1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. 3 00:00:12,907 --> 00:00:15,427 Speaker 2: Go back to talking football on News Talk z BE 4 00:00:15,707 --> 00:00:19,027 Speaker 2: searching for goal to break the deadlock. 5 00:00:20,027 --> 00:00:35,147 Speaker 3: Degrees in in front of them, one man mana mano, 6 00:00:37,347 --> 00:00:39,667 Speaker 3: We're the finished in quality. 7 00:00:40,507 --> 00:00:42,987 Speaker 2: So Neil, what was against the Newcastle Jets yesterday at 8 00:00:42,987 --> 00:00:45,987 Speaker 2: Mount Smart Stadium? Call in the game for Sky was 9 00:00:45,987 --> 00:00:48,227 Speaker 2: from Raal White. Jacob Spoonley. He joins us now on 10 00:00:48,267 --> 00:00:50,427 Speaker 2: Newstalk ZBB. Good afternoon, Jacob. 11 00:00:51,387 --> 00:00:54,547 Speaker 4: Good afternoon, Elliott. Look before my time's coming on this 12 00:00:54,707 --> 00:00:58,987 Speaker 4: wonderful show. Today feels different. I don't want to say better, Elliott, 13 00:00:59,547 --> 00:01:02,027 Speaker 4: but it's hitting that way. I can't put my finger 14 00:01:02,027 --> 00:01:03,547 Speaker 4: on what exactly it is. Domte. 15 00:01:03,587 --> 00:01:05,467 Speaker 2: Oh look I can't put my finger on it either, 16 00:01:05,507 --> 00:01:07,907 Speaker 2: but let's see what we can do in this chatter. 17 00:01:09,347 --> 00:01:11,947 Speaker 2: Five in a row. Who would have picked that, Jacob? 18 00:01:12,147 --> 00:01:15,307 Speaker 2: I mean, what world would you have expected an expansion 19 00:01:15,347 --> 00:01:17,867 Speaker 2: team to bank fifteen points from their first five games. 20 00:01:19,267 --> 00:01:23,627 Speaker 4: It is absolutely remarkable, Elliot. But I think it is 21 00:01:23,667 --> 00:01:27,467 Speaker 4: an indication as to the quiet work that's gone on 22 00:01:27,987 --> 00:01:30,827 Speaker 4: in football over the last ten years. The player development 23 00:01:30,867 --> 00:01:33,027 Speaker 4: side of things has been there and we know we've 24 00:01:33,027 --> 00:01:37,347 Speaker 4: got this young cohort coming through. We also know that 25 00:01:37,387 --> 00:01:41,627 Speaker 4: we've been underrepresented in the A leagues as Kiwi's in 26 00:01:41,707 --> 00:01:46,947 Speaker 4: Auckland is this wonderfully wonderful sporting market. It seems that 27 00:01:46,987 --> 00:01:49,267 Speaker 4: we've got a confluence of all those things and they've 28 00:01:49,267 --> 00:01:52,747 Speaker 4: come together perfectly so that we've got this Auckland airc 29 00:01:52,907 --> 00:01:56,067 Speaker 4: team that has not only been great, Elliott, but is 30 00:01:56,387 --> 00:02:00,707 Speaker 4: historically great. They have surpassed so many records now and 31 00:02:00,747 --> 00:02:04,147 Speaker 4: the one that is really remarkable is last night they've 32 00:02:04,147 --> 00:02:07,947 Speaker 4: brought they broke a forty seven year old record that 33 00:02:08,067 --> 00:02:12,227 Speaker 4: has stood since nineteen seventy seven and that belonged to 34 00:02:12,307 --> 00:02:17,267 Speaker 4: Western Suburbs in Sydney. So Auckland has now bone the 35 00:02:17,467 --> 00:02:21,187 Speaker 4: longest without conceding a goal and as they've joined the 36 00:02:21,187 --> 00:02:23,387 Speaker 4: top tier in the Australian competition. 37 00:02:23,267 --> 00:02:25,867 Speaker 2: It's remarkable, isn't it. I mean, how have they done 38 00:02:25,867 --> 00:02:29,547 Speaker 2: it on the park? You mentioned that defensive stat there. 39 00:02:29,587 --> 00:02:32,587 Speaker 2: They've obviously banged in goals at the other end as well, 40 00:02:32,627 --> 00:02:35,907 Speaker 2: but it seems like the whole team is in sync 41 00:02:35,947 --> 00:02:38,627 Speaker 2: at this point of the season, which is remarkable given 42 00:02:38,747 --> 00:02:41,907 Speaker 2: how late some players come in to the A League. 43 00:02:41,947 --> 00:02:43,547 Speaker 2: It just seems like everything has clicked. 44 00:02:45,027 --> 00:02:46,587 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think one of the things that is 45 00:02:46,627 --> 00:02:50,267 Speaker 4: overlooked is that there's the key we contingent the fact 46 00:02:50,267 --> 00:02:52,987 Speaker 4: that this team is built on a foundation of local players. 47 00:02:53,027 --> 00:02:56,267 Speaker 4: So if we look at this squad, there's eighteen new 48 00:02:56,347 --> 00:03:00,947 Speaker 4: Zealanders in this team. That is absolutely stark contrasts to 49 00:03:01,107 --> 00:03:03,027 Speaker 4: what we had with the Knights. And also I think 50 00:03:03,067 --> 00:03:05,667 Speaker 4: with the Kings as well, Elliott of the eighteen and 51 00:03:05,707 --> 00:03:08,467 Speaker 4: the squad eleven have seen game time this season, and 52 00:03:08,507 --> 00:03:10,947 Speaker 4: there were eight new Zealanders that were on the field yesterday. 53 00:03:10,987 --> 00:03:13,587 Speaker 4: So these are all players that have grown up together. 54 00:03:13,587 --> 00:03:15,827 Speaker 4: They're not familiar to the audience, but they are familiar 55 00:03:15,827 --> 00:03:19,787 Speaker 4: with each other. You then compliment that with a coach 56 00:03:19,867 --> 00:03:23,827 Speaker 4: that has won numerous titles, both championships and then also 57 00:03:23,867 --> 00:03:27,667 Speaker 4: playoffs in the A League and Steve Coriker, Terry mcflynn 58 00:03:27,987 --> 00:03:30,187 Speaker 4: the director of football. He's somebody that knows this league 59 00:03:30,227 --> 00:03:33,707 Speaker 4: inside out, both as a player and then as an administrator. 60 00:03:35,027 --> 00:03:38,827 Speaker 4: And you add on to that as the last factor, 61 00:03:39,227 --> 00:03:43,267 Speaker 4: they're well resourced and highly motivated ownership group that is 62 00:03:43,307 --> 00:03:46,907 Speaker 4: expanding at this point in time, obviously led by Bill Foley, 63 00:03:46,947 --> 00:03:51,187 Speaker 4: but then and am Moobray, Ali Williams, Tim Brown, Winston reed. 64 00:03:51,627 --> 00:03:54,507 Speaker 4: These are all people that are very passionate about football, 65 00:03:54,907 --> 00:03:58,267 Speaker 4: and at the moment the alchemy is beautifully balanced. 66 00:03:58,867 --> 00:04:00,427 Speaker 2: I don't have the numbers in front of me, but 67 00:04:00,427 --> 00:04:02,547 Speaker 2: they seem to have scored a lot of their goals. 68 00:04:03,187 --> 00:04:06,387 Speaker 2: L I mean, that's in itself quite remarkable, isn't. 69 00:04:06,227 --> 00:04:08,187 Speaker 4: It, Elliott, I have the number. 70 00:04:10,227 --> 00:04:12,307 Speaker 2: That's what brilliance. 71 00:04:13,867 --> 00:04:16,467 Speaker 4: Look. The one thing, the one criticism that can be 72 00:04:18,507 --> 00:04:20,667 Speaker 4: made of the team is that they haven't gone ahead 73 00:04:20,747 --> 00:04:24,227 Speaker 4: necessarily early, Elliott, so they were crossly get last night. 74 00:04:24,227 --> 00:04:28,987 Speaker 4: They were wonderful chances to haul Brimmer and my but 75 00:04:29,267 --> 00:04:31,627 Speaker 4: they did persevere and they have done throughout the course 76 00:04:31,627 --> 00:04:33,587 Speaker 4: of their five games so far. So six of the 77 00:04:33,667 --> 00:04:36,587 Speaker 4: eight goals that they have scored have come after the 78 00:04:36,627 --> 00:04:39,187 Speaker 4: seventy five minute marks on the last stanze of the game. 79 00:04:39,627 --> 00:04:41,547 Speaker 4: But the remarkable thing, and this is where I think 80 00:04:41,547 --> 00:04:45,547 Speaker 4: you get into, is that they've scored three times beyond 81 00:04:45,547 --> 00:04:48,747 Speaker 4: the ninety And as Steve Parker said last night, although 82 00:04:48,787 --> 00:04:50,747 Speaker 4: he wants improvement and he doesn't want the kind of 83 00:04:51,707 --> 00:04:56,707 Speaker 4: heart attack kids giving them that each week, the character 84 00:04:56,747 --> 00:05:00,067 Speaker 4: that this team has demonstrated, and the kids, the togetherness 85 00:05:00,147 --> 00:05:03,027 Speaker 4: that they have been able to put and so into 86 00:05:03,107 --> 00:05:05,867 Speaker 4: each ninety is the thing that is probably the most 87 00:05:05,907 --> 00:05:08,987 Speaker 4: promising as we see them really start to get into 88 00:05:09,027 --> 00:05:10,467 Speaker 4: the grind of the A League season. 89 00:05:10,787 --> 00:05:12,747 Speaker 2: It's interesting what you mentioned about that the foundations for 90 00:05:12,787 --> 00:05:14,867 Speaker 2: this club off the field as well and the ownership, 91 00:05:14,867 --> 00:05:17,627 Speaker 2: because I've just come back from five weeks abroad following 92 00:05:17,707 --> 00:05:20,227 Speaker 2: rugby and come back to an Auckland city where there 93 00:05:20,227 --> 00:05:23,427 Speaker 2: are people on Queen Street wearing Auckland if C jumpers. 94 00:05:23,507 --> 00:05:26,067 Speaker 2: Yesterday I saw them going to the game. But on Thursday, 95 00:05:26,067 --> 00:05:28,627 Speaker 2: Friday and the lead up as well, Auckland if season 96 00:05:28,627 --> 00:05:30,747 Speaker 2: now got a coffee shop, they've got a couple of bars. 97 00:05:30,787 --> 00:05:34,147 Speaker 2: It seems like in the space of about five weeks the 98 00:05:34,227 --> 00:05:37,307 Speaker 2: city's gone a little bit football mad. 99 00:05:38,627 --> 00:05:41,147 Speaker 4: And the thing that I think people need to be 100 00:05:41,187 --> 00:05:43,307 Speaker 4: mindful of is that we've got that direct pathway into 101 00:05:43,307 --> 00:05:46,027 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty six World Cup, so I think we 102 00:05:46,107 --> 00:05:50,107 Speaker 4: have the ability to turn it up to eleven as well, Elliott. 103 00:05:51,427 --> 00:05:54,227 Speaker 4: But the important part of this is that Auckland has 104 00:05:54,267 --> 00:05:58,227 Speaker 4: always been a footballing city. We've got wonderful clubs on 105 00:05:58,307 --> 00:06:01,587 Speaker 4: the North the west, the south and the east of Auckland. 106 00:06:02,507 --> 00:06:04,787 Speaker 4: What we needed is a unifier and I think in 107 00:06:04,827 --> 00:06:09,187 Speaker 4: the blue and the Black representation and been part of 108 00:06:09,227 --> 00:06:13,707 Speaker 4: the conversation alongside the likes of Melbourne and Sydney. We've 109 00:06:13,827 --> 00:06:17,547 Speaker 4: got a shirt that people can get behind. Now. I 110 00:06:17,547 --> 00:06:21,227 Speaker 4: think people were absolutely frothing for this. They wanted it. 111 00:06:21,227 --> 00:06:22,947 Speaker 4: It was just a case of giving it to them 112 00:06:22,947 --> 00:06:24,667 Speaker 4: and making sure that it was executed in a way 113 00:06:24,667 --> 00:06:27,707 Speaker 4: that reflected Auckland. Because at the end of the day, 114 00:06:27,787 --> 00:06:30,187 Speaker 4: that's what a football club is, Elliott. It is a 115 00:06:30,387 --> 00:06:33,547 Speaker 4: representation of the community. It is part of the tapestry. 116 00:06:33,867 --> 00:06:36,787 Speaker 4: And when you think about the big pubs in the UK, 117 00:06:36,867 --> 00:06:39,867 Speaker 4: because that's always our reference point for a lot of parquier, 118 00:06:40,387 --> 00:06:43,867 Speaker 4: the likes of Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal, Tottenham, they've got 119 00:06:43,907 --> 00:06:47,427 Speaker 4: histories that extend beyond one hundred years. What Auckland needed 120 00:06:47,467 --> 00:06:50,907 Speaker 4: to do is at the accelerator and get that awareness, 121 00:06:51,267 --> 00:06:53,787 Speaker 4: get that feeling that they're part of the furniture of 122 00:06:53,827 --> 00:06:56,107 Speaker 4: the city and they needed to do that quickly and 123 00:06:56,147 --> 00:06:58,147 Speaker 4: I think in a lot of respects they have done that. 124 00:06:58,227 --> 00:07:00,587 Speaker 4: May and then your company that of course with the 125 00:07:00,667 --> 00:07:04,427 Speaker 4: slide at the ground, Elliott, And I'm not sure if 126 00:07:04,787 --> 00:07:08,347 Speaker 4: you're aware, but I Jason pine owes me a trip 127 00:07:08,387 --> 00:07:09,667 Speaker 4: down that slide at some point. 128 00:07:10,027 --> 00:07:11,907 Speaker 2: Well, can we make it next weekend of the derby? 129 00:07:11,907 --> 00:07:13,627 Speaker 2: That would really cap things off, wouldn't it. 130 00:07:14,467 --> 00:07:17,667 Speaker 4: If you were to put it out there that if 131 00:07:17,707 --> 00:07:20,947 Speaker 4: Wellington wins, I'll go down the slide and if Auckland wins, 132 00:07:20,987 --> 00:07:24,107 Speaker 4: Piney's going to be at the top of the south 133 00:07:24,147 --> 00:07:27,587 Speaker 4: the north end of Mount Smart Stadium. I'm all for that, Elliott. Well, 134 00:07:27,787 --> 00:07:29,707 Speaker 4: I am feeling the people were promised. 135 00:07:29,307 --> 00:07:32,547 Speaker 2: That I am filling it on the show, so I 136 00:07:32,547 --> 00:07:34,787 Speaker 2: guess I'm sort of a surrogate in some ways, so 137 00:07:35,187 --> 00:07:36,627 Speaker 2: I'll accept that on his behalf. 138 00:07:37,547 --> 00:07:41,227 Speaker 4: Oh fantastic, mate. But look, that's the weekend that we've 139 00:07:41,227 --> 00:07:44,627 Speaker 4: got coming up, Elliott. And we've had the first iteration, 140 00:07:44,747 --> 00:07:48,587 Speaker 4: we've now got the second coming of the derby. They 141 00:07:48,587 --> 00:07:50,947 Speaker 4: haven't confirmed it yet, but the whispers are that they 142 00:07:50,947 --> 00:07:53,267 Speaker 4: have sold out of tickets, and they did so two 143 00:07:53,307 --> 00:07:56,227 Speaker 4: weeks ago. So Auckland is see not only performing on 144 00:07:56,267 --> 00:07:59,787 Speaker 4: the field, but definitely putting investment off the field. And 145 00:07:59,827 --> 00:08:02,467 Speaker 4: the thing that we've reready got to manage is the 146 00:08:02,507 --> 00:08:04,347 Speaker 4: influence of the man that you are filling in for 147 00:08:04,427 --> 00:08:07,747 Speaker 4: the Wealentonians, the ones that he hit north to be 148 00:08:07,787 --> 00:08:11,347 Speaker 4: part of Go Media. Mount Smart Yellow Fever. Around about 149 00:08:11,347 --> 00:08:14,827 Speaker 4: one thousand will show up to Mount Spark Stadium next 150 00:08:14,867 --> 00:08:18,427 Speaker 4: weekend and we'll get to see not only the fireworks 151 00:08:18,427 --> 00:08:21,587 Speaker 4: on the field, but also the port and Yellow Fever 152 00:08:21,707 --> 00:08:24,427 Speaker 4: going back and forth at each other. Because that is 153 00:08:24,467 --> 00:08:28,147 Speaker 4: the thing that separates football from everything else in this country, 154 00:08:28,307 --> 00:08:32,267 Speaker 4: is that wonderful vibrancy, the color, the noise, the chance, 155 00:08:32,707 --> 00:08:36,907 Speaker 4: the enthusiasm, the expression of your city. And that is 156 00:08:36,947 --> 00:08:40,067 Speaker 4: the one thing that I'm absolutely pumped for next weekend. 157 00:08:40,187 --> 00:08:41,827 Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking about that yesterday because we've had 158 00:08:41,867 --> 00:08:44,587 Speaker 2: big football matches that the World Cup qualifiers and everything 159 00:08:44,667 --> 00:08:47,387 Speaker 2: like that. But to have a domestic derby where these 160 00:08:47,387 --> 00:08:49,347 Speaker 2: two teams are going at it is something that we 161 00:08:49,387 --> 00:08:52,787 Speaker 2: haven't had on this scale before in New Zealand. Obviously 162 00:08:52,827 --> 00:08:54,587 Speaker 2: there's been one already this season, but in terms of 163 00:08:54,627 --> 00:08:57,547 Speaker 2: having this rivalry, it hasn't been replicated previously. 164 00:08:58,987 --> 00:09:01,627 Speaker 4: No, it hasn't. It is very novel and it's almost 165 00:09:01,707 --> 00:09:04,907 Speaker 4: like a new toy. You know, you get it at Christmas, 166 00:09:04,947 --> 00:09:07,667 Speaker 4: you're not quite sure what you can do it, but 167 00:09:07,747 --> 00:09:09,547 Speaker 4: then you spend the days honing it. Maybe it's like 168 00:09:09,547 --> 00:09:11,427 Speaker 4: a cricket bat elliot and you have to knock it 169 00:09:11,467 --> 00:09:13,427 Speaker 4: in a little bit. And that's what we're doing at 170 00:09:13,427 --> 00:09:15,627 Speaker 4: the moment. We're trying to figure out what this thing is. 171 00:09:15,627 --> 00:09:19,027 Speaker 4: But we know that it represents us as a football community. 172 00:09:19,107 --> 00:09:21,627 Speaker 4: We know that it's exciting, we know that we want 173 00:09:21,667 --> 00:09:23,067 Speaker 4: it to stay, and we know that it's going to 174 00:09:23,067 --> 00:09:27,787 Speaker 4: be valuable on the long term. So we are hearing 175 00:09:27,867 --> 00:09:30,827 Speaker 4: that the fans themselves are trying to figure out how 176 00:09:30,907 --> 00:09:33,747 Speaker 4: they're going to create the noise and make sure that 177 00:09:33,787 --> 00:09:35,907 Speaker 4: they've heard. Obviously, the Port's going to be their number, 178 00:09:35,947 --> 00:09:38,067 Speaker 4: but Yellow Fever will want to be heard as well. 179 00:09:38,107 --> 00:09:40,107 Speaker 4: So they've got t fots, which are the banners that 180 00:09:40,107 --> 00:09:42,507 Speaker 4: they're roll up for the game. There might be some 181 00:09:42,667 --> 00:09:46,427 Speaker 4: smoke flares at some point as well, which obviously aren't 182 00:09:46,467 --> 00:09:48,987 Speaker 4: flares themselves, but that adds to the color as well. 183 00:09:49,027 --> 00:09:51,907 Speaker 4: It adds to that kind of that South American Europeans 184 00:09:52,307 --> 00:09:55,027 Speaker 4: vibe that so many fans want to take but also 185 00:09:55,107 --> 00:09:55,667 Speaker 4: make their own. 186 00:09:56,027 --> 00:09:57,747 Speaker 2: Have we got a name for the starby yet? 187 00:09:58,347 --> 00:10:01,267 Speaker 4: Jacob Oh, you're winding me up on your Elliott because 188 00:10:01,307 --> 00:10:05,067 Speaker 4: you know, you know, you know most feelings, so everybody. 189 00:10:05,227 --> 00:10:08,547 Speaker 4: Last night the producers at Sky decided to go with 190 00:10:08,587 --> 00:10:10,787 Speaker 4: the Kievy Classico, which has been imposed on us by 191 00:10:10,787 --> 00:10:14,827 Speaker 4: the Australians because they didn't quite understand the vibe. So 192 00:10:14,987 --> 00:10:18,347 Speaker 4: I had in my ear laughing Kingsley Hockley as he 193 00:10:18,467 --> 00:10:20,067 Speaker 4: put that up on screen because he knew he was 194 00:10:20,067 --> 00:10:23,427 Speaker 4: going to get a reaction. But I am rejecting the 195 00:10:23,547 --> 00:10:27,347 Speaker 4: Kiwi Classico, as I know Jason Pine does. At the moment, 196 00:10:27,347 --> 00:10:29,467 Speaker 4: I think we've got a placeholder in the India Derby. 197 00:10:29,747 --> 00:10:32,387 Speaker 4: There has been some other suggestions like the Tika Derby, 198 00:10:32,427 --> 00:10:35,907 Speaker 4: so Tika Amali after the North Island. I love that 199 00:10:36,347 --> 00:10:39,267 Speaker 4: type of vibe. But I think what will happen, Elliott, 200 00:10:39,307 --> 00:10:41,987 Speaker 4: is it's going to be a spark point. At some stage, 201 00:10:41,987 --> 00:10:43,747 Speaker 4: there's going to be something that happens. There's going to 202 00:10:43,747 --> 00:10:46,427 Speaker 4: be a reaction and I think that's when the name 203 00:10:46,707 --> 00:10:48,787 Speaker 4: will be established organically. 204 00:10:48,947 --> 00:10:51,627 Speaker 2: We look forward to finding out what that Derby will 205 00:10:51,627 --> 00:10:54,507 Speaker 2: eventually be called. Jacob Spoonley, thank you very much for 206 00:10:54,547 --> 00:10:56,747 Speaker 2: your time. It's been a great chatting with you, and 207 00:10:57,147 --> 00:10:59,667 Speaker 2: next time look, I look forward to the slide next week. 208 00:11:00,027 --> 00:11:03,387 Speaker 2: Either way, whether it's yourself or Jason Pine, who I've nominated, 209 00:11:03,907 --> 00:11:05,027 Speaker 2: I'll look forward to that happening. 210 00:11:06,667 --> 00:11:08,347 Speaker 4: So as long as you get it back to me 211 00:11:08,347 --> 00:11:09,907 Speaker 4: by the end of the day, I'll have to contract 212 00:11:09,907 --> 00:11:12,867 Speaker 4: across to you and I'm sure we can lack Piney. 213 00:11:12,547 --> 00:11:15,347 Speaker 2: End done, Jacob Spoonley, thank you very much for your 214 00:11:15,427 --> 00:11:19,187 Speaker 2: side this afternoon on news Talk ZMB formor allwide. Jacob Spoonley, 215 00:11:19,187 --> 00:11:22,107 Speaker 2: skysport commentator, joining us on the program. 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