3: blah blah. Right, and robotic is obviously far less invasive

1971
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 3: than having human slice you open. H She's now walking,

1972
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 3: she's going to the gym, she's got a new career

1973
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Speaker 3: as a nail technician, and she's even taken up line dancing.

1974
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 3: So I feel like increasingly this is going to be

1975
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 3: an option for people. As we just realized it. We're coming,

1976
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 3: you know, heading up against it with the New Zealand

1977
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 3: public health system and the private one. Also MS thirteen,

1978
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 3: hither is a gang?

1979
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Speaker 23: You know this?

1980
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Speaker 21: I didn't know that this is the one that everybody's

1981
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 21: being deported because they've got the tattoos that think that

1982
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Speaker 21: you've missed, You've completely missed.

1983
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Speaker 3: I didn't know about MS thirteen. No, I didn't know

1984
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 3: that was the gang's name. Why are we interested in

1985
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 3: the gang's name? But I would answer the question, just

1986
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:35,560
Speaker 3: bad guys are bad guys, aren't they. Well, no, you

1987
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 3: might say that.

1988
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Speaker 8: I think Homeland Security think feels a little slightly different

1989
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Speaker 8: about it.

1990
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Speaker 3: That's the whole. So maybe I should actually take my

1991
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 3: advice and coole.

1992
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Speaker 13: You go.

1993
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Speaker 22: You learn something new.

1994
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Speaker 3: Every day, don't you.

1995
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Speaker 10: Well I do.

1996
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Speaker 3: Anyway, you already knew it. See you tomorrow.

1997
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1998
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1999
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