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Speaker 1: Jason Wool's political editors with us. Now, Hey, Jason, Hey, hmmm,

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Speaker 1: so it sounds very much like Jerry thinks this is

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Speaker 1: too harsh.

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Speaker 2: A it does sound like that, I mean, just to

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Speaker 2: catch people up. It was quite an unusual situation in

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Speaker 2: the House today. It's quite unprecedent, unprecedented. The recommendation that

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Speaker 2: came from the Privileges Committee, as outlined by Jerry Brownly.

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Speaker 3: These punishments recommended by the Committee are very severe and

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Speaker 3: are unprecedented in this Parliament as far as I'm aware,

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Speaker 3: since the House first met in eighteen fifty four, no

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Speaker 3: member who's been found guilty of contempt has been suspended

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Speaker 3: for more than three days.

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Speaker 2: Which is obviously quite a long time. And he goes

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Speaker 2: on to point out that a twenty one day suspension

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Speaker 2: for the co leaders was agreed to buy quite a

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Speaker 2: narrow margin within the Privileges Committee. Now, remember Tipati Marii

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Speaker 2: were giving given an opportunity to speak at said committee.

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Speaker 2: They did not. They instead called it a quote silly

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Speaker 2: little committee and did not appear worried at all about

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Speaker 2: its determinations. Despite this, the committee extend did its deadline

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Speaker 2: for their determination, allowing Tea Party Mary the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: submit Tea Party Mary then again declined, and when the

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Speaker 2: recommendations were being considered, Tea Party Mary then leaked them

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Speaker 2: on Facebook along with a poll asking supporters how long

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Speaker 2: they think the committee was going to suspend them for. So,

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Speaker 2: in short, there was the opportunity for the party to respond,

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Speaker 2: but Brownlee is giving them yet another chance.

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Speaker 3: In particular, there's a long standing convention for speakers to

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Speaker 3: safeguard the fear treatment of the minority un teamed on

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Speaker 3: that convention by ensuring the House does not take a

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Speaker 3: decision next week without due consideration.

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Speaker 2: So therefore there's going to be a debate without a

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Speaker 2: time limit, when members who can speak for as long

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Speaker 2: as they like, can speak as many times as they

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Speaker 2: like on Tuesday. This is in budget week, by the way,

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Speaker 2: just letting you know. They can also try to pass

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Speaker 2: motions in a bid to challenge or change how long

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Speaker 2: the suspension is for, i e. If a member wanted to,

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Speaker 2: they could move that the suspension be but for four

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Speaker 2: days rather than twenty one as I understand it now.

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Speaker 2: Speaking to the ruling was Shane Jones, who I think

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Speaker 2: makes quite a good point here.

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Speaker 4: You are expecting a wide ranging debate potentially involving the

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Speaker 4: three people who did not turn up to the Privileges Committee,

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Speaker 4: but who may very very well be in the house.

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Speaker 2: You know. And he's bang on, I think Meanwhile, Ty

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Speaker 2: Party Marty have taken to the program the Hui, where

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Speaker 2: Debbie and Arawdi were both brought to tears when they

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Speaker 2: were discussing how this has affected them.

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Speaker 5: Country loves my aca, the world loves myka hm, but

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Speaker 5: that feels like they don't love me.

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Speaker 2: Then Araladi had a crack at Judith Collins.

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Speaker 5: For who to label us as nothing should have been

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Speaker 5: kind of terrorists in this place, you know, as the

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Speaker 5: unruly natives. And it's sich same rhetoric when we all

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Speaker 5: phetically being ourselves.

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Speaker 2: But at the end of it, it was Judith Collins

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Speaker 2: who had the final word when asked if the twenty

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Speaker 2: one day punishment was too long.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure they'll think of that next time that wished.

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Speaker 3: To behave like that.

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Speaker 2: And there we have it.

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Speaker 1: When he says that she's liken them to terrorists, what's

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Speaker 1: he referring to.

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Speaker 2: No idea, She's never done that to my knowledge. It

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Speaker 2: has never happened. I think he's putting words in her mouth.

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Speaker 2: That's just not something that the Attorney General would say.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And when he's angry with brooker'sy over the sea bomb.

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Speaker 2: He's not happy.

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Speaker 3: But this is one of the lowest I've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: When you go to that sort of tandem language, nothing

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Speaker 3: is beneath you after that, is it.

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Speaker 2: So we asked Broke about this today she said it

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Speaker 2: was rather odd. Now the Speaker has decided that he

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Speaker 2: was in fact wrong to allow the question yesterday, and

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Speaker 2: he was wrong to have and have not addressed the

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Speaker 2: use of the word in the house when it happened.

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Speaker 2: You all know the word that I'm referring to here,

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Speaker 2: And that's not the only walk back today. Have to

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Speaker 2: listen to what Chris Hopkins said just before going into

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Speaker 2: the house.

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Speaker 6: So, in so far is our quoting from a rather

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Speaker 6: controversial comment yesterday meant that the Labour Party was contributing

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Speaker 6: to the distractions around that. I think we will own

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Speaker 6: that it would have been better if we had quoted

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Speaker 6: from something else rather than from that particular column.

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Speaker 2: So essentially they were wrong to do that. But this

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Speaker 2: is what Chippy said yesterday.

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Speaker 5: It's Gini's primary Christian in the House today.

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Speaker 6: It's quoting directly from an article that was published in

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Speaker 6: the paper.

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Speaker 5: A widely criticized article.

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Speaker 6: People, we live in a country of free speek.

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Speaker 2: So something is obviously gotten to Chris Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: Well, the thing that's got to Chris Hopkins is that

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Speaker 1: are backfired.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, a big way, in a big way.

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Speaker 1: Hey, did you see I'm very excited to tell you

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Speaker 1: that there are going to be some people in the

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Speaker 1: budget lock up with us.

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Speaker 2: I knew you were going to bring this up as

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Speaker 2: soon as I saw it today.

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Speaker 1: Did you think, oh, no, here they come, these economists.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm going to teach them how to read that budget.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't okay. You said on air the other day

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Speaker 2: you called said I had a ba or bugger all

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Speaker 2: or something like that. I still remind you I do

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Speaker 2: have I do have an economics degree about related.

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Speaker 1: Saying that about you because it was a lie, then.

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Speaker 2: I do have some very and I made listen. My

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Speaker 2: argument was never that I was going to sit there

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Speaker 2: and say, oh, I know best, but rather than everybody else.

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Speaker 2: My argument was the first take on the numbers is

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Speaker 2: just a pure this is what it says in the budget,

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Speaker 2: and then we go to the CTU and then we

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Speaker 2: go to the Taxpayers Union for reaction. Afterwards, that was

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Speaker 2: all I was saying.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Jason Heather three days running, Jason Wills,

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Speaker 1: Political Editor.

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