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Speaker 2: as well, tasking right, We're into it, Monday morning, seven

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Speaker 2: past six. I think I'm comfortable enough to say, you know,

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Speaker 2: I was right on Elon Musk coming for years on

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Speaker 2: this program. If you're a regular, well before the Trump

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Speaker 2: experiment was ever thought of, I suggested buying a Tesla

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Speaker 2: wasn't the smartest idea, mainly because the bloke running it

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Speaker 2: was all mad, and mad people don't really hold focus.

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Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with being mad, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 2: because not far behind it often luks genius, and there

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Speaker 2: is little doubt that Musk has genius elements to his makeup.

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Speaker 2: Stylink alone is worth praise and thanks but at the start,

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Speaker 2: the Tesla had the field to itself, if you remember.

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Speaker 2: But because he couldn't focus, he messed it all up,

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Speaker 2: never got it organized properly. The Chinese and every other

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Speaker 2: car manufacturer in the world saw it, pushed the go

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Speaker 2: button and the advantage was lost. There was also the

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Speaker 2: rocket and the boring company, all of which is fine.

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Speaker 2: But when you buy a car, you want to think

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Speaker 2: it comes with a company backing, sort of a dedication

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Speaker 2: to quality, to support, to a future, not the passing

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Speaker 2: fascination of a Nutter. As for the Trump period, and

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Speaker 2: Doge Global study out suggests he did fifteen billion dollars

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Speaker 2: worth of damage to the company as people realized their three,

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Speaker 2: or their y or their truck was bolted together by

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Speaker 2: a maniac. Now, as the company posts yet another series

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Speaker 2: of disappointing results, the other day, he's announced he's off

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Speaker 2: to robotics. As the headline said, the Tesla of old

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Speaker 2: is dead. The Tesla of Old, though, is still to

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Speaker 2: be found on roads all over the world, including this country,

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Speaker 2: and as the study showed, people's purchases of said car

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Speaker 2: was often directly connected to the man who made its name.

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Speaker 2: You bought one because Elon was call until he wasn't. Eventually,

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Speaker 2: this equation will apply to the myriad of Chinese evs

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Speaker 2: flooding global markets. At the moment, most of them will vanish,

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Speaker 2: and if you bought one, you'll wonder where to get

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Speaker 2: at service, or where the parts are or where head officers.

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Speaker 2: Trouble will be, there may not be any, and your

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Speaker 2: investment will be worthless. Certainly, Elon isn't worried about his cows.

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Speaker 2: He has already moved on. You might have been his,

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Speaker 2: you know, when you think about it, you might have

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Speaker 2: been as one night stand. You might have been lured

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Speaker 2: by the magnetism. You might also want to buy a

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Speaker 2: Toyota Wow.

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Speaker 1: News of the World in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Straight from the movies, they got a Velnie with frog poison.

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Speaker 3: Only the Russian regime had the motive, the means, and

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Speaker 3: the opportunity to administer this lethal poison while he was

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Speaker 2: Did they put the bells in the background deliberately just

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Speaker 2: actually climb into this one.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes countries go out and do their thing with based

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Speaker 4: any reason to question it, or we're not disputing or

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Speaker 4: getting into a fight with these countries over it. But

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Speaker 4: it was their report and they put that out there.

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Speaker 2: What they do want to climb into Thato was a run.

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Speaker 2: No point seeing that beautiful matter if you're not going

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Speaker 5: As we speak, there are people that are being executed

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Speaker 5: in Iran. There are people that are being arrested and

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Speaker 5: intervention is so necessary. This intervention is a humanitarian intervention

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Speaker 2: The Epstein files and they fall out into a new

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Speaker 2: I've got an update on that. In a moment block

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Speaker 2: you used to run America stepped into the monkey video mess.

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Speaker 8: The majority of the American people to find this behavior

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Speaker 2: And in Britain the measles have broken out more than

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Speaker 2: Finally, who knew curling was as agro as it is?

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Speaker 2: You will have seen over the week in Canada the

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Speaker 2: Sweden f bombs all over the place on live TV

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Speaker 2: that still has forward motion. World Curling issued a warning,

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Speaker 2: Swiss have accused the Canadians of cheating. Canada lost anyway,

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Speaker 2: The Munich Security conference coverage was fascinating. So Rubio gives

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Speaker 2: a speech yesterday, which I'm sure you're well aware of,

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Speaker 2: Headline Rubio says US and Europe belong together despite tensions.

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Speaker 2: Smith morning to you think you're like, it is the

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Speaker 2: US economy's and fascinating, isn't it. One day you think

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Speaker 2: it's not bad at all. Inflation that seems okay.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we had a welcome surprise on Wall Street on Friday,

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Speaker 7: You take up food energy, that's what the Fed picky

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Speaker 7: And Donald Trump will be exsthetic on that one. We

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Speaker 2: And manufacturing actually went down as smooge but it's still

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Speaker 2: well into expansion territory run. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 7: green economic Shoots storybook. Exposure factories are back in growth mode.

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Speaker 7: overall covery might be turning a corner. It's broad base

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Speaker 7: production doing well. Factories are humming and a healthy clip.

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Speaker 7: That's pretty much the science. It's not just inmagery. Rebuilding,

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Speaker 2: Let's see a big day Wednesday, Go well, mat Greg

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Speaker 2: Smith generate wealth and key, we save a specialist passing goes.

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Speaker 2: Tourism and migration make Smith and the bank said ASB said,

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Speaker 2: Actually, speaking of banks and not over the weekend, there's

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Speaker 1: Five trending now with m squarehouse the real house frequency.

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Speaker 8: Where are the ailing?

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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names. Talk to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bangladesh the BNP one, they won big majority. There's

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Speaker 2: There are no more files. They are all out. Richard

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Speaker 2: Good morning three. The goal is three point nine million

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Speaker 9: Well, it's certainly what we're striving for. And the numbers

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Speaker 9: There's a variety of things that happen in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: Right. So is the year of the fire Horse reel?

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Speaker 2: Quick word about Australia. They're doing the heavy lifting. Always

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Speaker 9: Well, I think it's a few things to look under

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Rebecca and Nasons. I appreciate it, Rebecca Ringra.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad we're slowly but surely getting back there. That

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Speaker 11: It was more of a fire hobby horse.

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Speaker 2: It's not like Mum came to me and when little Michael.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I don't have time at the moment.

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Speaker 2: In the United States of America, which had Arnold. Good

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Speaker 13: This is the diplomacy is ongoing as well. He's sending

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Speaker 13: the world's largest carrier, the USS Gerald Ford, in a

436
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Speaker 13: test called ships off to the Middle East. Amid speculation

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Speaker 13: that the Pentagon is prepping for military operations in Iran

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Speaker 13: that could extend for weeks, the White House says only

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Speaker 13: that all options are on the table. Usn voice Steve

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Speaker 13: whitcarf and Jared Kushner will hold negotiations with Iran this

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Speaker 13: week in Geneva under the umbrella of all of that.

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Speaker 13: At the Munich Security Conference, Mico Rubio, the US Secretary

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Speaker 13: of State, says the preference is to reach a deal

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Speaker 13: with Tehran over its nuclear program, but he says, quote

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Speaker 13: that's very hard to do. While Trump is openly floating

446
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Speaker 13: the possibility of changing the government in Iran, saying it

447
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Speaker 13: would be the best thing that can happen.

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Speaker 10: He says, for.

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Speaker 14: Forty seven years they've been talking to talking to talkie.

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Speaker 14: In the meantime, we've lost a lot of lives while

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Speaker 14: they talk and leg's blown off, farms, blown off, faces,

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Speaker 14: blown off has been going on for a long time.

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Speaker 12: Well.

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Speaker 13: Last June, of course, the US carried out strikes against

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Speaker 13: Iran's nucleo sites that we've seen at the time as

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Speaker 13: a one off, and it saw stealth bombers flying in

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Speaker 13: from the US of a, Iran carried out a limited

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Speaker 13: strike and retaliation targeting American base and catoff. This time,

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Speaker 13: Republicans sidertor Tom Cotton says the planning is more complex.

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Speaker 15: The military is pasturing itself right now to make sure

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Speaker 15: that the president has options.

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Speaker 13: Last week, Trump met with Israel's Nettanio, who said the

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Speaker 13: defense of Israel must be a key element in any

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Speaker 13: Iran efforts. While retired Forced Army General Jack Keane is

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Speaker 13: predicting a broad military campaign if Trump says, go, it

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Speaker 13: could be weeks long, is what he is suggesting.

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Speaker 15: I would see early on in the air campaign, we're

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Speaker 15: going to strike that offensive capability they have in addition

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Speaker 15: to leadership targets and the entire infrastructure that is literally

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Speaker 15: sustaining this regime.

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Speaker 13: So that's the talk for decades, the US is backed

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Speaker 13: away from this conflict with Iran. Is that all about

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Speaker 13: to change?

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Speaker 2: And then we get to Epstein. Bondis just said that

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Speaker 2: that is it, but the fall out continues.

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Speaker 13: Nothing to see here, right, Yeah, thank you Pambondi. You

477
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Speaker 13: know so many Epstein files with the three million pages plus,

478
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Speaker 13: so little surprise at people going through this sickening material

479
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Speaker 13: still are finding disturbing new accounts and emails with the

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Speaker 13: latest discoveries affecting some big names in music. The music

481
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Speaker 13: stars are not implicated in any wrongdoing, but their Hollywood agent,

482
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Speaker 13: Casey Wasserman, certainly is. He has represented stars like Atsheron

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Speaker 13: Chapel Rowan, Kendrick Lamar, the group Coldplay. Wassman's grandfather was

484
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Speaker 13: Lou Wasserman, once described as the godfather of the film

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Speaker 13: industry in Hollywood. He oversaw pictures like The Sting and

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Speaker 13: Me Tea and Psycho, Jurassic Park, Back to the Future,

487
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Speaker 13: Shindles's list, the whole host of them. Now Casey Wasserman

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Speaker 13: has a much lower profile, but he is selling his

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Speaker 13: entertainment agency. That's the latest. After the disclosure of lurid

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Speaker 13: emails with Epstein's criminal off Cider Julane Maxwell, Wassman wrote

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Speaker 13: in one at a point when he was married, quote

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Speaker 13: I think of you all the time. What do I

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Speaker 13: have to do to see you in a tight leather outfit?

494
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Speaker 13: She in turn offered to massage him in quote A

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Speaker 13: few spots to apparently drive a man wild. A lingering question, however,

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Speaker 13: is that Casey Wassman is the man in charge of

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Speaker 13: preps for the twenty twenty eight Los Angeles Olympics, and

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Speaker 13: that situation remained meantime. Goldman Sachs top lawyer Katherine Rumler

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Speaker 13: has quit after the DOJ's release of her emails with Epstein.

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Speaker 13: Her name comes up in more than ten thousand Epstein

501
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Speaker 13: filed documents, in some of which she addresses Epstein's uncle

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Speaker 13: Jeffrey and advises him on how to respond to tough

503
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Speaker 13: questions about his sex crimes. She also engaged in a

504
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Speaker 13: deal of gossip over the sexual orientation of well known

505
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Speaker 13: individuals and signed her letters love and kisses and accepted

506
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Speaker 13: gifts from Epstein, saying once she was quote totally tricked

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Speaker 13: out by uncle Jeffrey, so she's out. However, her stock

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Speaker 13: options at Goldman Sachs are expected to bring her eighty

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Speaker 13: million US dollars, so she'll probably do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, see you wins so, mate, Richard Arnold stateside and

511
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Speaker 2: by the way, as if we didn't know it. Research

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Speaker 2: over the weekend from the Federal Reserve Bank of New

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Speaker 2: York says the average tariff rate on imported goods rose

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Speaker 2: to thirteen percent from just two point six percent. Ninety

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Speaker 2: percent of the cost was paid for by the US,

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Speaker 2: So the whole thing that you won't pay anything was

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Speaker 2: complete crap. We all knew it, because of course we're

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Speaker 2: a free trading country. US firms and consumers continue to

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Speaker 2: bear the bulk of the economic burden of the high

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Speaker 2: tariffs and post in twenty twenty five, So exporters kept

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Speaker 2: their prices the same, passing off the cost of tariffs

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Speaker 2: to any company importing those goods, which in turn responded

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Speaker 2: by increasing the price of the goods to the shops.

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Speaker 2: And that's how tariffs work. They'll work it out eventually.

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Speaker 2: In America, ten away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Lhocking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News talks dead.

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Speaker 2: The Yeah, eleven point seven nineteen percent increased. This is

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Speaker 2: the red meat record value record after record after record.

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Speaker 2: The US still the largest market, up seventeen percent, China's

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Speaker 2: up a couple of percent, the European Union up forty two,

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Speaker 2: UK's up sixty four, Canada's up fifty two rose and

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Speaker 2: value the key to this. Even in the places where

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Speaker 2: volume was down, the value was up, and that is

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Speaker 2: the key. Sheep specifically up thirty one percent for goodness sake,

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Speaker 2: to four point seven billion average value has gone from

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Speaker 2: nine sixty five akilo to twelve sixty two. China has

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Speaker 2: markedly increased their purchasing of sheep meet EU second largest market,

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Speaker 2: up seventeen percent. UK down thirteen and six percent to

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Speaker 2: the UK, this is sheep, remember, not beef. As far

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Speaker 2: as beef is concerned. Values increased by fifteen percent. So

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Speaker 2: we're busted through five billion. So that's a record US

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Speaker 2: seventeen percent increase in value. Canada up twenty nine percent.

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Speaker 2: Japan fourth largest market. They're buying through hundred seventeen million

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Speaker 2: dollars worth of the stuff, even the stuff you gough.

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Speaker 2: Tripe up fourteen percent. They can't get enough of the

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Speaker 2: try offal up six prepared meat products. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what that is. That's salami anyway. That's up nine. Blood

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Speaker 2: products up three. I mean, we like rip the thing apart.

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Speaker 2: Just grab anything, sell it. They'll give you money for it.

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Speaker 2: All major markets up record after record after record. Five

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Speaker 2: minutes away from seven the in and the ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber, take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: And all the source of related the grocery supplies costs

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Speaker 2: for January. This is the infometrics, food stuffs, indecks. It

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Speaker 2: showed that supplies charged on average an extra two point

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Speaker 2: three percent of January, so that's within the band. If

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Speaker 2: you look at the RB, which you're out on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: By the way, aren't you excited about Dr Breman Wednesday?

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Speaker 2: Hey doctor Breman for the first time anyway, two point three,

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Speaker 2: So that's well within the band, slightly less than December.

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Speaker 2: January also saw the lowest number of cost increases in

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Speaker 2: three years, so there we go. So we've got seemingly

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Speaker 2: this part of inflation under control. A little bit of

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Speaker 2: a caveat. The summer cost moratorium means there is a

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Speaker 2: limit on the number of cost changes over the wholiday

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Speaker 2: period to reduce disruption to customers. So we may see

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Speaker 2: something next month come through. But you know, let's keep

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Speaker 2: our fingers cross. Seafood five percent up, butchery up four

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Speaker 2: point five, fruit chain, you know that's all seasonal stuff.

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Speaker 2: Keep we fruit and coliflower was up, but cherries and

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Speaker 2: peaches down. Cherries have been fantastic. Only department to see

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Speaker 2: supply costs drop with a Delhi section, that'll be those

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Speaker 2: prepared meat products. That's talking about a moment ago won't

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Speaker 2: it be all the salami. There are around thirteen hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty products that went up in price. And if

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Speaker 2: you remember this, which you won't because you're busy and

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Speaker 2: you've got a life, but I do because I don't

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Speaker 2: have one. Anyway, there used to be thousands, used to

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Speaker 2: be three or four thousand products a months going up

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Speaker 2: in price. Now there's only thirteen fifty. Once again because

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Speaker 2: of the moratorium. That might be a thing, So we'll

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Speaker 2: stand by it for next month, but for now take

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Speaker 2: it for what it is. Now we've got the very

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Speaker 2: good news coming. I mean it's not already knew. This

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Speaker 2: state of origin thing, which for some reason has been

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Speaker 2: sort of we've all known about, and yet we haven't

588
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Speaker 2: known about, and it's being announced that's spoiling and we

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Speaker 2: can go, oh wow, is it okay? Anyway, state of

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Speaker 2: origin and new rules applying to Eden Park they can

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Speaker 2: actually hold events. So you've got this huge facility in

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Speaker 2: the middle of Auckland and you've not been allowed to

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Speaker 2: hold many events there because all the labors hated it. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: that's all changing now, thank goodness. So we'll took to

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Speaker 2: Nick Sautner. Then the Dayvid Seymour line about having less

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Speaker 2: government and fewer cabinet ministers? Is there any point in

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Speaker 2: saying that if it's not a bottom line and therefore

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Speaker 2: may never come to pass. Here's what that's after the

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Speaker 2: news which is ext.

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Speaker 1: Twice credible, compelling, the breakfast show. You can't bess it's

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Speaker 1: the mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better

602
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Speaker 1: across residential, commercial and rural news talks.

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Speaker 2: He had been only seven past seven, So a good

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Speaker 2: day for events in eden Park. The government has confirmed

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Speaker 2: new settings twelve large and twenty medium sized concerts a

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Speaker 2: year on any day without the need for resource consent.

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Speaker 2: And at last the state of origin is confirmed ex

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Speaker 2: shorting as the Parks CEO and is with us. Good

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Speaker 2: morning morning.

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Speaker 16: How are you, Mike?

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Speaker 2: I'm very well indeed, big day excited.

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Speaker 16: It's a huge day, historic day for eden Park, our

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Speaker 16: national stadium.

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Speaker 2: Why did it take so long to get here?

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Speaker 17: Do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: It's the weirdest thing, isn't it.

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Speaker 16: Well, some of these events we plan for up to

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Speaker 16: six years and to see now we're in a situation

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Speaker 16: where our consenting regime is in line with other global venues.

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Speaker 16: When I started here nine years ago. Seventy percent of

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Speaker 16: the activity that we're doing today wasn't part of our

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Speaker 16: business model. I was perplexed and the team has been

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Speaker 16: committed to getting us to where.

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Speaker 10: We are today.

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Speaker 2: What's it worth to your bottom line?

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Speaker 16: Well, we know that since the Rugby World parf Eden

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Speaker 16: Park delivered over a billion dollars of economic benefit. The

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Speaker 16: estimates in the University of Auckland reporting said this change

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Speaker 16: could see up to one hundred million a year in

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Speaker 16: economic benefit of the result of their resource consent changes.

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Speaker 2: And is the demand there? It's one thing to be

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Speaker 2: able to do it, but is the demand there?

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Speaker 16: Well, it's say Mike, I'm confident that just even the

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Speaker 16: setting of changing so we can have Sunday shows. There

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Speaker 16: are artists that they're runs that comes through the East

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Speaker 16: Coast of Australia. They need surity of dates, they need

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Speaker 16: surety of times and this provides that clarity. So the

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Speaker 16: changes are significant. It aligns with international venues and we

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Speaker 16: are a real player now with the seventy million of

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Speaker 16: in fund on the East Coast and also in Australasia.

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Speaker 2: And is that real? I mean the state of oath

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Speaker 2: thing today's taken a while to get across the line.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, if it's right it's five million, buys

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Speaker 2: you that that's a good investment, isn't.

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Speaker 16: It certainly is. This is one of Australia's biggest sporting

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Speaker 16: events that will inject over twenty million of economic benefit

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Speaker 16: this weekend. We've got the Edinburg tattoo. The Premiere of

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Speaker 16: Queensland came out yesterday and said thirty nine million dollars

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Speaker 16: of economic benefit. Jehovah's Witness delivered three and a half

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Speaker 16: million visitors to Auckland, New Zealand. So we are a

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Speaker 16: strategic asset for New Zealand and community asset Porklands. I

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Speaker 16: do want to knowledge the community. We have over ninety

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Speaker 16: seven percent support. This has been about engaging with the community,

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Speaker 16: transparency and also careful event management.

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Speaker 2: Well you have a good day, Nick, Nick Saughton, who's

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Speaker 2: the CEO of Eden Parkard, that announcement's being made. I

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Speaker 2: think as we speak it's ten minutes past Sevensky that

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Speaker 2: party started the nation, of course, offered up the idea

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Speaker 2: of less government. Government departments cut from forty one to thirty,

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Speaker 2: number of ministers from twenty eight to twenty David Seymore's

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Speaker 2: the leader and he's with us. Good morning, good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: Problem with these things no bottom lines. This isn't the

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Speaker 2: bottom line, is it? Put it this way?

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Speaker 18: Are our potential partners and government making it a bottom

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Speaker 18: line to keep the current spaghetti arrangement. It's easy to say, well,

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Speaker 18: if you don't make this a bottom line, it will

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Speaker 18: never happen. But the truth is that everybody's got a

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Speaker 18: negotiator position.

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Speaker 2: This is ours.

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Speaker 18: Let's see where others come out. Because I don't think

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Speaker 18: the current arrangement in government is sustainable. We're spending too

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Speaker 18: much eventually go broke, and people are frustrated with the

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Speaker 18: results they get even for that price.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's swings boats? This specific policy swings boat?

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Speaker 18: I think people know that if we don't start changing

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Speaker 18: course in New Zealand, then the dashboard lights that are

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Speaker 18: flashing will eventually glow so bright that we ask ourselves

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Speaker 18: as we wake up what sort of country we are today?

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Speaker 18: You know, you only have to look at one of

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Speaker 18: the main KPIs for any country, how many people are

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Speaker 18: coming and how many people are going. We are losing

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Speaker 18: too many of our own children to say that what

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Speaker 18: we're doing now is a success.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. The irony is that you have spent two

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Speaker 2: in a big years as part of a coalition that

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Speaker 2: you could argue you promised you were going to do

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Speaker 2: a lot in the public service by way of cuts.

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Speaker 2: You actually ended up doing a couple of thousand, and

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Speaker 2: you could have done ten or twelve and taken the

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Speaker 2: same heat. So you're culpable.

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Speaker 18: Well, I actually agree with that. But there's two things

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Speaker 18: you can do when things don't go the way you want.

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Speaker 18: Either throw up your hands or you can ask yourself

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Speaker 18: what have we learnt here? And what I've learned from

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Speaker 18: two years in government so far is that when you

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Speaker 18: have twenty eight ministers, eight of whom don't actually go

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Speaker 18: to the cabinet meetings in charge of forty one department

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Speaker 18: one department, MB has twenty three ministers that it answers

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Speaker 18: to I'm one of very few ministers who's not in

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Speaker 18: charge of a small part of MB. Then you ask yourself,

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Speaker 18: first of all, who's actually accountable for getting results from

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Speaker 18: a department for a budget of taxpayers money? And the

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Speaker 18: answer is, in a way everybody and nobody. And second

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Speaker 18: of all, if you're the chief executive of MB, who

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Speaker 18: the hell do you actually answer to. Until we get

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Speaker 18: some clarity about who's in charge of what and who's

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Speaker 18: getting results for what budget, then it is very difficult

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Speaker 18: to make the kinds of changes that we did promise. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 18: you know, I want to see this government in for

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Speaker 18: another term and I want to see it guided by

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Speaker 18: things that we've learned.

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Speaker 2: This to the cultural leave thing shocked me last week.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm naive, I don't know, but I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: that nonsense was still going on. Every one of the

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Speaker 2: parties in this government promised to do something about that,

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Speaker 2: and yet you sit once again into your third year

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Speaker 2: and you haven't. Why not, Well, actually we have.

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Speaker 18: For example, I'm responsible for Farmak. When their contracts came up,

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Speaker 18: we played hardball and we got those provisions out of

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Speaker 18: the contracts. But I tell you the PSA, the Union

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Speaker 18: of Public Servants, fought bloody hard to keep it there.

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Speaker 18: And actually, if you think about it, you know we

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Speaker 18: often hear including on this show, well you haven't made

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Speaker 18: a lot of progress. Actually, what you've got to remember

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Speaker 18: is that only two years ago this was absolutely normal.

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Speaker 18: These kinds of provisions were being put into contracts. Now

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Speaker 18: as they come up and Karen Chu is onto it

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Speaker 18: over at Aranga Tamariki. Ministers right across the government are

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Speaker 18: onto it, including what I've done in Farmac. But nonetheless

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Speaker 18: we have gone from this being absolutely normal to getting

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Speaker 18: rid of it as the negotiations come up.

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you, appreciate it. David Seymore, the

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Speaker 2: ACT Party leader, thirteen minutes past seven, passing Chris catt All.

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Speaker 2: Very good piece in the Herald over the weekend about memory.

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Speaker 2: If you didn't read it, read it and he makes

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Speaker 2: it defies belief that he had to write it, but

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Speaker 2: nevertheless it's well worth reading. Jobs. What can I tell you?

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Speaker 2: Listing volumes fell nineteen percent in October deceent, but this

739
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Speaker 2: is out this morning, so that's for the final quarter.

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Speaker 2: Listing volumes fell nineteen percent. It might have something to

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Speaker 2: do with the end of the year. But this job's

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Speaker 2: idea at five point four it hasn't reached the worst

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Speaker 2: bit yet. That's an economic figure in play for election year. Agriculture,

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Speaker 2: fishing and forestry up fifteen percent, construction up eight healthcare

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Speaker 2: though down thirteen, manufacturing down eighteen, retail down fifteen. None

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Speaker 2: of that looks good. Taranaki down ten, Hawks Bay down eighteen,

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Speaker 2: but Nelson Tasman up fifteen, Southland up twenty two. So

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Speaker 2: it's a tale of two countries or two parts of

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Speaker 2: the country. Average wage roughly we're all earning seventy something

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Speaker 2: seventy two. If you're in the Bay of twenty seventy six,

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Speaker 2: of year in Auckland seventy six in Gisbon, you want

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Speaker 2: to be in accounting at ninety three thousand on average.

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Speaker 2: Architects seventy three. I'd pay architects more. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you're a good architect and you do a beautiful house,

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Speaker 2: seventy three thousand dollars. Not enough for that sees construction

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Speaker 2: and roading seventy seven. How come the person doing the

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Speaker 2: road earns more than the person designing the building. That

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Speaker 2: doesn't sound right to me, does it? That's just me?

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Speaker 2: Fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Hike asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio. Howard

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Speaker 2: At b Prime Minister. Shortly seventeen past seven sailed GP

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Speaker 2: interesting weekend black foils crashed, of course with France the

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Speaker 2: grind Lewis Sinclair had surgery for broken legs. They split

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Speaker 2: the feet the fleet yesterday anyway, Mark ORMs is the

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Speaker 2: aut sailing professor and as with us, good morning.

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Speaker 17: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: What'd you make of the weekend? Was it one of

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Speaker 2: those things, the crash, the injury. Is it one of

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Speaker 2: those things or not?

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Speaker 19: I think it's more than one of those things, Mike.

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Speaker 19: In fact, I think a good analogy and friend of

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Speaker 19: Mineset is that it feels a little bit like the

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Speaker 19: early days of Formula one, where you know, they really

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Speaker 19: hadn't got on top of the safety and there were

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Speaker 19: increasing injuries and fatalities. And now we're in a stage

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Speaker 19: I think with sale GP where they've got so many competitors,

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Speaker 19: they're trying to bring it right close to the shore

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Speaker 19: for the fans and starting to see some indications that

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Speaker 19: they need to take some action to just bring the

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Speaker 19: safety aspect and crank that up a bit.

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Speaker 2: Will technology eventually fix that, like if one, will you

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Speaker 2: be having more agile boats or do they need to

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Speaker 2: change the rules.

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Speaker 19: I think it's probably a bit of both. Certainly, there

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Speaker 19: are some additional technology for safety, they've already brought some in,

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Speaker 19: but there are a couple of other things that you

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Speaker 19: can't control. Within sailing, of course, you're flying around at

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Speaker 19: speeds that you drive on the motorway without any brakes,

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Speaker 19: without the ability to really control your accelerator as well,

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Speaker 19: because that comes from the wind. So when you put

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Speaker 19: it really close to the shore with only meters to

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Speaker 19: a pretty hard stop against the rocks and thirteen boats

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Speaker 19: going at that sort of speed in close proximity, it

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Speaker 19: just takes one mistake or something unexpected to happen and

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Speaker 19: you can end up with a pile up, and you

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Speaker 19: can end up with some pretty serious injuries, and there

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Speaker 19: is a risk of fatality. So you know, they really

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Speaker 19: do need to look at this carefully and make some changes.

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Speaker 2: Is the split the field the answer for now?

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Speaker 19: I think that's a major step forward. I was really

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Speaker 19: pleased to see them make that call on Sunday. From

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Speaker 19: my point of view, it doesn't detract from the event

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Speaker 19: and the spectator.

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Speaker 10: In fact, arguably it might add to it.

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Speaker 19: There was no break between racing when they split them,

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Speaker 19: because you've finished one, you hadn't even got enough time

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Speaker 19: to go off and get a drink, and you're into

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Speaker 19: the next heat, you know, So it just creates more

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Speaker 19: space so that if something does go wrong, you've got

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Speaker 19: less opportunity or less risk of somebody following close to

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Speaker 19: end up just crashing into the boat in front, like

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Speaker 19: the French did with the Keywis on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Mark Mark Orm's out of aut this morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: If we don't do what Sima just said, than the

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Speaker 2: country will go and then we have to do what

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Speaker 2: Seymour just said. So either way it's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Grant seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: And if you are skilled and bright and determined, offshore

866
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: seems to be the place you want to be. You

867
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: also talked of confidence, and that to me is what's missing.

868
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: That's the critical part of what's missing in this country.

869
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: See our four kids, or the four of the five,

870
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 2: the four are actually work, two are already offshore, one

871
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: could be. So that's three out of four for goodness sake.

872
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: And we will never be in London, will never be

873
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: in New York. But the fizz, the fizz we had

874
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: about a half dozen years ago. It's gone. Immigrants have

875
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: replaced our kids. We've been dumbed down. Our brightest haven't

876
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: been replaced with America's brightest or Europe's brightest. But from

877
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: countries like Indi. You're in the Philippines. We're exporting scientists

878
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: and doctors and bringing in nurses and baristas. Immigration's awesome.

879
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: I love immigration, but not of It's not of our choosing.

880
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: We are being forced into this. So the good news

881
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: as this has happened comparatively fast if you think about it.

882
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: Not long ago, our net gain was in excess of

883
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand a year. We brought them in and

884
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: the good ones didn't leave. See. I figure we can

885
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: recapture all of that, but a mindset shift is needed.

886
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: We need to want to be better, but I'm not

887
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,959
Speaker 2: sure enough of us are of that mindset. Hence hence

888
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: Rennie's concern asking Mike, of course, Seymour's right. We desperately

889
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: need to toss a few ministers out the door. Never

890
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: again for Seymour in Parliament. Back to barking at car

891
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: tires in the car park. This is the problem with

892
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: the small parties in an MMP environment. I mean that

893
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: Maurory seat thing. I mean MMP all by itself, New

894
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: Zealand first. MMP all by itself has sold the Murray

895
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: seat issue. We've never had more diversity. But it's not

896
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: a bottom line, and so we wait for national to

897
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: make up their mind. Maybe they will, maybe they wait.

898
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'll ask the Prime minister. Shortly, Seymour says,

899
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: we need less government. A lot of people would agree

900
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: with that, we need fewer ministers. A lot of people

901
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: would agree with it, but it's not a bottom line,

902
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: and so they always run that line about well, if

903
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: you vote for us, we can get the change. No

904
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: one's going to give Act thirty five forty percent. As

905
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 2: much as if you're an ex supporter you may love that,

906
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: it isn't happening. They're a ten percent party, maybe they're

907
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: twelve and a good day, eight on a bad day, whatever,

908
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: the point being. In an MMP environment, a lot of

909
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: the stuff that's now being said, unless somebody has the

910
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: gonuts to come out and go this policy here, it's

911
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: bottom line and we're not going with anybody unless they

912
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: agree with it. Unless they start saying that then this

913
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 2: is just hoty air in the ether might come to pass,

914
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: might not. Prime Minister, he's part of the announcement today

915
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: at Eden Parker understand he's down there with the whole

916
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: state of origin things. So he's with us shortly and

917
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: then speaking of sport, the lads in the commentary box

918
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: after rated clock, you're on the mic Hosking Breakfast.

919
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate, The mic Hosking

920
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: Breakfast with a Vita Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way News togs.

921
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: Had been a lot of good sport over the weekend

922
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: that will cover off. I mean the day that Scotland

923
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: beats England is the day to remember. Either have thought

924
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: apart from me anything else. Joson pin Andrews several short

925
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: in the meantime, at twenty three minutes away from eight,

926
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister is with us. Good morning morning, Mike,

927
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: how are you very well? Indeed, just a couple of

928
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: quickies on announcements over the weekend. The Maori seats in

929
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: New Zealand. First, how far off thinking about that is?

930
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: The National Party?

931
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 17: Oh, look, hasn't been a major priority.

932
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 6: We're sort of focused on powering up the economy and

933
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 6: doing a few other things. At this point we will

934
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 6: have a caucus conversation about it at some point, but

935
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 6: for right now, we're sort of focused on what New

936
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 6: Zealanders wants to do, which is getting this economy moving.

937
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 2: What's your gut?

938
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 6: Oh, look, I need to have a caucus conversation because

939
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 6: there'll be a range of views within the caucus, and

940
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 6: that's you know that deserves proper consideration at some time.

941
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: Okay, act fewer departments, yes or no?

942
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 6: Really open to doing what we can to improve the

943
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 6: effectiveness of public service. I still think there's a long

944
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 6: way to go. Initially the first two years has been

945
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 6: getting rid of consultants, getting the eleven billion of savings,

946
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 6: getting the bureaucracy out and putting it to the frontline resources.

947
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 6: But look open to what we can do on the

948
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 6: second term around improving the efficiency.

949
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 17: Of the public service. I've got a lot of appetite

950
00:45:59,440 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 17: for that.

951
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: Do we need twenty eight cabinet ministers a bunch of

952
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: whom don't even sit in the cabinet?

953
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 6: Well, Actually the bigger issue is how do you how

954
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 6: do you organize the public service in a way that

955
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 6: delivers more effectiveness, and also how do you digitize it

956
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 6: so it's much more it treats itself as large service

957
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 6: organizations that are customer focus, that are technology enabled, and

958
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 6: then on the back of that, you'd work out how

959
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 6: many ministers you need to sort of run that system.

960
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 17: So I'd start there before I started the ministers do.

961
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: And what made his speech effective, I think was that

962
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: you promised a lot on public service cuts. You even

963
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: effect cut two thousand and you could have done more.

964
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: You would have taken the same amount of grief. Did

965
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: you miss a trick?

966
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 12: Oh?

967
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 6: Look, I think you know we've We've had to you know,

968
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 6: there's been a massive amount of bureaucracy in that system.

969
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 6: We've generated eleven billion of savings every year we've been there.

970
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 6: You know, it's enabled us to put nine hundred more

971
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 6: corrections offices in place by actually, you know, going after

972
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 6: the back office and creating efficiencies there to be spent

973
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 6: on the front line. I think, you know, we've gone

974
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 6: hard after the consultants spend, you know, and I think

975
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 6: there's a number of things that we've done really well

976
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 6: given in space of two years.

977
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 17: But I'm not denying there's more to do.

978
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 6: I think, you know, we want a highly efficient New

979
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 6: Zealand public service that is lean very focused on delivery

980
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 6: and certainly could use technology a lot more. When you

981
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 6: think about the power of AI and what you're seeing

982
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 6: in the corporate business world in New Zealand and around

983
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 6: the world, there's just massive opportunity. I mean, why can't

984
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 6: a thirty two year old mum just sort of say,

985
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 6: you know, have a natural language.

986
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 17: Inquiry about how does she get eyeglasses for a.

987
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 6: Nine year old? And what are working for family tex credits?

988
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 6: I mean, it's pretty simple stuff a lot.

989
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: I mean there is more room to do and you

990
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: could argue that you've missed it.

991
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 6: Well, I'd argue that I think we've made a good start.

992
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 6: I just argue there's more to do, right, and I'm

993
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 6: up for that conversation.

994
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: The letter from labor over India, is this real or

995
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: are they playing games?

996
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 6: Look, I think it's pretty hard as leader of the

997
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 6: opposition to get attention at times. Is a bit of

998
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 6: politiccking over the letter. McLay has been talking to O'Connor,

999
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 6: who's a seasoned trade minister as well, over RecA months.

1000
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 17: They're talking more formally again this week and.

1001
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 6: You know, we'll continue to work through any issues or

1002
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 6: concerns they have but the big deal is lot just

1003
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 6: fast forward ten years from now. Are we going to

1004
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 6: step back and say this was a terrible deal. Absolutely not,

1005
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 6: it's a great deal.

1006
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 2: The stuff they're talking about, though, the treatment of migrants

1007
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: proper university courses, is that anything that's an actual problem?

1008
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 17: No?

1009
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 6: No, I mean there's three components of the labor mobility.

1010
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 6: There's these temporary employment entry visas. You know, there's no

1011
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 6: way that they can bring in thousands of family members

1012
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 6: off the back of that. I've seen you know once

1013
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 6: another's talk about that that's untrue. There's equally the international students.

1014
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 6: There's no change to what we do today. Really, we

1015
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 6: get to control all of that. And then on the

1016
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 6: working holiday visas scheme, we have forty five other countries

1017
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 6: similar schemes and it's very aligned with all of that.

1018
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 6: So yeah, but listen, let's we'll work through their issues.

1019
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 6: We let maclay and I kind of have a go

1020
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 6: at it first.

1021
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 2: And do you see the iron I mean, the irony

1022
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: and this this is everything that's wrong with the country,

1023
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 2: isn't it. For years we bleeded on about a deal

1024
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: with India. At the moment we get a deal with India,

1025
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 2: a coalition partner doesn't want to bar it, and the

1026
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: other guys are playing dumb games. I mean, we want

1027
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: to get on with life or we don't.

1028
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 6: Correct, correct, And you know, honestly, just you know, blind Freddy,

1029
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 6: if you take a step back, look at this thing cold,

1030
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 6: this is really awesome for New Zealand. We're growing with

1031
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 6: the growing economy. It's going to be the third biggest

1032
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 6: in the world. It's got one and a half billion people.

1033
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 6: It's going from four hundred and forty million to seven

1034
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty million in the middle class living like

1035
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 6: middle class New Zealanders who want New Zealand products and services.

1036
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 17: And we've done a great deal.

1037
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 6: And when you line it up versus what Indians ogne

1038
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 6: with other countries, I'm.

1039
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 17: Really really proud of this.

1040
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 6: So you know, it's about I guess you know, there

1041
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 6: were people who posing the China Free Trade Deal back

1042
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 6: in the day. There was people who are posing the

1043
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 6: CPTPP deal. Honestly, this is New Zealand is a trading nation.

1044
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 6: One and four of our jobs come from trade. We

1045
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 6: just got to get on board and we've done a

1046
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 6: cack ass job getting this thing together. But yeah, we'll

1047
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 6: work through their concerns. But you know it's not about politics.

1048
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 6: This is really about New Zealand. And yeah, it's frustrating

1049
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 6: sometimes when you don't see people get on with growth

1050
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 6: and positivity and a vision and can do and ambition.

1051
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: Can you explain to me why your party and in

1052
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 2: the New Zealand First and Act both all campaigned on

1053
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: this business of the morification if you like, of New Zealand.

1054
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 2: And yet we find out last week that OT's got

1055
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: cultural leave and any other government departments have got cultural

1056
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: leave and if you're maor you get unlimited cultural leave.

1057
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 2: No questions asked. How is that still possible to go

1058
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 2: three years into your government?

1059
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 17: Well, it's a legacy of the last government.

1060
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 6: And as the employment schemes come up for negotiation, right

1061
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 6: because that's sort of two three year terms, that's when

1062
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 6: this information gets surfaced.

1063
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 17: And so I got to say it doesn't sit right

1064
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Speaker 17: with me at all.

1065
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 6: I've actually asked my office to talk to the Public

1066
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 6: Service Commissioner about it and to say what options have

1067
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 6: we got to end it. I certainly expect going forward

1068
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 6: there'll be not featuring in any new contracts, and I

1069
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 6: certainly expect that it'll be removed when existing contracts are renegotiated.

1070
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just a bit bananas, it's not really,

1071
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 6: it's a bit, just a bit silly and so but

1072
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 6: it's a lot and feature of how the last government

1073
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 6: locked into employment contracts with unions and that's just not right.

1074
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 2: No, it is not. I appreciate your time, Christopher Lux

1075
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 2: and Prime Minister a couple of other things, just briefly.

1076
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 2: I know it happened Frier, but you can't hide from

1077
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Speaker 2: the Golden visa good news story. Five hundred and seventy

1078
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Speaker 2: three applications, three point thirty nine billion dollars coming our way,

1079
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Speaker 2: one point oh five billions already committed. So that's worked

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00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 2: to treat. All they did was change the settings investments

1081
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 2: coming from places like the US, Germany, Southeast Asia and China.

1082
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: The housing thing March six changes. So some of these

1083
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: people have got a few dollars, will be able to

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00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: buy something expensive in a place like Auckland or Queenstown.

1085
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: Interesting article also, and I didn't have time to cover

1086
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 2: it off with the Prime Minister this morning, but importing gas,

1087
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: this is the LNG discussion. Most of the damage from

1088
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: dwindling gas supplies has already occurred, so the inference of

1089
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: the article look it up as well worth reading. The

1090
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: inference of the article is that the damage has been done.

1091
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: The companies that were affected have moved on to other areas.

1092
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: Since partners they were hired to model regional and economic outcomes.

1093
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 2: Pleasant methodics balance your rear plants. They're already closed down.

1094
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: Fonterra is electrifying the gas boilers. Other gas intense abusers

1095
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: have switched fuel, so in other words, they've already gone

1096
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: and done their thing. So is there any actual point

1097
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 2: of bringing in LNG in a dry year? So much

1098
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 2: of that adjustment's already happened. It means much of the

1099
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 2: economic cost of higher gas prices have already been born

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00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: by the industries and regions. So I don't know how

1101
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: smart the whole thing looks at the end of the day. Mike,

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00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 2: let me come back to it in a moment. Are

1103
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: you going to give your thoughts on Bruce Cotteor's opinion

1104
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 2: piece and the heir will I raised it? You clearly

1105
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: joined the program late, so think about your actions and

1106
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: get up earlier. You're one of those people they go

1107
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: those stats that came out on Friday where everyone goes

1108
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: to bed in this country eleven thirty at night, they

1109
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: get up at thirteen past seven in the morning. You're

1110
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: clearly one of those people. I sort of my thoughts

1111
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 2: on it, but it's well worth revisiting. In a moment

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Speaker 2: seven forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike asking Breakfast, a full show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 10: It'd be.

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00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 2: Mike up the Highlanders. Yeah, it's all right. I suppose

1117
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: a good type game, Jamie Joseph he should be the

1118
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: all black coach? Should he be the all that is?

1119
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: That?

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00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 2: How that works? I don't know anyway. So cod Rell

1121
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: over the Weekend, to a degree, argues what I argue.

1122
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: This year, the government will be re elected for a

1123
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 2: couple of reasons. Fairly obvious. One. Generally governments get two terms.

1124
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 2: History shows us there's two. Bruce is placing and read

1125
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 2: it in the Weekend Herald because it's well worth it.

1126
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: Bruce placed, in my humble opinion, far too much emphasis

1127
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: on the poles. He was saying, the poles are tight.

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00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: Why are the polso tight? What's happened to people? Why

1129
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 2: can't they remember how useless Hopkins was? Et cetera. Then

1130
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 2: he goes to outline the birds. Poles are irrelevant. Poles

1131
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: are a snapshot of the moment. Poles allow people to

1132
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: go around be a bit grumpy and say a bunch

1133
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: of things that won't necessarily play out when they actually

1134
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: come to vote. That's why I'm so interested in what's

1135
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: happening with reform and one Nation. If you read those polls,

1136
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: you'd think the world's turning upside down and there are

1137
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 2: new governments on their way. I'm not one hundred percent

1138
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: convinced that's actually the case. What people say in a

1139
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: poll and what they do in a voting booth are

1140
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: off in two very different things. But he does very

1141
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: simply point out that a very very very short period

1142
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 2: of time ago, this country was completely and utterly wrecked.

1143
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 2: The aforementioned gas was a very good example of that.

1144
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: The cultural leave and all the government departments is another

1145
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: good example of that. The borrowing, the printing, the spending,

1146
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: all of those sort of things. We will when it

1147
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: comes time in November remember all of that. And interestingly enough,

1148
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: a couple of weekends ago, Damian Grant, Writing and Stuff

1149
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: put forward an idea. It turns out he is completely wrong,

1150
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: but it was an interesting idea. He seemed to indicate

1151
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 2: that the labor government of particularly twenty through twenty three,

1152
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 2: we are so ashamed of and so embarrassed of, we

1153
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: don't want to think about it and talk about it.

1154
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: Therefore it won't affect our vote. It was a weird

1155
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: thing to say, because of course the exact opposite is true,

1156
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: even if you were one of those people who got

1157
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 2: scared you know what by COVID and you listen to

1158
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: every word. Just Cinda Ever said, you know full well

1159
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 2: what you did wrong, and you will somehow make that

1160
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: right come election day. So that's essentially why are they're

1161
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: going to get But that's in a nutshell what Bruce says.

1162
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 2: But as I say, read it for yourself. Now the

1163
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: best story of the weekend, and by quite some margin

1164
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: in a moment, tend to wait the.

1165
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: Mike Costing breakfast with Vida Retirement Communities news togs had

1166
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: been like, if.

1167
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: You covered Wellington water and Leggot's resignation, not yet, but

1168
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: I mean, what else is there to cover? He's quite

1169
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: and the poo's still going into the water. Good on

1170
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: and for doing so, generally, in a world where lack

1171
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: of accountability rain supreme at least, and it saw the

1172
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 2: writing on the wall like company is not personally his fault.

1173
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: He didn't blow the place up. But you know, when

1174
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 2: you're in charge, you're in charge. Story of the Weekend

1175
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: Ian Fair, Gray and Lorraine. It had to do with

1176
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day. But a marriage is a marriage. Seventy five

1177
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: years that were celebrating and they got married Feb. Seventeen.

1178
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: He's now ninety seven, she's ninety five. They met in

1179
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 2: nineteen forty five and they married Feb. Seventeen, nineteen fifty one. Now,

1180
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: the thing that touched me apart from their love story

1181
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: and that they're still together and they hold hands so

1182
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: they don't fall over, because stability becomes an issue in

1183
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: later life, of course. And it was just seemed a lovely,

1184
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 2: lovely life and a lovely marriage and a lovely love story.

1185
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:39,479
Speaker 2: But here's perhaps a lesson in life itself, and why well,

1186
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: while things change, maybe they don't. So their wedding was modest,

1187
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: dresses were handmade, the flowers arranged by somebody they knew,

1188
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 2: isn't it. Those lights just went out again, the big

1189
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 2: spotlights in the studio blue up. How many of those

1190
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: I've got these big spotlights in the studio. This is

1191
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: now the second lot that's blow up. How many of

1192
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 2: those have to blow up before we buy from somebody

1193
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: who actually knows what they're doing and produces proper lights

1194
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 2: instead of going directly to temor just all when it

1195
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 2: once boom. Anyway, I can't tell you the story now

1196
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: because it's so dark in here. I can't see anything.

1197
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 2: I'm only kidding.

1198
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 11: I mean we're going to have to do the rest

1199
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 11: of the show by feel by braille. Yeah, use the force.

1200
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: The wedding was modest, dresses were handmade, the flowers arranged

1201
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: by somebody they knew. Wedding breakfast cost ten shillings ahead.

1202
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: The whole wedding cost forty quid. Now, even if you

1203
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: do that with inflation, it's a few hundred bucks. And

1204
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking back to the text the other day.

1205
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 2: They were planning for forty five thousand dollars and there

1206
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: isn't that a lesson? And just how hopelessly we've got

1207
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: out of control. And then we all moan that we're

1208
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: all in debt and the cost of living is just

1209
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: so shocking. We can't even afford cram fresh or butter anymore.

1210
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: And the whole thing is a joke. They did it

1211
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 2: for forty quid. The first year of their marriage, they

1212
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: lived in a caravan while the family home was being

1213
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: built Ian un about six or seven dollars a week,

1214
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: and they put the money in a series of label tins.

1215
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: There were six tins. There was some money for the mortgage,

1216
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 2: some money for the grocery, some money for the clothing.

1217
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: They quote had to be careful. Now, yes, life is different,

1218
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 2: and yes you might argue that you don't want to

1219
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: live in a caravan, and yes you might not want

1220
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: to put all your money in tins, and I get

1221
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: all of that. But in that simplistic view of the

1222
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: world and a different time, is maybe a lesson for us,

1223
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: all about managing risk and debt and choices and wants

1224
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: and needs. And as far as I can tell from

1225
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: the article, they're very happy all these years later, and

1226
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: they didn't need the latest, the greatest and the brightest.

1227
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 11: At the very least, if you can find somebody to

1228
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 11: hold your hand.

1229
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: One hundred people, I would be happy if somebody held

1230
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: my hand and the lights were on. So you definitely

1231
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 2: need somebody to hold your hand to get you out

1232
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: of there. So all they asked for support in a

1233
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 2: couple of moments j Some Pine and Andrew Seville. But

1234
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 2: moments away here at News Talks, they'd.

1235
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: Be asking the questions others won't the mic asking breakfast

1236
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: with the defender, embraced the impossible News Talks, they'd be.

1237
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 2: Room no One, no one. In the next Crown are

1238
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: four five by Don Tanner.

1239
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 20: There it is.

1240
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: There's no assault, the Crown of tending the result. Listen

1241
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 2: to the noise, Yes, be my home.

1242
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 11: Perspectory of famous one to kick off Super Rugby Pacific

1243
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 11: twenty twenty.

1244
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 21: Six and the Cheeks take the Battle of the bombays

1245
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 21: Super Rugby's kneeling in over the last few years for

1246
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 21: a stake in the ground and round one.

1247
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: Covers the back with friends. Oh they lost the boat

1248
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: there the blackfoils they just.

1249
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 22: Got a little loose, just came out of the wall

1250
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 22: to those Atlas said incident.

1251
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary Box with Spears Finance Smart Asset

1252
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: and Equipment Finance for Kiwi Businesses.

1253
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: Andrew Sevil, Jason Pine, good morning to you morning, Andrew.

1254
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: Your assessment of the state of origin. How big a

1255
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: deal we pay five million dollars allegedly and we get

1256
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: a state of origin. Yes, it will sell out. But

1257
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: what I don't get and this is not a criticism,

1258
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: it's just a weird thing. If you're the NRL, Hello, right,

1259
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: let's turn them off and let's start again. So, Jason,

1260
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: let me ask you the question, if you're the NRL,

1261
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: do you gain anything from a sport and a game

1262
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 2: that is already big here at all?

1263
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's a good question. I think it's they talk

1264
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 22: about expansion, don't they into different markets? Look, they've taken

1265
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 22: state of origin, gain three or one of the three games.

1266
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 22: I guess Auckland, New Zealand was the new frontier for that.

1267
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 22: I would like to think that that you know that

1268
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 22: most of the people who come to it will be

1269
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 22: New Zealanders, won't they? I know some people will come

1270
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 22: across the Tasman to watch, but won't the majority of

1271
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 22: the fifty thousand who who buy tickets be from New Zealand.

1272
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: I would have thought that, you know, this is they're saying.

1273
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: They're saying several thousand Australians. But I mean my point

1274
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 2: being around Baltimore, Hello, just get them on the engineer, Jason.

1275
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 21: But I can't hear hosking abusing me.

1276
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: Hello, Andrew, Oh this is this is Cambles, isn't it.

1277
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: You can't hear me? Why don't we just use the phone?

1278
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 2: Why are we insisting? Clearly nothing works in here this morning?

1279
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 2: The lights are gone, the WhatsApp doesn't work. Should we

1280
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: all just go home? So anyway, sorry Jason, you were

1281
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 2: saying what.

1282
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 22: No, I think I just was saying. I hope that

1283
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 22: I hope that of the fifty thousand, most of them

1284
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 22: are New Zealanders. Chance to not have to go across

1285
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 22: to Australia to watch State of Origin. We've watched Out

1286
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 22: of Origin for many, many many years from across here.

1287
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 22: A chance to go the kickoff time interests me, Mike.

1288
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 22: What are they saying about the kickoff time?

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Speaker 1: Is?

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Speaker 22: Is it going to be nine o'clock?

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Speaker 2: Well that was my other concern, because I mean, you

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Speaker 2: can't have something kicking off at three o'clock in the

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01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 2: afternoon on Australia, can you.

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Speaker 22: No? No, And so I'm not sure I think they

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Speaker 22: could probably stomach an eight thirty New Zealand time kickoff.

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Speaker 22: That'll be six thirty over there. And what does that mean?

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Speaker 22: I mean, great news obviously, that sporting events can now

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Speaker 22: go to ten thirty at night regardless of the night.

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Speaker 22: That was the other part of the announcement today. But yeah,

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Speaker 22: I guess we'll wait to see what the kickoff time is.

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Speaker 22: And look, great state of origin in New Zealand. We

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Speaker 22: knew it was coming. This has been leaked a long

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Speaker 22: time ago. But no, great to have it finally.

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Speaker 21: You going sav Yeah good, Mike, Yeah, yeah, I think

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Speaker 21: I I think I might have updated my application last week.

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Speaker 2: Think you've got to stop using You've got to stop

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01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 2: using burner phones and all that sort of stuff. Make

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01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: this like there's no there's no point to it.

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Speaker 21: Did you What have we talked about so far?

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Speaker 2: Nothing? Nothing, nothing that you know anything about, so don't

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01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 2: worry about it. Did you watch any of the Super Rugby?

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Speaker 2: Just I don't want to spend too much time on

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Speaker 2: this because I got other fish to fry. But the

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Speaker 2: everyone's texting me about the crusaders and crusaders are we fine?

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Speaker 2: So did anything happen that was? You know, the crowds

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01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 2: were good, the level of competition was We're okay?

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Speaker 21: I thought, yeah, I thought even parks pretty good. Saturday night.

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Speaker 21: Look both that both the local derby games were close. Okay,

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01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 21: they were dramatic finishes, but overall I thought the standard

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Speaker 21: was was not that great. And yes, it's early in

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01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 21: the season, but a lot of these teams, a lot

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01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 21: of these players have been together for a couple of months,

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Speaker 21: or most of them have, so I was a bit

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Speaker 21: concerned about the skill level and about the standard of

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Speaker 21: some of those games. Yes, the Crusaders, they generally start

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Speaker 21: so because they still bring in your all black players back,

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Speaker 21: so I wouldn't. I thought Mowana's winning fig was outstanding,

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Speaker 21: but overall the two local derbies here, yes, exciting finishes,

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Speaker 21: but standard be's something to be desired.

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Speaker 2: You see the preseason Warriors, Jason.

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Speaker 22: No, I didn't know. I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Well, well fortunately I did. So let me tell you what.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you what's going on there. The score

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Speaker 2: at thirty three eighteen to Manly is not fair because

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01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: they've mainly scored late. And if you take the seven

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Speaker 2: or six off that you get back to twenty seven

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01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 2: and son twenty no, no stop twenty, you get back

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Speaker 2: to twenty seven eighteen and we left at least six

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Speaker 2: possibly eight on the on the ground.

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Speaker 21: Because this is like that ad on TV where the

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01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 21: guy's trying to work out it. He's had too much

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01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 21: drink of egg and drive and he's sitting there and

1343
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 21: he's adding up with a calculator and.

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01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 22: Hello, won the Grand Final. We won the Grand Final.

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 22: I see by these mats.

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01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 2: Well, no, because we're back at twenty seven eighteen. We've

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01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 2: left at least six on the board, if not eight.

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01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 2: It's basically a draw. That's what I'm saying. Our kicking

1349
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: was rubbing, and so it's hard to know what happens

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01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 2: pre season because you don't know who's on the field

1351
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 2: and whether they're taking it seriously or not. But you

1352
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 2: know it's.

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01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 10: And then.

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01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 21: Your minus eight points off manly because of the Napi

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01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 21: effector yeah right, So then basically the Warror is one seriously.

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Speaker 2: Though good crowd.

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Speaker 21: The Warriors have a lot of good young talent. A

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01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 21: couple of those guys who came off the bench I

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01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 21: hadn't really heard of before. I thought they were outstanding.

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01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 21: So there is some good talent that you make.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I think. That's that's that's the summation

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01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: I came to. We got some we got some good

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01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 2: talent there, and this is our year and will be

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01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,439
Speaker 2: absolutely fine. Now if I put you on hold save

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01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 2: for the ad break, will the battery last or we're

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01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 2: going to have some sort of problem. What's going to

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01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: happen there, Let's see how it goes. Andrew seviland Jason

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Speaker 2: Pine more shortly thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio

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01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: car it by News Talks.

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01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 2: It be News Talks. It'll be seventeen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary barks with spears, fight Ads, smart

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01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: as and equipment fight adds for Kiwi businesses.

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01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 2: Jason just quickly, is the Scotland thing over England? Is

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01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: that like history being made and we'll have a national holiday?

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01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: Or it seems it seems that weird the sixth nation.

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01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 2: That's all because you know, Italy won the other week

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01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 2: and then Ireland just scraped over Italy this weekend. Blah

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01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 2: blah blah.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: I like it that it's that it's even I think

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01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 22: the only only certainty is that Wales remain terrible, and

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01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 22: I say France gave them a hiding this morning. I

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01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 22: like the fact that Scotland and England and there's a

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01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 22: bit of jeopardy around. Was that twelve straight wins for

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01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 22: England before that. Are Scotland good?

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01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: Not sure.

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Speaker 22: I just think maybe they're all coming back to the

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01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 22: pack and France will probably want it at the end.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what's interesting good atmosphere in Mike at Edinburgh?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, a couple of couple of things, a lot of

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01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 21: kicking and we saw a couple of Super games a

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01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 21: lot of kicking which I think bars fans to tears. Anyway,

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01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 21: that might change. And also I think England confirmation again.

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01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 21: I think the All Blacks made England look pretty good

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01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 21: in that November game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what you've got to watch this week Wednesday Thursday

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01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 2: Friday is the second round of F one testing the gap.

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01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 2: So you've seen Max's comments over the weekends like Formula

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01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 2: EE on steroids, Lewis doesn't like the rules, so you've

1401
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 2: already got two major drivers hating on it. And the

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01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 2: gap between first and last at the moment is four

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01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 2: or five.

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01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 21: Seconds, which is a wide margin.

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01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,919
Speaker 2: It's I mean, at its peak last year you could

1406
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: get the top ten within two tenths. So what they're

1407
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 2: saying is that this doesn't change. Next week ahead of

1408
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 2: Melbourne you could have cars lapped four or five times

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01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 2: in a race.

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01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 21: The sound the sound has changed, isn't it sounded?

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01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 21: It sounds like it's screaming and fighting again in itself.

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01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 21: And then you've got the battery sort of wine as well.

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01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 2: You've got the battery wine, but more importantly, and this

1415
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: is getting into the weeds a little bit, but you

1416
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 2: regen through the gearing, not the brakes, and so Red

1417
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 2: Bull have allegedly got something going on with first gear

1418
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 2: that allows them to use first gear more often. In

1419
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 2: using first gear more often, you create more regen. If

1420
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 2: you've got more region, you've got more power, and so

1421
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 2: it's got the potential either to be brilliant or a

1422
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,480
Speaker 2: complete disaster.

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01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 21: And therefore, have you been using first gear? Having watched

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01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 21: the cockpit videos, have you been using first gear more?

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01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 21: As you're raw out of the building at nine oh one, do.

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01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: You know what I was in first gear yesterday? It's

1427
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 2: taking a car for a bit of a drive around

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01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: the neighborhood and I'm full of speed bumps, you know,

1429
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: those humps in the road. I've got to get my

1430
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: car down to first gear on those humps, and so

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01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: I dropped down the first gun off the back of

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01:08:59,280 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 2: the hump.

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01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 21: What were you doing taking a drive around the neighborhood.

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01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: Well, just to get it, just to get the car

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01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: out and lubricated, because you don't want cars sitting there

1436
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 2: too often, you know, without being used, and so I

1437
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,440
Speaker 2: have to get out there and whip around the neighborhood.

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01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 21: Is it a model tea or something?

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01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 2: Nope, No, it's not a model tea anyway. The point

1440
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: being if one could watch the coverages three days and

1441
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 2: unless they can get it right, I don't know what

1442
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 2: happens to the season, it's going to be amazing to watch.

1443
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 2: But what I did watch? You know what else I watched,

1444
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 2: Jason that I suspect you didn't.

1445
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,799
Speaker 22: Well, I was going to say sale GP, which I'm assumer.

1446
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 22: We'll get to it some stage. But what was there

1447
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 22: some pre season infl On or.

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01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 2: Something like that, Bethhurst twelve hour go on. These are

1449
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,839
Speaker 2: million dollar sports cars. GT's right. So you had Ferraris

1450
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 2: and Porsches and McLaren's and Astons and stuff like that.

1451
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 2: The carnage on the mountain yesterday you had to see

1452
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,879
Speaker 2: it to believe it. There were like cars smacking into walls,

1453
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: they were being fires were being put out. It was unbelievable.

1454
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 22: See it's interesting, isn't it that the that the viewing

1455
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 22: experience is enhanced by crashes, by you know, by coming

1456
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 22: together of cars and inanimate objects and things. And that's

1457
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 22: I don't mean to transition as to sail GP, but

1458
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 22: it is a nice little analogy. That's the Yeah, well

1459
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 22: that I think watching, you know, watching high speed extreme

1460
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 22: sport is what sle GP is. And I don't know

1461
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 22: about you guys, but when they split the fleet yesterday,

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01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 22: it just didn't have the same excitement, did it. It

1463
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 22: didn't have what you know, when they put thirteen boats

1464
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 22: out there on Saturday. Goodness me, it was incredibly exciting

1465
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 22: to watch. Yes, we knew what when what happened with

1466
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 22: the black foils and France coming together and the safety aspect,

1467
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 22: and I heard Professor Mark Goorrim talk about it earlier,

1468
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 22: Mike with you it has to be paramount, But the

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01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 22: viewing experience is so diluted when you take boats off

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01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 22: the course of the mountains.

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Speaker 21: The right noises are being made at the moment right

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01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 21: after the accident, which is fair call. But I'd be

1473
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,839
Speaker 21: very surprised if they split the fleet the whole season

1474
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 21: or next season, Lord, because that's part of the next

1475
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 21: season the fleet.

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01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 2: There is any point, Yeah, there's going to be a point.

1477
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 2: There's too many people in the field, and it just

1478
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 2: looks ridiculous that there's that issue. But yeah, splitting the feet,

1479
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 2: it's not the same because the whole thing's a crapshoot.

1480
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 2: In any given race, if you think about it, and

1481
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 2: if you happen to be in the right race or

1482
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 2: the wrong race, whatever the case may be, you may

1483
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: or may not win, depending on the circumstances. And that's

1484
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 2: not what it's about.

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01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 21: Doesn't it prove again, number one, how exciting foiling boats are, expertinly,

1486
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 21: how hard, how hard they out of control, and how

1487
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 21: good these sailors are generally.

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01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. It's lovely to catch up with you guys.

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01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 2: We'll see you next Monday. Andrew Sevil Jason Plan eight

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Speaker 2: twenty two.

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Speaker 2: beside you on the rugby picture in the gun, boots

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Speaker 2: on the farm, investing in the local communities nationwide. Why

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Speaker 2: because it's the key we weigh and that's the Bailey's

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Speaker 2: way back by a national network strategic international partnerships in

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Speaker 2: there as well. That gives their clients the cutting edge.

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Speaker 2: People are at the forefront of everything they do and

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Speaker 2: Bailey's very, very proud to support New Zealanders to achieve

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Speaker 2: the property goals. So they've done real estate differently for

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Speaker 2: half a century now. So how is the question, can

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Speaker 2: Bailees altogether better approach help you? Licensed under the RAAAC

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Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, you go to Baileys dot co

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Speaker 2: dot NZ to learn more. Like the biggest concern and

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Speaker 2: f one is the starts. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 2: the biggest, but it's one of a number and it's

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Speaker 2: the once again, it's the batteries, it's the region, it's

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01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 2: the holding the energy on the start line for up

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Speaker 2: to ten seconds, it's the leasing the whole thing, if

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Speaker 2: you get I mean, it's like anything. I suppose your

1519
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 2: first three days they had a bit of a shakedown

1520
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 2: in Barcelona, but they've gone to bar Rain three days.

1521
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 2: Some have got a lot of laps and others haven't.

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Speaker 2: They all argue that there's a consistency there that they

1523
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 2: kind of like the other big thing that's going on

1524
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Speaker 2: at the moment. No one wants to be favorite. Everyone

1525
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 2: says George is the favorite, is going to win? George

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01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 2: Goes no no, no, Red Bull are the favorite, bi

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01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: A Miles so Aga, no no, Look at Ferrari, they're

1528
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 2: the favorites. And so there's a bit of that going on.

1529
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 2: There's always politics and that one. So we stand by

1530
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 2: for Melbourne in a couple of weeks. News is next

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01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 2: and we'll cross the Tasman to Stephen. A couple of

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Speaker 2: new poles for you this morning in.

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Speaker 1: OZ Opinionated, Informed, unapologetic, If the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Bailey's real Estate all together better across residential, commercial and

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Speaker 1: rural news, togs dead be like.

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Speaker 2: I see the Greens Tamoth of Paul on the news

1537
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 2: and Hero on the radio chastising Wellington Water and Viola

1538
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,759
Speaker 2: for the disaster at MOA Point, but no one's questioned

1539
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 2: her about her role at WCC. I'm glad you rat that, Mike.

1540
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 2: Why does Tam of the Pool think we want to

1541
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 2: hear from her? She's the one who voted for cycle

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01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 2: ways If you're not up on the story, and I

1543
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: was watching the same thing over the weekend and I

1544
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 2: assumed everyone was up with Tam of the Pool and

1545
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 2: the hypocrisy of her commenting on the Mawa Point scenario

1546
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: given her background. But if you're not aware of it,

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01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 2: I'll come back to it. In the moment, twenty three

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Speaker 2: minutes away from.

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Speaker 12: Nine International correspondence with ends in eye insurance, peace of

1550
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 12: mind for New Zealand business, I'm.

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01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 2: Going to trail your our mate, Steve twice morning. Hello,

1552
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: Dow numbers weren't even close when and when it came

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01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 2: down to.

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Speaker 10: It, No, it's thirty four to seventeen. Angus Taylor smashed

1555
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 10: Susan Lee out of the park and then she delivered

1556
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 10: what's probably the worst news for Angus Tators she's had

1557
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 10: decided that after twenty five years in Parliament that she's

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01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 10: going to quit. So that creates a by election in

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01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 10: a place or a seat called Farah, which is in

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01:14:54,680 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 10: southern New South Wales. Wow, it's where of Sydney, based

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01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 10: around Golden really all that territory between there and Canberra,

1562
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 10: the seats held by Susan Lee. She's won the election

1563
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 10: there seven times, but the margin now has only six percent.

1564
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 10: So why am I going on about that? Well, this

1565
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 10: is going to be a real test. The by election

1566
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 10: will come reasonably quickly and every man and his dog

1567
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 10: is going to have a dog in the fight, including

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01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 10: one nation. They're down there already trying to find themselves

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01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 10: a candidate. Obviously the Libs will stand a candidate. There's

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01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,839
Speaker 10: a couple of really well known independents who could probably

1571
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 10: almost grab that seat. Labor won't stand and so this

1572
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 10: is going to be a big test. I mean, if

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01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 10: the Liberals are to lose that seat, well then you

1574
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 10: go to the next election with them campaigning on the

1575
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 10: fact that Angus Taylor can't even win his first election.

1576
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 10: So that's the politics of it, and Labor's going to

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01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 10: play dirty here. There's no doubt about that. So what

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01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 10: they did within I think twenty minutes of Angus Taylor winning,

1579
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 10: they dumped an ad attacking him about what he'd done

1580
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 10: during the last election federal election campaign. He was Treasury

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01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 10: spokesman for the Liberal Party at that time and he

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01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 10: and Jane Hume, who is his new deputy day with

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01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 10: the ones in charge of economic policy, and they got

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01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 10: smashed at the pole. So he's got a massive challenge

1585
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 10: in front of him.

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01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 15: Now.

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Speaker 2: I know there's a poll out this morning. I know

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Speaker 2: there's two poles, the Victoria when I'll come to him

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01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 2: just a couple of moments. But the other poll out

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01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 2: nationally this morning has got one nation on twenty three,

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01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 2: which is equal to the Coalition which is behind thirty

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01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 2: two in labor. So when one nation that gets to

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01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 2: a point, doesn't it where in people's minds? One nation

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01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: which was once fringish becomes legit and I just wonder

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01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 2: if they're there now.

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Speaker 10: The problem with that is our preferential voting system. I mean,

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01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,799
Speaker 10: so you can tell a post that you think Pauling

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01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 10: Hanson's fantastic because she wants to limit immigration to Australia

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01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 10: and a number of other policies, not many of which

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01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 10: have been released, but she says she will release them.

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01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 10: But then the preference flow on from that, and it

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01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 10: is rather complicated. Don't necessarily go in one direction. So

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01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 10: you might have a former Labor a voter who thinks

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01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,919
Speaker 10: Pauline Hanson's right on migration, and so they vote for Pauline,

1605
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 10: but the number two, the box they tick on the

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01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 10: ticket is Labor, so they don't necessarily all flow to

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01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 10: either the National Party or the Liberal Party, and so

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01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 10: it just really creates a very uncertain mess in that area.

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01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 10: And I don't think anyone thinks Pauline Hanson's ever going

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01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:34,799
Speaker 10: to be Prime minister. What she will probably achieve though

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01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 10: with the recruitment of Barnaby Joyce is now going to

1612
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 10: stand as a Senator for New South Wales, she could

1613
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 10: very much hold the balance of power in the Upper House.

1614
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Speaker 2: Wow Taylor's deputies, Jane Hume, your assessment on Friday of

1615
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 2: their presentation and presence to the people of Australia. Did

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01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 2: they handle it well?

1617
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 10: Angus was very nervous, I thought, and showed that. I

1618
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 10: think when he talked about from a poll point of view,

1619
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 10: wasn't too bad. But He's just not one of those

1620
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 10: you know, you picked them out when someone you think

1621
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 10: can be a leader and you can say Roder, that

1622
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 10: person's great. He was a bit, yeah, he was a

1623
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 10: bit all over the place. I mean, obviously he was

1624
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 10: clearly nervous. But look, there's a long time to the

1625
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 10: next election. He's going to address so right wing think

1626
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 10: tank tonight about some of his policies. We'll see what

1627
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 10: comes out of that. And we've got a couple of

1628
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 10: elections coming up which is going to really show what

1629
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,799
Speaker 10: the mood of Australia is. In the South Australian election,

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01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 10: which is on in a couple of.

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Speaker 2: Weeks, yeah, and the other one's Victoria, of course, which

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01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 2: is in the latter part of this year. You said

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01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 2: on the show the other day you had a suspicion

1634
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: that Labor would be re elected. So I'm looking at

1635
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 2: a poll that once again has Hanson at twenty one,

1636
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,799
Speaker 2: Labor at twenty three, two, Party preferred as in favor

1637
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 2: of the Coalition at fifty three forty seven. So if

1638
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 2: those numbers play out, how is it you think Labor

1639
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:00,799
Speaker 2: get re elected.

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01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 10: Sixteen seats are a hell of a lot of seats

1641
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 10: to win. Can they do it? Yes, they can, but

1642
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 10: I think there's going to be anger directed at the

1643
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 10: premier to Cinder Allen after all that corruption stuff. And

1644
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 10: I took about last week, so she might lose her

1645
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 10: own seat and Bendigo. It'll get very close. But I look,

1646
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 10: we've had you know, we've had fourteen years of labor

1647
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 10: in office in Victoria and we were locked down longer

1648
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 10: than anyone else in the world by Daniel Andrews. And

1649
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 10: the economy in this state and the increasing property taxes

1650
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 10: is just crippling, and yet people still voted them back

1651
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 10: in office last year. The election of Victoria was just

1652
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 10: last year, and so there is a rusted on support

1653
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 10: for labor because many of those voters rely on the

1654
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 10: government for their incomes. Public services exploded in numbers, and

1655
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 10: the union movement and the money that the union movement

1656
01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 10: throws toward laboring a state election is massive. Time yet

1657
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 10: to be convinced that the Liberal Party can win it.

1658
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 2: Let me give you some advice. You know that I

1659
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 2: can't remember what you're calling it, but within Victoria that

1660
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 2: that Indigenous People's group, that conference, that what you could write.

1661
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 2: So we discovered last week in this country that under

1662
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 2: the previous government. If you're MARI, you get leave, unlimited

1663
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 2: leave and no questions asked for cultural events. So just

1664
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 2: be aware of it because they'll be looking at a

1665
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 2: place like us. If you're not married, by the way,

1666
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 2: you don't get that you have to take and you'll leave.

1667
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 2: So they'll be looking at a place like us and go, well,

1668
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 2: hold on, that's a good system. We might do that.

1669
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 2: So the next thing you know, you're going to have

1670
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 2: Aboriginal people, Indigenous people in Melbourne going well, I need

1671
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 2: to go after this cultural event for the next three weeks,

1672
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 2: thanks very much. No one asks any questions. So that's

1673
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 2: unfortunately where you're headed.

1674
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 10: Two thousand percent that that will happen, and they keep

1675
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 10: a very close watch on Canada and New Zealand. Are

1676
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,799
Speaker 10: at a column at the weekend about this new elected

1677
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 10: body that is going to be a voice to the

1678
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 10: state Parliament. Will be thirty three people on this treaty board.

1679
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 10: They'll be elected only by the one percent of Victorians

1680
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 10: who are Indigenous. No one else can vote. They'll be

1681
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 10: on salaries of two hundred thousand dollars each and the

1682
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 10: co chairs of that outfit are going to be paid

1683
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 10: three hundred and ninety five thousand dollars each at an

1684
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,799
Speaker 10: annual wages bill of six million dollars.

1685
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 2: Right, so take that, take the state of the Melbourne economy.

1686
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 2: Then read the piece that we were talking about last week.

1687
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 2: This is Jeff Watson's corruption fifteen billion dollars to which

1688
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 2: Allen's overseen. Just tell me again how labor even are

1689
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 2: in the contest.

1690
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 10: Well, I've lived through it. You haven't, That's all I

1691
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 10: can say.

1692
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 2: All right, mate, Well we'll see you Wednesday. Appreciate it

1693
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 2: very much, Steve Price. It's inexplicable if you follow Victorian politics.

1694
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 2: Actually we must spend some time on Wednesday talking to

1695
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 2: him about the South Australian contest, which is even closer

1696
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 2: than the Victoria one eight forty five.

1697
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

1699
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 2: At B is Tammotha Paul. So she's on the news

1700
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 2: over the weekend and I'm thinking, why are we talking

1701
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 2: to her about Moya point. She was the one on

1702
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 2: the council. She's saying, oh, this is shocking, this is

1703
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 2: not good enough, and Nick has to resign, and he's

1704
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 2: resigned before the investigation. She was there through all of us.

1705
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 2: So we go back to May of twenty one and

1706
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,679
Speaker 2: the water option number three is up for a vote,

1707
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 2: three hundred and ninety one million waste water renewals for

1708
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 2: MOA point. She votes against it. They vote for a

1709
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 2: one forty seven million dollar treatment, so they could have

1710
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 2: gone three nine to one, they went for one four seven.

1711
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 2: At the same meeting, she then moves an amendment to

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Speaker 2: increase cycleway spending from one twenty to two twenty six

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Speaker 2: million one twitty. Let's call that almost double double the

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Speaker 2: amount of money on cycle ways, while at the same

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Speaker 2: time not spending as much as they needed to spend

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Speaker 2: on MOA point. The vote on the cycle ways passed

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Speaker 2: nine to five. So why are they interviewing a woman

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Speaker 2: who was at least in part instrumental in the lack

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Speaker 2: of infrastructural investment in that particular part of the world,

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Speaker 2: while at the same time building get more cyclist. It's

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01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 2: the weirdest think. Meantime, back at the Labor Party, there's

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01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 2: a newsroom had this one, and well done to them

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01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 2: for it. But Paul Eagle, former city councilor, former Labor

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Speaker 2: MP mayoral aspirant who came? What would he come? Was

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01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 2: it third or eighteenth or wherever it was he came?

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01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 2: Nowhere next stop Chatham Islands. He's the chief executive in

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Speaker 2: the Chatteram Islands until he's not. Why isn't he Well?

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Speaker 2: There are some persistent questions over the more than five

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars of public money spent to refurbish his house,

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Speaker 2: including the premium German engineered French freezer. He agreed quote

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Speaker 2: unquote to resign. The Council is cooperating with the Office

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Speaker 2: of the Order to General's review of sensitive expenditure and

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01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 2: procurement at the Council, and work is underway to strengthen

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01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 2: internal controls, financial management and procurement process. No kidding now,

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01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 2: of course the upside is that the chattermisand of course

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Speaker 2: as flush and they can afford all this. Hold on, No,

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Speaker 2: they're not. They're less than flush. They've got no money.

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Speaker 2: The auditor yvon Yang flagged issues with Eagle not paying

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01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 2: rent for the first ten months when the Council put

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01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 2: them up in temporary accommodation pending the completion of the

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01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: refurbishments of the council owned house. Then a three hundred

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01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 2: thousand dollar government grant was reassigned to cover increased costs

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01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 2: without prior approval from the Crown, meaning the near bankrupt

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01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: council had to advance the money, leaving it further out

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01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 2: of pocket. The community can't renew and maintain its infrastructure

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01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 2: through rates. They get an annual four point two million

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01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 2: dollar internal affairs grant that provides the bulk of the

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01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: Council's revenue. About five million a year from New Zealand

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01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 2: Transport Agency, community grants for social services, ad hoc grants

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01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 2: like the thirty five million for the new boat, the

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01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,600
Speaker 2: thirty six million to length in the airport runway, the

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01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,520
Speaker 2: ten and a half million for the new wind turbines,

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01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 2: some of the money from Shane Jones' Provincial Development Fund. Meantime,

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01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,600
Speaker 2: while Paul sitting there in the hotel waiting for his

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01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 2: German fridge to be installed at our expense, and you

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01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 2: wonder why the country is the way it is. Nine

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Speaker 2: away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The make Husking breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news talks.

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Speaker 2: Do we need another red Kiwi fruit? I mean, I'm

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01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,759
Speaker 2: a fan of Kiwi fruit, Don't get me wrong, Green, yellow, red,

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01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 2: all that stuff and the Kiwi fruits going gangbusters. But

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Speaker 2: do you know there are now twenty varieties of Kiwi

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01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 2: fruit Kiwi berry in pre commercial trials. Twenty Where are they?

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Speaker 11: Where are they get them into shops? I'm sick of

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01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 11: all this hard Italian stuff.

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Speaker 2: Even get a nine threat, absolutely shocking.

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Speaker 11: And how can they say product of Italy or New

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01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 11: Zealand that's do.

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Speaker 2: You remember when we had Jason Yes on the program. Yeah, yes,

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01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 2: it's wrong, and it's wrong. It's wrong. It's one hundred

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01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 2: percent wrong. Anyway, So they've got the ra the Red

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Speaker 2: eighty now, which they're putting into some sort of commercial applicator.

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Speaker 2: I mean obviously twenty varieties in trials and testing. I

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Speaker 2: mean they won't all make it, but they're putting the

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Speaker 2: Red eighty in. I can't work out what the difference

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Speaker 2: between the red and the Red eighty is. And I

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01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 2: just don't know. I just don't think we want to

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01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 2: confuse people. The red the ruby Red for the season

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01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 2: is going to be more than three million trays are

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Speaker 2: going to place like Singapore, Japan, China, Taiwan, South Korea, USA.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know that we want to confuse the

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Speaker 2: Kiwi fruit market with Red v Red eight or Red

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Speaker 2: eighty you know what I'm saying. Before you know, it'll

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Speaker 2: be read seventy six and the Red ninety nine and

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Speaker 2: then it's all over the place.

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Speaker 11: But as for that, it's a latest season, longest storing

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Speaker 11: one though the Red eighty, which I mean that might.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the the Italians designed to fill the gap

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01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 2: in the seasons, isn't it And it's not, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It's just upsetting people.

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Speaker 11: Can we get a purple one?

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01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 2: Maybe that'll be in trial five minutes away from nine.

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01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: Trending now we have chemist warehouse, stop paying too much now.

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Speaker 2: The problem with the Guthrie case in Arizona, which is

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01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,480
Speaker 2: many and varied, it's becoming worse by the day, sadly tragically,

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Speaker 2: is that every man and his dog and his cell

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01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 2: phone pretending to be a journalist has turned up and

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01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,759
Speaker 2: things are getting a bit angsty. So Elma Hernandez, who's

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Speaker 2: the rip for Arizona, is getting attention for telling the

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Speaker 2: Griffith Is to go home and stop making crap up.

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Speaker 20: What we're seeing in our community, in our city right

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Speaker 20: now is just not normal.

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Speaker 15: Right.

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Speaker 20: We have individuals who are calling themselves journalists who are

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Speaker 20: YouTubers and quite frankly, just really random individuals who are

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01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 20: out there with their cameras and live streaming causing more

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01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 20: harm than good. We've seen a rumors start that post

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01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,679
Speaker 20: individuals posting videos and pictures of people that have nothing

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01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 20: to do at all with anything in this case. You know,

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01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 20: they're trying to find anything at this point to stay

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Speaker 20: relevant and get the clicks on social media, and it's

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Speaker 20: extremely frustrating. You know, Oh, I'm following FBI. I'm on

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Speaker 20: the mission to go and find these individuals that they're

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01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 20: they're they're serving a war on and I just think

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01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 20: that's extremely inappropriate.

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Speaker 2: Correct And what Mike's it worse is CNN, who was

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Speaker 2: watching on Friday. Once again, this is not the first

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Speaker 2: time that interviewing TMZ, and they seem to you TMZ

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Speaker 2: every time TMZ gets a tip off, which is every

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Speaker 2: three and a half seconds, and it generally involves a

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Speaker 2: person who knows a person who knows a person who

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Speaker 2: for a bitcoin would give you the information that they

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01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 2: need and give you the breakthrough. And I'm thinking, why

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Speaker 2: is an allegedly established network interviewing TMZ about bits and

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01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 2: pieces that even they the TMZ guy's on here going Look, look,

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Speaker 2: I can't tell you whether this is real or not.

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Speaker 2: I can't tell you whether this guy's nuts or not,

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01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 2: but he is the latest into the newsroom, as though

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Speaker 2: that suddenly news.

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Speaker 11: I enjoyed Fox's coverage of no tent once it was

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Speaker 11: down and then a picture up in the corner of

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Speaker 11: when the tent was up from earlier.

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Speaker 2: Back Tomorrow, Happy Days.

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