1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Devin Gray UK corresponds with us right now, Hey, Gevin, 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: hi there So Brigitte Macron's daughter has given evidence. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yes. In this bizarre case in Paris taking part 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: where ten people are accused of sexist cyber bullying of 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: the French president's wife, Brigitte Macron. The defendants are accused 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: of effectively rumor milling, spreading unsubstantiated claims all about her 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: gender and sexuality, and making what are called malicious remarks 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: about the twenty four year age gap between Brigitte and 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: her husband Emmanuel Macron. The ten people appearing in the 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: dark art, an elected official, a gallery owner, and a 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: teacher are among them, and two of them, self styled 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: independent journalist called Natasha Ray and internet fortune teller a 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: man Deen Roy were found guilty of slander last year 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: for claiming that France's first lady had never existed. So 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: it's quite a group of people. They say, look, it's 16 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: for freedom of speech. We've done nothing wrong. The Macrons 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: saying it's really affected their mental health, and Bridget Macron's 18 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: daughter saying it really has taken its toll on her 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: mother's ill health. Being in the spotlight and having these 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: accusations thrust at her, and of course separately, they are 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: also taking a very high profile right wing influencer, Candice 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 2: Owens to court over unsubstantiated claims from her about Missus 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: Macron's gender. 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: Now isn't the case that William was the one who 25 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: was able to basically get Andrew to agree to move 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: out of Royal Lodge? 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: Well, I think there's now what's being called by my sources, 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: the longest running bitter sore, bitterest row in the royal 29 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: family for many, many years, with both sides now briefing 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: against one another. The King still wants his brother Prince 31 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: Andrew to get out of the thirty one room Windsor 32 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: mansion called Royal Lodge in Windsor. And it's this rouse 33 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: dragged on for three years now, and apparently things have 34 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: got increasingly strained, particularly after of course all the recent revelations, 35 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: including just in the last couple of days, a picture 36 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: of Gilaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein and Harvey Weinstein. All of 37 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: those people, of course, now in one way, shape or 38 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: form accused of being sort of involved in child abuse 39 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: or sexual abuse. Gilaine Maxwell is still in prison, and 40 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: those three pictured in Prince Andrew's garden. He had said 41 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: it was a garden that he had held a party, 42 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: but it was at Windsor Castle. But this shows that 43 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: he had hosted them two according to the most recent allegations. 44 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: And now we're getting news that Prince William has had 45 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: a meeting with Prince Andrew's two daughters, Princesses Eugenie and Beatrice. 46 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: They have been allowed to keep their titles, but I 47 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: think it's being made quite clear to the to them 48 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: that they need to put pressure on their father if 49 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 2: they want to remain as working roles and to keep 50 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: those titles. Those are the allegations. Nothing from Prince William. 51 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 2: But it does appear that this bad blood is getting really, 52 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: really nasty. 53 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: It does sound a little bit like that. Hey, Gevin, 54 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: thanks very much, really appreciated this. Devin Gray, our UK correspondent. 55 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to 56 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 57 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.