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Speaker 1: Setting the news agendas and digging into the issues. Heather

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Speaker 1: Do for ce Ellen on the mic, asking breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial, and

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Speaker 1: rural news talks had be.

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Speaker 2: Morning and welcome. Coming up today, the grim state of

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Speaker 2: how New Zealand's books are laid bare. There are five

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Speaker 2: hundred million dollar surplus and may turned into a nearly

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Speaker 2: chief executive how this happened after seven no trouble getting

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Speaker 2: people wanting to join the cops, the Police Association on that,

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Ashley Church about why we've

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Speaker 2: got all of those ghost houses, about eleven one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eleven thousand of them, and Carrington will wrap the

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Speaker 2: week after eight.

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Speaker 1: Ever do for Cea Ellen.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think that we give enough credit

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Speaker 2: these days. So here's a little bit of credit. Erica

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Speaker 2: Stanford fully deserves her ranking as Cabinets MVP, Player of

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Speaker 2: the Year, Player of the Day, number one performer. Whatever

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Speaker 2: you want to give her, she deserves it. The CEOs

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Speaker 2: and the directors who gave her that ranking. In the

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Speaker 2: mood of the boardroom yesterday, can clearly see what we see,

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Speaker 2: which is that she is putting the common sends back

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Speaker 2: into education. She's getting rid of the weird stuff that's

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Speaker 2: it isn't. Actually. The education portfolio is a portfolio that

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Speaker 2: ranks up there, kind of not quite as high, but

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Speaker 2: not far behind education a sorry health as a no

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Speaker 2: win portfolio. You know, ministers are lucky if they can

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Speaker 2: make it through the term without being demonized, and that's

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Speaker 2: largely because the teachers' unions are some of the most

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Speaker 2: obstructive players out there, and us parents, frankly don't help.

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Speaker 2: We've all got an opinion on everything to do with

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Speaker 2: our kids. But Eric is almost taking the Roger Douglas

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Speaker 2: approach of moving so fast that opponents can hardly catch

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Speaker 2: it's not just the politics that she's managing to do

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Speaker 2: quite well on this. She's actually got some wins under

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Speaker 2: year into the term. Most noticeably, the ban on phones

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Speaker 2: and schools. I mean, do you remember when they first

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Speaker 2: pitched that and how we poo poed it and we

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Speaker 2: needs to do what she is doing. That's what really

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Speaker 2: makes her the MVP and cabinet. Education is vital the

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Speaker 2: three concerns for this country because if we don't get

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Speaker 2: that we're not getting it right at the moment. You

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Speaker 2: and thinking that you're getting it right. So Erica deserves

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Speaker 2: her ranking at number one because she's good and she

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Speaker 1: News of the World in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Hurrican Helene deathtole continues to rise. This recovery volunteer describes

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Speaker 2: what she sees.

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Speaker 3: The street is completely flooded. Everybody on the street whilst

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Speaker 2: Which Kamala Harris is on the job though.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of work that's going to need to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it isn't going to be easy.

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Speaker 2: All that have come to challenge in the cow slow

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Speaker 2: spins down. Now over to the Middle East. While Israel

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Speaker 2: are figuring out the Iran situation, they have attacked the

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Speaker 6: Out there, we are told.

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Speaker 1: When it was struck at one thirty.

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Speaker 6: Last night by the Israelis, local residents saying they heard

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Speaker 7: What a plan to allow.

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Speaker 1: Israel's straight back and gets run first.

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Speaker 8: Well, we don't allow Israel. We the advisor is reel

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Speaker 2: Now, just how far away and this is a question

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Speaker 9: It's a show that it can make weapon grade uranium.

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Speaker 9: It's fishing quantities for a nuclear weapon within within days.

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Speaker 2: And finally a piece of Beetles memorabilia could hit the

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Speaker 2: seven figure Market's an electric guitar now. It was played

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Speaker 2: and that is the news of the world. In ninety seconds,

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Speaker 2: Apparently we've got, as I was telling you just before,

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Speaker 10: Hello Andrew, Yeah, good morning, Heather.

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Speaker 2: Are you watching this big market moving event? Tonight in

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Speaker 10: Oh yes, I am very excited. This is the US market.

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Speaker 11: Yep, big market moving event, this evening their non farm

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Speaker 10: They've still got a dual mandate. Now, remember we used.

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Speaker 11: Slightly shift the Feds focus from inflation where they're comfortable

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Speaker 11: things are moving in the right direction, towards employment, towards

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Speaker 11: under too much stress. So in that context, the job's

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Speaker 11: Now I'm just having a wee little look at data

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Speaker 10: It came in at fifty four point nine, so is

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Speaker 11: I do also just need to quickly mention Heather the

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Speaker 11: I haven't been able to find these comments, but apparently

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Speaker 11: a bit worried about this general instability, So Brent Crew's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it came through earlier yesterday. I thought

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Speaker 2: don't know why they're too worried about that.

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Speaker 10: No, exactly, I can't find the comments.

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Speaker 11: I'm going to I'm going to augmentor or add another

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Speaker 11: peaked my interest because of the sort of burgaining discussion

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Speaker 10: But look, this week the IMF have.

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Speaker 11: Released their regular audit on Australia. Now they do this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, too right, Andrew, go ahead, enjoy your weekend. Thank

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Speaker 2: Health New Zealand. This is some of the biggest news

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Speaker 16: This is the thing.

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Speaker 2: Because until AI can press a button for you and

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Speaker 2: Unless it can do that, it doesn't take over of

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Speaker 2: going to happen is that when we realize finally that

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Speaker 2: it's not going to live up to its potential, there

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Speaker 2: will be a massive crash. The only question is when

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Speaker 2: do we realize, and by that stage, how much money

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Speaker 2: have we put into it. The best case scenario is

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Speaker 2: that we realize in about a year's time and then

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Speaker 2: we haven't actually put all that Like, we'll put lots

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Speaker 2: of money in, but not that much, and so we

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Speaker 2: have a bit of a tech crash, a tech stock crash,

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Speaker 2: and then that's it basically over and done with, and

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Speaker 2: we carry on and we sort of, you know, use

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Speaker 2: it in a middling way. The worst case scenario is

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Speaker 2: that it goes on for absolutely years. We pump hundreds

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Speaker 2: of billions of dollars into it, we talk it up

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Speaker 2: we talk it up, we talk it up, the stocks

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Speaker 2: keep going up. We are wasting money, We're laying off people,

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Speaker 2: replacing them with AI or trying to, and then we

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Speaker 2: realize it's not going to do it, and then the

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Speaker 2: crash that comes after that is much much bigger. So

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Speaker 2: next time you hear the hype, go M I don't know,

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Speaker 2: is it just that question? If the chap from MIT,

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Speaker 2: not manic our Institute of Technology is questioning it, maybe

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Speaker 2: we should to. Seventeen away from seven, The.

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power By

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Speaker 2: Heather Wellington and Hamilton are both university cities that will

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Speaker 2: explaying the home ownership rates. That's from Rachel Hei the

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Speaker 2: thank you for saying that about AI. It's a nauseating

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Speaker 2: hand ringing fad. That's from David. Look at that for

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Speaker 2: Peter's a truth coming at You're fourteen away from seven.

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Speaker 18: International Correspondence with ends at Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 18: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold, US correspondent with US Morning. Richard, Hey there, head, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what do you make of the Trump the new filing

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Speaker 2: and the Trump Jan six stuff?

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Speaker 19: Well, there's a lot in it. We're talking one hundred

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Speaker 19: and sixty five pages that have just been put out

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Speaker 19: by the prosecutor, Jack Smith. You know, they say the

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Speaker 19: wills have justice did slowly. It is almost three years

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Speaker 19: since the Capital riots of January the sixth, So here

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Speaker 19: we are just over what four weeks from the twenty

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Speaker 19: four elections. If Trump wins this thing, he will no

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Speaker 19: doubt end the criminal case against him. If he loses,

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Speaker 19: this will go after court. But none of it happens

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Speaker 19: before the presidential election. So much for the justice system.

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Speaker 19: It is a race what prosecutors should do, especially after

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Speaker 19: the conservative dominated Supreme Court intervened and ruled that a

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Speaker 19: president cannot be criminally charged over official acts. Were Trump's

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Speaker 19: actions on that day of the riot? Official? Well No

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Speaker 19: argues that the prosecutor much of what Trump did then

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Speaker 19: could never be called official. Smith has just issued this

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Speaker 19: lengthy document making that argument, and he includes some new

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Speaker 19: details about what happened on the day. He says, when

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Speaker 19: Trump was told that the capital had been breached and

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Speaker 19: his vice president, Mike Pence was in danger for his life,

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Speaker 19: he said, quote, so what the attackers who were threatening

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Speaker 19: Pency's life came to within fifteen meters of the VP.

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Speaker 19: At another point, Trump was heard telling his daughter and

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Speaker 19: son in law, quote, it doesn't matter if you won

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Speaker 19: or lost the election, you still have the You have

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Speaker 19: to fight like hell.

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Speaker 15: That's what he also told the crowd.

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Speaker 1: We fight, We fight like hell, and if you don't

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Speaker 1: fight like hell, you're not going to have.

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Speaker 15: A country anymore.

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Speaker 19: Well, five people died many were injured on that day,

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Speaker 19: including one hundred and seventy four police officers. Now, Trump

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Speaker 19: says he's going to pardon those who were found guilty

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Speaker 19: of crimes. How would they decide who gets out of jail?

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Speaker 19: Trump says he the Donald would be the one who

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Speaker 19: decides it, makes the call. Four officers who responded to

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Speaker 19: the attack took their own lives Within seven months of

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Speaker 19: the events. Property damage caused by the attack has succeeded

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Speaker 19: four point three million New Zealand. This comes as the

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Speaker 19: Kamala Harris campaign has just released a campaign ad using

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Speaker 19: a clip from the Vance Walls to Bank this week.

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Speaker 1: This ad, it's really rich for democratic leaders to say

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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy.

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Speaker 15: Twenty peacefuls to the over power. He is still saying

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Speaker 15: he didn't lose the election. I would just say to that,

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Speaker 15: how did he lose the twenty twenty election? Sem, I'm

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Speaker 15: focused on the future. That is a damning non answer.

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Speaker 19: Well, former Republican Leadership member Liz Cheney is off campaigning

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Speaker 19: with Kamala Harrison Wisconsin today, so that's how the will turns.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 19: Milania Trump has a memoir coming out later this week

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Speaker 19: where she defends abortion rights, so in sharp contrast to

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Speaker 19: her husband.

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Speaker 12: Without a doubt, there is no room for compromise when

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Speaker 12: it comes to this essential right.

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Speaker 19: So Trump, the former First Lady split over one of

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Speaker 19: the most significant campaign issues.

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Speaker 2: Richard We now officially can say that Hurricane Helena is

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Speaker 2: worse than Katrina. Can't be based on the death toll.

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Speaker 19: Well, it's getting up there. They're comparing it to Katrina,

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Speaker 19: probably second on the list because Katrina was just so, so,

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Speaker 19: so devastating. But the death toll from Hurricane Helene keeps

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Speaker 19: going up. It's now more than two hundred people dead

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Speaker 19: from the floods caused by the storm this week. Scores

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Speaker 19: of people still are missing. A local mayor says they

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Speaker 19: expect the numbers to keep rising. Roads and communications are out.

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Speaker 19: President Biden took a survey by air of the damage

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Speaker 19: in North Carolina and says the recovery cost will be

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Speaker 19: into the billions. No one as yet has realistic numbers

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Speaker 19: on any of this. Biden and Harris are visiting storm

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Speaker 19: effected spots in Georgioram, and Biden also is heading to

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Speaker 19: Florida today. You know, the Dixon family say they were

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Speaker 19: among many who were caught by surprise when the creek

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Speaker 19: behind their North Carolina home became a raging torrent before

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Speaker 19: I knew it, and the homeowner's father was swept away

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Speaker 19: to his death. Another man says his wife still is

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Speaker 19: among the missing.

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Speaker 7: He looked outside and there was a thirty foot tall

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Speaker 7: wall of water and rocks and tree debris just coming

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Speaker 7: at us, and it just knocked out straight down with

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Speaker 7: all of us in it, and we all got washed

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Speaker 7: down river. I crawled around screaming looking for it, and

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Speaker 7: I just couldn't find it.

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Speaker 19: You know, Biden has sent in a thousand active duty

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Speaker 19: troops to help.

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Speaker 13: Well.

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Speaker 19: Jose Andres also was on scene. He is remarkable. He

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Speaker 19: is the chef who in recent times turned into a

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Speaker 19: one man led relief agency. He had food set up

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Speaker 19: in Poland, you were call for fleeing Ukrainians. He had

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Speaker 19: food trucks that went into Gaza and Haiti earlier on

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Speaker 19: and now he says of the situation in North Carolina.

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Speaker 7: His hundreds, if not thousands of roads, it's hundreds of

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Speaker 7: bridges broken.

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Speaker 1: It's the devastation is so huge. But you are creative,

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Speaker 1: you don gifa.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, this man is amazing.

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Speaker 2: Richard's good to talk to you. Enjoy your weekend. Thanks

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Speaker 2: so much, as Richard Arnold US correspondents. Seven, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: have a little chat to Principals Federation because what we're

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Speaker 2: about to find out today, we're gonna get a clear

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Speaker 2: idea today what we can afford to build on our

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Speaker 2: school properties and whether we've been doing it wrong. And

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Speaker 2: I think we know I've been doing it wrong because

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Speaker 2: we've had a bunch of school properties, classrooms, pause, relocations, moved,

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Speaker 2: co locations, canceled, all that kind of stuff. So after

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Speaker 2: seven o'clock, chat to the principles and just see if

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Speaker 2: there is a better way of doing it than the

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Speaker 2: way we've been doing it. Nine away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Ever, Dolzellen on the my casking breakfast with our Veda

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Speaker 1: retirement Communities News togs Hea'd be.

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Speaker 2: Hey, this is a kind of a weird one in

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Speaker 2: terms of punching above our I don't know what's the same,

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Speaker 2: punching above our weight. Yeah, that's the right one, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: We're actually doing really well in acne apparently globally, so

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Speaker 2: while the rest of the world are seeing acne rates

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Speaker 2: go up, we are seeing our acne rates decrease. It

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Speaker 2: could be a couple of things to blame for this.

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Speaker 2: Could be that we are actually just leading better lifestyles,

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Speaker 2: like eating better food, getting outdoors a bit more, doing

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Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. But maybe we're just not

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Speaker 2: counting it as well. Maybe we just have stopped going

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Speaker 2: to the dermatologist. We'll have a chat to the Dermological

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Speaker 2: Society after I round about quarter past seven about that.

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Speaker 2: Here's I'll tell you what. So I've been going through

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Speaker 2: the Sense of Starter because there's some interesting stuff in there.

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Speaker 2: And it's the first time that we've counted the Rainbow community.

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Speaker 2: So we know one in five people are part of

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Speaker 2: the Rainbow community, and we've got you know, the tide

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Speaker 2: Al Mardi speakers increasing. It's about two hundred thousand people now,

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Speaker 2: got siggy smoking rates down half since twenty thirteen, so

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Speaker 2: you can kind of get a snapshot of what's going

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Speaker 2: on in the country. This is I can't keep my

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Speaker 2: head around this. Landline use has dropped dramatically, right, It's halved.

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Speaker 2: It's halved in the space of five years, which is

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Speaker 2: pretty significant. In twenty eighteen we had sixty two percent

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Speaker 2: of people with a landline. We currently have thirty one

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Speaker 2: percent of people with a landline, who has a landline,

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Speaker 2: who actually is rolling a landline in their house. I

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Speaker 2: haven't had a landline since I moved out of my

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Speaker 2: mum's house. And what was that. I was eighteen years old.

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Speaker 2: I went back a few times to dida't night to

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Speaker 2: get more washing done, so twenty one years old and

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Speaker 2: moved out and they have not had a landline number

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Speaker 2: since then. And I don't understand in what like Okay,

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Speaker 2: I can understand if you're sort of a certain age

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Speaker 2: you still need to have one because that's that, you know,

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Speaker 2: the cell phones are complicated. I get that, but thirty

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Speaker 2: one percent. What's going on New Zealand four away from

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Speaker 2: seven all.

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Speaker 1: The ins and the outs, it's the fiz with business

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Speaker 1: fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, September was another bad month for retailers. This comes

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Speaker 2: from Worldline data. It found that last month, consumers spending

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Speaker 2: on care retail merchants excluding hospitality was down three point

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Speaker 2: four percent. That's compared to September last year. Now, it

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Speaker 2: was thought that the recent OCR cut and maybe even

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Speaker 2: another one next week, would start to open the doors

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Speaker 2: again and the spending would get going, but so far

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Speaker 2: that hasn't been passed on. Seventy one percent of members

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Speaker 2: failed to meet their sales targets forty two percent, so

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Speaker 2: that they're uncertain if they're going to survive the next

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Speaker 2: twelve months. So now there is big pressure on Q

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Speaker 2: four of this year, which usually has got a strong

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Speaker 2: December and also is the busiest long weekend period the

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Speaker 2: year between Black Friday and Cyber Monday. From Black Friday

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Speaker 2: until Christmas, when thirty percent of all annual retail sales happen.

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Speaker 2: There is still some hope. Regionally, the place is doing

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Speaker 2: at the toughest of Southland that's down twelve percent, South

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Speaker 2: Canterbury that's down seven and a half percent, and Bay

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Speaker 2: of Plenty down five and a half percent. Heather, lots

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Speaker 2: of places still don't have cell phone coverage. Hither we

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Speaker 2: have a landline as we don't have cell phone coverage. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so farmers, farmers, farmers and older people I can get that.

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Speaker 2: I think some parents have it just in case you

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Speaker 2: need to get a hold of the child who hasn't

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Speaker 2: got a cell phone. And that makes sense as well

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Speaker 2: child has a landline. You can't access pawns through a landline.

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Speaker 2: So yes, Health New Zealand with us next.

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Speaker 1: They us bold opinions, Heather due to Sea Allen on

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Speaker 1: the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Jaguar f base cut

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Speaker 2: Hey, good morning to you. Mike's back with you on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Now to the news. The dire state of House New

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Speaker 2: Zealand's books has been laid bare. It turns out the

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Speaker 2: deficit is near a billion dollars and that is worse

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Speaker 2: than expecting with us Now is House New Zealand's chief

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Speaker 2: executive Margi Upper Hey, Marjie, Oh, good morning. How did

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Speaker 2: you guys go from expecting a surplus of about five

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Speaker 2: hundred million bucks in March to then a deficit of

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Speaker 2: nearly a billion dollars in June.

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Speaker 12: Probably three key drivers a comment on heaper. We certainly

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Speaker 12: recruited a head of budget, so we have ended the

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Speaker 12: year with over our four thousand more clinical staff, of

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Speaker 12: which half a round and budget. We did have someone

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Speaker 12: off that landed in Q four, which on reflection, we

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Speaker 12: really should have smoothed junior year, which would have made

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Speaker 12: our monthly financial show that we weren't as in as

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Speaker 12: positive a position as we were, and we've made different

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Speaker 12: decisions and of timing the we got. We ended a

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Speaker 12: period of gene still into yet about four hundred and

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Speaker 12: nineteen million pays, which has some receieve we've gotten that

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Speaker 12: last weeks.

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Speaker 2: So if we take take out the one offs, take

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Speaker 2: out their pay equity, and take out the staff that

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Speaker 2: you recruited early, does that mean that next year, next

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Speaker 2: financial year, the one that we're in at the moment,

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Speaker 2: we won't have a deficit.

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Speaker 12: We're working to try to get back to budget, but

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Speaker 12: we don't want to. You know, we've got good clinical

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Speaker 12: staff and place, so we want to make sure that

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Speaker 12: we're getting really big value out of the time of

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Speaker 12: our clinical frontline people and in particular achieving targets because

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Speaker 12: that's that's the big delivery priority for Health New Zealands

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Speaker 12: to meet those short weaight times.

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Speaker 2: That didn't sound like you were super confident you're going

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Speaker 2: to be able to get back into surplus.

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Speaker 12: We're we're tattoed. So we've managed to stop our cost growth,

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Speaker 12: particularly in this past quarter, so we're tat title stabilized

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Speaker 12: in this quarter. The rest of the year we do

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Speaker 12: the take out some costs. We've got to also balance

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Speaker 12: that with making sure we deliver on the targets and

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Speaker 12: use the kind of call workforce that we've gone Madia.

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Speaker 2: You guys still losing more than one hundred million bucks

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Speaker 2: a month.

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Speaker 12: We're spending at a rate of more than one hundred

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Speaker 12: million a month. Yes, and there's some that hasn't changed

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Speaker 12: the initiatives we've got underway. It's plateaued over the last

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Speaker 12: this quarter.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So okay, So it was growing beforehand, it's now

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Speaker 2: not growing now. It's just sitting at that level. But

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Speaker 2: you've got to bring that down, don't you.

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Speaker 12: Yes, yes, we need to reduce our call all right here.

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Speaker 2: On the bright side, on the targets, you have managed

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Speaker 2: to hit four of the five targets now not by

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Speaker 2: a lot, right, So is that just because it's over

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Speaker 2: only a three month period, it'll just keep keep adding

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Speaker 2: all the little increments together and at the end of

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Speaker 2: the year looks bigger.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: And we also Q four is also our winter season,

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Speaker 12: so we do tend to see it's a passion of

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Speaker 12: not seeing the kind of grower improvement over this period

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Speaker 12: and there'll be a little bit of the tipstay over

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Speaker 12: the July August. Yeah, we're still seeing some winter volume

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Speaker 12: through y through hospitals in particular.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Margie, thanks very much, appreciate Marjorie Upper Health New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Chief Executive.

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Speaker 15: Together Dup c Ellen, we should get.

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Speaker 2: A clearer idea today of what we can afford to

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Speaker 2: build on our school properties. Back in February, you may

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Speaker 2: remember the government launched a review of school property systems

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Speaker 2: after a bunch of classrooms and buildings started getting paused.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Principles Federation. Leanne autanais with us now.

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Speaker 20: Hey, le Anne, oh good morning here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I imagine that what we're going to find

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Speaker 2: out today is we've been wasting money and far too

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Speaker 2: much money on all of the stuff like the design

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Speaker 2: and all that stuff. Before we even get to building

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Speaker 2: the classrooms. Is that what you think?

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Speaker 20: Well, look, first of all, I was interviewed by the

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Speaker 20: review team led by Mary mcaullay earlier in the year,

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Speaker 20: so I can share what I said at that time

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Speaker 20: to support a property plan going forward. I'm hoping they

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Speaker 20: took heed of that advice because school principles and boards

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Speaker 20: and the public have been concerned about property, school property

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Speaker 20: for some time, so we welcomed the review. We you know,

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Speaker 20: we're talking about school property, infrastructure, public infrastructure. There is

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Speaker 20: the response ability of the government. So I'm expecting that

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Speaker 20: money is going to be ring fenced for education because

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Speaker 20: this is a state set because at the end of

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Speaker 20: the day, we want all our children coming to healthy

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Speaker 20: and safe environments so that principles and textis can get

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Speaker 20: on with the job of tecting and learning. Our young

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Speaker 20: people deserved have the best.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that the answer is to go for

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Speaker 2: something a little bit more standardized than a bespoke design

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Speaker 2: for every single school, So like, this is what a

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Speaker 2: classroom looks like, this is what a school layout looks like.

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Speaker 2: We just roll that out.

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Speaker 20: Well, look, we need a long term plan for property.

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Speaker 20: You know, we need to be proactive so that we

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Speaker 20: have quality environments. We need to have confidence in our

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Speaker 20: public schools have you know, like I said, healthy, safe,

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Speaker 20: fit for purpose infrastructure, and that just means warm and

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Speaker 20: dry classrooms. We also need to make sure that those

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Speaker 20: schools that are prone to flooding or poor drainage need

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Speaker 20: specific support to ensure all is done to eliminate any

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Speaker 20: of the risks going forward. So you know that's extremely important.

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Speaker 20: But you know, key to all of us Number one

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Speaker 20: firstly is the health and safety of our children as paramount.

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Speaker 20: So I'm hoping that this report and everything in it

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Speaker 20: is on that basis of you know, that is the

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Speaker 20: basis of all decision making. Say, for example, ventilation. We

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Speaker 20: found out during COVID that many of our schools are

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Speaker 20: not upstand it, so you know, adequate ventilation and summer

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Speaker 20: and heating and winter. Another is mold. We had an

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Speaker 20: example of where the Minister visited a special school earlier

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Speaker 20: in the year in saw mold and we thank you

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Speaker 20: for giving money to fix this problem. But we've got

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Speaker 20: other schools with similar problems. Rural schools. We see that,

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Speaker 20: you know, reticulation in rural schools needs to be attended

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Speaker 20: to so wastewater and freshwater is of high quality. So

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Speaker 20: it's talking about our old stock, what's already out there,

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Speaker 20: and also planning for the future because we know we've

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Speaker 20: got role growth as well that we have to deal with.

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Speaker 20: And there's plenty of examples of where we meet we've

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Speaker 20: got kids squashed into old dent meaning in a way, it's.

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Speaker 2: Not just about what we do in the future, is

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Speaker 2: how we fix the stuff we've already got. Leanne, thanks

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Speaker 2: very much, Leanne Ortonny, who's the New Zealand Principles Federation

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Speaker 2: President ever du for see Allen Jamien O'Connor has put

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Speaker 2: out a tweet. Damian O'Connor putting out tweets is usually

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Speaker 2: something that we should all be a little bit afraid of.

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Speaker 2: This time, it says, I removed the retweet. Now this

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Speaker 2: is the retweet that's got him in trouble about the

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Speaker 2: Palestinian situation where he basically said Palestinians he retweeted somebody

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Speaker 2: saying Palestinians were completely justified and doing whatever they did

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Speaker 2: in October the seventh said, I removed the retweet. Nothing

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Speaker 2: justifies torture, kidnapping or killing of innocent people. Not before,

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Speaker 2: on nor after October seven. I do not condone such behavior.

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Speaker 2: Understanding why atrocities occur is critical to prevent repeats. To

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Speaker 2: feel like a sort of trying to make an excuse,

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Speaker 2: champ or whatever. As UN Secretary General says, tit for

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Speaker 2: tat attacks must stop. It's not an apology, it's not

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Speaker 2: even an admission of guilt, but it's something. Something's better

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Speaker 2: than nothing, Isn't it so well done? Damien fourteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News

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Speaker 2: The Police Association is with us after half past seven,

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Speaker 2: talk us through those amazing recruitment numbers at the moment

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Speaker 2: seventeen past seven now turns out that we are the

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Speaker 2: only country, as far as we know, in the world

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Speaker 2: where acne rates are actually falling. Everywhere else they appear

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Speaker 2: to be going up. And to explain why we have

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Speaker 2: Louise Reiker from the New Zealand Dermatological Society with us

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 21: He Louise, good morning, Heather.

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Speaker 2: So can we put this down to just us having

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Speaker 2: a better lifestyle, cleaner food, getting outdoors, more or less pollution,

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Speaker 2: that kind of thing.

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Speaker 21: That would be very attractive wouldn't it that When you

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Speaker 21: look at the details of the research, they based it

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Speaker 21: on the number of people who attended healthcare appointments with

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Speaker 21: respect that they're acne. So then you think, is it

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Speaker 21: because people don't have as much atney or they're not

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Speaker 21: as bothered, they're not going for as many appointments. Could

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Speaker 21: it be that because New Zealand actually is the head

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Speaker 21: of the world in providing access to the best medication

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Speaker 21: for acne as a treat one that would be attractive

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Speaker 21: because that would show that having broader access to effective

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Speaker 21: treatment for people really does make a huge difference to

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Speaker 21: healthcare workload but also more importantly to patient disease burden.

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Speaker 21: But another explanation might be sadly, because our workforce is

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Speaker 21: so short that it's too hard for people to get

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Speaker 21: into appointments, and therefore you don't get the numbers recorded

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Speaker 21: about coming to a team to an appointment about that, yeah,

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Speaker 21: possibly an appointment.

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Speaker 2: Possibly we don't even want to pay for the appointments

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Speaker 2: because we're broke at the moment. How do we actually

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Speaker 2: find out then, how do we know for once and

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Speaker 2: for all whether we're actually doing well or not well?

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Speaker 21: We'd have to set up a complete new epidemological study

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Speaker 21: to assess that.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so it's good job.

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Speaker 21: That's not the nature of the study that was undertaken

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Speaker 21: compared to the right across the world.

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Speaker 2: Louise, while I've got you, did you see this thing

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Speaker 2: on social media the other day where they are recommending

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Speaker 2: that people that they being social media nutters who recommend

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Speaker 2: that people with acney go and get a sunburn or

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Speaker 2: sit in a tanning bed to get rid of it.

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Speaker 21: No, I didn't see that to you. Wow, you aren't

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Speaker 21: going to sid as getting a sunburn. We do know

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Speaker 21: that the sunlight is a minisuppressive and it will help acne.

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Speaker 21: But you can get the improvement without the sunburn by

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Speaker 21: putting on a non oily sunscreen before you get out

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Speaker 21: and get to that door exit.

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Speaker 2: Ah okay, so at the heart of a bit of

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Speaker 2: sun is a good thing. Just too much sun not Louise,

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Speaker 2: Thank you appreciate it, Louise.

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Speaker 15: Rik it.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Dermatological Society on the landlords, landlines, land lines?

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Speaker 2: Did I open a can of worms of water here?

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Speaker 2: The landlines are the only things that will work in

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Speaker 2: an emergency. Your cell will go down long before your landline.

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Speaker 2: Hither we've got no cell phones and coverage and we've

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Speaker 2: got spotty internet. Not all of us live in a

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Speaker 2: crappy city.

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Speaker 16: How did they text you that?

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Speaker 2: Yep, obviously you do because you send a text here.

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Speaker 2: The monitored security systems need a landline. I hate it,

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Speaker 2: but one needs one for one's home and one's batch.

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Speaker 2: It does one one does here that we get a

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Speaker 2: free land line with rural Internet provider. Isn't it okay?

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Speaker 2: Listen if you get if the if the guys say

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Speaker 2: to you, I'm going to give you broadband and you're

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Speaker 2: gonna get a free land line, why did you take it?

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Speaker 2: Because that's like somebody coming to you and being like,

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Speaker 2: if you buy this car, you can have this sock.

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Speaker 2: Why you don't want the sock?

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Speaker 5: Why?

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Speaker 2: But in your head it's a bit of deal, now,

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Speaker 2: isn't it, Because you've got a landline, but you actually

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Speaker 2: want the landline. So you know what's going to happen

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Speaker 2: as the polsters are going to call you and that's

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Speaker 1: Heather Do for cels.

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Speaker 2: Seven twenty four. Do you know what do you know

904
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Speaker 2: what's more boring than talking about a capital gains tax

905
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: is talking about superannuation, isn't it? And yet here we again,

906
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: we're talking about it again and how we need to

907
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: take the super off the sixty five year olds again

908
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: because of what happened yesterday. Now, what happened yesterday was

909
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: that for a brief minute, the two major political parties

910
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: almost found consensus on super but it only lasted a

911
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 2: few hours. So Nicola from National said to Barbara from Labor,

912
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: we should have a chat, and Barbara said, okay, we

913
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Speaker 2: should have a chat. And then Barbara thought about it

914
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: over the next few hours and she's like, sh nah,

915
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Speaker 2: don't really We'll have a chat by sh nah, don't

916
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Speaker 2: really agree with that idea, which I think is a

917
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: wise move from Barbara actually, to be honest, because taking

918
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Speaker 2: super off sixty five year olds is unpopular and it's

919
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: probably always going to be unpopular as long as we

920
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Speaker 2: keep running a welfare system that's so generous in this

921
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: country that people are now pretty much expected to spend

922
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 2: an average of thirteen years on the doll It is very,

923
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: very hard to convince hard working tax payers that when

924
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: they get to their golden years, they should give up

925
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: that little bonus that they get at the end of

926
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Speaker 2: their lives. They should give that up because we need

927
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Speaker 2: to save money. And then they look down the road

928
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: and they see some of them taking the mickey and

929
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: the sunshine forever on the doll. I think it's a

930
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: hard one to push that one. And by the way,

931
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Speaker 2: while we're on the consensus politics, I do not rate

932
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Speaker 2: this idea. I don't care whether it's in super or

933
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Speaker 2: housing or transport. I hate it. I think voters deserve choices.

934
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: I think you should be able to decide if you

935
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Speaker 2: want to cycle lane or if you want to road.

936
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Speaker 2: You might want to cycle lane. You should have that choice.

937
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 2: I might want to road. I should have that choice.

938
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: I think we should decide if we want to have

939
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Speaker 2: three story houses pop up next to us on the

940
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 2: property next door without any consent. I think we should

941
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Speaker 2: decide if we want super taking them away from us

942
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Speaker 2: or not. I don't want the politicians actually getting between

943
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 2: themselves and stitching up a little deal and then leaving

944
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: us no choice and saying deals, mate, we've reached a consensus.

945
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: Just gonna have to have it this sway. That's not

946
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Speaker 2: what I want. It's counter to the very idea of democracy,

947
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 2: which is that you have ideas running against each other

948
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Speaker 2: and you as the vote to get to choose which

949
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Speaker 2: one of the ideas you like. So, frankly, good call

950
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: from Babs. Consensus politics can frankly take a hike, and

951
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: good luck pushing that stupid super debate again, Heather, do

952
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: for se alan here that we got free socks with

953
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Speaker 2: our flights last week. Oh lord, imagine if that was

954
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,479
Speaker 2: what they were like, Hey, if you you can either

955
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Speaker 2: pay one thousand dollars for economy, but if you upgrade

956
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars to business class, we're gonna give you

957
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 2: this free pair of socks. That's basically the landline argument,

958
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 2: isn't it. You don't need it, got a whole drawer

959
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: full of socks, but now you want the pink socks

960
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: for me in New Zealand, don't you. On politics, looks

961
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: like the government's going to make a big announcement on

962
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: housing today, so just keep an eye out for this.

963
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: As being reported, it's gonna announce today it's going to

964
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: underwrite developers so they can get building because quite a

965
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: few developments recently have fallen over or being put on

966
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,959
Speaker 2: hold or just canceled all together, just because it's hard.

967
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: You know, interest rates are up there and people are

968
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: not buying houses and so it's too much risks. So

969
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: from Monday, apparently the government's going to take applications, give

970
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: them a yes or no within weeks, and then give

971
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: them some money to help them out, basically underwrite it,

972
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: and basically we'll give the developers some certainty as to

973
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: whether they can take a risk without taking a bath.

974
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 2: Keep an eye it's coming out today After eight o'clock,

975
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: we'll have a chat to Kerry and Tim and wrap

976
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Speaker 2: the week. And next up we stalk to the Police

977
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Speaker 2: Association about those police recruitment numbers, news dogs that'd.

978
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Speaker 1: Be demanding the answers from the decision makers. Ken then

979
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Speaker 1: Duplessy Allen on the Mike, asking breakfast with Bailey's real

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Speaker 1: estate your local experts across residential, commercial and rural news talks.

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Speaker 16: He'd be hey, so n PC.

982
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, the credit card statements of all

983
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: the MP's have come out. There is some interesting stuff

984
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: going on and there I'll run you through some of that.

985
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: We'll get a minute, you know, very shortly MPC. Now

986
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: yet another MPC club is ditching the big grounds this year.

987
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 2: Remember how the Lions left sky Stadium, which is the Caketon.

988
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: Obviously they went to Portador and then Canterbury went to

989
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: the a mp show Grounds. Auckland has now decided it's

990
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: going to ditch Eden Park. It's going to go play

991
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: at Auckland Grammar's number one field. And basically the thinking

992
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: is the same for all of them. Might imagine, which

993
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: is this too many emptyc and it just makes the

994
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: whole thing look stink And it's much better if it

995
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: looks like they're actually people turning up. So they're going

996
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: to make a festival atmosphere at Auckland Grammar. They're gonna

997
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 2: have the face painters and slides for the kids and

998
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: the whole shebang, so it becomes more of a thing. Right.

999
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: The question is obviously whether this is the future, and

1000
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: I suspect it may well be. I don't know that

1001
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: the broadcasters are going to love it, because it's harder

1002
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: to film if you haven't got that infrastructure like you

1003
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: do at the stadiums. Anyway, I'll have a chat to

1004
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: Jared Bear who's of Auckland Rugby. He's the CEO there.

1005
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: But but I think, you know, it brings me to

1006
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: a bigger problem with MPC, which is I just feel

1007
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: like we have this is not a revelation. You've probably

1008
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: experienced this which has lost interest in it having me

1009
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: because when I was looking at this, so was this

1010
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: said something along the lines of the Auckland goals are

1011
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: going and I was like, what the hell is the

1012
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 2: Auckland goals? It's actually our MPC squad in Auckland, isn't it.

1013
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 15: Well?

1014
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 2: The fact that I don't even know what my MPC

1015
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 2: squad is called Towsey, there's a problem in it twenty

1016
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: one away from it.

1017
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 11: Right.

1018
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: Well, despite all of the doom and the gloom, it

1019
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: turns out cops are having no trouble attracting recruits. More

1020
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: than thirteen hundred applications were made in July. This is

1021
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: the most on record. And to keep up with the demand,

1022
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: the copers are going to increase the capacity at the

1023
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 2: training college. And with me now is the Police Association

1024
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: President Chris Carhill. Hey, Chris, good morning, Heather. So have

1025
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: we been all proven wrong with the warnings that if

1026
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: we give them poor pay, they're all going to go

1027
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 2: to Australia.

1028
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 8: Well, I think we have to say the proofers in

1029
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 8: the pudding.

1030
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 6: Definitely.

1031
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 8: We haven't seen a big exodus, which is a little

1032
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 8: bit surprising because the office are good. But I suppose

1033
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 8: the attractions of far now New Zealander are paying off.

1034
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 8: So that's a positive. And look, you have to say

1035
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 8: these recruit numbers. You know, there's some provisers I'll talk about,

1036
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 8: but again it's very positive to get those sort of numbers.

1037
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: What's the what are the provisos?

1038
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 8: Well, I think the three reasons that we're getting this.

1039
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 8: One is clearly the state of the economy. Police are

1040
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 8: singers with stable employment, so that's going to be an attraction.

1041
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 8: The second is police change the couple of rules. One

1042
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 8: is that you don't have to have a full license

1043
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 8: since when you're apply you have to before you get

1044
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 8: to the college, but not befohen you apply. And the

1045
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 8: second is you don't have to be a New Zealand

1046
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 8: citizen anymore. You have to be only a New Zealand resident.

1047
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 8: So I think that's made a change in what seen applicants.

1048
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 8: So the real key figure will be what's the conversion

1049
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 8: rate of applicants to actual recruits. Currently it's about twelve

1050
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 8: percent of applicants go on to join police. So we

1051
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 8: just need to see that those figures at least stay

1052
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 8: the same percentage of ESE. And if they do, we're

1053
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 8: certainly going to get a lot of recruits.

1054
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: When do they actually drop out? Do they drop out

1055
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: before they go into the college or afterwards?

1056
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 8: Now before they go in, So there's a lot of

1057
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 8: people will apply and then they just don't meet a

1058
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 8: variety of standards that are required. That's the key for

1059
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 8: us is making sure the standards stay high. I mean,

1060
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 8: I think one of the things I'll be interested to

1061
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 8: see and this is a positive, but hassenant issues as

1062
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 8: well as with the residency cause I SUS speak.

1063
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 6: We're going to get a lot.

1064
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 8: Of people which have English as a second language. Now

1065
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 8: that that's great in some ways that you're getting diversity

1066
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 8: and they'll be different place of policing which will reflect

1067
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 8: what New Zealand's becoming as well. So that's good, but

1068
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 8: it does make life hard for them as an officer

1069
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 8: and there needs a lot more support around them, especially

1070
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 8: in the early stages.

1071
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: Do we not have a language standard because surely there

1072
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 2: should be a language standard. I mean, if you've got

1073
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: somebody taking down notes about what's happening and quoting you back,

1074
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: there's some nuance in the language that's really important, isn't that.

1075
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1076
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 8: No, And there's certainly the language standard. But I mean

1077
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 8: it's just the fact that life, when it's your second language,

1078
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 8: it presents more challenges and as I say, that can

1079
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 8: be positive, but it doesn't mean there needs to be

1080
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 8: more support around them, especially when it's how you know,

1081
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 8: the comprehension of what someone might say and what they

1082
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 8: mean can be different, and it's just making sure that

1083
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 8: those nuances are worked through. It's not a bad thing.

1084
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 8: It just means there needs to be a plenty of

1085
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 8: supporter around those officers that apply. But look, we can't

1086
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Speaker 8: get away from those sort of figures. They're quite startling

1087
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 8: figures and as I say, we do need to see

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00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 8: that conversion rate.

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Speaker 6: But it's positive.

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Speaker 2: Chris, good to talk to you. Thank you very much. Mate,

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Speaker 2: really appreciated that. As Chris car Hill of the Police Association,

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Speaker 2: Heather not what about the beers. I'm sure you're not

1093
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 2: going to be able to buy alcohol from Auckland Grammar's fields.

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Speaker 2: That's a source of revenue, a massive one for all events. Well,

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Speaker 2: I read the press release it said Captain Beer is

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00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: still floating around. I feel like Captain Beer is the

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Speaker 2: beer mascot, probably an indication there will be beers there.

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Speaker 2: What do you think sounds I think you'll be It

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00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: sounds like you're gonna be okay if you need the

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00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 2: beers there and then you go down the giant slide

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Speaker 2: with the kids. Listen, Okay, here we go. This is

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00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 2: what's gone on the credit card spending list. Okay, Prime

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00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 2: Minister Christopher Luxen spent about nine hundred and sixty four dollars.

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00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 2: Don't under sixty three dollars and fifty cents. I don't

1105
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: want to misquote the man on money because you know

1106
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: he's in trouble with that already in the news this week.

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00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 2: So nine hundred and sixty three dollars and fifty cents

1108
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Speaker 2: was what was on his credit card for three months.

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Speaker 15: Right.

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00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: The biggest, biggest item a harmonica, definitely the most expensive

1111
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: and also the weirdest thing that he bought. It's a

1112
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: super chro monica hundred and ninety nine dollars from the

1113
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: rock Shop in Albany this week in Auckland, I feel

1114
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: like you can buy a guitar for that price, So

1115
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 2: I feel like that's an expensive harmonica he order for

1116
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: this guy, Setavini rambooka a Fiji. So it's actually quite

1117
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: a thoughtful present because Sitavini turns out likes to record

1118
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: social media videos of how he plays harmonica after a

1119
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: long day in cabinet.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but most of us, after

1122
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,479
Speaker 2: we've dealt with our colleagues, like to go and punch

1123
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: a bag, maybe run all our fears away and our

1124
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: anger and just plays Christopher Luxen's lovely harmonica.

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00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 17: You know, red Book has got a lot in common

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Speaker 17: with another popular leader of the past.

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Speaker 2: Is he also liked the harmonica?

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Speaker 16: No, no, no, he played the accordion.

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Speaker 17: This is him back in ninety seventy seven.

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Speaker 2: Imagine having to work with these guys. They like, you're

1131
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: just halfway through a cabinet pay then this stuff starts

1132
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 2: up in the office next door.

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Speaker 15: Lord.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So it just makes our politicians seem a lot

1135
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: more bearable, doesn't it. Sixteen Away from.

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Speaker 1: Eight, the My Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: I've got a little bit of clearing up after myself

1139
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Speaker 2: to do. Yesterday I said that jd Vance had kind

1140
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: of creepy eyes, you know, like that there was kind

1141
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 2: of and I couldn't quite explain it properly. But don't

1142
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: worry because the Guardian just did an entire piece on this,

1143
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 2: So I'm just backing myself up with this. The headline

1144
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: is jd Vance is trying hard not to be weird

1145
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: and it's making him seem more menacing still. And what

1146
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: they nail it down to is that you can you

1147
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: know that he's got some pretty like out their views.

1148
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 2: I'm not dissing his views. I'm just saying that they're

1149
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: out there. They're just a little bit more to the

1150
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: right than the vast majority of us. But what he

1151
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: was doing was he was trying to have a calm face,

1152
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: and the whole thing was just a little weird, do

1153
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It was like it was

1154
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: like when you talk to somebody who's clearly a very

1155
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 2: angy person. I'm not saying he is, but when you're

1156
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: trying to talk to somebody who's a very angry person,

1157
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 2: you could see they're trying to control themselves. It's quite unnerving. Yeah,

1158
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: it was just there was a lot going on behind

1159
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: the eyes anyway. That's just me one hundred percent saying.

1160
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: Lots of stuff come out comes out of my mouth

1161
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: and you go, what's going on there? But there's always

1162
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: backed up with something. I just need to go find

1163
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 2: the column that backs it up. It took me a

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00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 2: little while, isn't it. Twelve away from at.

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Speaker 16: And after you said that about Tim Waltz's eyes as well,

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00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 16: I went back and looked.

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00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: At it and you saw all of the men and.

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00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 17: I thought, what are you talking about? And then every

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00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 17: now and again they'd go on full beam, wouldn't they.

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Speaker 2: He does have eyes like.

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Speaker 16: You've got on coming drift.

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Speaker 2: Make them offful. This is totally this is totally him.

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00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: It's just unexpectedly he goes full beam. Okay, here go.

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00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: Credit card spending David seem more well done. He's one

1175
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: of the lowest spenders, only seventy five bucks on his

1176
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 2: work credit card for three months. Seventy five bucks compared

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Speaker 2: to hold On old On.

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Speaker 16: So does that mean just twenty five backs a month?

1179
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: Twenty five bucks a month in contrast to old big

1180
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: spender Judith Collins at ten thousand dollars, so just to

1181
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: show how much restraint he which she's got a lot

1182
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: of portfolios and she had an overseas trip. But he

1183
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: is trying to be the low spending guy and it's

1184
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,479
Speaker 2: working and well done on that one. Winnie p spent

1185
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: seventy nine dollars on getting his Twitter account verified. You know,

1186
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: anybody who gets sucked in by Elon Musk's scheme, it's

1187
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 2: not a good thing. And that's the vanity of that situation. However,

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00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to give him some credit because he went out.

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Speaker 2: He went out to a New York restaurant with three

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Speaker 2: others and the four of them put on their credit

1191
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 2: card only four drinks, two Goose Islence and two Stellar Drafts.

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00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: And I was well impressed with the level of restraint

1193
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: going on there. From Winnie Nikola Willis, the Finance Minister

1194
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: spent six hundred dollars on an Economists subscription. But I

1195
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: thought that's okay because you are actually supposed to be

1196
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 2: running the finances, so there's probably okay. Shane Retti also

1197
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: bought some magazines, so didn't He bought two copies of

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00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: the same North and South magazine for twenty one dollars

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Speaker 2: sixty three. The reason he bought two was because he

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00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: was in them, so he bought one for him and

1201
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: one for his, which is how you should. You should

1202
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 2: always do that if you're amazing that.

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Speaker 16: He gets really bad if you.

1204
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Speaker 17: Then he also find out that he also spent money

1205
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 17: on frames for the covers of them.

1206
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: Is that bad? If you've been in a North and

1207
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: South and you're on the cover, don't you what it's

1208
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: like New Zealand's version of time, isn't it?

1209
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 12: Is it?

1210
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 13: No?

1211
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,479
Speaker 2: Casey Costello made a trip to London. She bought four

1212
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 2: toasties in four days. And that is an honorable mention

1213
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: of a toasty, because a toasty, I'll tell you what

1214
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: toasties are underrated and so God on her. At least

1215
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 2: she's getting that bit right. And finally, Chris Bishop three

1216
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: times in three days March ten, March eleven, and March twelve,

1217
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,479
Speaker 2: he goes to McDonald's, doesn't He with his staff member

1218
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 2: goes to McDonald's and has whatever that they're having at McDonald's.

1219
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: His office was asked about this in the office said,

1220
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Speaker 2: the minister takes seriously his responsibility to be a prudent

1221
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: guardian of taxpayer money. He also really likes fast food

1222
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 2: and his waistliner is proof of that. And I think

1223
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: if you're a connoisseur of fast food, I want to

1224
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: know from Chris Bishop, what is it that you're eating

1225
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 2: that you're loving so much? Away from eight.

1226
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen on the My Costing break List with

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Speaker 1: the Jaguar f Base News talks EDBH.

1228
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: Hither I think Jeffrey Palmer played the trumpet he did,

1229
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: which is why he was only there for four weeks

1230
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: and then had to be gone because of the noise.

1231
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: Six Away from eight Now Auckland's final round Robin Round

1232
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 2: Robin NBC clash is going to look a little different

1233
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: this week because it's good bye Eden Park Hallo Auckland

1234
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 2: Grammar's number one field just the latest provincial side to

1235
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 2: say see you to the empty stadia and take the

1236
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 2: game back to the grassroots and Auckland Rugby CEO Jared

1237
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 2: bears with me.

1238
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 6: Now, hey Jared, morning, Heather, What a great morning in

1239
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 6: Auckland this morning. The sun's out, blue sky is great.

1240
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 2: It is actually looking good after the last few days

1241
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: of bad weather. So is it looking good?

1242
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 6: For the weekend then yeah, well it's Auckland, so the

1243
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 6: sun will always appear during the day at some point.

1244
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: All right, what's been the reaction to going to the

1245
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: number one field at a year? People loving it?

1246
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 6: Oh, it's great feedback. It's an opportunity for us to

1247
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 6: get out to different corners with an Auckland and Auckland

1248
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 6: Grahamer's got a fantastic connection to the game of rugby,

1249
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 6: both with what they do participation opportunities, but also the

1250
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 6: number of all Blacks and Aukroen players that they produced

1251
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 6: over the year over the years, and this time around

1252
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 6: we're playing by Plenty, which is for the Bay of

1253
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 6: Plenty John Drake Boots, which has played between the two teams,

1254
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 6: and John Drake was also a pupil at Aucklanmngremma, so

1255
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 6: there's a nice king engineer as well.

1256
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: Jared, how do the broadcasters feel about it? Because I

1257
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: imagine it makes their job just a weave it harder

1258
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,959
Speaker 2: because they haven't got the broadcasting infrastructure there.

1259
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 6: Well, that actually gets thrown onto us to make sure

1260
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 6: that we come up with infrastructure. So Sky's been really

1261
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 6: supportive of us going to alternative venues. There's some incremental costs,

1262
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 6: so it's not a plug and play that we enjoyed

1263
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 6: Eden Park, But this time around, the cards have all

1264
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 6: lined up and it's just going to be a great

1265
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 6: experience that we can put on and the broadcasters are

1266
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 6: on board. But at the event itself, it's going to

1267
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 6: be a bit of a festival day. We've got a

1268
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 6: garden bar which we'll have a DJ, we've got a

1269
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 6: massive kids activation zone, We've got a wisty pie played

1270
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 6: in competition, so there's going to be plenty on you

1271
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 6: good stuff.

1272
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:00,959
Speaker 1: Listen.

1273
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: I'm getting a text saying Captain's Beer is an actual

1274
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: beer brand. But I read your press releases if Captain

1275
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: Beer was floating around like some sort of mascot, what

1276
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 2: is it?

1277
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 6: No, it's a beer brand, so they're they're sponsoring the

1278
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 6: garden bar.

1279
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: That So you're telling me Captain's Beer is floating around?

1280
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, correct?

1281
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Well I'm glad you explained that Jared best of

1282
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: luck with It is Jared Bear Auckland Rugby CEO.

1283
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 16: So it's beer bar. Just to avoid any confusion.

1284
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Bear. So it's Jared Bear and it's mascot.

1285
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: The beer is not a mascot. The beer is thank

1286
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,479
Speaker 2: God for this person. Captain's Beer is a new beer

1287
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: brand owned by Jordan, Jordie and Bowden Barrett and it's

1288
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: the new sponsor of Auckland Rugby. And then Sam said

1289
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: to me in my ear that he can't find any

1290
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: proof of that, but I can't. Can't you find proof

1291
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 2: of that Captain's Beer exists? Oh, we don't know that

1292
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: the Barrett's own it. We don't know that the Barrett's

1293
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 2: own it, but we know it exists.

1294
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 17: Given our conversation earlier in the week about Boden Barrett

1295
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 17: and with the peace will like him or not, it

1296
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 17: could be a beer that leaves a nasty taste in

1297
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 17: half the population's mouth that.

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Speaker 2: I feel like he would be doing himself a lot

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Speaker 2: of favors if he started to be a brand, because

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Speaker 2: that's one thing most of us can agree on, us

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Speaker 2: a good time on to be a brand. All right, Listen,

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Speaker 2: after the news coming up very shortly, we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: a chat to Tim Wilson and Carrie Woodham, gonna wrap

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Speaker 2: the week that was for us and plenty to get

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Speaker 2: through still and this is my and don't forget my

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Speaker 2: last hour in this job, and then I can go

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Speaker 2: back to sleeping like a normal person.

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Speaker 1: Mike's back soon, your trusted source for news and views.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen on the mic, asking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life,

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Speaker 1: Your Way, News, togs, hea'd be.

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Speaker 3: You beid a.

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Speaker 5: Name for a plane.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't free to be, to be exactly if she

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Speaker 2: are to be, she's sirr and curlerservers couldn't see.

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Speaker 15: Youpid a name for a and it pretend to be.

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Speaker 2: This is Jupiter, like cold Play off an album that

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Speaker 2: has only just dropped, like literally just dropped out hot

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Speaker 2: off the press. It's called Moon Music, It's called Jupiter.

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Speaker 2: They all named after me, stuff your planets, No they're not.

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Speaker 2: It feels like quite a change from the last note,

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Speaker 2: because you remember the last lot of songs that put

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Speaker 2: out a little bit dancy and like, you know, big

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Speaker 2: festival vibes and stuff. But Glenn assures me that this

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Speaker 2: is upbeat and and there are plenty of songs on

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Speaker 2: here that don't sound like this, souse. The only reason

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Speaker 2: I'm interested, obviously, is because I'm gonna I'm making plans

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Speaker 2: to go to the concert. And I don't want to

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Speaker 2: have to listen to acoustic music the whole time. Do

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Speaker 2: you carry what we can review with two degrees?

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Speaker 1: Fighting for fear for Kiwi business there?

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Speaker 2: It is not Carrie Kerry. What You've been around for

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Speaker 2: a very long time, and you were turning the wrong

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Speaker 2: microphone on the whole time.

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Speaker 5: Was and I was waiting until you had finished.

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Speaker 2: Talking, but you were pressing that button. That's your button

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Speaker 2: over there.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm never in the studio. I feel like the

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Speaker 5: dog on the couch every time I come in here.

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm in the This is.

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Speaker 2: Like an F one driver complaining about having to drive

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Speaker 2: it like a twiosha.

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Speaker 5: I'm normally with you're sitting and I am so so

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Speaker 5: grateful you've been in that seat this week.

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Speaker 2: Can I that's very kind of you just say, has

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Speaker 2: been lovely to see your face.

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Speaker 5: I'm not normally a guest starting. I'm normally in charge. Happy.

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Speaker 15: But the risk of making all the sound thanks, thanks, oh,

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Speaker 15: thank you so much, thank you. At at the risk

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Speaker 15: of making this sound far too agreeable for the Friday

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Speaker 15: morning wrap up, You've done a great job here that

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Speaker 15: I was laughing out loud in the car as I

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Speaker 15: was listening to you saying how anyone who drives an

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Speaker 15: electric vehicle has been emasculated by their maiden aunt. Many

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Speaker 15: people might.

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Speaker 2: Agree with that as you drove your electric vehicle.

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Speaker 15: I couldn't possibly comment because because I'm a male, But

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Speaker 15: as a female you can say that. No, no, I

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Speaker 15: agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you?

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Speaker 15: Hey?

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Speaker 18: How was so?

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Speaker 2: Did you decide? Okay, did you decide for your birthday

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Speaker 2: to climb the pinnacles? Was that you treat.

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Speaker 15: Not self selected? No? We went up with a bunch

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Speaker 15: of families, some adults and about twenty five kids. We

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Speaker 15: walked up the pinnacles. You feel your glutes on the

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Speaker 15: way up and your quad's on the way down. But

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Speaker 15: I highly recommend it.

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Speaker 2: And the kids handle it okay.

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Speaker 15: They loved it. They were bounding ahead and gambling like gazelle.

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Speaker 15: So what was lovely? On the morning of my birthday?

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Speaker 15: At six am, my son Roman started singing Happy Birthday,

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Speaker 15: and all of these kids, twenty five kids joined in,

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Speaker 15: and so they were all singing in this We had

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Speaker 15: occupied one one area of a heart, but they all

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Speaker 15: started singing. And then someone said how old are you?

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Speaker 15: And I said fifty nine. So they went clap one, two, three,

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Speaker 15: fifty nine claps.

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Speaker 5: How gloriously wholesome. See, I love hearing stories like this.

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Speaker 5: We hear about bad kids all the time. There are

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Speaker 5: so many goods, there are.

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Speaker 15: So many, so many good gets us, so many good carrots.

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Speaker 2: And I had I'll tell you what I had. Carry

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Speaker 2: This would have happened to you a long time ago,

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Speaker 2: because your daughter is old enough to be having children

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Speaker 2: of her own and have had.

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Speaker 16: But I had.

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Speaker 2: My birthday was last month, the first year where my

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Speaker 2: son sang Happy Birthday to me. Oh, that was the best.

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Speaker 5: Game I've still got. Because I'm cleaning things up because

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Speaker 5: I've just had the kitchen remodeled, and I've found all

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Speaker 5: of these boxes of stuff that I didn't know what

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Speaker 5: to do with, and found all the love letters from

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Speaker 5: when they're little, oh, that have been in the drawer,

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Speaker 5: and then the special as.

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Speaker 2: Much Carrie when they are closing in on forty and redheaded,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, she just doesn't say it. She still feels

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Speaker 2: the same.

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Speaker 5: It's just wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Keep all the love letters and the love right, Tim,

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Speaker 2: did you see what the MP's are put on their

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Speaker 2: credit cards?

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Speaker 15: I was, I was, I mean, you know, I'm a

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Speaker 15: stinge and I was so impressed by David Seymour three

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Speaker 15: months and what is it? Seventy nine bucks?

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Speaker 5: It doesn't surprise me, no, no, but he was not

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Speaker 5: a profligate wastrel.

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Speaker 2: And put a coffee on. Surely could put coffee on

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Speaker 2: your own credit, can't? Can't you?

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Speaker 15: Well there is the.

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Speaker 5: Receipts?

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Speaker 2: Well where are they exactly? Because he should be on

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Speaker 2: this list. You are a very good question. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 2: start a conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 5: That's what I was looking for.

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Speaker 2: What about Chris Bishop? Though Harry going to McDonald's three

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01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 2: times in three days? I feel like there's an intervention

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Speaker 2: needed here.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I don't want to be food judge

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Speaker 5: and you've got to eat on the go. I mean

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Speaker 5: perhaps mixing it up with a subway would be quite good.

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Speaker 5: That's healthy choice.

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Speaker 2: Did you I don't know if you did?

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Speaker 15: You stuff for healthy? What about KFC? Where's the KFC receipt?

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Speaker 5: I had KFC until my very good friendly is who's

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01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 5: a brilliant chef recreated KFC? It was amazing, sort of

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01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 5: did it like fancy Stars?

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Speaker 15: You still haven't had KFC if you haven't sat in

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Speaker 15: the drive through for forty minutes. You haven't had KFC

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Speaker 15: in your whole life.

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Speaker 5: I had this point, I had two mouthfuls of a

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Speaker 5: double down when all those fighters epidemic people said they

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Speaker 5: were dangerous.

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Speaker 6: So I do.

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Speaker 2: They say they're dangerous? So you're like, I better put

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Speaker 2: that in my mouth.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's just what a stupid thing to say. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's a dumb thing to say.

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Speaker 21: So I put.

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Speaker 5: I had two mouthfuls just to prove they were wrong.

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Speaker 5: And here I am. You're still a like.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what though, Tim, none of the stuff

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01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: like comes anywhere close to what Debbie's been doing with

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01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 2: her flying. I want to know where Debbie has been going.

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01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 2: She managed to rack up thirty nine thousand bucks in

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Speaker 2: three months.

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Speaker 5: It's always the and who.

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Speaker 2: It's always those guys who are like, no oil and gas,

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Speaker 2: hold on, I need the gas for my plane trip

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Speaker 2: except for me.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Here, see this is why I liked your parenting, Tim,

1453
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 5: because there were climbing the pinnacles with the kids. You

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01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 5: didn't say to the kids, bugger off and climb the

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Speaker 5: pinnacles while I lie in bed and have asleep. And

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Speaker 5: for my birthday. It's leading by example and That's what

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01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 5: annoys me a bit about people who lecture me. I

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Speaker 5: want to see them do it before I That's why

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Speaker 5: I loved the Janet fit Simon's School of Green MP.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but she actually did put her purpose in the garden.

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Speaker 5: She did pay a supporter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want the people to poke in the

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Speaker 2: garden doing yourself. Speaking of lecturing, I want to talk

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Speaker 2: about Chris Luckson Sole, you's deal with him. Next thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: Eight, the Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: At b sixteen past eight, The Week in.

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Speaker 1: Review with two degrees bringing smart business solutions to the table.

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Speaker 2: Kerry Woodham and Tim Wilson with me. Okay, Tim, this

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Speaker 2: business about Chris Luckson selling his apartment and then making

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty thousand bucks off it, and then

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Speaker 2: apparently dodging text. The whole thing just feels to me

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01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 2: like the guy can't copper break because he's wealthy.

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Speaker 15: Is that so what you think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: The inference is that he passed passed amendments to bright

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Speaker 15: Line legislation to save himself seventy k of text, which

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Speaker 15: anyone who's tried anyone who's tried to sell a house.

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Speaker 15: You don't know when you're going to sell the house,

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Speaker 15: you don't know if you're going to sell it, et cetera,

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Speaker 15: et cetera, et cetera. What's interesting to me in terms

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01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 15: of his leadership style is, remember he paid back that

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01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 15: accommodation supplement when he was early in the job. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 15: you shouldn't be getting this, dah dah da.

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Speaker 5: That might have beens on my fault.

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Speaker 15: It may remember when you guys, Remember when you guys

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Speaker 15: slapped them around the chops about the accommodation. But this time,

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Speaker 15: this time his officers said, oh, it's a private matter,

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Speaker 15: shut up, go away. I think he's become a bit

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Speaker 15: more confident as a leader in this kind of area.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I have no problem with people being wealthy at all

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Speaker 5: when they have created something that people want to buy,

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01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 5: when they have worked incredibly hard and been chosen as

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01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 5: the best in their field globally, and they've been remunerated accordingly. Look,

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Speaker 5: I know a few wealthy people who have been wealthy

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01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 5: because they had a great idea. I know people who

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Speaker 5: are wealthy because they inherited it and built on it.

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Speaker 5: The people I despise the most are the ones who

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Speaker 5: want to be wealthy and who aren't, and who just

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Speaker 5: have these trappings because they think it matters, like the

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01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 5: Devaul group people. Oh yeah, you know, the ones who

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01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 5: commission their own reality TV show about themselves.

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01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 2: Do you want to know something about them?

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Speaker 10: That's sick?

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01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 5: And me to my call?

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Speaker 2: Do you know that my dad and Kenyan Clark's mum

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01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 2: were lovers for a very we're talking about your dad

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01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: like that, isn't it like they were lovers? They lived

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Speaker 2: together for a very very long time in Cambridge.

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Speaker 5: And was she a nice woman who values Well I

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01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 5: can't speak to that. Well, what happened to him?

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Speaker 2: What the son that's.

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Speaker 5: Clearly needed your dad's influence?

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01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. Look at how I turned out.

1516
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 2: That's half the reason you're not a big note like that.

1517
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 5: Yes, But to lease a flesh car because all you

1518
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 5: can afford is a Toyota Corolla or something, so you

1519
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 5: lease a Ferrari and you have taken by other people's jets?

1520
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: Was that the jemy whose gem was that?

1521
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 5: Itsus?

1522
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 15: It's this misapprehension, it's this idea that the more money

1523
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 15: you have, the happy you are in fact, there's a

1524
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 15: Princeton survey that says you earn more than what is it,

1525
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 15: seventy five k us you're actually a year you're actually no,

1526
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 15: you're actually only tiny bit happier. Yeah, it's welless like,

1527
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 15: I've met some lovely farmers and the shorts and the

1528
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 15: boots and the covered and dust and driving a dungery

1529
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 15: old Toyota and they could buy and sell.

1530
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 5: Knobs like that. And if you make something that makes

1531
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 5: you a lot of money and generate something and you know,

1532
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 5: make music, you'd be as rich as you like. But

1533
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 5: please don't pretend, because it's utterly pathetic.

1534
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 2: And the REMI can you hear that?

1535
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 6: Is?

1536
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 15: That?

1537
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 9: Is that?

1538
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 2: Uton? Can I blame you for that?

1539
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 15: What there was?

1540
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, don't worry. We could hear some interference.

1541
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 15: Oh wait, that might have I did. I did extend

1542
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 15: my leg at maybe one of my knees cracking after

1543
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 15: the good staff and.

1544
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 2: At your age.

1545
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 5: It was the back room start.

1546
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 2: It was Sam's put his hand up, He's going to

1547
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 2: own this. Hey, Carrie, I know you wanted to actually

1548
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: talk about this fab today this week the christ Church

1549
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 2: where the christ Church is the coolest place in the country,

1550
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 2: would you.

1551
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 15: Agree with that.

1552
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 5: I didn't talk about that. That was not the one

1553
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 5: I raised.

1554
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, I know, but I know that you

1555
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 2: wanted to talk about this this week, right, And it's

1556
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: a very long wounded way of me. Yet never mind

1557
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 2: all aside, carry put it all aside. Is christ it's

1558
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 2: the coolest place in the country.

1559
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 5: Well, see, I'm finding cool places everywhere I go. It

1560
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 5: is a very cool place to visit. I was just

1561
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 5: down there last week. But then I was in Gisbane

1562
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 5: and I just saw the retailers have given of Gisbone. Yeah,

1563
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 5: have given it a big kicking. I absolutely loved it.

1564
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 5: When I went down there, fell completely in life.

1565
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 2: We're there for a festival or something like that. We're

1566
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 2: just there on it, like the reg year old weekend Dangrisbone.

1567
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, like never written Emma Freeman. They went down about

1568
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,799
Speaker 5: a month ago, comsoletely in love with Grisbone.

1569
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1570
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 5: I went down a month later for the Citrus Growers conference.

1571
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 5: Like it'sn't the.

1572
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: Weather, it's the weather.

1573
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 15: I'm going to love of grenade here grenade. Yeah, the

1574
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 15: pinnacles on the cooler where Thames Thames. The hospice shop

1575
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 15: there is second to none. Absolutely brilliant. There was a

1576
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 15: pear cut on shirt there for eight bucks that I

1577
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 15: couldn't get because it was too big. Plus the macas

1578
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 15: is excellent because you go there, you've been up the pinnacles.

1579
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 2: Yes, actually yeah, I mean these are my measurements.

1580
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,480
Speaker 15: I don't care about. I don't care about clubs, parties,

1581
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 15: DJs or anything like that. Just give me the shops

1582
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 15: and give me the mask.

1583
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 2: You know what I think has happened here, Carrier, is

1584
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 2: that he came down from the pinnacles. He still had

1585
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 2: that in Dalkin's high. Do you know when you get

1586
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 2: some exercise and just feel great about life, it's basically

1587
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 2: like clubbing. And then he was like ten's greatest place

1588
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 2: in the country.

1589
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever used those words in a sentence. No, what,

1590
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 5: Oh it's too big for me.

1591
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 10: I couldn't wear it.

1592
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 5: It was too bad for me.

1593
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to go, guys. It was great to chat.

1594
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 2: Do you, thank you so much and have a lovely weekend.

1595
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 2: That's Kerry would have been eight twenty one.

1596
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: Heather duplessy Ellen pond them by Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's

1597
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: Real Estate news Talks.

1598
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 2: Have you heard the news. Dan Carter's latest fragrance, which

1599
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 2: is DC ten's signature, has just arrived at Chemist Warehouse now.

1600
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 2: The fragrance was inspired by his illustrious eighteen year rugby career,

1601
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 2: and Dan Carter has created a fragrance that reflects strength

1602
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 2: and resilience and passion and all of those things that

1603
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 2: drove him throughout his career. DC ten signature fragrance bottle

1604
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 2: features eighteen riggings. They each represent the eighteen years he

1605
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 2: spent on the field, dedicating his life to the sport

1606
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 2: that we love. DC ten signature is a blend of

1607
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 2: subtle yet commanding notes with hants of amber resin, which

1608
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 2: is perfect for every day where and if you want

1609
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 2: to feel the same strength as Dan Carter during his career,

1610
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 2: then DC ten signature is the fragrance for you. DC

1611
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 2: ten signature available exclusively at Chemist Warehouse for just forty

1612
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 2: nine to ninety nine. Stop paying too much.

1613
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 15: Heather duple Sellen Gisbon is.

1614
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: A great place to good you know what, I reckon

1615
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: best place in the country ever had to think about it.

1616
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 2: But you got to do it seasonally right, because not

1617
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 2: some places are great in one season and not great

1618
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: in another season, Like who wants to go to the

1619
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: beach in the winter? Do you know what I mean?

1620
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 2: Greatest place in this country in winter has got to

1621
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 2: be Queen's Town because it's dry and it's crisp, and

1622
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: it's beautiful and you can see the snow, the cozy

1623
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 2: little bars, like it's made for the season, cozy little

1624
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 2: bars you can go to. If you're really, really, really rich,

1625
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 2: you can go down to Millbrook. No, not that rich,

1626
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 2: but you know what I mean, like you can go

1627
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 2: and just have a fantastic time in winter and then summer, well,

1628
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 2: we don't have a shortage of places around here, do we?

1629
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 2: In summer we'd have a great place everywhere. Here's something

1630
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 2: interesting that has kind of been I've been noticing it,

1631
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 2: and I think that this guy's onto something. This is

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01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 2: Chris Schultz, who's a long time music journalist. He's written

1633
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 2: a piece on his blog about how expensive concert tickets

1634
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 2: are at the moment, but basically so pricey. He says

1635
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 2: they're only for the rich. And he makes the point

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01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: that back in nineteen ninety five when he was a kid,

1637
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 2: he was still at school, I think or like doing

1638
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: part time jobs or something. He and three friends wanted

1639
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 2: to go see Pearl Jam, and back then they would

1640
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 2: have been the biggest band in the world all thereabouts.

1641
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 2: They were playing at Mount Spartan Auckland, and he lived

1642
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 2: in Wangananui. So he and his three mates scraped together

1643
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 2: enough money and they bought the tickets and they caught

1644
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 2: the train up and the tickets were fifty bucks each

1645
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 2: at the time, which works out at one hundred bucks

1646
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,520
Speaker 2: in today's money, which is affordable.

1647
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 10: Right.

1648
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 2: If you want to go see the biggest band in

1649
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: the world for one hundred bucks, you and I would

1650
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 2: do it right. But now you want to go see

1651
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 2: Billie Eilish, tickets are over two hundred bucks. Pool Jam

1652
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 2: this year no longer the biggest band in the world.

1653
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 2: You're paying about two hundred and ten for general admissions,

1654
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: double the price. Oasis standing tickets were eight hundred and

1655
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 2: fifty dollars and this band, Coldplay five point fifty to go.

1656
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 2: If you still want tickets at n part, you've got

1657
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: news TOGCB.

1658
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 15: You've got.

1659
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. Here

1660
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 1: the Defcy Ellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the

1661
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: Jaguar f pace cut from a different cloth news talgs EDB.

1662
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 2: Hey, I know I go on about the public servants

1663
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 2: in this country. You think we've got I'm going to

1664
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: give them a bit a couple of a bit of slack.

1665
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 2: You think we've got a problem with the public servants

1666
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 2: here not wanting to leave the comfort of their own

1667
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: homes during working hours. Just do the working from home.

1668
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: You think it's bad here, get a load of what's

1669
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 2: going on over in the UK. These guys in the

1670
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 2: UK are threatening to strike if they have to go

1671
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 2: back to the office. Are they're promising they're going to

1672
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 2: escalate this and they're gonna involve in all out strike

1673
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: And they're using all the kinds of you're not like

1674
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,839
Speaker 2: fighting talk, the business fighting talk, because basically, what's happened

1675
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 2: and this is only it sounds like it only it

1676
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 2: only relates to members of the Public and Commercial Services Union.

1677
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 2: They have been told to go back to the office

1678
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 2: since May. They've just been like nh, not gonna go,

1679
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 2: not not going.

1680
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 11: What's that?

1681
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: That's six months of refusing to go back to the office.

1682
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 2: Imagine that. Imagine being the boss of somebody like this.

1683
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 2: You're like, can you please come into the office. Nat

1684
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it from home. I don't want to

1685
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 2: fire them on the spot. You think they had been

1686
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 2: told some sort of unreasonable edict. No, they have only

1687
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: been told to go back to the office two days

1688
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 2: a week, not even half the week. Two days a week,

1689
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: and they have a problem with that, I mean, honestly.

1690
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 2: So anyway, our public servants kind of annoying, but not

1691
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: that annoying, are they?

1692
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 13: Hither?

1693
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 2: I have a background in music. I've started boycotting going

1694
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: to concerts.

1695
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 15: Growing up.

1696
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: For me, a general admission ticket was around fifty bucks.

1697
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 2: Minimum wage was about ten bucks, so it would cost

1698
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 2: you about five hours of work to go. Now a

1699
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 2: general admission ticket seems to be about two hundred and

1700
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 2: fifty dollars average, and minimum wage is twenty three dollars

1701
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 2: an hour, so you do the mats. You have to

1702
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 2: work over ten hours to get a ticket. Now, it's

1703
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 2: getting ridiculous. If this, especially if this is your jam,

1704
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 2: isn't it like if the thing that you like to

1705
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 2: do with your spare time is head over to a

1706
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 2: concert and bop your head in the mosh pit or whatever,

1707
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 2: it becomes a very it's becoming like golf and skiing,

1708
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 2: isn't it, And maybe a quick equestrian sports something that

1709
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 2: you probably don't want to get into. Certainly dissuade your

1710
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 2: children from picking up a guitar. Twenty one away from.

1711
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 18: Nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of

1712
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 18: Mind for New Zealand Business.

1713
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 2: Murray oldsy Correspondence.

1714
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 15: Now, Hey Mass, very good morning, Heather mus Listen.

1715
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 2: News just coming out of Australia right now. The rally

1716
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 2: that was off and then on is now scrapped again.

1717
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 13: Well that's news to me because police have got a

1718
01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 13: news conference scheduled here in Sydney this morning of business

1719
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 13: last night. The rally was going ahead on Saturday. On Sunday,

1720
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 13: I big your part, and then a candle at vigil

1721
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 13: on the Monday evening was planned for Sydney's Town Hall

1722
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 13: in the heart of the city on George Street. So

1723
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 13: if that is new, you've actually surprised me because I'm

1724
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 13: in here in the newsroom this morning and I've yet

1725
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 13: to see any information from the Palestine Action Group. This

1726
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 13: is the group that's been out there every single weekend,

1727
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 13: every Sunday for the last fifty one weeks. And the

1728
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 13: police went to the Supreme Court yesterday it was a

1729
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 13: two o'clock start here in Sydney. By five o'clock both

1730
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 13: sides had reached a compromise that yes, big rally would

1731
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 13: go ahead. Police were worried, of course, about policing this

1732
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 13: rally because tempers can get pretty frayed. Flags are being

1733
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 13: waived and people are charting and whatnot, so police were

1734
01:17:54,640 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 13: a bit anxious. The compromise involved the march not going

1735
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 13: anywhere near the Grand Synagogue here in town, which is

1736
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 13: probably you know, hello, hello, how smart?

1737
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 12: I mean?

1738
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 13: Please? Anyway, If that's the case, mate, that's news to me,

1739
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 13: and I get off the phone on going fell them?

1740
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 2: Must I tell you what's gone on here? It's actually

1741
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 2: the same thing. It's just a different interpretation of it.

1742
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 2: So it's going ahead, you understand. It's going ahead as

1743
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 2: a vigil which is what the compromise is. And it's

1744
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 2: being reported that the rally part has been scrapped, So

1745
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 2: both of them are true. It's still going ahead, rally scrapped,

1746
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 2: vigils on therefore different but as you say, different route

1747
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 2: as well. So is that the compromise is that, mate?

1748
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 13: That's my understanding. Yeah, they look police said, we don't

1749
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 13: want either thing to go ahead. The Paliside Action Group said, well,

1750
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,719
Speaker 13: bugger that, we're going to go ahead anyway with the police,

1751
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 13: you know, whatever the Supreme Gourd has to say, the

1752
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 13: rally will go ahead. And they had, well, it depends

1753
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 13: on you talked to last weekend. I reckon they had

1754
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 13: thirty thousand people. Thirty thousand people. It's like the anti

1755
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 13: Vietnam marches of fifty years ago. It's a big deal.

1756
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 2: But the thing is that what upset them last weekend

1757
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 2: was a whole bunch of people out there with Hezbola flags. Right,

1758
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 2: so it's a terrorist organization's flags. Now you might have

1759
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 2: perfectly reasonable people sitting down and saying, okay, we're going

1760
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 2: to do this properly, we're going to have a vigil,

1761
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 2: we're going to walk this way stuff, But can you

1762
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 2: really stop the kind of extreme elements turning up. They

1763
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 2: may well just turn.

1764
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 13: Up, well indeed they might and you know, to their

1765
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 13: to be fair to the organizers, the Palestine Action Group

1766
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 13: organizes the leadership of this group, they said, listen, we

1767
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,959
Speaker 13: tell everybody you can't bring flags. Waving these flags is outlawed.

1768
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 13: In fact, the New South Wales Heather waving these flag

1769
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 13: is the equivalent of waving a Nazi flag that's been outlawed.

1770
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 13: I mean, the Nazi word was invoked this week, just

1771
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 13: gone because two years ago the new South Wales government

1772
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 13: past law you can't wear Nazi insignia, you can't wear

1773
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 13: Nazi uniforms, you can't do Nazi salutes and so on

1774
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 13: in public. That's how abhorrent that is. Well, the push

1775
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 13: this week was to class flags representing Hezbollah and Hamas

1776
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 13: in the same way. Where that's got to in Parliament House.

1777
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 13: I'm not sure where the government is at with that.

1778
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 13: But look, it's a very very mobile, such a fluid

1779
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 13: situation here, lots of moving parts, fingers crossed. The weekend

1780
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 13: goes ahead without any massive confrontations. At the same time,

1781
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,799
Speaker 13: of course, lots and lots of concern for people in Lebanon.

1782
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 13: There are about fifteen thousand Australians we understand in Lebanon.

1783
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 13: The government's got six hundred seats on flights seventeen hundred people.

1784
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 13: As I say closed the business last night, there was

1785
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 13: seventeen hundred Ozzies who were very very keen to get

1786
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 13: the heck out of Lebanon and get home. So we'll

1787
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 13: have to make checks on that this morning too. But

1788
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 13: six hundred seats is what they didn't have yes this

1789
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 13: time yesterday. So that's a couple of planeloads of Australians

1790
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 13: getting out of there. Mars.

1791
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 2: You're going to sit down to watch the Grand Final?

1792
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding, of course, are you backing?

1793
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 15: Well, look a.

1794
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 13: Lot of people are saying Penrith because it's the start

1795
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 13: of a dynasty. This hasn't happened since Saint George won

1796
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 13: eleven straight, going back many many decades now. But I

1797
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 13: was the same wng on Pendris had three in a row.

1798
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 13: It's time for someone else. And look, I think there's

1799
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 13: a cigarette paper between the two sides. Clearly they're the

1800
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 13: best two teams all year. The Jerome Hughes I sat

1801
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 13: down after he won them. They had a really terrific

1802
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 13: montage of this young fellow went for about four minutes.

1803
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:25,759
Speaker 13: The Hughes season. My god, that guy is a magician.

1804
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 13: He's fantastic. But then you look at young Cleary behind

1805
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 13: the Penrith pack, big monstrous pack that I've got, and

1806
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 13: look it's two very very even sides. I honestly got

1807
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 13: I know who's going to win. And if the storm

1808
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 13: get up, I'll be reasonably happy, even though they're from Melbourne.

1809
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 13: And if Pendrith get up, we'll get on them because

1810
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 13: they've got a wonderful coach, they got a terrific halfback

1811
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 13: with a great team around them. So I really think

1812
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 13: it's going to be a fantastic game on Sunday night.

1813
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the kind of game you want one. You

1814
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 2: don't know how it's going to go. Maz enjoy it

1815
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 2: very much and good to talk to you. Made enjoy it,

1816
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 2: ran you Jos Olds Ozzie correspondent. Government's just announced they're

1817
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,799
Speaker 2: going to pump two hundred and twenty six million dollars

1818
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 2: into as a package are setting aside for strengthening resilience

1819
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 2: with critical road improvement projects. That the point is really

1820
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 2: to try to get the roads to be able to

1821
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 2: withstand severe weather events. Good day to be announcing it, obviously,

1822
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 2: given what to need in is experiencing at the moment.

1823
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 2: So two hundred and twenty six million dollars. The vast

1824
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: majority obviously goes to Auckland, given it's the biggest place

1825
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 2: to about twenty four million dollars. Gisbin gets a fair

1826
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 2: share because of what it's been through forty million dollars.

1827
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 2: Northland gets seventeen million dollars, does need it. Wycutt will

1828
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 2: also badly hit, you know, with all because why Cuttle

1829
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 2: covers the what's it called comand corimandal area and that's

1830
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 2: thirty one million dollars for them. So yeah, as I say,

1831
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 2: good day to be announcing it, because we all just

1832
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 2: want to see those roll roads hold up.

1833
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 1: Quarter two the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

1834
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talks that be.

1835
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 2: Twelve away from nine. I tell you what polling out

1836
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 2: of the states I think is fascinating for just which

1837
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: are the four of them? This is the four running

1838
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 2: on the presidential ticket and the vice presidential ticket. Which

1839
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 2: are the four of them? Is the most popular? Doesn't

1840
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 2: actually surprise me to find out it's Tim Waltz, and

1841
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 2: like by quite a margin. So of all four, people

1842
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 2: like Tim Waltz the most, so he beats so Tim Waltz.

1843
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,759
Speaker 2: Is What they do is they do the neat approval ratings.

1844
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 2: That's basically how many people like you minus how many

1845
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,879
Speaker 2: people don't like you, right, and it's in the positive.

1846
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 2: More people like you than don't like you, and it's

1847
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 2: in the negative. If more people dislike you, that's not

1848
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 2: that unusual in politics. So it's not that, you know,

1849
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 2: bigger deal, but this is what's going on. Okay. So

1850
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 2: jd Vance's approval ratings come in, he's the least popular.

1851
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 2: He comes in at negative eleven. It's the eyes. Trump

1852
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 2: comes in at negative ten, so he's only marginally more

1853
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 2: popular than jd Vance. Carmela comes in at plus one,

1854
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 2: which is probably all the hype around her, and then

1855
01:23:56,520 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 2: Tim Waltz comes in at plus four. That's quite as significant. Like,

1856
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 2: that's a fifteen point lead on jd Vance right there,

1857
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 2: that's not bad. And that's a fourteen point lead on

1858
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 2: Donald Trump and a three point lead on Karmala Watts

1859
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 2: now Kamala Harris. Now, who knows what. I wonder what

1860
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 2: effect the debate has had on it. Maybe not that much,

1861
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit, just because he's been busted lying

1862
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: about his past again where he said he was in

1863
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 2: Hong Kong for the Tianeman Square massacre and he wasn't

1864
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 2: because he was in Nebraska. And it's not the first

1865
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 2: time he's told FIBs about what he was doing and

1866
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 2: back in the day. But the thing that's going and

1867
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 2: I tell you what, I'll tell you what's going from me.

1868
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 2: He's got a friendly face. And this is the thing, right,

1869
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 2: This is why they teach people when you go and

1870
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 2: do media interviews, smile, smile because then people like you more.

1871
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 2: You don't need the old bitchy resting face, which is

1872
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 2: what I mean Trump. I want to say Trump's got

1873
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:46,600
Speaker 2: a bitchy resting face. He doesn't need, just has a

1874
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 2: comical resting face. But anyway, this is what is going

1875
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 2: in favor of Tim Watson, probably explains why he's got

1876
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 2: a slight popularity thing going on here. The first time

1877
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: going to a concert coming to Auckland in January. Get

1878
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 2: a load of this Tickets, flights, accommodation for just one

1879
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 2: night for Jamie and his wife and his two kids.

1880
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 2: Four thousand dollars just to go to a concert.

1881
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 15: Mate.

1882
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 2: It's an expensive sport nine away from nine either dup.

1883
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 1: Sealent von the my costing breakfast with a Vida retirement

1884
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: Communities News Tog said.

1885
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 2: Besh I didn't want to have to leave this thing

1886
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 2: on a sour political note. But what about this, Heather,

1887
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 2: I'm an American citizen. I'd rather have just cinder over

1888
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 2: KRMLA any day of the week. Karmela is a vacuum

1889
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 2: of personality and intelligence. That's a burn, isn't it. Hey

1890
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 2: Listen earlier on right, I was talking about how I

1891
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,560
Speaker 2: didn't know that the Auckland Auckland in NPC squad was

1892
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 2: named the Gulls. Variously I've seen them called the Seagulls,

1893
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 2: which suggests to me, not everybody knows what then. I

1894
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 2: don't even know if it's actually called the Seagulls or

1895
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 2: the goals. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't

1896
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 2: know anything about this until maybe four hours ago anyway,

1897
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 2: So then I was like, well, what are the rest

1898
01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 2: of them called? And I reckon, I reckon you not

1899
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: be able to name them? So everybody knows the Wellington Lions, right,

1900
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 2: the Lions are in Wellington, or maybe I just know

1901
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 2: that because I lived there for a very long time.

1902
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 2: Everybody knows the Mucor are in Tasman, and that's because

1903
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 2: Michael is such a weird name. You often think you know,

1904
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 2: what's that and then you remember, oh, yeah, that's anyway.

1905
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 2: Magpies are in Hawks Bay, and you know that because

1906
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: they keep on doing bad things like dropping things, don't

1907
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 2: they They like drop a trophy and stuff like that.

1908
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 2: Then they're all over the news and things, and so

1909
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 2: you know that that's what they're called. The Steelers are

1910
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 2: in counties Manecou, and I know that because I come

1911
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 2: from counties Manicou. But I think that's the only reason

1912
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 2: that I know that. The MoU Looser and wy Cato

1913
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 2: and you know that because that's that's an unusual name.

1914
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 2: But Glenn, who prides himself and knowing a lot of

1915
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 2: things about a lot of things. Do you know what

1916
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 2: the Otago squad is called? M No, the razorbacks? What

1917
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 2: the razorbacks?

1918
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 13: Wow?

1919
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 2: What is a razorback?

1920
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:58,560
Speaker 16: It's a pig, is it?

1921
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 2: I thought it was a dog? What's the Bay of

1922
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 2: Plenty squad called the Steamers?

1923
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 21: Oh?

1924
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 16: Yes, I knew that.

1925
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 2: Where are the turbos from?

1926
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1927
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 2: Okay? Where are the tunny far from?

1928
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 16: Northland?

1929
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1930
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 2: And the Stags? You got to know that, Kenary, No, No,

1931
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 2: he's sitting next to you. Look, he's look at looking

1932
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 2: at you with those eyes.

1933
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 16: O Southland, Yeah, Southland. Sorry, once you start fly there,

1934
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 16: I forget about them.

1935
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, no too, right, Yeah, Sam from Southland and then

1936
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 2: the Taranak team are called what see look at this

1937
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 2: with something going wrong here with us? This is our

1938
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Speaker 2: national sports bulls. Yeah, well done. But what is the

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Speaker 2: Canterbury team called? What is the Canterbury tem called? Not

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Speaker 2: the Rams, the Canterbre team, That's what they're called. They

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Speaker 2: called the Canterbre team. They don't have no North Harbor

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Speaker 2: as well, they're called the North Harbor Sea Seat. Look,

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Speaker 2: I just feel like we when you have the people

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Speaker 2: who live and breathe rugby in this country unable to

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Speaker 2: name your squads, you need to ditch the competition or

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Speaker 2: do better. We'll get better names. Maybe some names for

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Speaker 2: a couple of them that don't have names would be

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Speaker 2: a good place to start. Four Away from.

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Speaker 15: You know who this is, don't you?

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Speaker 2: May as a banger? Isn't it as good? Mariah Carey

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Speaker 2: synonymous with Christmas? She says, now get a load of this.

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Speaker 2: She says it's too early to be playing her music

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Speaker 2: right now. She says October is not for Christmas songs

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Speaker 2: and we have the wait for Christmas to listen to

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Speaker 2: her songs. I totally think you can listen to the

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Speaker 2: song any day of the year if you want to.

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Speaker 2: So when you leave, avoid another diva steps in and

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Speaker 2: we have Kelly clarkson her new song You for Christmas

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Speaker 2: feel Us too, the same vibe, so I'm into it already. Hey,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much for having me with you this week.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in. Mike is back with you next

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Speaker 2: week and he's welcome to it. Two thirty Alarm is

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Speaker 2: just not up to leted them all already, so I'm

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Speaker 2: going to go. I need a week to recover, so

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Speaker 2: I'll see you very soon. You enjoy your weekend News Talks.

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Speaker 14: Every Marry Christmas, everybody.

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