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Speaker 1: on your home of Sport News Talks ed B.

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Speaker 2: Hello Kiota, good afternoon and welcome into the Sunday edition

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Speaker 2: of Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB, September twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: Hope you're not too bleary eyed after one lass our sleep.

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Speaker 3: Fin's Mackenzie checks it over the touch line the Capital

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Speaker 3: Paersens and the All Blacks when Sampagne's one hundred is

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Speaker 3: final on home soil.

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Speaker 2: TJ.

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Speaker 3: Penin Ora's final on home soil thirty three thirteen over

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Speaker 3: the Wallabies at sky Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Ever, Griff of All Blacks and Wellington last night, breaking

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Speaker 2: the run of five winless outings at sky Stadium, All

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Speaker 2: Black's assistant coach Scott Hansen standing by the chat with us.

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Speaker 2: We'll hear the parting thoughts or the thoughts of a

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Speaker 2: couple of deeparties Sam Kine, TJ. Pettenada. They may well

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Speaker 2: still feature in the end of year tour of course,

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Speaker 2: but on home soil. That is it for those two

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Speaker 2: the morning after thoughts of Scott Robertson as well. He

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Speaker 2: in the last hour or so has addressed media at

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Speaker 2: the team's downtown Wellington hotel. But it's your reaction. I'm

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Speaker 2: really keen to heir lines open immediately and across the

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Speaker 2: afternoon for you to summarize last night and if we

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Speaker 2: zoom out of it, your appraisal of the first nine

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Speaker 2: test matches of the year, six wins, three losses for

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Speaker 2: the AB's what's your assessment of where they are as

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Speaker 2: they take away break now before the end of year tour.

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Speaker 2: Lots of other things around today to chat as well.

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Speaker 2: Confirmation Friday that kee we driver Liam Lawson will replace

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Speaker 2: Daniel Ricardo at the Racing Balls Formula One team for

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Speaker 2: the rest of this year. Going to drill down into

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Speaker 2: that with Eric Thompson. After one o'clock, the Silver Ferns

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Speaker 2: opened the three game Tiny Jamison Trophy series against England

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Speaker 2: tonight at Trust's Arena. Defender Kelly Jackson ahead of that

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Speaker 2: after two, the break is up and running in the

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Speaker 2: new Australian National Basketball League season. They've got a game

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Speaker 2: tonight at Spark Arena against the South East Melbourne Phoenix

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Speaker 2: guard Mitch mccaron with us ahead of that. The Black

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Speaker 2: Ferns open their WXV one program three o'clock tomorrow afternoon

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Speaker 2: in Vancouver against Ireland assistant coach Mike Delaney. On that

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Speaker 2: and Race three of the America's Cup Challenger series between

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Speaker 2: Innye Ospretannia and Luna Rossa timed out overnight in light wins,

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Speaker 2: but it was a very interesting day on the water.

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Speaker 2: They got quite a bit of racing done and it

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Speaker 2: Race and America's Cup commentator Christille out of Barcelona two

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Speaker 2: and James mcconey with his regular Sunday offering so lots

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Speaker 2: to get through live sport as well to keep an

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Speaker 2: eye on. This afternoon. The penultate round of the Bunnings

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Speaker 2: ENDPC North Harbor Canterbury Albany five past two Harbor, needing

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Speaker 2: Wakeutta at the same time Number Cargol. The Stags cannot

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Speaker 2: make the quarters, but a win for Whitecattle would consolidate

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Speaker 2: their place in the top eight and opening weekend, and

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Speaker 2: Football's National League for men and women will keep eyes

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Speaker 2: on this afternoons games as well. Your calls and correspondents

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Speaker 1: Day analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting

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Speaker 3: Through the line, through the nice past minute, crown over

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the first of five tries for the All Blacks

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Speaker 2: last night thirty three thirteen winners over the Wallabies or

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Speaker 2: Blacks Assistant coach Scott Hansen is with us. Good afternoon, Scott.

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Speaker 2: What pleased you most about last night?

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Speaker 5: The last number of weeks, We've had some really good

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Speaker 5: Thing for us is probably how we controlled the territory

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Speaker 5: Keep it will be as the group sitting down and

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Speaker 5: So what does that look like in our game? It's

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Speaker 5: We saw last night and moments there where we held

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Speaker 2: Is starting first five in this team still a live

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Speaker 6: It should be.

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Speaker 5: It should be because when you begin all that team

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Speaker 5: really happy with where dmax at Body came in last night,

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Speaker 2: They're both quite different players, aren't they, Scott. Can they

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Speaker 5: Well, the beauty there is make that they've got there. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: But I thought body coming on last night and for

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Speaker 5: He's looking really good.

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Speaker 6: He's coming.

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Speaker 5: He's in a really good spot. He needs putty. He's

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Speaker 5: no rush. We'll do what's best what we feel for

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Speaker 2: So he've been carrying three half backs during the Rugby Championship.

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Speaker 2: Cam makes four. How are you going to decide which

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Speaker 5: a fantastic job around just being in an All Black environment.

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Speaker 5: He's learned what an all that test week looks like.

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Speaker 5: He's contributed really well. And now we look at the

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Speaker 2: I saw you share a nice little moment post match

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Speaker 2: preparing to get his presentation for one hundred tests. What

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Speaker 2: I bet congrats on the win. Scott. Thanks for your

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Speaker 2: No good to talk to you too, Scott. Thanks indeed.

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Speaker 2: Scott Hanson, assistant coach of the All Blacks, love your

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Speaker 2: thoughts now opening the lines. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: last night good all round showing despite that slightly mysterious

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Speaker 2: there be many more nights like that? Winks for twelve

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Speaker 8: Well, Piney, I'll never forget this test because Friday night

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Speaker 2: Again and.

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Speaker 8: Seriously, but you know, I never usually remember my dreams

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Speaker 2: At the end of the game, tell us, I wonder

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Speaker 8: I know, but see I'm not a sports better. But

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Speaker 2: Tell us if you the next time you have a

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Speaker 2: You can tell us text my well done and good

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Speaker 2: maybe your dreams are what we need to follow from

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Speaker 2: now on Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty spere line,

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Speaker 2: your calls right after this on the All Blacks the.

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Speaker 3: It'd be two point five for Bota Barrett putting through

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Speaker 3: that line. Well, John Johnna's away bad again.

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Speaker 2: Torse the time, well Jordan twelve twenty eight as it

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Speaker 2: too soon, says this text to say Wallacer Titi is

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Speaker 2: He might have all had one more World Cup, definitely,

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Speaker 2: I doubt I'll have another after that, so yeah, could

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Speaker 2: well be. And from this text to here, the debate

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Speaker 2: your framing of this. That's not how I remember it

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Speaker 2: of it. Out get a Chris.

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Speaker 10: So the fact we lost two tests within seven points

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Speaker 10: Next year they're going to come to New Zealand play

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Speaker 2: Nice one, Chris, Yep, I am too, And people are

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Speaker 2: You've only beaten the number ten side in the world.

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Speaker 2: They're saying, you can only play what's in front of you.

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Speaker 6: You can only play.

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Speaker 2: It's not up to the All Blacks to decide. You

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Speaker 2: can tell you the All Blacks are back. Let's be

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Speaker 2: I don't think I ever seen the All Blacks are back.

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Speaker 2: there are absolut we work on here, but I think

436
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Speaker 2: it was promising. It was reassuring. You could see the

437
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Speaker 2: raw materials, you could see what they were trying to do,

438
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Speaker 2: and individually, I think there were, as I said before,

439
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Speaker 2: and other performances which really encouraged me. Dean continues, Wellington

440
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Speaker 2: was buzzing because you had WOW in town. Okay, Dean, Well,

441
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that the thirty five thousand at the

442
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Speaker 2: stadium last night were also at WAU around the town. Yes,

443
00:22:36,667 --> 00:22:39,627
Speaker 2: there were certainly more people around, more of the WOW crowd,

444
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Speaker 2: But even Sam Kine and TJ Petinata said afterwards the

445
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Speaker 2: support and encouragement they felt in ground last night was

446
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Speaker 2: something very different, particularly from Sam Kaine. TJ has had

447
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Speaker 2: a lot of games there, particularly from Sam Kane. He said,

448
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Speaker 2: it was very different from some of the other games

449
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Speaker 2: they've played there. So look, I would prefer, I think,

450
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Speaker 2: to put a positive lens on this. That's okay. I

451
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Speaker 2: understand why people might want to downplay a win over

452
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Speaker 2: a team that's down on its luck a little bit.

453
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Speaker 2: I'd prefer to focus on some of the positives from

454
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Speaker 2: the performance last night, But then that's just me. Hello grunt.

455
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Speaker 11: Yeah finally. Now, first off, I'm going to do something

456
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Speaker 11: I've never ever done before, and that is praise the

457
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Speaker 11: overall quality of refereeing, not just in all Black games,

458
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Speaker 11: but in games involving other teams. I thought that overall

459
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Speaker 11: it was the best refereeing performances for years.

460
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Speaker 12: What do you reckon?

461
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Speaker 2: I thought he was good. I thought his communication was

462
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Speaker 2: very good. There were a couple of puzzling decisions, I

463
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Speaker 2: think for both sides and both captains Harry Wilson and

464
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Speaker 2: Scott Barrow. I mean, there was a lot of dialogue,

465
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Speaker 2: but I thought he explained his decisions really well. On

466
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Speaker 2: our radio call last night, Ross Bond, who's a pretty

467
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Speaker 2: tough task master when it comes to referee, set it

468
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Speaker 2: with one of the best dcene.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and in other games between other teams, like I

470
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Speaker 11: said that, you know, overall again, yeah you have the

471
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Speaker 11: odd old mistake and that sort of thing. But generally,

472
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Speaker 11: I guess made the head look at last year's performances

473
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Speaker 11: and said, are the referees, yes, we can do we

474
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Speaker 11: can do better. And as for the half empty glass

475
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Speaker 11: of people, I mean, we're not saying the All Blacks

476
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Speaker 11: are perfect, but to my mind, well the Aussies especially,

477
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Speaker 11: I mean, it was the best adia minute performance that

478
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Speaker 11: they've done, and it was the best Stadia minute performance

479
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Speaker 11: so far. That the All Blacks done. Obviously they can

480
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Speaker 11: get better, but you know that defense and the last

481
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Speaker 11: twenty minutes, it was just fantastic. And so far I

482
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Speaker 11: will nominate my player of the Year Knew will too,

483
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Speaker 11: actually newcomer Wallace the Tit who else, and to my

484
00:24:51,027 --> 00:24:54,547
Speaker 11: mind play the year so far the old timer Cody Taylor,

485
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Speaker 11: who was in the form of his life.

486
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Speaker 2: Oh, Grant, I can't argue with either of those. Cody

487
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Speaker 2: Taylor exceptional again last night and has been your right

488
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Speaker 2: across the entire season. He's now what's Summerstony Talkia were

489
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Speaker 2: not there and just on him. By the way, Scott

490
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Speaker 2: Robertson said today that Somemerstony Takaho won't go on the

491
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Speaker 2: interview tour. He's targeting Super Rugby next year for his return.

492
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Speaker 2: So Cody Taylor has had to shoulder a much bigger

493
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Speaker 2: load with less experienced tookers a Sapphire and George Bell.

494
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Speaker 2: He has been terrific. Cody Taylor absolutely magnificent. I agree

495
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Speaker 2: with both of those, Grant, Jeff.

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Speaker 13: I mate, yeah, mate. The first thing I'd like to

497
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Speaker 13: say is a congratulations to the All Bracks for that

498
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Speaker 13: fantastic one, especially why they all played the only thing

499
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Speaker 13: I sort of in my heart because of watch so

500
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Speaker 13: many games of rugby for the All Blacks, Domi and McKenzie. Now,

501
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Speaker 13: I sort of felt that putting him on the bench

502
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Speaker 13: was not a very very fed to this guy. He's

503
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Speaker 13: dedicated and he's fast, and he's worth he you know,

504
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Speaker 13: I just don't think I just cannot agree with him

505
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Speaker 13: being stuck on the bench. And he only came out

506
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Speaker 13: for a few minutes last night. But that's not my decision, Jeff.

507
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Speaker 2: Where would you play him? Where would you plan? Would

508
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Speaker 2: you are you saying you would play him at first

509
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Speaker 2: five as he has been or would you be starting

510
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Speaker 2: him at fullback? Where would you play them?

511
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Speaker 13: Well, if we didn't want him as half back in

512
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Speaker 13: the kicker, well at least put him somewhere in the team.

513
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Speaker 13: And he and as far as I'm concerned, really he

514
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Speaker 13: should have been on that field straight away, all.

515
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Speaker 2: Right, Jeff. Yeah, Look, I think he's We had a

516
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Speaker 2: good chet about Tmak yesterday and I think we all

517
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Speaker 2: agreed that he hasn't quite cemented that spot. I thought

518
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Speaker 2: he was good off the bench last night. I thought

519
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Speaker 2: he came on added a bit of spark and at

520
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Speaker 2: first receiver Will Jordan went out to the wing, Buddy

521
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Speaker 2: went back to full back. That you know, we talk

522
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Speaker 2: about it being an eighty minute game in a twenty

523
00:27:08,867 --> 00:27:10,947
Speaker 2: three to man game, that may well be his role

524
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Speaker 2: to play for the moment, coming off the bench, adding

525
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Speaker 2: spark as we know he can do, finding little gaps

526
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Speaker 2: and running it tied defenders. I thought he had a

527
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Speaker 2: good game last night when he came off the bench

528
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Speaker 2: Damien mackenzie, and I didn't think he had to play

529
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Speaker 2: the full eighty minutes to do it. Thanks Jeff, appreciate it, Hi, Maris.

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Speaker 14: Yeah it ain't mate, Yeah, okay. I had a good

531
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Speaker 14: look at that game and I'll watched it again this morning,

532
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Speaker 14: and I think that's probably one of the better games

533
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Speaker 14: I've played for a few years, and since the Clarity round,

534
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Speaker 14: what individuals did in their roles, and I thought Boden

535
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Speaker 14: Barrett at Keenan was It wasn't a master class, but

536
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Speaker 14: it was probably the best solid performance I've had in

537
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Speaker 14: that position where we've done things consistently. They made a

538
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Speaker 14: few mistakes in Rugby's eighty minute game. We can't be perfect,

539
00:27:52,027 --> 00:27:53,867
Speaker 14: and we don't know we have Dan Carter Rollingen, but

540
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Speaker 14: I just want to I think a big ups has

541
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Speaker 14: to go to Wayne Smith. And I think with the

542
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Speaker 14: way Barrett played, will be a flecchord of Wayne Smith,

543
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Speaker 14: because I don't think Barrett's played at the keen position

544
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Speaker 14: starting since Smith was part of the trucking stuff. And

545
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Speaker 14: I think another big thing is that what people don't

546
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Speaker 14: think will realize is that when they got rid of

547
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Speaker 14: the last coaching staff, it's.

548
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Speaker 6: A whole new thing.

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Speaker 14: You Jason Ryan was in there for a small period

550
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Speaker 14: of time, but it's a whole new thing. The team

551
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Speaker 14: is very much similar to what it was and you

552
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Speaker 14: will got to learn and it's not a Crusader's nominated

553
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Speaker 14: side to understand Robinson and so I think it's always

554
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Speaker 14: going to take time to pig down and that's what

555
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Speaker 14: we're forgetting. And I think Wayne Smith is involved and

556
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Speaker 14: we look at how they played the last half dozen games,

557
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Speaker 14: has had a bigger pet and I think that's a

558
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Speaker 14: good thing going forward because the coaching staff will learned

559
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Speaker 14: from him and so will everyone else.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I mean whenever he's in the camp. Morris. I

561
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Speaker 2: think the camps improved by the Professor Wayne Smith. I

562
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Speaker 2: thought by them Barrett was assured last night, didn't try

563
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Speaker 2: to do anything too flashy. Some of us kicks I thought,

564
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Speaker 2: oh what's she doing there? But you know, a couple

565
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Speaker 2: little pop kicks over the top and he obviously saw

566
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Speaker 2: some space there. Will Jordan almost launched onto one, which

567
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Speaker 2: would have been spectacular. I just thought Buddy was assured

568
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Speaker 2: last night. Kicked his goals. I think he missed one

569
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Speaker 2: out of five, just a steady hand at first five.

570
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Speaker 2: And as I say, when Damian McKenzie came on, he

571
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Speaker 2: went back to fall back. Will Jordan out to the wing.

572
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Speaker 2: I think Will Jordan is the fallback moving forward. I

573
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Speaker 2: mean that's not a bold claim, I know when you're

574
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Speaker 2: seeing the way he's played the last three weeks. Remember,

575
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Speaker 2: of course he wasn't supposed to play there in Sydney.

576
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Speaker 2: It's only when body pulled out late with illness that

577
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Speaker 2: Jordan went back to fall back. But that's three straight

578
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Speaker 2: games in the fifteen Jersey, now Cape Town, Sydney and

579
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Speaker 2: last night. And not that he needs to grow into

580
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Speaker 2: the position itself, because he's been doing that with the

581
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Speaker 2: Crusaders for a long time. But as an All Black fifteen,

582
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Speaker 2: he's now I think becoming the player we hoped he would. Again,

583
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Speaker 2: it's early days. Again I reiterate, I'm not getting ahead

584
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Speaker 2: of myself. I'm not calling us World Cup, you know,

585
00:29:57,347 --> 00:30:01,147
Speaker 2: winners and waiting. It's twenty twenty four for starters. But

586
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Speaker 2: if you're looking for green shoots, and if you're looking

587
00:30:03,267 --> 00:30:06,667
Speaker 2: for areas of promise and you're looking for progress and growth,

588
00:30:06,987 --> 00:30:09,467
Speaker 2: I think you are seeing it. And Scott Robertson's All

589
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Speaker 2: Blacks twenty one to one speed line. If you want

590
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Speaker 2: to jump aboard a couple of calls there, we'll get

591
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Speaker 2: to in just a moment. Oh eight hundred and eighty

592
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Speaker 2: ten eighty back talking All Blacks again after this on Weekend.

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Speaker 1: Sport, the big issues on and after fields call. Oh

594
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Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty Weekends forward with Jason.

595
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Speaker 4: Pain and GJ.

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Speaker 1: Gunnerhomes New Zealand's first trusted home builder, News talks at Baby.

597
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Speaker 3: Now for Anton lend Bill Blacks kind of pipe on

598
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Speaker 3: half time.

599
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Speaker 15: Bill Blacks get the reward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one just before halftime which stretched them

601
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Speaker 2: out to a seven point advantage. I think it wasn't

602
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Speaker 2: halftime or thereabouts. Twelve forty three from Josh Cam roy

603
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Speaker 2: Guard shout out. Took the time to chat to my

604
00:30:52,467 --> 00:30:55,547
Speaker 2: kid last night after the game made as night Todd Bloke, Josh,

605
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Speaker 2: you're right and that doesn't surprise me at all. Thanks

606
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Speaker 2: for holding Jason.

607
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Speaker 6: Oh, it's all right mate. Hey listen just as well.

608
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Speaker 16: We're all got you know, we all see things from

609
00:31:03,587 --> 00:31:06,267
Speaker 16: different perspective. I thought it was a massive opportunity lost.

610
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Speaker 16: And what I mean by that is that some of

611
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Speaker 16: the talk before you came on yesterday was all around

612
00:31:12,947 --> 00:31:15,107
Speaker 16: it was. It was the first signs that we saw

613
00:31:16,307 --> 00:31:19,147
Speaker 16: raisor panicking in terms of his record. If you look

614
00:31:19,147 --> 00:31:22,547
Speaker 16: at it before as all black coaching start career started,

615
00:31:22,667 --> 00:31:25,187
Speaker 16: he had no all. His record was exemplary.

616
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Speaker 17: Lost nothing.

617
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Speaker 16: Last night was a dead rubber. There was nothing to

618
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Speaker 16: win on the Rugby Championship. The Betislow was locked away

619
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Speaker 16: for another year. Why not answer the d D mack

620
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Speaker 16: once and for all, give him the four eighty minutes?

621
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Speaker 16: Why would just start him? Not start him and give

622
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Speaker 16: him nine minutes? It proved nothing.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he was trying to prove it. I

624
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Speaker 2: don't think he was trying to prove anything with Damien

625
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Speaker 2: McKenzie last night, Jase he's had seven test matches, He's

626
00:31:49,107 --> 00:31:52,507
Speaker 2: given them a staff for seven test matches. He gave

627
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Speaker 2: another blocker guy, another bloker go last night and Botim Barrett,

628
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Speaker 2: I don't think there was anything to prove around Damien

629
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Speaker 2: McKenzie last night.

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Speaker 16: Well, it's been the big argument, the big you know,

631
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Speaker 16: is he up to test ball football? You know, is

632
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Speaker 16: he up to the hot test.

633
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Speaker 5: Arena or not?

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Speaker 16: And we'd have to say for the starting time that

635
00:32:11,307 --> 00:32:15,147
Speaker 16: he's played this season, the jury was out. So again

636
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Speaker 16: my point is that it was a dead rubber. Bleslow

637
00:32:18,267 --> 00:32:22,867
Speaker 16: was locked away. We couldn't win the rugby championship. He

638
00:32:22,907 --> 00:32:25,147
Speaker 16: couldn't do anything in nine ten minutes. So for me,

639
00:32:25,307 --> 00:32:28,027
Speaker 16: that was a first sign of Razor panicking with his record.

640
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Speaker 16: You know, if he had lost that last night, let's

641
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Speaker 16: be honest, the knives would be out for him in

642
00:32:32,067 --> 00:32:33,347
Speaker 16: more than one way.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, they didn't lose. They didn't lose last night,

644
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Speaker 2: and I didn't think they ever looked like they would. Yeah,

645
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Speaker 2: well well I mean, but I mean just you just

646
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Speaker 2: said if they had lost last night, the knives would

647
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Speaker 2: have been out. Well, it never felt last night las

648
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Speaker 2: last night like they were going to lose that Test match.

649
00:32:50,947 --> 00:32:52,867
Speaker 2: I think bringing Damien McKenzie off the bench with ten

650
00:32:52,907 --> 00:32:55,427
Speaker 2: minutes to go was probably a look ahead to say, okay, well,

651
00:32:55,627 --> 00:32:57,707
Speaker 2: in a scenario where he does come off the bench

652
00:32:57,747 --> 00:33:00,187
Speaker 2: in an impact role which many people myself included to

653
00:33:00,227 --> 00:33:02,267
Speaker 2: think is his best position right now, how will he go?

654
00:33:02,427 --> 00:33:04,467
Speaker 2: He made a couple of little half breaks. He ran

655
00:33:04,507 --> 00:33:06,227
Speaker 2: it a couple of tired defenders. I think he did

656
00:33:06,347 --> 00:33:08,107
Speaker 2: what you want from an unpact player off the bench.

657
00:33:08,427 --> 00:33:10,307
Speaker 2: You shuffle things at the back, well, Jordan goes out

658
00:33:10,347 --> 00:33:12,507
Speaker 2: to the wing, body goes back to fullback. You know,

659
00:33:12,667 --> 00:33:16,627
Speaker 2: it's not it's not a wasted exercise. It's something which

660
00:33:16,667 --> 00:33:18,267
Speaker 2: may well happen again on the end of your tour.

661
00:33:19,387 --> 00:33:19,587
Speaker 12: Yeah.

662
00:33:19,587 --> 00:33:22,187
Speaker 16: Again, it's an awful Aussie side. That's my whole point,

663
00:33:22,227 --> 00:33:24,627
Speaker 16: you know. But look, look, let's park that one one side.

664
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Speaker 16: There's a couple of really good ones. Last night the

665
00:33:26,667 --> 00:33:31,707
Speaker 16: reassurgence of Caleb Clark, massive tick. Cody Taylor match of

666
00:33:31,787 --> 00:33:36,507
Speaker 16: his match of age is brilliant tick. There was You know,

667
00:33:36,627 --> 00:33:38,707
Speaker 16: I don't like to be misteregative, but I just thought

668
00:33:38,787 --> 00:33:41,067
Speaker 16: it was a sign of Raiser really really looking at

669
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Speaker 16: his record, which which you can't blame them for doing

670
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Speaker 16: But you know, I saw that game as a bit

671
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Speaker 16: of a I don't know. I just was a bit

672
00:33:48,267 --> 00:33:49,627
Speaker 16: bored with it, to be honest. I thought it was

673
00:33:49,667 --> 00:33:52,227
Speaker 16: a bit ping pongy. But you know we've got the win,

674
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Speaker 16: all right.

675
00:33:54,187 --> 00:33:57,107
Speaker 2: Jason, Yeah, I saw it differently. But as you've said,

676
00:33:57,947 --> 00:34:00,627
Speaker 2: it's all about opinion, isn't it. The show exists on

677
00:34:00,707 --> 00:34:01,307
Speaker 2: that sort of thing.

678
00:34:01,507 --> 00:34:01,707
Speaker 9: Yeah.

679
00:34:01,707 --> 00:34:03,707
Speaker 2: I prefer to look at it through a positive lens,

680
00:34:03,747 --> 00:34:06,147
Speaker 2: but I understand that there are other people who, you know,

681
00:34:06,387 --> 00:34:14,787
Speaker 2: who weren't entirely enamored with all they saw. Lyle Hi, Mate, Hello, Lyle, No,

682
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Speaker 2: not there. Let's go to Brent Hi, Brent.

683
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Speaker 17: Good a finding how you're doing.

684
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Speaker 9: Good?

685
00:34:19,507 --> 00:34:20,147
Speaker 2: Thanks, Brent Good.

686
00:34:21,587 --> 00:34:23,267
Speaker 17: It's totald you a couple of weeks ago to a

687
00:34:23,307 --> 00:34:25,507
Speaker 17: simple game. Just hang on to the bloody ball.

688
00:34:27,947 --> 00:34:29,787
Speaker 2: I remember, yes, I remember this.

689
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Speaker 17: Never a lot of trouble getting points if they haven't

690
00:34:32,187 --> 00:34:32,587
Speaker 17: got the ball.

691
00:34:32,667 --> 00:34:32,867
Speaker 6: Eh.

692
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Speaker 17: Anyway, So the end of tour and the year tour,

693
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Speaker 17: when does that third?

694
00:34:40,387 --> 00:34:42,507
Speaker 2: The first Test match against Japan is on the twenty

695
00:34:42,627 --> 00:34:48,347
Speaker 2: sixth of October, and then the following four weekends England, Ireland, France,

696
00:34:48,427 --> 00:34:52,347
Speaker 2: and Italy third ninth, seventeenth and twenty fourth of November.

697
00:34:53,747 --> 00:34:58,547
Speaker 17: So the abs that they get released back to their provinces, now.

698
00:34:58,827 --> 00:35:01,547
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do some well, some will the ones who

699
00:35:01,587 --> 00:35:04,467
Speaker 2: haven't had a lot of game minutes. Brent will Be

700
00:35:04,667 --> 00:35:06,507
Speaker 2: will be released back. I think you'll see guy it's

701
00:35:06,587 --> 00:35:08,947
Speaker 2: like Will cam Roy Guard where he's obviously hasn't played

702
00:35:08,987 --> 00:35:10,667
Speaker 2: it all this year. But guys who haven't had a

703
00:35:10,707 --> 00:35:11,907
Speaker 2: lot of rugby, and I look at a guy like

704
00:35:11,947 --> 00:35:14,547
Speaker 2: dont and Papaleiti for example, who hasn't been involved for

705
00:35:14,587 --> 00:35:17,867
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks. Noah Hotham will get released back.

706
00:35:17,947 --> 00:35:20,827
Speaker 2: David HARVILLI, Billy Proctor will probably play a couple of

707
00:35:20,867 --> 00:35:25,667
Speaker 2: games for Wellington, Passili or TOSSI. Guys like that, Guys

708
00:35:25,707 --> 00:35:28,507
Speaker 2: who have had less rugby summer. Penny Female another one

709
00:35:28,787 --> 00:35:30,707
Speaker 2: that they'll get released back and will probably play for

710
00:35:30,747 --> 00:35:33,227
Speaker 2: their provinces. Others I think the ones who you know

711
00:35:33,467 --> 00:35:35,147
Speaker 2: had quite a big body of work during the Rugby

712
00:35:35,227 --> 00:35:38,067
Speaker 2: Championship will have a rest. Now the team, the team

713
00:35:38,107 --> 00:35:39,867
Speaker 2: for the India to incidentally mate, is named on the

714
00:35:39,947 --> 00:35:43,987
Speaker 2: seventh of October. That's the that is I think Monday.

715
00:35:44,427 --> 00:35:47,067
Speaker 2: I think it's tomorrow week. Yeah, tomorrow week, the end

716
00:35:47,107 --> 00:35:49,547
Speaker 2: of year tour squad will be named thirty six players

717
00:35:49,587 --> 00:35:49,987
Speaker 2: on that tour.

718
00:35:51,427 --> 00:35:57,667
Speaker 17: So as a theory, people talking about how good Taylor's playing,

719
00:35:58,627 --> 00:36:00,707
Speaker 17: there's a lot of a lot of the players that

720
00:36:00,827 --> 00:36:03,947
Speaker 17: seem to be peaking or playing quite well at the

721
00:36:04,027 --> 00:36:07,467
Speaker 17: moment are ones that have had injuries, or have had

722
00:36:07,947 --> 00:36:10,907
Speaker 17: sabbaticals and that sort of thing. They've had a fair

723
00:36:10,987 --> 00:36:11,667
Speaker 17: bit of time off.

724
00:36:12,507 --> 00:36:14,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, Taylor did, didn't He He didn't play a lot

725
00:36:14,907 --> 00:36:16,507
Speaker 2: for the Crusaders. He came back and sort of late

726
00:36:16,547 --> 00:36:19,107
Speaker 2: in the piece, didn't. Now, I forgotten that there's.

727
00:36:19,027 --> 00:36:21,747
Speaker 17: Quite a few of them that have had various injuries

728
00:36:21,827 --> 00:36:26,187
Speaker 17: on and off during the season that it just did

729
00:36:26,227 --> 00:36:29,787
Speaker 17: it prove that they take too much, we won't get

730
00:36:29,827 --> 00:36:30,107
Speaker 17: a game.

731
00:36:30,507 --> 00:36:34,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brent, it's not. It's not an illogical thought, man. Yeah,

732
00:36:35,147 --> 00:36:38,227
Speaker 2: you're right about Cody Taylor. He was just going to

733
00:36:38,307 --> 00:36:41,227
Speaker 2: check the stature. But yeah, from memory, he came back

734
00:36:41,307 --> 00:36:42,947
Speaker 2: and really late in the piece. I think the first

735
00:36:42,987 --> 00:36:47,627
Speaker 2: game he started was see one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.

736
00:36:48,947 --> 00:36:51,387
Speaker 2: The eleventh game the Crusaders played, he missed the first,

737
00:36:51,987 --> 00:36:54,307
Speaker 2: he missed the first ten, didn't play at all in

738
00:36:54,387 --> 00:36:56,707
Speaker 2: the first ten games for the Crusaders. Came back in

739
00:36:56,827 --> 00:36:58,547
Speaker 2: for the back end of the season, which I'm sure

740
00:36:58,627 --> 00:37:03,307
Speaker 2: he thought would include playoffs but didn't. Unfortunately. It's a good,

741
00:37:03,507 --> 00:37:05,627
Speaker 2: good thought, Brent. Yeah, maybe as fresh as a daisy.

742
00:37:05,707 --> 00:37:08,227
Speaker 2: You certainly play like it good to check mate, high Lyle.

743
00:37:09,507 --> 00:37:10,227
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know mate.

744
00:37:10,867 --> 00:37:13,747
Speaker 12: As for dead rubbers, I didn't think they existed in

745
00:37:14,667 --> 00:37:17,067
Speaker 12: its Cup matches as sure as hell didn't look dead

746
00:37:17,107 --> 00:37:19,387
Speaker 12: to the Australian side. I went the end of a

747
00:37:19,507 --> 00:37:22,947
Speaker 12: tab here on the gold Coase and are paying nine

748
00:37:23,067 --> 00:37:25,507
Speaker 12: dollars head to head for twenty two bucks and I'm

749
00:37:25,507 --> 00:37:29,547
Speaker 12: obviously electing the Bulls playing fifty one. So it was

750
00:37:29,587 --> 00:37:32,747
Speaker 12: a bloody good test match, probably a little bit closer

751
00:37:32,867 --> 00:37:36,427
Speaker 12: with the School Indicase, but considering Australia, we couldn't get

752
00:37:36,467 --> 00:37:39,507
Speaker 12: out of pool play at large as World Cup. Yeah,

753
00:37:39,547 --> 00:37:42,187
Speaker 12: that ki We coach was got us on the right tracks.

754
00:37:42,307 --> 00:37:46,027
Speaker 12: So I think, with all due respect, a lot of

755
00:37:46,107 --> 00:37:51,307
Speaker 12: the Kiwi fans just don't realize that mcgore carter for

756
00:37:51,427 --> 00:37:54,547
Speaker 12: Parmow and Assassin's Colins and none who are no longer

757
00:37:54,627 --> 00:37:56,827
Speaker 12: there and the other countries are just getting closer and

758
00:37:57,147 --> 00:37:59,627
Speaker 12: you haven't got the debt for you once dead, you know,

759
00:38:00,467 --> 00:38:04,587
Speaker 12: when flogging everyone for years and you know, it's the

760
00:38:04,707 --> 00:38:07,347
Speaker 12: same as a lot of rugular league saying tier. You know,

761
00:38:07,747 --> 00:38:09,987
Speaker 12: who would have thought that tollell would one day beat

762
00:38:10,147 --> 00:38:14,187
Speaker 12: Australia in New Zealand have been more than equal and

763
00:38:14,587 --> 00:38:18,547
Speaker 12: test matches and that over the last few years. I

764
00:38:18,707 --> 00:38:21,067
Speaker 12: think a lot of fans on both sides of the

765
00:38:21,187 --> 00:38:23,747
Speaker 12: tests and EVA code probably need to look at it

766
00:38:23,827 --> 00:38:26,827
Speaker 12: and they realized, you know, that the world's a lot

767
00:38:26,947 --> 00:38:28,467
Speaker 12: closer than would have never been.

768
00:38:30,347 --> 00:38:33,347
Speaker 2: Agree long, agree mate, get you back on the line. Yeah,

769
00:38:34,227 --> 00:38:36,947
Speaker 2: Australia might be the tenth best team in the world,

770
00:38:37,227 --> 00:38:39,867
Speaker 2: or ranked tenth in the world at the moment. And

771
00:38:39,947 --> 00:38:41,587
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the rankings, but are you telling me

772
00:38:41,707 --> 00:38:45,427
Speaker 2: that if they ran out against ninth ranked Figi, eighth

773
00:38:45,707 --> 00:38:50,027
Speaker 2: ranked Italy or seventh seventh ranked Scotland, they wouldn't be

774
00:38:50,147 --> 00:38:53,147
Speaker 2: favorites and probably wouldn't win. The rankings only tell some

775
00:38:53,347 --> 00:38:56,227
Speaker 2: of the story. Australia have had a terrible rugby championship,

776
00:38:56,267 --> 00:39:00,667
Speaker 2: that's the reason they've dropped in the rankings. But if

777
00:39:00,707 --> 00:39:03,787
Speaker 2: Australia went out and played Fiji. Look, I know Fiji

778
00:39:04,467 --> 00:39:06,347
Speaker 2: beat them at the Rugby World Cup, las ye didn't.

779
00:39:06,467 --> 00:39:09,827
Speaker 2: But at the moment, after what we saw from Fiji

780
00:39:09,947 --> 00:39:11,547
Speaker 2: when the All Blacks played them earlier in the year,

781
00:39:11,587 --> 00:39:15,467
Speaker 2: would you back Fiji to bit Australia right now? It

782
00:39:15,587 --> 00:39:18,907
Speaker 2: might be, you know, it might not even matter. But

783
00:39:19,547 --> 00:39:22,947
Speaker 2: if you're trying to pull down the All Blacks performances

784
00:39:22,987 --> 00:39:25,627
Speaker 2: by saying it was only against Australia, then you haven't

785
00:39:25,627 --> 00:39:26,947
Speaker 2: watched a heck of a lot of letters like Cup

786
00:39:27,027 --> 00:39:29,907
Speaker 2: rugby for me, because regardless of who is where in

787
00:39:29,947 --> 00:39:33,867
Speaker 2: the rankings, if Australia are tenth second or forty second,

788
00:39:34,547 --> 00:39:37,907
Speaker 2: they always turn up for bitterslow Cup matches last weekend

789
00:39:37,947 --> 00:39:40,787
Speaker 2: and Sydney proved that. Parts of last night proved that.

790
00:39:41,587 --> 00:39:43,547
Speaker 2: And it's not the All Blacks fault that Australia are

791
00:39:43,587 --> 00:39:46,827
Speaker 2: going through some tough times. They can only play what's

792
00:39:46,867 --> 00:39:49,147
Speaker 2: in front of them. Eight to one used talks B.

793
00:39:50,827 --> 00:39:53,427
Speaker 1: The Scoop from the Track Fields and the Court on

794
00:39:53,587 --> 00:39:57,027
Speaker 1: Your Home of sort weekends for It with Jason Vine.

795
00:39:57,267 --> 00:40:00,747
Speaker 2: Used Talks NB five to one Special night for Sam

796
00:40:00,867 --> 00:40:04,147
Speaker 2: Kine last night, Here's one hundredth test. Here is he

797
00:40:04,747 --> 00:40:06,907
Speaker 2: or here he is afterwards, reflecting that a.

798
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Speaker 6: Really enjoyable week.

799
00:40:08,107 --> 00:40:09,667
Speaker 7: Aaron Smith sent me a message at the start of

800
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Speaker 7: the week with a few things that he'd got told

801
00:40:12,467 --> 00:40:14,227
Speaker 7: like leading into his hundredth and one of them was

802
00:40:14,267 --> 00:40:16,827
Speaker 7: that when people talk about it and do stuff, be

803
00:40:17,187 --> 00:40:20,627
Speaker 7: grateful and then appreciate it or rather than obviously sort

804
00:40:20,627 --> 00:40:23,707
Speaker 7: of brushing it off and just trying to stay so focused.

805
00:40:23,347 --> 00:40:23,787
Speaker 6: On the game.

806
00:40:23,947 --> 00:40:28,627
Speaker 7: So I did try and enjoy the moments throughout the week,

807
00:40:28,667 --> 00:40:30,707
Speaker 7: and yeah, look, there was plenty of special ones, mainly

808
00:40:31,507 --> 00:40:34,387
Speaker 7: from teammates and coaches and people who have got like

809
00:40:34,467 --> 00:40:36,747
Speaker 7: a lot of respect for sits. A lot of nice

810
00:40:36,787 --> 00:40:43,787
Speaker 7: words and pretty indescribable buzz running out first teammates and

811
00:40:43,867 --> 00:40:46,627
Speaker 7: down the tunnel and then onto the stadium. I think,

812
00:40:47,227 --> 00:40:50,627
Speaker 7: I think Wellington tonight and throughout even game day in

813
00:40:50,707 --> 00:40:55,067
Speaker 7: and around town the biggest buzz I've fiult around the place.

814
00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:58,667
Speaker 4: Played a few test matches here, So awesome week.

815
00:40:58,867 --> 00:41:00,587
Speaker 6: Just hugely appreciative.

816
00:41:01,667 --> 00:41:04,267
Speaker 7: Of everyone who's who's made it what it is, and

817
00:41:05,027 --> 00:41:08,667
Speaker 7: who's hugely appreciative to everyone who's health along the way.

818
00:41:08,747 --> 00:41:12,667
Speaker 7: Feel very lucky and privileged to now to pull on

819
00:41:12,787 --> 00:41:15,067
Speaker 7: the special jersey one hundred times.

820
00:41:15,107 --> 00:41:16,987
Speaker 2: Neat to see Sam kin get such a good ovation

821
00:41:17,187 --> 00:41:19,467
Speaker 2: last night. I thought they might have made more of

822
00:41:20,347 --> 00:41:23,267
Speaker 2: when he went off and when TJ went off it

823
00:41:23,347 --> 00:41:25,547
Speaker 2: almost kind of happened while other things were going on.

824
00:41:25,627 --> 00:41:26,867
Speaker 2: I thought they might have made a bit more of that.

825
00:41:26,987 --> 00:41:30,347
Speaker 2: But fact remains cool night for both Sam Kaine and

826
00:41:30,427 --> 00:41:33,227
Speaker 2: also for TJ pet and Adam News. Next to one,

827
00:41:33,307 --> 00:41:35,387
Speaker 2: then we'll zoom in on Liam Lawson.

828
00:41:36,907 --> 00:41:39,747
Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

829
00:41:39,907 --> 00:41:41,507
Speaker 1: on and after field.

830
00:41:42,107 --> 00:41:43,107
Speaker 4: It's all on Wee.

831
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Speaker 1: James Ford with Jason Vade on your home of sport

832
00:41:47,987 --> 00:41:50,347
Speaker 1: US Talk one seven.

833
00:41:50,707 --> 00:41:55,707
Speaker 2: Hello, Welcome into weekend Sport. Liam Lawson will race Formula

834
00:41:55,787 --> 00:41:58,587
Speaker 2: one for the rest of this year, replacing Daniel Ricardo

835
00:41:58,627 --> 00:42:02,267
Speaker 2: at the Racing Balls Formula one team. Eric Thompson standing,

836
00:42:02,307 --> 00:42:03,947
Speaker 2: why to chat to us about that? In a sec?

837
00:42:04,067 --> 00:42:07,067
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this too? How big? How big is

838
00:42:07,067 --> 00:42:08,747
Speaker 2: this weekend? Open the lines on the rugby again as well.

839
00:42:08,747 --> 00:42:11,267
Speaker 2: Couldn't get everybody on the air before one. If you'd

840
00:42:11,347 --> 00:42:13,587
Speaker 2: like to make a contribution, we'll open the lines again.

841
00:42:13,907 --> 00:42:17,507
Speaker 2: James mconey also with his regular Sunday offerings. This out.

842
00:42:18,867 --> 00:42:21,707
Speaker 2: Debbie says Piney, can you please say happy seventy fifth

843
00:42:21,787 --> 00:42:26,907
Speaker 2: birthday to nineteen eighty two all white Adrian Elrick. Of course, Debbie,

844
00:42:27,347 --> 00:42:30,467
Speaker 2: of course it's your brother, I think, isn't it? Happy

845
00:42:30,507 --> 00:42:36,347
Speaker 2: birthday Adrian Elrick? What a player he was, Mac of

846
00:42:36,387 --> 00:42:38,787
Speaker 2: the Magpies say, is finally, what about those Magpies beating

847
00:42:38,867 --> 00:42:41,587
Speaker 2: up the big bully boys from Auckland. I saw that

848
00:42:41,747 --> 00:42:44,987
Speaker 2: Macca yesterday. I saw that result. I wasn't watching the game,

849
00:42:45,907 --> 00:42:49,307
Speaker 2: but I saw the result, Harry Godfrey kicking a conversion

850
00:42:49,387 --> 00:42:54,147
Speaker 2: from the sideline in the eighty fourth minute for Hawks

851
00:42:54,187 --> 00:42:57,947
Speaker 2: Bay to beat Auckland thirty six thirty five. And you

852
00:42:58,027 --> 00:43:03,107
Speaker 2: look at the NPC table and Auckland's North Harbor and Northland,

853
00:43:03,187 --> 00:43:07,267
Speaker 2: the three provinces that make up the bluesanchis are all

854
00:43:07,347 --> 00:43:10,947
Speaker 2: outside the top eight at the moment, and unless they

855
00:43:10,987 --> 00:43:13,627
Speaker 2: get their sketch on pretty quickly, won't play in the quarterfinals.

856
00:43:14,107 --> 00:43:15,587
Speaker 2: Auckland has still got a couple of games to go.

857
00:43:15,667 --> 00:43:19,307
Speaker 2: They're on nineteen points currently. Counties are eighth on twenty three.

858
00:43:20,307 --> 00:43:22,907
Speaker 2: Auckland have a game in hand, but they're four points behind.

859
00:43:23,307 --> 00:43:25,787
Speaker 2: North Harbor have a game in hand. They're five points behind.

860
00:43:26,227 --> 00:43:27,947
Speaker 2: Northland are out of it. They've got a game to

861
00:43:27,987 --> 00:43:31,067
Speaker 2: go and they're on thirteen points. So the Super Rugby

862
00:43:31,147 --> 00:43:36,627
Speaker 2: winning Blues and their provinces having very very different twenty

863
00:43:36,707 --> 00:43:40,427
Speaker 2: twenty fours, is there a correlation that. I'm pretty sure

864
00:43:40,467 --> 00:43:43,027
Speaker 2: there's no correlation here between winning Super Rugby and your

865
00:43:43,027 --> 00:43:45,547
Speaker 2: team's not doing very well in NPC. But it's just

866
00:43:45,627 --> 00:43:51,027
Speaker 2: an interesting little storyline. Confirmation came on Friday that can

867
00:43:51,067 --> 00:43:54,587
Speaker 2: We driver Liam Lawson is going to replace Daniel Riccardo

868
00:43:54,827 --> 00:43:56,507
Speaker 2: at the Racing Balls Formula One team.

869
00:43:56,627 --> 00:43:57,147
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.

870
00:43:57,307 --> 00:43:59,067
Speaker 18: He's still going to try and make this move stick

871
00:43:59,147 --> 00:44:02,467
Speaker 18: as well. Leclaire drifts out at to the wide right

872
00:44:02,547 --> 00:44:04,227
Speaker 18: hand side Laws and slots.

873
00:44:04,107 --> 00:44:07,307
Speaker 2: Right back ins behind him. He's got to He's coming.

874
00:44:07,187 --> 00:44:10,547
Speaker 18: Down the inside Liam Lawson and is one TV for

875
00:44:10,667 --> 00:44:14,147
Speaker 18: Alfredtari gets past charl Leclair and he is up. It's

876
00:44:14,187 --> 00:44:17,907
Speaker 18: a fifteenth place, but this boy has got an awful

877
00:44:17,947 --> 00:44:18,667
Speaker 18: lot of potential.

878
00:44:18,787 --> 00:44:22,307
Speaker 2: Hell read Ball obviously agree because Liam laws More race

879
00:44:22,307 --> 00:44:25,027
Speaker 2: alongside Yucus SONODA for the rest of the twenty twenty

880
00:44:25,107 --> 00:44:28,467
Speaker 2: four season. That includes nine races at six venues, six

881
00:44:28,587 --> 00:44:31,867
Speaker 2: four Grand Prix and three sprints. He steps up from

882
00:44:31,907 --> 00:44:35,107
Speaker 2: his reserve role, which he's held since twenty twenty two,

883
00:44:35,347 --> 00:44:38,707
Speaker 2: and we'll race for the first time this year anyway,

884
00:44:38,907 --> 00:44:42,107
Speaker 2: at the United States Grand Prix in Austin in three

885
00:44:42,147 --> 00:44:45,267
Speaker 2: weeks from now. Motor sport writer and analyst Eric Thompson

886
00:44:45,347 --> 00:44:47,867
Speaker 2: joins us to unpack this. Eric, this felt like it

887
00:44:48,027 --> 00:44:50,987
Speaker 2: was coming. It had been widely reported that this was

888
00:44:51,107 --> 00:44:53,867
Speaker 2: on the cards, but how significant is it now that

889
00:44:53,947 --> 00:44:56,707
Speaker 2: it is one hundred percent confirmed for Liam Lawson.

890
00:44:57,987 --> 00:44:58,587
Speaker 4: I think for.

891
00:44:59,267 --> 00:45:04,147
Speaker 19: Liam's perspective, his mum and dad, you know, his management

892
00:45:04,267 --> 00:45:07,867
Speaker 19: team and all the people that have supported him and

893
00:45:07,947 --> 00:45:11,547
Speaker 19: backed him and rode in cars amongst them all, I

894
00:45:11,667 --> 00:45:15,027
Speaker 19: think it's a great relief that they can actually stand

895
00:45:15,147 --> 00:45:17,547
Speaker 19: up now, Pinty and actually go, Yes, the contract has

896
00:45:17,627 --> 00:45:21,147
Speaker 19: been signed. We're locked and loaded till the end of

897
00:45:21,267 --> 00:45:24,947
Speaker 19: the year. And now it's basically everything is in Liam's

898
00:45:25,027 --> 00:45:27,027
Speaker 19: court now. You know, he and the team have got

899
00:45:27,107 --> 00:45:30,067
Speaker 19: him there. He signed the contract, red ball of gone. Yep,

900
00:45:30,227 --> 00:45:32,347
Speaker 19: We've got faith in you. You did a great job

901
00:45:32,507 --> 00:45:34,907
Speaker 19: last year. I mean, god, he got the points last

902
00:45:34,987 --> 00:45:38,787
Speaker 19: year and so this is him. It's up to him

903
00:45:38,867 --> 00:45:43,707
Speaker 19: now to actually make the most of this opportunity to

904
00:45:43,827 --> 00:45:46,707
Speaker 19: make sure that he gets a permanent seat for twenty

905
00:45:46,747 --> 00:45:47,227
Speaker 19: twenty five.

906
00:45:47,987 --> 00:45:49,907
Speaker 2: For a guy who's used to go and at high speed,

907
00:45:50,347 --> 00:45:52,467
Speaker 2: how challenging would it have been for him to be

908
00:45:52,507 --> 00:45:56,227
Speaker 2: a bit patient around us. Oh there's one thing that.

909
00:45:56,347 --> 00:45:58,307
Speaker 19: Some people have asked me in the past about. You know,

910
00:45:58,387 --> 00:46:01,787
Speaker 19: what do you think Set's Liam laws some above others.

911
00:46:01,907 --> 00:46:05,947
Speaker 19: It's his steely reserve and also he's incredibly analytic and

912
00:46:06,107 --> 00:46:09,907
Speaker 19: doesn't make rash decision but he's also quite honest and

913
00:46:10,027 --> 00:46:14,147
Speaker 19: self aware. If we remember from last year, based funning

914
00:46:14,187 --> 00:46:16,147
Speaker 19: enough at Singapore Grand Prix, when it was announced that

915
00:46:16,187 --> 00:46:19,027
Speaker 19: he would not be getting the drive, he basically came

916
00:46:19,067 --> 00:46:21,027
Speaker 19: out and said, hey, I can't quite figure this out.

917
00:46:21,547 --> 00:46:24,587
Speaker 19: I'm quick err and out qualified the other drive in

918
00:46:24,627 --> 00:46:26,547
Speaker 19: the team, and yet he gets signed up. I'm a

919
00:46:26,587 --> 00:46:30,707
Speaker 19: little bit puzzled. So you know that raw emotion means

920
00:46:30,747 --> 00:46:33,387
Speaker 19: he's not a machine. But it's also he sat back

921
00:46:33,467 --> 00:46:37,147
Speaker 19: and thought, Okay, you know I've got offers, I've got this,

922
00:46:37,307 --> 00:46:39,867
Speaker 19: but I look at my long term future like he's

923
00:46:39,987 --> 00:46:42,947
Speaker 19: really quite analytical, and he's not good support of course pinting,

924
00:46:43,187 --> 00:46:45,747
Speaker 19: but it's that analytical look at it what long term

925
00:46:45,787 --> 00:46:48,107
Speaker 19: would be my best option. Do I go to a

926
00:46:48,147 --> 00:46:50,947
Speaker 19: struggling team like a Hass or somebody like that that

927
00:46:51,187 --> 00:46:53,787
Speaker 19: maybe don't have the drive and the pedigree that Red

928
00:46:53,867 --> 00:46:57,787
Speaker 19: Bull have And he just hung in there and basically

929
00:46:58,027 --> 00:47:00,467
Speaker 19: you know they've come good. They said, right here we go,

930
00:47:01,587 --> 00:47:04,067
Speaker 19: here's your opportunity. It's up to you now.

931
00:47:04,667 --> 00:47:06,587
Speaker 2: So listen just for the reminder of twenty twenty four,

932
00:47:06,627 --> 00:47:10,067
Speaker 2: as I mentioned, what will he have to do to

933
00:47:10,947 --> 00:47:13,547
Speaker 2: make sure that he retains that seat in twenty twenty five.

934
00:47:14,667 --> 00:47:18,467
Speaker 19: Outqualify and finish in front of Sonata his teammate. It's

935
00:47:18,627 --> 00:47:22,067
Speaker 19: like in anything anything where you've got teammates, especially in motorsport,

936
00:47:22,147 --> 00:47:26,267
Speaker 19: the very first person you want to beat, regardless of

937
00:47:26,347 --> 00:47:28,347
Speaker 19: what the drivers say, how will they get on with

938
00:47:28,427 --> 00:47:30,587
Speaker 19: your teammates and how they have fun afterwards and stuff

939
00:47:30,627 --> 00:47:34,427
Speaker 19: like that, You want to beat your teammate buying without

940
00:47:34,467 --> 00:47:36,627
Speaker 19: a shadow of doubt, to prove that you are the

941
00:47:36,707 --> 00:47:39,947
Speaker 19: one that they should continue and vesting in. So that's

942
00:47:39,987 --> 00:47:42,587
Speaker 19: his thing. And also to keep the car clean, don't

943
00:47:42,667 --> 00:47:46,307
Speaker 19: break it, bend it, don't cause you know, added financial

944
00:47:46,427 --> 00:47:50,347
Speaker 19: griff for teams. Bring it home straight. But also even

945
00:47:50,387 --> 00:47:53,067
Speaker 19: if you can't outqualify Sonato, it's to finish.

946
00:47:52,787 --> 00:47:54,227
Speaker 5: In front of him, all right.

947
00:47:54,307 --> 00:47:58,027
Speaker 2: So this is Red Bull Racing's second team effectively, Max Forstappen,

948
00:47:58,347 --> 00:48:01,267
Speaker 2: Sergio pires the top combo at the moment. Is there

949
00:48:01,307 --> 00:48:05,267
Speaker 2: any circumstances under which Liam could replace Peiris in twenty

950
00:48:05,347 --> 00:48:08,307
Speaker 2: twenty five if Lawson rice as well for the rest

951
00:48:08,347 --> 00:48:10,467
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four, is that a possible outcoming?

952
00:48:11,227 --> 00:48:14,747
Speaker 19: Absolutely, And I think Helmet Mark and even Christian Horner

953
00:48:16,227 --> 00:48:18,267
Speaker 19: you know, had come to agree that for the future,

954
00:48:18,747 --> 00:48:21,267
Speaker 19: So you know, for somebody with Max as you know,

955
00:48:21,427 --> 00:48:23,747
Speaker 19: as you know, if the staff and stays in the sport,

956
00:48:23,867 --> 00:48:26,907
Speaker 19: even if he doesn't to invest in, Lawson does really

957
00:48:26,987 --> 00:48:29,867
Speaker 19: well and in the rest of the season, he'll be

958
00:48:29,907 --> 00:48:33,147
Speaker 19: setting himself up for a box seat drive for the

959
00:48:33,267 --> 00:48:36,067
Speaker 19: main Red Bull Racing team, you know, either alongside Max

960
00:48:36,147 --> 00:48:38,747
Speaker 19: the staff and if Max does decide he's had enough

961
00:48:38,787 --> 00:48:41,347
Speaker 19: because he's not allowed to swear anymore or anything like that,

962
00:48:42,627 --> 00:48:45,067
Speaker 19: which is the joke that is. But anyway, that's for

963
00:48:45,107 --> 00:48:47,747
Speaker 19: another discussion, pony. But the thing is that you know,

964
00:48:48,027 --> 00:48:50,987
Speaker 19: he's the future either way for that team, and that's

965
00:48:51,027 --> 00:48:53,107
Speaker 19: what they're sort of looking at and investing in is

966
00:48:53,187 --> 00:48:56,067
Speaker 19: to think Max will need a teammate because I doubt

967
00:48:56,107 --> 00:48:59,627
Speaker 19: that Perez will be signed up for next year. So

968
00:49:00,467 --> 00:49:02,547
Speaker 19: you know, there's a vacant seat there. There's a couple

969
00:49:02,547 --> 00:49:06,467
Speaker 19: of other juniors you know, floating around, but law and

970
00:49:06,547 --> 00:49:09,547
Speaker 19: could move into that seat. And I actually truly think

971
00:49:09,627 --> 00:49:12,187
Speaker 19: that's their plan red Bull, is to get them into

972
00:49:12,227 --> 00:49:14,587
Speaker 19: the main seat and then to get another youngster that

973
00:49:14,627 --> 00:49:17,667
Speaker 19: they've got on the wings into the junior team, shall

974
00:49:17,707 --> 00:49:18,027
Speaker 19: we call it.

975
00:49:18,387 --> 00:49:21,147
Speaker 2: I've had a suggested that Liam could have replaced Perez

976
00:49:21,427 --> 00:49:23,947
Speaker 2: straight away in the top team. That would have left

977
00:49:23,987 --> 00:49:27,307
Speaker 2: Daniel Ricardo retaining his place alongside Snoda. Did that ever

978
00:49:27,347 --> 00:49:29,667
Speaker 2: feel like that could be an option for them?

979
00:49:30,547 --> 00:49:34,427
Speaker 19: Not before Mexico because you know, you know, Mexican driver

980
00:49:34,507 --> 00:49:38,787
Speaker 19: in Mexico, big big country, loads of people, you know,

981
00:49:39,507 --> 00:49:42,187
Speaker 19: and to raise the awareness to Red Bull, you know,

982
00:49:42,427 --> 00:49:45,467
Speaker 19: purely from a commercial point of view, you want pereers

983
00:49:45,507 --> 00:49:51,227
Speaker 19: in Mexico. So potentially he might have been dropped after Mexico,

984
00:49:51,387 --> 00:49:53,067
Speaker 19: but it was always going to be after Mexico. And

985
00:49:53,147 --> 00:49:56,107
Speaker 19: then that doesn't really leave enough time for the Red

986
00:49:56,147 --> 00:49:59,107
Speaker 19: Bull management to actually have a look at Lawson to

987
00:49:59,147 --> 00:50:02,107
Speaker 19: see whether you know, he has that consistency that looking

988
00:50:02,387 --> 00:50:04,547
Speaker 19: you know they're looking for. But I don't think unless

989
00:50:04,587 --> 00:50:07,027
Speaker 19: Perez does something magical to the the rest of the season,

990
00:50:07,067 --> 00:50:08,307
Speaker 19: I can't see him there next year.

991
00:50:08,547 --> 00:50:10,947
Speaker 2: All Right, we wait and see. This doesn't seem to

992
00:50:11,027 --> 00:50:15,347
Speaker 2: have been handled particularly well by Red Bull, Liam saiding

993
00:50:15,427 --> 00:50:17,627
Speaker 2: you a couple of weeks ago. Daniel Ricardo said he

994
00:50:17,707 --> 00:50:20,987
Speaker 2: only found out officially after the Singapore Grand Pleay last week.

995
00:50:21,027 --> 00:50:24,307
Speaker 2: Everybody seemed to know that this was happening. What did

996
00:50:24,347 --> 00:50:27,587
Speaker 2: you make of the process? Oh, it's a typical Red Bull.

997
00:50:27,667 --> 00:50:30,987
Speaker 19: They are ruthless. I mean, their pr team is very good.

998
00:50:31,027 --> 00:50:33,427
Speaker 19: To think that they support juniors. They're really good with

999
00:50:33,507 --> 00:50:35,707
Speaker 19: the juniors and you know, they support them and they

1000
00:50:35,787 --> 00:50:39,667
Speaker 19: bring them up through. But basically the juniors have to pay. Yeah,

1001
00:50:39,747 --> 00:50:42,507
Speaker 19: Lawson would have been on peanuts as a reserve driver.

1002
00:50:42,947 --> 00:50:44,347
Speaker 19: You know, I think, you know, you'll be on a

1003
00:50:44,427 --> 00:50:46,547
Speaker 19: decent whack now compared.

1004
00:50:46,227 --> 00:50:46,947
Speaker 6: To the rest of us.

1005
00:50:47,147 --> 00:50:50,467
Speaker 19: But that's just the way they are. They're just a

1006
00:50:50,747 --> 00:50:54,627
Speaker 19: meat factory. They just grind people out. You look at Devrees,

1007
00:50:55,467 --> 00:50:58,987
Speaker 19: you got the archer. You look at Brendan Hartley, you know,

1008
00:50:59,187 --> 00:51:00,827
Speaker 19: only lasted one season.

1009
00:51:02,187 --> 00:51:04,027
Speaker 2: Pierre Gasly Albin.

1010
00:51:04,147 --> 00:51:06,147
Speaker 19: You know all these guys, they just if you do

1011
00:51:06,467 --> 00:51:09,947
Speaker 19: not perform instantly, they have no interest in.

1012
00:51:10,867 --> 00:51:14,347
Speaker 2: What's the danger then of Liam Lawson being chewed up

1013
00:51:14,387 --> 00:51:15,507
Speaker 2: and spat out by Red Bull.

1014
00:51:16,827 --> 00:51:19,307
Speaker 19: You know, personally, I think he's got the mental fortitude

1015
00:51:19,427 --> 00:51:22,587
Speaker 19: not to and he's proven. I mean, if you think

1016
00:51:22,747 --> 00:51:27,787
Speaker 19: he's everywhere he's raced so far, including Tintops and the DTM,

1017
00:51:27,987 --> 00:51:30,827
Speaker 19: he's podiumed or won a race. He nearly won the

1018
00:51:32,027 --> 00:51:36,227
Speaker 19: Japanese super Formula Championship. He's mentally really strong and he'll

1019
00:51:36,307 --> 00:51:39,427
Speaker 19: know this is an opportunity, but he's really measured. You

1020
00:51:39,507 --> 00:51:42,227
Speaker 19: remember watching him and some of the listeners watching him

1021
00:51:42,307 --> 00:51:46,827
Speaker 19: after he's at van Voort, you know, in a pouring rain,

1022
00:51:48,107 --> 00:51:51,907
Speaker 19: never been to the circuit before, abysmal conditions. I think

1023
00:51:51,907 --> 00:51:56,347
Speaker 19: he finished thirteenth in his first race, and then you know,

1024
00:51:56,507 --> 00:51:59,467
Speaker 19: getting into the points, he will go about this knowing

1025
00:52:00,027 --> 00:52:02,387
Speaker 19: you can't let the red Mist and the burst Circle

1026
00:52:02,547 --> 00:52:02,987
Speaker 19: rage or the.

1027
00:52:03,587 --> 00:52:05,587
Speaker 20: Dominform on or go flat out.

1028
00:52:05,707 --> 00:52:06,227
Speaker 17: But things.

1029
00:52:06,747 --> 00:52:09,707
Speaker 19: Yeah, he's been around for too long and he's got

1030
00:52:09,747 --> 00:52:13,747
Speaker 19: some really good people that have mentored him Piney through

1031
00:52:13,827 --> 00:52:16,827
Speaker 19: this whole journey. He has the right mental fortitude and

1032
00:52:16,947 --> 00:52:19,947
Speaker 19: he's quick. Everybody knows he's quick. He's proven he's quick

1033
00:52:19,987 --> 00:52:23,667
Speaker 19: in his cars, so it's all lining up quite nicely.

1034
00:52:23,867 --> 00:52:26,427
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good summary, Eric, Great to get

1035
00:52:26,467 --> 00:52:30,067
Speaker 2: your analysis as always, where await with interest the United

1036
00:52:30,107 --> 00:52:32,947
Speaker 2: States Grand Prix in about three weeks time and the

1037
00:52:32,987 --> 00:52:35,067
Speaker 2: rest of twenty twenty four and to see what twenty

1038
00:52:35,107 --> 00:52:36,667
Speaker 2: twenty five holds. Always great to chat.

1039
00:52:36,547 --> 00:52:38,067
Speaker 19: Mate, Thanks Baron, always a pleasure.

1040
00:52:38,107 --> 00:52:43,107
Speaker 2: Good on you, mate. That's Eric Thompson, motorsport analyst, journalist, reporter, observer,

1041
00:52:44,147 --> 00:52:48,667
Speaker 2: pretty astute observer too, so Liam Lawson. Yeah, the United

1042
00:52:48,707 --> 00:52:52,787
Speaker 2: States Grand Prix October eighteen through twenty is up next,

1043
00:52:52,827 --> 00:52:55,827
Speaker 2: so what's that three weeks away? Then Mexico, Brazil, Las Vegas,

1044
00:52:56,307 --> 00:53:00,747
Speaker 2: Kata and Abu Dhabi to finish, So six six Grand

1045
00:53:00,787 --> 00:53:05,587
Speaker 2: Prix to go and well, listening to Eric, therek in

1046
00:53:06,147 --> 00:53:08,587
Speaker 2: not just be that Liam Lawson does well enough to

1047
00:53:08,627 --> 00:53:13,027
Speaker 2: retain his seat in Red Bull second team. But it

1048
00:53:13,147 --> 00:53:15,227
Speaker 2: may well be that in twenty twenty five it's a

1049
00:53:15,347 --> 00:53:18,147
Speaker 2: tea and for Stappin, which would be a meteoric rise,

1050
00:53:18,147 --> 00:53:20,147
Speaker 2: wouldn't it From the start of this year when you'd

1051
00:53:20,227 --> 00:53:22,747
Speaker 2: never seat to being alongside Max for Stappin in the

1052
00:53:22,787 --> 00:53:26,747
Speaker 2: top team. Motorsport fans are keen to get your your

1053
00:53:26,827 --> 00:53:29,227
Speaker 2: gauge on this. How big is this? Obviously is big.

1054
00:53:29,867 --> 00:53:32,667
Speaker 2: It's been something that's been bubbling away for a while.

1055
00:53:32,707 --> 00:53:35,147
Speaker 2: But to have a Kiwi with a regular drive in

1056
00:53:35,227 --> 00:53:37,267
Speaker 2: Formula One, certainly for the back end of this year,

1057
00:53:37,467 --> 00:53:38,907
Speaker 2: and you'd have to think if he doesn't, you know,

1058
00:53:39,067 --> 00:53:43,547
Speaker 2: make a catastrophic you know, dog's breakfast of it. He'll

1059
00:53:43,627 --> 00:53:46,067
Speaker 2: be in the in the car again next year. So

1060
00:53:46,227 --> 00:53:48,587
Speaker 2: a full year in twenty twenty five, be it in

1061
00:53:48,627 --> 00:53:50,787
Speaker 2: the top team or in the second team. This is

1062
00:53:50,987 --> 00:53:54,787
Speaker 2: hugely significant, isn't it massively significant? Just that little red

1063
00:53:54,867 --> 00:53:58,467
Speaker 2: flag around Red Ball in the way they treat people.

1064
00:53:58,827 --> 00:54:04,627
Speaker 2: Daniel Ricardo the latest major blowback. Major blowback from Australian

1065
00:54:04,987 --> 00:54:08,147
Speaker 2: motorsport fans after the Daniel Ricardo was treated. Nothing against

1066
00:54:08,187 --> 00:54:11,067
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson, Adam Peacock said yesterday on the show our

1067
00:54:11,067 --> 00:54:14,547
Speaker 2: Australian correspondent. Nobody is saying, oh well, Liam Lawson's.

1068
00:54:14,187 --> 00:54:14,627
Speaker 4: Not up to it.

1069
00:54:14,827 --> 00:54:17,547
Speaker 2: It's just the way that Red Bull have treated Daniel

1070
00:54:17,587 --> 00:54:21,627
Speaker 2: Ricardo and even the whole sagey at Perry's thing here

1071
00:54:21,667 --> 00:54:23,587
Speaker 2: eck you know, you don't get rid of it until

1072
00:54:23,627 --> 00:54:25,867
Speaker 2: after the Mexican Grand Prix because you want to sell

1073
00:54:25,867 --> 00:54:28,787
Speaker 2: a million cans of Red Bull in Mexico basically, So

1074
00:54:28,867 --> 00:54:32,427
Speaker 2: there's all these commercial imperatives too. Are Yuki Sonoda? Liam

1075
00:54:32,467 --> 00:54:36,027
Speaker 2: Lawson finished ahead of him when he was racing last

1076
00:54:36,107 --> 00:54:40,027
Speaker 2: year as a replacement for Ricardo and pretty much every race,

1077
00:54:40,107 --> 00:54:42,547
Speaker 2: I think, And yet Sonoda brings with him a huge

1078
00:54:43,067 --> 00:54:49,507
Speaker 2: Asian audience and a huge commercial benefit. Liam doesn't have that.

1079
00:54:50,907 --> 00:54:53,107
Speaker 2: But I guess if you boil it back, if he

1080
00:54:53,187 --> 00:54:56,027
Speaker 2: drives fast and keeps the car out of trouble, then

1081
00:54:56,787 --> 00:54:59,187
Speaker 2: that's half the battle. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

1082
00:54:59,187 --> 00:55:01,707
Speaker 2: to eighty Motorsport fans to give us your read on this.

1083
00:55:02,347 --> 00:55:03,827
Speaker 2: We can pick up on the Rugby again as well

1084
00:55:03,827 --> 00:55:07,467
Speaker 2: if you like. Didn't get everybody on the air before

1085
00:55:08,187 --> 00:55:10,307
Speaker 2: one o'clock, so if you'd like to add your two

1086
00:55:10,347 --> 00:55:12,307
Speaker 2: cents on the rugby something you saw last night. There

1087
00:55:12,387 --> 00:55:14,587
Speaker 2: was some interesting decisions to be made around the end

1088
00:55:14,627 --> 00:55:18,107
Speaker 2: of year tour now as well, Scott Robertson saying to

1089
00:55:18,107 --> 00:55:20,707
Speaker 2: the media this morning they'll pick thirty six for the

1090
00:55:20,867 --> 00:55:24,547
Speaker 2: end of year tour. That squad's being named tomorrow week.

1091
00:55:25,387 --> 00:55:27,507
Speaker 2: I mean it'll be basically that the players that are

1092
00:55:27,587 --> 00:55:29,667
Speaker 2: there now right I can't see them, you know, they

1093
00:55:29,707 --> 00:55:31,867
Speaker 2: won't bring too many more in from outside the squad.

1094
00:55:32,547 --> 00:55:37,587
Speaker 2: There's also a twenty nine man squad that's going to

1095
00:55:37,667 --> 00:55:42,107
Speaker 2: go up and play games against Munster and Georgia. So

1096
00:55:42,267 --> 00:55:45,747
Speaker 2: another twenty nine players will also be heading up to

1097
00:55:45,827 --> 00:55:50,107
Speaker 2: the Northern Hemisphere. So it's that set sixty five players.

1098
00:55:50,707 --> 00:55:52,867
Speaker 2: Sixty five players are going to be heading up north,

1099
00:55:53,387 --> 00:55:55,867
Speaker 2: and Scott Robertson said that if they need to, they

1100
00:55:55,947 --> 00:55:58,547
Speaker 2: can bring in players from the twenty nine into the

1101
00:55:58,627 --> 00:56:01,267
Speaker 2: thirty six. He also said an interesting thing that when

1102
00:56:01,267 --> 00:56:03,827
Speaker 2: they go to Japan, the thirty six will go together,

1103
00:56:04,667 --> 00:56:08,867
Speaker 2: but an advance party will be sent to England ahead

1104
00:56:09,027 --> 00:56:13,107
Speaker 2: of the Japanese Test. So the Japanese Test is on

1105
00:56:13,187 --> 00:56:16,987
Speaker 2: October the twenty sixth. The team will travel up there,

1106
00:56:17,027 --> 00:56:19,507
Speaker 2: presumably a week before that, so around the sort of

1107
00:56:19,547 --> 00:56:22,587
Speaker 2: the seventeen eighteenth, nineteenth of October, get up there with

1108
00:56:22,627 --> 00:56:25,467
Speaker 2: a week to prep and then I guess he didn't

1109
00:56:25,507 --> 00:56:28,347
Speaker 2: specify exactly, but a couple of days before that test match,

1110
00:56:28,787 --> 00:56:31,907
Speaker 2: an advance party of players who will no doubt feature

1111
00:56:32,347 --> 00:56:35,267
Speaker 2: against England at Twickenham on the third of November will

1112
00:56:35,347 --> 00:56:39,187
Speaker 2: go on ahead, so they won't be in Japan in

1113
00:56:39,307 --> 00:56:41,667
Speaker 2: Yokohama for the Test match. They will have already arrived

1114
00:56:41,707 --> 00:56:44,107
Speaker 2: in London to start their preparations and then the rest

1115
00:56:44,107 --> 00:56:45,707
Speaker 2: of them will catch them up after the Japan Test.

1116
00:56:46,507 --> 00:56:48,947
Speaker 2: So interesting, you know, nothing's off the table these days

1117
00:56:49,347 --> 00:56:51,827
Speaker 2: when it comes to repairing for test matches. One twenty

1118
00:56:51,867 --> 00:56:54,107
Speaker 2: two Lines open oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1119
00:56:54,307 --> 00:56:55,947
Speaker 2: I want to pick up on the Motorsport with Liam

1120
00:56:55,987 --> 00:56:58,147
Speaker 2: Lawson or last night's rugby back in a sek on

1121
00:56:58,187 --> 00:57:00,387
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport one.

1122
00:57:00,387 --> 00:57:06,107
Speaker 1: Crutch Hold Engage Weekend Sports with Jason Frame and gij Gunner,

1123
00:57:06,747 --> 00:57:09,067
Speaker 1: New Zealand's trusted News Talk.

1124
00:57:10,107 --> 00:57:13,427
Speaker 3: I mean he's shorts popping up again the your blackness time.

1125
00:57:13,307 --> 00:57:14,027
Speaker 6: They're over.

1126
00:57:15,547 --> 00:57:18,587
Speaker 15: And it's a bit will you as their placement prop?

1127
00:57:18,867 --> 00:57:21,947
Speaker 2: One twenty five on News Talk zbuh, let's give back

1128
00:57:21,947 --> 00:57:24,107
Speaker 2: to the lines. How are you Steve here?

1129
00:57:24,107 --> 00:57:28,827
Speaker 21: You get a finey good thanks mate. Three things me

1130
00:57:29,267 --> 00:57:32,067
Speaker 21: I would have liked to have seen them, possibly given

1131
00:57:32,467 --> 00:57:35,427
Speaker 21: him a complete arrest yesterday and put Harry Palmer in

1132
00:57:35,507 --> 00:57:39,147
Speaker 21: there as he both plays first and second five and

1133
00:57:39,707 --> 00:57:42,067
Speaker 21: we want to read a three stream minute class week.

1134
00:57:42,067 --> 00:57:44,107
Speaker 21: It would have been a nice to have seen.

1135
00:57:45,587 --> 00:57:48,507
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought they might. I thought they might do

1136
00:57:48,627 --> 00:57:52,107
Speaker 2: something with Plumber as well. He's clearly very popular around

1137
00:57:52,147 --> 00:57:54,307
Speaker 2: the group. He's he was terrific for the Blues. As

1138
00:57:54,387 --> 00:57:58,867
Speaker 2: you say, Stevie covers a couple of positions. Yeah, they

1139
00:57:59,467 --> 00:58:01,347
Speaker 2: could have. You're right, they could have sent it to

1140
00:58:01,427 --> 00:58:03,627
Speaker 2: Damian if had a big workload. We'll play you again

1141
00:58:03,627 --> 00:58:04,907
Speaker 2: against Japan, but have this one off.

1142
00:58:05,867 --> 00:58:06,067
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1143
00:58:06,387 --> 00:58:08,387
Speaker 21: I think it would have been good because so many

1144
00:58:08,427 --> 00:58:11,387
Speaker 21: people were talking about him, and that's me coming from Wellington,

1145
00:58:11,507 --> 00:58:14,867
Speaker 21: so I would have I would have been him there.

1146
00:58:16,467 --> 00:58:20,827
Speaker 21: Sometimes sometimes you got to back some good Auklanders. Yeah.

1147
00:58:20,867 --> 00:58:22,667
Speaker 2: Look, just don't make a habit of it, Steve. But yeah,

1148
00:58:22,947 --> 00:58:23,667
Speaker 2: I take your for it.

1149
00:58:23,867 --> 00:58:28,387
Speaker 21: Yeah, Cody Taylor, I think you're right when you said

1150
00:58:28,427 --> 00:58:31,907
Speaker 21: he came back to expect him to play some final

1151
00:58:32,227 --> 00:58:37,507
Speaker 21: rugbys in the rugby because he only went on holiday.

1152
00:58:37,547 --> 00:58:40,027
Speaker 21: He never went and played anywhere else. So when he

1153
00:58:40,147 --> 00:58:43,227
Speaker 21: ended up hitting the All Blacks, he was really fresh

1154
00:58:44,107 --> 00:58:45,427
Speaker 21: and it showed, and it showed.

1155
00:58:45,987 --> 00:58:48,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he must have had without Like I say,

1156
00:58:48,867 --> 00:58:50,587
Speaker 2: I counted the games he missed the first ten, so

1157
00:58:50,667 --> 00:58:52,467
Speaker 2: clearly that was the plan to come back after ten

1158
00:58:52,587 --> 00:58:55,667
Speaker 2: rounds and play for the Crusaders. In his mind, played

1159
00:58:55,667 --> 00:58:57,187
Speaker 2: for the Crusaders in the back end of the season

1160
00:58:57,427 --> 00:58:59,867
Speaker 2: and then into the playoffs, which of course never eventuated

1161
00:58:59,947 --> 00:59:02,027
Speaker 2: last year. So yeah, fresh as a daisy once he

1162
00:59:02,067 --> 00:59:05,507
Speaker 2: hit the All Blacks and he's been magnificent, has he?

1163
00:59:05,587 --> 00:59:05,627
Speaker 1: What?

1164
00:59:05,947 --> 00:59:09,707
Speaker 21: You know, he's been bloody good. And I've taken my

1165
00:59:09,747 --> 00:59:13,387
Speaker 21: hat off to the Sam Cain. Over the years, I've

1166
00:59:13,587 --> 00:59:15,587
Speaker 21: never and especially when he was captain as well, I've

1167
00:59:15,627 --> 00:59:18,467
Speaker 21: never really been a Cane supporter. But I must admit

1168
00:59:18,667 --> 00:59:20,507
Speaker 21: he came back in his last few games and played

1169
00:59:20,547 --> 00:59:24,067
Speaker 21: pretty well and he got his hundred, so he actually

1170
00:59:24,107 --> 00:59:25,827
Speaker 21: earned it at the end. It was one as though

1171
00:59:25,907 --> 00:59:27,827
Speaker 21: he was he was picked to get his hundred and

1172
00:59:27,867 --> 00:59:28,627
Speaker 21: he picked and.

1173
00:59:28,627 --> 00:59:31,587
Speaker 2: Played there, you know, well without without question. Yet he

1174
00:59:31,667 --> 00:59:34,227
Speaker 2: started the last four games that in that seven jersey,

1175
00:59:34,347 --> 00:59:37,387
Speaker 2: and you cannot say that he hasn't hasn't earned it.

1176
00:59:37,467 --> 00:59:40,787
Speaker 2: The big question now, Steve is who will play I

1177
00:59:40,867 --> 00:59:42,387
Speaker 2: mean any of yet or I think Sam Kin will

1178
00:59:42,387 --> 00:59:45,067
Speaker 2: probably go, but who will wear the seven jersey for

1179
00:59:45,187 --> 00:59:48,307
Speaker 2: the All Blacks in twenty twenty five and onwards. Who's

1180
00:59:48,307 --> 00:59:49,987
Speaker 2: going to wear that jersey next year?

1181
00:59:51,267 --> 00:59:52,627
Speaker 21: I haven't got that far yet, mate.

1182
00:59:53,867 --> 00:59:56,107
Speaker 2: I thought you might say Peter Larkeye being from Wellington.

1183
00:59:56,867 --> 01:00:00,147
Speaker 21: Oh yeah, yeah, well I like him as the number eight,

1184
01:00:00,227 --> 01:00:04,427
Speaker 21: but yeah, probably him. Yeah, I'd go along with your

1185
01:00:04,507 --> 01:00:05,547
Speaker 21: Wellington thinking as.

1186
01:00:05,467 --> 01:00:09,107
Speaker 2: Well, mate, good to chat, make good to have a

1187
01:00:09,187 --> 01:00:12,387
Speaker 2: bit of a capital chat. I think Peter like I

1188
01:00:12,507 --> 01:00:14,787
Speaker 2: may maybe a smokey for any year tour he's been

1189
01:00:14,827 --> 01:00:16,587
Speaker 2: in and around the team. They have to do some

1190
01:00:16,707 --> 01:00:19,907
Speaker 2: stage workout what they do in the seven jersey Dotton Papalei,

1191
01:00:19,907 --> 01:00:21,627
Speaker 2: you played there the first two Tests of the year

1192
01:00:21,787 --> 01:00:24,827
Speaker 2: and then also the two Tests against Argentina and hasn't

1193
01:00:24,867 --> 01:00:27,827
Speaker 2: been sighted since Ethan blackadd have played there against Fiji

1194
01:00:28,667 --> 01:00:31,827
Speaker 2: and Sam Kaines had the jersey through the South African

1195
01:00:31,907 --> 01:00:35,787
Speaker 2: swing and then the two games against Australia. What do

1196
01:00:35,907 --> 01:00:38,347
Speaker 2: they do in that seven jumper moving forward? It might

1197
01:00:38,427 --> 01:00:40,267
Speaker 2: well be that Sam Kane. I think they'll take Sam

1198
01:00:40,347 --> 01:00:42,987
Speaker 2: Kane up north. I mean, why wouldn't they take them,

1199
01:00:43,067 --> 01:00:44,747
Speaker 2: same with t J. I think they'll take them both.

1200
01:00:46,187 --> 01:00:48,627
Speaker 2: But then beyond this year they've got a decision to

1201
01:00:48,667 --> 01:00:51,627
Speaker 2: make around that seven jumper. Half backs. I think we're okay,

1202
01:00:51,747 --> 01:00:55,667
Speaker 2: we are, you know, cam Roy, Guard, Cortez, Latima, Noah

1203
01:00:55,707 --> 01:00:59,587
Speaker 2: Hotham's three for starters. So you're okay there, But what

1204
01:01:00,067 --> 01:01:04,187
Speaker 2: are they going to do at open side next year?

1205
01:01:04,707 --> 01:01:06,907
Speaker 2: It's one of a couple of conundra for them. Good

1206
01:01:06,907 --> 01:01:10,107
Speaker 2: to chat, Steve I, Doug ok Piney.

1207
01:01:11,187 --> 01:01:13,707
Speaker 9: I don't know if anybody's mentioned it, but I noticed

1208
01:01:13,827 --> 01:01:17,387
Speaker 9: last night with a definite like lack of kicking. We

1209
01:01:17,547 --> 01:01:20,627
Speaker 9: didn't box kick, what specially in.

1210
01:01:20,627 --> 01:01:24,907
Speaker 6: The first half. We held on with the ball. Every

1211
01:01:25,067 --> 01:01:26,067
Speaker 6: night when I watch.

1212
01:01:25,947 --> 01:01:28,227
Speaker 9: It and I see them kicking on, yeah, I don't

1213
01:01:28,387 --> 01:01:32,947
Speaker 9: kick and we if we want the other team, that

1214
01:01:32,947 --> 01:01:34,027
Speaker 9: wouldn't give them the ball.

1215
01:01:36,227 --> 01:01:38,467
Speaker 2: So there was, yeah, there was there was a lack

1216
01:01:38,627 --> 01:01:40,707
Speaker 2: you actually, dug, now that you mentioned it. I hadn't.

1217
01:01:40,707 --> 01:01:42,267
Speaker 2: It hadn't occurred to me at the time. But you're

1218
01:01:42,307 --> 01:01:45,187
Speaker 2: right thinking back there last night, very little on the

1219
01:01:45,227 --> 01:01:46,027
Speaker 2: way box kicking.

1220
01:01:47,307 --> 01:01:51,667
Speaker 17: I don't know if what's in a Wellington half mid lost.

1221
01:01:55,267 --> 01:01:59,187
Speaker 2: And and you're right he normally does you know an

1222
01:01:59,227 --> 01:02:00,987
Speaker 2: of aptim two and it's whoever it is. I mean,

1223
01:02:00,987 --> 01:02:02,467
Speaker 2: it's clearly a part of a game plan that they

1224
01:02:02,667 --> 01:02:04,947
Speaker 2: that they put on the shelf last night, because you're

1225
01:02:04,947 --> 01:02:06,547
Speaker 2: so right, Doug, they hardly did it all.

1226
01:02:07,587 --> 01:02:09,747
Speaker 9: And then in that first half we made quite a

1227
01:02:09,787 --> 01:02:12,307
Speaker 9: lot of you know, movement, We went forward and held

1228
01:02:12,387 --> 01:02:14,427
Speaker 9: onto the ball and when we did get it, we

1229
01:02:14,587 --> 01:02:19,267
Speaker 9: made you know, we got it running good. But normally

1230
01:02:19,347 --> 01:02:21,547
Speaker 9: it's kick kick, kick, and we keep giving them a

1231
01:02:21,627 --> 01:02:25,507
Speaker 9: ball and then we're defending and from there, especially with

1232
01:02:25,587 --> 01:02:29,427
Speaker 9: the teams, that leads to a lot of advantage to them.

1233
01:02:30,187 --> 01:02:30,387
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1234
01:02:30,427 --> 01:02:31,987
Speaker 2: I think it's still a bit of a mystery to

1235
01:02:32,067 --> 01:02:33,547
Speaker 2: some of us, dug as to why they do it

1236
01:02:33,627 --> 01:02:36,187
Speaker 2: so often, because at the very best it's fifty to

1237
01:02:36,227 --> 01:02:38,827
Speaker 2: fifty that you're going to get it back. There's obviously

1238
01:02:38,867 --> 01:02:41,827
Speaker 2: a method to it and a reason, you know, and

1239
01:02:41,907 --> 01:02:43,427
Speaker 2: to clear your lines if you're in your own twenty

1240
01:02:43,467 --> 01:02:46,747
Speaker 2: two or whatever it is. Yeah, and if it is

1241
01:02:46,787 --> 01:02:48,827
Speaker 2: as long as there's willing chases, then it can be

1242
01:02:48,867 --> 01:02:53,067
Speaker 2: an effective tactic. But there's there's only a very small

1243
01:02:53,107 --> 01:02:55,067
Speaker 2: margin for error if you, you know, don't get the

1244
01:02:55,147 --> 01:02:56,987
Speaker 2: hide on it. I don't have the chasers, you know,

1245
01:02:57,107 --> 01:02:58,627
Speaker 2: just giving the ball back to the other team, don't you.

1246
01:02:59,507 --> 01:03:01,027
Speaker 19: Yeah, And then you can work hard.

1247
01:03:01,107 --> 01:03:03,667
Speaker 9: And I noticed in a couple of other games when

1248
01:03:03,707 --> 01:03:06,787
Speaker 9: we played them when they wanted to keep the gave

1249
01:03:06,827 --> 01:03:08,667
Speaker 9: it to the first five and he kicked it out,

1250
01:03:09,027 --> 01:03:11,187
Speaker 9: so they made sure they went up the petic and

1251
01:03:11,267 --> 01:03:13,347
Speaker 9: not just to back into someone's hands.

1252
01:03:14,507 --> 01:03:16,467
Speaker 2: I just had a text before, Doug, actually, when you're

1253
01:03:16,507 --> 01:03:19,067
Speaker 2: talking about box kicking, apparently in the Hawks Bay Auckland

1254
01:03:19,107 --> 01:03:23,467
Speaker 2: game yesterday I played in Napier. I think whenever there

1255
01:03:23,547 --> 01:03:25,427
Speaker 2: was a box kicked, the crowd booed.

1256
01:03:30,467 --> 01:03:32,387
Speaker 9: You at the other teams that wouldn't give him the ball.

1257
01:03:34,027 --> 01:03:35,907
Speaker 2: Good on your Doug, Good to chat mate, Thanks for

1258
01:03:36,027 --> 01:03:42,267
Speaker 2: calling through oh eight eight nine two the seven issue.

1259
01:03:42,627 --> 01:03:44,267
Speaker 2: I didn't have it down on the list of things

1260
01:03:44,307 --> 01:03:46,467
Speaker 2: to talk about, but it actually has just occurred to

1261
01:03:46,507 --> 01:03:49,707
Speaker 2: me in a chat about Sam Kine. There you know

1262
01:03:50,067 --> 01:03:56,507
Speaker 2: who who will it be? Dotton Papaali for some reason

1263
01:03:56,587 --> 01:03:58,507
Speaker 2: just seems to have I don't know where he's fallen

1264
01:03:58,507 --> 01:04:00,747
Speaker 2: out of favor and he can't pig everybody, but just

1265
01:04:00,827 --> 01:04:02,747
Speaker 2: checking this. He hasn't even been in the match day

1266
01:04:02,787 --> 01:04:07,867
Speaker 2: squad for the last four games. He started both against

1267
01:04:07,947 --> 01:04:12,027
Speaker 2: England and both against Argentina, and hasn't been cited in

1268
01:04:12,067 --> 01:04:16,227
Speaker 2: the four Test matches since off the bench in terms

1269
01:04:16,267 --> 01:04:19,307
Speaker 2: of loose forward cover. It's been Luca Jacobson for the

1270
01:04:19,427 --> 01:04:22,827
Speaker 2: last three Test matches. Some of Penny Feenwe came off

1271
01:04:22,867 --> 01:04:26,827
Speaker 2: the bench in Johannesburg against South Africa and really you

1272
01:04:26,987 --> 01:04:29,347
Speaker 2: have to say, I just remember that being a less

1273
01:04:29,387 --> 01:04:31,987
Speaker 2: than memorable test for some of Penny Female and we

1274
01:04:32,067 --> 01:04:36,107
Speaker 2: haven't seen him since Luke Jacobson. Would he? I mean,

1275
01:04:36,147 --> 01:04:39,467
Speaker 2: he can play all three, can't he? Would he start

1276
01:04:39,507 --> 01:04:42,587
Speaker 2: at seven? Perhaps Ethan Blackadder was the guy who got

1277
01:04:42,667 --> 01:04:46,507
Speaker 2: the jersey against Fiji. He just seems to He just

1278
01:04:46,507 --> 01:04:49,187
Speaker 2: seems to get injured a bit, doesn't he. And that's

1279
01:04:49,267 --> 01:04:51,827
Speaker 2: not a criticism. It just happens to some people. But

1280
01:04:51,947 --> 01:04:54,547
Speaker 2: Ethan Blackadder could be your guy. The other thing that

1281
01:04:54,627 --> 01:04:57,147
Speaker 2: Scott Robertson said last night in the postmatch media conference,

1282
01:04:57,187 --> 01:04:59,547
Speaker 2: which was really interesting around Wallas Satiti in the fact

1283
01:04:59,587 --> 01:05:02,667
Speaker 2: he's playing at blindside and not number eight where he's

1284
01:05:02,667 --> 01:05:05,707
Speaker 2: played almost all of us Super rugby, is that it actually,

1285
01:05:06,027 --> 01:05:08,747
Speaker 2: at the moment sometimes doesn't matter what number you got on.

1286
01:05:09,147 --> 01:05:12,907
Speaker 2: He likes as loose forwards to be interchangeable. They might

1287
01:05:13,027 --> 01:05:15,867
Speaker 2: wear six, seven and eight, but they all do all

1288
01:05:15,947 --> 01:05:19,027
Speaker 2: sorts of different things, which is, well, look at a

1289
01:05:19,747 --> 01:05:22,907
Speaker 2: loose forward trio if we look beyond Sam Caine of

1290
01:05:23,187 --> 01:05:26,227
Speaker 2: Ethan Blackadder, Wallace Atiti and Artie Savilla.

1291
01:05:27,867 --> 01:05:28,027
Speaker 6: You know.

1292
01:05:29,707 --> 01:05:32,827
Speaker 2: Ethan Blackadder. I think he's played all three positions, certainly

1293
01:05:32,867 --> 01:05:36,787
Speaker 2: for the Crusaders. Artie's played eight for the last little

1294
01:05:36,827 --> 01:05:39,427
Speaker 2: why but of course also can play seven, So Titi

1295
01:05:39,507 --> 01:05:41,707
Speaker 2: can play six and eight. So actually it doesn't really

1296
01:05:41,787 --> 01:05:45,947
Speaker 2: matter if they're interchangeable as such. Maybe that is the

1297
01:05:45,987 --> 01:05:49,267
Speaker 2: way forward. You don't have to have a specialist open

1298
01:05:49,387 --> 01:05:51,987
Speaker 2: side in the way that we used to consider. I

1299
01:05:52,027 --> 01:05:54,067
Speaker 2: don't know Michael Jones although he went to six, Josh

1300
01:05:54,107 --> 01:05:58,907
Speaker 2: Croenfeld as you you know, an absolute number seven, Jerome

1301
01:05:58,987 --> 01:06:01,667
Speaker 2: Kinor as an absolute number six although could cover eight.

1302
01:06:01,907 --> 01:06:05,747
Speaker 2: Karen Reid is an absolute number eight, although he started

1303
01:06:05,747 --> 01:06:09,067
Speaker 2: off playing six again, So the point's being proven it

1304
01:06:09,387 --> 01:06:12,827
Speaker 2: maybe it is just a number on the back rather

1305
01:06:12,987 --> 01:06:16,147
Speaker 2: than something which has to define exactly what you do.

1306
01:06:16,867 --> 01:06:18,427
Speaker 2: Chopp says, I think it will be it will be

1307
01:06:18,467 --> 01:06:22,547
Speaker 2: black aut of next year. Up the Naki. Someone's asked

1308
01:06:22,587 --> 01:06:26,507
Speaker 2: about Sumer Saunty Takiyaho. You mentioned him before. He's not

1309
01:06:26,707 --> 01:06:31,507
Speaker 2: back until Super Rugby next year, so it'll be Taylor

1310
01:06:31,627 --> 01:06:37,827
Speaker 2: al Moore Bell presumably who go Who's our third ten?

1311
01:06:38,267 --> 01:06:40,867
Speaker 2: Asks James. It's another good question, Jane. Well, I think

1312
01:06:40,867 --> 01:06:47,507
Speaker 2: it's probably Harry Plumber. Stephen Petifetza has been I think

1313
01:06:47,627 --> 01:06:51,027
Speaker 2: is injured. I think he played fall back in the

1314
01:06:51,067 --> 01:06:52,867
Speaker 2: first two tests of the year, and I don't think

1315
01:06:52,907 --> 01:06:55,947
Speaker 2: he's played for the All Blacks since that, not then,

1316
01:06:56,227 --> 01:06:59,187
Speaker 2: not that I can remember, so he obviously can can

1317
01:06:59,267 --> 01:07:01,467
Speaker 2: cover ten as well. I think Howry Plumber is your number, yeah,

1318
01:07:01,467 --> 01:07:05,467
Speaker 2: third number ten at the moment, James, Hello, Phil.

1319
01:07:06,707 --> 01:07:07,387
Speaker 22: Get a pony.

1320
01:07:07,427 --> 01:07:08,307
Speaker 21: How are you good?

1321
01:07:08,387 --> 01:07:08,867
Speaker 2: Thanks mate?

1322
01:07:10,187 --> 01:07:10,947
Speaker 6: Excellent, excellent.

1323
01:07:11,267 --> 01:07:13,747
Speaker 22: Now, I watched the game last night, but I was

1324
01:07:13,867 --> 01:07:16,347
Speaker 22: just saying, Andy, I had too many beers and I

1325
01:07:16,427 --> 01:07:18,147
Speaker 22: can't remember half it. So you're going to have to

1326
01:07:18,187 --> 01:07:19,547
Speaker 22: fill me in a bit because.

1327
01:07:21,387 --> 01:07:23,467
Speaker 2: Well, I won't expect that he had in sightsive analysis

1328
01:07:23,467 --> 01:07:23,747
Speaker 2: from you.

1329
01:07:23,827 --> 01:07:26,347
Speaker 6: Then fill not too much.

1330
01:07:26,427 --> 01:07:28,307
Speaker 22: But I may be able to give a couple because

1331
01:07:28,707 --> 01:07:31,347
Speaker 22: I do remember you know a bit of it from

1332
01:07:31,387 --> 01:07:36,667
Speaker 22: the start, and well, I thought, from what I can remember,

1333
01:07:36,747 --> 01:07:39,067
Speaker 22: I think on the whole it was a better performance

1334
01:07:39,107 --> 01:07:42,067
Speaker 22: from the All Blacks over the game where they didn't

1335
01:07:42,267 --> 01:07:46,067
Speaker 22: lose that they didn't struggle in that last twenty minutes

1336
01:07:46,187 --> 01:07:49,147
Speaker 22: like they have been doing, you know, the shoot off

1337
01:07:49,187 --> 01:07:51,147
Speaker 22: to the big lead and then fade in the last

1338
01:07:51,187 --> 01:07:53,227
Speaker 22: twenty and struggled to score. I don't think they'd done

1339
01:07:53,267 --> 01:07:55,907
Speaker 22: that last night, for I remember right. It was more

1340
01:07:55,947 --> 01:07:57,987
Speaker 22: of a whole performance right to the end of the game,

1341
01:07:58,427 --> 01:08:01,267
Speaker 22: which was good. And I thought it didn't matter that

1342
01:08:01,387 --> 01:08:04,947
Speaker 22: it was a dead rubber because earlier on, you know,

1343
01:08:05,227 --> 01:08:08,267
Speaker 22: Darcy was saying and his talk and that showing that

1344
01:08:08,507 --> 01:08:11,307
Speaker 22: and the people were saying about dead rubber. But I

1345
01:08:11,467 --> 01:08:14,427
Speaker 22: thought that doesn't matter because even though they had lost

1346
01:08:14,467 --> 01:08:18,547
Speaker 22: the Breslow Cup, the Aussies would have if they'd beaten

1347
01:08:19,067 --> 01:08:21,707
Speaker 22: the All Blacks last night, that would have been a

1348
01:08:21,827 --> 01:08:25,467
Speaker 22: huge psychological vantage and their belief and confidence when they

1349
01:08:25,507 --> 01:08:28,627
Speaker 22: came up against them again, or just carrying on in

1350
01:08:28,747 --> 01:08:31,067
Speaker 22: their journey, you know, to progress and get better.

1351
01:08:33,587 --> 01:08:33,707
Speaker 6: Now.

1352
01:08:33,827 --> 01:08:36,787
Speaker 22: What I was also interested in, and this is the

1353
01:08:36,867 --> 01:08:40,227
Speaker 22: bit that I sort of struggling with the memory, was

1354
01:08:40,307 --> 01:08:42,627
Speaker 22: when d mac come on, how did he go? Did

1355
01:08:42,667 --> 01:08:47,187
Speaker 22: he make an impact? Because I believe that we should

1356
01:08:47,387 --> 01:08:52,347
Speaker 22: maybe have a more steady sort of ship runner, you know,

1357
01:08:52,507 --> 01:08:56,787
Speaker 22: in that number them ten position. I listened to John

1358
01:08:56,867 --> 01:08:58,667
Speaker 22: Eels when you had a mine yesterday and I was

1359
01:08:58,707 --> 01:09:00,907
Speaker 22: trying to get through, but I couldn't get through. But

1360
01:09:01,187 --> 01:09:05,147
Speaker 22: he was interesting what he was saying. You could see

1361
01:09:05,147 --> 01:09:06,827
Speaker 22: what he was such a great cat and player on

1362
01:09:06,867 --> 01:09:08,547
Speaker 22: this day by just listening to him in the way

1363
01:09:08,587 --> 01:09:10,867
Speaker 22: he analyzed the game and saying about what you'd done

1364
01:09:10,907 --> 01:09:12,587
Speaker 22: when you were on the field and that sort of thing.

1365
01:09:13,187 --> 01:09:17,907
Speaker 22: But Osborne and Carlos Spencer, sorry, I thought was a

1366
01:09:18,107 --> 01:09:20,787
Speaker 22: good point two when he said that he believed that

1367
01:09:20,907 --> 01:09:23,827
Speaker 22: dmac was probably more asserted of fullback. But the trouble

1368
01:09:23,987 --> 01:09:26,067
Speaker 22: is we've got Jordan who seems to be going really

1369
01:09:26,107 --> 01:09:28,707
Speaker 22: well at fullback as well, who I thought was going

1370
01:09:28,787 --> 01:09:30,187
Speaker 22: to be on the wing for a start, But he's

1371
01:09:30,227 --> 01:09:32,907
Speaker 22: done so well at fullback that maybe that's his position.

1372
01:09:32,987 --> 01:09:34,187
Speaker 22: But I would maybe.

1373
01:09:34,187 --> 01:09:34,747
Speaker 4: Come on with.

1374
01:09:36,267 --> 01:09:39,747
Speaker 22: Demat Is, maybe not start him at number ten, but

1375
01:09:39,867 --> 01:09:41,947
Speaker 22: just bring them on at a number ten as an

1376
01:09:41,987 --> 01:09:45,147
Speaker 22: impact player and maybe start him at fullback. Is we're

1377
01:09:45,147 --> 01:09:48,067
Speaker 22: going to start a menywhere yeah they did that last night.

1378
01:09:48,147 --> 01:09:49,987
Speaker 2: Yeah, to ask you a question for yeah that when

1379
01:09:50,027 --> 01:09:51,507
Speaker 2: he came on last night, he came on and went

1380
01:09:51,547 --> 01:09:55,267
Speaker 2: into first five. Boden Barrett went back to fullback. Will

1381
01:09:55,347 --> 01:09:58,827
Speaker 2: Jordan went out to the right wing. It was it

1382
01:09:59,107 --> 01:10:01,347
Speaker 2: was now who went off? I'm just trying to remember

1383
01:10:02,227 --> 01:10:05,427
Speaker 2: whether it was I think Rico Yowani went off. Yeah,

1384
01:10:05,467 --> 01:10:08,347
Speaker 2: Demat came on into ten. Yeah, they did it. They

1385
01:10:08,387 --> 01:10:14,067
Speaker 2: did a shuffle anyway, and him and Antony Lena Brown

1386
01:10:14,107 --> 01:10:17,947
Speaker 2: went out one to thirteen. I'm just trying to do

1387
01:10:18,027 --> 01:10:20,387
Speaker 2: the maths in my head of who was playing. Well.

1388
01:10:20,507 --> 01:10:23,307
Speaker 2: David Harvilly had come on by that stage as well. Anyway,

1389
01:10:24,307 --> 01:10:27,667
Speaker 2: the yeah, the Damien McKenzie did make a little bit

1390
01:10:27,707 --> 01:10:29,827
Speaker 2: of an impact. He kind of he had a couple

1391
01:10:29,827 --> 01:10:33,107
Speaker 2: of little half breaks and I look, I, as I

1392
01:10:33,147 --> 01:10:35,627
Speaker 2: said before, I think, you know, that may be his

1393
01:10:35,787 --> 01:10:38,947
Speaker 2: role to play. You know, I think he's I'd have

1394
01:10:39,067 --> 01:10:41,347
Speaker 2: him as part of any of any All Blacks twenty three.

1395
01:10:41,827 --> 01:10:44,667
Speaker 2: But the point you make also about having someone who's

1396
01:10:44,667 --> 01:10:46,787
Speaker 2: a bit of a steady hand on the bench is

1397
01:10:47,387 --> 01:10:50,507
Speaker 2: the big conundrum about what you want from your impact players.

1398
01:10:50,867 --> 01:10:53,667
Speaker 2: Do you want somebody who will come on and you know,

1399
01:10:54,507 --> 01:10:58,787
Speaker 2: and I provide a spark if you're behind, or do

1400
01:10:58,827 --> 01:11:00,547
Speaker 2: you want someone who come on and steady the ship

1401
01:11:00,787 --> 01:11:03,027
Speaker 2: if you're already ahead. And of course you can't predict

1402
01:11:03,067 --> 01:11:06,507
Speaker 2: what you'll be ahead or behind, so I gets have

1403
01:11:06,587 --> 01:11:08,627
Speaker 2: to cut your cloth to suit as far as your

1404
01:11:08,627 --> 01:11:12,347
Speaker 2: prediction is concerned. Because Harry Plummer and Damian McKenzie very

1405
01:11:12,387 --> 01:11:17,947
Speaker 2: different players, very different players, you know, but both equally valuable.

1406
01:11:18,387 --> 01:11:20,587
Speaker 2: Thanks Pelt, good to chat. Twenty one away from two.

1407
01:11:21,227 --> 01:11:24,027
Speaker 2: We'll take a break, come back with James mcconey.

1408
01:11:25,307 --> 01:11:26,347
Speaker 4: You be the TMO.

1409
01:11:26,627 --> 01:11:30,907
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1410
01:11:30,987 --> 01:11:35,027
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1411
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1412
01:11:35,907 --> 01:11:38,787
Speaker 2: Be eighteen away from two. What a weekend of sport.

1413
01:11:38,827 --> 01:11:41,107
Speaker 2: It's been on both sides of the Tasman. Lots to

1414
01:11:41,227 --> 01:11:43,747
Speaker 2: chat about and well, when I want to chat sport

1415
01:11:43,787 --> 01:11:47,507
Speaker 2: and normally just ring one number. Sometimes he answers, sometimes

1416
01:11:47,547 --> 01:11:49,867
Speaker 2: he doesn't. But he's here today. James McConney, Hello.

1417
01:11:49,787 --> 01:11:52,547
Speaker 6: Mate, good a poney, always here for your mates.

1418
01:11:53,107 --> 01:11:56,307
Speaker 2: It's good to hear all blacks. Let's start there. What

1419
01:11:56,387 --> 01:11:57,387
Speaker 2: did you make of it last night?

1420
01:11:58,387 --> 01:12:01,147
Speaker 6: Well, it felt like a coach's game to me, you know,

1421
01:12:01,387 --> 01:12:04,587
Speaker 6: making the changes, putting things in place and watching them

1422
01:12:04,627 --> 01:12:07,507
Speaker 6: come to fruition. But I'd like to highlight four players.

1423
01:12:07,547 --> 01:12:11,547
Speaker 6: If I may piny, please, let's start off with Boden Barrett,

1424
01:12:11,987 --> 01:12:15,907
Speaker 6: who looked great at number ten, running the cutter, kicking well,

1425
01:12:16,027 --> 01:12:19,787
Speaker 6: tackling Well's passing game was on point. But I liked

1426
01:12:19,827 --> 01:12:22,427
Speaker 6: it even more when David McKenzie was on the field.

1427
01:12:22,507 --> 01:12:25,547
Speaker 6: So I'm only a double pivot guy if both those

1428
01:12:25,627 --> 01:12:29,307
Speaker 6: pivots can run like the wind. Okay, but I thought

1429
01:12:29,347 --> 01:12:30,467
Speaker 6: Boden was great yourself.

1430
01:12:30,987 --> 01:12:33,107
Speaker 2: Yes, I enjoyed his steady hand.

1431
01:12:33,147 --> 01:12:37,027
Speaker 6: I did. Yeah. And then look, Richie Moongan might return,

1432
01:12:37,227 --> 01:12:39,707
Speaker 6: you know, Harry Godfrey might emerge as a great team soon.

1433
01:12:39,827 --> 01:12:42,667
Speaker 6: He looks the goods doesn't even though he's playing fullback.

1434
01:12:42,747 --> 01:12:45,587
Speaker 6: But for now we've got two great options. So I

1435
01:12:45,707 --> 01:12:48,427
Speaker 6: was just happy for Boden and actually happy for dmac

1436
01:12:48,507 --> 01:12:51,267
Speaker 6: to come on and set up that nice try for Caleb,

1437
01:12:51,347 --> 01:12:54,467
Speaker 6: So that was good. The next one, Wallace a TT

1438
01:12:54,747 --> 01:13:01,427
Speaker 6: I thought was of the match. Unreal. It's just showing

1439
01:13:01,547 --> 01:13:05,227
Speaker 6: his test class, but also the footwork and offloads, and

1440
01:13:05,267 --> 01:13:07,267
Speaker 6: I think I've seen a big goes forward with those

1441
01:13:08,067 --> 01:13:11,187
Speaker 6: dancing feet. You know, maybe Ardie, but he's smaller, right,

1442
01:13:11,267 --> 01:13:14,067
Speaker 6: This is like a big unit up there. Just he

1443
01:13:14,227 --> 01:13:16,427
Speaker 6: looks like he's going to have a long and distinguished

1444
01:13:16,467 --> 01:13:19,267
Speaker 6: Test career, So he was best in show for me.

1445
01:13:19,867 --> 01:13:23,427
Speaker 2: Yeah, and apparently the league scouts are already onto him

1446
01:13:24,387 --> 01:13:26,987
Speaker 2: and you can see why. So yeah, I think New

1447
01:13:27,067 --> 01:13:30,067
Speaker 2: Zealand Rugby would be best advised to lock him up

1448
01:13:30,067 --> 01:13:33,347
Speaker 2: for a little while, not not not literally, but you know,

1449
01:13:33,467 --> 01:13:36,667
Speaker 2: to to give him, give him a new to That

1450
01:13:36,707 --> 01:13:38,227
Speaker 2: would be the right thing to do, to give him

1451
01:13:38,227 --> 01:13:41,907
Speaker 2: a new contract, lock him and Eddie is Yeah, that's right,

1452
01:13:42,227 --> 01:13:42,627
Speaker 2: that's right.

1453
01:13:43,627 --> 01:13:47,587
Speaker 6: Antonine Brown, I thought made a huge impact in midfield

1454
01:13:47,787 --> 01:13:50,427
Speaker 6: is passing the support and vision that they are all elite,

1455
01:13:50,467 --> 01:13:52,507
Speaker 6: but also the bread and butter things, you know, like

1456
01:13:52,587 --> 01:13:56,267
Speaker 6: the ball, security, tackles clean out, providing an option at

1457
01:13:56,307 --> 01:14:01,707
Speaker 6: all times. I reckon that somehow it just feels right

1458
01:14:01,787 --> 01:14:03,147
Speaker 6: when anton is in the mix.

1459
01:14:04,627 --> 01:14:08,467
Speaker 2: He's played every Test the shoe I worked out this morning.

1460
01:14:08,507 --> 01:14:10,667
Speaker 2: He's only started three, including last night, but it's been

1461
01:14:10,667 --> 01:14:12,507
Speaker 2: off the bench in the other six. So he is

1462
01:14:12,587 --> 01:14:15,827
Speaker 2: one of only five players who's been involved in all

1463
01:14:15,947 --> 01:14:18,147
Speaker 2: nine Test matches this year. And I think he does

1464
01:14:18,267 --> 01:14:21,827
Speaker 2: provide a nice security and a bit of glue around

1465
01:14:21,867 --> 01:14:22,267
Speaker 2: this team.

1466
01:14:23,107 --> 01:14:26,227
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's totally He's the glue. He's the dead horse

1467
01:14:26,267 --> 01:14:29,987
Speaker 6: of the team, if you will, But Samkin as well

1468
01:14:30,467 --> 01:14:33,467
Speaker 6: needs he needs his flowers pony. I mean, I think

1469
01:14:33,507 --> 01:14:35,747
Speaker 6: he's one of the greats. He should have been a

1470
01:14:35,747 --> 01:14:38,027
Speaker 6: World Cup winning captain if it wasn't for that pisky

1471
01:14:38,147 --> 01:14:40,587
Speaker 6: red card and a couple of things going, you know,

1472
01:14:40,907 --> 01:14:44,707
Speaker 6: if Jeordie had nailed that kick. But he's captain the

1473
01:14:44,787 --> 01:14:46,907
Speaker 6: All Blacks in an era where all our rivals apart

1474
01:14:46,947 --> 01:14:49,507
Speaker 6: from Australia, have been peeking, so losses were going to

1475
01:14:49,987 --> 01:14:53,947
Speaker 6: a cur but also following on from the goat Richie

1476
01:14:53,987 --> 01:14:57,227
Speaker 6: mccaor like I've said before, I think it's like following

1477
01:14:57,587 --> 01:15:00,947
Speaker 6: Freddie Mercury at Live Aid. So what can you do? Well,

1478
01:15:01,227 --> 01:15:03,387
Speaker 6: you just do the best that you can. And in

1479
01:15:03,507 --> 01:15:06,267
Speaker 6: his case it's defense. That is one half of the game,

1480
01:15:06,507 --> 01:15:08,507
Speaker 6: and I think he's been the best at that and

1481
01:15:08,587 --> 01:15:10,907
Speaker 6: another quarter of the game the breakdown. So I mean

1482
01:15:11,347 --> 01:15:14,827
Speaker 6: you can't fault his work there, especially cleaning rucks. He

1483
01:15:14,907 --> 01:15:18,147
Speaker 6: attends so many breakdowns, so I think he's made others

1484
01:15:18,187 --> 01:15:21,227
Speaker 6: look better and that's probably one of the great things

1485
01:15:21,227 --> 01:15:23,587
Speaker 6: about him. And it does sound even Raiser was saying

1486
01:15:23,947 --> 01:15:26,907
Speaker 6: that his leadership is important he's a sheriff, he's a

1487
01:15:26,987 --> 01:15:31,387
Speaker 6: straight shooter, and I think the All Blacks have needed them.

1488
01:15:31,507 --> 01:15:33,387
Speaker 6: He just didn't get the ultimate reward of a World

1489
01:15:33,387 --> 01:15:33,787
Speaker 6: Cup win.

1490
01:15:34,387 --> 01:15:36,947
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very good point, and I think, yeah,

1491
01:15:37,027 --> 01:15:39,827
Speaker 2: Raz has made that point. He didn't know Sam Kane. Well,

1492
01:15:39,907 --> 01:15:41,867
Speaker 2: of course he didn't before he came into the All Blacks,

1493
01:15:41,867 --> 01:15:43,747
Speaker 2: but he says he's learned a lot about him and

1494
01:15:43,787 --> 01:15:46,547
Speaker 2: gained enormous respect. And you can tell how much the

1495
01:15:46,627 --> 01:15:49,627
Speaker 2: players there respect him. I do note though, that in

1496
01:15:49,667 --> 01:15:51,347
Speaker 2: the players you've mentioned, most of them are chiefs.

1497
01:15:53,067 --> 01:15:53,987
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's right.

1498
01:15:54,107 --> 01:15:57,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you didn't even mention too. I thought it

1499
01:15:57,347 --> 01:15:57,747
Speaker 2: was good too.

1500
01:15:58,147 --> 01:16:00,867
Speaker 6: How good is his skill set? Just setting things up? Well,

1501
01:16:00,907 --> 01:16:03,147
Speaker 6: that's why I put myself on a four chief limit.

1502
01:16:03,627 --> 01:16:05,907
Speaker 6: So I've reached my closure, I think.

1503
01:16:06,747 --> 01:16:10,587
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, sorry too, well, sorry Cortez, Sorry Luke Jacobson.

1504
01:16:10,867 --> 01:16:13,947
Speaker 2: You you'ren't going to mention today, but maybe next.

1505
01:16:13,787 --> 01:16:14,347
Speaker 13: Week you will.

1506
01:16:15,067 --> 01:16:18,027
Speaker 6: Yeah, imagine if I started mentioning the undersized Chiefs. You

1507
01:16:18,107 --> 01:16:19,827
Speaker 6: know we'll be here all night?

1508
01:16:20,867 --> 01:16:21,067
Speaker 2: Can we?

1509
01:16:21,227 --> 01:16:21,387
Speaker 6: Can?

1510
01:16:21,427 --> 01:16:21,467
Speaker 23: We?

1511
01:16:22,387 --> 01:16:23,787
Speaker 2: Do you want to anything more than the All Blacks?

1512
01:16:23,787 --> 01:16:23,827
Speaker 23: Do?

1513
01:16:23,827 --> 01:16:25,027
Speaker 2: I want to ask about Liam Lawson?

1514
01:16:25,707 --> 01:16:26,947
Speaker 6: Yeah? Liam Lawson let's go.

1515
01:16:28,507 --> 01:16:31,387
Speaker 2: Well, we just had we just had a Eric Thompson

1516
01:16:31,427 --> 01:16:33,627
Speaker 2: on before. I just worry because Red Bulls seemed like

1517
01:16:33,667 --> 01:16:36,147
Speaker 2: the kind of organization that you know, might just cheer

1518
01:16:36,187 --> 01:16:37,907
Speaker 2: you up and spit you out. But he seems like

1519
01:16:37,947 --> 01:16:40,547
Speaker 2: a fairly level headed chap. Liam Lawson, you reckon, it'll

1520
01:16:40,587 --> 01:16:40,947
Speaker 2: be okay.

1521
01:16:42,067 --> 01:16:44,107
Speaker 6: Well that's what I'm the only thing I'm worried about,

1522
01:16:44,107 --> 01:16:45,947
Speaker 6: I think. I mean, he's been rewarded for his talent,

1523
01:16:46,067 --> 01:16:48,827
Speaker 6: not his connections. Although I feel like being from Pocacoee

1524
01:16:48,987 --> 01:16:51,547
Speaker 6: or South Auckland, there's a bit like going to Duke

1525
01:16:51,667 --> 01:16:54,267
Speaker 6: University before getting into the NBA. You know, it's motor

1526
01:16:54,347 --> 01:16:59,547
Speaker 6: racing central, it's nursery. But I remember him being run

1527
01:16:59,587 --> 01:17:01,787
Speaker 6: off the road by that South African driver when he

1528
01:17:01,867 --> 01:17:04,507
Speaker 6: was about to win the European Touring Car Champs, and

1529
01:17:05,707 --> 01:17:07,987
Speaker 6: and he he flew off the handle, and I was

1530
01:17:08,027 --> 01:17:10,987
Speaker 6: happy for him to actually fire up and tell him

1531
01:17:11,027 --> 01:17:13,147
Speaker 6: that it was dirty pool. And I think he's going

1532
01:17:13,187 --> 01:17:15,867
Speaker 6: to be prepared to stand his ground in Formula one

1533
01:17:15,907 --> 01:17:19,267
Speaker 6: because I think the biggest problem with Brendan Hartley, another

1534
01:17:19,387 --> 01:17:22,907
Speaker 6: lovely bloke, is that he was constantly tormented and bullied

1535
01:17:22,947 --> 01:17:27,107
Speaker 6: by his team teammate Pierre Ghastly and can you remember that.

1536
01:17:27,187 --> 01:17:29,667
Speaker 2: Ponty, Yes, yes, I remember it.

1537
01:17:29,747 --> 01:17:33,827
Speaker 6: Well. Yeah, And Ghastly is an appropriate name because he

1538
01:17:33,987 --> 01:17:36,867
Speaker 6: Gasly was gaslighting Hartley the whole time, accusing him of

1539
01:17:37,267 --> 01:17:39,867
Speaker 6: almost killing him when Hartley stalled on the track once

1540
01:17:39,907 --> 01:17:41,667
Speaker 6: and he had to swerve to miss him, and he

1541
01:17:41,907 --> 01:17:44,747
Speaker 6: gave this emotional press conference. He didn't even touch the

1542
01:17:44,827 --> 01:17:47,707
Speaker 6: guy and it was like he was going I thought

1543
01:17:47,747 --> 01:17:51,547
Speaker 6: I was going to die. So Ghastly is the massive tossa.

1544
01:17:52,027 --> 01:17:55,467
Speaker 6: So I hope that Lawson beats him for starters and

1545
01:17:55,587 --> 01:17:57,867
Speaker 6: also confronts anyone who tries to give him any of

1546
01:17:57,947 --> 01:18:01,307
Speaker 6: those that sort of shenanigans.

1547
01:18:01,827 --> 01:18:04,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just can't wait. Yeah, absolutely, it seems like

1548
01:18:04,747 --> 01:18:07,787
Speaker 2: a sport of massive goes to me. But Liam Lawson

1549
01:18:07,827 --> 01:18:11,267
Speaker 2: seems to be without one, whether you know, whether it's

1550
01:18:11,387 --> 01:18:13,827
Speaker 2: it's you know, comes across as a quite confidence more

1551
01:18:13,867 --> 01:18:16,467
Speaker 2: than anything. I mean, I get the feeling he's he's

1552
01:18:16,507 --> 01:18:18,587
Speaker 2: got a bit about him. But yeah, there's a lot

1553
01:18:18,627 --> 01:18:20,667
Speaker 2: of egos by the looks of it, and formula one

1554
01:18:20,667 --> 01:18:23,067
Speaker 2: and I guess, you know, I guess maybe that's part

1555
01:18:23,067 --> 01:18:26,387
Speaker 2: of reaching the top. I'm not sure Hey, NRL. The

1556
01:18:26,467 --> 01:18:28,947
Speaker 2: Storm hammered the Roosters, the Panthers took a bit longer

1557
01:18:29,067 --> 01:18:32,147
Speaker 2: to succumb the Sharks. But we've got the Grand Final

1558
01:18:32,187 --> 01:18:33,387
Speaker 2: we all wanted, haven't we.

1559
01:18:34,427 --> 01:18:37,707
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's the blockbuster Final. There's a lot to like.

1560
01:18:37,787 --> 01:18:39,707
Speaker 6: I always love it when there's key is everywhere, and

1561
01:18:39,827 --> 01:18:44,307
Speaker 6: of course plenty in the Melbourne Storm. Watching Elika tour

1562
01:18:44,467 --> 01:18:47,867
Speaker 6: is quite triggering for me seeing a former warrior do

1563
01:18:48,067 --> 01:18:50,427
Speaker 6: so well. But sometimes you know that that change of

1564
01:18:50,467 --> 01:18:53,147
Speaker 6: scenery was what was needed for their career. It's a

1565
01:18:53,187 --> 01:18:57,387
Speaker 6: bit like Malacofkutur going down to the Highlanders. You know,

1566
01:18:57,587 --> 01:19:00,147
Speaker 6: you just know that they needed that change of scenery

1567
01:19:00,227 --> 01:19:04,547
Speaker 6: to reach that peak. But having said that, jar Ounes

1568
01:19:04,627 --> 01:19:10,947
Speaker 6: hughes against Nathan, I mean that is just, you know, tantalizing,

1569
01:19:11,027 --> 01:19:11,307
Speaker 6: isn't it?

1570
01:19:11,707 --> 01:19:14,307
Speaker 2: Absolutely mouth watering. Yeah, you can't wait for that. So

1571
01:19:14,427 --> 01:19:18,187
Speaker 2: that's next Sunday. So week tonight the NRL Grand Final.

1572
01:19:18,267 --> 01:19:22,587
Speaker 2: But yesterday the AFL Grand Final at the g the

1573
01:19:22,827 --> 01:19:25,147
Speaker 2: iconic Melbourne Cricket Ground. Did you get eyes on this?

1574
01:19:26,427 --> 01:19:29,067
Speaker 6: Yes I did. It was an absolute blowout win to Brisbane,

1575
01:19:29,307 --> 01:19:32,067
Speaker 6: and of course that is a problem because it was

1576
01:19:32,147 --> 01:19:35,547
Speaker 6: Brisbane versus Sydney. So sports like rugby, it's a bit

1577
01:19:35,547 --> 01:19:38,947
Speaker 6: of a dagger for them having two of those two

1578
01:19:38,987 --> 01:19:43,107
Speaker 6: of those cities represented in an AFL final. However, Sydney

1579
01:19:43,227 --> 01:19:46,547
Speaker 6: was spent by I think sixty points or something like that.

1580
01:19:46,627 --> 01:19:50,667
Speaker 6: It was crazy that. I think maybe they might turn

1581
01:19:50,987 --> 01:19:54,547
Speaker 6: back to the rugby codes after that. But the one

1582
01:19:54,587 --> 01:19:56,947
Speaker 6: thing I did want to raise was Katie Perry and

1583
01:19:57,627 --> 01:20:00,747
Speaker 6: look piney. She was pretty good in the pregame show.

1584
01:20:00,867 --> 01:20:03,947
Speaker 6: Awesome voice, didn't seem like it was totally lipstick. She

1585
01:20:04,067 --> 01:20:07,307
Speaker 6: wasn't doing the Milli Vanelli or anything on her paylist.

1586
01:20:07,387 --> 01:20:12,227
Speaker 6: She sang raw, great song, she sang firework, absolute banger,

1587
01:20:12,867 --> 01:20:16,107
Speaker 6: and she even sang California Girls. You know, but where

1588
01:20:16,947 --> 01:20:19,667
Speaker 6: where it was hot and cold. I've got to ask

1589
01:20:19,787 --> 01:20:26,147
Speaker 6: you the song it relates to sport and as a

1590
01:20:26,387 --> 01:20:29,947
Speaker 6: massive hit, it is an absolute banger. And you don't

1591
01:20:29,987 --> 01:20:32,987
Speaker 6: go out there and sing one of your unknown recent songs,

1592
01:20:33,027 --> 01:20:35,067
Speaker 6: which she did, and you lead out a hit like

1593
01:20:35,147 --> 01:20:38,827
Speaker 6: that that is not on brief. Kadie, stick to the brief.

1594
01:20:39,947 --> 01:20:43,867
Speaker 2: Yes, the brief was banger's hoding, wasn't it. I think

1595
01:20:43,947 --> 01:20:46,187
Speaker 2: she would have gone away with one. Yeah, beggars only

1596
01:20:46,467 --> 01:20:47,147
Speaker 2: hot and cold?

1597
01:20:47,227 --> 01:20:47,707
Speaker 4: Where are you?

1598
01:20:48,587 --> 01:20:50,827
Speaker 6: Where are you to listen to this? I mean it's

1599
01:20:50,987 --> 01:20:58,827
Speaker 6: one of the great Just come of soon if you'll

1600
01:20:58,867 --> 01:21:01,227
Speaker 6: allow a pony, thank you for having me today.

1601
01:21:01,347 --> 01:21:03,387
Speaker 2: Good on you, James. Hold there, Let's listen to this

1602
01:21:03,987 --> 01:21:08,627
Speaker 2: banger of a chorus for a bit. It's coming. So

1603
01:21:08,747 --> 01:21:10,627
Speaker 2: that would have worked well if the chorus actually came.

1604
01:21:10,907 --> 01:21:12,587
Speaker 2: I think it's coming now Here it goes.

1605
01:21:44,347 --> 01:21:46,587
Speaker 4: When it's down to the line. You made a call

1606
01:21:46,787 --> 01:21:50,547
Speaker 4: on eight hundred eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason

1607
01:21:50,627 --> 01:21:51,947
Speaker 4: Hine News Talks.

1608
01:21:51,747 --> 01:21:54,467
Speaker 2: MB five to two. Interesting text through here. I think

1609
01:21:54,467 --> 01:21:56,427
Speaker 2: it's a shame it says that Liam has locked him

1610
01:21:56,427 --> 01:21:59,787
Speaker 2: with Red Bull. I believe the team is imploding Christian issues.

1611
01:21:59,827 --> 01:22:02,747
Speaker 2: That's Christian Horner. Of course, the step and agitation and

1612
01:22:02,907 --> 01:22:06,707
Speaker 2: father influence key team members bailing. Although they are brand

1613
01:22:06,787 --> 01:22:09,027
Speaker 2: is still strong, it's a brand that needs to evolve.

1614
01:22:09,187 --> 01:22:12,427
Speaker 2: I think energy drinks are in decline. You consumers want

1615
01:22:12,507 --> 01:22:16,347
Speaker 2: better for you options be very much in the coke camp,

1616
01:22:16,747 --> 01:22:20,587
Speaker 2: which is a struggle with savvy, health centric consumers. I'd

1617
01:22:20,627 --> 01:22:23,387
Speaker 2: love to see Liam join a more progressive and collaborative

1618
01:22:23,427 --> 01:22:27,267
Speaker 2: team like Zach's team Zack Brown. Of course McLaren ceo

1619
01:22:27,907 --> 01:22:30,907
Speaker 2: their interesting thoughts. Thank you for sending them through. I

1620
01:22:30,987 --> 01:22:33,987
Speaker 2: guess you're taking f one seat if it's offered to you.

1621
01:22:34,147 --> 01:22:38,387
Speaker 2: But yeah, Liam can find some success which buys some

1622
01:22:39,067 --> 01:22:42,667
Speaker 2: perhaps the freedom to choose in the years ahead, then yeah,

1623
01:22:42,667 --> 01:22:44,667
Speaker 2: who knows what that might look like, but yeah, looking

1624
01:22:44,707 --> 01:22:47,547
Speaker 2: forward to seeing Liam Lawson race Formula one in three

1625
01:22:47,587 --> 01:22:50,907
Speaker 2: weeks from now at the American Grand Prix. After two o'clock,

1626
01:22:50,907 --> 01:22:53,547
Speaker 2: going to mix it up for you. Bit of netball

1627
01:22:53,587 --> 01:22:57,147
Speaker 2: Silver Fern Kelly Jackson on the show Breakers play tonight.

1628
01:22:57,187 --> 01:22:58,907
Speaker 2: Mitch McCarron had of the Breakers camp ahead of their

1629
01:22:58,907 --> 01:23:01,547
Speaker 2: game against the Southeast Melbourne Phoenix will wrap the overnight

1630
01:23:01,587 --> 01:23:04,227
Speaker 2: action in Barcelona. Even though they didn't get a race done,

1631
01:23:04,587 --> 01:23:07,147
Speaker 2: there was quite a bit of on Water and the

1632
01:23:07,147 --> 01:23:10,707
Speaker 2: Black Ferns tomorrow play Ireland in WXV one. Assistant coach

1633
01:23:10,787 --> 01:23:11,467
Speaker 2: Mike Delaney with.

1634
01:23:11,507 --> 01:23:17,227
Speaker 1: Us the only plays for the big names, the big issues,

1635
01:23:18,027 --> 01:23:22,907
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1636
01:23:23,067 --> 01:23:27,507
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your Home of Sport News.

1637
01:23:27,627 --> 01:23:28,427
Speaker 4: Talks had been.

1638
01:23:30,387 --> 01:23:33,267
Speaker 2: At SUS six past two. North Harbor of scored a

1639
01:23:33,307 --> 01:23:36,907
Speaker 2: try against Canterbury inside the first seventy seconds of their game.

1640
01:23:37,027 --> 01:23:42,187
Speaker 2: Up at Albany five nil. They lead Harbor and what

1641
01:23:42,307 --> 01:23:45,907
Speaker 2: I mean is Lort Harbor leed Canterbrin. So yeah, one

1642
01:23:45,907 --> 01:23:49,387
Speaker 2: of the first passages of the game and Canterbury's defense

1643
01:23:49,387 --> 01:23:51,187
Speaker 2: has opened up like a bit of a lace curtain

1644
01:23:51,507 --> 01:23:54,787
Speaker 2: for North Harbor to wander through and score a try there.

1645
01:23:54,787 --> 01:23:57,067
Speaker 2: So we'll keep eyes on that for you across the

1646
01:23:57,347 --> 01:24:00,387
Speaker 2: next hour or so. Also this hour inside the Silver

1647
01:24:00,467 --> 01:24:02,827
Speaker 2: Ferns camp. They play England tonight, first test of the

1648
01:24:03,187 --> 01:24:06,827
Speaker 2: Tiny Jamison Trophy Series Trusseerena. Kelly Jackson any buy for

1649
01:24:06,867 --> 01:24:09,947
Speaker 2: a chat? Speaking of sports, where you put the ball

1650
01:24:09,987 --> 01:24:12,307
Speaker 2: on the hoop? The Breakers played tonight It's Park Arena

1651
01:24:12,667 --> 01:24:16,227
Speaker 2: against the Southeast Melbourne Phoenix. Mitch mccaron is one of

1652
01:24:16,267 --> 01:24:19,467
Speaker 2: their new players, the experienced Australian guard. He's going to

1653
01:24:19,467 --> 01:24:22,147
Speaker 2: have a yarn to us. Mike Delaney's along, the assistant

1654
01:24:22,227 --> 01:24:25,067
Speaker 2: coach of the Black Ferns. They play Ireland tomorrow in

1655
01:24:25,267 --> 01:24:28,707
Speaker 2: WXV one three o'clock tomorrow afternoon our time in Vancouver

1656
01:24:29,307 --> 01:24:34,227
Speaker 2: and overnight racing in the America's Cup Challenger series was

1657
01:24:34,347 --> 01:24:37,307
Speaker 2: timed out because of a lack of breeze, but there

1658
01:24:37,387 --> 01:24:40,667
Speaker 2: was still some interesting goings on on the water while

1659
01:24:40,667 --> 01:24:42,347
Speaker 2: they were out there. Christie are going to join us

1660
01:24:42,347 --> 01:24:44,827
Speaker 2: to talk about that. You can get through to us

1661
01:24:44,827 --> 01:24:47,467
Speaker 2: at any time on text nine two nine two or

1662
01:24:47,547 --> 01:24:49,747
Speaker 2: on the phone are eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1663
01:24:50,347 --> 01:24:52,907
Speaker 2: But as we approach eight past two, as we always

1664
01:24:52,947 --> 01:24:55,667
Speaker 2: do it around about this time on weekend, Sport like

1665
01:24:55,747 --> 01:24:58,547
Speaker 2: to roll the rocky music and bring you up to

1666
01:24:58,627 --> 01:25:00,187
Speaker 2: date with some of the stuff you might have missed.

1667
01:25:00,187 --> 01:25:03,947
Speaker 2: It's called in Cash Mister, put together every Saturday and

1668
01:25:04,027 --> 01:25:07,907
Speaker 2: Sunday by Annie McDonald, and he started with yesterday's AFL

1669
01:25:08,027 --> 01:25:11,307
Speaker 2: Grand Final at the Melbourne Cricket Grounds, a very one

1670
01:25:11,467 --> 01:25:16,547
Speaker 2: sided affair which ended as as Brisbane fans hoped it would,

1671
01:25:16,987 --> 01:25:20,307
Speaker 2: with the Brisbane Lines becoming AFL champions, all the big

1672
01:25:20,427 --> 01:25:26,347
Speaker 2: names be deadaher, the final stamp on the day and.

1673
01:25:26,987 --> 01:25:31,587
Speaker 3: The lines of court lightning in a bottles brought.

1674
01:25:31,427 --> 01:25:34,587
Speaker 2: An absolute hiding one hundred and twenty points to sixty.

1675
01:25:35,307 --> 01:25:38,307
Speaker 2: They beat the Sydney Swans. Staying in Australia, the Penrith

1676
01:25:38,347 --> 01:25:42,267
Speaker 2: Panthers are into the NRL Final in a bid to

1677
01:25:42,347 --> 01:25:45,147
Speaker 2: win a fourth straight championship.

1678
01:25:45,387 --> 01:25:50,547
Speaker 3: Israeli the right word kick Martinis and exclamation mark for

1679
01:25:50,667 --> 01:25:52,187
Speaker 3: the Panthers as they.

1680
01:25:52,267 --> 01:25:55,987
Speaker 15: March on till the first Sunday dead October.

1681
01:25:55,747 --> 01:25:58,227
Speaker 2: At twenty six six, the Panthers winning last night. Only

1682
01:25:58,387 --> 01:26:02,187
Speaker 2: two teams have ever won four straight titles, the Rabbitos

1683
01:26:02,587 --> 01:26:06,067
Speaker 2: who won five between nineteen twenty five and nineteen twenty nine,

1684
01:26:06,547 --> 01:26:08,907
Speaker 2: and that famous and George side that won eleven in

1685
01:26:08,947 --> 01:26:11,987
Speaker 2: a row from nineteen fifty six to nineteen sixty six.

1686
01:26:12,067 --> 01:26:15,187
Speaker 2: Penrith could go four in a line if they beat

1687
01:26:15,227 --> 01:26:18,427
Speaker 2: the Melbourne Storm next weekend, which I'm not sure they'd

1688
01:26:18,467 --> 01:26:20,507
Speaker 2: be favorite to do, but what a grand final and

1689
01:26:20,547 --> 01:26:23,907
Speaker 2: prospect to the Premier League. Chelsea beat Brighton four to

1690
01:26:23,987 --> 01:26:27,427
Speaker 2: two overnight and Cole Palmer got all four goals given

1691
01:26:27,467 --> 01:26:30,467
Speaker 2: away cheap two once more, Sancho.

1692
01:26:35,907 --> 01:26:36,867
Speaker 15: It's not even March.

1693
01:26:37,907 --> 01:26:40,387
Speaker 2: Extraordinary four goals in the first half of Cole Palmer.

1694
01:26:40,427 --> 01:26:44,107
Speaker 2: Liverpool meantime top of the table for the meantime It's

1695
01:26:44,187 --> 01:26:45,347
Speaker 2: Salar against Johnston.

1696
01:26:45,467 --> 01:26:49,587
Speaker 3: No problem here, Liverpool back ahead in the blink of

1697
01:26:49,667 --> 01:26:49,987
Speaker 3: an eye.

1698
01:26:52,107 --> 01:26:56,387
Speaker 18: No sooner had parity been restored at Liverpool find the

1699
01:26:56,467 --> 01:26:57,227
Speaker 18: way once more.

1700
01:26:57,587 --> 01:27:01,347
Speaker 2: I've held off until ten past two have mentioned them,

1701
01:27:01,387 --> 01:27:05,627
Speaker 2: but the black Caps utterly dismal and gaul yesterday.

1702
01:27:06,427 --> 01:27:09,427
Speaker 4: Boards beautifully balled.

1703
01:27:09,507 --> 01:27:16,547
Speaker 2: The speed, the trajectory was outstanding. To see you little

1704
01:27:16,667 --> 01:27:18,307
Speaker 2: satiner has it apart.

1705
01:27:18,627 --> 01:27:22,347
Speaker 5: Top scores are Something's twenty nine bold, they're spurious.

1706
01:27:22,907 --> 01:27:26,627
Speaker 2: Zil and all out for eighty eight eighty eight and

1707
01:27:26,747 --> 01:27:29,067
Speaker 2: the spring Box have added to their growing trophy.

1708
01:27:29,147 --> 01:27:36,067
Speaker 24: Cabinets tell us for thetor tenist have to toy it

1709
01:27:36,187 --> 01:27:41,947
Speaker 24: gets a second in a bombetta and they are running amok.

1710
01:27:42,067 --> 01:27:46,067
Speaker 1: Now the scoop from the track field and the court

1711
01:27:46,307 --> 01:27:50,907
Speaker 1: on your home of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason Vine talks.

1712
01:27:50,667 --> 01:27:53,667
Speaker 2: In me eleven past two. A busy few weeks coming

1713
01:27:53,747 --> 01:27:55,827
Speaker 2: up for the silver Ferns New Zealand on the edge

1714
01:27:55,827 --> 01:27:56,467
Speaker 2: of the circle.

1715
01:27:58,627 --> 01:28:08,587
Speaker 25: This to draw it level twenty seconds on the clock. Yes,

1716
01:28:11,107 --> 01:28:15,267
Speaker 25: the profominal, the moment that's going to take England into

1717
01:28:15,347 --> 01:28:19,387
Speaker 25: a rematch of the Netball World Cup final tomorrow against Australia.

1718
01:28:20,947 --> 01:28:27,027
Speaker 25: Eveland beat New Zealand by fifty and gold to fifty seven.

1719
01:28:27,227 --> 01:28:29,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the nation's Cup earlier in the year.

1720
01:28:29,987 --> 01:28:33,827
Speaker 2: The silver Ferns against England. They'll resume hostilities in the

1721
01:28:33,907 --> 01:28:37,467
Speaker 2: three game Tiny Jamison Trophy series tonight at Trust's Arena,

1722
01:28:37,587 --> 01:28:39,907
Speaker 2: Game two and Potty to Our Wednesday night, and game

1723
01:28:39,987 --> 01:28:43,587
Speaker 2: three in the Cargo next Sunday. The Silver Ferns then

1724
01:28:43,627 --> 01:28:45,787
Speaker 2: have a two week turnaround before beginning the four test

1725
01:28:45,907 --> 01:28:49,667
Speaker 2: series against the Australian Diamonds for the Constellation Cup. Match

1726
01:28:49,747 --> 01:28:52,507
Speaker 2: one of that series is on the twentieth of October

1727
01:28:52,667 --> 01:28:56,387
Speaker 2: in Wellington. Let's bring in Silver Ferns defender Kelly Jackson.

1728
01:28:56,787 --> 01:28:59,747
Speaker 2: Kelly her Dame Noline Todua during the week say that

1729
01:28:59,947 --> 01:29:03,427
Speaker 2: last week was the best camp that she's ever overseen

1730
01:29:03,507 --> 01:29:05,827
Speaker 2: as head coach of the Silver Ferns. So how's the

1731
01:29:05,867 --> 01:29:07,547
Speaker 2: built up from the player's point of view.

1732
01:29:09,227 --> 01:29:11,307
Speaker 20: Yeah, we'll always get to hear that sort of feedback

1733
01:29:11,387 --> 01:29:16,067
Speaker 20: coming from no Leaf. So yeah, we've really pressed and

1734
01:29:16,147 --> 01:29:18,747
Speaker 20: peppy with our build up so far. We had a

1735
01:29:18,947 --> 01:29:20,867
Speaker 20: week in NPR last week and came to here there

1736
01:29:20,947 --> 01:29:23,507
Speaker 20: a few days ago here up in Auckland, so you

1737
01:29:23,667 --> 01:29:27,387
Speaker 20: were really feeling primed ready to go and just know

1738
01:29:27,507 --> 01:29:28,907
Speaker 20: what we've got to do out there tonight.

1739
01:29:29,347 --> 01:29:30,667
Speaker 2: So this is the first time the Ferns have been

1740
01:29:30,747 --> 01:29:33,627
Speaker 2: together since the Nation's Cup in the UK back in January.

1741
01:29:34,187 --> 01:29:36,707
Speaker 2: Have you managed to mesh together again fairly quickly?

1742
01:29:38,267 --> 01:29:40,027
Speaker 20: You know what, the majority of us, we've all played

1743
01:29:40,427 --> 01:29:43,867
Speaker 20: together a lot. There's a few movies obviously, with the

1744
01:29:44,107 --> 01:29:48,427
Speaker 20: likes of Paris and Clara O'Brian and likely Abies tonight,

1745
01:29:48,627 --> 01:29:51,347
Speaker 20: So just really important to bring them to the fold

1746
01:29:51,427 --> 01:29:54,267
Speaker 20: so they know what we're all about and our processes here.

1747
01:29:54,347 --> 01:29:56,547
Speaker 20: But yeah, Janry does feel a little while away, but

1748
01:29:57,107 --> 01:29:58,667
Speaker 20: we've played a lot of netbor since then.

1749
01:29:59,027 --> 01:30:01,427
Speaker 2: How do you go about integrating new players into the

1750
01:30:01,667 --> 01:30:03,507
Speaker 2: Silver Ferns. What are the key parts of that?

1751
01:30:05,547 --> 01:30:08,347
Speaker 20: Well, I guess you've kind of a treat it as

1752
01:30:08,507 --> 01:30:12,267
Speaker 20: like everyone doesn't know anything and to reteach at all

1753
01:30:12,347 --> 01:30:15,147
Speaker 20: and start from zero. I guess that's a technical We've

1754
01:30:15,147 --> 01:30:19,827
Speaker 20: approached technics, have views to approach it this year, and

1755
01:30:19,987 --> 01:30:22,747
Speaker 20: so far it's working. I think everyone's got real calady.

1756
01:30:23,107 --> 01:30:29,787
Speaker 20: You know, we've had zones nearly every day about nutrition, scientology,

1757
01:30:30,107 --> 01:30:32,467
Speaker 20: all those kinds of things that are really important and

1758
01:30:32,587 --> 01:30:34,147
Speaker 20: controvert to the on kore performance.

1759
01:30:34,627 --> 01:30:37,267
Speaker 2: One of you more experienced, though appliers, though, fellow defender

1760
01:30:37,307 --> 01:30:40,427
Speaker 2: Foenix Kataka won't be playing. She's been ruled out after

1761
01:30:40,507 --> 01:30:42,987
Speaker 2: failing to recover from illness. How much of a blow

1762
01:30:43,107 --> 01:30:43,747
Speaker 2: is that to the team?

1763
01:30:44,787 --> 01:30:47,627
Speaker 20: Yeah, really gunned for Fee and me personally. I've played

1764
01:30:47,627 --> 01:30:50,347
Speaker 20: a lot of net work and the fern's rest alongside Tea.

1765
01:30:51,427 --> 01:30:54,067
Speaker 20: But you know, it gives the opportunity to opportunity to

1766
01:30:54,267 --> 01:30:56,907
Speaker 20: Edna who's been called in and they'll be exciting to

1767
01:30:56,947 --> 01:30:57,947
Speaker 20: see her out there tonight.

1768
01:30:58,387 --> 01:31:01,187
Speaker 2: Last time we played England, it was just a solitary

1769
01:31:01,267 --> 01:31:04,107
Speaker 2: goal that separated you a loss by that single goal

1770
01:31:04,227 --> 01:31:06,027
Speaker 2: back in January. Do you feel as though this series

1771
01:31:06,107 --> 01:31:06,987
Speaker 2: is going to be pretty given.

1772
01:31:08,027 --> 01:31:11,547
Speaker 20: Yeah, we have some great matches against England in the

1773
01:31:11,667 --> 01:31:13,907
Speaker 20: last two years. I've always come down to the wire

1774
01:31:13,987 --> 01:31:16,707
Speaker 20: and our last matchup we've only lost, though one was

1775
01:31:16,827 --> 01:31:20,907
Speaker 20: so close, and so we know that this series will

1776
01:31:20,947 --> 01:31:23,827
Speaker 20: be another tough test. And they've just come off of

1777
01:31:23,907 --> 01:31:27,147
Speaker 20: the series games Bozzie where they had some good games

1778
01:31:27,187 --> 01:31:29,907
Speaker 20: over there, so they'll be ready and they've had that

1779
01:31:30,027 --> 01:31:33,107
Speaker 20: time extra time to tell in terms of on.

1780
01:31:33,227 --> 01:31:36,587
Speaker 2: Court play as a defensive group, Kelly, how much of

1781
01:31:36,667 --> 01:31:40,227
Speaker 2: your own prep is focused on some detailed analysis of

1782
01:31:40,867 --> 01:31:42,867
Speaker 2: how England will operate? In the shooting circle.

1783
01:31:44,467 --> 01:31:46,547
Speaker 20: Yeah, so we put in a few hours work of

1784
01:31:46,987 --> 01:31:50,867
Speaker 20: analyzing the opposition and both as a defensive unit, as

1785
01:31:50,907 --> 01:31:54,547
Speaker 20: a team and as individuals. That's always expected of you

1786
01:31:54,707 --> 01:31:57,227
Speaker 20: to go away and do your homework, so you go

1787
01:31:57,347 --> 01:31:58,747
Speaker 20: out there and there's no surprises.

1788
01:31:59,107 --> 01:32:02,027
Speaker 2: So beyond the tiny Jameson Trophy, it's the Constellation Cup

1789
01:32:02,147 --> 01:32:05,667
Speaker 2: series against Australia. You won both home matches in that

1790
01:32:05,787 --> 01:32:08,947
Speaker 2: four gameses last year after Australia won the first two

1791
01:32:08,947 --> 01:32:10,227
Speaker 2: over there? Do you feel this that's going to be

1792
01:32:10,267 --> 01:32:13,467
Speaker 2: a fairly competitive Constellation Cup Series again this year too?

1793
01:32:14,147 --> 01:32:17,547
Speaker 20: Absolutely, and I think we're feeling really confident just after

1794
01:32:17,547 --> 01:32:20,787
Speaker 20: the last couple of weeks in this environment. So hopefully

1795
01:32:20,827 --> 01:32:23,307
Speaker 20: once we tick off this series, we'll fully focused on

1796
01:32:23,427 --> 01:32:26,827
Speaker 20: Australia and the extra wind. You know, we've walked away

1797
01:32:27,187 --> 01:32:29,227
Speaker 20: to all for the last two years, so we'll be

1798
01:32:29,347 --> 01:32:31,507
Speaker 20: coat to get that first match under our belt and.

1799
01:32:31,587 --> 01:32:34,107
Speaker 2: These will be the final few tests before Grace Wiki

1800
01:32:34,307 --> 01:32:37,427
Speaker 2: heads to Australia to play her domestic netball next year.

1801
01:32:37,507 --> 01:32:40,347
Speaker 2: That will make her ineligible for the Silver Ferns in

1802
01:32:40,427 --> 01:32:43,947
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. It's probably a silly question, but how

1803
01:32:43,987 --> 01:32:45,867
Speaker 2: big a loss. Is that going to be for you?

1804
01:32:47,147 --> 01:32:49,347
Speaker 20: She's definitely a rock down that shoting end for us.

1805
01:32:49,507 --> 01:32:52,867
Speaker 20: She's an incredible player and athlete and contract so much

1806
01:32:52,907 --> 01:32:54,707
Speaker 20: to this team, so we will be missed her, but

1807
01:32:55,347 --> 01:32:58,547
Speaker 20: hopefully she'll come back stronger and whether sew more tricks

1808
01:32:58,587 --> 01:33:00,467
Speaker 20: up earthily when she returns from Australia.

1809
01:33:00,707 --> 01:33:04,187
Speaker 2: You've obviously had the chance to defend her in domestic netble.

1810
01:33:04,267 --> 01:33:07,187
Speaker 2: What is she like to defend? Is she the toughest

1811
01:33:07,267 --> 01:33:09,467
Speaker 2: opponent for you to defend domestically?

1812
01:33:10,507 --> 01:33:12,667
Speaker 20: M Yeah, I've had a lot of thattch up with

1813
01:33:12,747 --> 01:33:15,667
Speaker 20: her and it's always a battle and a challenge. I

1814
01:33:15,827 --> 01:33:20,667
Speaker 20: love playing against Gigi justices as that factor. But she's athletic.

1815
01:33:21,147 --> 01:33:23,507
Speaker 20: She's not only four, but she can jump and she's strong,

1816
01:33:24,187 --> 01:33:28,787
Speaker 20: which is so crucial, especially at international level. And you know,

1817
01:33:28,907 --> 01:33:30,307
Speaker 20: she's a great asset.

1818
01:33:30,067 --> 01:33:30,827
Speaker 5: For New Zealand.

1819
01:33:31,587 --> 01:33:35,547
Speaker 2: And just finally we're awaiting confirmation of Nepple's inclusion and

1820
01:33:35,667 --> 01:33:38,307
Speaker 2: what will be a slimmed down Commonwealth Games in twenty

1821
01:33:38,387 --> 01:33:41,107
Speaker 2: twenty six in Glasgow. How important is it to you

1822
01:33:41,347 --> 01:33:44,227
Speaker 2: and to the Silver Ferns that Nettle is included in

1823
01:33:44,347 --> 01:33:45,907
Speaker 2: the Commonwealth Games moving forward?

1824
01:33:46,947 --> 01:33:49,987
Speaker 20: That would be hugely important for the sport. We've only

1825
01:33:50,027 --> 01:33:52,787
Speaker 20: got two pinnacle events and that being the World Cup

1826
01:33:52,947 --> 01:33:55,507
Speaker 20: and the common Wealth Games, so to lose one of

1827
01:33:55,547 --> 01:33:58,347
Speaker 20: those would their huge blow. And myself, I've already been

1828
01:33:58,427 --> 01:34:00,947
Speaker 20: to two common Wealth Games and it's such so only

1829
01:34:00,987 --> 01:34:04,307
Speaker 20: an experience, the netw experience to go over with the

1830
01:34:04,347 --> 01:34:08,067
Speaker 20: whole New Zealand team. So yeah, fingers crossed, we'll get

1831
01:34:08,187 --> 01:34:09,387
Speaker 20: on that last all right, We'll.

1832
01:34:09,507 --> 01:34:11,867
Speaker 2: Wait and see on that. Your immediate point of business

1833
01:34:11,867 --> 01:34:15,547
Speaker 2: obviously the Tiny Jamison Trophy Game one tonight, trust around

1834
01:34:15,547 --> 01:34:17,827
Speaker 2: the seven thirty center pass Kelly. Thanks for joining us

1835
01:34:18,107 --> 01:34:20,147
Speaker 2: and giving us a bit of insight ahead of game

1836
01:34:20,227 --> 01:34:24,147
Speaker 2: one in this series. Kelly Jackson there from the Silver Fern.

1837
01:34:24,227 --> 01:34:27,387
Speaker 2: See Game one tonight in Auckland, Game two and potly

1838
01:34:27,467 --> 01:34:31,147
Speaker 2: door Wednesday night, Game three in the Cargo next Sunday

1839
01:34:31,227 --> 01:34:34,587
Speaker 2: then Australia. Two tests are here and two over there

1840
01:34:34,707 --> 01:34:38,627
Speaker 2: in the Constellation Cup series. It's just gone seventeen and

1841
01:34:38,667 --> 01:34:42,867
Speaker 2: a half past two weekend sport. Let's stay with the

1842
01:34:43,227 --> 01:34:46,027
Speaker 2: sports with the hoops, the breakers up and running. In

1843
01:34:46,107 --> 01:34:48,987
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four to twenty five Australian National Basketball

1844
01:34:49,067 --> 01:34:51,707
Speaker 2: League season, they began their campaign with a ninety one

1845
01:34:51,867 --> 01:34:55,027
Speaker 2: eighty seven win over the Brisbane Bullets last weekend.

1846
01:34:55,307 --> 01:34:58,427
Speaker 3: Three seconds left, three point League makes it as all well,

1847
01:34:58,507 --> 01:34:58,907
Speaker 3: he makes it.

1848
01:34:59,067 --> 01:35:01,707
Speaker 26: Just stay wide away from everybody, do not go west,

1849
01:35:02,067 --> 01:35:02,867
Speaker 26: one point play.

1850
01:35:04,307 --> 01:35:08,867
Speaker 2: Smith milneral step into it and then you dealing.

1851
01:35:08,787 --> 01:35:14,707
Speaker 3: Breakers snatch victory from the jaws of the vehicle.

1852
01:35:15,027 --> 01:35:17,507
Speaker 2: Yeah, a win for the Breakers last week. They were

1853
01:35:17,547 --> 01:35:19,867
Speaker 2: actually about twenty six points ahead in that game before

1854
01:35:19,907 --> 01:35:21,907
Speaker 2: winning it by four. But a win's a win. Next up,

1855
01:35:21,947 --> 01:35:24,587
Speaker 2: they have their first home game tonight Spark Arena. The

1856
01:35:24,667 --> 01:35:27,947
Speaker 2: Southeast Melbourne Phoenix are the opposition. One of the new

1857
01:35:27,987 --> 01:35:32,627
Speaker 2: faces on the Breakers roster highly experienced Australian guard Mitch McCarran,

1858
01:35:32,867 --> 01:35:35,227
Speaker 2: who's closing it on two hundred and fifty a m

1859
01:35:35,307 --> 01:35:38,627
Speaker 2: BL games, having previously played for the Kents, Taipe Hands,

1860
01:35:38,667 --> 01:35:42,027
Speaker 2: the Melbourne United Side and also the Adelaide thirty sixers.

1861
01:35:42,067 --> 01:35:44,747
Speaker 2: He joins us now, Mitch, thanks for joining us on

1862
01:35:44,787 --> 01:35:46,787
Speaker 2: the show. How pleasing was it first of all to

1863
01:35:46,827 --> 01:35:47,707
Speaker 2: get that win? First up?

1864
01:35:48,307 --> 01:35:51,067
Speaker 26: Hey, thanks for having me on. Yeah, it's awesome. You know,

1865
01:35:51,187 --> 01:35:53,827
Speaker 26: that's obviously the goal and you know we were taking

1866
01:35:53,907 --> 01:35:56,507
Speaker 26: shride forward even though you know it might not have

1867
01:35:56,587 --> 01:35:58,947
Speaker 26: seemed like it in the wins Colin. In the preseason,

1868
01:35:59,027 --> 01:36:00,427
Speaker 26: you know, we felt like we were growing as a

1869
01:36:00,467 --> 01:36:02,787
Speaker 26: group of getting better, and then the first game of

1870
01:36:02,827 --> 01:36:04,827
Speaker 26: the year we get the big job done and.

1871
01:36:04,827 --> 01:36:07,187
Speaker 2: We're one of those Did it feel as though you

1872
01:36:07,267 --> 01:36:09,547
Speaker 2: know you were on the right track even though as

1873
01:36:09,587 --> 01:36:12,867
Speaker 2: you just seed, the preseason results weren't going your way.

1874
01:36:14,427 --> 01:36:17,107
Speaker 26: Yeah, obviously, you know, having done it a few times

1875
01:36:17,147 --> 01:36:19,387
Speaker 26: now with a few different groups, you know, it's always

1876
01:36:19,427 --> 01:36:21,507
Speaker 26: a different vibe, you know, with every team, you know,

1877
01:36:21,627 --> 01:36:24,147
Speaker 26: some have got a lot of continuation and some are

1878
01:36:24,267 --> 01:36:27,187
Speaker 26: very new, which is us. So you know, we've got

1879
01:36:27,387 --> 01:36:29,547
Speaker 26: a new coaching staff to the league for the most part,

1880
01:36:30,387 --> 01:36:33,307
Speaker 26: you know, other than Soxy carrying over, and we've got

1881
01:36:33,707 --> 01:36:35,667
Speaker 26: a lot of new players, not only to New Zealand

1882
01:36:35,707 --> 01:36:38,107
Speaker 26: but to the league as well. So there's an adjustment

1883
01:36:38,187 --> 01:36:39,787
Speaker 26: period that comes with that. But I feel like we've

1884
01:36:39,827 --> 01:36:41,667
Speaker 26: been getting a lot better and we saw a lot

1885
01:36:41,707 --> 01:36:42,707
Speaker 26: of that against Brisbane.

1886
01:36:43,027 --> 01:36:45,507
Speaker 2: You're one of the more experienced players in the league.

1887
01:36:45,867 --> 01:36:48,187
Speaker 2: Did you feel a responsibility coming in, even into a

1888
01:36:48,267 --> 01:36:50,827
Speaker 2: new team, to assume a leadership role.

1889
01:36:53,107 --> 01:36:55,067
Speaker 26: Yeah, I guess I just wanted to do, you know,

1890
01:36:55,187 --> 01:36:57,707
Speaker 26: get back to being you know that the confident player

1891
01:36:57,747 --> 01:36:59,947
Speaker 26: that I was first of all. You know, I know

1892
01:37:00,027 --> 01:37:01,627
Speaker 26: what my skill set is and I want to bring

1893
01:37:01,707 --> 01:37:04,307
Speaker 26: that for the team. And then naturally, I think I

1894
01:37:04,387 --> 01:37:07,147
Speaker 26: can help lead and help others get better in that role,

1895
01:37:07,347 --> 01:37:09,107
Speaker 26: regardless of whether that's got a title on.

1896
01:37:09,147 --> 01:37:09,467
Speaker 6: It or not.

1897
01:37:10,547 --> 01:37:13,187
Speaker 26: You know, it ended up being the case sharing the role.

1898
01:37:13,107 --> 01:37:13,867
Speaker 6: With with Parker.

1899
01:37:13,947 --> 01:37:16,347
Speaker 26: But at the same time, it's really just about everyone

1900
01:37:16,467 --> 01:37:18,947
Speaker 26: bringing their best energy every day and that way everyone's

1901
01:37:18,987 --> 01:37:19,307
Speaker 26: the leader.

1902
01:37:19,707 --> 01:37:21,907
Speaker 2: And of course coming into a new team that's not

1903
01:37:22,067 --> 01:37:24,187
Speaker 2: necessarily new for you, but there are a lot of

1904
01:37:24,267 --> 01:37:28,787
Speaker 2: new faces in this team. Has it been relatively you know,

1905
01:37:29,147 --> 01:37:32,187
Speaker 2: straightforward to mesh as a playing group, even though I

1906
01:37:32,227 --> 01:37:34,787
Speaker 2: guess most you have never really played with one another before.

1907
01:37:36,507 --> 01:37:38,147
Speaker 26: Yeah, it takes it takes a little bit of time,

1908
01:37:38,267 --> 01:37:41,867
Speaker 26: for sure, you know. And and season is a ramp

1909
01:37:41,947 --> 01:37:44,627
Speaker 26: up from pre season even so that's that's another big

1910
01:37:44,667 --> 01:37:47,067
Speaker 26: one that is hard to explain to people that haven't

1911
01:37:47,067 --> 01:37:48,667
Speaker 26: been around the league. You know that you're playing in

1912
01:37:48,707 --> 01:37:51,267
Speaker 26: preseason games and you feel like everyone's playing harder, then

1913
01:37:51,307 --> 01:37:53,467
Speaker 26: it just goes up another level when it all counts

1914
01:37:53,507 --> 01:37:57,107
Speaker 26: and Every team in this league is good. If you

1915
01:37:57,187 --> 01:37:59,427
Speaker 26: play poorly, you lose. It's as simple as that. There

1916
01:37:59,467 --> 01:38:03,267
Speaker 26: are no nights off, and so from that perspective, it

1917
01:38:03,587 --> 01:38:05,587
Speaker 26: might take a bit of time for certain groups to adjust.

1918
01:38:05,627 --> 01:38:07,627
Speaker 26: But I thought we were really good in Round one

1919
01:38:08,147 --> 01:38:10,147
Speaker 26: and we weren't perfect, but we'll continue to grow.

1920
01:38:10,627 --> 01:38:13,747
Speaker 2: Just quick look at your your career stats. So you're

1921
01:38:13,747 --> 01:38:16,547
Speaker 2: a six foot two guard the average over five rebounds

1922
01:38:16,587 --> 01:38:17,427
Speaker 2: a game. How are you doing that?

1923
01:38:19,267 --> 01:38:21,987
Speaker 26: I steal them from the big it's a secret.

1924
01:38:22,067 --> 01:38:22,227
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1925
01:38:22,267 --> 01:38:24,027
Speaker 26: You let them do the hard work and you're running

1926
01:38:24,027 --> 01:38:26,067
Speaker 26: it and they love it. They love it when you

1927
01:38:26,147 --> 01:38:26,307
Speaker 26: do it.

1928
01:38:27,827 --> 01:38:30,867
Speaker 2: Apart from your your un kenny ability to pull out rebounds,

1929
01:38:30,907 --> 01:38:32,627
Speaker 2: what else do you think you can bring mainly to

1930
01:38:32,707 --> 01:38:33,427
Speaker 2: the breaker's roster.

1931
01:38:35,147 --> 01:38:37,147
Speaker 26: I want to be, you know, obviously a creative guard

1932
01:38:37,227 --> 01:38:39,147
Speaker 26: for us. You know, Parker is our guy, no doubt.

1933
01:38:39,747 --> 01:38:42,027
Speaker 26: You know, he's a superstar, and we want the ball

1934
01:38:42,107 --> 01:38:44,067
Speaker 26: in his hands as much as possible because that would

1935
01:38:44,067 --> 01:38:46,387
Speaker 26: be good for us. But we've got some you know

1936
01:38:46,467 --> 01:38:48,507
Speaker 26: when you call it, you know, other point guards or

1937
01:38:48,547 --> 01:38:51,467
Speaker 26: secondary ball carriers. You know, guys like Matt Mooney and

1938
01:38:51,867 --> 01:38:53,907
Speaker 26: myself who need to be aggressive for us. And be

1939
01:38:53,987 --> 01:38:57,187
Speaker 26: playmakers for us. So you know, we'll just play off

1940
01:38:57,227 --> 01:38:59,107
Speaker 26: Parker and if park is often then we'll have the

1941
01:38:59,147 --> 01:39:00,947
Speaker 26: ball in our hands a little bit more and help

1942
01:39:01,027 --> 01:39:03,387
Speaker 26: us get into the flow of things. And that way,

1943
01:39:03,427 --> 01:39:05,827
Speaker 26: everyone's kind of on the same page and sucking their role,

1944
01:39:05,827 --> 01:39:07,187
Speaker 26: which is a good How does.

1945
01:39:07,107 --> 01:39:10,307
Speaker 2: Parker Jackson Cartwright compare to other beckcourt partners you've had.

1946
01:39:13,147 --> 01:39:16,067
Speaker 26: He is as painful, if not the most painful guy

1947
01:39:16,387 --> 01:39:19,307
Speaker 26: to guard at practice, that's for sure. You know, he's

1948
01:39:19,547 --> 01:39:21,067
Speaker 26: He's going to make us a lot better though in

1949
01:39:21,147 --> 01:39:24,267
Speaker 26: that sense, and I was excited about that. You know,

1950
01:39:24,307 --> 01:39:26,387
Speaker 26: I was excited when I signed with the Breakers to

1951
01:39:26,467 --> 01:39:28,947
Speaker 26: know that Parker was going to be back for that reason.

1952
01:39:29,027 --> 01:39:30,827
Speaker 26: You know, even playing against him, I was like, man,

1953
01:39:30,867 --> 01:39:34,707
Speaker 26: this guy's really good. He's smart, and from everyone that

1954
01:39:34,787 --> 01:39:36,987
Speaker 26: I spoke to, he was a really good guy and

1955
01:39:37,067 --> 01:39:39,507
Speaker 26: that's turned out to be true. So I'm enjoying it.

1956
01:39:39,627 --> 01:39:41,507
Speaker 26: You know, the daily battles of trying to keep him

1957
01:39:41,547 --> 01:39:44,907
Speaker 26: in front and also trying to attack him, and you know,

1958
01:39:45,067 --> 01:39:48,867
Speaker 26: he's all brought in on the team being successful. So yeah,

1959
01:39:49,067 --> 01:39:50,227
Speaker 26: I've loved playing with him so far.

1960
01:39:50,627 --> 01:39:52,227
Speaker 2: When you sign for the team match, I think Mordi

1961
01:39:52,307 --> 01:39:54,707
Speaker 2: Mayor was the coach. I know he's departed now, but

1962
01:39:54,987 --> 01:39:58,347
Speaker 2: how important was he in getting you across the Tasman.

1963
01:39:59,587 --> 01:39:59,747
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1964
01:39:59,787 --> 01:40:01,907
Speaker 26: That was That was really the main reason that I signed,

1965
01:40:01,947 --> 01:40:05,067
Speaker 26: to be honest, you know, I was excited about a

1966
01:40:05,227 --> 01:40:07,347
Speaker 26: coach that was kind of well own for I guess

1967
01:40:07,467 --> 01:40:10,507
Speaker 26: role clarity, for a guy who had a very thorough

1968
01:40:10,587 --> 01:40:13,587
Speaker 26: system and you know, made people buy into that and

1969
01:40:13,707 --> 01:40:16,307
Speaker 26: made people play a certain way. And you know, we

1970
01:40:16,387 --> 01:40:18,187
Speaker 26: saw the success they had a couple of years ago

1971
01:40:18,227 --> 01:40:20,347
Speaker 26: when they pushed Sydney in the in the game five

1972
01:40:20,387 --> 01:40:23,067
Speaker 26: of Grand Final Series and some of their guys were

1973
01:40:23,147 --> 01:40:25,867
Speaker 26: just excelling in their skill sets and that for me

1974
01:40:26,067 --> 01:40:27,867
Speaker 26: was a major sign where I wanted to get back

1975
01:40:27,907 --> 01:40:31,187
Speaker 26: to being a guy that could play his role. But also,

1976
01:40:31,547 --> 01:40:33,987
Speaker 26: you know, just just have a coach that understood who

1977
01:40:34,027 --> 01:40:36,067
Speaker 26: he was and from talking to Mody that was that

1978
01:40:36,227 --> 01:40:37,987
Speaker 26: was really the deciding factor, is that I thought he

1979
01:40:38,067 --> 01:40:39,907
Speaker 26: understood who I was as a player the best.

1980
01:40:40,547 --> 01:40:42,627
Speaker 2: So I guess the natural follow on question is now

1981
01:40:42,667 --> 01:40:45,307
Speaker 2: that he's departed, are you in any way sick and

1982
01:40:45,387 --> 01:40:48,187
Speaker 2: guessing your decision? Or have you have you found Pater

1983
01:40:48,627 --> 01:40:51,507
Speaker 2: Copingan to be a coach. You can also feel like

1984
01:40:51,587 --> 01:40:53,347
Speaker 2: you can make a you know, have a.

1985
01:40:53,347 --> 01:40:58,387
Speaker 26: Fit with Yeah, not at all. It's been actually really fun.

1986
01:40:58,507 --> 01:41:00,627
Speaker 26: You know, it's obviously very different, you know, first year

1987
01:41:00,827 --> 01:41:04,107
Speaker 26: head coach coming in compared to Mody. But at the

1988
01:41:04,187 --> 01:41:07,067
Speaker 26: same time, I think they you know, we have we

1989
01:41:07,147 --> 01:41:10,467
Speaker 26: have Soxy carryover from the previous year, who was an

1990
01:41:10,507 --> 01:41:13,427
Speaker 26: assistant coach and he's now associate head coach, and you know,

1991
01:41:13,507 --> 01:41:15,467
Speaker 26: he carries over some of the systems that we had

1992
01:41:15,507 --> 01:41:17,267
Speaker 26: and some of the thoughts that Mody had. And I

1993
01:41:17,307 --> 01:41:20,347
Speaker 26: had a really good phone call with him after Murdy

1994
01:41:20,387 --> 01:41:23,587
Speaker 26: departed and before preseason started about role and it was

1995
01:41:23,747 --> 01:41:26,147
Speaker 26: very very similar and they were clearly on the same page.

1996
01:41:26,227 --> 01:41:29,267
Speaker 26: So you know, it wasn't like a complete disconnect. All right,

1997
01:41:29,307 --> 01:41:31,147
Speaker 26: we're going to do everything differently. There was a lot

1998
01:41:31,187 --> 01:41:34,427
Speaker 26: of carryover. And then Cop comes in and I mean

1999
01:41:34,467 --> 01:41:37,267
Speaker 26: he played at such a high level, and you know

2000
01:41:37,427 --> 01:41:39,707
Speaker 26: that that level of European basketball, you know you need

2001
01:41:39,827 --> 01:41:41,787
Speaker 26: to think and you need to stick into your system

2002
01:41:41,827 --> 01:41:44,267
Speaker 26: because everyone is so good and the margins is so small.

2003
01:41:44,427 --> 01:41:46,787
Speaker 26: So I think he's brought that with him to us

2004
01:41:46,867 --> 01:41:49,107
Speaker 26: and we understand, Look, we're the underdogs. You know we are,

2005
01:41:49,427 --> 01:41:50,947
Speaker 26: so you know, we have to be so good in

2006
01:41:51,067 --> 01:41:53,427
Speaker 26: little areas and everyone's brought into that, all.

2007
01:41:53,347 --> 01:41:55,867
Speaker 2: Right, So tonight south East Melbourne, Phoenix. So you're nixt

2008
01:41:55,867 --> 01:41:57,787
Speaker 2: to Simon, how do you assist the threat that they'll bring.

2009
01:41:59,507 --> 01:42:01,907
Speaker 26: Yeah, we know that. You know, offensively, if you let

2010
01:42:01,947 --> 01:42:03,427
Speaker 26: them run and gun, they're going to put a lot

2011
01:42:03,467 --> 01:42:05,507
Speaker 26: of points on the board. We saw that throughout the

2012
01:42:05,547 --> 01:42:08,187
Speaker 26: preseason and you see that in the roster. You know,

2013
01:42:08,227 --> 01:42:09,627
Speaker 26: they've got a lot of guys who like to just

2014
01:42:09,707 --> 01:42:11,827
Speaker 26: go and and if you let them do it, they'll

2015
01:42:11,867 --> 01:42:14,067
Speaker 26: do it for forty minutes and they'll gladly put one

2016
01:42:14,107 --> 01:42:16,707
Speaker 26: hundred and twenty. So you know, we've got to contain

2017
01:42:16,787 --> 01:42:18,347
Speaker 26: them tonight. We've got to be really good in that

2018
01:42:18,507 --> 01:42:20,547
Speaker 26: in that area. But you know we've also got to

2019
01:42:20,547 --> 01:42:22,747
Speaker 26: put the pressure on them when they're on defense as well,

2020
01:42:22,787 --> 01:42:24,907
Speaker 26: and then put you know, put some scoreboard pressure on.

2021
01:42:25,147 --> 01:42:26,907
Speaker 2: And how much you're looking forward to I mean you've

2022
01:42:26,907 --> 01:42:29,227
Speaker 2: been you've played at Spark a lot, but not as

2023
01:42:29,267 --> 01:42:31,107
Speaker 2: a not as a home player. How much you're looking

2024
01:42:31,107 --> 01:42:31,467
Speaker 2: forward to that?

2025
01:42:32,987 --> 01:42:36,027
Speaker 26: Yeah, it's a very different look. I think I still

2026
01:42:36,067 --> 01:42:37,747
Speaker 26: haven't been in there, you know, even for a shoot around,

2027
01:42:37,867 --> 01:42:40,187
Speaker 26: So it'll be cool checking it out and seeing it

2028
01:42:40,227 --> 01:42:42,867
Speaker 26: from a different view. I said earlier this morning as

2029
01:42:42,907 --> 01:42:45,147
Speaker 26: well that, uh, you know, I went to a concert there,

2030
01:42:45,187 --> 01:42:46,707
Speaker 26: so I got to sit in the crowd and see

2031
01:42:46,747 --> 01:42:47,707
Speaker 26: that it was different.

2032
01:42:47,787 --> 01:42:47,907
Speaker 15: You know.

2033
01:42:47,987 --> 01:42:49,427
Speaker 26: It was just like, oh, this is weird, Like it

2034
01:42:49,467 --> 01:42:51,347
Speaker 26: doesn't look like this when I'm out there for basketball.

2035
01:42:51,427 --> 01:42:54,067
Speaker 26: So now I'm excited, and we'll have the home crowd

2036
01:42:54,107 --> 01:42:54,867
Speaker 26: behind us, I'm sure.

2037
01:42:55,067 --> 01:42:58,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff. And just to finish, what what what

2038
01:42:58,307 --> 01:43:01,507
Speaker 2: does success look like for the Breakers this season? Is

2039
01:43:01,547 --> 01:43:03,987
Speaker 2: it as simple as just trying to make the playoffs

2040
01:43:03,987 --> 01:43:04,787
Speaker 2: and then go from there.

2041
01:43:06,507 --> 01:43:09,787
Speaker 26: Well, I think it's a cliche to say win the championship,

2042
01:43:09,827 --> 01:43:12,627
Speaker 26: you know, obviously, but that's everyone's goal, right, and I think,

2043
01:43:12,707 --> 01:43:14,507
Speaker 26: you know, we're just taking out what game by game.

2044
01:43:15,907 --> 01:43:17,987
Speaker 26: You know, everyone's going to have their opinions about where

2045
01:43:18,027 --> 01:43:19,987
Speaker 26: we sit in terms of talent in our roster. But

2046
01:43:20,067 --> 01:43:22,987
Speaker 26: we showed even throughout the preseason that we're in basically

2047
01:43:23,067 --> 01:43:26,267
Speaker 26: every game throughout the Blitz and then in Brisbane, sorry

2048
01:43:26,307 --> 01:43:28,707
Speaker 26: against Brisbane in Perth, you know, we're in every single game,

2049
01:43:28,747 --> 01:43:31,147
Speaker 26: and then we let ourselves down, you know, later towards

2050
01:43:31,187 --> 01:43:34,227
Speaker 26: the game, which is a controllable thing. So expectations for

2051
01:43:34,347 --> 01:43:37,147
Speaker 26: us is to win every single game play and you know,

2052
01:43:37,187 --> 01:43:39,307
Speaker 26: I don't think there'll be any adjustment on that. Yeah,

2053
01:43:39,347 --> 01:43:41,347
Speaker 26: regardless of what our record is, We'll go into the

2054
01:43:41,387 --> 01:43:43,787
Speaker 26: next game thinking, all right, if we execute our game plan,

2055
01:43:43,907 --> 01:43:46,907
Speaker 26: we will win. Just have to make enough shot. So yeah,

2056
01:43:46,947 --> 01:43:49,627
Speaker 26: and that until that changes, which I don't think it will.

2057
01:43:49,707 --> 01:43:50,147
Speaker 26: That's the goal.

2058
01:43:50,707 --> 01:43:53,267
Speaker 2: Great to have you and a Breakers single it much.

2059
01:43:53,307 --> 01:43:54,747
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time for a chet today all

2060
01:43:54,747 --> 01:43:57,667
Speaker 2: the beast tonight, thanks so much, Thank you much much. McCarran.

2061
01:43:57,747 --> 01:44:00,267
Speaker 2: There from the Breakers, they take on the Southeast Melbourn

2062
01:44:00,307 --> 01:44:03,307
Speaker 2: Phoenix Tonight's Park Arena seven point thirty is tip off

2063
01:44:03,347 --> 01:44:06,227
Speaker 2: after the ninety one eighty seven win last week. Following,

2064
01:44:06,267 --> 01:44:08,827
Speaker 2: the Breakers are off to the United States where they'll

2065
01:44:08,867 --> 01:44:12,387
Speaker 2: take on the Utah Jazz, the Philadelphia seventy six is

2066
01:44:12,467 --> 01:44:17,107
Speaker 2: and the OKC Thunder. So nice little, nice little diversion

2067
01:44:17,187 --> 01:44:19,947
Speaker 2: from the Australian National Basketball League for them three games

2068
01:44:19,947 --> 01:44:24,347
Speaker 2: against NBA sides in early October and then back for

2069
01:44:24,467 --> 01:44:28,427
Speaker 2: the resumption of the Australian National Basketball League season. North

2070
01:44:28,427 --> 01:44:31,627
Speaker 2: Harbor have scored three converted tries in the first sixteen

2071
01:44:31,707 --> 01:44:34,707
Speaker 2: minutes against Canterbury at Albany, they lead twenty one to

2072
01:44:34,787 --> 01:44:38,867
Speaker 2: nil now through twenty two minutes in that game and

2073
01:44:38,907 --> 01:44:40,987
Speaker 2: the other Bunnings MPC match going on at the moment,

2074
01:44:41,067 --> 01:44:43,147
Speaker 2: and in the Cargol Whitcutta we've scored a couple of

2075
01:44:43,187 --> 01:44:46,267
Speaker 2: converted tries. They lead the South and Stags fourteen points

2076
01:44:46,307 --> 01:44:50,027
Speaker 2: to nil after twenty minutes there to twenty eight. When

2077
01:44:50,067 --> 01:44:53,227
Speaker 2: we come back, we'll go to Barcelona where the challengers

2078
01:44:53,227 --> 01:44:56,747
Speaker 2: areas for the America's Cup is ongoing. Luna Rossa and

2079
01:44:56,867 --> 01:45:00,467
Speaker 2: Ineos Britannia battling for the right to take on Emirates

2080
01:45:00,507 --> 01:45:02,987
Speaker 2: Team New Zealand for the America's Cup. There was a

2081
01:45:03,667 --> 01:45:06,747
Speaker 2: well there went any results overnight, but there was some racing.

2082
01:45:06,827 --> 01:45:09,467
Speaker 2: However it was timed out. We'll give you a bit

2083
01:45:09,507 --> 01:45:11,867
Speaker 2: more detail on this when we're joined by America's Cup

2084
01:45:11,907 --> 01:45:14,667
Speaker 2: analyst Chris Steel right after this on Weekend Sport.

2085
01:45:15,427 --> 01:45:17,267
Speaker 4: It's more than just a game.

2086
01:45:17,627 --> 01:45:22,707
Speaker 1: Weekends for it with Jason Vine and GJ. Guvnerhomes New Zealand's.

2087
01:45:22,267 --> 01:45:25,827
Speaker 2: Most trusted home builder News Dogs B twenty nine to three,

2088
01:45:25,987 --> 01:45:29,387
Speaker 2: Day two of the America's Cup Challenger Series between Anios

2089
01:45:29,467 --> 01:45:33,347
Speaker 2: Britannia and Lunar Rossa has been eventually timed out. This

2090
01:45:33,587 --> 01:45:34,587
Speaker 2: is the race committee.

2091
01:45:34,747 --> 01:45:37,827
Speaker 4: We have reached the time limit and this race is stopped.

2092
01:45:39,947 --> 01:45:41,307
Speaker 2: Well, guess who's happy about that.

2093
01:45:41,747 --> 01:45:44,347
Speaker 23: That's the Lunar Rossa fans and they have fair reason

2094
01:45:44,427 --> 01:45:47,947
Speaker 23: to feel happy about that, because, let's be honest, the

2095
01:45:48,067 --> 01:45:50,867
Speaker 23: way that any Odds Britanny we're racing in those light

2096
01:45:50,947 --> 01:45:53,307
Speaker 23: air conditions was just beautiful to watch.

2097
01:45:53,427 --> 01:45:57,667
Speaker 2: They were so in control until that moment, so neither

2098
01:45:57,707 --> 01:46:00,467
Speaker 2: boat could finish the opening race after coming off their foils.

2099
01:46:00,547 --> 01:46:03,387
Speaker 2: The start was already delayed a couple of hours because

2100
01:46:03,587 --> 01:46:05,907
Speaker 2: of light winds. Racing was called off for the day

2101
01:46:05,987 --> 01:46:09,787
Speaker 2: and resume again tomorrow, Races three and four in the

2102
01:46:09,907 --> 01:46:12,427
Speaker 2: series to be run in what is forecast to be

2103
01:46:12,467 --> 01:46:16,587
Speaker 2: a much more reliable breeze. Elite Sailor match Racer and

2104
01:46:16,747 --> 01:46:20,307
Speaker 2: the America's Cup analyst Chris Steele is with us. Chris

2105
01:46:20,427 --> 01:46:22,507
Speaker 2: tell us the story of the day and the racing

2106
01:46:22,587 --> 01:46:25,427
Speaker 2: that you did see, albeit cut short by a lack

2107
01:46:25,507 --> 01:46:26,427
Speaker 2: of breeze near the end.

2108
01:46:29,187 --> 01:46:31,427
Speaker 15: Oh, mate, it was a super interesting day.

2109
01:46:32,347 --> 01:46:37,307
Speaker 27: Obviously, the delay with the wind like conditions most of

2110
01:46:37,307 --> 01:46:40,027
Speaker 27: the forecasting sort of models that we were looking at

2111
01:46:40,307 --> 01:46:42,947
Speaker 27: and actually had the breeze of building in the afternoon,

2112
01:46:42,987 --> 01:46:44,867
Speaker 27: it never really sort of came in, so it was

2113
01:46:44,907 --> 01:46:47,027
Speaker 27: looking like for a while they might not actually race,

2114
01:46:47,107 --> 01:46:50,307
Speaker 27: but obviously it all happens pretty quickly and they're up

2115
01:46:50,347 --> 01:46:53,227
Speaker 27: on the foils and into a prestart, and although they

2116
01:46:53,227 --> 01:46:55,707
Speaker 27: actually didn't finish the race, it was super interesting to

2117
01:46:55,747 --> 01:46:59,067
Speaker 27: see the two boats. You know, for me personally what

2118
01:46:59,147 --> 01:47:01,027
Speaker 27: I've seen, I thought Londa Ross was going to be

2119
01:47:01,067 --> 01:47:04,627
Speaker 27: extremely strong in those conditions and sort of sweep the

2120
01:47:04,667 --> 01:47:07,267
Speaker 27: floor with any of us, but no, it was it

2121
01:47:07,427 --> 01:47:11,347
Speaker 27: was kind of a story that kind of went back

2122
01:47:11,387 --> 01:47:14,547
Speaker 27: and forward in the race. The the Brits got in

2123
01:47:14,587 --> 01:47:16,747
Speaker 27: front early and then the Italians were managed to get

2124
01:47:16,747 --> 01:47:18,587
Speaker 27: past them on the first run, and I thought that

2125
01:47:18,667 --> 01:47:19,987
Speaker 27: was kind of going to be the end of it.

2126
01:47:21,227 --> 01:47:23,227
Speaker 27: But yeah, then the Bridge took the lead back and

2127
01:47:24,347 --> 01:47:26,907
Speaker 27: then the breeze started to drop, and I was super

2128
01:47:26,947 --> 01:47:30,267
Speaker 27: impressed with with Anios's pace in those conditions.

2129
01:47:30,267 --> 01:47:30,787
Speaker 17: I thought that was.

2130
01:47:30,787 --> 01:47:32,947
Speaker 27: Probably going to be the one one area where they

2131
01:47:33,027 --> 01:47:36,227
Speaker 27: might be lacking in performance. It sort of seemed like

2132
01:47:36,627 --> 01:47:39,027
Speaker 27: when it was for seven or eight knots, they definitely

2133
01:47:39,107 --> 01:47:42,107
Speaker 27: had a speed edge, but as soon as it dropped

2134
01:47:42,147 --> 01:47:43,987
Speaker 27: just below that sort of that six knight area where

2135
01:47:44,027 --> 01:47:45,747
Speaker 27: the boat's trying to stay on the foils, that the

2136
01:47:45,867 --> 01:47:49,267
Speaker 27: Italians were definitely looking a little bit cleaner and faster.

2137
01:47:49,427 --> 01:47:52,427
Speaker 27: So yeah, unfortunately, in the end the breeze dropped out

2138
01:47:52,427 --> 01:47:54,987
Speaker 27: all together and both boats came off the foils and

2139
01:47:55,027 --> 01:47:57,867
Speaker 27: they weren't actually able to finish. But in terms of

2140
01:47:58,787 --> 01:48:01,747
Speaker 27: you know, watching an exciting race lead changes, you know,

2141
01:48:02,627 --> 01:48:06,187
Speaker 27: leads sort of gamping out and then disappearing really quickly,

2142
01:48:06,187 --> 01:48:07,667
Speaker 27: I thought it was a pretty good spectacle.

2143
01:48:08,067 --> 01:48:10,507
Speaker 2: So how disappointed would those on board and the asked

2144
01:48:10,547 --> 01:48:12,827
Speaker 2: pre tenure have been because what they were ahead, weren't

2145
01:48:12,867 --> 01:48:15,387
Speaker 2: they They had what gone around the fifth mark as

2146
01:48:15,387 --> 01:48:17,307
Speaker 2: I understand it, but just couldn't get up on the

2147
01:48:17,347 --> 01:48:20,707
Speaker 2: foils in time to get inside the forty five minutes.

2148
01:48:21,827 --> 01:48:24,907
Speaker 27: Yeah, I mean the Brits will definitely probably feel a

2149
01:48:24,947 --> 01:48:28,547
Speaker 27: little bit more upset with the result because they had

2150
01:48:28,547 --> 01:48:31,067
Speaker 27: a pretty good lead going up the last up on Leagan,

2151
01:48:31,507 --> 01:48:34,507
Speaker 27: and you know, to try and sort of put it

2152
01:48:34,547 --> 01:48:37,107
Speaker 27: into some contexts, once these boats are up on the foils,

2153
01:48:38,747 --> 01:48:40,907
Speaker 27: you know, you can stay up on the foil. Once

2154
01:48:40,947 --> 01:48:44,347
Speaker 27: you're up and sort of you know, lower end conditions,

2155
01:48:44,547 --> 01:48:46,587
Speaker 27: but once you come off, you know you can't get

2156
01:48:46,627 --> 01:48:49,427
Speaker 27: back up. So basically they're in a position where it

2157
01:48:49,547 --> 01:48:51,627
Speaker 27: was a lightning breeze and if they had managed to

2158
01:48:51,667 --> 01:48:52,987
Speaker 27: stay on the foil, they would have been able to

2159
01:48:52,987 --> 01:48:55,427
Speaker 27: finish that race and plenty of time, no worries. But

2160
01:48:55,987 --> 01:48:58,307
Speaker 27: they had a bit of a slip up and one

2161
01:48:58,347 --> 01:49:00,787
Speaker 27: of the attacks on the last up on legan and

2162
01:49:01,347 --> 01:49:04,347
Speaker 27: came off the foil, and you know, at that point

2163
01:49:04,867 --> 01:49:06,507
Speaker 27: that was kind of the race because it was it

2164
01:49:06,587 --> 01:49:08,547
Speaker 27: was pretty clear that once they came off, it.

2165
01:49:08,627 --> 01:49:10,227
Speaker 15: Wasn't gonna be enough breeze to get them back up.

2166
01:49:10,307 --> 01:49:12,747
Speaker 27: And given the length of the course, even though they

2167
01:49:12,787 --> 01:49:14,267
Speaker 27: only had one more sort of league to go to

2168
01:49:14,347 --> 01:49:15,627
Speaker 27: the finish, there's just.

2169
01:49:15,667 --> 01:49:16,907
Speaker 15: Not going to be any way that they were going

2170
01:49:16,947 --> 01:49:18,267
Speaker 15: to be able to do it when they were in

2171
01:49:18,387 --> 01:49:21,907
Speaker 15: splacement boat, So they'll they'll be feeling pretty sort of upset.

2172
01:49:21,947 --> 01:49:24,267
Speaker 27: But on the flip side, Lunda Rossa was leading that

2173
01:49:24,387 --> 01:49:26,827
Speaker 27: race at one point as well and made a couple

2174
01:49:26,867 --> 01:49:28,187
Speaker 27: of mistakes on.

2175
01:49:28,267 --> 01:49:30,387
Speaker 15: The down and it was a super dynamic day. Breeze

2176
01:49:30,427 --> 01:49:33,667
Speaker 15: was shifting around. You know, the pressure was.

2177
01:49:34,027 --> 01:49:36,227
Speaker 27: Sort of up and down in different areas, so I

2178
01:49:36,307 --> 01:49:39,387
Speaker 27: think both teams will feel like they missed out on opportunities.

2179
01:49:39,427 --> 01:49:41,267
Speaker 15: But you know, at the end of the day, no.

2180
01:49:41,347 --> 01:49:45,667
Speaker 27: Points lost on either side, so they'll they'll probably both

2181
01:49:45,707 --> 01:49:48,547
Speaker 27: be relieved in that regard, and you know, the story

2182
01:49:48,547 --> 01:49:49,947
Speaker 27: doesn't change for either of them. They still were to

2183
01:49:50,027 --> 01:49:52,507
Speaker 27: get to seven points, So back to square one and

2184
01:49:52,827 --> 01:49:53,507
Speaker 27: go again tomorrow.

2185
01:49:53,987 --> 01:49:57,667
Speaker 2: Who feels favored to you, Chris and stronger breezes.

2186
01:50:00,227 --> 01:50:03,987
Speaker 27: Honestly, like, looking at the racing over the last few days,

2187
01:50:04,027 --> 01:50:07,587
Speaker 27: I think the boats are extremely mostly matched in terms

2188
01:50:07,587 --> 01:50:10,627
Speaker 27: of performance. I think if you had to put your

2189
01:50:10,667 --> 01:50:13,467
Speaker 27: finger on one boat having any sort of advantage anywhere.

2190
01:50:13,507 --> 01:50:17,907
Speaker 27: I think the Brits are slightly quicker downwind, and you

2191
01:50:17,947 --> 01:50:19,947
Speaker 27: know that's kind of a trend that's continued on from

2192
01:50:19,987 --> 01:50:23,987
Speaker 27: the preliminary together. But in terms of the upland performance,

2193
01:50:24,347 --> 01:50:26,747
Speaker 27: looking at some of the data, like there really isn't

2194
01:50:26,787 --> 01:50:29,107
Speaker 27: much in it at all, So it really is just

2195
01:50:29,187 --> 01:50:31,427
Speaker 27: going to come down, I think, to who gets off

2196
01:50:31,467 --> 01:50:34,027
Speaker 27: the start line in front and who makes this mistakes

2197
01:50:34,067 --> 01:50:34,867
Speaker 27: around the racetrack.

2198
01:50:35,747 --> 01:50:36,387
Speaker 15: We've sort of.

2199
01:50:36,427 --> 01:50:39,147
Speaker 27: Seen already that with this type of racing in these boats.

2200
01:50:39,187 --> 01:50:42,067
Speaker 27: It is extremely hard to make passes around on the racetrack,

2201
01:50:42,187 --> 01:50:45,067
Speaker 27: so you know, if you can get control at the

2202
01:50:45,107 --> 01:50:47,027
Speaker 27: start and get your upper hand and it's kind of

2203
01:50:47,547 --> 01:50:50,747
Speaker 27: your race to lose from there. So yeah, if I

2204
01:50:50,827 --> 01:50:53,347
Speaker 27: had to pick anyone, I've always sort of set up

2205
01:50:53,387 --> 01:50:55,667
Speaker 27: until this point, I thought Leonda Rossa was probably the favorite.

2206
01:50:55,707 --> 01:50:58,667
Speaker 27: But the Brits have made some massive strides forward in

2207
01:50:58,707 --> 01:51:02,387
Speaker 27: the last sort of week or ten days, and you know,

2208
01:51:02,507 --> 01:51:06,347
Speaker 27: on paper, I think you know that they might have

2209
01:51:06,467 --> 01:51:09,947
Speaker 27: a slight edge performance wise, but we haven't seen you know,

2210
01:51:09,987 --> 01:51:12,107
Speaker 27: a range of conditions yet. We've kind of seen both

2211
01:51:12,387 --> 01:51:16,467
Speaker 27: both ends upper limit and lower limit, and you know

2212
01:51:16,587 --> 01:51:18,147
Speaker 27: tomorrow the breeze is going to be up again, so

2213
01:51:19,427 --> 01:51:21,467
Speaker 27: you know, on paper, with the trends, I think the

2214
01:51:21,627 --> 01:51:24,187
Speaker 27: Brits should should probably feel pretty comfortable. But you know,

2215
01:51:24,227 --> 01:51:26,507
Speaker 27: I definitely would wouldn't be writing Luna Roster off either.

2216
01:51:26,507 --> 01:51:28,107
Speaker 27: I think it starts are just going to going to

2217
01:51:28,147 --> 01:51:30,987
Speaker 27: be super important, and yeah, it's going to be a

2218
01:51:31,027 --> 01:51:31,467
Speaker 27: good to watch.

2219
01:51:31,587 --> 01:51:34,147
Speaker 2: Yeah, still a very intriguing Challenger series. And as far

2220
01:51:34,187 --> 01:51:37,627
Speaker 2: as Team New Zealand concerned, Chris, what did we learn

2221
01:51:38,107 --> 01:51:41,347
Speaker 2: about them during their participation in the Louis Vuitton.

2222
01:51:43,947 --> 01:51:47,187
Speaker 27: Well, we learned that they're certainly still kind of picking

2223
01:51:47,267 --> 01:51:49,507
Speaker 27: up where they left off, and Auckland he's doing, you know,

2224
01:51:49,547 --> 01:51:50,427
Speaker 27: on the last cup date.

2225
01:51:50,907 --> 01:51:53,387
Speaker 15: They're definitely quick, and I think one of the.

2226
01:51:53,427 --> 01:51:56,027
Speaker 27: Interesting things, you know, to take away from that preliminary

2227
01:51:56,107 --> 01:51:58,547
Speaker 27: regatta was they were sort of using what we call

2228
01:51:58,587 --> 01:52:01,187
Speaker 27: like an asymmetric set up in terms of the foils,

2229
01:52:01,267 --> 01:52:03,867
Speaker 27: so the foil on one side of the boat was

2230
01:52:03,867 --> 01:52:06,667
Speaker 27: actually different to the other side, and they were using

2231
01:52:07,187 --> 01:52:08,987
Speaker 27: I guess that regarded to test the.

2232
01:52:09,027 --> 01:52:10,827
Speaker 15: Different setups and those different foils.

2233
01:52:10,907 --> 01:52:13,987
Speaker 27: And so when it comes to the actually America's Cup,

2234
01:52:13,987 --> 01:52:17,347
Speaker 27: they'll obviously put themselves, they'll choose one of those those

2235
01:52:17,827 --> 01:52:19,787
Speaker 27: foils and it'll be the same on both sides. But

2236
01:52:20,547 --> 01:52:22,467
Speaker 27: you know, it's super interesting because they they are very

2237
01:52:22,547 --> 01:52:24,187
Speaker 27: much using there as a testing period and they were

2238
01:52:24,227 --> 01:52:29,547
Speaker 27: fast on both both techs. So you know, certainly we

2239
01:52:29,707 --> 01:52:31,947
Speaker 27: haven't seen them play all their cards, that's for sure,

2240
01:52:33,227 --> 01:52:34,907
Speaker 27: but you know, from the outside.

2241
01:52:34,587 --> 01:52:36,747
Speaker 15: Looking, you know, I think they'll be I'll be pretty

2242
01:52:36,747 --> 01:52:37,507
Speaker 15: confident right now.

2243
01:52:37,907 --> 01:52:40,787
Speaker 2: Look forward to seeing what happens when they find their challenger.

2244
01:52:40,827 --> 01:52:44,027
Speaker 2: Thanks Chris, appreciate your time, Chris Steel, their leading match

2245
01:52:44,107 --> 01:52:47,627
Speaker 2: racer Elite Sailor America's Cup analyst out of Barcelona, where

2246
01:52:47,707 --> 01:52:51,827
Speaker 2: there were no points awarded on day two. They shared

2247
01:52:51,907 --> 01:52:54,427
Speaker 2: the races on day one, so it's one apiece in

2248
01:52:54,467 --> 01:52:57,787
Speaker 2: the race to seven between any Os Britannia and Lunar Rossa.

2249
01:52:58,867 --> 01:53:01,107
Speaker 2: As you heard during our chat with Chris and the

2250
01:53:01,147 --> 01:53:03,867
Speaker 2: commentary who played earlier, the fact the race was called

2251
01:53:03,907 --> 01:53:08,827
Speaker 2: off was of probably great relief to Luna Rossa into

2252
01:53:08,867 --> 01:53:11,987
Speaker 2: the slight annoyance of Inneos Bretanna, who were doing well

2253
01:53:12,027 --> 01:53:14,987
Speaker 2: even in the light wins. So an intriguing series will

2254
01:53:15,067 --> 01:53:18,747
Speaker 2: be resuming tonight when they'll have races three and four.

2255
01:53:18,827 --> 01:53:20,827
Speaker 2: And as I said to Christ there, the forecast is

2256
01:53:21,187 --> 01:53:24,947
Speaker 2: for much more favorable conditions, are far more reliable breeze,

2257
01:53:25,267 --> 01:53:27,227
Speaker 2: so we should get the two races away to see

2258
01:53:27,267 --> 01:53:30,267
Speaker 2: if one of Britannia or Luna Rossa can get a

2259
01:53:30,347 --> 01:53:33,987
Speaker 2: jump on the other. As the battle to be the

2260
01:53:34,027 --> 01:53:37,627
Speaker 2: America's Cup challenger to Team New Zealand heats up Canterbury,

2261
01:53:37,787 --> 01:53:39,667
Speaker 2: I have decided to start playing in this game of

2262
01:53:39,707 --> 01:53:41,787
Speaker 2: rugby against North Harbor. They've scored a couple of tries

2263
01:53:41,787 --> 01:53:44,827
Speaker 2: one of those converted twenty one points to twelve. Now

2264
01:53:45,187 --> 01:53:48,187
Speaker 2: North Harbor leaed Canterbury at Albany with seven and a

2265
01:53:48,227 --> 01:53:52,307
Speaker 2: half minutes still remaining. Joe Moody still playing for Canterbury.

2266
01:53:52,347 --> 01:53:54,147
Speaker 2: I note they just flashed him up on the screen here.

2267
01:53:54,747 --> 01:53:57,787
Speaker 2: Southland and white cuttle and in the Cargo just gone

2268
01:53:57,827 --> 01:54:00,067
Speaker 2: half an hour there and Southland have scored a tripe

2269
01:54:00,387 --> 01:54:03,547
Speaker 2: fourteen points to five White Cutter over the Stags down

2270
01:54:03,627 --> 01:54:07,827
Speaker 2: in the Cargo. But of league football going on as well.

2271
01:54:08,187 --> 01:54:10,387
Speaker 2: Kashmere Tech have made a bit of a statement early

2272
01:54:10,867 --> 01:54:13,027
Speaker 2: in the season. It's round one this weekend. They've beaten

2273
01:54:13,107 --> 01:54:16,187
Speaker 2: Western Suburbs four nil. That was away from home. That

2274
01:54:16,267 --> 01:54:18,267
Speaker 2: was at Western Suburbs home ground of in Deva Park,

2275
01:54:18,587 --> 01:54:21,267
Speaker 2: Cashmere Tech winning that one for nil. That was an

2276
01:54:21,267 --> 01:54:23,067
Speaker 2: early game. A couple of games going on at the moment.

2277
01:54:23,547 --> 01:54:26,627
Speaker 2: Auckland City and Birkenhead had just kicked off nil mill there.

2278
01:54:26,747 --> 01:54:31,187
Speaker 2: Napier City Rovers meantime lead Western Springs three nil approaching

2279
01:54:31,227 --> 01:54:33,507
Speaker 2: half time in their match in Napier. So a good

2280
01:54:33,547 --> 01:54:36,987
Speaker 2: start in coming for the boys from the Hawk's Bay

2281
01:54:37,187 --> 01:54:41,867
Speaker 2: in the National League. Four men two forty when we

2282
01:54:41,987 --> 01:54:44,987
Speaker 2: come back We're off to Canada this time where the

2283
01:54:45,307 --> 01:54:48,627
Speaker 2: Black Ferns are. They're in the WXV one series. This

2284
01:54:48,787 --> 01:54:53,147
Speaker 2: is the Elite women's rugby International competition to end the year.

2285
01:54:53,187 --> 01:54:55,507
Speaker 2: They've got three test matches coming up over the next

2286
01:54:55,747 --> 01:54:59,027
Speaker 2: three weeks. They play England in France, but first up

2287
01:54:59,067 --> 01:55:02,907
Speaker 2: it's Ireland tomorrow in Vancouver. Assistant coach Mike Delaney going

2288
01:55:02,947 --> 01:55:03,667
Speaker 2: to join us after this.

2289
01:55:05,267 --> 01:55:07,667
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2290
01:55:07,867 --> 01:55:11,107
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2291
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