1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Later stays it agri Insights. It tells us the cost 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: of running farm twenty five percent higher than post COVID. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: These costs not inflationary, this structural. More interesting for me 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: was the bit that tells us productivity. The productivity gap 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: is large. Now, Doctor Jaquelin Roweth Edjunct Professer of course 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: at Agrascience in Aggrascience at Lincoln University is back Well's Jacquelin, 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: very good morning to. 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: You, Good morning to you. 9 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: Make the twenty five percent? Is that just a reflection 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: of life. I mean, whether it's a farm or a house, 11 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: stuff goes up and stays up, and that's the way 12 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: the economy works. 13 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: Yes, and houses has actually gone a lot more, but 14 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: at the same time wages go up, and so overall 15 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: it is the farmer who buys retail and sells wholefale 16 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: that is feed feeling the pinch. And that's what these 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: data show. 18 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: Does the cost vary from sector to sector in this report? 19 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: Yes, And we look at poor old pitfruit. During the 20 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 2: time since COVID until twenty twenty four, pitfruits costs went 21 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: up eleven percent, but here we fruit forty nine percent. 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: And therey of course are staple thirty one. So we 23 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: are always under pressure and that's why productivity is so 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 2: important exactly. 25 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: I'll come back to that in the moment, and can 26 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: we how much is it counteracted by returns? So in 27 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: other words, yes, it's up twenty five percent, But there 28 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: are certain people in certain sectors who are who are laughing, 29 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: aren't they? 30 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: I don't think laughing would be quite the word. But 31 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: certainly some sectors on their land which might well have 32 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: cost more in the beginning than some other land, they 33 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: are getting better returns per hectare. And yes, the gap 34 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: between the pop farmers and the average farmers has increased. 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So is that no one within farming accepted within farming? 36 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: And does anybody do anything about it? Or you can't? 37 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: Yes, now we can, and that's the role of the 38 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: levee bodies like Beef and Lamb Dairy ENZ Foundation for 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: Arable Research. We collect a levee from every kilo or 40 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: product really and invest it back in terms of science 41 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: for the farmers and often work with MPI on that 42 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: and be aside the new science organizations to try and 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: increase productivity for the farmers and run a lot of 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: discussion groups for instance, which say this person is achieving 45 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: this much or this productivity, how is he doing it? 46 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: Or she doing it? And then the explanations start and 47 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: farmers will go back to their own place and think 48 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: what that would work online? And you've got to. 49 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: Want to do it though, don't you. Isn't that the 50 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: same as it's like, you know, people who get out 51 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: there in a job and a productive and into life, 52 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: as as the person who can't be bothered happy on 53 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: the benefit. Is it like that in farming? 54 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: No, I have over four I've been here fifty years, 55 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 2: and I have the number of farmers that I've met 56 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: that are not interested in productivity gains, doing ever better 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: is fingers of one hand. Most of them are highly competitive. 58 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: That's why they're looking over the neighbor's fence all the 59 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: time and they wonder, how did she do that? I 60 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: wanted to look and have my padducts and my orchards 61 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: look as good as that. What do I need to 62 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: do to increase my farm or my orchard or whatever? 63 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: How can I do it? And they are this is 64 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: why we're in New Zealand. We're all innovatives, entrepreneurs and 65 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: trying to do better for our. 66 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: Families, fantastic, Jacquelin Good Inside as always, doctor Jacqueblin Row 67 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: at the Edge and Professor Negro Science at Lincoln University. 68 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 69 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 70 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio