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Speaker 1: Very so.

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Speaker 2: Per senior political correspondent is with us.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Barry, Good afternoon, Heather. What do you make of

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Speaker 1: the building.

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Speaker 2: Of these trusted builders being able to certify themselves. Why

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Speaker 2: are you laughing?

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Speaker 1: Well, because I knew you would love the topic being

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Speaker 1: a builder yourself.

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Speaker 2: Having waited for building and spise.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, And I mean a lot of people probably

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Speaker 1: don't know. On average it takes almost five hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy days to build a house in this country. Ridiculous

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Speaker 1: and that's basically waiting for consent. And the point that

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Speaker 1: Chris Pink, the Building Minister, makes is that, look, there's

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Speaker 1: a housing shortage at the moment. We've got to get

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Speaker 1: houses built. And you remember Labor went there with its

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Speaker 1: key we Build program and of course with these consents

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Speaker 1: being in place, it would have taken multiple years to

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Speaker 1: achieve the one hundred thousand houses. But so on the

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Speaker 1: face of it, it looks really good. You're going to

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Speaker 1: get how was built more quickly. Businesses with a proven

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Speaker 1: track record, according to Chris Pink, like those that build

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Speaker 1: hundreds of near identical homes each year, they'll be able

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Speaker 1: to go through a more streamline process, which is good

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Speaker 1: and so builders and building professionals like plumbers, train layers,

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Speaker 1: they'll be able to certify their own work without the

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Speaker 1: need for an inspection. Now that got me thinking the

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Speaker 1: last time that we relaxed building standards in this country.

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Speaker 1: Clearly they have to be relaxed because you have to

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Speaker 1: wait far too long to get a consent. It's just

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Speaker 1: it's so cumbersome. But was back in nineteen ninety one

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Speaker 1: the Boulder government they brought in the Building Act and

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Speaker 1: that changed building controls from a prescriptive system to a

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Speaker 1: more self regulated system. Now you know what happened there

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Speaker 1: The builders without modeled homes of Mediterranean style houses in

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Speaker 1: this climate that were totally unsuitable. And of course we

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Speaker 1: had so many homes that were built that were leaky buildings,

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Speaker 1: which was terrible and the cost has put at twenty

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Speaker 1: three billion dollars for eighty nine thousand buildings during the

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Speaker 1: period that these leaky homes were being able to be built. Well,

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Speaker 1: that was all changed by head Girl Helen Clark when

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Speaker 1: she became the Prime Minister. I mean she wanted our

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Speaker 1: showers to be regulated, but she changed all that and

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Speaker 1: it's moved back since then to a much more prescriptive

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Speaker 1: system that takes so long. So I think any relaxation

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Speaker 1: is a good thing. But the devil is in the detail,

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Speaker 1: I guess, and we'll have to wait to see exactly

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Speaker 1: how they're going to qualify to build deprecate.

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Speaker 2: But what is good about this system is that instead

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Speaker 2: of when things go wrong, the council having to bear

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Speaker 2: the cost of that defective work, because they were the

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Speaker 2: ones who inspected and divided, said it's okay, that will

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Speaker 2: now fall on these builders. Right, So if one of them,

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Speaker 2: one of these and they're big guys we're talking about,

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Speaker 2: it's not just like you know, Barry Soaper's construction company

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Speaker 2: from down the road. It's like a god, yeah, nobody

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Speaker 2: would have.

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Speaker 1: Seen some of your handywooks.

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Speaker 2: But I think you know it's these big, big guys.

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Speaker 2: They will have to pay up if they stuff up right, well,

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Speaker 2: insurance will pay.

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Speaker 1: It would seem that there is a system and going

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Speaker 1: to be paid. I like that where they will be

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Speaker 1: held much more accountable. And if they're going to take

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Speaker 1: on their self certification, then they're going to be very careful,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine, to ensure that the building is right

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Speaker 1: and not leaky like this said in the past.

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Speaker 2: Does Labor need to take the socials off Ginny?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know people that go on the Hosking Show,

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Speaker 1: the politicians, are they jinxed in some way because we

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Speaker 1: had stun Ash and you know look where he ended up.

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Speaker 1: Now we've got Ginny Henderson on the Wednesdays.

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Speaker 2: Slot and you would be upset about that.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I wouldn't compare us due to Ginny Anderson,

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Speaker 1: but you know, you you remember in February this year

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Speaker 1: that she claimed that Mark Mitchell, the police minister, and

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Speaker 1: she was the former former police minister, he was paid

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Speaker 1: to kill people and she asked him whether he kept

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Speaker 1: telling of how many people he had shot while it

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Speaker 1: was just it was so offensive, it was unbelievable. Somebody

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Speaker 1: would say that in public, Well she had to. Well,

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Speaker 1: she didn't really apologize. She said that she went too far,

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Speaker 1: and it would seem this is the same sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know you've got Andrew Bailey for the

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Speaker 1: National Party. Well, I think she's much worse in some

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Speaker 1: of the stuff that she's been doing. And we see

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Speaker 1: now she posted a reposted a meme on her Instagram account. Now,

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Speaker 1: I remember last week seeing this photo of Chris Luxon

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Speaker 1: standing alongside King Charles, and the only thing that I

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Speaker 1: thought was what a shabby suit the Kings turned out?

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Speaker 1: And then I sort of forgave him to some extent.

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Speaker 1: It was shabby, it was awful. It was badly fitted.

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Speaker 1: And I think, I think maybe the poor man, because

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Speaker 1: he has been terrible away, maybe well you think the

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Speaker 1: tailors would come in and make him look a bit

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Speaker 1: smarter than what he did. The point that was, that

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Speaker 1: was the only point that I looked at the fire,

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Speaker 1: It's all. But others saw his crutch area looking like

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Speaker 1: female genitalia, and they put out a meme to that extent,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was patently absurd. She do. She went

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Speaker 1: and reposted the meme and then went, I'm sorry, I've

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Speaker 1: got to take it down. It's causing people offense. I mean, please, Jinny,

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Speaker 1: get your act together.

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Speaker 2: Berry, Thank you, Barris strong opinions, Strong opinions about this

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Speaker 2: khaki colored suit is a khaki safari colored suit. Barry Sober,

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Speaker 2: Senior Political correspondence.

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