1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Let us cross the Tasman ste prices with us. Morning mate. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Hey there this or these two poles there seems to 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: be and I think this must add to the other 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: poles that there seems to be a theme elbow called 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: the vote. People sobered up, went right? Who am I 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: actually supporting? The move was on to Labor And he's 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: traveling nicely? Is that fair? 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: Well? Yes? Or is Peter Dutton traveling poorly? Would be 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: the other way to look at it. I mean people 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: are still not yet fully engaged. I mean we kid ourselves. 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: People read the Australian and News poll like you and 12 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: I do, or red Bridge in the other news the 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: tablet papers, but they're not really that engaged. And this 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: is a particularly interesting election. Just quickly to the Newspoll result. 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: It now has Labor ahead fifty two forty eight two 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: party preferred. The coalition's primary vote is back where it 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: was when it lost the last election in twenty twenty two, 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: giving Labor a one seat majority. So it means nothing's 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: really changed. So if you had that the elections weekend, 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: Labor would probably get back in, maybe even with a majority. 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: But the interesting thing about this election is there's four 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: weeks to go, but there's only two clear weeks. You've 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: got Easter followed by Anzac Day. Now our Anzac Day 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: obviously is on the twenty fifth of April, so you've 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: got Good Friday, and then you head into the week 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: that had Easter Monday, with Anzac Day at the bottom 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: end of that. School holidays are on, most people are 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: taking and you'll leave to turn that into a week off. 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: So no one's talking about politics for two of the 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: last four weeks. So Peter Dunton really has one real 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: chance this week and the last week of the campaign 32 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: to turn people's views around. 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm just not convinced that him flip flopping on working 34 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: from home give scenes a level of reassurance he knows 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: what he's doing though, does it. 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't that it gives a sense of weakness. 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: I mean, this is the scheme that the coalition announced 38 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: a few weeks back where and it was supposed to 39 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: be aimed purely and squarely at Cambra public servants. Now 40 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: Albertezi governments employed an extra thirty six thousand public servants 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: since they've been in the office. And what Peter Dutton 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: was saying, if you're a camera public servant. If I 43 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: win the election, you will need to go back to 44 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: the office and not work from home. And he said 45 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: further than that that he was going to cut the 46 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: size of the public service. What the Labor Party have 47 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: cleverly been doing is saying, oh, Peter Dutton's coming for 48 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: any working wife who a housewife who works from home, 49 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: and women were the ones that were seen to be 50 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: the targets that you know, they've got a couple of 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: young children, they've got a job that's able to be 52 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 2: done from home and they're very happy doing that post COVID. Well, 53 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: Peter Dutton never intended it to be that target. So 54 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: what he did yesterday and he'll reiterate that today, is 55 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: he's going to scrap the scheme. He's going to say, oh, well, 56 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: you know, we got that wrong move on. Nothing to 57 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: see here, see you later. It just shows a bit 58 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: of backfooting and a bit of weakness. Weakness, I believe, 59 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: and I think the policy in its original form just 60 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: Mike wasn't properly explained and he should have stuck with it. 61 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: Yep, did right that. I was watching the footage over 62 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: the weekend, So he's kicking a ball around. God, it 63 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: must be boring being a politician. So I'm watching the park. 64 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: He's just going back and forward with his kid, back 65 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: and forth, back and forth. Anyway, kicks it and hits 66 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: the cameraman on the head and suddenly there's blood galore. 67 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: And was that widely publicized? And who won that? Did 68 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: we feel sorry for the cameraman? Was that just life? 69 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: Well? Everywhere? It was publicized everywhere. I mean the problem 70 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: for Peter Dutt is he's a Queenslander and he's trying 71 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: to play a stratum's football. He had no clue how 72 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: to kick it or what to do with it. I mean, 73 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: if you were a media advisor these people, you'd say, 74 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: don't hold babies, don't hold footballs, don't kick things, don't 75 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: try and be a netballer. Just do your buddy job 76 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: and leave that to everyone else. 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Of course, Morrison famously tackled the kid. By 78 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: the way, this thing that elbows on about batteries and 79 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: solar power. So solar power, you got a whole different 80 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: scenario in Australia than we do in New Zealand because 81 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: you've got sunshine, more sunshine than I get. All of that. 82 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: But a battery is a bloody expen thing to contemplate. 83 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: How do you sell that to a wider public? 84 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: Interesting you say that because when you look at this 85 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: policy with more details. So Antony Albinezi comes out of 86 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: the weekend says, everybody who's got solar system on their roof, 87 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: if we win the election come July, I'll give you 88 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: four thousand dollars toward the cost of a battery to 89 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: strap to the side of your house. Everyone goes, wow, 90 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: that's a good idea. Thank fabulous. I might be up 91 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: for that. When you look at the detail, as columnists 92 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: have started to do today, the average cost of a 93 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 2: solar battery in Australia on a property, your private property 94 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: is about nine and a half thousand dollars. So you've 95 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 2: got four you've got to then come up with another five. 96 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: And someone's calculated today that if you put solar panels 97 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: and a battery on from the start today, you're probably 98 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: going to take you something like nine years to pay 99 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: that off to get in the wholesale benefit out of 100 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: what you've done anyway, And look, I just think this 101 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: will flow through to some people. But as my great 102 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: friend Andrew Bolt said in the column this morning. He said, 103 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: it's basically thet giving the rich the ability to have 104 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: batteries and solar on the house and the working poor 105 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: have no possibility of ever doing it exactly. 106 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: And the other thing is that you'll be similar but 107 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: in New Zealand, the average length of a home ownership 108 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: for seven years. So you put your battery and your 109 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: solar on and then you sell your house and you've 110 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: gained literally nothing. 111 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not packing it up and putting it in 112 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: the removal truck, are't you no? 113 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: Exactly? That land bridge thing, by the way, just quickly 114 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: in Port of Darwin is thatt the is it a 115 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: Chinese thing that they've stripped them of their lease? Is 116 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: that an anti China move that we've seen. 117 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: Well, it's one hundred year lease that should never have 118 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: been written. It was written by the state government at 119 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 2: the time. It was a labor Northern Territory commissioned government 120 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: and Dunton came out on Friday and said that he 121 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: would tear it up if he were elected. Anthony Albani's 122 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: in said he did the same thing. It matters to Australians, 123 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: we don't and it matters to our American allies. By 124 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: the way, no one's ever been comfortable with the fact 125 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: that China has control over the port nearest to China 126 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 2: on the north coast of Australia. 127 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: The markets when they open this morning, how braced are you? 128 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: They'll collapse? I like, what Wall Street did you know? 129 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: Everyone with superannuations just holding their breath and saying to 130 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: their financial advisors, don't bring me for the next eight years. 131 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: I want to know, because it'll be a bloodbath. 132 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: That woud amain exactly all right? Might go well? Catch 133 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: up on Wednesday, appreciate very much. The The A six 134 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: was down just one hundred and seventy seven, about two 135 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: and a half two and a half percent on Friday. 136 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: They did worse than we did. But they're going to 137 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: be whacked the same way. 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