1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at b. 3 00:00:12,853 --> 00:00:16,333 Speaker 2: Carl Urban has been on our screens for about three 4 00:00:16,413 --> 00:00:20,653 Speaker 2: decades now. He made history on Shortened Street as the 5 00:00:20,693 --> 00:00:23,493 Speaker 2: first openly gay character, and he was introduced to the 6 00:00:23,493 --> 00:00:26,733 Speaker 2: world as a writer of Rohan in Peter Jackson's Lord 7 00:00:26,733 --> 00:00:30,573 Speaker 2: of the Rings. Carl's varied acting career has taken him 8 00:00:30,693 --> 00:00:32,733 Speaker 2: all around the world. That sent him work with some 9 00:00:32,773 --> 00:00:36,573 Speaker 2: Hollywood legends, and in his latest film, The Bluff, he 10 00:00:36,653 --> 00:00:40,133 Speaker 2: teamed up with Prianka Chopra Jones for the nineteenth century 11 00:00:40,293 --> 00:00:43,973 Speaker 2: action thriller following a former pirate who attempts to keep 12 00:00:43,973 --> 00:00:48,213 Speaker 2: her family safe when her old captain seeks revenge. 13 00:00:49,013 --> 00:00:51,653 Speaker 3: No one leaves a silence. I collect my property. 14 00:00:52,413 --> 00:00:53,493 Speaker 1: Why did you contrain me? 15 00:00:54,613 --> 00:00:56,613 Speaker 3: You think I will just let you slip away? 16 00:01:01,253 --> 00:01:03,013 Speaker 2: Bloody, bloody Mary. 17 00:01:04,013 --> 00:01:07,213 Speaker 4: I'm told you have a beautiful new farm. 18 00:01:07,333 --> 00:01:08,733 Speaker 3: They know who you really are. 19 00:01:09,413 --> 00:01:11,533 Speaker 1: I'm still your mother and I will do anything in 20 00:01:11,573 --> 00:01:13,293 Speaker 1: my power to protect you. 21 00:01:17,013 --> 00:01:18,853 Speaker 2: Karl Urban is with us this morning. 22 00:01:18,893 --> 00:01:21,893 Speaker 3: Cald A, good morning, Good morning Jack. How are you 23 00:01:21,933 --> 00:01:23,293 Speaker 3: thank you so much for having me on the show. 24 00:01:23,493 --> 00:01:25,053 Speaker 2: No, it's great to have you here. Great to be 25 00:01:25,053 --> 00:01:28,413 Speaker 2: speaking with you, and congratulations on the Bluff. I can't 26 00:01:28,413 --> 00:01:31,973 Speaker 2: say this for every film, but it really looked like 27 00:01:32,013 --> 00:01:33,493 Speaker 2: it would have been a hell of a lot of 28 00:01:33,493 --> 00:01:35,853 Speaker 2: fun to make this film. So what drew you to 29 00:01:35,933 --> 00:01:36,373 Speaker 2: the Bluff? 30 00:01:38,693 --> 00:01:40,853 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it was a lot of fun to make. 31 00:01:41,453 --> 00:01:43,933 Speaker 4: You know, what drew me to the film was well, 32 00:01:43,973 --> 00:01:46,893 Speaker 4: two things. Firstly, it was the story itself. I found 33 00:01:46,893 --> 00:01:51,333 Speaker 4: it quite intriguing and I was drawn to, you know, 34 00:01:51,453 --> 00:01:56,013 Speaker 4: this sort of pirate story. It's a story about a 35 00:01:56,053 --> 00:02:00,453 Speaker 4: woman who was defending her family from her nefarious past. 36 00:02:01,093 --> 00:02:05,133 Speaker 4: And I play the nefarious past, and I play a 37 00:02:05,213 --> 00:02:08,133 Speaker 4: character called Captain Connor, who is a former East India 38 00:02:08,373 --> 00:02:14,693 Speaker 4: Trading Company captain who has basically been outlawed. He was 39 00:02:14,693 --> 00:02:17,973 Speaker 4: betrayed by the Empire, betrayed by his lover and partner, 40 00:02:18,133 --> 00:02:21,533 Speaker 4: and you know, kind of ostracized and and and to me, 41 00:02:21,613 --> 00:02:24,133 Speaker 4: that was a very fertile kind of ground to launch 42 00:02:24,213 --> 00:02:28,293 Speaker 4: this story, and and and and it was. 43 00:02:28,333 --> 00:02:30,173 Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun when you think about 44 00:02:30,173 --> 00:02:33,053 Speaker 2: the kind of continuum of heroes and bad guys. And 45 00:02:33,093 --> 00:02:35,253 Speaker 2: I know that you know that probably reduces things to 46 00:02:35,253 --> 00:02:37,933 Speaker 2: being a little bit too binary. But you have played 47 00:02:38,133 --> 00:02:40,813 Speaker 2: beloved heroes over the years. It strikes me that that 48 00:02:40,853 --> 00:02:43,533 Speaker 2: Billy Butcher is kind of an anti hero of sorts. 49 00:02:43,613 --> 00:02:46,653 Speaker 2: So where do you think that Captain Connor kind of 50 00:02:46,653 --> 00:02:47,773 Speaker 2: sits on that continuum? 51 00:02:49,373 --> 00:02:51,893 Speaker 3: Well, listen, I mean he's a bad guy. There's no pirates, 52 00:02:51,893 --> 00:02:52,093 Speaker 3: And I. 53 00:02:52,093 --> 00:02:54,733 Speaker 4: Think that's one of the the good things about the 54 00:02:54,773 --> 00:02:57,733 Speaker 4: Bluff is that, you know, you know, we've become accustoms 55 00:02:57,773 --> 00:03:00,173 Speaker 4: a lot of sort of comedic takes on it, you know, 56 00:03:00,173 --> 00:03:03,053 Speaker 4: our action takes. You know, this this is a kind 57 00:03:03,093 --> 00:03:04,853 Speaker 4: of a gritty look at some of the right the 58 00:03:04,853 --> 00:03:08,573 Speaker 4: reality that these were men that you know, the brutal things. 59 00:03:09,893 --> 00:03:13,653 Speaker 4: But you know, you know, to me, I think that 60 00:03:15,013 --> 00:03:17,653 Speaker 4: you know, this film, it just it fires on all cylinders, 61 00:03:17,653 --> 00:03:20,133 Speaker 4: like it's a lit fuse. It's like once it starts, 62 00:03:20,173 --> 00:03:21,933 Speaker 4: it's relentless and it doesn't give up. 63 00:03:22,053 --> 00:03:25,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's there's certainly a lot of action. Like you're 64 00:03:26,133 --> 00:03:29,293 Speaker 2: minutes in and you're completely gripped because everything is happening 65 00:03:29,333 --> 00:03:30,973 Speaker 2: on screen. And I think you're right to say that 66 00:03:31,013 --> 00:03:35,133 Speaker 2: these are they're not like upstanding members of society necessarily. 67 00:03:35,173 --> 00:03:37,653 Speaker 2: It's like, it's not the least violent film I've ever seen. 68 00:03:38,973 --> 00:03:42,853 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's you could definitely say that. I think 69 00:03:42,853 --> 00:03:44,333 Speaker 4: what was important for me as an actor is to 70 00:03:44,453 --> 00:03:47,533 Speaker 4: like always try and find a positive psychology to put 71 00:03:47,573 --> 00:03:50,373 Speaker 4: behind the character. And I find that helps if I 72 00:03:50,613 --> 00:03:52,813 Speaker 4: know why I'm doing or I have a goal or 73 00:03:52,813 --> 00:03:55,573 Speaker 4: a purpose. And then this case, you know, all that 74 00:03:55,653 --> 00:03:57,933 Speaker 4: what the character wanted was the freedom to live in 75 00:03:57,933 --> 00:04:01,373 Speaker 4: the world that he helped build, and so you know 76 00:04:02,013 --> 00:04:05,093 Speaker 4: that helps. If I can align myself psychologically with what 77 00:04:05,133 --> 00:04:08,213 Speaker 4: the character's goal are, then it helps me to really 78 00:04:08,213 --> 00:04:10,573 Speaker 4: commit to, you know, whatever the characters required. 79 00:04:10,813 --> 00:04:11,013 Speaker 3: Yeah. 80 00:04:11,093 --> 00:04:13,853 Speaker 2: Right, So this is filmed in Australia, but the name 81 00:04:13,933 --> 00:04:17,813 Speaker 2: the Bluff comes from those incredible cliffs that Cayman Brack 82 00:04:17,853 --> 00:04:20,253 Speaker 2: and when I first saw them in the film, having 83 00:04:20,293 --> 00:04:23,733 Speaker 2: never seen them before, I immediately had to google does 84 00:04:23,733 --> 00:04:26,693 Speaker 2: this place actually exist? It's such a remarkable kind of 85 00:04:26,853 --> 00:04:29,453 Speaker 2: kind of physical landscape. Did you have an opportunity to 86 00:04:29,493 --> 00:04:30,093 Speaker 2: actually visit? 87 00:04:31,333 --> 00:04:32,853 Speaker 3: No, sadly I haven't. 88 00:04:32,853 --> 00:04:34,813 Speaker 4: But you know, we were blessed on this film with 89 00:04:34,893 --> 00:04:38,173 Speaker 4: having our director Frank Flowers actually be from the Cayman 90 00:04:38,173 --> 00:04:40,493 Speaker 4: Islands and he kind of really you know, imbued the 91 00:04:40,533 --> 00:04:43,893 Speaker 4: film with a whole lot of knowledge, specific knowledge that 92 00:04:44,053 --> 00:04:46,613 Speaker 4: sort of really kind of enriched. I guess the Tapestry, 93 00:04:46,853 --> 00:04:48,453 Speaker 4: but I would love to go there one day. It 94 00:04:48,613 --> 00:04:52,013 Speaker 4: just it looks so extraordinarily beautiful. And I met a 95 00:04:52,053 --> 00:04:54,733 Speaker 4: lot of people on this shoot who were from the 96 00:04:54,733 --> 00:04:57,413 Speaker 4: Cayman Islands and wonderful people. So as soon as I 97 00:04:57,453 --> 00:04:59,693 Speaker 4: get the opportunity, I definitely will will take it. 98 00:04:59,773 --> 00:05:03,773 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a remarkable landscape. It's like a screensaver good landscape. 99 00:05:03,813 --> 00:05:04,973 Speaker 2: You know, it's like you look at it and you're 100 00:05:05,013 --> 00:05:06,733 Speaker 2: like that, surely that's not a real place, and then 101 00:05:07,213 --> 00:05:09,653 Speaker 2: that's not real? Yeah, yeah, and then Love and Behold. 102 00:05:09,933 --> 00:05:14,373 Speaker 2: So obviously you're starting alongside Prianka Chopra Jones. But as 103 00:05:14,413 --> 00:05:16,773 Speaker 2: well as that, I don't know what it is about 104 00:05:16,813 --> 00:05:18,373 Speaker 2: key we actors. They just have a habit of kind 105 00:05:18,413 --> 00:05:20,613 Speaker 2: of ending up in these amazing scenarios to give it 106 00:05:20,773 --> 00:05:23,013 Speaker 2: you're offside or as Tim Waird to Morrison in this film. So, 107 00:05:23,053 --> 00:05:27,173 Speaker 2: how was it playing a swashbuckling pirate alongside Tim? 108 00:05:28,573 --> 00:05:30,533 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like, first of it was really important 109 00:05:30,533 --> 00:05:33,293 Speaker 4: for me to I was an advocate of having Time 110 00:05:33,373 --> 00:05:36,373 Speaker 4: on board, and I was so delighted when he came 111 00:05:36,413 --> 00:05:38,493 Speaker 4: on board. And you know, Tim is one of those 112 00:05:38,773 --> 00:05:42,293 Speaker 4: iconic New Zealand actors, you know that inspired a generation. 113 00:05:42,373 --> 00:05:44,773 Speaker 4: He's a trailblazer. You know, when I think of actors 114 00:05:44,813 --> 00:05:47,653 Speaker 4: who have inspired me in my career, this Sam Neil, 115 00:05:48,413 --> 00:05:51,253 Speaker 4: the Great Bruno Lawrence, you know, you know, Russell Crow 116 00:05:51,293 --> 00:05:53,653 Speaker 4: and Romper Stompers set the bar and then Tim Morrison 117 00:05:54,093 --> 00:05:58,333 Speaker 4: with once More Warriors and to have the opportunity to 118 00:05:58,373 --> 00:06:00,253 Speaker 4: go toe to toe with him and just to have 119 00:06:00,373 --> 00:06:03,013 Speaker 4: him on set and for him to bring his his 120 00:06:03,173 --> 00:06:07,253 Speaker 4: wealth of knowledge and experience really rich the film. I 121 00:06:07,253 --> 00:06:09,973 Speaker 4: mean there was actually a point in the movie where 122 00:06:10,573 --> 00:06:14,413 Speaker 4: his contribution was you know, I felt really added such 123 00:06:14,453 --> 00:06:19,093 Speaker 4: an incredible depth to it. Like he he was adamant 124 00:06:19,133 --> 00:06:22,493 Speaker 4: that his characters should you know, suffer a loss, a 125 00:06:22,533 --> 00:06:25,573 Speaker 4: loss of his son, and from that point in the 126 00:06:25,573 --> 00:06:29,293 Speaker 4: movie everything wraps up. And so I think that, you know, 127 00:06:29,533 --> 00:06:32,773 Speaker 4: we were really blessed to have him on this on 128 00:06:32,813 --> 00:06:33,373 Speaker 4: this movie. 129 00:06:33,413 --> 00:06:35,373 Speaker 3: And yeah, that's a great guy. 130 00:06:35,773 --> 00:06:39,133 Speaker 2: He advocated to have Tim Do you tell him? Do 131 00:06:39,213 --> 00:06:40,453 Speaker 2: you do you ever say to him, you know, take 132 00:06:40,493 --> 00:06:42,613 Speaker 2: him aside and say, you know, for what it's worth, 133 00:06:42,813 --> 00:06:45,613 Speaker 2: you know, we're here, we're fighting the good fight or 134 00:06:45,613 --> 00:06:48,893 Speaker 2: the bad fight sometimes in this film together. But so 135 00:06:49,013 --> 00:06:52,053 Speaker 2: you know, you know two decades ago, three decades ago, 136 00:06:52,813 --> 00:06:54,933 Speaker 2: you were someone who had a massive impact on me. 137 00:06:56,453 --> 00:06:57,373 Speaker 3: Oh, he knows. 138 00:06:57,453 --> 00:06:59,293 Speaker 4: I mean because I knew. I've known Tim for a 139 00:06:59,373 --> 00:07:02,333 Speaker 4: very long time. We worked together a very long time ago, 140 00:07:02,373 --> 00:07:05,093 Speaker 4: and you know, he was always very generous with his 141 00:07:05,493 --> 00:07:08,493 Speaker 4: during the in the Once Warrior's days, with offering his 142 00:07:08,653 --> 00:07:11,333 Speaker 4: vice and I always remember him goes plant those boots, boy, 143 00:07:11,413 --> 00:07:14,933 Speaker 4: plant those boots. And so fast forward all these years 144 00:07:14,933 --> 00:07:17,213 Speaker 4: in my career as you know, gone where it's gone, 145 00:07:17,253 --> 00:07:20,573 Speaker 4: and his you know, he's done so many wonderful performances 146 00:07:20,773 --> 00:07:23,693 Speaker 4: and to have the opportunity to you know, to work 147 00:07:23,733 --> 00:07:27,013 Speaker 4: with him again, and it was it was really special 148 00:07:27,013 --> 00:07:27,253 Speaker 4: for me. 149 00:07:27,413 --> 00:07:27,693 Speaker 3: Yeah. 150 00:07:27,733 --> 00:07:29,653 Speaker 2: Am I right in thinking that your son and he 151 00:07:29,773 --> 00:07:30,613 Speaker 2: was involved with this too? 152 00:07:31,653 --> 00:07:32,253 Speaker 3: That's correct? 153 00:07:32,333 --> 00:07:33,213 Speaker 2: Yeah, how is that? 154 00:07:34,893 --> 00:07:35,613 Speaker 3: It was great? 155 00:07:35,773 --> 00:07:38,373 Speaker 4: It was like you know, I mean, he's sort of 156 00:07:38,413 --> 00:07:41,333 Speaker 4: my son. He's been on film sets his whole life 157 00:07:41,333 --> 00:07:44,013 Speaker 4: to one degree or another. And I did a film 158 00:07:44,013 --> 00:07:46,773 Speaker 4: before this called Mortal Kombat too, and the film producer 159 00:07:46,813 --> 00:07:48,493 Speaker 4: came up to me, Sittleton, do you think you know 160 00:07:48,573 --> 00:07:51,253 Speaker 4: your son would be interested in being a young version 161 00:07:51,293 --> 00:07:54,173 Speaker 4: of Johnny Cage? And I went, I'll ask him, and 162 00:07:54,213 --> 00:07:56,773 Speaker 4: I asked him and he said yes, he'd do it. 163 00:07:56,853 --> 00:07:58,333 Speaker 4: And he came and he smashed it out of the 164 00:07:58,333 --> 00:08:00,173 Speaker 4: park and he was like, oh my god, this is amazing. 165 00:08:00,213 --> 00:08:01,613 Speaker 3: I want to be an actor. And I'm like, well, 166 00:08:02,933 --> 00:08:03,933 Speaker 3: slow down, why don't. 167 00:08:03,733 --> 00:08:05,853 Speaker 2: You plant those boots? Plant those boots. 168 00:08:05,973 --> 00:08:06,613 Speaker 3: Yeah. 169 00:08:06,453 --> 00:08:09,493 Speaker 4: Yeah, part of it, I was the opposite. I'm like, well, listen, 170 00:08:09,653 --> 00:08:12,613 Speaker 4: just not get carried away. Come on the bluff. Be 171 00:08:12,693 --> 00:08:16,333 Speaker 4: an extra work, you know, every day for six, seven, 172 00:08:16,373 --> 00:08:18,813 Speaker 4: eight weeks, get up at four in the morning, you know, 173 00:08:18,973 --> 00:08:22,213 Speaker 4: work ten and twelve hour day, and then see how 174 00:08:22,253 --> 00:08:24,173 Speaker 4: you feel because a lot of it's waiting around, a 175 00:08:24,173 --> 00:08:27,573 Speaker 4: lot of it's not getting used. But he absolutely loved it, 176 00:08:27,613 --> 00:08:31,413 Speaker 4: and I think he really, you know, took to the 177 00:08:31,853 --> 00:08:36,333 Speaker 4: culture and the creative process of working with everybody from 178 00:08:36,333 --> 00:08:42,493 Speaker 4: every department, whether it's camera, wardrobe, and working with other actors. 179 00:08:42,533 --> 00:08:46,093 Speaker 4: You know, great other actors that are coming through in 180 00:08:46,133 --> 00:08:49,653 Speaker 4: New Zealand. There's another young guy, Jordan who's in our movie. 181 00:08:50,373 --> 00:08:52,613 Speaker 4: Hugely talented guy who brought it from day one and 182 00:08:52,653 --> 00:08:53,493 Speaker 4: New Zealand actor. 183 00:08:54,733 --> 00:08:57,613 Speaker 3: So yeah, so he's going for it. 184 00:08:58,693 --> 00:09:01,493 Speaker 2: Having had that full, kind of wholesome experience of the 185 00:09:01,533 --> 00:09:03,893 Speaker 2: early starts and the graft and the waiting and everything else. 186 00:09:03,893 --> 00:09:06,253 Speaker 2: He's still keen, he is. 187 00:09:06,453 --> 00:09:10,053 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, he's he studied at South Seas last year 188 00:09:10,053 --> 00:09:13,893 Speaker 4: and he's already landed his first role in a television show, 189 00:09:13,933 --> 00:09:16,093 Speaker 4: a Copro that's happening in New Zealand at the moment. 190 00:09:16,173 --> 00:09:18,253 Speaker 4: So and I'd love the opportunity to work with him 191 00:09:18,293 --> 00:09:21,373 Speaker 4: again one day. I think he's actually far more naturally 192 00:09:21,413 --> 00:09:25,013 Speaker 4: gifted at his age. He's twenty now than I was 193 00:09:25,053 --> 00:09:25,613 Speaker 4: at that age. 194 00:09:25,733 --> 00:09:29,173 Speaker 2: So how good? Hey, I think the fifth and final 195 00:09:29,213 --> 00:09:31,213 Speaker 2: season of The Boys heads our way in a couple 196 00:09:31,253 --> 00:09:34,453 Speaker 2: of months, I think April. It's currently slated for broadcast 197 00:09:34,533 --> 00:09:39,173 Speaker 2: in New Zealand. It has had astonishing success, like crazy success. 198 00:09:39,173 --> 00:09:42,813 Speaker 2: So how has it been wrapping the production on The 199 00:09:42,813 --> 00:09:45,133 Speaker 2: Boys after all of these years and after what has 200 00:09:45,173 --> 00:09:47,253 Speaker 2: been extraordinary? 201 00:09:48,613 --> 00:09:50,813 Speaker 3: It was, Yeah, it was a bit of sweet. 202 00:09:50,853 --> 00:09:52,973 Speaker 4: It was amazing to really be able to go out 203 00:09:52,973 --> 00:09:55,213 Speaker 4: in our own terms, to tell a story over a 204 00:09:55,213 --> 00:09:58,773 Speaker 4: period of five seasons, to have a succinct beginning, middle 205 00:09:58,773 --> 00:10:02,093 Speaker 4: and end, and yeah, it was bit a sweet. I'm 206 00:10:02,093 --> 00:10:06,133 Speaker 4: really going to miss that cast and that crew, really 207 00:10:06,453 --> 00:10:10,893 Speaker 4: norminally talented people, and we've you know, become so close 208 00:10:10,973 --> 00:10:14,573 Speaker 4: over the years. I will miss Toronto in the summer, 209 00:10:14,693 --> 00:10:15,653 Speaker 4: not so much in the winter. 210 00:10:15,853 --> 00:10:17,093 Speaker 3: It's it's brutal. 211 00:10:17,213 --> 00:10:19,493 Speaker 4: There's some days like, you know, you're shooting on set 212 00:10:19,573 --> 00:10:23,093 Speaker 4: in Toronto and winter it's minus you know, fifteen degrees 213 00:10:23,293 --> 00:10:25,533 Speaker 4: and there's just tears are rolling out of your eyes 214 00:10:25,573 --> 00:10:27,133 Speaker 4: because that's what they do when it's that called. 215 00:10:28,173 --> 00:10:30,293 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's and it's just just to. 216 00:10:30,853 --> 00:10:33,613 Speaker 4: Deliver something to an audience that's invested and it's been 217 00:10:33,733 --> 00:10:39,733 Speaker 4: so supportive of the show and I'm excited for them 218 00:10:39,773 --> 00:10:41,133 Speaker 4: to see where it all ends up. 219 00:10:41,213 --> 00:10:43,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, look, thank you so much for your time. 220 00:10:43,013 --> 00:10:45,253 Speaker 2: Congratulations on the Bluff. We hope to see your home 221 00:10:45,293 --> 00:10:45,933 Speaker 2: sometimes soon. 222 00:10:46,933 --> 00:10:48,613 Speaker 3: Thank you. Jack. Yeah, I'll be home soon. 223 00:10:48,933 --> 00:10:52,253 Speaker 2: That's Carl Urban so good. The Bluff is streaming on 224 00:10:52,453 --> 00:10:54,573 Speaker 2: Prime Video now. We've got all the details up on 225 00:10:54,613 --> 00:10:56,973 Speaker 2: the News Talks, he'd be website for. 226 00:10:57,013 --> 00:11:00,053 Speaker 1: More from Saturday morning with Jack Tame. Listen live to 227 00:11:00,173 --> 00:11:03,213 Speaker 1: News Talks he'd be from nine am Saturday, or follow 228 00:11:03,253 --> 00:11:04,813 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.