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Speaker 1: The Breakfast show You Can Trust. Andrew Dickens on the

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, doing real estate

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Speaker 1: differently since nineteen seventy three News Talk said Ben.

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Speaker 2: As we'll come wanting to you. It's Monday, the eighth

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Speaker 2: of July. Yes, life is a highway, seven roads of

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Speaker 2: national significance announcement they are going to be told and

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Speaker 2: how's that going to work? And what's it going to cost?

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Speaker 2: And Simeon Brown joins us just after seven on that

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Speaker 2: it's all one in France the general election, rondols on

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Speaker 2: threatening a hung assembly and indecision. We'll have Catherine Field

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Speaker 2: from France. The Extra Poles at the moment show that

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Speaker 2: the the penn Lane Natier Now vote is falling in

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Speaker 2: the second round. More on that later, and Christopher Luxeon

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Speaker 2: is off to Washington today to meet with NATO. Stephen

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Speaker 2: Hoteley on the challenges ahead. Oh, and we'll keep you

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Speaker 2: up today with Lulu's son facing against Emily la Decanu.

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Speaker 2: This is in the round of sixteen. It is once

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Speaker 2: yet all unforced errors by Lulu Southern. The that second

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Speaker 2: set she dropped the serve, but at the moment Emily

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Speaker 2: Radakan is getting a medical time out. It's extended. It's

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Speaker 2: on a leg industry. Remember she came into the game

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Speaker 2: with a wrist injury, so he's still walking wounded and

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Speaker 2: that could benefit our girl. So all that's still to

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Speaker 2: come today eight after six. So I beg I'll keep

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Speaker 2: your nose out of our business. From the Orkland Council

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Speaker 2: on Friday to the Government, as they voted by eighteen

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Speaker 2: and it caused some to wonder whether the Auckland Council

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Speaker 2: were all left loving Wokesters with rocks in their heads. Now,

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Speaker 2: the three who sided with the government were Williamson, Walker

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Speaker 2: and Stuart and they have always been loyal National Party

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Speaker 2: foot soldiers, particularly Marris Williamson. But the government's argument was

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Speaker 2: rejected by a fair number of center right, non rational

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Speaker 2: people like the mayor or, the Deputy Man, Desley and

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Speaker 2: there's a whole heap of reasons they came to that decision,

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Speaker 2: not least of which it's their roads. If central government

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Speaker 2: wants to tell counselors what to do with the roads

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Speaker 2: government might want to help pay for them. The government

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Speaker 2: can do what they want with state highways. But the

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Speaker 2: other big thing is that the government is providing no

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Speaker 2: evidence for the change of policy. So they called the

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Speaker 2: labor policy blanket speed limits, which suggests it affects every

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Speaker 2: speed limit in the land. So I phoned some high

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Speaker 2: up members of the NZTA on Friday and said, is

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Speaker 2: it a blanket speed limit thing? And their reply was no,

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Speaker 2: it's actually a very targeted and specific set of speed

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Speaker 2: limit rules and not a blanket ruling at all. One

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Speaker 2: former board member told me he was on a dozen

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Speaker 2: or so dangerous regional roads that really need cost the

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Speaker 2: repairs and realignments, but they don't have the money, so

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Speaker 2: until then, the cheapest remediation is lowering the speed limit.

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Speaker 2: The other three hundred or so remaining scheduled speed limit

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Speaker 2: reductions were outside schools normally when the schools asked for them,

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Speaker 2: and particularly rural schools outside of town limits that were

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Speaker 2: The schools were also very specific, not a blanket speed

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Speaker 2: of some overreaching nanny states slowing us all down. And

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Speaker 2: that's called politics. Now the question is we're slowing these

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Speaker 2: speed downs reduced productivity? Well, the average CBD speed in

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Speaker 2: Auchard was nineteen k before the changes. After the changes

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Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't care about the speed limit changes.

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Speaker 2: It barely affects behavior who's had a ticket. We don't

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Speaker 2: let alone policing people going thirty five in a thirty zone.

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Speaker 2: And what I do know is that it costs a

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Speaker 2: lot of money from the labor government to put new

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Speaker 2: to take those new signs down and replace them with

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Speaker 2: old new signs. And in a time of austerity, it

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Speaker 2: seems like a bit of a wasteful use of taxpayers

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Speaker 2: money for something that really affects no one but makes

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Speaker 2: for some good talkback arguments. And dare I say it

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Speaker 2: sounds a little bit like virtue signaling. Anyway, Later this morning,

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Speaker 2: Simeon Brown will be joining us. Who's putting all of this,

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Speaker 2: but we'll be talking roads of national significance and tolls

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Your Prime Minister in the UK, and so Ka Stamer

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Speaker 2: is added about telling everyone who will listen there he

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Speaker 2: is there for them.

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Speaker 3: I asked people in Scotland put their trust and faith

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Speaker 3: would deliver for Scotland. And that's why I wanted to

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Speaker 3: stand here today to make good on that promise.

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Speaker 2: Very good. One of the first things he's done is

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Speaker 2: make that Rwanda migrant scheme Denenbury. That's the quote. There

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Speaker 2: is not please suwella Brevman.

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Speaker 4: Years of hard work, acts of Parliament, millions of pounds

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Speaker 4: been spent on a scheme which had him and delivered properly,

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Speaker 4: would have worked.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, no more Richie for the Tories. So Nadem Zahawi,

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Speaker 2: who's the formula Chancellor, has been talking who's next.

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Speaker 5: We have to present a united front to the country.

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Speaker 5: Richie suffered it badly in the campaign because there were

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Speaker 5: sort of voices from his own party coming out against

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Speaker 2: Now the Secretaries of State for Northern Ireland, a fellow

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Speaker 2: called Hillary then is hoping that he will get more

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Speaker 6: The last government signed up to international agreements and then

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Speaker 6: trashed them, trampled all over them. So the European unit,

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Speaker 6: including the Irish government, want to see a UK government

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Speaker 6: that when it signs international agreements, keeps its word.

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Speaker 2: Now let's go to the United States of America, where

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Speaker 2: Democrat Adam Schiff has come out hard in support of

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris for the Democratic ticket.

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Speaker 7: He should be mopping the floor with Donald Trump. Joe

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Speaker 7: Biden's running against a criminal. It should not be even close.

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Speaker 7: And there's only one reason it is close, and that's

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Speaker 7: the president's age.

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Speaker 2: To the Euros and at semi final time this week

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Speaker 2: in the Euros and Gareth Southgate, the England's coach manager,

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Speaker 2: he's stoked to be there.

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Speaker 8: I love the players, I love being in that moment

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Speaker 8: with him. I took this job to try and improve

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Speaker 2: He's stoked to be there. I'm surprised he is still there.

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Speaker 2: He's taking a great team and making it there. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: that's just my opinion. And finally the trials wrapped up

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Speaker 2: for the man who was wanted or waited for the

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Speaker 2: longest time on death row. It's an eighty eight year

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Speaker 2: old Japanese book called iwal Hakamada. He was sentenced to

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Speaker 2: death in nineteen sixty eight for the murder of a

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Speaker 2: family of four. Is a man who loved his work.

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Speaker 2: But he maintained his innocence the whole way through, and

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Speaker 2: his execution was delayed time and time again until new

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Speaker 2: evidence meant a retrial occurred later this earlier this year.

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Speaker 2: That trials now finished, and now Hakkamuander, well, he's still

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Speaker 2: waiting his fate in the judges ruling, and that's going

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Speaker 2: to come in September. Third set. Lulusan one broke Radicanu,

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Speaker 2: the sets, and she is one up in the third set.

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Speaker 2: This is in the final sixteen at Wimbledon. No woman

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Speaker 2: sounds like Radecano has been affected by her injury. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: from France first exit polls, so no party has a majority.

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Speaker 2: So that means the plan from the left to stop

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Speaker 2: the right getting in with a majority seems to have worked.

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Speaker 2: But still no majority means well, a little bit hung,

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Speaker 2: shall we say, as we head into the Olympics at

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Speaker 2: more so we'll keep up to date with that one.

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Speaker 2: Six seventeen is the time.

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Speaker 9: Your mistress, you know.

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Speaker 10: When morning Andrew, Greg, how are you good?

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Speaker 1: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Greg is joining a S I sived have lost my

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Speaker 11: I think I let me help you out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Greg Smith, right, and you're from Devin Funds Management.

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Speaker 11: That's totally right.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good. That's off the top of my head.

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Speaker 2: And you're going to talk about the money, and the

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Speaker 2: first thing we're going to talk about is us jobs.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, the jobs numbers were out on Friday and

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Speaker 10: undred and Nastick both record highs. The healthy number of

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Speaker 10: that's boosted hopes for rate cuts by the federal reserves.

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Speaker 10: So during six thousand jobs at last month, that was

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Speaker 11: From two and seventy two thousand to two eighteen thousand.

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Speaker 10: Aprils was also revised down to one hundred and eight thousand,

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Speaker 10: so we're in about seventy thousand jobs. Their healthcare was

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Speaker 10: also pretty strong, but that number of other key set

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Speaker 10: there declines. Yet another important point there Andrey, was the

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Speaker 10: The overall labor market news is definitely loosening a bit.

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Speaker 10: That's gonna sit well with the Fed market. Implied odds

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Speaker 10: of a September rate cut have increased to seventy seven percent,

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Speaker 10: getting close that scenario of two rate cuts this year,

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Speaker 10: and where the Fed goes of others often.

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Speaker 2: Follow good stuff well, we've got an OCA coming up

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Speaker 2: later this week, so he is hoping. Now big week

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Speaker 2: for Tessa.

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Speaker 10: Elon will be happy, Yeah, he will be so big

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Speaker 10: week for the Tesla bulls, but a painful one for

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Speaker 10: those making bits against the stocks. The stock was higher

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Speaker 10: again on Friday and up twenty seven percent last week,

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Speaker 10: ROAs eight sessions in a row. It's really more than

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Speaker 10: seventy percent from the lows and April, so it's wiped

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Speaker 10: out the losses for the year. It's come on better

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Speaker 10: than expected delivery. The year is that they have been

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Speaker 10: under the partner year. You got rise in competition from China,

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Speaker 10: tests has had to cut prices off and now it's

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Speaker 10: just financing options and like the cyber truck, they've had

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Speaker 10: problems there. But all that was forgotten last week. So

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Speaker 10: he delivered second quarter deliveries of four hundred and forty

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Speaker 10: eight percent from the first quarter, was down four point

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Speaker 10: eight percent from a year earlier. So I'm now going

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Speaker 10: to be looking for those aning support later this month

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Speaker 10: to see how that's affected profits. Mean, while the rallies

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Speaker 10: cost short sellers of Teaser, all those making bets against

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Speaker 10: the stock nearly three and a half billion dollars last week.

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Speaker 10: Me and while Elon his network was increased by around

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Speaker 10: fifteen billion. He had a bit of a poppet those

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Speaker 10: sort of not believing this in the stock, including Bill Gates.

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Speaker 10: He said that once Tarser solves autonomy and has optimist

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Speaker 10: this is their humanoid robot in volume production, anyone holding

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Speaker 10: a short position in the stock will be obliterated.

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Speaker 11: Even Gates, he's seen a bit of a message.

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Speaker 12: Mate?

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Speaker 13: Well, I have a lot of experience that older numbers

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Speaker 14: We've got more experience, I think that's why.

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Speaker 13: But what kind of experience?

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Speaker 14: Well, by definition, over the years, you've gained more experiences,

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Speaker 13: But what kind of experience?

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 13: No one's been able to well, were going around in

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Speaker 14: Good for you batting?

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Speaker 2: But upst youngster ceci great stuff six twenty seven and

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Speaker 2: his name is Sam Carling. Let's watch and see what

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Speaker 2: happens a grocery prices to go it up? Hey, But

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Speaker 2: there's some good news, not as much as they used

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Speaker 2: B All right, we've got some more bad data. Muggage

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Speaker 15: As well.

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Speaker 2: Grocery prices are continuing to rise, the big contributed towards

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Speaker 2: Twenty three to seven West we are shopping for groceries

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Speaker 2: have increased by one point two percent, and Vegetables chair

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Speaker 2: John Murphy joins me, Now, how John, morning, Andrew, what's

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Speaker 16: Well, I'd note the produces at the lower end of

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Speaker 16: for vegetable produces and shows that people can add one

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Speaker 2: So are they cutting their margins to enable them to

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Speaker 16: Oh, certainly vegetable growers are, and I think you said

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you say we've got to produce more vegetables,

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Speaker 16: Yes, yes there has been, but there has been a

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Speaker 2: And what about the labor market for the sector. Are

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Speaker 16: Yeah, look, I think it's a lot better than it

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Speaker 2: Are you feeling confident though? For the growers? You know,

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Speaker 16: Well, look, there's always the prospect of that. And I

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Speaker 2: Sure enough, John, or power to your growing hand and

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Speaker 2: So here's the funny old thing. In a way, there's

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Speaker 2: Breakfast with Andrew.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting TechEd through ninety two ninety two. A small

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Speaker 2: cost does prevail saying where are you watching this tennis?

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Speaker 2: I can't find it on Sky. No, it's on TV

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Speaker 14: No action, and we're trying to get you in to

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Speaker 11: No, she's not.

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Speaker 2: don't know, but whatever, we are five two and we

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Speaker 2: are very close to a bit of history. And it's

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Speaker 2: on TV and Z plus. By the way, exit polls

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Speaker 2: from France, no party has a majority and the farm

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Speaker 2: writers coming third. And we'll have more on that later

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Speaker 2: on too. Now the Prime Minister is leaving for America

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Speaker 2: today and he's going there to walk tight ropes because

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Speaker 2: New Zealand is in a very interesting geopolitical space because

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Speaker 2: we serve two masters and the two masters are wary

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Speaker 2: of each other. Thirty percent of our economy is tied

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Speaker 2: to China. Meanwhile we flirt with a military alliance with

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Speaker 2: the United States, the UK at Australia, and that's called Orcus.

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Speaker 2: So the two different masters, two different fields. And the

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Speaker 2: weekend I had a real estate millionnaire come up to

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Speaker 2: me in the street that happens, and he bowed me up.

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Speaker 2: He said, lux and better be careful with what he

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Speaker 2: says to our American mates this week, because with great flourish,

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Speaker 2: he said, Orcus will screw us. He actually said a

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Speaker 2: word much worse than that. But he said Orcus is bad.

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Speaker 2: And the point he's getting on about is our prize independence,

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Speaker 2: which we have long had, which is now hanging in

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Speaker 2: the balance. Which way should we jump? Should we jump

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Speaker 2: at all? These are good questions. We are economically tied

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Speaker 2: to China, but as we know after they punished Australia,

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Speaker 2: they don't take well to criticism from trading partners, which

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Speaker 2: will then compromise us and hurt us badly. So obviously

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Speaker 2: luxe and to strengthen our economic ties with America, to

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Speaker 2: diversify our income stream and make us this beholden to China.

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Speaker 2: But what will America ask of us? I mean, they

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Speaker 2: want a lot of military stuff. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: military action around the world. But what's going to happen

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Speaker 2: as Biden stumbles and Trump gets it and he advocates isolationism,

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Speaker 2: And then how much should we trust in our American

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Speaker 2: friends if they retreat within their borders, will they come

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Speaker 2: to help us down here? Gosh, there's lots of things

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Speaker 2: to think about. At the end of the day, we

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Speaker 2: are small and subject to the currents of the big players,

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Speaker 2: and so I have no idea what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: But Steve hotly On, Christopher Luxon has been thinking about it,

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Speaker 2: and we'll be training us at seventy.

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Speaker 18: Ten International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 18: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: But to Donald joins us for the sake, Hello Rich, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Hi Andrew.

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Speaker 19: Lots of things on the board.

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Speaker 2: Right absolutely, big week for Biden as well. Will he stay,

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Speaker 2: will he go? Will he jump?

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Speaker 12: Will he not?

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Speaker 19: Those are the questions critical time for him, you know.

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Speaker 19: Right now some of the top House Democrats are holding

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Speaker 19: a zoom meeting to debate how they should deal with

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Speaker 19: the matters and the president's insistence in his network interview

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Speaker 19: that he will not withdraw from the twenty four race,

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Speaker 19: despite escalating concerns about his health. All the policies that

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Speaker 19: you back in Washington here tomorrow following the holiday break

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Speaker 19: for Independence Day. Senator Mark Water also is working to

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Speaker 19: convene a group of Democratic senators this week to discuss

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Speaker 19: what next. So it's coming to a crunch. Seth Malton,

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Speaker 19: a Democratic congressman, says while just five of his party colleagues,

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Speaker 19: five only have gone public urging Biden to step aside

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Speaker 19: from his re election bid. Many many others have concerned,

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Speaker 19: spurred by the polls. In part, the New York Times

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Speaker 19: post debate poll has Trump leading Biden by nine points

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Speaker 19: among registered voters and six points among likely voters. That

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Speaker 19: six point margin is echoed by other surveys.

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Speaker 11: Alden, I don't think it.

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Speaker 20: Helps that the President has just been dismissive of the

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Speaker 20: polls and said he doesn't believe the polls. I mean,

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Speaker 20: maybe the polls are a little bit off, but we're

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Speaker 20: running against the convicted criminal who incited a mad to

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Speaker 20: storm the capitol. I mean this should be easy.

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Speaker 11: Well.

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Speaker 19: Democratic Senator Chris Murphy says Biden needs to do more,

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Speaker 19: including a town hall style appearance, maybe at a full

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Speaker 19: scale press conference. Hasn't done a lot of those. It's

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Speaker 19: merged today that after the debate, the Biden team fed

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Speaker 19: questions were a couple of Wisconsin interviewers. A short time ago,

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Speaker 19: President Biden made a brief stop at a campaign HQ

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Speaker 19: in Pennsylvania, where he is struggling.

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Speaker 2: He said, in part, I'm the whole pro union.

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Speaker 21: Sont in the history of United States America. I make

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Speaker 21: no damn apologies for him, because when they do well,

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Speaker 21: everybody's as well, so anyway, love, I just want to

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Speaker 21: say thank you, thank you, thank you. It's all about

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Speaker 21: touching people, it's all about talking, all about finding what's out.

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Speaker 22: In their mind.

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Speaker 19: So sounding stronger in that appearance still says Malton, says,

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Speaker 19: many of his colleagues say far more needs to be done.

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Speaker 20: So many share of my concerns but just haven't decided

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Speaker 20: to voice them publicly yet. There may be some who say,

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Speaker 20: after the ABC interview, when the President was quite defiant

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Speaker 20: and dismissive of many of the concerns, that look, he's

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Speaker 20: just not going to change his mind, and so it

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Speaker 20: doesn't matter and we shouldn't speak up. Of course, there

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Speaker 20: will be others who say, you know, you got to

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Speaker 20: speak now and try to make a change while there

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Speaker 20: is still time.

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Speaker 11: Well.

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Speaker 19: Joe Biden's Network interview drew mixed assessments, where Biden said

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Speaker 19: things like this to interview George Stephanopoulos.

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Speaker 23: If you are told reliably from your allies, from your

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Speaker 23: friends and supporters in the Democratic Party, in the House

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Speaker 23: and the Senate that they're concerned you're going to lose

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Speaker 23: the House in the Senate if you stay in, what

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Speaker 23: will you do?

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Speaker 9: I'm going to answer that question, it's not going to happen.

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Speaker 19: Well, that's what they are saying. Democrat Mike Quigley was

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Speaker 19: one of the first to call on Biden to withdraw

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Speaker 19: from his reelection bids.

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Speaker 23: It's like talking to a loved one about such a

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Speaker 23: tough situation. How do you tell that person you can't

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Speaker 23: do this anymore?

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Speaker 19: As well, all sorts of accounts are emerging. A review

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Speaker 19: of the White House visitor's log shows that Biden's doctor

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Speaker 19: met with a Parkinson's disease specialist there a movement disordered specialist,

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Speaker 19: doctor Kevin Kannar, seven times they met. The White House

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Speaker 19: denies the President has any such disorder. They also dismiss

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Speaker 19: accounts of Biden apparently freezing in mid action several times recently.

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Speaker 19: It's quote fakes and lies. Last month, he seemed to

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Speaker 19: freeze briefly at a White House event. A week on

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Speaker 19: it was a similar scene at a fundraiser in la

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Speaker 19: We have seen the videos of Biden's stumbling on stairs

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Speaker 19: of Air Force One. They have shortened the staircase. They

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Speaker 19: now have a Secret Service agent posted at the bottom stairs.

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Speaker 19: What to catch him, I don't know. They have also

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Speaker 19: built longer rest periods into the Biden schedule, including on

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Speaker 19: weekends or extended stays at his Delaware place or at

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Speaker 19: Camp David. Meantime, clock is ticking on the campaign front. Also,

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Speaker 19: the Republican Convention starts in just over one week from now, folks,

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Speaker 19: and Trump soon will announce as the VP pick. So

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Speaker 19: events are moving at a rapid pace.

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold from the United States, So thank you for

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Speaker 2: your time. It is now nine minutes to seven, and

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Speaker 2: so we take you to what happened in wim Willdon

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Speaker 2: a short time ago.

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Speaker 9: No, she has it, and now we see what it means.

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Speaker 24: Because Lulusun is loving the same dream that Radakano once did.

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Speaker 24: The Qualifi moves on the Qualifi through to the quarterfinals of.

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Speaker 2: A Grand Slam. That is seven in a row for Lulusun.

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Speaker 2: Can I just read a text, Laura writes Andrew, the

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Speaker 2: you in soon is pronounced the same as the you

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Speaker 2: in Lulu, not the U in Sunshine. Andrew Ordison is right,

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Speaker 2: and I think we all need to get right because

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Speaker 2: this woman is a superstar. It is eight to seven.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on the Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News

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Speaker 1: talks Lulusum.

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Speaker 15: She won.

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Speaker 2: She beat Redacanu, the Queen, the Princess of the UK,

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Speaker 2: and no one seemed even more surprised than Lulusun.

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Speaker 25: They had to fight too the nail against her because

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Speaker 25: she's She's obviously gonna run for every bar and and

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Speaker 25: fight until the end. So I'm just incredible. Really, I

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Speaker 25: don't even have the words right now, but I'm just.

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the outs. It's the fizz on

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Speaker 1: the Mike Husking breakfast on News Talks B.

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Speaker 2: How good was that?

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Speaker 14: How good is this?

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Speaker 2: We need some positive business news. Are we improving the

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Speaker 2: wolf season? The season ended at the end of Dunes,

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Speaker 2: and the analysts have been taking stock of how well

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Speaker 2: we've done over the past year. So we're getting some

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Speaker 2: wool types approaching three year highs. Hurrah. But importantly, the

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Speaker 2: market as a whole has stabled or stabilized after a

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Speaker 2: couple of poor seasons and slides, and a lot of

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Speaker 2: that has come about because we've all got rid of

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Speaker 2: our old wolvestocks and the stores, and so as we

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Speaker 2: come into the new season, supply will not be hampered

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Speaker 2: by old wool sitting there not pulling finger. They're coming

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Speaker 2: a jumper like it should do, and there's good news

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Speaker 2: from overseas markets as well. The equality of our wool

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Speaker 2: is still considered a cut above the rest, and the

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Speaker 2: command is starting to come from a number of other countries.

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Speaker 2: Great news, Love Wall. The demand from China is still abate,

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Speaker 2: subdued as their economy continues to recover, but bring on

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Speaker 2: winter and bring on, bring on carpets. Indias picking up

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Speaker 2: the slack. They're buying more as their growth continues to skyrocket,

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Speaker 2: and there's more demand from Europe and also from the

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Speaker 2: cruise ship industry. They're all looking to buy wool for

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Speaker 2: carpets for their new ships. They're all looking to buy wool,

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Speaker 2: and that's good news for us. We've got some roads

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Speaker 2: of national significance coming, seven of them. Some of them

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Speaker 2: would like to toll them. We'll talk about that next.

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Speaker 1: Demanding the answers from the decision makers. Andrew Dickens on

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Speaker 1: the my casking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, doing real

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Speaker 1: estate differently since nineteen seventy three, News Talk said, b.

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Speaker 2: Yes, good morning to it is the eighth of July.

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Speaker 2: New roads of national significance are coming that be denounced

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Speaker 2: by the ministers. I mean Brown seven are being fast

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Speaker 2: tracked and construction are set to start within the next

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Speaker 2: three years. The projects are Belfast to Pegasus, the Hawk's

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Speaker 2: Bay Expressway State Highway and Cambridge to Pierreri State Highway

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Speaker 2: twenty nine at Tolco, take a ten north link stage

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Speaker 2: two Mill Roads in Auckland and walk with to Wellsford

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Speaker 2: and so Transport Minister Simbim Brown Joycey now, hello Simon.

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Speaker 26: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Will these be told?

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Speaker 26: Well, we've said we will toll all roads where Zintiat

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Speaker 26: recommends they should have a toll. Effectively, tolls are a

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Speaker 26: way to raise revenue to bring infrastructure investment forward. And importantly,

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Speaker 26: people have a choice. They can choose to go on

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Speaker 26: the tolled road which is faster, more efficient and safer,

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Speaker 26: or they can go on the alternative road where they

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Speaker 26: don't have to pay, but it may add a few

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Speaker 26: extra minutes to their time. So ultimately it's about choice,

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Speaker 26: but it's also about raising the revenue to bring that

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Speaker 26: investment forward so we can have the modern, reliable roading

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Speaker 26: infrastructure that New Zealanders need.

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Speaker 2: So you ask the ends of TA, can you please

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Speaker 2: tell them that they decide?

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Speaker 26: But alfinately ministers have to sign off on any tolling recommendation,

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Speaker 26: they do a tolling assessment to determine whether or not

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Speaker 26: it's suitable for that particular road and what the and

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Speaker 26: what it would be. We then sign it off. We're

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Speaker 26: saying where they make a recommendation, the government will sign

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Speaker 26: it off because ultimately we want to bring that infrastructure forward.

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Speaker 26: We want to see it built and constructed quicker. We

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Speaker 26: want to be able to ensure that the New Zealanders

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Speaker 26: and get where they want to go quicker and faster

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Speaker 26: and safer.

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Speaker 11: So if they're going to be told about getting things.

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Speaker 2: Done, so if they're going to be told how much

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Speaker 2: will the toll be, well, that.

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Speaker 26: Would be determined as part of that process and the

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Speaker 26: assessment that goes into it, and there will be a

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Speaker 26: range of variables in terms of you know, how long

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Speaker 26: is the stretch of road, what are what are the

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Speaker 26: impacts in terms of how many people may choose to

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Speaker 26: go on the alternative if you if you increase the toll,

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Speaker 26: So the range of to go into a tolling GUS

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Speaker 26: got a rough guess of them.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't.

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Speaker 26: I don't have any rough guesses on it because ultimately

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Speaker 26: it's an assessment that has to be undertaken. But what

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Speaker 26: I would say is it's all about raising the revenues

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Speaker 26: to be able to build that infrastructure faster so that

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Speaker 26: New Zealander can get where they need to go quicker

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Speaker 26: and safer, and we can have a more productive economy.

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Speaker 12: Around them.

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Speaker 2: At first, taxpayers are still going to have to stump

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Speaker 2: up the money, aren't they going to build it? And

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Speaker 2: then they have to wait for the coffers to be

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Speaker 2: refilled by the tolls.

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Speaker 26: Right, Well, I mean if you look around the rest

681
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Speaker 26: of the world, this is how infrastructure is built. Tolls

682
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Speaker 26: can be used to bring forward infrastructure investment. It's also

683
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Speaker 26: a way to attract private sector investment to actually take

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Speaker 26: that upfront capital risk as well. If you look around

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Speaker 26: the world, that's what's done. You see PPPs which are

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Speaker 26: used where a private sector makes it up for an

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Speaker 26: investment and then it gets that money repaid via a

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Speaker 26: toll over a long period of time.

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Speaker 2: But the tolls are post construction, so you're still going

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Speaker 2: to have to stump up the money to get them

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Speaker 2: built in the first place.

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Speaker 26: Well, that's where a public private partnership can step in

693
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Speaker 26: and bring private sector capital upfront and take that development risk.

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Speaker 27: So these will be PGP covered.

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Speaker 26: While we've said we're up into all types of funding

696
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Speaker 26: and financing arrangements to get infrastructure built in New Zealand,

697
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Speaker 26: the reality is of the country we have an infrastructure deficit.

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Speaker 15: We have had six years where.

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Speaker 26: We've had nothing done and we need to actually makes

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Speaker 26: get things done faster in New Zealand. And so we

701
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Speaker 26: said all options are on the table to get infrastructure

702
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Speaker 26: built faster in New Zealand. That's why we're putting fast

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Speaker 26: track on the table because otherwise these roads would take

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Speaker 26: years to get consented. New Zealand is a sick and

705
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Speaker 26: tired of how long it takes to get anything done

706
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Speaker 26: in New Zealand, and as a government we are we're

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Speaker 26: frustrated about the time it takes that we're breaking through

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Speaker 26: all of those barriers so we can get things done

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Speaker 26: in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Just trying to figure out how much is going to

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Speaker 2: cost us of our cost of living. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: When the tolls stop and the full cost has been recouped,

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Speaker 2: will the tolls continue to remain.

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Speaker 26: Well, that's a that's traditionally how it's been done in

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Speaker 26: some of the tolling roads in New Zealand, such as

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Speaker 26: the Harbor Bridge. If it's a public private partnership, there

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Speaker 26: may be other contractual arrangements as part of that.

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Speaker 1: What are.

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Speaker 2: Oh simeon could.

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Speaker 26: Constructing those roads? And those decisions we made.

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Speaker 2: Then, because if you invested in a new network for

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Speaker 2: the Savior too, you just dropped out briefly there, but

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Speaker 2: there we go. How did you choose these first seven roads,

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Speaker 2: whether economically or politically? Because I know that Wayne Brown

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Speaker 2: said is a road of national significant and say as

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Speaker 2: opposed to national significance if you.

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Speaker 12: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 26: Well, many of these roads have been in the pipeline,

729
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Speaker 26: the planning pipeline for some years. They were all canceled

730
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Speaker 26: or many of them were canceled by the last Labor

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Speaker 26: government because they ultimately wanted to build Auckland Light Fail instead,

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Speaker 26: which they failed to do. These are roads which are

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Speaker 26: part of the main state highway network. Were the high

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Speaker 26: volume roads which are critical to our national supply chains

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Speaker 26: and also unlocking land for houndling and growth. So they're

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Speaker 26: all critically important infrastructure. We campaigned in.

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Speaker 27: Them in the last election.

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Speaker 26: New Zealand has voted for us and we're delivering on

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Speaker 26: what New Zealand is voted for us to deliver them.

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Speaker 2: Goad soth Sabina, thank you so much. That is a

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Speaker 2: local government Minsisissippi and Brown. It is now twelve after.

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Speaker 1: Seven news dogs.

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Speaker 2: That'd be my Minister of Christopher Accident is heading to

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Speaker 2: the United States this week. You'll take part of the

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Speaker 2: NATO summer to meet with members of the US administration.

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Speaker 2: The question is what do we want? What will we

747
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Speaker 2: get out of it? Associate Professor of Politics at International

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Speaker 2: Relations at Orchive University is Stephen Hoe. Hello Stephen, Good

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Speaker 2: morning Andrew. We're not a member of NATO's house. Significance

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Speaker 2: is our invitation to visit well.

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Speaker 28: It is part of a group of four called the

752
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Speaker 28: Indo Pacific Four. It includes Japan, South Korea, Australia and ourselves.

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Speaker 28: So we are guests, as it were, or observers. We're

754
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Speaker 28: not obligated to go to war. We are, however, privileged

755
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Speaker 28: to listen to the deliberations, to meet the top people

756
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Speaker 28: at NATO and to keep well informed about what's happening

757
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Speaker 28: in the European theater.

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Speaker 2: But they're likely to be very nice to us in

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Speaker 2: case they have to ask US to go to war.

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Speaker 28: Well, no, that's our decision. To make an independent foreign

761
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Speaker 28: policy means every government in NATO also makes its own decision.

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Speaker 28: There's no compulsion to go to war, and they have

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Speaker 28: to agree one by one to do whatever they think

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Speaker 28: is appropriate.

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Speaker 2: What is your feeling of what is going to be

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Speaker 2: discussed with the priorities of it. I mean we can

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Speaker 2: name some right off the bat, you know, the South

768
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Speaker 2: China Sea and also of course Ukraine, it's the interest Gaza.

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Speaker 2: What do you think they're going to be talking about.

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Speaker 28: Well, I think you've hit it on the head. All

771
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Speaker 28: of those are important topics. There's a crowded agenda. There's

772
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Speaker 28: a lot of detail work as well, like who's going

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Speaker 28: to contribute, how to coordinate with each other, what about

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Speaker 28: future financing? How much are they going to put into

775
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Speaker 28: future defense for themselves and also for Ukraine and also

776
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Speaker 28: for the Indo Pacific. So the agenda is not set

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Speaker 28: by New Zealand. New Zealand will listen politely and maybe

778
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Speaker 28: could ask a question or two at the margins of

779
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Speaker 28: the discussion. But yeah, all those topics are going to

780
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Speaker 28: be front and center. I don't think CONSO will be

781
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Speaker 28: discussed that's really an issue between the United States and Israel.

782
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Speaker 28: NATO is not directly engaged.

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Speaker 15: All right.

784
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Speaker 2: He's also going to see Apple the company. Now, what

785
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Speaker 2: is a Christopher Luxan hoping to get out of that?

786
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Speaker 11: Do you think?

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Speaker 28: Look investment the Christopher Luxeon is New Zealand's number one salesman.

788
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Speaker 28: Now you just talked to Simeon Brown. He's going to

789
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Speaker 28: have to pay for those roads. And there's a lot

790
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Speaker 28: of other things that New Zealand needs to pay for

791
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Speaker 28: by exports, by investment, by tourism, by security, and Luxeon's

792
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Speaker 28: jobbed and his entourage. Memory, He's got some very high

793
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Speaker 28: powered officials in the United States. Beat and Corey, Ambassador

794
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Speaker 28: of Rosemary Banks, one of the top diplomats. New Zealand

795
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Speaker 28: has to entrack American investment down to New Zealand. Now, remember,

796
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Speaker 28: a lot of American firms are going out of China.

797
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 28: China has become too restrictive, too intrusive, and a lot

798
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 28: of firms are disvesting or pausing and those that maybe

799
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Speaker 28: some of that investment money will come New Zealand's way.

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Speaker 28: Clucks wants to make sure that Apple and its subsidiaries

801
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Speaker 28: and any other company interested is welcome.

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Speaker 2: Stephen Harding, he says, he professor of Politics and International Relations,

803
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Speaker 2: Walking University. Thank you so much for your time. It

804
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Speaker 2: is seven fifteen, Hostey Rakers NEWSB. So the France election

805
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Speaker 2: rumbles on. Not so good a second round for the

806
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Speaker 2: right in these elections, the left have tactically held them out.

807
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Speaker 2: The National Rally, the former front Nacinale projected to finish

808
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Speaker 2: a distant third to new Popular Front. They're very left,

809
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Speaker 2: a macron centrist coalition. So here is Jean Lucmillichamp and

810
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Speaker 2: he said he's ready to be part of a new

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Speaker 2: coalition the president.

812
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Speaker 4: How the President has got the responsibility to call the

813
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Speaker 4: new ask for the new Popular Front two double.

814
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Speaker 12: Can see.

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Speaker 2: And we are ready to do so. Okay, So did

816
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Speaker 2: that change anything? The first extra poles are out in France.

817
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Speaker 2: Correspondent Catherine Field has joined to me. Now Hello Catherine, Hey,

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Speaker 2: good morning Andrew. What do you make of it?

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Speaker 17: Well, it's a political earthquake for France. Everyone had been

820
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Speaker 17: believing the polls that Mahine La Penn and her National

821
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Speaker 17: Rally were going to be the largest block in parliament

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Speaker 17: after tonight, and it now seems that the country really

823
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Speaker 17: did stand up and decided that it didn't want to

824
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Speaker 17: be governed by the far right. It didn't give them

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Speaker 17: the big mandate which they were hoping for, but it's

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Speaker 17: put the whole parliamentary system into a bit of a

827
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Speaker 17: question mark, Andrew, because we now have a parliament that's

828
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Speaker 17: dominated by three blocks, each of the blocks well short

829
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Speaker 17: of an absolute majority for getting any sort of legislation.

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Speaker 2: Through Macronz there for another three years. What are they

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Speaker 2: going to do about the prime minister?

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Speaker 17: Good question, and it really does depend who you ask

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Speaker 17: at the moment. I mean, certainly the Left Alliance, which

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Speaker 17: has got the largest share of the votes and the

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Speaker 17: largest number of seats that does say they are saying,

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Speaker 17: you've got to come to us and ask for us

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Speaker 17: to provide a prime minister. Well, you know that alliance

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Speaker 17: has got four and a bit parties. Two of them

839
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Speaker 17: are of the far left and two of them are

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Speaker 17: more in the sort of center left, the Socialist and

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Speaker 17: the Greens. So they're going to have to decide among

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Speaker 17: them who was going to go forward as a prime minister.

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Speaker 17: And in that we're really going to start seeing a

844
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Speaker 17: lot of horsetrading, Andrew. That's where We're really going to

845
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Speaker 17: see if the socialists, who used to be such a

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Speaker 17: big force in French politics for almost a century, whether

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Speaker 17: they are going to desert that alliance which got them

848
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Speaker 17: seventy seats in Parliament and go running to President Manuel

849
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Speaker 17: Matcron because they think maybe they'll get to be Prime minister,

850
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Speaker 17: maybe they'll have the power back that they had saw

851
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Speaker 17: whittle away from their grasp over the last couple of decades.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of tension in this election. There

853
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Speaker 2: was a lot of security forces on the street, there

854
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Speaker 2: was a lot of threat of violence. And now we've

855
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Speaker 2: got a situation where everyone's a little bit hung and

856
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Speaker 2: we're not sure what's happening next. So what effect will

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Speaker 2: this have going forward? Particularly are the mood around the Olympics.

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Speaker 17: Well, I think if it was just for the time being,

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Speaker 17: to be honest with you, Andrews breathing a sigh of relief,

860
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Speaker 17: because all of the policies that Marine Leapennin and the

861
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Speaker 17: National Rally came up with were all ones that were

862
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Speaker 17: absolutely at dividing the country. There's two tiers of citizenship,

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Speaker 17: Bob really putting more police on it. It was really

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Speaker 17: a tone that people were worried about that was.

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Speaker 11: Going to change.

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Speaker 17: So what's going to happen is I think we're going

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Speaker 17: to see a little bit of a horse trading going on.

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Speaker 13: So happened, but.

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Speaker 17: We're not going to see that huge shift that people

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Speaker 17: feared if the national rally came to power for the Olympics. Well,

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Speaker 17: it's all sort of in the bag. Whose Prime minister

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Speaker 17: doesn't really matter that much because that's going to be

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Speaker 17: the President's show. He will be there as well as

874
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Speaker 17: the Mayor of Paris, and of course her job wasn't

875
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 17: up for grabs in these elections, so she'll be doing

876
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 17: what she can to steal the limelight there, as will

877
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 17: President Emmanuel.

878
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 2: Macrowl Okas Field. I thank you for your time, seven

879
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: twenty one. Meanwhile, what does the current Prime Minister think.

880
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 4: The political position that I represented in this in this campaign,

881
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 4: even though we had three times better results than had

882
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 4: been envisaged, that doesn't mean that it's a majority.

883
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 9: So faithful to.

884
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 4: The Republican traditional I will actually Withsdore tomorrow morning.

885
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 2: Good stuff, and I thank you. It is now seven

886
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: twenty two and this is News Talks NB Breakfast Talks

887
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 2: here seven twenty four. Tex Through Andrew. If the French

888
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: Socialists and the Greens are now considered center left under Macron,

889
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: how radical must the far left parties be in France.

890
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: It's France, monsieur, It's France. Yes, they're pretty crazy, and

891
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: so with the bright Hey, people seem to be assuming

892
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: that I'm against tolls. I just wanted to know how

893
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: much the tolls are going to be, and then how

894
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: much is going to cost you to drive? And if

895
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: there's going to be PPPs, simple question, and now to

896
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: the ferries. The Faery cancelation thing goes on straight. In

897
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: z the private operators of Bluebridge says demand is up

898
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: for their service since the grounding of the Outer Telly,

899
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: and in an interview with business Dees, they want to

900
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: know what's happening with Kiwi Row because they need to

901
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: know what's happening for their business. They need to know

902
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 2: whether perhaps they can pick up the sack and buy

903
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: more boats. They do recock there's a couple of secondhand

904
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: ships around the world that might be suitable for the run,

905
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: which of course we've been told there aren't, but there

906
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: we are. Meanwhile, I feel it, called Brendan Hardy at

907
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: Interest dot Co dot Nz has been looking at various

908
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: opinions from interested parties, and he says, it ain't the

909
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: ferries that's the problem, it's the port. Remember the ferries

910
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: are the ferraris and what we really needed was corollas.

911
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: But a number of articles looked at the cost and

912
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: found that in fact, the ferries are a hell of

913
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: a bargain from Korea. At five hundred and fifty mil

914
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: the cost per ton of these boats is more than

915
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 2: half the cost per ton of land construction in this country.

916
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: And they float. You know, the Koreans really sharpen their

917
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: pencils for us. The plans also show the fairies were

918
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 2: only twenty percent of the cost of the project. It's

919
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: these ports that make up eighty percent. It's the port's

920
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: costs that are madly escalating, just like all construction in

921
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: this country. The port side upgrade escalated in priced to

922
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: two point five billion dollars. That is double the cost

923
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: of the transmission Gully motorway, which is twenty seven k road.

924
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: Why because the project ires said you had to have

925
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: one hundred year resiliency. That meant that the port at

926
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: Kaifaraphara was going to be extended huge amounts of land

927
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: reclamation seventy meter deep piling to make a cope with

928
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 2: a shake. The plans also combined the Blue Bridge Kiwi

929
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: rail operations and all the terminals were gold plated as well.

930
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: And in fact they're suggesting that the wiser course was

931
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 2: to cancel the ports until better times and not to

932
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: cancel the ferries, because no one can find anyone who

933
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: really believes we're going to get a better ferry deal

934
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: than the one we had. But we can sharpen our

935
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: pencils on the ports. It is our six twenty seven

936
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: still to come. Heart services are in crisis. We'll talk

937
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: to the Cardiac Society here on these sorts will be

938
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Speaker 2: Thank you.

939
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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fews. Andrew Dickens on

940
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Speaker 1: the my Cosking Breakfast with al Vita Retirement Communit Life

941
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Speaker 1: Your Way News Tog said.

942
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Speaker 2: Be this it's twenty three to eight, and congratulations to Lulusun,

943
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: who I've now learned how to say the name properly.

944
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: It's not Lulusun, it's Lulu Soon. But there's other things

945
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: I've learned about her, including what her last name is

946
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: and the fact that Soon is a name she identifies

947
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 2: with as opposed to was given and there's a whole

948
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: lot of interesting stuff, including this stuff that that Neiva's

949
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: just revealed about, you know, her home club. I'll talk

950
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 2: more about that a bit later on. It is now

951
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: twenty three to eight.

952
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 22: But again that's.

953
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 11: And madzis GNA.

954
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 28: Here we go again.

955
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: In crisis is the word of the year, is it?

956
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Speaker 13: Not?

957
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: Heart services are now being described as in crisis and

958
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: they need much needed drugs and they need funding. The

959
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: Cardiac Society is calling on Pharmac to cover chronic heart

960
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: failure medicines with their funding boost. The drugs have been

961
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: standard cardiac care in the UK, Australia and Canada, but

962
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: here in New Zealand they're only funded for type two

963
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 2: diabetics who meet certain criteria. This is while cardiovascular disease

964
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: remains our number one cause of mortality. So the chair

965
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: of the New Zealand Cardiac Society, Martin Styles, is joining me.

966
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 11: Good morning to you Martin morning Andrew.

967
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: Good did you feel a little bit left out with

968
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: all the Farmac and the funding news about cancer and

969
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: not hearts?

970
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 27: Well, we as a cardiology community have been watching the

971
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 27: news closely. With all the cancer funding that's been talked

972
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 27: about on the media, and we are delighted to see

973
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 27: that the cancer patients are getting more funding, in fact

974
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 27: even more funding than they were initially promised. However, as

975
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 27: you've already mentioned, cardivascular disease remains the number one killer

976
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 27: of New Zealanders. So we meet the sure we need

977
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 27: to make sure that the funding that's been given to

978
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 27: farmac is distributed equitably across all disease.

979
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 2: And why haven't these drugs been funded before?

980
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 27: Well, that's a good question. I mean, we know that

981
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 27: if a patient with heart failure is given optimal therapy

982
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 27: with drugs, they can extend their period between their diagnosis

983
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 27: and being hospitalized or dying by about eight years, which

984
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 27: is which is a very long time as you can

985
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 27: probably imagine. So we're keen to see these drugs funded.

986
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 27: There's many classes of drugs that could help, but at

987
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 27: the moment, as you point out, you have to have

988
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 27: a really narrow range of things. You have to have

989
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 27: both diabetes and a particular type of heart failure and

990
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,959
Speaker 27: a few other criteria that we have to then write

991
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 27: to the government and ask permission to get funding for it.

992
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: Okay, So what happens if you don't get funding for it.

993
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 27: Well, you can pay for it yourself. It's about one

994
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 27: hundred dollars a month and for some people that's achievable,

995
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 27: but for many people it's not. And I think the

996
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 27: other issue that we're finding in health across New Zealand

997
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 27: is an inequity between those who have money to fund

998
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 27: their own medications or pay for their own surgery and

999
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 27: those who don't. And for instance, if we're looking at

1000
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 27: Mali and Pacific Island patients, if you're under the age

1001
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 27: of fifty and a Mario Pacific Island patient person, you

1002
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 27: are something like five times more likely to get heart

1003
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 27: failure than a parky heart patient. So there's these iniquity

1004
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 27: in our society, which is compounded by the fact that

1005
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 27: these drugs aren't funded.

1006
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: Have you been talking to political parties, because let's be

1007
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: honest about it, the increase in cancer funding came from

1008
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: great lobbying to the National Party to make it part

1009
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 2: of an election campaign. Have you been doing the same, Yeah,

1010
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: well haven't.

1011
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 27: The Cancer Society has been doing a great job of

1012
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 27: that and I think we need to up our game

1013
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 27: perhaps in this regard. Yes, the chair of the New

1014
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 27: Zealand Cadact Network has spoken with David Seamo. I understand

1015
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 27: I don't know the outcome of that meeting, but we

1016
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 27: are pushing hard to get these drugs funded.

1017
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: How much money do you need?

1018
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 27: Well, the issue with healthcare is, I'm sure you're aware,

1019
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 27: is that healthcare has this tendency to soak up as

1020
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 27: much money you give it. But on the other hand,

1021
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 27: if you look at it another way, if you're able

1022
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 27: to treat these patients and prevent their hospitalization, prevent them

1023
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 27: from being unwell, missing work or whatever, then actually you

1024
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 27: reap the economic benefits downstream. So I see it not

1025
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 27: as a cost but as an investment for New Zealand.

1026
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: How can people get in touch with you and help

1027
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: out with the lobbying, Well.

1028
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 27: I would suggest where I'm the chair of the cardect Society,

1029
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 27: so it's an organization of cardiovascular professionals across New Zealand.

1030
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 27: But places like the Heart Foundation be quite good for lobbying.

1031
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 27: People can talk to their own MP people can perhaps

1032
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 27: approach Farmak directly. And I think if you're listening to

1033
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 27: this then you've got heart failure, then maybe that you're

1034
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 27: missing out on a really important prayer of therapy that

1035
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 27: you could lobby and help us get these things funded.

1036
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: Madam Styles, at the chair of the New Zealand CADEK Society,

1037
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time today, have yourself

1038
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: a great morning and there we go it started. You've

1039
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: fund one area and other areas come up, and that's

1040
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: just the way human nature is. It is now eighteen

1041
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: minutes to eight, zaid to me. So Lulusun, she's gone

1042
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 2: and beaten Emma Radicanu, who was the Princess of the UK.

1043
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: Emma came into the match with a bit of an

1044
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: injury on her wrist, but during the match, in the

1045
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 2: third set, she actually went down with a bit of

1046
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: a leg injury as well, so she was the walking wounder.

1047
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: But it doesn't take away from the fact that Lulusun

1048
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 2: from Tiano has taken out a big player, a marquee

1049
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: player and got through to the final eight at Wimbledon,

1050
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 2: which no New Zealand woman has ever done. And I

1051
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: got a text from Graham who said Lulu, who not

1052
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: many in New Zealand had heard of before this tournament,

1053
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: looks like becoming a household name quickly here and so

1054
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: a good time to get some form as well. With

1055
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: the Olympics in two weeks. We should know more about

1056
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: this woman, and yes we should, because when she came

1057
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: bursting onto the scene, I had no idea about her.

1058
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: And then someone said she's from for Judland, and I said,

1059
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 2: where might a peak Milford sound? But I've learned today

1060
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: from Niwa. She's from Tiano and the Tiano Tennis Club

1061
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: are so proud of her. And she spent the first

1062
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 2: seven years of her life in Fjordland before she went

1063
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 2: to Switzerland. Now why don't she go to Switzerland. Her

1064
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: real name is Lulu Ruddovich and her family has Swiss roots,

1065
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 2: so they went back home. But hold on a second,

1066
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: how come she has an American accent? Well, she got

1067
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: a scholarship to the University of Texas, so that's where

1068
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: the accent comes from. But hold on, where has the

1069
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: lulusun Where has the soon come from? I don't know,

1070
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: but that's her choice. She wants to be called Luluson

1071
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: and not Lulu Udovich. And she's from Tiano, and she

1072
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 2: speaks with an American accent, and she is a Welcome

1073
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: to the new New Zealand. Welcome to the New New Zealand,

1074
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 2: And what a good feeling it is. Seventeen to eight.

1075
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 18: The Mike Hoskin Breakfast takes through.

1076
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: Where's Mike from? Darryl Westport? Hello Westport, He's on holiday.

1077
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: Let's call holidays today, Lulusuden. According to John Croatian father,

1078
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: the Chinese mother Sun is her mother's surname. She's a

1079
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: great New Zealander. Speaking of sports, how about that all

1080
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 2: back test day. I'm not really a sports journalist, but

1081
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 2: it's such a story I suppose I should comments. Well,

1082
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 2: look after a very long and fevered debate, and then await,

1083
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: we had Scott Robertson finally as our coach, and so

1084
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: did the sun come out? And did the Angels sing?

1085
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: And where we mireculus see a better team than recent iterations? No,

1086
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Speaker 2: I think we'll say we weren't. It was really tense,

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00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 2: It was really nervy. The English are quite good, aren't

1088
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: they strong? At the breakdown. They're able to run these

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Speaker 2: days too. But we were good too. We were good

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Speaker 2: at the scrum. And Talaya and Sivu Reese are so

1091
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: slippery that I've decided to call them the eel twins.

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00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: They appear to have soap for skin. You just can't

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00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: catch them. There were more than a few mistakes where

1094
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 2: we'd line out throws, aimless kicking and Damian McKenzie completely

1095
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: lost track of time, which was interesting. There was the

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Speaker 2: time on an excuse of rust. But we've had four

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Speaker 2: months in Super Rugby, two weeks of prep for the English.

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Speaker 2: They've had one game against Japan, it's the middle of

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Speaker 2: their summer. They haven't played for a while, so they

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Speaker 2: could have been rusty as well. And there were a

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Speaker 2: few people on the old social media who said, you

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Speaker 2: can't help but think that if Ian Foster was still

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Speaker 2: in charge, everyone would be moaning that the Jungle Drums

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00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: would start there beat again. But poor ov Fozzy had

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00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 2: a very rough ride in his tenure, despite the fact

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00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 2: he took the all Backs to just one point short

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Speaker 2: of the World Cup title, and Scott Hansen was saying

1108
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 2: just that this the other week, and so I think

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00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 2: the whole thing is a reminder that, you know, coaches

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00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: and managers are very very important people, but at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day, it's the twenty three players on

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00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: the pitch that have to run around and throw the

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00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: ball that have to stand up to be counted. This

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00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 2: is a team sport and Razor is very very good

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00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: and a breath of fresh air. But he didn't prove

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00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: to be the messiah. But his breath of fresh air

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00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: was his openness and frankness in the postmatch interview on

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Speaker 2: the field.

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Speaker 27: Have you seen that?

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Speaker 2: I have not heard an all back coach be so

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Speaker 2: open about it for a long time, if ever, and

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Speaker 2: I welcome that.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dicks on the my Casking Breakfast with Alveda Retirement

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Speaker 1: Community News.

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Speaker 2: Talks a guy and save by the way in the

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Speaker 2: commentary Brocks after eight o'clock and we'll talk about Damian

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00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: McKenzie's kicking the need for a timer on the big

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Speaker 2: screen or not. Here's a very good story mega blockbuster filmmaking.

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Speaker 2: James Cameron, White Little Appa Farmer is bringing the bulk

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Speaker 2: of his visual effects work from Hollywood to Wellington. Active

1131
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: recruitment is underway for visual effects grow for avatar sequels.

1132
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: Wetter is so busy, so there is a possibility that

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00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: James Cameron will set up his own separate production operation.

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Speaker 2: So we've got the head of Attraction at Screen Wellington

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Speaker 2: on the phone, Mark Westerby.

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00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 22: Hello, very good morning, Andrew.

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Speaker 28: How good is this?

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Speaker 22: Oh, it's fantastic news for Wellington. Look, first, I just

1139
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 22: wanted to acknowledge the passing of John Mandar of the

1140
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 22: Weekend Two was James Cameron's production partner for twenty seven

1141
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 22: years since Titanic, So that was a huge loss for

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00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 22: the industry. And he was such a lie beautiful man,

1143
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 22: and he contributed a lot to the film industry, including

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Speaker 22: here in New Zealand. So he'll be missing.

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Speaker 2: He will be missing visitor regularly actually, and what sixty

1146
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: three in the Cancer got him? So why would James

1147
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 2: move a team here?

1148
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 22: Well, James has been made no secretive the fact that

1149
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 22: for a while now he likes living in New Zealand

1150
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 22: and that he's going to make all his films here.

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Speaker 22: So you know, we're happy to have him. He You know,

1152
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 22: most production companies or big production companies have their own

1153
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 22: in house THEREFX teams. So this is what he's setting up.

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00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 22: By the looks of it, department.

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00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 2: Has Ian Taylor's proved you can do your effects wherever

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00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: you've got a computer, so he doesn't have to bring

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Speaker 2: the team here.

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Speaker 22: No, you're quite right, he doesn't like in these days

1159
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 22: of remote working, you can have the effects all around

1160
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Speaker 22: the world. So the fact that he's chosen New Zealand

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Speaker 22: and in Wellington in particular, is a good stamp of

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00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 22: approval for the sort of work we do, the level

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Speaker 22: of quality of people that we hire, so you know,

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Speaker 22: that's all good news for us.

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Speaker 2: Do we have the people that can be employed by

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Speaker 2: mister Cameron.

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Speaker 22: Well, we absolutely do. There's a number of people who

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Speaker 22: are not only working in wetter effects and in the effects,

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Speaker 22: but we seem to be tuning out amazing graduates at

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Speaker 22: a high rate of knots from the various schools around

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Speaker 22: and there's some fantastic colleges that are teaching the effects

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Speaker 22: at a very high level.

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Speaker 2: So do you have any idea of his plans? Like

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Speaker 2: where would he base himself? Would he be a Mirram

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Speaker 2: based operation, would he be, you know, a Cardton based operation?

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Speaker 2: Do you know anything like that?

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Speaker 22: Uncertain of exactly where the base would be and the

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Speaker 22: intent for that, but I imagine that we're based in Wellington.

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Speaker 22: It seems to be the most central options.

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Speaker 2: And are they asking Screen Wellington to help?

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Speaker 22: I don't think they need our help, but certainly we've

1182
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 22: been reading the word in terms of the jobs that

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00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 22: are available. They've got a LinkedIn page where are actively

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Speaker 22: recruiting from so we've been sharing that with lots of

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Speaker 22: people who are looking for visual effects work.

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Speaker 2: We've seen, of course, the industry taking a lot of hits,

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Speaker 2: particularly at the television side of the business. How about

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00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: the film side of the business? You know, is Wellington

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Speaker 2: still a successful story?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 22: Look, it's no secret that we've been doing it tough

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00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 22: since the actors and writers strikes last year in LA

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Speaker 22: But since those strikes have broken, it's been quite busy

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Speaker 22: for us. You know, we've had Blumbhouses, Wolfman Rach just recently,

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Speaker 22: we've got Red Rocks TV series that are shooting in Wellington.

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00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 22: Obviously that's a small release recently of the new Lord

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00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 22: of the Rings films coming next year. So and you know,

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Speaker 22: Avatar obviously providing a lot of employment, and not just

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Speaker 22: here in Wellington, but there's there seems to be a

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Speaker 22: good deal of activity right around the country. So that

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Speaker 22: is good for our industry.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good. Mark yester Week, head of Attraction at Screen Wellington,

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Speaker 2: thank you for your time today. And this is News

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Speaker 2: Talks THEBB and it's coming up three minutes to eight.

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Speaker 2: We've got the Commentary Box. B got the Commentary Box

1206
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: very very shortly with Sam and Guy have felt lots

1207
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Speaker 2: of great news around New Zealand sport around the place

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00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: tests came through from I don't know but SAG. Another

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00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: key we on top of sport over the weekend Matt

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00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: Payne and the Supercars Townsville Round, who had a great

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Speaker 2: win by Matt on Sunday. There have been some other wins,

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Speaker 2: most notably the tennis todaysun and so we will be

1213
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Speaker 2: joined by Andrew Savile and Guy them we'll get their

1214
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: thoughts about the test and what we can expect with

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00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: the next test that's coming weekend live on News Talks

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Speaker 2: Hebb and Out of the Garden of Eden the National Stadium,

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00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: Eden Park. I'm picking that the next game will be

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Speaker 2: even better than the first.

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Speaker 29: News is next, Oh easy come hard, then on easy

1220
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 29: come hard, then.

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Speaker 1: The setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

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00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on the mic hosting Breakfast with Jaguar the

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Speaker 1: Art of Performance News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 29: Shoot sprung room.

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Speaker 9: It is no wrong, no wrong, come We're right.

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Speaker 27: There's my name again for an old pass it taste

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00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 27: my time result you see.

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Speaker 9: At sixteen eight, But fifteen did I come only?

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Speaker 30: I will said one way on the Pips started again

1230
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 30: say every posts a winner for.

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Speaker 9: Benny Button Channa Bray.

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Speaker 30: Are an absolute miracle at the moment and England on

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00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 30: into the semi four Thosir Exild, We're an hour into

1234
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Speaker 30: the answer and havington on the cask of going out,

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Speaker 30: England have rescued themselves again.

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Speaker 11: No, she has it and now we see what it means.

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Speaker 24: Because Luluson is living the same dream that Radakano wants.

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Speaker 24: It's the qualifile, moves on the qualifile through it to

1239
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Speaker 24: the quarterfinals of a Bland Slam.

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Speaker 1: The Monday morning commentary box on the Mic Hosking Breakfast,

1241
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Speaker 1: what a.

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Speaker 2: Hell of a weekend of sport. And we're joined on

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Speaker 2: the commentary box now by some hell of a gentlemen

1244
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Speaker 2: in sports, Andrew Saville and also guy he gentlemen. Hello,

1245
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: let's talk about the big story of the moment and

1246
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Speaker 2: that is Lulu Soon. How about that first New Zealand

1247
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: woman ever to get to the top eight at Wimbledon.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, very exciting, very exciting. Look, I think it needs

1249
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 27: to be celebrated for a couple of reasons, not only

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01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 27: because of her New Zealand links obviously, but the fact

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01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 27: she's a qualifier and she's ranked around one twenty one

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01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 27: VIDE in the world. To make it through to the

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Speaker 27: stage is quite remarkable.

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Speaker 15: It's very rare.

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Speaker 27: I think rat Karna, actually the player she beat today,

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01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 27: made it all the way a few years ago. But

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Speaker 27: it's a very rare occurrence and Grand Slams for a

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01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 27: qualified of it to make it through this far. The

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01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 27: thing with Wimbledon though, is that players play so very

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01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 27: raally on grass these days, so Luluson has had the

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Speaker 27: advantage of playing in that qualifying event to get her

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Speaker 27: touch on the grass courts, and that's clearly allowed her

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Speaker 27: to get onto a role as well.

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Speaker 2: This is true, absolutely correct. I mean, we were trying

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Speaker 2: to count the number of matches she's already won in

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Speaker 2: a row at Wimbledon so far, and what is it.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be seven already in a row to

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Speaker 2: get to this point. And I guess guy, what's made

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Speaker 2: it easier and better for her is that she beat

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Speaker 2: the number eight seed in what the second round, which

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Speaker 2: means she's got it slightly what she's had a slightly

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Speaker 2: easier run towards these last rounds.

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Speaker 15: Possibly towards the last round. He's still got to beat

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Speaker 15: the eighth seed, and many people in tennis probably wouldn't

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01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 15: have predicted that. This is a stunning result. I watched

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Speaker 15: that match this morning. Well that's of it anyway, and

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Speaker 15: she was terrific the way she played. She didn't look

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Speaker 15: daunted by playing on center court, probably the most tallowed court,

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Speaker 15: were definitely the most tallowed court in tennis. She didn't

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Speaker 15: look daunted by that. She didn't look daunted by playing

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Speaker 15: in front of a crowd that was no doubt going

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Speaker 15: for Emarata Khanu, and she didn't look daunted by playing

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Speaker 15: Imarata Kanu. She was terrific. It's such a cool result.

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Speaker 15: The emotion that she showed afterwards was so special as well.

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Speaker 15: And there's no reason why she can't go on. I

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01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 15: think she plays Diana Vickis now, who I believe is unseated.

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Speaker 15: She could be able to go and win that, and

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01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 15: then Coco goth is currently trailing as well, down a

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Speaker 15: set and down a break I think in the second

1290
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Speaker 15: set as well, So that could make the run to

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Speaker 15: the final. I'm not saying it's easy, but it could

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01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 15: make it slightly easier. The other thing about this, and

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Speaker 15: I just want to mention this quickly possibly a little

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Speaker 15: bit of karma towards emaad Khano.

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Speaker 11: I'm not.

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Speaker 15: I'm pretty pretty disappointed that she would pull out of

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Speaker 15: the mixed doubles and what was going to be a

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Speaker 15: huge occasion for British tennis, Annie Murray's last ever match

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Speaker 15: and complaining of an injury, a wrist injury that didn't

1300
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 15: seem to trouble her throughout the match. She got some

1301
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 15: treatment on her back at some stage during the match.

1302
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 15: But if you're going to pull out of the doubles,

1303
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 15: I think there needs to be some penalty if you

1304
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 15: then go and play the next match at the singles.

1305
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 15: I thought that was pretty disappointing.

1306
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: It was heartbreaking for Andy. Andy's mum was pretty angry

1307
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: about it as well. But I don't know, did you

1308
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 2: guys see Andy Murray's Sir Andy Murray's let's be honest

1309
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 2: here and let's be correct, Sir Andy Murray's speech on

1310
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: Sender Court with all the great players there. McEnroe was there,

1311
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 2: Federal was there, you know, they were all there and

1312
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 2: the speech was was just remarkable for such a you know,

1313
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 2: a stoic Scotsman. He doesn't like these sorts of situations.

1314
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 2: But he was magnificent, wasn't he sad?

1315
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 27: Yeahs for a lot of us playing for he outchee bugger.

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01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 27: I remember when he came to New Zealand. He was grouchy,

1317
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 27: didn't get on with a lot of people. But I

1318
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 27: think he mellowed near the end of his career as

1319
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 27: he realized all that the injuries were taking your toll

1320
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 27: and it was all coming to an end.

1321
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 15: But yet great speech.

1322
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 27: In an obvious tribute, A good tribute to who, to

1323
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 27: a player who's been been outstanding across his career. The

1324
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 27: only problem with Randy Murray or Sarandy Murray was that

1325
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 27: he played in the same mirror as Nadal and Federer

1326
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 27: and dock of it. So he would have won a

1327
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 27: lot more Grand Slams, of course, guys, but the fact that.

1328
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 2: He got past them three times was remarkable. Now, look,

1329
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 2: I'm going to take an ad break a little bit

1330
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 2: earlier here because we've got a lot to discuss about

1331
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 2: this All Black Test, and we've also got a lot

1332
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: to discuss about the Warriors in the most tremendous game

1333
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 2: of league that I've seen in a long time. So

1334
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: that's coming up next to twelve after.

1335
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: Eight the mic Husking breakfast.

1336
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 2: He'll be at his eight fifteen.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary barks on the mic Husking breakfast.

1338
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: Andrew Satlin, Guy Havelt, Right, we've had a test sixteen fifteen.

1339
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 27: Andrew, just when we get off that, just get off

1340
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 27: to tennis, can we just we probably need to put

1341
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 27: a little bit of context in this. And I know

1342
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 27: you've spoken about lu Lucan's background, but she isn't a

1343
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,479
Speaker 27: product of the New Zealand tennis system. Yes, she was born,

1344
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 27: he has been informative years here, then went to Switzerland

1345
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 27: and was in that European program and then went to

1346
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 27: college in the States. That's why we've got a little

1347
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 27: bit of the old American activity, whereas the Great Ruy

1348
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 27: of Morris and the Great Blinda Corp will very much

1349
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,439
Speaker 27: products of the New Zealand system. But in the corvi

1350
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 27: were doing very well in the late eighties at the

1351
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 27: Aussie Open. But New Zealand tennis that hasn't had much

1352
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 27: to celebrate in the way of singles success in the

1353
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 27: last since Marina Rakovits have tied. Certainly the game will

1354
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 27: take this. I think sh Oney switched her allegiance to

1355
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 27: New Zealand of three or four months ago. But for

1356
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 27: a sport again that doesn't have a huge amount of

1357
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 27: success and singles.

1358
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 2: I think, wait, like this, and she chose New Zealand,

1359
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: she felt that her belonged here, so you know we'll

1360
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 2: take her. And as you know, it's a pity we

1361
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 2: didn't get there fellow from McLean's College to make the

1362
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: same decision, but there we go. So look, we had

1363
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 2: a sixteen to fifteen. Now the headlines tense, nervy, the

1364
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: last fifteen minutes no point scored by New Zealand and

1365
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: Damian forgot how to tell the time?

1366
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 15: Guy?

1367
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 2: What did you make of this thing?

1368
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 15: It wasn't a beautiful Test match, but it was a

1369
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 15: very good Test match. It was an enjoyable watch. It

1370
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 15: was close. I thought the All Blacks were pretty good

1371
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 15: against an English side that I thought was probably better

1372
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 15: than I was anticipating. I didn't think the All Blacks

1373
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 15: were too rusty, like we tend to see in the

1374
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 15: first Test of a year, but they made a very

1375
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 15: good opposition and they stood up to that challenge. I

1376
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 15: thought Stephen Petefetter was excellent at fallback. I was someone

1377
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 15: who was questioning that selection before the match. But man,

1378
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 15: he played terrifically and overall I thought they played well.

1379
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 15: The other thing that I just say about this quickly

1380
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 15: before Sam will get into it a bit more because

1381
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 15: he was there, But that postmatch interview from Scott Robertson

1382
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 15: is one of the best rugby interviews I've seen for

1383
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 15: a while. So often coaches never go into anything in

1384
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 15: those interviews, never talk tactics anything like that. He was

1385
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 15: an open book and I tell you what, it was

1386
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 15: bloody refreshing.

1387
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 2: I thoroughly enjoyed that, absolutely, But he was telling that.

1388
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 2: He was telling what he's going to coach over the

1389
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: next week. So you could argue that that's the wrong

1390
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: thing to say, But can I join in with you

1391
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: and say, yes, parapet are amazing tale and Rees, I'm

1392
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 2: now called them the eel Twins. You just can't catch

1393
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 2: them there as slippy as well. Well, what do you

1394
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: make of the whole thing, Andrew? I mean, really, the

1395
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: Scott Robinson influence is really going to come in over

1396
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 2: this week because he's had them for a while and

1397
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 2: he's had a match and he knows what to do next.

1398
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 27: I think you've got to take in the consideration. Several

1399
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 27: points here that the coaching team USA have been appointed

1400
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 27: over a year ago, but Dow only had the hands

1401
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 27: on the players for ten days.

1402
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 5: It was a.

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01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 27: Typical first Test All Blacks performance whoever's been coaching in

1404
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,919
Speaker 27: the last ten to twenty years. Traditionally the first test

1405
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 27: the season is clunky. This was clunky. I think it

1406
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 27: was a huge wake up call and I am for

1407
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 27: the coach as a wake up call for the players

1408
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 27: who've been there, done that, that this was a true

1409
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 27: test match, very different super rugby where things a little

1410
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 27: bit more open. The English defense was outstanding. Did the

1411
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 27: English play over all? Their ball running I think might

1412
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 27: have surprised a few people trying to play a new

1413
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 27: style of rugby. So I thought the English were very

1414
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 27: very good. I think the All Blacks looked good in

1415
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 27: large patches. If they had have taken a couple more

1416
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 27: line nut throws, if their body positioning or their workover

1417
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 27: the ball had have been a bit stronger, which don't

1418
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 27: fairly work on this week, I think they would have

1419
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 27: won by more and a couple of those chances that

1420
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 27: have stuck early on. I think the All Blacks could

1421
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 27: have won by a fear margin. The referee, I don't

1422
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 27: think had a very good game. The English team skirted

1423
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 27: the off side line. Sitting in the grands down on

1424
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 27: Saturday night, you get a better picture than TV. The

1425
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 27: English were offside a fair chunk of the night. He

1426
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 27: let a lot of play go at the breakdown where

1427
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 27: I think he possibly could have blown up. But would

1428
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 27: you rather see a game with fewer penalties?

1429
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 28: Yes, there were no.

1430
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 27: M Damien McKenzie's goalkick. I've gone through that game and

1431
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 27: his goalkick after halftime took a minute ten, So why

1432
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 27: didn't the referee blow that up? At the end of

1433
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 27: the game where he clearly thought McKenzie was trying to

1434
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 27: run the clock down on exactly sixty seconds, the referee

1435
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 27: blew the kick off, whereas previously in the game it

1436
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 27: took a minute ten or around a minute ten for

1437
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 27: McKenzie to kick the goal. You've got to have consistency

1438
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 27: around this rule. And yes, you need a bloody shot

1439
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 27: clock in the ground to the goal kick in those

1440
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 27: windows to kick at Wimbledon.

1441
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 2: At Wimbledon, after all, hey we're running out of time.

1442
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: We've got to talk about the Warriors. That was one

1443
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 2: hell of a game.

1444
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 29: Of league.

1445
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,799
Speaker 2: That was a tough thing. We lost all our outside

1446
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 2: backs and our fullbacks, and yet we still almost managed it.

1447
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 2: We could have got it the guy. We could have

1448
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: got it.

1449
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 15: The best game of rugby league I've seen for some time.

1450
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 15: That was a terrific just a tremendous Warrior's performance, and

1451
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 15: I felt so sorry for them that they didn't win.

1452
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 15: Speaking of officials, that's a disgrace how they did not

1453
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 15: call a penalty on Salmon, the Bulldogs forward for that

1454
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 15: late hat that was pretty much right out in front

1455
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 15: of the six, would have given the Warriors an easy

1456
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 15: two points and would have won them the game. Then

1457
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 15: he goes and gets banned for well at least two weeks,

1458
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 15: maybe three, and nothing's done about it. I mean, that's pathetic.

1459
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 15: It's not the on field referee that I'm blaming here.

1460
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 15: When the TMO has the chance to watch replays and

1461
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 15: come up with a decision and still get it so

1462
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 15: horribly wrong, that's appalling. And all that will happen is

1463
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 15: that he might get dropped for a week. They might

1464
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 15: say sorry, but the Warriors don't get what is a

1465
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 15: very very crucial to it.

1466
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 2: When everybody saw it, everybody saw a guy. All the

1467
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 2: players saw it. They were actually pointing up towards the

1468
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 2: screen they go, yeah, look it's head on head so

1469
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 2: much so that that fellow's broken his jaw and you're

1470
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 2: you're not supposed to do that.

1471
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's pathetic. It was a terrific warrior's performance, though,

1472
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 15: and I think that's you know, that's probably the most

1473
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 15: disheartening thing for them is that they played so bloody

1474
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 15: well under such huge restriction in terms of injuries, and

1475
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 15: they just couldn't quite get it done. Point to them though,

1476
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 15: that is an issue.

1477
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't like it. It just becomes a kick.

1478
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 2: But guys that we've run out of time, and thank

1479
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 2: you so much. Bring on this test this weekend. Andrew

1480
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 2: Saville and guy who felt it is the commentary box.

1481
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 2: It's eight twenty one.

1482
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on them my costing breakfasts with Jaguar use

1483
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: twice EVV.

1484
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 2: This also be boy that texifying in about the rugby.

1485
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: But that's what Jason and Darcy are here for. So

1486
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 2: they're here later today. So the big headlines on Saturday

1487
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: morning after the British election were all in bold type

1488
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: where they not labor landslide, the worst Tory defeat in history,

1489
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 2: collapse everywhere. The Dems revived best result for third party

1490
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 2: since nineteen twenty three. Labor dominant in Scotland, so yes,

1491
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 2: the Labor Party in the UK will be dominant in

1492
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 2: the next parliament. Starmer will be the most powerful prime

1493
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 2: minister since Blair. The vote was distributed right across the country.

1494
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 2: Labour is the biggest party in England, Scotland and Wales.

1495
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 2: Which is the trick to win an FPP elections. I

1496
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 2: forgot about that. It's fun to have an FPP and

1497
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: figure out you've got to get your votes everywhere. Four

1498
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 2: of the five Tory prime ministers of the last fourteen

1499
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 2: years got lost Whitney, Maide and head ax Bridge, Southwest Norfolk.

1500
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 2: The Conservatives have never been so marginal. The Conservatives have

1501
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 2: never been more unimportant to British politics as they are

1502
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 2: right now. It's a result that shouldn't have the New

1503
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: Zealand Labor Party thinking oh, we might have a chance,

1504
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 2: but not so fast. The it chippy Labor barely put

1505
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 2: on any vote share at all. It went up by

1506
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 2: one to two percent from lefty old Jeremy Corbyn back

1507
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, they didn't get new voters. No, this

1508
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: is just a story about a Conservative collapse. And this

1509
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 2: is the story of punishment for incompetence. And that's the

1510
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: same story that wrecked the last Labor League government of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. They got punished for incompetence. But look, it's

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01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 2: also wanting to conservatives like the National Party, because you know,

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01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,440
Speaker 2: just because you're the center right, it does not automatically

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01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: mean you're the best stewards of the economy. The Conservative

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01:12:56,240 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 2: Party and Ingram proved that the Servative Party's combination of

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01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: austerity and tax cuts at the wrong time and incompetence

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01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: during COVID and cronyism wrecked any support they had, So

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01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 2: warnings for all p s. By the way, Posy Parker,

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01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 2: remember Posy, she's still for election. She got one hundred

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01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 2: and ninety six votes in her electorate. You'd think she'd

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01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,560
Speaker 2: probably get a better result than he's in it, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we'll take the news and sport in just

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Speaker 2: a few moments time. Steve Price is on the way

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Speaker 2: as we talk Australia here on News Talks here b.

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Speaker 9: Can feeling along, feeling it could be some be some some.

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Speaker 11: You get the fattest cow.

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01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 5: He's fast enough so we can fly away, steal and

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01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:52,799
Speaker 5: to make a decision.

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01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 18: Leading a living.

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Speaker 24: Died this way.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast show you can thru Us Andrew Dickens on

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01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 1: the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real

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01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: estate differently since nineteen seventy three. News Talk said, b

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01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: it is.

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01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 2: Just outside and Kerry Wooden was preparing for a show

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01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 2: after nine o'clock this morning. We will be talking at

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01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: road tolls because of course seven roads of national significance

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01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 2: have been announced by the minister. Same and Brown say,

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Speaker 2: road tolls.

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Speaker 14: You mean yes on the roads? Actually not dead people.

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Speaker 18: That's right.

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Speaker 2: I went out there and said what are you talking about?

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01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 2: And they said road tolls and I went, why have

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01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 2: we got more dead people? And said, no, tolling on roads.

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Speaker 9: Confusing.

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Speaker 2: It is confusing. What is also confusing is I asked

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01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 2: Simeon Brown a number of times, so you're going to

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01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 2: have tolls on the roads and he said, well, no,

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01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 2: we've got to ask INSI ta who, they make a

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01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 2: recommendation and then the minister decides. But you are the minister,

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01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 2: so we're going to have tolls on the road. So

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01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 2: we ran around on that and then I said, and

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01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 2: how much is it going to be? Because this is

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01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 2: all about the cost of living and he said, well,

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01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 2: we can't figure that one out. But who said there's

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Speaker 2: going to be tolls? And then there was going to

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01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 2: be PPP whether.

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Speaker 14: Andrew, this is a kick ass fast track government we're

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01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 14: dealing with here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and all good, and then I get it. Then

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Speaker 2: I get this letter from someone who says, I've got

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Speaker 2: terrible roads and motorways, but I'm going to get a

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01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 2: new one. But however, everyone with good roads and motorways

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01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,600
Speaker 2: have not paid a toll. But I'm going to be

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01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 2: doubly penalized. I haven't had a decent road, and now

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01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm getting a decent road, I have to pay a

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Speaker 2: toll for it because it's user pays in the area.

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01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 2: That's just not fair. So there's a lot of talk back.

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01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 11: To be had.

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01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 2: And it's after nine o'clock today with Kerry would have

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Speaker 2: here on news Talks at b It's twenty two.

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Speaker 18: To nine international correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace

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01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 18: of Mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Stephen Price, good morning.

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01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 12: Good Andrew, You need to take out a bank loan

1576
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 12: to drive around Sydney on toll roads. Speaking a toll roads,

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01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 12: you can go nowhere without something beeping in your car

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01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 12: and taking money out of your bank account.

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01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 2: I mentioned this earlier, that they ping, don't They say

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01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 2: your ping, and you go, oh, there's some more money,

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01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 2: ping and there's some more money. You turn the ping off.

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01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 12: Well, you can have no tag and pay a fine.

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01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 12: That's the only way I can turn the ping off.

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01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 12: But look, the road network is unbelievably good, but it's

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01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 12: unbelievably expensive. So if you want to go around Sydney

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01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 12: on say them seven and avoid going through the CBD.

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01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 12: If you go north south to south north, it's going

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01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 12: to cost you somewhere. If you're a truck, it's like

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01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 12: fifty dollars, if you're a car it's probably around fourteen

1590
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 12: or twenty dollars. So they're great roads, but they're expensive.

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01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 15: All right.

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01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 2: We have a new poll out dividing the Australia state

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01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 2: by state. Who's in front?

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01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 12: Yeah News poll out in Australia today on the two

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01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 12: party preferred, So that's the Coalition versus labor with all

1596
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 12: the preferences Labors in front fifty one forty nine, so

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01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 12: they've crept ahead again, which wouldn't make Peter Dutton feel

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01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 12: particularly good. But when you go state by state, this

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01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 12: is where the elections in Australia are won. You've got

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01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 12: to pick up individual seats. Peter Dutton's got his nose

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01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,759
Speaker 12: in front in Queensland and in New South Wales. Victoria

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01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 12: is very much a red state, so labor clearly in

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01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 12: front in Victoria, and in South Australia. It's lineball in WA.

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01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 12: But one of the interesting aspects of this latest News

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01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 12: poll is eighteen to thirty four year olds Andrew have

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01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 12: drifted off to the Greens. Now, this often happens in

1607
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 12: a lead up to an election. Does it hold during

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01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 12: the election. Well, the Greens vote at the moment's up

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01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 12: something like twenty percent, so there is a lot of

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01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 12: young people who are saying, right, we're going to vote

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01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 12: Green in this election. I can't quite understand that. I mean,

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01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 12: the Greens are no longer an environment party. They are

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01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 12: a party to a bunch of agitators. But maybe the

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01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 12: younger demographic are very pro Palestine and they've ticked the

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01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 12: Green box in this newspot. We'll just have to see

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01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:45,560
Speaker 12: how long that lasts for.

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01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,759
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what has Palestine got to do with the environment.

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01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 12: Nothing, but that's the green modern day Green Party in Australia.

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01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 15: That's exactly what they are, all right, Okay.

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01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,799
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Malcolm Turnbull has been as Turnbule unloading on dozen.

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Speaker 12: As on the TV program that I appear on tonight,

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01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 12: The Project. Last night he went on there and he

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01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 12: was asked what he thought of Peter Dutton's chances of

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01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 12: becoming Prime minister, and Martham Turnbull said, I think this

1625
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 12: is a direct quote Sandrew, by the way, I think

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01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 12: that's something we should contemplate with dread. When asked why,

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01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 12: he said, well, he's a thug. Peter's got one tune

1628
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 12: that he plays. It's been all his political life, and

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01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 12: that his division and animosity generally aimed at migrants. I

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01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 12: couldn't think of anyone this is Martholm Turnbull less suited

1631
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 12: to be Prime minister of a multicultural society like Astraga.

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01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 12: I'm not pulling my punches. It's important question and I've

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01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 12: given you an honest answer. He doesn't like him, apparently,

1634
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 12: no very good.

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Speaker 2: You were talking before about the kids going for the Greens.

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01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 2: There's also just a surge of youth crime that's happening

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01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 2: in New Zealand as well, and we've got all sorts

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01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 2: of ideas to how to deal with that. Now you've

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01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,759
Speaker 2: got an emergency meeting about that exect issue in Melbourne.

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01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, it'll happened on Wednesday. The Premier has been on holidays.

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01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 12: Gets back today. Last Friday we had a teenage boy

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01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 12: who was bailed. Now a lot of the questions here

1643
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 12: from normal folk are why are these kids getting out

1644
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 12: on bail. He was bailed after being charged over the

1645
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 12: hit and run death of a twenty eight year old

1646
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 12: called will Taylor. The teenager was charged with culpable and

1647
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 12: dangerous driving causing death, unlicensed driving, theft of a motor vehicle,

1648
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 12: failing to stop and render assistance, and he was given

1649
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:34,799
Speaker 12: bail despite the fact that he had already been charged

1650
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 12: previously and was already out on bail. Now the Attorney

1651
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 12: General and the Police Minister and the Premier will sit

1652
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 12: down with legal experts and youth workers this week to

1653
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 12: try and work out what's happening here. Well, I can

1654
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 12: tell them what's happening is they've got a bunch of

1655
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 12: magistrates who operate in the Victorian courts who were very

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01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 12: soft on youngsters. Now, when I'm talking youngsters, part of

1657
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 12: this uth crime crisis that we have, I'm not sure

1658
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 12: about you, Andrew, but we've seen kids as young as

1659
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 12: in eleven and twelve being involved in stealing cars, filming

1660
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 12: themselves driving at ridiculous speeds dangerously on the roads just

1661
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 12: to impress their mates on social media. And that's happening

1662
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 12: night after night after night, and it is causing major accidents,

1663
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 12: major problems for the police, and someone's got to do

1664
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 12: something about it. We don't want to lock up ten

1665
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 12: year olds if we're going to avoid it, but they

1666
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 12: keep getting let out time after time after time, and

1667
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 12: they're public are not ready.

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01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 2: And the parents are not there, and we have exact same. Absolutely,

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01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 2: we're starting military academies perhaps to put to give the

1670
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 2: kids some parentings that they've never had.

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01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, that's never going to happen in a state

1672
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 12: run by the Labor Party in Victoria. But something's got

1673
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 12: to be done, and the magistrates have got to have

1674
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 12: someone's going to have a chat to the magistrates as

1675
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 12: they come on. Enough's enough, all.

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01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 2: Right, good stuff, And I thank you so much. That

1677
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 2: is Steve Price out of Australia. This says Newstalk ZB.

1678
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 2: It is seventeen minutes to night and I've got some

1679
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: rock and roll news for you coming up after the

1680
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 2: break the make Hosking Breakfast as I Madrew Dickinson and

1681
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 2: Mike Hoski. Mik's taking a holiday. It is the school holidays,

1682
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 2: so well, never you get it's thirteen to nine.

1683
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 25: Love your Eyes, Hot Ho Running Feet.

1684
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 2: Surpri If you know your New Zealand rock and roll,

1685
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 2: you know this band's from Glen Dallen and One Sacred Heart,

1686
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 2: just like Spread Ends. It's The Dudes with lead singer

1687
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 2: Peter Urich. And if you love the Dudes, who were

1688
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:39,719
Speaker 2: formed in seventy six, you'll know that they're not performing anymore.

1689
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 2: You might have gone to their final performance at Orkin

1690
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 2: Spark Arena in December of twenty twenty, thinking well that's that.

1691
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 2: Then it was called the biggest pub gig in the world,

1692
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 2: had Hamm and Gamble at it. It was fantastic. But

1693
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 2: the Dudes have just announced them reuniting for one night,

1694
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 2: only half years on after what they thought was going

1695
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 2: to be the last Giggets and r eighteen giggets at

1696
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 2: the power station in Auckland. It's on August of twenty fourth.

1697
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 2: I don't believe that it is a tour, so it's

1698
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 2: just an Auckland only thing. But here's the other thing.

1699
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 2: Sir Dave Dobbin will not be part of the gig.

1700
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: He's given the lineup his blessing, but he's not going

1701
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 2: to be playing. So he's replaced by a fairly called

1702
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 2: Brett Adams. If you know your stuff about rock and roll. No,

1703
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 2: he's a great guitarist and he will join Peter Urch

1704
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 2: and Bruce Handling, and there's White and Ricky Morris who's

1705
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: part of the band now and playing all these classics.

1706
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,520
Speaker 2: On August twenty fourth. Did you say tickets going sound tomorrow.

1707
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 9: Today?

1708
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 2: Tickets go on sound today and we may be talking

1709
01:22:43,920 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 2: to Pete later. Such a good bands, only two albums

1710
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 2: and just class from day one The Dudes August twenty

1711
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 2: four Tickets on sale today. By the way, it's a

1712
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 2: year since Elton John wrapped up his farewell tour with

1713
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 2: a show in Stockholm. It's a year since that he

1714
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 2: paid to six million fans in twenty two countries. He

1715
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 2: only paid half a gig for me because then he

1716
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 2: got the walking pneumonia and the boogiey wigging flu or whatever.

1717
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:24,560
Speaker 14: We don't like to talk about that though, do we.

1718
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 2: No, we do not, no, not at all. You may

1719
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 2: remember he also flooded Auckland's in his last gig too.

1720
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 2: You know, he was not having a good time in Auckland,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand anyway. When he finished, he played to six

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Speaker 2: million fans twenty two countries, set the mark for the

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Speaker 2: highest grossing tour at over nine hundred million dollars, and

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Speaker 2: he thought, look at me, aren't that good? And then

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Speaker 2: wouldn't you know it just so that Taylor Swift comes

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Speaker 2: and blows him right away. It is eleven to nine.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dicks Solumn my Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate

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Speaker 1: News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, it's a lulusun spent the first seven years of

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Speaker 2: her life in Tiana, Fiordland and has gone on to

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Speaker 2: the woman and has done so well now into the

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Speaker 2: final eight. Well done. So that's a big story of

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Speaker 2: the day. The other big story of the day is

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Speaker 2: about Liam Lawson, our Formula one racer who's doing a

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Speaker 2: red Bull test drive next week, is going to happen

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Speaker 2: on Monday, Well that's today. That means it's tonight. He's

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Speaker 2: going to get behind the wheel of a Red Bull

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Speaker 2: RB twenty car and he's going to get two hundred

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Speaker 2: kilometers just to thrash around the course. It's about thirty

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Speaker 2: four laps. It's a six k course, so it's about

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Speaker 2: thirty four k. Now, the notion of the drive is

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Speaker 2: it's being used for promotional purposes. They want to film

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Speaker 2: the car going round, so they'll get Liam to drive

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Speaker 2: it to keep his keep his hand. But back in

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Speaker 2: mid twenty twenty three, Red Bull did a very similar

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Speaker 2: thing with a big old test drive that they got

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Speaker 2: Daniel Leciado to actually drive in and wouldn't you know it,

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Speaker 2: at the end of that they said, actually, Daniel, you're in.

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Speaker 2: Dutchman Nick devrees you're out, and away we went. And

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Speaker 2: now everyone's going, could this be happening to Liam Lawson tonight?

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be amazing? And would it be for Lokiado

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Speaker 2: or would it be for Perez. It's going to be

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Speaker 2: a big night at seven to nine trending.

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Speaker 1: Now with chemist Well's keeping Kiwi's healthy all year.

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Speaker 2: Round, we're going to keep at Silverstone, the UK Grand

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Speaker 2: Prix and the UK were very happy with the Formula One.

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Speaker 2: Lewis Hamilton won his record extending ninth title at Silverstone.

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Speaker 2: Lando Norris made the podium as well, so that was

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Speaker 2: one and three for the Brits. They actually qualified one,

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Speaker 2: two and three because George Russell was up there, so

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Speaker 2: it could have been better, but still one and three

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Speaker 2: is pretty good. And they also had the anthem performance

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Speaker 2: from Hannah Waddingham.

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Speaker 9: So how was that, Let's say, such.

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Speaker 2: A good anthem? You know, short, sweet, sharp, you all

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Speaker 2: know the tunes, you all know the words that we're

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Speaker 2: still getting used to saying king instead of queen. But

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Speaker 2: the problem with it is you can get screechy on

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Speaker 2: the big notes, you can really screech, and she didn't

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Speaker 2: do that. She had a very mellow tone and she

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Speaker 2: hit the high notes without seemingly any struggles.

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Speaker 14: She seem to spend a lot of your time just

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Speaker 14: popping up in places and singing Hannah wanting him. Yeah,

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Speaker 14: apart from being the bad guy in the Full Guy recently. Yeah, okay, well,

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Speaker 14: but I mean the last if one anthem that I

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Speaker 14: can think of that was particularly memorable was Marc Anthony

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Speaker 14: at Miami. Can you see so I'd probably take Hannah

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Speaker 14: over her.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, okay, there's a drama.

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Speaker 15: Queen Lear.

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Speaker 14: As Mike would say, he's no Chrystal. Okay, and you

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Speaker 14: remember that guy I got into trouble at the State

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Speaker 14: of Original.

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Speaker 29: Strill.

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Speaker 2: I quite like syncopated syncopare good thing. But this isn't

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Speaker 2: a jazz concert. This is this is national unity.

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Speaker 29: Well though time, I quite.

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Speaker 2: Like the anthem at the Backs game over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: which was a young youngster and who did any very young?

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Speaker 27: No you didn't like it?

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Speaker 2: No, no, okay, Producer Sam didn't like it. I thought

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Speaker 2: it'd showed, you know, the promise of youth, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: all those things that you left behind, Sam, Karen.

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Speaker 14: Most people generally agreed though that Whitney takes my eyes.

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Speaker 2: Whitney is Whitney.

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Speaker 31: Whitney is Whitney, beautiful, magnificent, just a choice of.

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Speaker 2: Me, and that's a problem.

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Speaker 28: Hi.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Sam and Glenn and set up, and I'm

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Speaker 2: back again tomorrow. I'm Andrew Dickens Kerry Snacks.

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