1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,519 Speaker 1: Richard Arnold, US correspondent, Morning Richard, Good morning. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 2: Other. 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Do you get the feeling that Trump is busy needling 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Pusian over Syria needling Putin? 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think he's trying to take a 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: hands off approach. At the moment he said that Syria 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: is not America's problem, it's not our fight. It's what 8 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: he has posted on one of his social media pieces today. 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: But these dramatic events are playing out with all kinds 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: of potential repercussions. And then just hours thessad's brutal twenty 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: four regime has left the country in chaos, with a 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: great deal of uncertainty as to what is next. Of course, 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: it ends a dictatorship marked by war crimes, including air 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 2: strikes on civilians and the use of chemical weapons. More 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: than one hundred and thirty thousand people who arrested by 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: a SAD and co and a UN investigation described the 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: detentions as a process of extermination. Circumstances changed, though, with 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: Russia focused on its war in Ukraine and Hassad s 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: Raleian back Lebanese militia has Billa losing some key leader 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: ship figures through recent clashes with Israel as we know. 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: So President Biden is meeting today with his national security 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 2: team to look at the implications, while Trump, as I said, say, 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: is saying his first instinct is hands off. However, there 24 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: are some nine hundred US troops in Syria working with 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: Kurdish allies that try to prevent any resurgence of the 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: Islamic State Group. Former SINGCOME Commander General Frank Mackenzie says 27 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: of this situation. 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: Our troops east of the Euphrates River, prepared with our 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: SDF partners, are there to keep a lid on ISIS 30 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: and prevent violent extremist organizations from gathering strength and being 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: able to attack the home land of the United States. 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 3: ISIS aspires to attack US. As we know, ISIS launch 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 3: a successful attack against Russia just a few months ago. 34 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: That's why those troops are there. So any decision to 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: bring them out would need to weigh that going forward. 36 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 2: So what will Trump do? All this ties in, of course, 37 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: with the Trump team now being drawn together, and especially 38 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: his choice for the top intelligence job, Telsey Gabbard as 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: Director of National Intelligence. He back in twenty seventeen, Gabbard 40 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: made an unannounced trip to Syria to meet with Assad 41 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: and echoed Russian talking points at the time by saying 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 2: he was no threat to the US. So how does 43 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: that selection now stand. Republican Mike Turner, the head of 44 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: the Intelligence Committee in the House, says he has big 45 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 2: concerns about Gabbard. 46 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 4: His His take obviously different a great deal in a 47 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 4: number of areas with both her judgment and her background 48 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 4: and experience, and I think the Senators are going to 49 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 4: put her through process niah. 50 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: So this might add some fuel to the whole situation. Clearly, 51 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: Turner is no fan of Gabbard, whom some have suggested 52 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: might be kind of Russian inside. A meantime, the fall 53 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: of Asad might provide the chance to discover the fate 54 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: of some who are missing. That includes only named Austin Tice, 55 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: a missing American journalists who disappeared in twenty twelve. He 56 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: was freelancing for The Washington Post and other outlets at 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 2: the time. His family still believes he is alive. Over 58 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: the years, Assad denied any knowledge of Austin Tyss as noted, 59 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 2: though he's been missing for a long long time. As 60 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: to what next in Syria unclear, says retired General Mackenzie 61 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 62 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: It's ultimately going to be good news for the people 63 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: of Syria. You know, we could have an Islamic state 64 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: arise there, which will have profound negative implications across the regent. 65 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: That is possible. There are other possibilities. 66 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: As well, So next few hours will show us. 67 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: I guess, and listen to this interview that he's just 68 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: given this as Trump has given to NBC where he 69 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: says he's not going to try and remove the FED chair. 70 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: Is that really a surprise. It feels like that was 71 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: something that everybody else got excited about. 72 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: Well, he had certainly raised the prospect, and they've been 73 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: at odds. So this is one of those campaign cut 74 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: and thrusts that you see along the way. Now Trump 75 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: is saying. 76 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 5: I don't think so. I don't see it, but I don't. 77 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 5: I think I told him too he would, But if 78 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 5: I asked him too, he probably wouldn't be. 79 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: In fact, Power has said he does not think that 80 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: the president has the legal authority to remove him. Power 81 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: is originally chosen by Trump in twenty seventeen sound on 82 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: him when Power refused to speed up the Trump call 83 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: for lower interest rates as the FED worth gearing to 84 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: battle inflation. In the past, Trump has called Palin enemy 85 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: and fed officials boneheads. So nothing new and Trump's hexicon right. 86 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: He says also he wants to work with Democrats on 87 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: finding a solution for the so called dreamers. So we're 88 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: talking about immigration here. These are people brought into this 89 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: country legally by their parents when they were just small children. 90 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 2: This idea of working with the Dems is something we 91 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: haven't heard much of in recent times. While Trump also 92 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 2: has repeated his assertion that he will move to free 93 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: the January the sixth prisoners, those convicted of crimes for 94 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: their actions on the day of the attack on the 95 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: US Capitol, he says, of the situation that they have 96 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: been in, I'm. 97 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 5: Going to be acting very quickly. They've been in there 98 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 5: for years, and they're in a filthy, disgusting place that 99 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 5: shouldn't even be allowed to be open. 100 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: He says also he has no plans to direct any 101 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: special or investigator towards the current president Biden, but he 102 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: remains somewhat vague about any enemy's list. 103 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 5: I'm not doing that unless they find something that I 104 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 5: think is reasonable. But that's not going to be my decision. 105 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 5: That's going to be Pambondi's decision and to a different extent, 106 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 5: Cash Pattel. Assuming they're both there, and I think they're 107 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 5: both going to get approved. 108 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: So Trump the master of deniability. As always. 109 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks very much, Richard appreciated. It's Richard Donold, US correspondent. 110 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 111 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 112 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio