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Speaker 1: Together due to see Ellen. Jamie McKay, Host of the

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Speaker 1: Countries with US Hello Jamie.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Yeah, Well I'm having an informed opinion guest guests

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Speaker 2: about Oncet months to be prime minister. That's my latest theory.

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Speaker 1: And only he can only extract that, Jamie, if he

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Speaker 1: is in the king maker position, because it's quite a

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Speaker 1: ballsy like. No one's done that, right, No one's given

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Speaker 1: the prime ministership to a smaller party. So in order

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Speaker 1: for him to be able to extract that, he has

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Speaker 1: to have absolute leverage. And you only have absolute leverage

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Speaker 1: if you can put in place either label or national.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if he finds himself in that

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Speaker 2: position on election. I will see what happens to that.

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Speaker 1: No, that's fine, I've made that prediction. You've made that prediction.

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Speaker 1: Now we're in this together. Now, what's going on. What's

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Speaker 1: going on with Molesworth?

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Speaker 2: Well, Molesworth is New Zealand's biggest farm. It's owned by

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Speaker 2: the government or overseen by DOC one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: two thousand hectares. That's like an old school money four

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand plus acres, huge farm and wonderful

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Speaker 2: piece of conservation land. A lot of New Zealanders take

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Speaker 2: four wheel drives tours through it. It's absolutely a magnificent country.

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Speaker 2: So the supporters have a proposal of to make New

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Speaker 2: Zealand's biggest farm, Molesworth, a station for the nation. So

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Speaker 2: that means that means former. Sorry, there's just some noise

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Speaker 2: in the background. I've got a rid of it now

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Speaker 2: i can concentrate on the job at hand. Sorry about that,

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Speaker 2: Heather So former Molesworth station manager Jim Ward, whose father

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Speaker 2: Ron has the distinction of playing Test rugby for the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks as a forward and a back. He's spareheading

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Speaker 2: a proposal to run a charitable trust and they're going

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Speaker 2: to run this as a self funding farming operation. And

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Speaker 2: he says interest in the proposal has been growing strongly

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Speaker 2: within both the farming and broader business communities. Now the

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Speaker 2: existing lease between Doc and Palmu are running it at

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Speaker 2: the moment expires on June the thirtieth. We understand that

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Speaker 2: Palmu is not one of the five parties who have

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Speaker 2: made an expression of interest in this, so I'm not

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Speaker 2: quite sure who the other four are. They may be

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Speaker 2: commercial operations, they may be community good or industry good bodies.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what the hell's going on there,

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Speaker 2: but they need to fund this. So they've got seven

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Speaker 2: million dollars worth of livestock on the property, including a

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Speaker 2: herd of three thousand breeding cows. They're like gold at

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Speaker 2: the moment, so they're hoping some wealthy individual may be

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Speaker 2: prompted to contribute to stocking the operation. Jim Ward also

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Speaker 2: has a high profile New Zealander in mind to be

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Speaker 2: patron for Molesworth, and then he's hoping to put some

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Speaker 2: smart minds together on how to formulate a viable commercial

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Speaker 2: model within the not for profit structure. This could include

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Speaker 2: freeing up funds currently committed through rates to things like

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Speaker 2: road maintenance, something The station also pays itself to keep

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Speaker 2: it sixty five kilometers of road open the public six

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Speaker 2: months a year. So Doc expects to announce a preferred

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Speaker 2: operator at the end of the end of May. I

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Speaker 2: really hope it's Jim Ward, former manager who had a

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Speaker 2: bit of a perhaps unpleasant or unsavory parting of the

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Speaker 2: ways with PAMU. Hopefully he can stitch this together and

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Speaker 2: we can have Heather a station for the nation.

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Speaker 1: Now, how do you play as a forward and a

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Speaker 1: back for the All Blacks.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was. He's a Southlander. He played pre war,

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Speaker 2: so he played I think in nineteen thirty seven, and

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Speaker 2: he played in those days of course there were no

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Speaker 2: injury replacements. So he was a loose forward, a very

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Speaker 2: very good one, a very gnarly, gnarly bloke. He used

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Speaker 2: to terrorize us on the sideline of the Firse fifteen

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Speaker 2: at Saint Peter's College and God, Jim Ward and I

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Speaker 2: were in that team and he didn't like me because

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Speaker 2: I was around the corner kicker. He only liked toe hackers.

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Speaker 2: But an answer to your question, Heather, long winded answer,

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Speaker 2: there was an injury. He was a loose forward. They

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Speaker 2: had no one else. They shoved him out on the

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Speaker 2: wing and he played very well out there as well.

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Speaker 2: So one of the few All Blacks to have played

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Speaker 2: Test match rugby as a forward in a back, and

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Speaker 2: he was a tough old bugger. I'm sure Jim wouldn't

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Speaker 2: mind me saying that.

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Speaker 1: That's impressive, man. Hey, Jamie, thank you as always, always

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Speaker 1: a nugget of gold in there somewhere with you. Jamie McKay,

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Speaker 1: Host of the Country.

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