1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and a player store. 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: News Talks, it'd be good morning, welcome to the start 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: of your week. It is Monday, the eighteenth of November. 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: Great to have your company just gone six half to 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: five here on News Talks. There'd be our lead interview 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: this morning before six is health. The hr and Comm's 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: contractor's spend has doubled over the past year. Why it's 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: meant to be coming down? The link between speeding fines 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: and crashes. Trump trying to stop the war in Ukraine. 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: Adam Cooper on Sport and Gavin Gray out of the UK. 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: The agenda. 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: Russia's gone hard on Ukraine's energy infrastructure heading into winter. 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty missiles dropped over the weekend. 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: As winter arrives and we have had the first snow 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: here in the last few days. Russia turns its attention 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: to Ukraine's energy infrastruct in an attempt to plunge this 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: country into darkness during the most difficult months. 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 2: Trump reckons he can stop this will soon. Remember we've 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: been talking about this. Zelenski actually commented on that during 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: the weekend, So I'll get into that in just a 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: few moments. The Philippines meanwhile being hit by its sixth 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: typhoon in the space of a month. Win speed one 25 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety five kilometers now been recorded, Officials warning 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: a potentially catastrophic and life threatening situation. One hundred and 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: sixty people died over the past five storms to the 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: Middle East, and Hesbila's chief comms guy has been killed. 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 4: In Lebanon, targeting of Hamad Afif, who is within the 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 4: party's political body or media body, is significant here because 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: it's probably the first time since the beginning of this 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: swarm that a non military off a non leaders being 33 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 4: directly target had an assist. 34 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: Lebanon is considering a new US lead cease fire deal 35 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: at the moment. Back home, the Prime Minister is about 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: to land literally in the next half an hour, following 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: the APEX summit in Peru, and that hucker that was 38 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: heard around the world has been following him. I think 39 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: this is actually a bit of a nonsense story. One 40 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: person was seen playing a video in the back of 41 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: a speech that Luxelon was giving in Lema Peru. All 42 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: of a sudden, the he boy has followed him to Peru. 43 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: Really anyway, he will be landing back in Wellington big 44 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: day tomorrow with up to thirty thousand people expected on 45 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: Parliament's grounds for the Hecoy against the Treaties Principal's Bill. 46 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: The big question is does Luxon go out to meet them? 47 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: The answer should be no. You end up with either 48 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: mud or a Lamington on your head. Remember what happened 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: the other option of courses, You get some of the 50 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: group to come and meet you in Parliament. That's probably 51 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: the more sensible way to do it. It is nine 52 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: after five. 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: News and Views you trust to start your day. It's 54 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: Furniture Beds and a flying Store. News Talk said, so. 56 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: Really interesting on Ukraine's been going two and a half 57 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: years now and they've just had their bloodiest battles of 58 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: the war over the last couple of months, particularly for Russia. 59 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 2: They've lost more troops in the last couple of months 60 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 2: than they have at any time since the start of 61 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: the war. And in comes Trump. I'm going to fix it, 62 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: you know, by Christmas or within a day or whatever 63 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: it is. He said, how does he actually do that? 64 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: Listen to the language from Zelensky, who has said, basically, 65 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: Trump will have a better chance of ending this war 66 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: than Biden did. 67 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 5: SrAl and faster with the policy of the seam that 68 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 5: will now lead the way up. This is their approach, Gyam, 69 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 5: their promise to their society switch and it is also 70 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 5: very important to them. 71 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: Right, So how do you actually do that? How do 72 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: you stop the war in Ukraine? Well, Trump's insiders have 73 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: given some insight into how into their thinking, some of 74 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: their thinking about this. First of all, forget about Crimea. 75 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: Zelensky's been talking about, Oh, we want to get Crimea back. 76 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: That was our next note. You're going to let go 77 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: of that. And then you would set up DMZ DE 78 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: militarized demilitarized Zone like they have between North and South Korea. 79 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: You basically freeze the fighting at its current point. That 80 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: would mean by the way, Russia keeping about a fifth 81 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: of Ukraine that it's managed to grab so far. Ukraine 82 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: pledges not to join NATO for twenty years. Washington backs 83 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: them up to the hilt with weapons. On that DMZ 84 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: SO continues spending and supplying on weapons to deter the Russians, 85 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: and you would have a twelve hundred kilometer DMZ patrolled 86 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: by either NATO or UN troops. And the curse complication. 87 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: We have to sort that out because that's where the 88 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: Ukrainians managed to get into Russian territory. That's the sort 89 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: of open question. How does that used as a bargaining chip? 90 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: But that is the rough blueprint apparently for how they 91 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: might end the war in Ukraine. So two and a 92 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 2: half years of fighting, can Trump pull this off? Certainly 93 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: the world would appreciate it. Certainly, I think those living 94 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: in the regions where fighting is taking place would appreciate it. 95 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: The question will be can Pousian accept Can his ego 96 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: accept a compromise because he didn't have to on crime? 97 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: Did he? And the other question is is Ukraine willing 98 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: to forego a fifth of its territory? But then you've 99 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: got to think, well, interest in this is going to 100 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: Wayne is interested in all wars Waynes And you know 101 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: Trump might say, well, we're not going to give you 102 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: any weapons, and then you screwed. You know you damned 103 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: if you do, damn if you don't. So do you 104 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: accept a deal like this? Nine two ninety two. The 105 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: numbers to text just go one twelve after. 106 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: Five Ryan Bridge. 107 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: We're talking to Robert Patman next. After Trump's meeting with 108 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: shi Jing Pang. Should we join ORCUST too? Very geopolitical 109 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 2: show this morning, but there's a lot going on. Should 110 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: we join UCUST too? What if the Yanks through in 111 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: a little sweetener like, hey, we won't we won't tear 112 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: a few if you come on and join Orcust? But 113 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: then how does China on to that? We'll ask Robert 114 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: Patman next. 115 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 116 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fifth City, New 117 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 1: Zealand's Furniture Beds and a playing store News talk. 118 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: Sai'd be just before six this morning. We're looking at 119 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: a rather strange story the opposition having a crack at 120 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,559 Speaker 2: the government over health spending in the year to June. 121 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: Now this is June this year, which means that some 122 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: of the spending would have of course been under their 123 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: watch and included you know, HR officials, comms people stuff 124 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: like that. So is it a smart idea for Aishaviel 125 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: to be having a crack at the government over spending 126 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: that she was half responsible for we'll look at that 127 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: just before six. It's just gone quarter past five. Bryan 128 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: Bridge Bludston landing back in New Zealand any moment now. 129 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: After the APEX Summit wrapped up in Lima, Peru, New 130 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: Zealand secured trade deals with Costa Rica, Switzerland and Iceland 131 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: during the summit, removing tariffs on wood and wool products. 132 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: I'll tell you more about that in a second, because 133 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: it is quite interesting. Luxon having his first meeting with She, 134 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: his first meeting with the Indonesia, Indonesians, the Vietnamese Perode, Chile, 135 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: his first formal meeting with the new Japanese Prime minister, 136 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: and he said see later Biden. Robert Patman's I Targer 137 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: University's International Relations Experience with US Live. Good morning, Robert, 138 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning Ryan. Great to have you on 139 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: the show. Tell me, thank you. What did you make 140 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: of that meeting with Luxeon and She? 141 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 6: I thought the Luxe She meeting went as well as 142 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 6: could be expected. As mister Luxon quite candidly said, there 143 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 6: are real points of convergence, but there's also points of divergence. 144 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 6: And amongst the diverging points were the fact that we 145 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 6: don't see a toy on news China's role in the 146 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 6: South Pacific see area, and we also don't really see 147 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 6: itoy over the utility of ORCUS in the Indo Pacific region. 148 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 6: So but putting those points aside, it was I think 149 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 6: the meeting went very well and they seem to agree 150 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 6: to disagree without the whole thing poisoning the atmosphere. And 151 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 6: the fact that mister Luxelm got invited to China within 152 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 6: the next few months I think is good because at 153 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 6: the time, China remains our biggest trade partner, Unlike the 154 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 6: United States. China gave us a free trade agreement. 155 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 5: And. 156 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 6: It's important to consolidate that relationship at a time when 157 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 6: the new Trump administration seems poised to impose blanket tariffs 158 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 6: on its trading partners. 159 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: Now they have obviously, the Chinese have expressed concern about 160 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: ucust Pillar two. They're worried about what it could mean 161 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: for the region, and it's the US getting into Asia Pacific, etc. 162 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: And we are on the fence at the moment about 163 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: signing it right. We are saying, still reading the details, 164 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: still reading the te le's we'll figure it out as 165 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: we go. What if the U sweeten the deal and said, hey, 166 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: we'll exempt you from trade tariff if you sign. 167 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 6: Well, that's a possibility. But you know what, I don't 168 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 6: think that there was a signal that mister Luxon gave. 169 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 6: I think there's a border concern here. New Zealand, unlike 170 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 6: the United States, has a huge state in what's called 171 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 6: international rules based or the both in security terms and 172 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 6: trade terms. We've been very concerned by the undermining of 173 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 6: the wto the World Trade Organization by both the Trump 174 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 6: administration between twenty seventeen twenty twenty and also the Biden 175 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 6: administration as well. And mister Trump's protectionism doesn't sit well 176 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 6: with our position. So I think we'd be obviously open 177 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 6: to negotiation exemption, but I think we'd have a broader 178 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 6: concern about mister Trump's protection and having an effect on 179 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 6: global trade, in which of course we have a big stake. 180 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 6: So in short, Ryan, I think we'd be open to 181 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 6: negotiationing exemption, but not at the expense of our position 182 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 6: of protectionism in general. 183 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: If we did sign it, how what reaction could we 184 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: get from China Because the Ausies have gone are there 185 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 2: for opinion for a pound, and they haven't had much 186 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: a way of a stern reaction in China. 187 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 6: But they're in a qualitaively different position for US. They've 188 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 6: always been closer to the US, and so China look 189 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 6: at them in that regard. And secondly, China's trade relationship. 190 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 6: They import a lot of minerals from Australia. They've also 191 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 6: had tenser relations with China. They sanctioned them, I think 192 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 6: in twenty twenty twenty one, so I would hesitate to 193 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 6: draw the parallel it China sees New Zealand is much 194 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 6: more of an independent player in the Asia Pacific. We've 195 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 6: got to make up our own mind. I'm a bit 196 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 6: of a skeptic in August myself, but I was struck 197 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 6: by the fact that mister Bluckson said, on the one hand, 198 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 6: he thought it was generally a positive thing. On the 199 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 6: other hand, he said it may not necessarily be the 200 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 6: right thing for New Zealm or implied that yeah and so, yeah, 201 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 6: he's keeping You're quite right. I think he's keeping his 202 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 6: power to dry, so to speak. I think the advent 203 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 6: of the Trump administration has really complicated New Zeum's decision 204 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 6: making around UCAS. I mean, after all, many keywis will 205 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 6: be upset whether they are left, right or center. If 206 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 6: we got even closer to a country was effectively trying 207 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 6: to impose tariff on us or some of our. 208 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: Friends exactly, which is why you were thinking. I mean, 209 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: if you were going, if you were going to put 210 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: me into paper, you would want some well, I would 211 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: want to assuage me. I would like some sweetener. Thank 212 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: you very much in the way of an exemption from tariff. 213 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: But that's just me. Robert, thank you very much for 214 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: you analysis. Is always great to have you on the show. 215 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: That is Professor attag nivisit the international relations expert? Robert 216 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: Petman News Talks in b. 217 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: The First Word on the News of the Day Early 218 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture 219 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: Beds and a player store. You talks. 220 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 2: That'd be twenty two after five lots of sport at 221 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: the weekend, Tyson obviously playing that YouTuber guy. I watched that. 222 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in a second, but first, Adam 223 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: Cooper's here was sporting the All Blacks, losing by one 224 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 2: point to France after a good first half. It was 225 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: disappointing to watch. Wasn't it a Monie run? Certainly? 226 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 7: Was you know, just as you said, so much promise 227 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 7: from a very strong and comprehensive first half. I thought 228 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 7: arguably one of their best spells of forty minutes from 229 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 7: the whole season, with the All Blacks doing what we've 230 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 7: known all year that they're capable of setting up some 231 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 7: great tries. 232 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: They rarely had the free sure on the back foot. 233 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 7: I think they had to make well over a hundred 234 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 7: tackles against the All Blacks and that that first spell, 235 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 7: but as it has also been rather familiar this season, 236 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 7: just just losing their way a little bit in the second. 237 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 7: In the second spell, you know, a little bit of 238 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 7: decision making, a little bit of discipline, you know, you 239 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 7: think of a suffer on Moor's watched lineout throw. You 240 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 7: know that the likes of Cody Taylor getting penalized there. Yes, 241 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 7: there were some contentious decisions with the officiating, which we're 242 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 7: always going to debate afterwards, but I think. 243 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: The All Blacks can we can't go on and on 244 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: about this. 245 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 7: I think the All Blacks lost that game themselves, regardless 246 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 7: of a couple of possible referee calls or TM decisions. 247 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 7: I think they again just lost their way a bit 248 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 7: and multiple factors just you know, let them down. Quite astonishing. 249 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 7: Now three in a row for France against the All 250 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 7: Blacks and starts to France, of course, where the All 251 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 7: Blacks lost the final last year, sort of comes back 252 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 7: to haunt them, which is really interesting. Hey, well what 253 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 7: do they do now, because that's their last game for 254 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 7: the Northern Tour, isn't it. I've got Italy this weekend, 255 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 7: so one more not not as obviously as strong as 256 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 7: opponents as the last couple of weeks, so I suspect 257 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 7: we'll see a few of the younger players get a 258 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 7: bit of a run and they'll try and end the 259 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 7: year on a bit of a high. So certainly the 260 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 7: toughest couple of games of the tours all done on Dusty. 261 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: And you've got an update for us on Black Caps 262 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: in the stri Lanka. 263 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 7: Yes, Schlanka, So yeah, Sri Lanka are batting and the 264 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 7: run chase, they're trying to get two hundred and ten 265 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 7: to beat New Zealand. They are doing pretty well one 266 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 7: hundred and twenty three for five, needing eighty seven runs 267 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 7: from eighteen overs. So yeah, Cus almendis just in the 268 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 7: middle order the epsod of holding firm for the Sri Lankans. 269 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 7: So unless New Zealand can urgently get a few court wickets, 270 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 7: it's going to be a Sri Lankan victory, and which 271 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 7: would see them wrap up the series as well, because 272 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 7: of course the Srilankans won this first one day just 273 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 7: a few days ago. 274 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: Brilliant, Thank you Adam Cooper's Debby's Sport. It is twenty 275 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: four minutes after five Ray and Bridge. So Trump has 276 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: appointed his new US Department of Energy secretary, and he 277 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: is we will drill, baby, drill. Chris right. He's an 278 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: oil and gas industry executive. He was the founder and 279 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: CEO of Liberty Energy, which is an oil field services 280 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: firm based in Denver, Colorado. He aims to maximize production 281 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: of oil and gas into seat ways to boost a 282 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: new generation of electricity. So this is their new Secretary 283 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: of Energy. They'll be stoked with this. He made a 284 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: splash in twenty nineteen when he drank fracking fluid on 285 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: camera to demonstrate it was not dangerous. And here's the 286 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: rub for Democrats, by the way, who might be upset 287 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: about this. US oil output hit the highest level any 288 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: country has ever produced under Biden. 289 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: The early edition full show podcast on i Art Radio 290 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks ev Bus President. 291 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: You're on news Talks. Heb it is twenty seven minutes 292 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: after five. I felt bad watching those eight rounds on 293 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: the ring with Mike Tyson de jew. I felt bad 294 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: for him, the fifty eight year old. What on earth 295 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: was he doing in there? Twenty million US dollars from Netflix. 296 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: Apparently that's what they paid him. That's what he was 297 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: doing there. His networks about ten million. He went bankrupt 298 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: a few years ago. Of course, went to prison. Was 299 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: worth three hundred million. Ayway, he needed money, poor old 300 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: Mike Tyson. And Netflix paid the other guy, Jake Paul 301 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: forty million dollars president Gate Tarkit sales Gate ticket sales 302 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: are from AT and T Stadium brought in close to 303 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: US eighteen million dollars and seventy fans and Netflix while 304 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: they won the fight with sixty five million viewers at peak. 305 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: It's part of a new strategy that they've got to 306 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: get live sport events to their subscribers, including those that 307 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: are paying less but getting fed ads on the platform. 308 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: This is their clever strategy. So their ad supported flip 309 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: platform now accounts for fifty percent of their new signups. 310 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: It's grown to seventy million new use in news in 311 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: just two years. It's a credible These big tech bro 312 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: Silicon Valley giant media companies, you know, YouTube's all of 313 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: those types. They're just going from strength to strength, aren't they. 314 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: And they're the ones that have our attention. There are one, 315 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: two and three most streamed in New Zealand, and yet 316 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: we here in New Zealand and Australia are trying to 317 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: force them into news content deals with us. We're battling 318 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: with taxpayers cash to reinvigorate failing state media companies to 319 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: compete with these guys and are doomed to fail battle. 320 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: We're like the fifty eight year old Mike Tyson who 321 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: apparently nearly died before entering the ring. Annoying twenty seven 322 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: year old new to boxing but bringing in the eyeballs 323 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: Jake Paul, these big tech companies. So what do we 324 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: need to do? Keep fighting, get more bloodied, get more bruised, 325 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 2: or create partnerships and try and get our content to 326 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: their eyeballs. 327 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines. Ryan Bridge you for twenty 328 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: twenty four on Early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's 329 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: furniture bids and a playing store. 330 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: News Talk zidby good Morning New Zealand, twenty four minutes 331 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: away from six year on news Talk, said by welcome 332 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: to the start of your week. Welcome to you Monday. 333 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: We're going to go to Gavin Graham the UK shortly 334 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: Poland scrambling its air force. Y also this concern we're 335 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 2: spending too much still on consultants and pr gurus, et cetera, 336 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: and the healthiest we'll talk to the Sarah Dalton about that. 337 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 2: We'll go to our reporters around the country. Cash. Remember 338 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: I said a couple of weeks ago that we should 339 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: make it a law, change the law to allow people 340 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: to use cash for essentials like fuel and like groceries, 341 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: because one day we'll have another earthquake or whatever and 342 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 2: everyone will have their postcards and no one will be 343 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: able to use them because the power goes down and 344 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: there's glitches, et cetera. So we need to encourage cash more. 345 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 2: And at the moment in New Zealand, you only need 346 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: the only requirement for accepting cash's legal tender is if 347 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: you're paying off debt, so you can use cash to 348 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: do that. However, it should go further than that. You 349 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 2: should be able to pay for your groceries and for 350 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: your petrol with cash. Now at the moment most of 351 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: those outlets accept it, but one day they probably won't. Well, 352 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: what's happening today? Apparently, according to the Sydney Morning Herald, 353 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: today the Australian Government will announce exactly what I said 354 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: we should that retailers must sell gross groceries and fuel 355 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: and accept banknotes and coins. In doing so. You can 356 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: accept other forms obviously, you can still do your payWave 357 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: and your credit card and whatnot. But they're saying we 358 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 2: need to keep cash and circulation. Should something, should the 359 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: shite hit the fan twenty two minutes away from six 360 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: News Talks, he'd be Bryan Bridgelake Benny's without Dunedian News Blake, 361 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 2: Good Morning. The Dunedan mayor upset that Shane snubbed them. 362 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 8: Yeah, so this is Health Minister Shane Retty's decision to 363 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 8: decline his SOS Hospital rally invite, which the mayor is 364 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 8: calling a missed opportunity. Residents are invited to the Dunedin 365 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 8: Town Hall from six pm as part of the council's 366 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 8: campaign to have the new hospital built to its original 367 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 8: promise plans. Mayor Jules Raddick says he's disappointed but not 368 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 8: surprised by the Health Minister's absence. He says reci would 369 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 8: have been able to hear from independent experts who could 370 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 8: determine the right size for the hospital, but Raddit says 371 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 8: they'll just send the Health Minister a no nonsense statement instead. 372 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: All right, how's the weather. 373 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 8: It's fine. Northeasterly is on the cards today, which will 374 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 8: ease this evening high of twenty. 375 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: Cheers, Blake, have a good day, Claire's and christ Church clear. 376 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: Young Fayibao being farewelled at a service today. 377 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 9: Yes, this is real estate agent Young Faybao Ryan. Members 378 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 9: of the public are being invited to join her family 379 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 9: and friends for a service today. It's at eleven this 380 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 9: morning at a church in Stotburn called Our Lady of 381 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 9: Victories Now. Organizers say everyone's welcome. They want to remember 382 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 9: Young Faybao's beautiful life and celebrate some of her incredible accomplishments. 383 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 9: That are inviting people to share their own favorite memories. 384 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 10: Of her too. 385 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 9: This comes, of course, as the trial for the man 386 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 9: alleged to have murdered. Boo continues, it'll be the fifth 387 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 9: week of that trial. This week the crown witnesses are 388 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 9: still being called and the accused Tin Jun Choo is 389 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 9: now running his own defense. 390 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather today? 391 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 9: Fine for christ Church as well, fresh northeasterly is easing 392 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 9: a bit later the high will be eighteen brilliant. 393 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: Thank you. In Wellington, the hikoy's heading there and is 394 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: the for us this morning? 395 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 6: Mix? 396 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: What's the advice for people? 397 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 11: Yeah, as you said earlier, up to thirty thousand expected 398 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 11: to descend on Parliament tomorrow. That might potentially overflow from 399 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 11: the grounds. The central city is going to be an 400 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 11: absolute nightmare logistically, public servants being urged to work from home, 401 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 11: several businesses. The same police say a similar precedent might 402 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 11: be the Foreshore and seabed protest, but they insist they 403 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 11: are well prepared for a mass protest at Parliament that 404 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 11: might make a bit of a change. A police actually 405 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 11: quite complimentary of how this hecoy has been organized so far. Ultimately, 406 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 11: the key message is to remain peaceful and on message. 407 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 11: Tomorrow should go relatively smoothly. If that's the case, schools 408 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 11: have to remain open some online options for some students. Otherwise, 409 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 11: for instance, kids who go to the hecoy instead of 410 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 11: scheduled NCEEEA exam won't be eligible for a derived grade. 411 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 11: Backbench Apub across the road expressing a little bit of 412 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 11: concern about again traffic and logistics and such. 413 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: It is a shame that they were a big shame 414 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: if the kids went and missed out on their grades, 415 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 2: because that's forever, isn't it. 416 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 11: How's the weather, max, Oh, terrific, fine light winds today? 417 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: There we go, Thank you very much, neighbors and Auckland. Hey, Neva, Hello, 418 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: are you t launching a brand new class? Yes, Taylor Swift. 419 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 12: Correct, Taylor Swift Communications Professional. So now apparently this story 420 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 12: came out, you know what was it a couple of 421 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 12: months ago? But the new angle it starts today, the 422 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 12: new summer school course at aut And apparently this is 423 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 12: going to analyze Swift's eighteen year career through the lens 424 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 12: of communications discipline. So the course runs from today until 425 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 12: December thirteenth, apparently that Swift's birthday. So they're going to 426 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 12: have modules three days a week Monday, Wednesday and Friday. 427 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 12: We're just talking about this in the newsroom, like I mean, 428 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 12: would you. We don't know how many have signed up, 429 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 12: though we're going to find out exactly how many of s. 430 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: I just would have thought it would be part of 431 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 2: a wider music course where you would look at different 432 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: artists rather than have tire course on one exactly. 433 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 12: I mean what they give back in the day, we 434 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 12: would have loved to have sell a black or none 435 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 12: of them as scory. 436 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 10: Do you know who they are? 437 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: Sell a black? 438 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 6: I do not? 439 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 12: Oh, your parents or grandparents. She's still alive. Apparently she's ninety. 440 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 12: There used to be this whole program about her every 441 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 12: Sunday night when the black TV was black and white 442 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 12: back in those days. 443 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't have to look her up. 444 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 11: Yes, and here I am. 445 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 12: I've got to go because I'm sitting here on my 446 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 12: knees because there's no jem. 447 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: We're a bit poor, aren't we. How's the weather today? Never? 448 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: Partly? 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Please read the relevant Milford 472 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: product disclosure statement at Milford Asset dot Com. 473 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: International Correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind 474 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: for new Zealand business. 475 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: Kevin Gray is our man in the UK and scrambling 476 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: as air force because of these massive Russian attacks on Ukraine. 477 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: That's just as winter's coming, right, Skeiven. 478 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 13: Sure, we'll just try and sort of force Ukraine into 479 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 13: a miserable winter and of course it does get bitterly 480 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 13: cold there if they knock out all these power plants. Now, 481 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 13: we've just heard in the last few minutes that the 482 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 13: death toll of those overnight strikes missile and drone attacks 483 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 13: from Russia killed ten people, has just gone up from 484 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 13: seven and there are of course others in hospital. And 485 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 13: indeed it was the largest coordinated assault since early September. 486 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 13: One hundred and twenty missiles and ninety drones were launched. 487 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 13: So what is the response from Europe. Well, Poland, Ukraine's 488 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 13: neighbor on the western side, scrambled fighter jets to patron 489 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 13: its own airspace. And that is because some of these drones, 490 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 13: some of the missiles will go into the westernmost part 491 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 13: of Ukraine, in other words, very near to Poland and 492 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 13: also Hungry, which neighbors both Ukraine and Poland, also on 493 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 13: alert with drone attacks just twenty kilometers from the border. 494 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 13: And the country's defense minister. They're saying the situation is 495 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 13: being monitored continuously. 496 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, two and a half he is under this war. 497 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: What's the vibe, because obviously Trump's come in he says 498 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to end at your head Zelenski at the weekend, 499 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 2: saying if anyone can end it, you know, Trump has 500 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 2: a bit of chance of ending it. Given as ritric. 501 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 2: Then perhaps Biden did this talk of a DMZ zone 502 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: between the countries of Ukraine agreeing not to join NATO 503 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: for twenty years. What's the vibe? Is it likely? 504 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 13: I think here in Europe the concern is Donald Trump 505 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 13: will simply turned the tap off, either completely or largely 506 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 13: on aid the Ukraine financial aid and military aid. And 507 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 13: then the big question is will Europe step up to 508 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 13: the plate and fill the void. They said they will, 509 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 13: but well, there plenty of youre skeptical about that. And 510 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 13: indeed the German Chancellor, leader of Germany, on our Schultz, 511 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 13: he put a call in to Vladimir Putin. They spoke 512 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 13: for over an hour. It was the first time they 513 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 13: were spoken directly for nearly two years, and it infuriated 514 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 13: many in Europe who believe that the opportunity for diplomacy 515 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 13: has gone. There should be no appeasement and indeed they 516 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 13: should step up the support of Ukraine. 517 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: Interesting, Gavin, thank you for that. Givin gray Are UK 518 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: europe Correspondent, twelve minutes away from six ran Bridge. The 519 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: oppositions having a crack at Health New Zealand and the government. 520 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 2: The agency spent eighty five million dollars more on consultants 521 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: and contractors in the year to June twenty twenty four 522 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: than it did in the year to June twenty twenty three. 523 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: Now some caveats on this. That includes all but half, 524 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: well about half actually of labour's time and power, and 525 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 2: it also includes people and comms. An increase in people 526 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: in comms. Now people means HR. I think comm's meaning 527 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: communication staff. That's blown out twenty seven million dollars to 528 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: sixty one. It's doubled. The Health Agency is putting the 529 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: spending increase down to a global shortage of health workers. 530 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: The roles hired on a contracting basis are needed to 531 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: fulfill time workforce gaps, according to the department. Sarah Dalton's 532 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: with the Association of Salary Medical Specialists. She's the executive 533 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 2: director there and she's with us this morning. This is 534 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: AzID be Exclusive. Good morning Sarah, Good morning Ryan. How 535 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: I I'm very well, thank you. I'm assuming, on the 536 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: face of it, you would support them spending more money 537 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: to fill gaps that need to be filled. 538 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 14: Yeah, on the face of it, we would obviously. You know, 539 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 14: if you and I are our family go to hospital, 540 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 14: we want to know that there are other clinicians there 541 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 14: to provide good care, right Yeah, So. 542 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 2: That's good, So we're happy case closed. 543 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 14: I wish it were that simple. So we would like 544 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 14: to see U fortater Health New Zealand putting that money 545 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 14: into recruiting and retaining permanence staff. And that is they 546 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 14: haven't got the balance right there. So every hospital system 547 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 14: will require local cover. Sometimes they're basically temporary or casual 548 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 14: doctors or other staff who can fill gaps. But this 549 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 14: health system continues to rely too heavily on locums to 550 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 14: run hospitals. It means staffing remains fragile, and it means 551 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 14: it's really expensive. 552 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: We're never going to get that right though. I mean, 553 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: I mean we've got actually an opposition party here criticizing 554 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: a budget which they were half responsible for, which probably 555 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: just goes to show you that no matter who's in power, 556 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: we're going to be using locans up to Marzu. 557 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 6: No. 558 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 14: I still think that the balance is wrong. We are 559 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 14: still waiting to see a comprehensive workforce plan and a 560 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 14: workforce census that says, actually, Health New Zealand knows specifically 561 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 14: where the people are, where the specific shortages are, and 562 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 14: what the plan is to address them. You know, the 563 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 14: twenty twenty three workforce Plan identified seventeen hundred doctors missing 564 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 14: from the system. This year's budget made no reference to 565 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 14: those known vacancies in terms of how they were funding 566 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 14: or how they were working to fill those gaps. And 567 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 14: this year's health workforce plan is missing in action. I 568 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 14: asked the minister about it. He says, it's with cabinets. 569 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: Okay, a lot of things with cabinet at the moment. 570 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: Hey just randomly a lot of stories about us importing. 571 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: You know, we've got new registrations for doctors coming in 572 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: from Ireland and England and Australia and stuff. They're making 573 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: up a greater percentage of our new registrations than locally 574 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: trained doctors. Same story going with nurses. Is that really 575 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: a big problem? Who cares where if my doctor was 576 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: trained in Australia or here, they're still going to do 577 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: the same operation on me, aren't they. 578 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 14: Yeah, So we always rely heavily on overseas trained doctors. 579 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 14: That isn't new. Upwards of forty five percent of our 580 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 14: senior doctors intend to sew overseas trained. We still don't 581 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 14: even come close to training as many as we need 582 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 14: here and we would like a greater invest into that. 583 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 14: So on the face of it, as long as those 584 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 14: doctors have are appropriately training, qualified and learn a bit 585 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 14: about what it means to work in New Zealand, that 586 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 14: isn't a massive problem. Although we think having a sensible 587 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 14: mix of locally and overseas trained doctors helps in terms 588 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 14: of again sustainable workforce. 589 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: Because I suppose they could all bugger off at some point, 590 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: couldn't they all? Or a pandemic or a war comes along, 591 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: they all go home and we're left with no one 592 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: to do the operations. Sarah, thank you very much for that. 593 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: Sarah Dalton, Executive director of the Association of Salaried Medical Specialists. 594 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: It's eight to six news talks there be on your 595 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: Monday morning. 596 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with 597 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture Beds and 598 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: a playing store. 599 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: News Talks be it is five away from six year 600 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: on news Talks B Mike, I'm just going to hand 601 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: you Mike hasn't got a change talk to me most. 602 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 10: Actually, what sort of welcome or lack of welcome is? 603 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: This never got on her knees when she came in, 604 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: all right, So that's how desperate we are without a seat. 605 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: I want to look at So just have a look 606 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: at this photo. Have you seen that? You probably would 607 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: have seen it last night. Yes, So this is the 608 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: this is modern American politics. It's a photo of Elon Musk, 609 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, Trump Junior, RFK, Speaker of the House, all 610 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: sitting on a on a jet probably Trump forse one 611 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: yes with McDonald's Yeah it is. 612 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 10: And is RFK eating It doesn't look like he's eating anything. 613 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: He's holding up as there's a quarter pounded, there's a 614 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: fileo fish. But they're all going to the UFC. I mean, 615 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: what is this? 616 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 10: It's amazing. It's a very good piece. 617 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 15: You should read in the Sydney Morning Herald this morning. Yeah, 618 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 15: that talked to eighteen people on under the auspices of 619 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 15: anonymity so they could speak freely. And apparently at Mary 620 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 15: Lago it's gone feral. And so what you're seeing is 621 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 15: a repeat of what happened last time. Is so he 622 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 15: had quite a dis team in terms of putting together 623 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 15: a campaign and winning it and all that sort of stuff, 624 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 15: way more discipline than twenty sixteen. 625 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 10: The moment he won, he went nuts. 626 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 15: And so your Gates and all the other crazies that 627 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 15: he's putting forward are not part of the strategy. They're 628 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 15: just him, you know, free wheeling and ad libbing. And 629 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 15: one of the quotes is a really good quote. He goes, 630 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 15: I can't find you one of these guys is involved 631 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 15: in the Senate. I can't find you any more than 632 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 15: twenty senators who will ever vote for Gates because some 633 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 15: people still take their job seriously. 634 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they got all sorts of yeah, he won't 635 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: get through will No. 636 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 10: I don't think you will, which, on the other hand, 637 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 10: to be a problem. 638 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: Now everyone saying, oh, this guy's been accused of sexual 639 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: assault the president, you know, as a convicted felon. The 640 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: bar is not exactly high. 641 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 10: I can't stand here holding this microphone up or no 642 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 10: chair forever. 643 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: Get on with your show, all right, See you tomorrow. 644 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 645 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: to news Talk it'd Be from five am weekdays, or 646 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio