1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: With us now on the Hudle, We've got Joe SPEGANI 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: child Fund and Patty Gower journalist. 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: Hell are you too, Hey? 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 3: Yes, well I'm unemployed and I'm happy to admit it 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 3: at day two. I've been unemployed since Monday, two days 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 3: in going good? Thank you? 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Did you watch the new three news bullets and Patty? 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did, look, I am. I actually watched it 9 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 3: on demand because I was down. I was down at 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 3: the bridge down the road here in the valley over 11 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: the hot River, fishing clarified, just getting a bit, just 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: getting a bit of kai for the family, you know, 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: so they'll enjoy a good feed of hearing. But yeah, 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: I did watch it. I did watch it, and look 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: it was it was really good, would you. 16 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Say, Patty, would you say? Better than expected? But obviously 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: cheap and that's not going to be that's not going 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: to be good for all members of the audience, right, somebody, 19 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: some people will find that a little hard to watch. 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: Well, I'm an absolutely expert in the program, obviously, and 21 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: I thought it was exactly what they should have delivered. Yes, 22 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: it's cheaper. It had to be wheras it was going 23 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: to get cut off, so it has to be cheaper, 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: and in terms of the cheaper product, that was pretty 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: damn good looking the three nights that I've watched, So yes, 26 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: it looks cheaper, but it's still there. They've done a 27 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: good job. There's no big mistakes. There are three nights, 28 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: and I know the people involved in the background, they're pros. 29 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: They'll keep it going from here, checking on it in 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: two months time. But at the moment, that's looking pretty 31 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: damn good. 32 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 4: What do you reckon, Joseph, Yeah, well, I just got 33 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 4: back from the US last night, so I didn't actually 34 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 4: watch it yet, but I just. 35 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 5: Sort of did a box pop, you know, focus group 36 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 5: around the office, and quite a few people watched it 37 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 5: and they liked it. And I think in some ways 38 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 5: that the cheapness that you're talking about, Heather, I think 39 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 5: people quite like that. It's a little bit like how 40 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 5: we all listen to long form podcasts now and you 41 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 5: couldn't get anything cheaper than that, but we love it. 42 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 5: You know, we listened to podcasts on everything from politics 43 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 5: to history to you know, crime stories to whatever. So 44 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 5: I think, I mean, just what we know is that 45 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 5: news is changing so much, and you know, talking about 46 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 5: the US, where I've just been I mean, okay, the 47 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 5: Biden Trump debate was you know, water War, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, 48 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 5: all the big kind of cable news channels. But also 49 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 5: you look at the figures about ninety percent of Americans 50 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 5: actually get most of the news on their smartphones now, 51 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 5: so they're not looking first, you know. 52 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: Point right, we have got used to it, so maybe 53 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: we don't need to have like a blockbuster TV news 54 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: in the evening and fair point. Now, listen, I want 55 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: to talk about Darlene Tanner, Patty. Does Darlene Tanner need 56 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: to quit Parliament? 57 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: She needs to quit. She should have quit yesterday or 58 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: one hundred and whatever days ago, but she definitely should 59 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: have quit yesterday. I cannot think of an MP in 60 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: the living history or the history of this country that 61 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: has less of a mandate than her. She is a 62 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: disgrace for staying on. She is dumbing her nose. You know, 63 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: not just at the Green Party who have given her 64 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: the altimate Combai kiss and Cattle's kind of approach to justice, 65 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: but to the voters and the taxpayers. She needs to 66 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: get out of their darling. Tanner needs to go and 67 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: go now. 68 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: Josie, Yeah, it's not acceptable that an MP refuses to 69 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: front up. 70 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 5: So she said she's been treated badly, unfairly, but she 71 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 5: hasn't really given her side of the story. We just 72 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 5: don't know the fact. But on the other side, you know, 73 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 5: the Greens have failed to really tell us what the 74 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 5: reporter is. I mean, you've told us more than the 75 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 5: Greens have, Heather, they haven't really told us what's in 76 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 5: the taught they're not and they're using these kind of 77 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 5: slightly smoke screen excuses about privacy and they've got to 78 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 5: check with everybody who's names. I mean, you can redact names. 79 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: Why don't Why Okay, so the Greens can get all 80 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: the legal advice and release the thing. They're not releasing it. 81 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: Why do they not want to release it? 82 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's the question. So it's really hard for 83 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 5: us to understand. I mean, you're absolutely right, Patty. I mean, 84 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 5: she's got to go. She spent one hundred and over 85 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 5: half her time as MP on full pay sitting there, 86 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 5: you know, waiting this thing out. Yes, there's a natural 87 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 5: justice process, but I think it's just you know, I mean, 88 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 5: clearly there's been a breakdown in the party. She's a 89 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 5: list MP I think the biggest thing for the Greens though, 90 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 5: is looking at this and going all the way back 91 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 5: from even Materia Toure. But you know, gold Ritz, Elizabeth, Ketty, Kenny, 92 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 5: Julia and Jenier, there's something wrong in that in that paste. Okay, 93 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 5: Rather maybe Heather, it's just that they've got as many narcissistic, 94 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 5: self serving politicians and their party the other not being 95 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 5: sleman morally superior. 96 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: She has done nothing since she's been in the Parliament. 97 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: She got elected because she was in the Greens. She's 98 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: a listing pe. People voted for the Greens. Nobody voted 99 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: for Darling Tanner. Whatever is in that report, and the 100 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: Greens are being soft and not releasing it or whatever. 101 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 3: Look at the end of the day, it's they're annoyed. 102 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: It takes a lot to annoy a Green. You know, 103 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: they want They are instinctively driven to cuddle someone rather 104 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: than keep that. Yeah yeah, okay, but you know they 105 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: can they're actually like all of us choker cattle. They 106 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: can give the odd they need to give the old 107 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: choker cattle, don't they. Anyway. Anyway, she's done nothing, She's 108 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: just got to go and they should. They should release 109 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: the report leak, the report start leaking on air driver 110 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: out of there, they'll have to do all this sort 111 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 3: of stuff. Yeah, but she's just got to go. 112 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: I suspect I just have a sneaky suspicion. The report's 113 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: not as damning as they've painted it out. So but 114 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: we'll see, Laura, have you got any more of that report? 115 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 4: Not yet? 116 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: Okay, standing by though, take a break. Come back with 117 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: the huddle. 118 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's international realty unparalleled reach 119 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: and results. 120 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: Right back with the huddle, Joseph Bergani and Patty Gower. Josie, 121 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: what do you make of this? Labor? Labor considering an 122 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: inheritance tax? But this is a dumb idea, isn't it. 123 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 5: Well, the problem for labor is they haven't quite you know, 124 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 5: got rid of the ghost of their last tax policies, 125 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 5: which we really died in the service of its spending followings. Right, 126 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 5: so that the reason that no one trusted labor in 127 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 5: the last iteration with it with their tax policy was 128 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 5: that they didn't want to fund Lake Onslow. They didn't 129 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 5: want to fund fifty billion dollars for Lake Onslow and 130 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 5: light rail. So the problem they've got again, it's sort 131 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 5: of political management. They've come out with this policy saying, 132 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 5: do you want an inheritance tax's I say, do you 133 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 5: want to be you have your arm cut off? I mean, 134 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 5: no one wants to say yes for that, So they've 135 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 5: got to come out and say something more coherent like 136 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 5: would you pay this amount for an inheritance tack at 137 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: this tax? At this level if you could have free 138 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 5: dental care for the rest of your life, then they're 139 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 5: going to go, Okay, let me think about that. Yes, 140 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 5: maybe I will pay that. 141 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Patty, it was so unpopular before, it's 142 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: proven so unpopular over other parts of the world when 143 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: it's been bumped up all brought in. I don't know 144 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: that this is going to go anywhere. What do you think? 145 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? I just think that to the middle class, key 146 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: we and upwards, inherited is everything. People think about it 147 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: all the time. You know, coming in and texting it 148 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: is not going to go down well with the punters. 149 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 3: Labor should know this. Is they going to come in 150 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: and get something like that. Josie is right, she knows 151 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: all about this. She's watched this movie upteen times. Labor 152 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: need to come in with a comprehensive tax that is 153 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: wide and sweeping, but people get something on the other side. 154 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: It's senile going and going in and looking like you are. 155 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: This inheritance thief is a quick way to go to opposition. 156 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: I agree with you. We have to leave it there 157 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: because I need to talk to you about this Pad. 158 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: I've got a text, Heather, you must get new Plymouth 159 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: legiond Paddy g to take on the town pool swimwear 160 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: prood fest. 161 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I'll take it on. I mean, I've spent many, 162 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: many years of my life at the carter Rs stuff. 163 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: And you know where was the G string when I 164 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: was the G string trend when I was fifteen years 165 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: old in nineteen ninety two. You know we're about time, 166 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: you know, so I'm driving up for here tonight. Actually, 167 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: you're a. 168 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 5: Brave man, Patty. You're a very brave man. If if 169 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 5: you've never worn a G string obviously, Patty, I'm I'm 170 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 5: not judging, but I'll. 171 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: Be wearing one tomorrow at Cara Bars, and so will 172 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: my dad, Gordon Gower, who was seventy three years old. 173 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: He get us both one well free the bum. 174 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: Can you just just just arbitrate this for me, This 175 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: is a prudish thing to do, right, Get the bum out. 176 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: If you want to tan your bum, go for your life. 177 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 3: Yes, it's an indoor poll though, if you want. 178 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: To get your bum out and walk around, go for 179 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: your life. 180 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 5: And it's like, and I think it hadn't be all 181 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 5: bums are equaled, like not just a night bum, but 182 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 5: a fat bumb and the oddly shit bum. Whatever. 183 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I. 184 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 5: Mean, look, the world's going to hell and a hand 185 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 5: basket wars are breaking out. We're about to elect in 186 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 5: the US a convicted sellon whose picture electorate is I 187 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 5: did not sleep with a porn star? And what are 188 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 5: we doing in New Zealand having petition about banning g 189 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 5: strength You know what? 190 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: There is there is something about that that's oddly comforting. Guys, 191 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate his. 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