1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: earlier is show with one roof Love where you live 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: news talk. 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: Se'd be good morning, it is Wednesday. Great to have 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: your company. Paul Goldsmith before six on the new crime 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: stats out this morning and the Tom Phillips injunction will 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: ask him about that too. Trump's touching down in the 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: UK with their live aviation fees, they're getting a review 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: will mean cheap of flights for US. And we've got 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: your global dairy trade option numbers from overnight. All ahead. 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: The agenda Wednesday. 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: To seventeenth September. We've got a ground invasion Garza City 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 2: this morning. Netanya, who says get out because we're coming in. 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: The UN Commission of Inquiry says this is genocide. 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 3: This has been the most ruthless, prolonged and the widespread 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 3: attack against the Palestinian people since nineteen forty eight. Every 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: day that passes, the killings and the starvation of the 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: Palestinians continue. 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: The King is my good friend. Trump is touching down 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: for second state visit in the UK. 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: It's the first time this has ever happened where somebody 22 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: was honor's way, So it's a great honor, and this 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: one's at Windsor. 24 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: They've never used Windsor. 25 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 4: Castle for this before, and they who fucking in palace? 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: And I want to say once better than the other, 27 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: but they say Windsor Castle is the alternate rate. 28 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: Also a little more private, which is one of the reasons. 29 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: Also he's meeting with the king tomorrow. 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 5: There is a huge security operation here in Windsor. This 31 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 5: town is on a state of high alert, which is 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 5: typical for a state visit. But what's not as typical 33 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 5: is the level of welcome that the president is going 34 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 5: to be getting. We're hearing that it's going to be 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 5: the largest military parade and welcome in living memories. 36 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: Luigi Manngioni. This is the alleged insurance boss killer, and 37 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: New York judge has thrown out terrorism charges against him, 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: so it's still going to face these second degree murder charges. 39 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: Ideological motives alone don't make a crime terrorism, apparently, this 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: is according to New York law. Right, So Hollywood, we 41 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: go now legend. Robert Redford has died at the age 42 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: of eighty nine. You're very nearly perfect. It's a rotten 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: thing to see. 44 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 4: Well, we were married. 45 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: I thought you slept with a tie. 46 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: No, just for very formal sleeps. 47 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 6: I think that the time has gone when the American 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 6: people realize that we're in this together and that we 49 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 6: sink or swim together. 50 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: I'll jump first, Nope, and you jump first. 51 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: Oh, I said, what's the matter with you? 52 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 6: I can't swim? 53 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: Yes, you'll remember, butch Cassidy. The Sundance had my favorite 54 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: all the President's men, of course about Watergate and Truth 55 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: which was a more recent one, and you were one 56 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: about George W. Bush. If you haven't seen it, check 57 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: it out nine after five views. 58 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: And views you trust to start your day. It's early 59 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: editionship with Bryan Bridge and one roof love where you 60 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: live news talks that'd. 61 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: Be nine two nine two great to have your company. 62 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: Now the hospitals you would have heard in the news 63 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: there are a number of tafato. Order has done a 64 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: thing with Brad Olsen from in for metrics looking at 65 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: how short are they of nurses on any given shift. 66 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: And last what's interesting to me is they're saying five 67 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty seven nurses every shift last year. We're short, 68 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: we need more nurses, we need higher pay. You can 69 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: expect what you expect from a union, right, But if 70 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: you look at their this is from their own press release. 71 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: You look at the numbers. Five hundred and eighty seven 72 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: nurses short in twenty twenty four for your average shift. 73 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: That's right across the country, and on some shifts that 74 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: increases to eight hundred and forty eight nurses. Now that's 75 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: not good. I mean, talk to any nurse and they'll 76 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: say they run off their feet. However, the shortage was 77 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: actually worse under the previous government, so in twenty twenty 78 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: three it averaged six hundred and eighty four per shift 79 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: the maximum nine hundred and thirty seven. So is the 80 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: fact that this current lot hired an extra three thousand 81 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: this is last year not a good thing. I guess 82 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: we will never stop needing more nurses, according to the 83 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: n z N. Now the global dairy trade auction numbers 84 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: from overnight actually better than what the derivative market was 85 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: saying it might fall five percent. Well we're down point eight, 86 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: so yes, it's another dip. Not as bad as the 87 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: last one. Down point eight whole milk powder down point eight, 88 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: skim milk point three. Butter could be back on your 89 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: toast soon, Well probably not but that's down point eight 90 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: so softening continues. Output is increasing, demand is not keeping pace, 91 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 2: and the collections have it. Look at the collections for 92 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 2: the season up almost nine percent on last year, which 93 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: I guess is what happens when your prices go up 94 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: and you want, you know, why not meet it. This 95 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 2: auction and the last one aside, still they reckon that 96 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: we will get one percent growth year on year. This 97 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: is two the month and two point four percent for 98 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: next month. So for dairy farmers this morning, trend is 99 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: still looking good. More highs likely, more record high likely. 100 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: Brad Olsen on this next news talk setb the. 101 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: News you need this morning and the in depth analysis 102 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and one Roote Love where 103 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: you Live News talks at. 104 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: Beaks a bit. It's five thirteen This business with the injunction. 105 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: I am of the mind that even just because everyone 106 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: might be out there on social media going hell for 107 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: leather and talking about things that they should and that 108 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 2: doesn't mean you change the law to say, yeah, that's okay, 109 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: horses bolted, let's just lead. It isn't that the time 110 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: where you double down and you say, right, well, we're 111 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: going to double the penalties We're going to enforce this 112 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: a bit more. We're going to have our own guys 113 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 2: looking through and seeing who's actually posting this stuff rather 114 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: than just giving in. You know, I think it's kind 115 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: of a weak position, to be honest with you. Injunctions 116 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: this is speaking generally are generally designed forward looking to 117 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: try and protect certain parties who need protecting, innocent parties 118 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: who need protecting. So do you just because you know 119 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: the tap is running hot, do you just let the 120 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: flood gates open? I don't think so. We'll talk to 121 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: Paul Goldsmith about that. Before six fourteen, after five ram 122 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: for food price is up five percent in the year 123 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: to August. The dairy main driver mel cup sixteen percent, 124 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: cheese up twenty six percent, butter up thirty two percent, meat, poultry, 125 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: fish all up eight point one percent. Brad Olson in 126 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: for Metrics with us this morning. Brad, Good morning to you. 127 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: Good morning. Hey. Did you see the global dairy trade 128 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: auction numbers overnight? 129 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 7: Your thoughts I did a little bit down, I think, 130 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 7: probably highlighting that. Look, we're still seeing our foster globe 131 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 7: a bit of trying to find where things are going 132 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 7: to level out in terms of both supply and demand. 133 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 7: But I think also again on one hand, encouraging for 134 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 7: households in the sense that you haven't seen in the 135 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 7: food price data but is basically been flat the last 136 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 7: three months. But at the same time, if you're starting 137 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 7: to see the GDP come down, it does just makes 138 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 7: you a bit nervous about those very high commodity prices 139 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 7: that we're getting at the moment. If the GDT continues 140 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 7: to fall, then yes, you might have ever so slightly 141 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 7: cheaper butter prices, but the primary sector might not be 142 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 7: earning quite as much either. 143 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they are expected to I mean either whole 144 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: they should actually get to new record highs according to 145 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: some economists. 146 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 7: The yeah, well, I mean we're certainly hopeful of those 147 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 7: better times to come. But again, I mean, you see 148 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 7: that coming through in the food price data released yesterday, 149 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 7: which does highlight that from a household perspective, you're still 150 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 7: seeing some pretty big costs. Interestingly, though, again we're still 151 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 7: seeing that those cost pressures are coming through in a 152 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 7: more contained fashion. So you know, go back a couple 153 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 7: of years when inflation was running rampant, and you really 154 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 7: still quite a broad based level of inflation just about 155 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 7: everything was increasing in price at a fairly rapid pace. Nowadays, 156 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 7: it's not everything, it's just that it's quite a few 157 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 7: of the high frequency items that you notice a whole 158 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 7: lot more. It's the fact that you know, minces increased significantly, 159 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 7: steak all of your dairy. But we've also seen in 160 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 7: the latest food numbers just a few bits of easing. 161 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 7: The likes of olive oil prices, which we're very high 162 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 7: a couple of years back, are now starting to come down. 163 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 7: The likes of coffee prices also easing, ever so slightly, 164 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 7: still elevated, still expensive, but continuing to sort of shift 165 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 7: in the right direction, you'd. 166 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: Say, outside bred outside of food, we are seeing rents 167 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: come down though, right, So does that sort of I mean, 168 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: I see ASP's come out and said they probably are 169 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: picking two point nine percent for September, which is below 170 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: forecast of the RBNZ. So is there actually a silver 171 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: lining to all this? 172 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 7: Well, I think it's just so mixed, depending on exactly 173 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 7: who you are and what you're buying. Yes, we've seen 174 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 7: that that rental pressure has really eased back. That's generally 175 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 7: a lot more concentrated in our urban centers. Auckland and 176 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 7: Wellington in particular, So if you're renting in the regions, 177 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 7: you're probably still not seeing all that much of a 178 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 7: better sort of position there. But the one that worries me, 179 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 7: I think the most. We spend a lot of time 180 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 7: talking about rent and about food, but it's the energy 181 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 7: prices that really get me. The fact that electricity and 182 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 7: gas are up something like eleven and fourteen percent year 183 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 7: on year respectively. Those are some pretty big gifty increases 184 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 7: coming through for what a fairly vital costs. You can't 185 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 7: choose not to have electricity or gas. You need to 186 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 7: be able to sort of heat your home and cook dinner, 187 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 7: So all of those sort of pressures show that look, 188 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 7: it's mixed out there. But even then getting towards the 189 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 7: top of the target band, yes, the Reserve Bank's still 190 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 7: got more scope to cut things, but realistically that's still 191 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 7: an uncomfortable level of inflation for everyone to be having 192 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 7: to handle. 193 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: Appreciate your time. Brad brad Elson, Infametric's chief economist. My 194 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: mum used to say, don't put the heater on, just 195 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: wear another jersey, put a jumper on. Ryan, Not that 196 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: I'm saying that's what everyone should be doing at home 197 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: this morning. It's but chilly. The interesting thing about this 198 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: review of the Aviation Action Plan the government released yesterday. 199 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: One of the things they're looking at is the cap 200 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: on student loans, which apparently is the big barrier if 201 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: you're a young person who wants to be a pilot. 202 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: You cannot borrow all you need to borrow to in 203 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: order to get get a pilot's license to cover your 204 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: tuition fees. Why not we' look at that next. 205 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early 206 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and One Route Love where you live. 207 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: News Talk said, be it has just gone twenty after 208 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: five on News Talk said be Aviation New Zealand fee 209 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: Sorry Airways New Zealand fees. Getting a look under the hood. 210 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 2: This is part of the reason, part of the reason 211 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: why we pay more to fly around the country. The 212 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: Associate Transport Minister, James Mega says, reviewing a bunch is 213 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: reviewing a bunch of stuff. He's released the Aviation Action Plan. 214 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: Billy Moore is the Airport's Association CEO with me this morning, Billy, 215 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: good morning, good morning. What did you make of the plan? 216 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 8: Well, we're really happy to see this plan come out 217 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 8: it's hard to believe, but there's never really been a 218 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 8: government aviation plan or strategy before, so this is the 219 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 8: first time that something like this has come out where 220 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 8: government and industry have come together, set some objective and 221 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 8: we'll get some government if it's mobilized around the aviation sector. 222 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 8: Most of the if it in government policy is very 223 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 8: much in land transport, so we're really keen to make 224 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 8: the most of this opportunity. 225 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: How is it that we've had basically an outdated student 226 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: loan cap for people who want to be pilots, you know, 227 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: the loan doesn't cover the tuition fees. 228 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 8: Well, it's been a big issue and something the industry 229 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 8: has been talking with government about for a long time. 230 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 8: We haven't got so far in this plan in terms 231 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 8: of getting a commitment to listing the loan cap, but 232 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 8: there is a commitment from Ministry of Education to work 233 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 8: on the overall policy settings on pilot training. It is 234 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 8: going to be essential to sort something out there. Pilot's 235 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 8: going to be in huge demand globally as we get 236 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:54,359 Speaker 8: more innovations in the aviation sector, including vertical take off aircraft. 237 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 8: We already have a shortage, so we've got to get 238 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 8: a move on in that space. So at least we've 239 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 8: got a commitment to a program. 240 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: Now I see a Harkia is getting an upgrade. It's 241 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: going to be the alternate for wide body aircraft. What 242 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: happens with Auckland, Like if you're flying into Auckland and 243 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: Auckland Airport's out of action, where do you go to 244 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: in a big plane? 245 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 8: Look, it's different for different airlines, but the key thing 246 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 8: is that airlines need the certainty that they've got options 247 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 8: for alternate lending. So it's really normal for them to 248 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 8: have an alternate nominated. But a HAKIA is a really 249 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 8: important one and we haven't had twee for seven options 250 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 8: for a HAKIA to be available to the airlines and 251 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 8: situations where there's safe or weather or other issues. So 252 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 8: it helps a lot. Otherwise they need to carry more 253 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 8: fuel to go further south, say the Christian Yees. 254 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: So because basically if you're coming into Auckland, Auckland's out 255 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: of action, there's nowhere you'd have to go, what to 256 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: the South Island potentially. 257 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 8: Sometimes to Wellington, but Wellington isn't always to be suitable, 258 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 8: although it will be soon when they've got their runway 259 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 8: upgrades completed. So it's about having more options just gives 260 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 8: airlines greater certainty and we. 261 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: Could at least get to a Hark ye but is 262 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: that weird because it is the biggest airport, it's where 263 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: most people fly into and the closest you can get 264 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: is like a five hour drive. 265 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 8: Yeah, look, Hamilton might be an option at some stage 266 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 8: as well. The more options and good infrastructure that we have, 267 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 8: the better. Really on this plan will also focus on 268 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 8: the future infrastructure requires requirements we need in the system, 269 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 8: including airspace and having a hakier on that list and 270 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 8: the ability for that to be available for longer hours 271 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 8: for airlines. It's going to be an important first step. 272 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Billy, appreciate your time this morning. Thank you, Billy Moore, 273 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: New Zealand Airport's Association Chief Executive. Because the other thing 274 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: is you could go to Hamilton potentially, depending on the 275 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: size of your plane, go to Hamilton, but then you 276 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: need the border staff there. So then they have because 277 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: I had a friend who was sitting on a plane 278 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: on the tarmac and they were there, they were in 279 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: New Zealand. But then you have to get the border 280 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: staff out of bed or whatever and then get them 281 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: in a car down to Hamilton before you can get 282 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: yourself off the plane because you need to be processed 283 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: through customs. Twenty four minutes after five, News TALKSVB will 284 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: look at the lay of the land in the world 285 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: of politics. 286 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: Next the early edition Full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio 287 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: powered by NEWSTALKSB. 288 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: News Talks FB five twenty six This morning, Like it 289 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: or not, next year's big dance and politics will ultimately 290 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: be decided by the few, not the many. Most MMP 291 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: elections have been the minnows hold the keys to the kingdom. 292 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: Be it Winston with what will it be as best 293 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: result ever potentially or to Party Malori with the overhand. 294 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: Getting the Left in twenty twenty six won't be a 295 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty landslide. The difference this time is how extreme 296 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: some of those smaller parties, or more to the point, 297 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: some of their MPs have become. Think Takuta on Indians, 298 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: think Simon Court on Palestine. It's not just rhetoric though, 299 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: but policy too. A separate Maldi parliament, renationalizing power companies, 300 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: says Uncle Shane, you name it, they'll go there. The 301 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: temptation for the behemoths, the broad churches, the big lots. 302 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: Is to emulate what's getting traction, to dip your toe 303 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: in the pool of radical ideas, to be establishment without 304 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: looking or sounding like it. Trump and the Mega Movement 305 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: are the best example of doing this. In the UK, 306 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: parties that have been around since Moses was a linebacker 307 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: are being absolutely whipped in the polls by newer upstarts 308 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: with one thing on their pledged cards radical change. The 309 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: Conservatives have been around for two hundred years, reform UK six. 310 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: The big issues, of course do differ our cost of 311 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: living malaise as their immigration, So the temptation must be 312 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: to embrace a bit of that radical spirit, and Labour 313 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 2: might just do that. Yet we just don't know what 314 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,359 Speaker 2: they're cooking up behind the scenes. My prediction, though, establishment 315 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: parties will do what establishment parties do, stick to the script, 316 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: copy paste the policies, hug the center like a koala 317 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: to a tree, and I hope their buddies grab enough 318 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: from the fraying edges to get them across the line. 319 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: Their bet is that crises come and go, but established 320 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: parties don't, even though the Brits and the Americans show 321 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: us they can and do. Brian twenty eight after five 322 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: News Talks, they b we'll get to speaking of MAGA 323 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: and speaking of Trump, We'll get to the UK with 324 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: Gavin Gray. Shortly. Trump's touching down for his second state 325 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: visit there, and Lisa Cook, She's going to be at 326 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: this meeting. The Fed's making big fed rate cup meeting 327 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: coming tonight. We'll have that number for you tomorrow morning. 328 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: By the way, inflation is running outside their target there. 329 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: But will Trump's political pressure mean that they actually cut anyway. 330 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: They've also had some soft job numbers, so they're worried 331 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: about that. But guess who's going to be at the meeting. 332 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: Lisa Cook. So Trump's you know, emergency request to remove 333 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: her from this meeting hasn't worked. A federal appeals court 334 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 2: overnight rejected the plea from the White House, so Lisa 335 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: Cook will be there. I wonder which which way she 336 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: will vote on this. One News Talks. 337 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: Edb get ahead of the headlines on early edition with 338 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and one roof Love Where you Live News 339 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: talks edby. 340 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: Going it is twenty four away from six on your 341 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 2: Wednesday morning. Great to have your company. Trump is touching 342 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 2: down in the UK for his second state visit. He's 343 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: very excited. The Brits will go to Gavin Gray shortly. 344 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: Also this morning, the Justice Minister on the new crime 345 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: not crime, but incarceration. You're more likely now than ever 346 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: before to go to jail if you commit crimes. That's 347 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: before six o'clock. Graham texts the program. Ryan watching Hipkins 348 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: on the news last night on TV one saying that 349 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: departsy Maldi are too radical to align with Labor. I 350 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: don't believe them. Yeah, well, no one believes that. I mean, 351 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. If it's the difference between getting into power 352 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: and not getting into power, then you get into power, 353 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: don't you. That's what politicians do. Luke says Ryan. I 354 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: don't believe I'll be voting for the John Timmerheading Retirement 355 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: Trust anytime soon. The thing is, I had Tipkins on 356 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 2: my Herald Now show, this live streaming show in the 357 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: mornings yesterday and asked them all about this, and he 358 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: said his comments were in their current form, the way 359 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: that these comments are being portrayed or the way that 360 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: they were posted on social media, from taker to Fares, 361 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: I won't there's no room for that in any government 362 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: I lead. Now that doesn't mean anything. Literally doesn't mean anything. 363 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 2: It means you could fall at the altar and say 364 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: that you're sorry and it's all fine. Or it just 365 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: means that you won't put him anywhere near cabinet, which 366 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: was probably never going to happen anyway. So I'm with you, Graham. 367 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily believe that it means March twenty two, 368 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 2: Away from six gray Bridge reporters around the country This 369 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: morning Cullum Proctor in Duned and Culm, Good morning morning Ryan. 370 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 2: This bird flu contamination farm we spoke about a we 371 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 2: whiled back back in business, eggs on the shelves yep. Correct. 372 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 9: Remember this was so the Mainland Poultry managed Hillgrove property 373 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 9: back in December last year, two hundred thousand chickens cold. 374 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: Due to the bird flu virus. 375 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 9: But nine months on the back in business and new 376 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 9: eggs have now been laid and repopulation eforts are in 377 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 9: full swing there. The chief executive is John McKay. He's 378 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 9: told us, look, it's been a tough long road to 379 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 9: get to where they are now back up and running, 380 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 9: but he's proud of how resilient they've been. He says, 381 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 9: after having an empty farm having eggs out of sheds 382 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 9: is light at the end of the tunnel and the 383 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 9: whole experience has been a good learning one for the 384 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 9: whole industry and how to improve biosecurity for the future. 385 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: Right and your weather, callum. 386 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 9: We've got some heavy rain on the way this morning, 387 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 9: clearing this afternoon, those strong northerlies the high nineteen today. 388 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: Thank you clears and christ Church clear, good morning, good morning. 389 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: Forget about food prices, what about the Crusaders. 390 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 10: Yeah, well, the Crusaders rugby franchise is sticking by this 391 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 10: decision to lift to their prices for members for next season. 392 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 10: Fans are able to secure their memberships from today. The passes, 393 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 10: of course, will include some games at the new stadium, 394 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 10: but not all. There are some concerns though about the 395 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 10: price increases. For example, a family of four is now 396 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 10: going to cost two and a half times more than 397 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 10: what they've been paying so far. We spoke with the 398 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 10: CEO of the Crusaders, though, Colin Mansbridge. He says, look, 399 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 10: moving venues was always going to cost more because they're 400 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 10: simply incomparable. He does warn there'll be more increases too 401 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 10: beyond twenty twenty seven. He says, to be fair, though, 402 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 10: you will be able to almost touch the players from 403 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 10: the best seats, and he says these two venues are 404 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 10: like comparing a Ford Cortina two eight ferrari. 405 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: How's the weather cloud increasing? 406 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 10: A few spots of rain about. We're under a strong 407 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 10: wind warning two for northwesterlyes gusting ninety kilometers per hour 408 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 10: the high twenty two. 409 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: All right, thank you Max Is in Wellington, morning Max, 410 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: Good morning at these priests gone back to the churches 411 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: their congregations yet or what yeah? 412 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 11: With the weather packing in last night in the capital. 413 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 11: I certainly don't blame them. These were there were six 414 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 11: Anglican and Catholic priests. I don't blame them not wanting 415 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 11: to spend another night chained outside Nicola Willis's electorate office 416 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 11: and they had been reduced to four before calling a night. Officially, 417 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 11: they say they are happy their message was heard. Sanction Israel. 418 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 11: That's what they've been calling for, even though they ultimately 419 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 11: didn't get what they wanted, and that was a meeting 420 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 11: with the minister. And a quote here from Nicola Willis, 421 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 11: I will not be setting a precedent about the way 422 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 11: to get a meeting with me is to don an 423 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 11: adult nappy and chain yourself to a door. A little 424 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 11: tougher response in Auckland though, by Simeon Brown, who got trespassed. 425 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 11: Notices served on the five members of the clergy yesterday 426 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 11: who tried the same stunt. They left pretty quickly when 427 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 11: police arrived. 428 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, what did you think of it? I thought it 429 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 2: was a little over the top from the like. I know, 430 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 2: church numbers are down, so are they just sort of 431 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: trying to take their message to the streets. I don't know. 432 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 2: How's you wear the max? 433 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, you sort of resk getting people offside with 434 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 11: the message. Cloud and showers very strong northwesterlies today getting 435 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 11: up to fifteen. 436 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: All right, thank you. Wendy's in Auckland with us this morning. Wendy, 437 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: good morning, Great to see you you too. We've got 438 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: an upgrade for our army barracks in South Auckland. 439 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 7: We do. 440 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 12: The government says there's a lot of work to do 441 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 12: to address the decades of neglect in our defense force. 442 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 12: News Talk z B has confirmed the barracks at Papacuta 443 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 12: Military Base of being replaced after being vacated in May 444 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 12: following the discovery of mold last year. Associate Defense Minister 445 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 12: Chris Pinks says a defense data suffered from decades of 446 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 12: under investment. He says some defense facilities have become outdated, 447 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 12: leaky or moldy. Bank says the government has committed to 448 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 12: this significant work that is needed to bring defense buildings 449 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 12: to a modern standard. 450 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: All right, house, our weather, Wendy, Well. 451 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 12: It's looking a little bit better this afternoon. Cloudy periods 452 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 12: with isolated showers in the morning and again those longer 453 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 12: fine spells ofsavo northwesterlies. Heading for our eighteen degree high 454 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 12: though it's pretty warm. 455 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: It is very warm out there. It was slight sweat 456 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: on the walk yesterday. 457 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 12: Yes, I hear you same on a little run, a 458 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 12: little bit sweaty. 459 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: All right, very good, good to see Wendy. Thank you. 460 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: Eighteen minutes away from six o'clock in Sweden. Because you 461 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: know we've been talking about the phone bands, and we 462 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 2: mentioned yesterday about France, well Sweden. From autumn twenty twenty six, 463 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: all schools and all after school clubs have got to 464 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: collect and hold the student's phones until the end of 465 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: the day. And I was going to ask you for 466 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: parents out there or for students who are listening on 467 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: their way to roaming whatever it might be. Do you 468 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: have to hand the phone in or is it just 469 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 2: if you get caught with it then you get in trouble? 470 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 2: Nineteen nine two. The number to text it is eighteen 471 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 2: to six Paul Goldsmith, the Justice Minister. Before six next 472 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 2: we're in the UK for Trump's big visit news talks. 473 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: There'd be just gone quarter to six. Geez, loads of mum's, 474 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: dads and kids off to Rowing this morning. I was 475 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 2: just asking because Sweden is going to ban the phones 476 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 2: like we have banned the phones in schools here. They're 477 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: doing it from next year, and I just asked a question. 478 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 2: Does the school take the phone off you when you 479 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: arrive at school, put it in a box or something, 480 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: or can you keep it on you all day? Ryan, 481 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 2: Thanks for the shout out to Rowing this morning on 482 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: my way to Saint Ken's where I cox. It's just 483 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: if you get caught with it, otherwise it sits in 484 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 2: my pocket all day. So there's your answer. 485 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: Fourteen to six International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance 486 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business. 487 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: Second state visit for Donald Trump as he arrives in 488 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: the UK very excited about this. How excited are the Brits? 489 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: Scavin's with us this morning, Gavin, Good morning. 490 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 13: Yeah, very very tied security operation on this, of course, Ryan, 491 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 13: along with the recent assassination of the Charlie Kirk and 492 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 13: the attempted hit on Donald Trump in the presidential campaign, 493 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 13: so vast quantities of security personnel, police and others on patrol. 494 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: He's due in the. 495 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 13: UK a little later today and then begins a very 496 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 13: exciting series of events. Exciting that is because this is 497 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 13: really unique, the only time that we've ever seen a 498 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 13: second state visit for a world leader, and Donald Trump 499 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 13: I think, suitably flattered, lots of pomp and ceremony, and 500 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 13: not surprisingly, this government wants to cash in and make 501 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 13: the most of it. And that is why that we're 502 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 13: also hearing that Google's owner Alphabet is announcing an eleven 503 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 13: billion New Zealand dollar investment in UK artificial intelligence. That's 504 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 13: going to mean data center improvements, It's also going to 505 00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 13: mean funding an advanced scientific research center and effect. Yeah, 506 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 13: the going to be several other announcements of big American 507 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 13: investments in the UK in the coming days. 508 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: What's the feeling like there from the Brits about him coming. 509 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: Is it mostly agnostic that a lot of what we're 510 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: seeing in the media here is very negative. 511 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think there's going to be a bit of negativity, 512 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 13: and that's why they have really really worked out his 513 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 13: itinerary and how close he's going to come to the public, 514 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 13: and of course with the public will be protesters, and 515 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 13: I think as well, there are so few opportunities for 516 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 13: those protesters to get near him within earshot. That seems 517 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 13: to be a bit of apathy about it all actually, 518 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 13: that it's all going to be, you know, rather difficult 519 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 13: for people to get their voices heard. That said, I 520 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 13: think there are plenty of people as well who think, 521 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 13: you know, this investment is so needed. Today we've had 522 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 13: a bad set of economic figures, so potentially that's good 523 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 13: news on that front. But yeah, this is all about 524 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 13: trying to impress Donald Trump with pomp and ceremony, and 525 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 13: certainly when he found out he was to get this 526 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 13: unprecedented second state visit, he made a big thing about 527 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 13: saying what an honor it was for America, and dare 528 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 13: I said, what an honor for him? 529 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: Kevin Gray are UK, you're a correspondent. Cheers Gavin it 530 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: is twelve to six crime Bridge, do the crime, do 531 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: the time. This is new Ministry of Justice figures out 532 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: this morning. The year to June seven, four hundred people 533 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: were sent to prison following a conviction. That is a 534 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: fourteen percent jump on last year, a thirty five percent 535 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: jump on twenty two to twenty three. Paul Goldsmith, the 536 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: Justice minister. Minister, good morning, good morning, how are you good? 537 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: Thank you? Is that as high as you would want it? 538 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 14: Well, I mean, our focus is not on a prison number. 539 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 14: Our focus is on reducing the number of victims of crime. 540 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 14: And so what we're seeing that there has been a 541 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 14: bit of a rebalancing going on. 542 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: You know, the. 543 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 14: Previous government was focused on reducing the prison population come 544 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 14: what may, and unfortunately that sort of at the same 545 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 14: time we had a big increase in crime, and particularly 546 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 14: violent crime. And so our focus is on reducing the 547 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 14: number of victims of crime and if that leads to 548 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 14: a higher prison population in the short term, will show 549 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 14: be it a long term of course, we want to 550 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 14: have less crime, less people in prison. 551 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 2: Are the rates making sense? In other words, that a 552 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: fourteen percent increase in prison sentences following convictions are we 553 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: seeing a consummate four in violent crime reporting. 554 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 14: Well yeah, I mean, look, all these figures are complicated, 555 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 14: these big lags. The figure that we focus on in 556 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 14: terms of our target is the Crime and Victims survey, 557 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 14: of course, of cause, a lot of people don't report 558 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 14: crime to the police and that doesn't go through the 559 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 14: whole core process, but they're still victims, and on that 560 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 14: score we are seeing an improvement. We had one hundred 561 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 14: and eighty five thousand New Zealanders being a victim of 562 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 14: serious violent or sexual offending when we came to power. 563 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 14: That numbers down to one hundred and fifty six thousand. 564 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 14: Still one hundred and fifty six thousand too many, but 565 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 14: it is a significant improvement. So we're making progress. There 566 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 14: are a fewer victims of crime, but there's a hell 567 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 14: of a lot more. 568 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: Work to do. Maldi two times more likely to get 569 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: a prison sentence than non Maldi, non Maldi more likely 570 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: to get a monetary sentence. Why racist judges or types 571 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: of crime? 572 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 14: Well, look, I think it's primarily the later. That if 573 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 14: the vast majority of people who go to prison in 574 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 14: New Zealand are there for serious violent or sexual offending, Yes, 575 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 14: these stature are slight and increase in the number of 576 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 14: people for drug offenses, but that's still a very small 577 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 14: minority of people in prison. Most people going to prison 578 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 14: in New Zealand have committed serious, violent or sexual offending. 579 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 14: And you know, we make no apology. We need to 580 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 14: have clear consequences for crime and our focuses on keeping 581 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 14: the people of New Zealand safe. 582 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: What's your take on the Tom Phillips in junction situation. 583 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: Is your view that are because it's out there, just 584 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: because it's on social media, we should let it run. 585 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 14: No, it's not my view. My view is that the 586 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 14: courts have imposed suppression orders and that's for the courts 587 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 14: to decide, and I'm not going to interfere with that. 588 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 14: In the new way shape, there is obviously a challenge 589 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 14: in the sense that with the fact that people get 590 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 14: their information all from all around the world and it's 591 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 14: impossible to police the Internet and what people in Kazakhstan 592 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 14: are saying on TikTok or whatever, then that's a challenge. 593 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 14: And the only point I'd make is that nobody's presented 594 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 14: me with an effective solution to that. But we're looking 595 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 14: and if we could find one, we would, but in 596 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 14: the meantime, the courts are doing the best they can. 597 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: What's the punishment, because not just people in kazakhstance people here. 598 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: What is the punishment? 599 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 14: Well, I don't know the exact figure, but that there 600 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 14: is certainly a potential finds for people who break suppression orders. 601 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 14: Is a fine that's a matter for the courts to impose. Well, 602 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 14: they may have more. I'm sorry, I just don't. I 603 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 14: don't have the details in front of me. But the 604 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 14: courts have the ability to enforce that. But that obviously 605 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 14: is for them to and the police to make decisions 606 00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 14: around that. 607 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: Do you think it's time to double down? I mean, 608 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: whatever the punishment is, clearly it's not enough because people 609 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: aren't scared enough, you know what I mean. And you're 610 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: all about harsher penalties, so is this something you'll look at. 611 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 14: Well, sorry, I'm not all about harsher penalties. I'm about 612 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 14: consequences for crime. But I'm about reducing the number of 613 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 14: victims of crime. That's our real focus. And you know, look, 614 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 14: my primary focus is on trying to reduce the number 615 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 14: of people who are victims of violent and sexual offending. 616 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 14: And that's the number one priority. And there's still a 617 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 14: huge amount of work to do there. 618 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: All right, Okay, good to see Paul Goldsmith. Hoesday, Justice Minister. 619 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: Time is eight to six. You're on you Tuesday. There's 620 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: a lot of rowing people out there, Ryan, My kids 621 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 2: handing their phones at the start of the day. It's 622 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: a primary school, secondary school. You keep it and get 623 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: in trouble if you're caught with it, Ryan, go Westlake 624 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: girls rowing, says Cris and Ryan. My teenage daughter and 625 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: all her friends talk via WhatsApp and other apps on 626 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: their school computers, so the cell phones aren't even needed, 627 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: says Carl. News Talk said, be. 628 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iheard Radio Early Edition 629 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and one roof Love, where you Live, 630 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: News Talks ed b News Talks. 631 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: He'd be just gone five away from sex. Thank you 632 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: for all your texts this morning. And nine to nine 633 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 2: two is the number. MIC's in the studio. He's with 634 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: you next, Mike, Good morning morning. I'm a little bit. 635 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 4: Of upset on the car situation. 636 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: We're still going on about the make so you. 637 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 4: Raised it, you started it. So first of all, my 638 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 4: wife's now upset with you. What so she was a 639 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 4: fan of yours yesterday, but she's upset with you now. 640 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 4: She thought you'd take my advice about the putting the 641 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 4: thing back on, and you just sort of dismissed it. Kate, 642 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 4: I think a range of advice. Well, she didn't realize that. 643 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: She thought you treated me with an element of respect 644 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 4: and you'd put it on. More importantly than this, I 645 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 4: was told that you are, and I'm disappointed in you 646 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 4: for this, That you presented the story to me as 647 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 4: though you just had it. The thing had fallen off 648 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 4: the car. I've been told that it had been that 649 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 4: way for a very long period of time, and you'd 650 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 4: been driving around with it just dragging off the bottom 651 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 4: of your car. And you're clearly one of those people, 652 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 4: when presented with the problem, doesn't actually fix. 653 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: It and just lets it go on. Here is I 654 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: don't know where you get your information very good information. 655 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: So what I thought was happening because I thought it 656 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: was the shock exhorbers. Yes there was a sound, okay, 657 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: but I never got down on my hands, and needed 658 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: didn't look to see the problem. Don't look, don't see 659 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: How many days. 660 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 4: Did that drag on? For literally and figuratively weeks? 661 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: Apparently so again, I was like, I gotta go. I've 662 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: got to go and get my shop. Exhorbers done running 663 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: around busy anyway, let's sort it all right. 664 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 4: Hundreds of people saw you just dragging half your card 665 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 4: except me, not a man who's into actually, so it's 666 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 4: an interesting insight into your personality. So you're not interested 667 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 4: in my advice, you're not interested problems. 668 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: Now, you're not need to have any so sensitive I 669 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: was interested in your advice. I just didn't take it. 670 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 2: Mike's next new TOGSIV. 671 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: For more fam earlier edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 672 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: to News Talk SETB from five am weekdays, or follow 673 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio