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Speaker 1: Seems to me that Penny Henad's shenanigans in the by

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Speaker 1: election right now is exactly the kind of thing that

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Speaker 1: Labour has to knock on the head Quicksmart if they

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Speaker 1: want to be in the game at the election next year. Now,

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Speaker 1: as we were discussing earlier, even though Carmel Sepaloni has

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Speaker 1: told Penny off for saying that he wants to repeal

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Speaker 1: the gang patch ban, he is not backing down, right.

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Speaker 1: He said it on Wednesday, they told him on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and today he's not backing down. He's repeated it because

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Speaker 1: he says it's his personal view if not the Labor parties,

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Speaker 1: and he has far no experience. Now why he's actually

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Speaker 1: doing this, in my opinion, is because the Marti Party

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Speaker 1: is doing it. That's the real reason. Because if you

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Speaker 1: have a look at what actually happened on Wednesday night

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Speaker 1: in that by election candidate's meeting, it was the Maori

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Speaker 1: Party candidate or any kaipitter who first answered the question.

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Speaker 1: The question was will you repeal the ban? She said yes,

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Speaker 1: and after she said yes, Pennie Henade then said yes too. Now,

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Speaker 1: maybe he does truly believe that it is the right

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Speaker 1: thing to do. But as I told you, it makes

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Speaker 1: no sense as a political calculation. Why would you chase

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Speaker 1: the vote of ten thousand Gang members if doing that

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Speaker 1: means that you lose the votes of I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe one hundred thousand normal Kiwis who think the band

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Speaker 1: is a good idea. The only answer to that question

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Speaker 1: is because you actually don't care about the one hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand votes. You're not trying to help the Labor Party

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Speaker 1: when you're just trying to win your electorate seat in

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Speaker 1: one of the Marii electrics, and you will say whatever

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Speaker 1: it takes to match the Mahori Party. Now, Labour needs

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Speaker 1: to sort the stuff out before the next election. If

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Speaker 1: Penny or other candidates, or Willie Jackson, or even the

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Speaker 1: entire Labor Party keeps chasing the Maori Party down, the

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Speaker 1: nutty Radical Roll wrote, they will lose Middle New Zealand,

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Speaker 1: just like they did when Jacinda was being told what

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Speaker 1: to do by Willia Nanaya. If I was giving them advice,

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Speaker 1: it would be to leave the nutty stuff to the

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Speaker 1: Mary Party and go to the center themselves. Again, maybe

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Speaker 1: it means MP's like Penny Henaa will lose their seats,

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Speaker 1: but that may be the sacrifice you have to make

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Speaker 1: in order to win the election. For more from Heather

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