1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: If you listen to the show yesterday, you know I 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: talked a lot about AI and AI taking over our 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: lives and taking over our jobs. Well, here's another prime 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: example of this. Turns out quite a few New Zealand's 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Live of New Zealand's libraries either already have or are 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: open to stocking books written by AI authors. Laura Marshall 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: is the executive director at Library and Information Association New Zealand. Laura, 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: good morning, Good morning, Ryan Is. Do you know of 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: any AI written books in libraries yourself? 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: Yes, there are a few, but from our experience and 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 2: talking to library managers, there's not that many. There's only 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: a couple. There's only a couple of supplies that even 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: provide them in New Zealand. So I don't believe that 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: there as many within New Zealand libraries. 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: Yet would you read one? 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: I'd probably read one just to see what it was like. 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: But to be honest, I think they're just an interpretation 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: of our thoughts. I think it's just a good copy, 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: so I'm not really there interested in exploring them long term, 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: but I'd probably read one just to see what it 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: was like. 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: This is the problem, though, what if you read it 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: and it's good, you know, I mean, is that a 24 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: little bit scary that thought? 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 2: To be honest, when I use AI myself, it's interpreting 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: my thoughts, but it never comes out perfect, and it's 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: never enough to entice me to think that it could 28 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: replace myself, or it's we give it the information. I 29 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: don't truly believe that AI could tell our stories. Especially 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: in New Zealand, we have very next stories. You have 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: people's experience as almost doing it's just interpreting those stories 32 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: and that information, and I don't believe that it can 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: really do that very well. 34 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: Yet does AI? 35 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: Well? 36 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I suppose the internet generally. Sometimes I'm surprised 37 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: libraries are still going. But then but then I walked 38 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: past them and they are full. So how do you 39 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: explain that with the Internet. 40 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: So libraries are also community hubs to meet people, it's 41 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: places to go to community programs, it's places to interact. 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: They really are quite an amazing ecosystem. They also reflect 43 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: the community, so they're an amazing place. But believe it 44 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: or not, issues and libraries are actually going up. Just 45 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: because someone's reading a book online or on their iPad, 46 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean they're not reading, so issues are just 47 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: going through the through the roof. Libraries have never been 48 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: more successful. They're just an amazing ecosystem, an amazing place, 49 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: and I don't think AI and the Internet is going 50 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: to turn that around. 51 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, What about if there's a book that's written 52 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: by AI that's really good and that people want, like, 53 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, there's people are asking it reception, whatever do 54 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: you think do you think her libraries should provide it? 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: Yes, libraries usually do stock customer requests and it comes 56 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 2: down to how many times a book is issued. No, 57 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: I doubt they're going to fill an entire library full 58 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: of AI written books. And if we had this conversation 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: of five years, Ryan, I doubt there would be that 60 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: many books that we've good enough to pass the test 61 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: to get into the library. But yes, we do respond 62 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: to the public as well. We have to respond to 63 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 2: what people want to read. And I also believe that 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: if you're reading anything, it's better than reading nothing, getting 65 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 2: into the habit of literacy and reading a book, so 66 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: better better than nothing. 67 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Hey, Laura, appreciate your time this morning. Thanks 68 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: for coming on the show. Laura Marshall. 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