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Speaker 1: the big issues, the big controversies and the big conversations.

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Speaker 2: Hello, you're a good afternoon. WelCom in a very warm

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Speaker 2: welcome and to the Sunday edition of Weekend Sport on

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Speaker 2: News Talks EDB. October twelfth, Happy thirty seventh birthday to

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Speaker 2: our most capped All Black Sam Whitelocke. Happy forty fourth

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Speaker 2: to another All Black's great, Conrad Smith. And it's Trevor

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Speaker 2: Chapel's birthdaday as well, seventy three Trevor Chapel. I'm Jason Pine.

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Speaker 2: The show is produced by Andy McDonald. We're going to

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Speaker 2: talk sport with you until three. It is Bathhurst one

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Speaker 2: thousand day, They're underweight and the Great Race at Mount

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Speaker 2: Panorama from one forty five this afternoon, New Zealand Time.

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Speaker 2: Well you there this hour to set the scene with

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Speaker 2: Eric Thompson and then provide updates once the race is underway.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Wood is the best of the Kei we's fourth

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Speaker 2: on the grid. Four other key we lead drivers involved

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Speaker 2: and Fabian Coultard as a co driver. Lots about Hurst

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Speaker 2: coverage for you this afternoon. Now, question for you, isn't

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Speaker 2: it time we brought back the Boxing Day Cricket Test?

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Speaker 2: Some very interesting comments across the Tasman this week. Osmond

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Speaker 2: Kawa jab the eighty four Test. Australian opening batsman reckons

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Speaker 2: cricket bosses over there should consider moving the Boxing Day

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Speaker 2: Test if that allows top Australian players to play in

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Speaker 2: the Big Bash every year. Australian cricket commentator Jim Maxwell

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Speaker 2: on that after one. But shouldn't we bring back our

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Speaker 2: own Boxing Day Test? Isn't it time to do that?

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Speaker 2: The first one nineteen ninety eight, had it for four

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Speaker 2: years and again in three then it took a break.

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Speaker 2: We played a bunch of white ball cricket on Boxing Day.

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Speaker 2: It came back in twenty fourteen, then again in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Last time we had it was twenty twenty at bay Oval.

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Speaker 2: Surely we have to find a way to revive the

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Speaker 2: Boxing Day Cricket Test. I want to kick that around

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Speaker 2: with you after one first up today though a joint

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Speaker 2: statement from eight international rugby unions, including our own, this

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Speaker 2: week warning players they will not be eligible for international

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Speaker 2: selection if they switch to the proposed Rugby three sixty League.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby's general manager of Professional Rugby and Performance,

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Speaker 2: Chris Landrum is standing by to chat with us on

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Speaker 2: that and then I'm keen to get your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: R three sixty. What are you hearing? What are your reading?

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Speaker 2: What are you seeing? Is it even a thing? And

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Speaker 2: if it does get off the ground, with the massive

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Speaker 2: exodus of our top players chasing those huge dollars that

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Speaker 2: sixty with you this hour, other matters around today all

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Speaker 2: Whit's defendive. Finn Sermon is on the show. They're in

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Speaker 2: locking horns with Arling Harland's free ski slope style and

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five Snow Sports New Zealand Athlete of

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Speaker 2: the Year. It was hardly a surprise. He has had

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Speaker 2: an exceptional year. He's in for a chat about it.

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Speaker 2: James mcconey as well with his regular Sunday offerings, but

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Speaker 2: a live sport while we're on the air this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: The bath is one thousand, obviously from one forty five

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Speaker 2: and the fourth and final Buddings MPC Quarterfinal kicks off

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Speaker 2: at five past two, Canterbury hosting counties Manico and christ Yurch.

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Speaker 2: Going to preview that one for you with our Goldsport

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Speaker 1: From breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason him News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: A rare joint statement from eight International rugby unions, including

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Speaker 2: want to work with the unions and that player welfare

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Speaker 2: Front and Italy have united in their opposition. The union said,

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Speaker 2: is Chris Landrum, who joins us now. Chris, thanks for

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Speaker 2: your time this afternoon. This of course, doesn't actually change

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Speaker 2: It's always been the case that you have to play

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Speaker 2: super rugby to play for the All Blacks. But were

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Speaker 2: you surprised that South Africa and Australia, who do select

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on again, mate, No, I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 3: I think when all the unions are looking at three

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Speaker 3: I think everybody's seeing threat at the moment and a

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Speaker 2: Could that threat over time become an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're open minded, right, but one of the challenges

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Speaker 3: feasible for them to release players? What are their plans,

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Speaker 3: particularly around women's rugby, because the release windows for international

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Speaker 3: until those get answered, it's impossible to know whether there's

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Speaker 3: we don't like talking about business models when we're talking

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Speaker 3: rugby as it's constructed globally now makes money and that

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Speaker 3: that's why you're seeing the national unions come.

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Speaker 2: Out the way we have so our three sixty's response

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Speaker 2: they should have that opportunity. Why would the unions stand

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Speaker 3: Well, from a New Zealand perspective, it's really clear, right,

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Speaker 3: We've always wanted our best players playing in our domestic competitions.

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Speaker 4: We have made the odd exception around.

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Speaker 3: Sabbaticals, haven't we piney and probably going to be your

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Speaker 3: next question, But the reality is those are in competitions

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Speaker 4: Our pathway.

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Speaker 2: But what about players who come off contract with you Galway,

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Speaker 3: Well, nothing's impossible, poney, But there's a big difference between

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Speaker 3: And at the moment, what we understand to be going

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Speaker 3: to play at R three sixteen, and that is those

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Speaker 3: They exist within the current rugby ecosystem, and that allows

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Speaker 3: And so we've shown some flexibility, we've shown open minds

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Speaker 3: Appears to be a step too far, mate, because the

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Speaker 2: Our three sixty say, and I guess you have to

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Speaker 2: how many of any of those are New Zealanders.

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Speaker 3: Well, what I can say is that weighing in R

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Speaker 3: three sixty is not something that's come up in any

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Speaker 3: Our players appear to be really excited by the calendar

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Speaker 3: of rugbed it's available if you're playing New Zealand over the.

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Speaker 4: Next four years.

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Speaker 3: It's not impossible that some have signed some free contract agreements.

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Speaker 5: By me, all I'd say is I really hope the.

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Speaker 3: Players and agents are doing their illegal due diligence, that

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Speaker 3: they understand whether those agreements are binding or are on foot,

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Speaker 2: And this might not be a question for you, given

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Speaker 2: that you're concern as current players, But do you think

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Speaker 2: Zealand Rugby then a head off shore and this has

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Speaker 2: happened most regularly to Japan to end their careers, do

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Speaker 2: you think those sorts of players would be tempted by

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Speaker 3: Oh, look, I'm sure there's temptation there because the sorts

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Speaker 3: but nobody really knows whether they're real, or how they

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Speaker 3: it's essentially a traveling roadshow and there's a huge, huge

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Speaker 3: cost involved in putting on a competition of that order,

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Speaker 3: And it may well be that the principles and the

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Speaker 3: I understand the temptation. I think what the national unions

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Speaker 3: with R three sixty, is that players have got a choice,

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Speaker 3: and indeed, even the competition still needs to be sanctioned

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Speaker 6: Probably now.

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Speaker 3: Will it get up?

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Speaker 2: Chris, Thank you for clarifying New Zealand Rugby's viewpoints so eloquently.

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Speaker 4: Call, Beshore Pioneer.

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Speaker 2: Nice to chat, Nice to debt to you too, Chris.

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Speaker 2: Chris LENDERM, New Zealand Rugby's general manager of a Professional

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Speaker 2: Lendrum made New Zealand Rugby's view pretty clear there, and

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Speaker 2: The fact that South Africa and Australia in particular have

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Speaker 7: Yeah. And finally, I think your idea, if it has

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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, at the end of this year.

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Speaker 4: Goodness me.

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Speaker 7: I mean, for a start, I think, I mean I

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Speaker 2: So that's and that last sentence there, grunt is the

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Speaker 2: as far as New Zealand is concerned. Guys leave at

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Speaker 2: the end of their careers, normally after a World Cup,

432
00:26:33,307 --> 00:26:35,827
Speaker 2: and go and get one or two more contracts elsewhere,

433
00:26:36,027 --> 00:26:40,427
Speaker 2: usually in Japan. If they've got no desire or intention

434
00:26:40,827 --> 00:26:42,867
Speaker 2: or realistic prospect of coming back to play for the

435
00:26:42,907 --> 00:26:44,867
Speaker 2: All blacks. Then why wouldn't you look at all the

436
00:26:44,867 --> 00:26:47,827
Speaker 2: different options and if R three sixties the best one,

437
00:26:47,867 --> 00:26:51,747
Speaker 2: money was take it. But I'm just keen to know

438
00:26:51,787 --> 00:26:54,467
Speaker 2: if it's a thing. Twenty six to one people. We'll

439
00:26:54,467 --> 00:26:55,787
Speaker 2: talk a bit more about this after the break. Oh,

440
00:26:55,787 --> 00:26:57,507
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty spear line for you

441
00:26:57,547 --> 00:26:58,107
Speaker 2: to jump aboard.

442
00:26:58,827 --> 00:27:00,667
Speaker 4: It's more than just a game.

443
00:27:00,987 --> 00:27:05,147
Speaker 1: We can sport with Jason Kine and GJ. Cunnomes, New

444
00:27:05,227 --> 00:27:06,787
Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted her and builder.

445
00:27:06,947 --> 00:27:07,547
Speaker 4: News Talks, The.

446
00:27:08,387 --> 00:27:09,867
Speaker 2: News talks they be We'll get you to bath first

447
00:27:09,947 --> 00:27:11,947
Speaker 2: before one. It's twenty three to one. Back to the

448
00:27:11,947 --> 00:27:14,027
Speaker 2: lines in a minute. Ohent On text, don't underestimate the

449
00:27:14,027 --> 00:27:17,747
Speaker 2: power of the dollar. IPL has changed world cricket forever.

450
00:27:18,187 --> 00:27:20,827
Speaker 2: The Saudi Premier League is attracting many great footballers now

451
00:27:20,827 --> 00:27:22,347
Speaker 2: for big money. Oh and the only thing I would

452
00:27:22,347 --> 00:27:24,387
Speaker 2: say about those two competitions compared to this one is

453
00:27:24,427 --> 00:27:29,027
Speaker 2: that the governing bodies of football and cricket have haven't

454
00:27:29,867 --> 00:27:33,947
Speaker 2: stipulated that you can't play for them if you play

455
00:27:33,947 --> 00:27:37,307
Speaker 2: in those competitions. I mean, cricket has had to embrace it,

456
00:27:37,347 --> 00:27:40,987
Speaker 2: hasn't it. And look, maybe there is a time down

457
00:27:41,067 --> 00:27:44,227
Speaker 2: the line where where Rugby where R three sixty is

458
00:27:44,347 --> 00:27:49,467
Speaker 2: like the ipl that the balance of power tips and

459
00:27:49,547 --> 00:27:53,227
Speaker 2: it becomes so popular that those eight unions have to

460
00:27:53,987 --> 00:27:58,707
Speaker 2: walk back their stance. It's possible. It doesn't feel the

461
00:27:58,707 --> 00:28:02,627
Speaker 2: most likely, but it's possible. And just before we go

462
00:28:02,667 --> 00:28:08,467
Speaker 2: the lines, another text here from from not I've read

463
00:28:08,507 --> 00:28:09,627
Speaker 2: that one, or read so I don't have to read it.

464
00:28:09,627 --> 00:28:11,387
Speaker 2: I can go straight to you, Paul, how are you mate?

465
00:28:12,427 --> 00:28:15,427
Speaker 9: Okay, finey, Yeah, I think you're right done. Underestimate the

466
00:28:15,467 --> 00:28:20,747
Speaker 9: power of money, piney. I mean, I've got no doubt

467
00:28:21,187 --> 00:28:23,827
Speaker 9: that there are a lot of players looking at R

468
00:28:23,867 --> 00:28:26,667
Speaker 9: three sixteen and watching, wait and see how it unfolds.

469
00:28:27,347 --> 00:28:29,867
Speaker 9: And should it get off the ground, you've got to

470
00:28:29,907 --> 00:28:33,307
Speaker 9: realize that. You know, you've seen, like you mentioned all

471
00:28:33,347 --> 00:28:35,987
Speaker 9: Blacks that have gone taking the money out of seas

472
00:28:36,787 --> 00:28:39,747
Speaker 9: who have already played for the All Blacks or whatever.

473
00:28:39,827 --> 00:28:43,547
Speaker 9: But I think if this keeps off the ground, I'm

474
00:28:43,547 --> 00:28:45,907
Speaker 9: thinking of Pacific Island players in particular, because a lot

475
00:28:45,947 --> 00:28:48,267
Speaker 9: of them come from nothing, and if you know, New

476
00:28:48,347 --> 00:28:52,307
Speaker 9: Zealand Rugby have had their had their they've had the fortunate,

477
00:28:53,707 --> 00:28:57,387
Speaker 9: fortunate circumstance to basically pick and choose a huge amount

478
00:28:57,387 --> 00:28:59,907
Speaker 9: of Pacific players to the detriment of the island nations

479
00:29:00,267 --> 00:29:03,547
Speaker 9: which are struggling. Now, those island nations, those island players

480
00:29:03,587 --> 00:29:05,467
Speaker 9: that are in New Zealand coming through it, I'll be

481
00:29:05,467 --> 00:29:08,307
Speaker 9: looking at R three six and unfortunately, you know, the

482
00:29:08,307 --> 00:29:10,707
Speaker 9: All Blacks, the war or the prestige of it has

483
00:29:10,747 --> 00:29:12,947
Speaker 9: diminished because there are all of those who get called

484
00:29:12,947 --> 00:29:14,907
Speaker 9: into the All Blacks or through the system, they might

485
00:29:14,947 --> 00:29:17,667
Speaker 9: play one test and need their cast aside. So if

486
00:29:17,667 --> 00:29:20,187
Speaker 9: you're super rugby players or EBC whatever, they'll be looking

487
00:29:20,227 --> 00:29:22,987
Speaker 9: at US three sixty. I think from no money with

488
00:29:23,107 --> 00:29:25,867
Speaker 9: port family Balby thinking this is my chance, this is

489
00:29:25,907 --> 00:29:28,587
Speaker 9: my opportunity, and trust me, they'll take the money mate,

490
00:29:28,627 --> 00:29:29,627
Speaker 9: every day.

491
00:29:29,747 --> 00:29:31,827
Speaker 2: Absolutely well. And it's the right it's the right thing

492
00:29:31,867 --> 00:29:34,067
Speaker 2: to do. You're right, you know, Fiji Sama tong I

493
00:29:34,107 --> 00:29:36,787
Speaker 2: haven't co signed this statement with the big and for

494
00:29:36,867 --> 00:29:40,107
Speaker 2: many of those players this might be. This might be

495
00:29:40,147 --> 00:29:42,427
Speaker 2: a very very good thing for those unions. If the

496
00:29:42,427 --> 00:29:45,507
Speaker 2: Fijian national team can can pick players who are playing

497
00:29:45,547 --> 00:29:48,707
Speaker 2: in R three sixty, which they will, and those players

498
00:29:48,707 --> 00:29:51,747
Speaker 2: are exposed to a very good, you know, level of

499
00:29:51,787 --> 00:29:54,347
Speaker 2: rugby and can make that living from it. Then I

500
00:29:54,347 --> 00:29:55,867
Speaker 2: think that could be a really good thing for the

501
00:29:55,867 --> 00:29:56,547
Speaker 2: Island nations.

502
00:29:56,627 --> 00:30:00,147
Speaker 9: Yeah absolutely, I mean what has the IRB or New

503
00:30:00,227 --> 00:30:03,227
Speaker 9: Zealand Rugby Union done for the Pacific Nations? And yes,

504
00:30:03,267 --> 00:30:05,147
Speaker 9: people will say, oh you know that they were, they were,

505
00:30:05,307 --> 00:30:07,507
Speaker 9: they will come through us this and you know, and whatever,

506
00:30:07,987 --> 00:30:09,747
Speaker 9: have you picked the eyes out of them? They've let

507
00:30:09,907 --> 00:30:11,987
Speaker 9: let them. I mean, from what I'm hearing, some has

508
00:30:12,067 --> 00:30:14,627
Speaker 9: to qualify to be in the next World Cup. They're

509
00:30:14,667 --> 00:30:18,227
Speaker 9: basically gone backwards. So this is an opportunity for particularly

510
00:30:18,227 --> 00:30:19,667
Speaker 9: those are and we all know that they're the best

511
00:30:19,787 --> 00:30:23,147
Speaker 9: athletes out there, the Pacific Island players. So you know,

512
00:30:23,147 --> 00:30:25,987
Speaker 9: it just keeps off the ground. You know, it's going

513
00:30:26,027 --> 00:30:28,827
Speaker 9: to change the whole landscape made. And you know, as

514
00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:32,347
Speaker 9: far as the NRL players go, you know, guys like

515
00:30:32,387 --> 00:30:34,787
Speaker 9: paying half in there. You know it'll be I'd be

516
00:30:34,827 --> 00:30:37,507
Speaker 9: devastated a paying half win. But you couldn't blame them.

517
00:30:37,547 --> 00:30:40,827
Speaker 9: They're throwing it sort of money at them. But then again,

518
00:30:40,867 --> 00:30:43,587
Speaker 9: you know, does he want to or players like him

519
00:30:43,627 --> 00:30:45,627
Speaker 9: do they do? They want to be going from country

520
00:30:45,667 --> 00:30:48,827
Speaker 9: to country playing there a traveling circus on a corn

521
00:30:48,827 --> 00:30:51,547
Speaker 9: flex competition on YouTube. You know that it all comes

522
00:30:51,587 --> 00:30:55,147
Speaker 9: down to that again. You know where they won't be

523
00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:57,067
Speaker 9: there won't be a lead athletes, but they currently are

524
00:30:57,267 --> 00:31:00,427
Speaker 9: in the n r L. So yeah, there's a lot

525
00:31:00,467 --> 00:31:01,427
Speaker 9: to unfold, mate.

526
00:31:01,947 --> 00:31:04,027
Speaker 2: I saw the NRL's response and you probably show it

527
00:31:04,067 --> 00:31:05,747
Speaker 2: as well, Paul, being the big league fan that you are.

528
00:31:05,987 --> 00:31:09,947
Speaker 2: They they said that they, you know, would impose sanctions

529
00:31:09,947 --> 00:31:12,547
Speaker 2: on anybody who went to our three sixty, but they

530
00:31:12,547 --> 00:31:14,987
Speaker 2: didn't really say what those sanctions were. I mean, it's

531
00:31:14,987 --> 00:31:17,747
Speaker 2: no look at league's not the same as rugby, isn't it.

532
00:31:17,827 --> 00:31:19,827
Speaker 2: You said, if you said to those league players, okay, hey,

533
00:31:19,827 --> 00:31:21,427
Speaker 2: well if you go you can't play for Australia, they

534
00:31:21,467 --> 00:31:23,907
Speaker 2: probably shrug their shoulder and say, okay, well that doesn't

535
00:31:23,907 --> 00:31:26,987
Speaker 2: really matter. They also talk perhaps about if you go

536
00:31:27,107 --> 00:31:30,187
Speaker 2: you can't come back. So if you go to R

537
00:31:30,227 --> 00:31:33,267
Speaker 2: three sixty, the door back to the NRL has closed

538
00:31:33,307 --> 00:31:35,227
Speaker 2: for you. Whether they could enforce it or not, I

539
00:31:35,267 --> 00:31:38,147
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, that's the only one really, or origins

540
00:31:38,187 --> 00:31:39,547
Speaker 2: the other one, isn't it, because there's a there's a

541
00:31:39,587 --> 00:31:41,187
Speaker 2: huge carard of playing origin over there.

542
00:31:42,307 --> 00:31:42,507
Speaker 3: Yeah.

543
00:31:42,547 --> 00:31:44,667
Speaker 9: But to be honest, you know, these players like the

544
00:31:44,747 --> 00:31:47,907
Speaker 9: lomechs Zech Lomex or Eppenhouse.

545
00:31:47,947 --> 00:31:48,067
Speaker 7: You know.

546
00:31:48,147 --> 00:31:50,947
Speaker 9: See you go to three sixty and you know whatever,

547
00:31:51,587 --> 00:31:53,987
Speaker 9: who cares? But guys like paying Hearts and Nathan clearly

548
00:31:54,027 --> 00:31:56,547
Speaker 9: know those. They'll be devastated. But I do know that

549
00:31:56,587 --> 00:31:59,187
Speaker 9: the the NRL Velina is just no mark and they

550
00:31:59,747 --> 00:32:02,827
Speaker 9: have a special Wachist fund built without that, you know,

551
00:32:02,987 --> 00:32:06,267
Speaker 9: to keep huge high profile players like Reese Walsh and

552
00:32:07,387 --> 00:32:09,667
Speaker 9: in our game mates. So I don't believe gets or

553
00:32:09,667 --> 00:32:11,827
Speaker 9: worry mate. We all know the ships of talent coming

554
00:32:11,907 --> 00:32:14,187
Speaker 9: through there. But I think rugby, especially in New Zealand

555
00:32:14,867 --> 00:32:17,907
Speaker 9: in Australia with a specific island players, that's where a

556
00:32:17,947 --> 00:32:19,347
Speaker 9: lot of the damage is going to come through and

557
00:32:19,387 --> 00:32:19,987
Speaker 9: get off the ground.

558
00:32:20,067 --> 00:32:20,267
Speaker 5: Mate.

559
00:32:20,787 --> 00:32:23,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, salient point, very salient point, Paul. You'll watching whether

560
00:32:23,867 --> 00:32:25,907
Speaker 2: it's just as will I as will. We all good

561
00:32:25,947 --> 00:32:27,547
Speaker 2: to chat to you as always, mate, Thanks indeed for

562
00:32:27,587 --> 00:32:32,227
Speaker 2: the call. Saudi Arabia. That's indeed they are behind this

563
00:32:32,467 --> 00:32:34,947
Speaker 2: is this text. Are impatient. When they get inspired, they

564
00:32:35,027 --> 00:32:37,627
Speaker 2: want things to happen immediately, and they think money can

565
00:32:37,747 --> 00:32:41,787
Speaker 2: fix everything in their favor. And the text continues, Why

566
00:32:41,827 --> 00:32:44,067
Speaker 2: would Mike Tindall put his name to something that was fake.

567
00:32:44,307 --> 00:32:49,107
Speaker 2: I agree, why would he He's a He's a highly

568
00:32:49,267 --> 00:32:53,187
Speaker 2: credible name and probably a bit of a poster boy

569
00:32:53,227 --> 00:32:55,387
Speaker 2: if you like for this. And I would love to

570
00:32:55,427 --> 00:32:59,067
Speaker 2: hear more like I say. And he's been beavering away

571
00:32:59,227 --> 00:33:02,707
Speaker 2: trying to get somebody to chat to us. Hasn't happened yet.

572
00:33:02,707 --> 00:33:05,827
Speaker 2: Hopefully they will. Hopefully they will. People of a certain

573
00:33:05,867 --> 00:33:09,987
Speaker 2: age says, remember the Ferrari over the introduction of Kerry

574
00:33:10,067 --> 00:33:13,707
Speaker 2: Packer's Pajama Cricket game that transformed cricket grame. The only

575
00:33:13,747 --> 00:33:17,307
Speaker 2: difference I guess is that cricket wasn't professional back then.

576
00:33:18,707 --> 00:33:21,867
Speaker 2: That transformed cricket because it was an amateur game where

577
00:33:21,907 --> 00:33:27,067
Speaker 2: players basically couldn't earn anything for their labors. And you know,

578
00:33:27,187 --> 00:33:31,387
Speaker 2: the Kerry Packer into the World Series Cup, the colored clothing,

579
00:33:31,467 --> 00:33:33,907
Speaker 2: the white ball and everything. You're right, it did transform cricket,

580
00:33:34,227 --> 00:33:39,267
Speaker 2: just as T twenty cricket has. Look none of us

581
00:33:39,307 --> 00:33:41,307
Speaker 2: has got a crystal ball. We can't look down the

582
00:33:41,347 --> 00:33:43,987
Speaker 2: track and say that R three sixty will be the

583
00:33:44,067 --> 00:33:50,747
Speaker 2: rugby equivalent of IPL But we can't discount it, can

584
00:33:50,827 --> 00:33:53,907
Speaker 2: we We can't say that it will never happen. Back

585
00:33:53,947 --> 00:33:57,307
Speaker 2: when t twenty started. I don't think anybody could possibly

586
00:33:57,907 --> 00:34:00,507
Speaker 2: have envisaged the way that that would change the game,

587
00:34:00,787 --> 00:34:04,547
Speaker 2: and yet here we are seventeen away from one. We'll

588
00:34:04,547 --> 00:34:06,307
Speaker 2: take a come back and head to batheist Eric Tooms

589
00:34:06,387 --> 00:34:08,747
Speaker 2: and with a preview of this afternoon's great.

590
00:34:08,587 --> 00:34:13,467
Speaker 1: Race, the Tough Questions off the turf Weekend Sport with

591
00:34:13,667 --> 00:34:17,587
Speaker 1: Jason Pine and GJ. Gubnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home

592
00:34:17,667 --> 00:34:18,867
Speaker 1: builder News Dogs.

593
00:34:18,787 --> 00:34:22,027
Speaker 2: V twelve forty seven less than an hour till BATHOOST

594
00:34:22,067 --> 00:34:24,547
Speaker 2: one thousand gets underway for twenty twenty five. One forty

595
00:34:24,627 --> 00:34:28,267
Speaker 2: five is start time. Broddie Kisticky. We'll start from pole

596
00:34:28,387 --> 00:34:30,547
Speaker 2: for a third straight year after winning the top ten

597
00:34:30,627 --> 00:34:31,587
Speaker 2: shootout last night.

598
00:34:32,747 --> 00:34:36,307
Speaker 10: Another chase, He's got that thing stop it's packs number

599
00:34:36,307 --> 00:34:37,267
Speaker 10: attacks second.

600
00:34:37,027 --> 00:34:39,267
Speaker 11: Gear out on the other side on the gearshift.

601
00:34:39,307 --> 00:34:43,307
Speaker 2: That looks stable. Brodie's got to throw absolutely everything at this.

602
00:34:43,427 --> 00:34:45,107
Speaker 12: In the final quarter they.

603
00:34:45,107 --> 00:34:47,427
Speaker 11: Dare not blink in the respective garages.

604
00:34:47,787 --> 00:34:49,627
Speaker 2: Last corner out can number.

605
00:34:49,467 --> 00:34:52,347
Speaker 13: Thirty eight comes up to greet the line and the party.

606
00:34:52,467 --> 00:34:53,827
Speaker 2: Kisticky takes up.

607
00:34:57,027 --> 00:34:57,227
Speaker 14: Time.

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00:35:00,907 --> 00:35:06,987
Speaker 2: Done, honey, that is a mega lab and slon Mega

609
00:35:07,027 --> 00:35:12,987
Speaker 2: glass gats the field by over a tenth a half. Wow,

610
00:35:13,307 --> 00:35:16,507
Speaker 2: that is Brodie Kostek's running the top ten shootout. Ryan Wood,

611
00:35:16,667 --> 00:35:19,787
Speaker 2: in his first top ten shooto, was fourth, just four

612
00:35:19,867 --> 00:35:23,227
Speaker 2: tenths of a second behind Kostecki's time. The New Zealand

613
00:35:23,267 --> 00:35:26,507
Speaker 2: Herald's Eric Thompson is at Mount Panorama and as I

614
00:35:26,627 --> 00:35:29,827
Speaker 2: understand it, overlooking the start finish line, are you at

615
00:35:30,187 --> 00:35:31,267
Speaker 2: paint the picture for us?

616
00:35:32,267 --> 00:35:36,067
Speaker 15: Oh, mate, the air it's palpable that things are getting

617
00:35:36,107 --> 00:35:39,427
Speaker 15: underway and I can just watching them wheeling out all

618
00:35:39,467 --> 00:35:42,667
Speaker 15: the supercars. All the cars have been rolled out in

619
00:35:42,787 --> 00:35:45,707
Speaker 15: front of the pit garage and you can just feel it, Bunny,

620
00:35:45,747 --> 00:35:48,587
Speaker 15: the air has just changed. Something's just changed in the

621
00:35:48,667 --> 00:35:51,707
Speaker 15: atmosphere of everything in the crowds. Looking across at the crowds,

622
00:35:52,107 --> 00:35:55,867
Speaker 15: all the grandstands about three quarters full. People are filing in.

623
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Speaker 15: But it's the banks, all the grass banks along the

624
00:35:59,107 --> 00:36:02,867
Speaker 15: staff finished straight, ran mate. You couldn't get a maybe

625
00:36:02,867 --> 00:36:08,267
Speaker 15: be lucky to get a match box in there. And

626
00:36:09,987 --> 00:36:11,867
Speaker 15: you can hear the whistles going because the drivers have

627
00:36:12,027 --> 00:36:15,307
Speaker 15: just finished their parade lap, all standing in the back

628
00:36:15,347 --> 00:36:17,347
Speaker 15: of the utes and bits and pieces like that, and

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Speaker 15: so they're all coming back into pedlant. I'm just looking

630
00:36:20,307 --> 00:36:23,427
Speaker 15: at a lot of the drivers. It's just Brady Stecky

631
00:36:23,507 --> 00:36:26,107
Speaker 15: and Dodd Hal's would have just pulled up, mate, looking

632
00:36:26,187 --> 00:36:30,667
Speaker 15: down on them now defending champion And as your audio said,

633
00:36:30,747 --> 00:36:32,827
Speaker 15: you know he did, you know I lapped for the

634
00:36:32,987 --> 00:36:36,147
Speaker 15: ages about the only way I could describe it, because

635
00:36:36,267 --> 00:36:39,667
Speaker 15: cam Walls has put in an absolute blast and mossed.

636
00:36:39,747 --> 00:36:43,067
Speaker 15: It went so hard and Ryan Wood got fourth. We

637
00:36:43,227 --> 00:36:44,987
Speaker 15: actually thought he might have been on for at least

638
00:36:45,787 --> 00:36:48,627
Speaker 15: you know, our front row staff, but everybody just pulled

639
00:36:48,627 --> 00:36:50,747
Speaker 15: it out of the bag. And I swear to god,

640
00:36:50,827 --> 00:36:52,547
Speaker 15: p only half the time those cars around the top

641
00:36:52,587 --> 00:36:54,627
Speaker 15: of the mountain, we're out of control and the drivers

642
00:36:54,667 --> 00:36:55,467
Speaker 15: were just passengers.

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00:36:56,507 --> 00:36:58,827
Speaker 2: How happy will Ryan would be with P four and

644
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Speaker 2: his first of a top ten shootout.

645
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Speaker 15: It's funny talking to him last night. He was a

646
00:37:03,867 --> 00:37:06,667
Speaker 15: bit he said, I'm a little bit gusted because he said,

647
00:37:06,707 --> 00:37:10,107
Speaker 15: he said, I made the tiny mistake across skyline and

648
00:37:10,227 --> 00:37:12,667
Speaker 15: he said, I just knew you can't afford to make

649
00:37:12,707 --> 00:37:14,907
Speaker 15: a mistake. Then he sort of you could see him

650
00:37:14,947 --> 00:37:17,347
Speaker 15: thinking about it, you know, like the wheels the cocks

651
00:37:17,387 --> 00:37:19,907
Speaker 15: turning in his mind, and he said well, actually, for

652
00:37:20,027 --> 00:37:23,467
Speaker 15: my first ever shoot out at Bathurst, I'm pretty happy

653
00:37:23,507 --> 00:37:25,987
Speaker 15: with four because the talent in that field, as the

654
00:37:26,067 --> 00:37:30,507
Speaker 15: listeners listeners will know, is pretty pretty good. So he

655
00:37:31,227 --> 00:37:33,067
Speaker 15: Young reflects and he said, yeah, we did a Yeah,

656
00:37:33,067 --> 00:37:35,187
Speaker 15: we did pretty good. Second row. You know you're on

657
00:37:35,267 --> 00:37:37,907
Speaker 15: the second row, and I reckon that sprint down to

658
00:37:38,787 --> 00:37:42,147
Speaker 15: hell corner, the ninety degree left before you climb up

659
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Speaker 15: the mountain. Finally, if you only you're going to watch

660
00:37:44,587 --> 00:37:47,347
Speaker 15: one lap, watch that one because all these guys will

661
00:37:47,347 --> 00:37:49,627
Speaker 15: be wanting to get their noses in front to head

662
00:37:49,707 --> 00:37:51,907
Speaker 15: up the mountain first and stay out of trouble.

663
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Speaker 2: The other can we drive us further back in the field.

664
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Speaker 2: Matt Payne eighteenth, andre Heimgartner nineteenth, Richie stand Away is

665
00:37:58,987 --> 00:38:01,667
Speaker 2: twenty third. Jackson he was twenty fourth. What will their

666
00:38:01,787 --> 00:38:03,387
Speaker 2: race strategy be et.

667
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Speaker 15: I reckon in the first four or five laps. Having

668
00:38:06,907 --> 00:38:09,907
Speaker 15: chatted to Matt, pain is really disappointed. But his car

669
00:38:10,427 --> 00:38:14,787
Speaker 15: just hasn't been right ever since Thursday. It just really hasn't.

670
00:38:14,827 --> 00:38:17,867
Speaker 15: There was a flash of brilliance while brilliance for him

671
00:38:19,147 --> 00:38:22,027
Speaker 15: his tenth quickst at one stage. But their thing will

672
00:38:22,067 --> 00:38:24,187
Speaker 15: be to stay out of trouble, you know, and just

673
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Speaker 15: not go too hard too soon, because everybody else would

674
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Speaker 15: be doing that. It's a long race, as we know,

675
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Speaker 15: it's a thousand kilometers, some sometimes called the world's longest

676
00:38:35,387 --> 00:38:39,627
Speaker 15: sprint race because they're basically but gone are the days

677
00:38:39,827 --> 00:38:42,027
Speaker 15: where drivers will be able to chill for a bit

678
00:38:42,147 --> 00:38:44,067
Speaker 15: for the first couple of hours, you know, make sure

679
00:38:44,107 --> 00:38:46,787
Speaker 15: the car is right, relax a bit down conrad straight.

680
00:38:46,907 --> 00:38:50,787
Speaker 15: Now it's just it's just the testicles to the wall

681
00:38:51,747 --> 00:38:53,507
Speaker 15: for a quie about a flight, as I can do

682
00:38:53,587 --> 00:38:59,987
Speaker 15: it these days we did. So there guy will hope

683
00:39:00,187 --> 00:39:03,947
Speaker 15: they'll work on strategy, they'll work on pit stops, tire changes,

684
00:39:03,947 --> 00:39:06,187
Speaker 15: and don't you get all these cars, every single car

685
00:39:06,547 --> 00:39:10,027
Speaker 15: mandated that they have to change the break rotors and

686
00:39:10,227 --> 00:39:12,867
Speaker 15: discpads at some stage, so you know, if you get

687
00:39:12,907 --> 00:39:15,547
Speaker 15: that timing right. So for these guys, for the bulk

688
00:39:15,587 --> 00:39:17,347
Speaker 15: of the kiwis other than what it's going to be

689
00:39:17,707 --> 00:39:22,147
Speaker 15: really predicated on strategy. But the interesting thing, also, Piney,

690
00:39:22,307 --> 00:39:25,547
Speaker 15: is that today here is glorious. It's a zua, blue skies,

691
00:39:25,867 --> 00:39:28,667
Speaker 15: a little bit of wind, but rain is forecast, and

692
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Speaker 15: especially in the last hour of the race, some quite

693
00:39:31,107 --> 00:39:34,747
Speaker 15: heavy rain, so you know that's gonna that'll be a real.

694
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Speaker 2: Roll of the dice fifty three minutes until they go eat.

695
00:39:39,027 --> 00:39:40,987
Speaker 2: So I can sense the excitement in your voice, and

696
00:39:41,027 --> 00:39:42,587
Speaker 2: why not love having you one mate. We're going to

697
00:39:42,667 --> 00:39:45,067
Speaker 2: get back to you after the race has been going

698
00:39:45,107 --> 00:39:46,867
Speaker 2: for a little while, maybe just after two o'clock, to

699
00:39:47,627 --> 00:39:49,947
Speaker 2: get some early assessment from you. Thanks for joining us,

700
00:39:50,027 --> 00:39:52,987
Speaker 2: Eric Thompson read him at NZ Herald dot co dot NZ.

701
00:39:53,227 --> 00:39:56,787
Speaker 2: Some fantastic content there as you prepare for the start

702
00:39:56,987 --> 00:39:59,627
Speaker 2: of the Bathurst one thousand at one forty five New

703
00:39:59,707 --> 00:40:02,547
Speaker 2: Zealand time this afternoon, seven and a half away from

704
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Speaker 2: one now, when.

705
00:40:03,987 --> 00:40:07,787
Speaker 1: It's down to the line. You made a call ten

706
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Speaker 1: eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Hine, News Talk.

707
00:40:11,067 --> 00:40:13,787
Speaker 2: Zemb coming up four to one on text, Jason, I'd

708
00:40:13,867 --> 00:40:16,507
Speaker 2: be far more interested in watching R three sixty than

709
00:40:16,707 --> 00:40:18,987
Speaker 2: any other regional rugby tournament of the world. The likes

710
00:40:19,067 --> 00:40:23,227
Speaker 2: of shoot Shield, Japanese Division one, Top fourteen, United Rugby Championship,

711
00:40:23,507 --> 00:40:27,467
Speaker 2: Curry Cup, Major League Rugby, European Rugby, Gallaha Premiership. I've

712
00:40:27,507 --> 00:40:29,827
Speaker 2: never been to India, the text continues, but I still

713
00:40:29,827 --> 00:40:32,627
Speaker 2: have a favorite team in the IPL. The Geni super Kings.

714
00:40:32,627 --> 00:40:35,707
Speaker 2: Because of the Keywi connection, I think R three sixty

715
00:40:35,747 --> 00:40:38,827
Speaker 2: could be like a lot better version of the sevens.

716
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Speaker 2: We wait and see, We wait and see. Thank you

717
00:40:42,067 --> 00:40:44,427
Speaker 2: for your calls and correspondence on our three sixty. We'll

718
00:40:44,627 --> 00:40:46,907
Speaker 2: continue to try and prod them to come on and

719
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Speaker 2: tell us more. We'd love to hear more from R

720
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Speaker 2: three sixty about exactly where they are and what their

721
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Speaker 2: plans are and the landmarks along the way, including the

722
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Speaker 2: all important sanctioning of their competition by World Rugby After

723
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Speaker 2: one going to flick across the cricket in Australia, they're

724
00:41:04,227 --> 00:41:07,987
Speaker 2: talking or there has been talk about move the Boxing

725
00:41:08,147 --> 00:41:12,747
Speaker 2: Day Test Usmond Kawaja has said some very interesting things

726
00:41:12,787 --> 00:41:15,307
Speaker 2: about this. How are they feeling about this across the

727
00:41:15,347 --> 00:41:17,987
Speaker 2: Tasman Jim Max, We're going to join us and shouldn't

728
00:41:17,987 --> 00:41:19,707
Speaker 2: we bring our Boxing Day Test back?

729
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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest fourse issues on

730
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Speaker 1: and after fields. It's all on Weekends Forward with Jason

731
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Speaker 1: Taine on your home of Sport with New York.

732
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Speaker 2: Hello there, welcome and welcome back. This this weekend's fort

733
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Speaker 2: On News Talks, hedb On Jason Pine, Andy McDonald alongside

734
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Speaker 2: one oh seventh the time James mcony this hour, as

735
00:41:43,147 --> 00:41:48,747
Speaker 2: always on a Sunday, the fourth and final quarter final

736
00:41:48,787 --> 00:41:51,707
Speaker 2: and the Buddings ENDPC is about an hour away from

737
00:41:51,787 --> 00:41:56,907
Speaker 2: getting underway at Apollo Projects Stadium in christ Church, Canterbury

738
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Speaker 2: up against Counties Manico. Actually, the good folk of christ Church,

739
00:42:01,347 --> 00:42:05,587
Speaker 2: could I trouble you for a quick weather report? What's

740
00:42:05,627 --> 00:42:10,387
Speaker 2: the day like? Conducive? Is it to running rugby? Let's

741
00:42:10,387 --> 00:42:11,867
Speaker 2: hope so ninet two nine two if you can just

742
00:42:11,907 --> 00:42:15,187
Speaker 2: provide a very quick weather update for us from christ

743
00:42:15,307 --> 00:42:18,067
Speaker 2: Jug we could wait, I guess until we get to

744
00:42:18,107 --> 00:42:21,187
Speaker 2: our commentary team there and around twenty twenty five minutes

745
00:42:21,267 --> 00:42:24,867
Speaker 2: or sober. If you have the time and the inclination,

746
00:42:25,067 --> 00:42:29,067
Speaker 2: just fire off a quick weather report to us nine

747
00:42:29,147 --> 00:42:34,947
Speaker 2: two ninety two. Bathhurst is also drawing closer. One forty

748
00:42:35,107 --> 00:42:39,347
Speaker 2: five is when it all starts at Mount Panorama. We

749
00:42:39,467 --> 00:42:42,027
Speaker 2: look at the kiwis and we find Ryan Wood there

750
00:42:42,467 --> 00:42:45,867
Speaker 2: qualifying fourth after the top ten shootout yesterday. Actually the

751
00:42:45,987 --> 00:42:48,107
Speaker 2: Kiwi who starts furthest up, although he won't be in

752
00:42:48,187 --> 00:42:50,787
Speaker 2: the car to start, is Fabian Coultart. He's co driving

753
00:42:50,867 --> 00:42:54,787
Speaker 2: with Chaz Mostrt who starts third on the grid alongside

754
00:42:54,907 --> 00:42:59,187
Speaker 2: Ryan Wood, So that's the Keywi interest near the top

755
00:42:59,227 --> 00:43:01,067
Speaker 2: of the grid. Then you drop down to Matt Paine

756
00:43:01,107 --> 00:43:05,987
Speaker 2: in eighteenth, andre Heimgartner nineteenth, Richie Standaway twenty third and

757
00:43:06,027 --> 00:43:09,907
Speaker 2: Jackson Evans twenty fourth. Those are the Kiwis who are

758
00:43:09,987 --> 00:43:13,987
Speaker 2: involved this afternoon when bathist Pet's underway at around one

759
00:43:14,147 --> 00:43:17,347
Speaker 2: forty five. Will be sure to keep you right up

760
00:43:17,387 --> 00:43:21,147
Speaker 2: to date. Dev says gooda pinety hot and windy. Thank you.

761
00:43:21,267 --> 00:43:25,227
Speaker 2: Deb twenty six degrees says this one blustery should be

762
00:43:25,347 --> 00:43:27,067
Speaker 2: hard and fast running rugby.

763
00:43:27,107 --> 00:43:27,667
Speaker 5: That's what we like.

764
00:43:28,227 --> 00:43:31,427
Speaker 2: That's what we like to hear. Counties actually don't. You've

765
00:43:31,427 --> 00:43:36,147
Speaker 2: probably picked up on this. Counties have had just a

766
00:43:36,627 --> 00:43:40,267
Speaker 2: really crazy season. They lost their first five games, they

767
00:43:40,307 --> 00:43:44,347
Speaker 2: were zero to five and look gone for all money.

768
00:43:44,387 --> 00:43:46,387
Speaker 2: Then they won their next five games in a row

769
00:43:47,787 --> 00:43:51,187
Speaker 2: and in the last four games they're averaging over fifty

770
00:43:51,307 --> 00:43:55,467
Speaker 2: points per game. I don't know what happened midseason, but

771
00:43:55,627 --> 00:43:59,467
Speaker 2: something has. So are they genuine contenders to beat Canterbury

772
00:43:59,507 --> 00:44:01,347
Speaker 2: this afternoon? I guess they have to be. They're there,

773
00:44:01,387 --> 00:44:04,627
Speaker 2: aren't they? The other three quarterfinals all went to the

774
00:44:04,667 --> 00:44:08,707
Speaker 2: home side Otago Friday night, Bay of plenty yesterday and

775
00:44:08,827 --> 00:44:13,587
Speaker 2: then Hawks Bay last night. So a Canterbury gonna complete

776
00:44:13,667 --> 00:44:18,787
Speaker 2: that quartet? Or are counties going to surprise us? All goodness,

777
00:44:18,827 --> 00:44:21,507
Speaker 2: look at all these look at all these tests. I'd

778
00:44:21,547 --> 00:44:23,827
Speaker 2: better get through the because people have actually taken the time.

779
00:44:24,267 --> 00:44:29,067
Speaker 2: A warm northwest breeze, sunny, a balmie twenty five in

780
00:44:29,187 --> 00:44:32,547
Speaker 2: christ Church, hot with strong westerly wind, says this one,

781
00:44:32,587 --> 00:44:36,307
Speaker 2: bright sunshine and a blustery northwester of piney hot end

782
00:44:36,387 --> 00:44:40,227
Speaker 2: windy christ chair is twenty five A fairly strong westerly wind,

783
00:44:40,307 --> 00:44:43,307
Speaker 2: says Barb. The weather's hot, norwester of blowing twenty six

784
00:44:43,707 --> 00:44:46,187
Speaker 2: hot with a bit of a breeze. Although they've misspelt

785
00:44:46,227 --> 00:44:49,427
Speaker 2: that freeze, I presume they mean breeze. Thank you so

786
00:44:49,587 --> 00:44:52,867
Speaker 2: much the good folk of christ Church for furnishing us

787
00:44:53,507 --> 00:44:55,187
Speaker 2: with that information. Looks like it's going to be a

788
00:44:55,227 --> 00:44:57,667
Speaker 2: cracker down there. We'll get to our commentary team, as

789
00:44:57,707 --> 00:45:00,267
Speaker 2: I say, around half past one, but we start this

790
00:45:00,467 --> 00:45:04,707
Speaker 2: hour with cricket. Could the iconic Boxing Day cricket Test

791
00:45:04,907 --> 00:45:12,987
Speaker 2: at the Melbourne Cricket Ground be under threat? Strikes has

792
00:45:13,067 --> 00:45:16,507
Speaker 2: taken thirty two years the New Zealand have another Boxing

793
00:45:16,587 --> 00:45:19,987
Speaker 2: Day wicket at the MCG. Well, you mentioned the World

794
00:45:20,027 --> 00:45:20,507
Speaker 2: Cup final.

795
00:45:20,547 --> 00:45:21,987
Speaker 15: We start knocked over my Coavin.

796
00:45:22,347 --> 00:45:26,227
Speaker 2: How about muster payback first over? We said it wasn't quick.

797
00:45:26,507 --> 00:45:28,147
Speaker 4: He built out to one thirty.

798
00:45:27,907 --> 00:45:29,827
Speaker 2: But we said it had to be accurate. He had

799
00:45:29,907 --> 00:45:30,667
Speaker 2: to make them play.

800
00:45:31,027 --> 00:45:32,787
Speaker 14: And this is a great sign because it's.

801
00:45:32,707 --> 00:45:35,827
Speaker 2: Swung Warning absolutely, it's a beautiful delivery.

802
00:45:35,987 --> 00:45:36,467
Speaker 7: Nip back.

803
00:45:36,547 --> 00:45:39,467
Speaker 2: It swung in Trent Bolt right on the money. It's

804
00:45:39,467 --> 00:45:42,307
Speaker 2: all about setting the tone early in Trent Volt's done that.

805
00:45:42,627 --> 00:45:44,987
Speaker 2: How good to hear the voice of Shane Warn in

806
00:45:45,107 --> 00:45:47,587
Speaker 2: that commentary from twenty nineteen. I think that was actually

807
00:45:47,587 --> 00:45:50,347
Speaker 2: the high point of New Zealand's last visit to the

808
00:45:50,507 --> 00:45:52,667
Speaker 2: MCG was Trent Bolt getting a wicket very early on.

809
00:45:52,787 --> 00:45:55,067
Speaker 2: It didn't go quite as well after that. Some very

810
00:45:55,147 --> 00:45:58,387
Speaker 2: interesting comments though across the Tasman this week eighty four

811
00:45:58,547 --> 00:46:04,067
Speaker 2: Test Australian opener Usmond Kawaja believes cricket bosses there should

812
00:46:04,187 --> 00:46:08,867
Speaker 2: consider moving the Boxing and the New Year's Tests if

813
00:46:08,947 --> 00:46:12,427
Speaker 2: that allows top Australian players to take part in the

814
00:46:12,547 --> 00:46:17,107
Speaker 2: Big Bash every year. Usmond Kawaja says, at some level

815
00:46:17,227 --> 00:46:21,067
Speaker 2: at some stage, everything that grows must change. He goes

816
00:46:21,147 --> 00:46:22,947
Speaker 2: on to say, as much as I love the Boxing

817
00:46:23,067 --> 00:46:25,987
Speaker 2: Day and Sydney Cricket ground test matches and I don't

818
00:46:26,067 --> 00:46:28,747
Speaker 2: want to move them, if it's better for the growth

819
00:46:28,787 --> 00:46:31,867
Speaker 2: of the game and allows Australian players to play in

820
00:46:31,947 --> 00:46:36,427
Speaker 2: the Big Bash, I think it's worth talking about and exploring.

821
00:46:36,947 --> 00:46:40,387
Speaker 2: The longtime voice of Australian Cricket, Jim Maxwell. As with

822
00:46:40,587 --> 00:46:44,747
Speaker 2: US Jim, how would the average Australian cricket fan have

823
00:46:44,907 --> 00:46:48,387
Speaker 2: reacted to those comments from Usmand Kawaja?

824
00:46:49,267 --> 00:46:51,067
Speaker 13: Well, I can't speak for all of them, but I

825
00:46:51,147 --> 00:46:52,947
Speaker 13: hope if they've got a bit of common sense and

826
00:46:53,147 --> 00:46:55,467
Speaker 13: an interest in the future of the game, they'd ignore them.

827
00:46:56,587 --> 00:46:58,907
Speaker 13: I don't think that's on by any stretch of the

828
00:46:58,987 --> 00:47:00,467
Speaker 13: imagination at the moment.

829
00:47:00,707 --> 00:47:03,187
Speaker 4: At the moment, because we live in a.

830
00:47:03,267 --> 00:47:08,547
Speaker 13: Rapidly changing world where money, money is talking the game,

831
00:47:09,147 --> 00:47:13,827
Speaker 13: and that conflict that keeps growing between sort of traditional

832
00:47:13,987 --> 00:47:17,427
Speaker 13: test cricket and the ICC running the game and the

833
00:47:17,587 --> 00:47:21,987
Speaker 13: franchises that are getting bigger and more powerful around the

834
00:47:22,067 --> 00:47:27,627
Speaker 13: world is on a collision course. How do you work

835
00:47:27,707 --> 00:47:30,947
Speaker 13: out what is the best program for the year. You

836
00:47:31,107 --> 00:47:34,227
Speaker 13: don't have Test cricket on Boxing days. South Africa don't,

837
00:47:34,667 --> 00:47:37,387
Speaker 13: but Australia hangs on to it. And as long as

838
00:47:37,507 --> 00:47:40,827
Speaker 13: Cricket Australia have the view that that is the most

839
00:47:40,947 --> 00:47:41,987
Speaker 13: important thing in.

840
00:47:42,147 --> 00:47:44,947
Speaker 4: Terms of the Australian team to have.

841
00:47:46,667 --> 00:47:50,467
Speaker 13: Boxing Day in particular and a series of next years

842
00:47:50,467 --> 00:47:54,467
Speaker 13: against New Zealand in Australia. I don't think what Usman's

843
00:47:54,507 --> 00:47:56,547
Speaker 13: saying is going to mean much.

844
00:47:57,227 --> 00:47:59,587
Speaker 4: But it may in time, yes it could.

845
00:48:00,107 --> 00:48:03,307
Speaker 2: How important and iconic does the Boxing Day Test in

846
00:48:03,387 --> 00:48:07,867
Speaker 2: particular continue to be on the Australia in cricket calendar,

847
00:48:08,027 --> 00:48:09,507
Speaker 2: Jim Well.

848
00:48:09,387 --> 00:48:13,107
Speaker 13: It's the biggest earner in the summer in terms of

849
00:48:13,227 --> 00:48:16,827
Speaker 13: what comes through the gate apart from eyeballs on television

850
00:48:16,907 --> 00:48:20,667
Speaker 13: and the holiday period. So it is very very important

851
00:48:21,667 --> 00:48:24,907
Speaker 13: and that's the way it's going to be for as

852
00:48:24,947 --> 00:48:29,147
Speaker 13: long as we can sustain a competitive looking test match

853
00:48:29,627 --> 00:48:33,507
Speaker 13: every Boxing day, and that in itself does become a

854
00:48:33,547 --> 00:48:35,747
Speaker 13: little bit of a problem when you know, and you

855
00:48:35,907 --> 00:48:38,947
Speaker 13: move away to having Pakistan West Indies dare I say

856
00:48:38,987 --> 00:48:42,067
Speaker 13: it hopefully not New Zealand because they're okay at the moment,

857
00:48:42,187 --> 00:48:45,987
Speaker 13: but we are moving to a changing landscape in the

858
00:48:46,107 --> 00:48:49,747
Speaker 13: world of Test cricket. I think two divisions may well

859
00:48:49,827 --> 00:48:54,467
Speaker 13: become the order of the day. Fortunately, unfortunately, whichever way

860
00:48:54,467 --> 00:48:57,427
Speaker 13: you want to look at it. But yes, Boxing Day

861
00:48:58,147 --> 00:49:01,627
Speaker 13: is a big event. It's not quite the Melbourne Cup,

862
00:49:01,707 --> 00:49:05,467
Speaker 13: but you know you're going to get fifty thousand plus

863
00:49:06,587 --> 00:49:09,427
Speaker 13: you'll get almost one hundred thousand this year with England

864
00:49:09,467 --> 00:49:10,147
Speaker 13: in Australia.

865
00:49:10,547 --> 00:49:14,507
Speaker 4: So it's a big day and a big match in

866
00:49:14,907 --> 00:49:17,187
Speaker 4: the scheme of things during an Australian summer.

867
00:49:17,667 --> 00:49:20,787
Speaker 2: The reason Osmond Kwaja even made the comments, I think

868
00:49:20,947 --> 00:49:23,987
Speaker 2: was because top players, top top players like Pat commons

869
00:49:24,067 --> 00:49:27,187
Speaker 2: like Travis Head have been offered massive money to quit

870
00:49:27,227 --> 00:49:30,387
Speaker 2: Australian cricket altogether and just play franchise cricket full time.

871
00:49:31,227 --> 00:49:33,347
Speaker 2: If it is a matter of moving Test matches, but

872
00:49:33,587 --> 00:49:36,707
Speaker 2: keeping players like that, is it worthy of at least

873
00:49:36,747 --> 00:49:37,987
Speaker 2: opening a discussion or not?

874
00:49:39,627 --> 00:49:39,787
Speaker 7: Oh?

875
00:49:39,867 --> 00:49:42,347
Speaker 4: I think I think the other side is going to

876
00:49:42,427 --> 00:49:45,107
Speaker 4: have to make ren for it. I say that advisedly.

877
00:49:45,147 --> 00:49:47,747
Speaker 13: I think there are one hundred and seventy four IPL

878
00:49:47,947 --> 00:49:52,267
Speaker 13: matches coming up next year, so we're looking at it

879
00:49:52,347 --> 00:49:55,707
Speaker 13: an amazing amount of T twenty cricket, which you know,

880
00:49:55,907 --> 00:49:59,427
Speaker 13: for for a lot of us is more than the

881
00:49:59,547 --> 00:50:02,467
Speaker 13: corn flax can go down in the space of a week.

882
00:50:02,507 --> 00:50:04,227
Speaker 13: There's too much of it and it's all a bit

883
00:50:04,307 --> 00:50:08,707
Speaker 13: the same. But the see is the kind of cricket

884
00:50:08,787 --> 00:50:12,027
Speaker 13: world where we're moving towards more and more, particularly on

885
00:50:12,147 --> 00:50:15,267
Speaker 13: the back of all the corporates in India are throwing

886
00:50:15,427 --> 00:50:18,027
Speaker 13: so much money at it. I mean, you know now

887
00:50:18,227 --> 00:50:22,627
Speaker 13: that the IPL in terms of the television side of

888
00:50:22,667 --> 00:50:27,187
Speaker 13: it in particular, is almost as big as American NFL.

889
00:50:27,827 --> 00:50:30,507
Speaker 13: That's how big it's become. And you can see why

890
00:50:30,667 --> 00:50:33,507
Speaker 13: with that huge audience out there, it's no wonder that

891
00:50:33,587 --> 00:50:35,667
Speaker 13: people want to have part of it.

892
00:50:35,707 --> 00:50:36,147
Speaker 14: All, you know.

893
00:50:36,707 --> 00:50:43,627
Speaker 13: Beyond that and all these temptations and discussions about other

894
00:50:43,827 --> 00:50:45,307
Speaker 13: leagues being formed.

895
00:50:45,747 --> 00:50:47,827
Speaker 5: It's not about Test cricket there for sure.

896
00:50:47,907 --> 00:50:51,347
Speaker 13: It's all about T twenty. And I suppose if we're

897
00:50:51,347 --> 00:50:54,347
Speaker 13: going to keep people in this game of cricket, we're

898
00:50:54,427 --> 00:50:56,627
Speaker 13: going to have to find a way to manage all

899
00:50:56,667 --> 00:50:56,867
Speaker 13: of that.

900
00:50:57,507 --> 00:51:00,707
Speaker 4: And that's the difficulty. The players, on.

901
00:51:00,787 --> 00:51:04,867
Speaker 13: One hand, feel most of them that substantially test crickets

902
00:51:04,907 --> 00:51:07,907
Speaker 13: what the game is about. Avid on the other, the

903
00:51:07,987 --> 00:51:10,947
Speaker 13: people who run it, who like to collect the crumbs

904
00:51:11,027 --> 00:51:15,227
Speaker 13: and put coins in the bank. They see it's far

905
00:51:15,387 --> 00:51:19,107
Speaker 13: more realistic longer term to have more and more.

906
00:51:19,587 --> 00:51:23,547
Speaker 5: Of that which pays the tune the circus that.

907
00:51:24,027 --> 00:51:27,387
Speaker 4: Goes around regularly and draws the crowd. But Test cricket

908
00:51:27,427 --> 00:51:30,547
Speaker 4: does pretty well still for Australia and for England. Not

909
00:51:30,787 --> 00:51:35,147
Speaker 4: so much for India perhaps in terms of crowds, but at.

910
00:51:35,187 --> 00:51:37,627
Speaker 13: Least for the time being, I think Test crickets are

911
00:51:37,707 --> 00:51:38,987
Speaker 13: secure and so's.

912
00:51:38,747 --> 00:51:41,067
Speaker 4: The Boxing day Test. But that can change.

913
00:51:41,547 --> 00:51:43,547
Speaker 2: Just to word on your Big Besh Jim, there's been

914
00:51:43,627 --> 00:51:47,707
Speaker 2: ongoing talks about the possible privatization of the franchises, even

915
00:51:47,827 --> 00:51:50,587
Speaker 2: moving the competition into a different window so it doesn't

916
00:51:50,627 --> 00:51:53,867
Speaker 2: have to compete with other overseas leagues for talent. What

917
00:51:54,067 --> 00:51:57,387
Speaker 2: is the current health of the Big Besh in your view?

918
00:51:59,147 --> 00:52:00,467
Speaker 4: Oh, I think it's very healthy.

919
00:52:01,067 --> 00:52:05,827
Speaker 13: But there are as ever in Australia competing interests in

920
00:52:05,947 --> 00:52:09,027
Speaker 13: these to see who's going to have ownership, and most

921
00:52:09,067 --> 00:52:11,067
Speaker 13: of the states, as far as I can see, don't.

922
00:52:10,907 --> 00:52:11,947
Speaker 4: Want it at the moment.

923
00:52:12,427 --> 00:52:16,747
Speaker 13: But once again, the amount of money that's going to

924
00:52:16,747 --> 00:52:18,747
Speaker 13: be pumped in money from India, this is where it's

925
00:52:18,787 --> 00:52:19,467
Speaker 13: going to come from.

926
00:52:19,587 --> 00:52:21,227
Speaker 4: To corporatize the game.

927
00:52:21,307 --> 00:52:25,227
Speaker 13: And have private ownership will be overwhelming, so at some

928
00:52:25,387 --> 00:52:27,707
Speaker 13: point it will probably have to happen. But at the

929
00:52:27,787 --> 00:52:32,147
Speaker 13: moment the States are very keen to hang on to

930
00:52:32,307 --> 00:52:35,067
Speaker 13: the product, if I can call it that, that they've got.

931
00:52:35,747 --> 00:52:37,267
Speaker 4: That's a pretty good earner for.

932
00:52:37,347 --> 00:52:41,227
Speaker 13: Them and it makes enough sense to keep it as

933
00:52:41,267 --> 00:52:45,627
Speaker 13: it is, provided of course that they can get more

934
00:52:45,707 --> 00:52:48,867
Speaker 13: access to the best players, and that's part of what

935
00:52:49,027 --> 00:52:50,787
Speaker 13: Osmond Kawaja was on about, of course.

936
00:52:51,547 --> 00:52:53,347
Speaker 2: And just a word on the Ashes, as you say,

937
00:52:53,467 --> 00:52:56,267
Speaker 2: there'll be huge interest both domestically and from the visiting

938
00:52:56,307 --> 00:52:57,867
Speaker 2: fans as well. I can tell you, Jim, I think

939
00:52:58,027 --> 00:52:59,827
Speaker 2: it's the cricket I'm most looking forward to in the

940
00:52:59,867 --> 00:53:02,427
Speaker 2: summer ahead. We've just got three Test matches against the

941
00:53:02,467 --> 00:53:05,467
Speaker 2: West Indies and December to consume us as far as

942
00:53:05,507 --> 00:53:09,027
Speaker 2: the red ballers can. How much anticipation is there around

943
00:53:09,067 --> 00:53:10,627
Speaker 2: about the upcoming Ashes.

944
00:53:11,867 --> 00:53:15,427
Speaker 13: Well from Australian perspective, despite the fact that it looks

945
00:53:15,547 --> 00:53:18,307
Speaker 13: like Pat Cummins may not even play a Test this

946
00:53:18,427 --> 00:53:21,427
Speaker 13: summer because of his back problems. The interest in the

947
00:53:21,587 --> 00:53:24,267
Speaker 13: series just a number of people, a bit like when

948
00:53:24,267 --> 00:53:27,147
Speaker 13: the lines we're here recently, will be huge, will be

949
00:53:27,947 --> 00:53:31,307
Speaker 13: full houses and a number of days of Test match cricket,

950
00:53:31,827 --> 00:53:35,267
Speaker 13: and I think the expectation is that it is going

951
00:53:35,347 --> 00:53:40,267
Speaker 13: to be a challenging, competitive series. There's a lot of

952
00:53:40,307 --> 00:53:43,507
Speaker 13: speculation about who and white and where and white at

953
00:53:43,547 --> 00:53:46,387
Speaker 13: this point because we're still about five or six weeks

954
00:53:46,427 --> 00:53:50,267
Speaker 13: away from it. I mean, will bend Stokes bowl? Will

955
00:53:50,307 --> 00:53:52,187
Speaker 13: he be fit enough for the whole series? There are

956
00:53:52,267 --> 00:53:56,667
Speaker 13: so many questions around the injuries on the fringe or

957
00:53:56,947 --> 00:54:01,107
Speaker 13: actual with both sides, about who will be selected, particularly

958
00:54:01,147 --> 00:54:04,907
Speaker 13: in the Australian top three, so we've got a lot

959
00:54:04,987 --> 00:54:09,347
Speaker 13: to look forward to. Massive expectation always is when England

960
00:54:09,507 --> 00:54:13,027
Speaker 13: come to town, but probably more so this time because

961
00:54:13,107 --> 00:54:17,587
Speaker 13: you're looking at what I've described as a redemption series

962
00:54:17,987 --> 00:54:21,947
Speaker 13: for Smith and Stokes in particular, probably the last time

963
00:54:22,187 --> 00:54:24,627
Speaker 13: we see either or both of them playing in a

964
00:54:24,987 --> 00:54:29,347
Speaker 13: in a Test match series against each other. So there's

965
00:54:29,427 --> 00:54:32,547
Speaker 13: lots of things cranking around as we move towards a

966
00:54:32,707 --> 00:54:35,827
Speaker 13: serious transition stage for the Australian team in the next

967
00:54:35,867 --> 00:54:38,427
Speaker 13: two years. A lot of the fellows will gained to

968
00:54:38,827 --> 00:54:41,667
Speaker 13: a watch during this summer probably won't be playing again

969
00:54:41,747 --> 00:54:45,067
Speaker 13: in another year or two from now, and that's an

970
00:54:45,107 --> 00:54:46,387
Speaker 13: interesting thought on its own.

971
00:54:46,467 --> 00:54:47,627
Speaker 4: Who's going to replace them?

972
00:54:47,987 --> 00:54:51,187
Speaker 13: But yeah, a lot of expectation and hopefully to watch

973
00:54:51,267 --> 00:54:55,827
Speaker 13: some exciting cricket because England certainly always promise to deliver

974
00:54:55,907 --> 00:54:57,267
Speaker 13: that excitement when they're batting.

975
00:54:57,427 --> 00:54:59,387
Speaker 2: Well, well, certainly you have eyes on the side of

976
00:54:59,387 --> 00:55:01,587
Speaker 2: the testment as well. Wonderful to chat Jim, Thank you

977
00:55:01,667 --> 00:55:04,187
Speaker 2: so much for taking the time, right Jason, all the

978
00:55:04,227 --> 00:55:05,787
Speaker 2: best man, all the best of you too, Jim Jim

979
00:55:05,867 --> 00:55:08,867
Speaker 2: Maxwell there, Yeah, I love the way he says the

980
00:55:08,947 --> 00:55:13,227
Speaker 2: word cricket. It's just so laid back, isn't it. Yeah,

981
00:55:13,387 --> 00:55:17,267
Speaker 2: just comes us up images of sitting on the bank

982
00:55:17,307 --> 00:55:20,547
Speaker 2: at an ASHES Test and listening to Jim Maxwell call

983
00:55:20,627 --> 00:55:24,427
Speaker 2: the game. Just on this whole thing. I mean, it

984
00:55:24,467 --> 00:55:28,187
Speaker 2: would be misguided in my view to move it, for

985
00:55:28,307 --> 00:55:31,387
Speaker 2: Australian cricket to move the Boxing Day Test. But that

986
00:55:31,587 --> 00:55:33,307
Speaker 2: really isn't how cool to make Is it nothing to

987
00:55:33,347 --> 00:55:36,987
Speaker 2: do with us? It's not our our test match to

988
00:55:37,587 --> 00:55:40,067
Speaker 2: move or maybe to give opinion on. But what is

989
00:55:40,147 --> 00:55:42,627
Speaker 2: I reckon? As I was sort of thinking about talking

990
00:55:42,667 --> 00:55:45,507
Speaker 2: to Jim Max, what today, why don't we bring back

991
00:55:45,587 --> 00:55:46,707
Speaker 2: our Boxing Day Test?

992
00:55:48,467 --> 00:55:48,867
Speaker 15: We should?

993
00:55:48,907 --> 00:55:53,467
Speaker 2: Shouldn't we? We should bring it back, Oh, eight hundred

994
00:55:53,467 --> 00:55:55,027
Speaker 2: and eighty, ten eighty, Just want to kick this around

995
00:55:55,067 --> 00:55:57,947
Speaker 2: with you. The first one was in nineteen ninety eight.

996
00:55:59,027 --> 00:56:00,947
Speaker 2: We had it for four years, so it looked like

997
00:56:01,027 --> 00:56:05,307
Speaker 2: they were starting to establish something regular. On our cricket

998
00:56:05,427 --> 00:56:08,587
Speaker 2: calendar said it for four years, then a year off,

999
00:56:08,627 --> 00:56:11,147
Speaker 2: then back again in two thousand and three, so we

1000
00:56:11,267 --> 00:56:14,667
Speaker 2: had five and six years, all of those at the base,

1001
00:56:14,707 --> 00:56:16,507
Speaker 2: and then it took a break and it was replaced

1002
00:56:17,507 --> 00:56:21,147
Speaker 2: most summers by an ODI or a T twenty, usually

1003
00:56:21,227 --> 00:56:25,507
Speaker 2: at Eden Park on Boxing Day. The Boxing Day test

1004
00:56:25,547 --> 00:56:30,547
Speaker 2: then came back in twenty fourteen at Hagley and then

1005
00:56:30,587 --> 00:56:32,667
Speaker 2: there were ODI's there for the next three years, and

1006
00:56:32,747 --> 00:56:35,267
Speaker 2: then a test again in twenty eighteen, and most recently

1007
00:56:35,307 --> 00:56:37,627
Speaker 2: we had one in twenty twenty at Bay Oval in

1008
00:56:37,667 --> 00:56:39,547
Speaker 2: the Mount but nothing since that of either color ball

1009
00:56:39,627 --> 00:56:43,067
Speaker 2: actually on Boxing Day. It felt like we gave it

1010
00:56:43,147 --> 00:56:46,667
Speaker 2: a chance initially to become a feature of our summer

1011
00:56:46,707 --> 00:56:50,667
Speaker 2: but just didn't follow through. Surely we have to find

1012
00:56:50,707 --> 00:56:54,267
Speaker 2: a way to revive it. Look I totally get the

1013
00:56:54,347 --> 00:56:58,027
Speaker 2: scheduling issues. I totally understand how difficult it is to

1014
00:56:58,707 --> 00:57:02,867
Speaker 2: shoehorn everything in, but if we're going to have Test

1015
00:57:02,947 --> 00:57:07,027
Speaker 2: cricket here in December, which we are are this year.

1016
00:57:08,747 --> 00:57:10,947
Speaker 2: Surely one of those three Test matches could have been

1017
00:57:10,987 --> 00:57:13,507
Speaker 2: played from Boxing Day through to what would it be,

1018
00:57:13,587 --> 00:57:18,187
Speaker 2: the thirtieth. At the moment, they're all sort of crammed

1019
00:57:18,267 --> 00:57:21,307
Speaker 2: in between the start of December and about the twenty second.

1020
00:57:22,187 --> 00:57:25,827
Speaker 2: Those fifteen days or fifteen scheduled days anyway of Test

1021
00:57:25,867 --> 00:57:28,787
Speaker 2: cricket are all shoehorned in there. Why couldn't one of

1022
00:57:28,827 --> 00:57:32,387
Speaker 2: those Test matches be played from Boxing Day? Again? I

1023
00:57:32,507 --> 00:57:40,467
Speaker 2: get the scheduling issues, I totally get it, but why

1024
00:57:40,507 --> 00:57:43,787
Speaker 2: couldn't we give it another crack o? Eight one hundred

1025
00:57:43,787 --> 00:57:45,467
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. Who's in favor of this?

1026
00:57:45,707 --> 00:57:46,427
Speaker 4: Is it just me?

1027
00:57:47,827 --> 00:57:52,107
Speaker 2: Or would you also be a fan of watching Test

1028
00:57:52,147 --> 00:57:53,987
Speaker 2: cricket from Boxing Day through to the back end of

1029
00:57:54,027 --> 00:57:55,827
Speaker 2: the year. I W eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Let's

1030
00:57:55,867 --> 00:57:59,147
Speaker 2: kick it around one twenty four, twenty one minutes away

1031
00:57:59,227 --> 00:58:01,947
Speaker 2: from the start of the Bathhurst one thousand. As the

1032
00:58:02,027 --> 00:58:04,387
Speaker 2: build up continues, we'll get you back to Bathurst after two.

1033
00:58:04,667 --> 00:58:09,707
Speaker 2: It's a beautifull day there and a key We interest

1034
00:58:10,107 --> 00:58:13,267
Speaker 2: three or four five drivers and a co driver there,

1035
00:58:13,307 --> 00:58:14,707
Speaker 2: so we'll keep eyes on that for you as well,

1036
00:58:14,787 --> 00:58:16,707
Speaker 2: but please talk about a Boxing day cricket ore we

1037
00:58:16,707 --> 00:58:18,227
Speaker 2: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty or nine two

1038
00:58:18,307 --> 00:58:19,427
Speaker 2: nine two one text back in a moment.

1039
00:58:19,947 --> 00:58:23,467
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1040
00:58:23,667 --> 00:58:28,147
Speaker 1: Jason Pain and GJ. Gunnomes, New Zealand's most trusted home Builder,

1041
00:58:28,267 --> 00:58:29,227
Speaker 1: News Talks, NB.

1042
00:58:29,747 --> 00:58:32,107
Speaker 2: News Talks EV and Weekend Sport talking the Boxing Day Test.

1043
00:58:32,467 --> 00:58:34,427
Speaker 2: A bunch of texts through here mussys pinety. The Boxing

1044
00:58:34,467 --> 00:58:37,227
Speaker 2: Day Test is in now DNA. I'm fifty three, remember

1045
00:58:37,267 --> 00:58:39,267
Speaker 2: watching it as a teenager. One of the reasons I

1046
00:58:39,347 --> 00:58:41,667
Speaker 2: wanted to play and watch cricket, even though it's in Australia.

1047
00:58:41,707 --> 00:58:47,387
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, no, Muzza, I'll I'll totally watch

1048
00:58:47,427 --> 00:58:49,667
Speaker 2: the Boxing Day Test from Australia. Quite happy to do that.

1049
00:58:49,787 --> 00:58:52,267
Speaker 2: And this year it's an ASHES test. But I just

1050
00:58:52,427 --> 00:58:53,987
Speaker 2: I don't know we could we could bring it back,

1051
00:58:54,027 --> 00:58:56,867
Speaker 2: couldn't we? By the way, says muzz are you sounding

1052
00:58:56,867 --> 00:58:59,427
Speaker 2: a bit flat? Are you missing broadcasting from a pub?

1053
00:58:59,707 --> 00:59:01,747
Speaker 2: I don't think so, muss. I don't feel flat, I

1054
00:59:01,787 --> 00:59:03,467
Speaker 2: hope and it sound that way. I'll try and lift

1055
00:59:03,507 --> 00:59:08,027
Speaker 2: the vibe Jason. As far as a spectacle goes, says Stephen,

1056
00:59:08,187 --> 00:59:10,147
Speaker 2: the opening day of a Nash's Test against a big

1057
00:59:10,227 --> 00:59:13,587
Speaker 2: Bash League contest is like fine dining as opposed to

1058
00:59:13,747 --> 00:59:14,587
Speaker 2: fish and chips.

1059
00:59:15,507 --> 00:59:15,747
Speaker 14: Nice.

1060
00:59:16,267 --> 00:59:19,147
Speaker 2: What about this, says this text? A boxing day test

1061
00:59:19,227 --> 00:59:24,467
Speaker 2: at Pooka Kurda Park. Love that. Let's book a good

1062
00:59:24,507 --> 00:59:26,467
Speaker 2: of park a text test ground. There's too small, isn't it?

1063
00:59:26,987 --> 00:59:29,027
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I actually wouldn't care where it was.

1064
00:59:29,187 --> 00:59:30,947
Speaker 2: Jeeus book a cur A Park pinting over the end

1065
00:59:30,987 --> 00:59:33,227
Speaker 2: of day one and the team batting first. But it's

1066
00:59:33,267 --> 00:59:37,827
Speaker 2: called seven hundred even t twenty games there teams get

1067
00:59:37,827 --> 00:59:41,507
Speaker 2: about one thousand four defenses going for four man stop

1068
00:59:41,627 --> 00:59:44,107
Speaker 2: it as much as I'd love to see that. Okay,

1069
00:59:44,387 --> 00:59:46,467
Speaker 2: all right, we'll take pook A cur A Park off

1070
00:59:46,507 --> 00:59:50,987
Speaker 2: the list of potential venues. Then, you know, obviously it

1071
00:59:50,987 --> 00:59:53,347
Speaker 2: started at the Basin and I liked that, went to

1072
00:59:53,427 --> 00:59:54,827
Speaker 2: christ Church and had a few there, and then the

1073
00:59:54,907 --> 00:59:57,427
Speaker 2: Mounts in twenty twenty, sit the one at the Mountain

1074
00:59:57,467 --> 01:00:00,627
Speaker 2: twenty twenty the last one. You might not remember all

1075
01:00:00,667 --> 01:00:02,427
Speaker 2: the details of the game, but I'm sure you remember

1076
01:00:02,507 --> 01:00:05,107
Speaker 2: Mitchell Santner's Court in Bolt right near the end of

1077
01:00:05,187 --> 01:00:08,867
Speaker 2: day five he caught Narsim Shah four and a half

1078
01:00:08,947 --> 01:00:12,827
Speaker 2: overs to go. Pakistan had basically survived well over one

1079
01:00:12,907 --> 01:00:16,987
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty overs and New Zealand was sort of

1080
01:00:17,067 --> 01:00:19,427
Speaker 2: chipping away and chipping away, and Mitchell Satan had got

1081
01:00:19,467 --> 01:00:22,627
Speaker 2: that court in bold and that led not directly but

1082
01:00:22,747 --> 01:00:25,067
Speaker 2: certainly contributed in large parts in New Zealand making the

1083
01:00:25,067 --> 01:00:28,507
Speaker 2: World Test Championship final. So that was the last time

1084
01:00:28,547 --> 01:00:30,667
Speaker 2: we ever had one. The other one that stands out

1085
01:00:30,707 --> 01:00:32,507
Speaker 2: and Andy reminded me about this. I'd forgotten this. I

1086
01:00:32,507 --> 01:00:34,987
Speaker 2: don't know how, but in twenty fourteen when we played

1087
01:00:34,987 --> 01:00:38,387
Speaker 2: Shri Lanka at Hagley, Brendan McCullum got one hundred and

1088
01:00:38,587 --> 01:00:42,907
Speaker 2: ninety five of one hundred and thirty four balls, eighteen

1089
01:00:42,987 --> 01:00:46,907
Speaker 2: fours and eleven sixes. He just smashed it and I

1090
01:00:46,987 --> 01:00:48,667
Speaker 2: went and had a quick look back and he did.

1091
01:00:49,507 --> 01:00:51,547
Speaker 2: He absolutely smashed it. The other things I remember at

1092
01:00:51,587 --> 01:00:54,107
Speaker 2: boxing day tests going back all we will Simon Dall

1093
01:00:54,147 --> 01:00:56,347
Speaker 2: in the very first one against India in nineteen ninety

1094
01:00:56,387 --> 01:01:00,467
Speaker 2: eight took a seven foot seven four sixty five he

1095
01:01:00,547 --> 01:01:03,427
Speaker 2: took in the first innings and then in nineteen ninety

1096
01:01:03,547 --> 01:01:09,467
Speaker 2: nine Matthew Sinclair skippy a double one hundred on Test

1097
01:01:09,587 --> 01:01:12,627
Speaker 2: debut against the West Indies two hundred and fourteen. He

1098
01:01:12,707 --> 01:01:16,867
Speaker 2: got started batting on boxing day, finished it off on

1099
01:01:16,907 --> 01:01:22,347
Speaker 2: the twenty seventh, two hundred and fourteen on debut. Got

1100
01:01:22,467 --> 01:01:24,307
Speaker 2: to bring it back, Kevin, got to bring it back.

1101
01:01:25,307 --> 01:01:26,067
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, how are you?

1102
01:01:26,787 --> 01:01:27,227
Speaker 2: I'm good?

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01:01:28,427 --> 01:01:28,587
Speaker 7: Good?

1104
01:01:28,707 --> 01:01:28,867
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1105
01:01:28,907 --> 01:01:31,427
Speaker 16: Of course that's when I heard your discussion with Jim

1106
01:01:31,467 --> 01:01:35,947
Speaker 16: Mattswell from ABC Cricket. What's the idea of moving boxing

1107
01:01:36,027 --> 01:01:38,707
Speaker 16: the boxing day from the MCD to somewhere else that

1108
01:01:38,947 --> 01:01:40,547
Speaker 16: is out like sacriligious.

1109
01:01:42,387 --> 01:01:45,147
Speaker 2: I totally agree, Kevin, I totally agree, And like I say,

1110
01:01:45,187 --> 01:01:48,067
Speaker 2: this isn't our, this isn't our Cricket, shared Gill. It's Australias.

1111
01:01:48,107 --> 01:01:51,867
Speaker 2: But even the very thought of moving the boxing days,

1112
01:01:52,107 --> 01:01:54,507
Speaker 2: it's like moving Melbourne Cup away from the first Tuesday

1113
01:01:54,547 --> 01:01:56,667
Speaker 2: in November, or.

1114
01:01:56,747 --> 01:01:59,427
Speaker 16: Moving the all the idea of moving the Rupid League

1115
01:01:59,427 --> 01:02:03,427
Speaker 16: Grand Final from moving the Rupty League Grand fart of

1116
01:02:03,427 --> 01:02:06,667
Speaker 16: the Brisbane don't be apart from COVID. Let's see one.

1117
01:02:08,627 --> 01:02:10,947
Speaker 2: Look, I just don't see it happening, Kevin, I just

1118
01:02:10,987 --> 01:02:14,547
Speaker 2: don't see it happening. And look it's just Orsmond Kwaj's view.

1119
01:02:14,587 --> 01:02:16,467
Speaker 2: And I don't know what the context was, why what

1120
01:02:16,587 --> 01:02:17,947
Speaker 2: he was asked about. I know that there's a lot

1121
01:02:17,947 --> 01:02:19,387
Speaker 2: of chat about the big bash over there at the

1122
01:02:19,427 --> 01:02:21,867
Speaker 2: moment and how they can continue to compete with other

1123
01:02:22,227 --> 01:02:24,267
Speaker 2: T twenty leagues around the place, and he was probably

1124
01:02:24,347 --> 01:02:25,947
Speaker 2: just asked about it. He's always been a bit of

1125
01:02:25,987 --> 01:02:29,307
Speaker 2: a fan of privatization. I think wasman so interesting to

1126
01:02:29,347 --> 01:02:31,747
Speaker 2: hear him say that. I'd love it to come back,

1127
01:02:32,027 --> 01:02:35,427
Speaker 2: says Alexis and be a feature of our summer. I

1128
01:02:35,587 --> 01:02:37,547
Speaker 2: wonder though, if it's because the players need to be

1129
01:02:37,627 --> 01:02:40,947
Speaker 2: in camp on Christmas Day. Yeah, I mean I get that, Alexis,

1130
01:02:40,987 --> 01:02:44,187
Speaker 2: I do, but I think that's that was the case

1131
01:02:44,227 --> 01:02:45,787
Speaker 2: when they used to have it. And look, I don't

1132
01:02:45,787 --> 01:02:48,147
Speaker 2: think there's any player pushback here. I think they've said, I, look,

1133
01:02:48,187 --> 01:02:51,187
Speaker 2: we don't want to get together on Christmas Day. I think,

1134
01:02:51,267 --> 01:02:53,347
Speaker 2: you know, cricketers accept the fact that they have to

1135
01:02:53,427 --> 01:02:56,027
Speaker 2: be available in and around that summer period when the

1136
01:02:56,067 --> 01:02:58,747
Speaker 2: rest of us are sunning ourselves and enjoying far too

1137
01:02:58,827 --> 01:03:01,667
Speaker 2: much to eat and drink. I'd love to see a

1138
01:03:01,707 --> 01:03:03,827
Speaker 2: Test match starting in boxing down New Zealand says this

1139
01:03:03,947 --> 01:03:08,427
Speaker 2: one put it in their contracts. The Aussy Test match

1140
01:03:08,467 --> 01:03:12,307
Speaker 2: games here have seventy five thousand plus turnout on the

1141
01:03:12,347 --> 01:03:15,027
Speaker 2: first day. We need as much exposure and support to

1142
01:03:15,107 --> 01:03:17,827
Speaker 2: introduce more people to the game, King, says Pinty. I'm

1143
01:03:17,827 --> 01:03:21,067
Speaker 2: off to the Adelaide Test. Can't wait, Probably won't miss

1144
01:03:21,107 --> 01:03:23,307
Speaker 2: a ball over the whole series. Ken, you're speaking my language.

1145
01:03:23,347 --> 01:03:29,187
Speaker 2: I could quite easily, quite happily, if circumstances allowed, sit

1146
01:03:29,387 --> 01:03:33,027
Speaker 2: and watch every single delivery of a Test match and

1147
01:03:33,147 --> 01:03:38,107
Speaker 2: of a Test series. I could quite happily do that. Anyway,

1148
01:03:38,307 --> 01:03:41,187
Speaker 2: that's a discussion, perhaps also for another day. Twenty eight

1149
01:03:41,227 --> 01:03:43,747
Speaker 2: away from two, Otago, Bay of Plenty and Hawks Bay

1150
01:03:44,107 --> 01:03:46,227
Speaker 2: safely through to the semi finals of the Bunnings MPC.

1151
01:03:46,587 --> 01:03:48,987
Speaker 2: Bay have Pine scored twenty four unanswered points yesterday in

1152
01:03:49,027 --> 01:03:51,467
Speaker 2: tot On It to beat Tasman twenty seven to seven.

1153
01:03:51,747 --> 01:03:53,947
Speaker 2: Hawks Bay two good for Tallanhaki last night winning twenty

1154
01:03:53,987 --> 01:03:56,947
Speaker 2: six twelve in Napier caught a final number four Canterbury

1155
01:03:56,987 --> 01:04:00,467
Speaker 2: against County's Manico five past two this afternoon. If Canterbury win,

1156
01:04:00,947 --> 01:04:04,027
Speaker 2: they'll host Hawks Bay in the semis, with Otago against

1157
01:04:04,067 --> 01:04:06,507
Speaker 2: Bay of Plenty in the other one. If Counties were

1158
01:04:06,547 --> 01:04:08,947
Speaker 2: to win. This afternoon, they'll go to Dunedin to meet

1159
01:04:08,987 --> 01:04:11,947
Speaker 2: Otago and Bay of Plentywood host Hawks Bay to find

1160
01:04:11,947 --> 01:04:15,267
Speaker 2: out who the real Bay is now. As I said before,

1161
01:04:15,347 --> 01:04:18,467
Speaker 2: County Spanakaw have had the most extraordinary season. They lost

1162
01:04:18,507 --> 01:04:20,747
Speaker 2: their first five games, but then won their next five

1163
01:04:21,227 --> 01:04:24,107
Speaker 2: to sneak into the top eight. Their last four games

1164
01:04:24,147 --> 01:04:27,147
Speaker 2: have seen them win sixty four to ten, forty nine

1165
01:04:27,147 --> 01:04:29,827
Speaker 2: to twenty eight, forty eight twenty four and forty nine

1166
01:04:29,827 --> 01:04:31,907
Speaker 2: to forty one against Tasman a week ago. That's an

1167
01:04:31,907 --> 01:04:33,907
Speaker 2: average of fifty two and a half points per game

1168
01:04:33,947 --> 01:04:37,587
Speaker 2: in their last four. Full commentary from Apollo Project Stadi

1169
01:04:37,627 --> 01:04:40,907
Speaker 2: in This Afternoon available on gold Sport. Nick Buley, John

1170
01:04:40,907 --> 01:04:43,667
Speaker 2: Haggett and Craig Kerr have to call for you, Nick.

1171
01:04:43,707 --> 01:04:45,787
Speaker 2: I know Counties are in hot form, but they couldn't

1172
01:04:45,827 --> 01:04:47,467
Speaker 2: possibly beat Canterbury too, could they?

1173
01:04:48,507 --> 01:04:51,547
Speaker 17: Good afternoons you Piney, Yeah, I'm not too sure. It's

1174
01:04:51,587 --> 01:04:53,707
Speaker 17: so hard to read this team, isn't it. And as

1175
01:04:53,747 --> 01:04:56,347
Speaker 17: you sort of outline there the season of two halves,

1176
01:04:56,627 --> 01:04:59,187
Speaker 17: I guess my greatest concern is who they have beaten.

1177
01:05:00,027 --> 01:05:04,587
Speaker 17: With the greatest respect to Southland Harbor Auckland and Munawa two.

1178
01:05:04,787 --> 01:05:07,707
Speaker 14: All those four teams aren't here in the quarterfinals.

1179
01:05:07,787 --> 01:05:10,267
Speaker 17: Tasman were of course that forty nine to forty one win,

1180
01:05:10,907 --> 01:05:12,547
Speaker 17: but you can't dismiss the way in which they have

1181
01:05:12,627 --> 01:05:13,827
Speaker 17: gone about scoring points.

1182
01:05:14,187 --> 01:05:16,267
Speaker 14: Attending Nanai Satro at fallback.

1183
01:05:16,387 --> 01:05:20,187
Speaker 17: Is that another tremendous season in the Bunnings NPC Gibson

1184
01:05:20,267 --> 01:05:23,627
Speaker 17: porpore Letty as well at second five eighth with's seven tries.

1185
01:05:23,787 --> 01:05:26,547
Speaker 17: So look, it's a lovely day here compared to what

1186
01:05:26,627 --> 01:05:29,107
Speaker 17: it was seven days ago when it rained almost all

1187
01:05:29,187 --> 01:05:31,787
Speaker 17: weekend here in christ Church for that Canterbury Tartanaki game.

1188
01:05:31,867 --> 01:05:34,907
Speaker 17: So there'll be no excuses in terms of the style

1189
01:05:34,947 --> 01:05:36,907
Speaker 17: of rugby that counties like to play. But you just

1190
01:05:36,947 --> 01:05:39,667
Speaker 17: look at Canterbury. You look at how methodical they are

1191
01:05:39,787 --> 01:05:41,907
Speaker 17: and the way they go about their business. You know,

1192
01:05:42,027 --> 01:05:44,787
Speaker 17: holding a Tartanaki team last week to just fourteen points.

1193
01:05:45,587 --> 01:05:48,347
Speaker 17: It's going to be a tool order. But stranger things

1194
01:05:48,387 --> 01:05:50,307
Speaker 17: have happened this season, pinting we shall, yes they.

1195
01:05:50,267 --> 01:05:52,147
Speaker 2: Have, Yeah we will, and say looking forward to hearing

1196
01:05:52,187 --> 01:05:54,707
Speaker 2: how it all plays out now. Andrew news Stubbs at

1197
01:05:54,747 --> 01:05:56,907
Speaker 2: first five. He's played just about everywhere in the team

1198
01:05:56,987 --> 01:06:00,867
Speaker 2: this season. How have you assessed his ability to transition

1199
01:06:00,987 --> 01:06:04,067
Speaker 2: between positions but also to run the cutter for the

1200
01:06:04,107 --> 01:06:04,627
Speaker 2: Red and Blacks.

1201
01:06:04,627 --> 01:06:07,387
Speaker 17: Well, look, I'll bring in my exper co commentator, John

1202
01:06:07,387 --> 01:06:09,947
Speaker 17: Haggard's played a bit of first five eighth Piney's sitting

1203
01:06:09,987 --> 01:06:10,667
Speaker 17: to my right, Hags.

1204
01:06:10,667 --> 01:06:12,187
Speaker 14: What do you made at a new start this season?

1205
01:06:12,827 --> 01:06:13,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been.

1206
01:06:13,587 --> 01:06:15,267
Speaker 18: He's been in one of the better players with Canterbury's

1207
01:06:15,267 --> 01:06:18,547
Speaker 18: certainly a very challenged athlete, obviously played a lot of sevens.

1208
01:06:19,387 --> 01:06:20,867
Speaker 18: You know, he's really brought a bit of control into

1209
01:06:20,907 --> 01:06:23,467
Speaker 18: that Cannoby pivot position and he certainly knows how to

1210
01:06:23,867 --> 01:06:25,827
Speaker 18: drive the team around. I do like the way that

1211
01:06:25,827 --> 01:06:27,027
Speaker 18: he likes to have a bit of a look and

1212
01:06:27,067 --> 01:06:29,387
Speaker 18: a bit of a dart. Got a really good vision

1213
01:06:29,507 --> 01:06:31,547
Speaker 18: and he can set that back line away pretty well.

1214
01:06:31,627 --> 01:06:35,667
Speaker 18: So yeahs as we talked about Nick talked about the weather,

1215
01:06:35,827 --> 01:06:38,627
Speaker 18: great weather. As I know Andrew new Stub will love

1216
01:06:38,667 --> 01:06:40,827
Speaker 18: playing in this sort of conditions. So yeah, look out

1217
01:06:40,907 --> 01:06:42,507
Speaker 18: for a bit of excitement this afternoon.

1218
01:06:42,907 --> 01:06:46,947
Speaker 2: Now further back, guys, Chaffee hockey at fallback, there's an

1219
01:06:46,987 --> 01:06:50,227
Speaker 2: All Blacks touring squad being named tomorrow. I Monti Nadowa

1220
01:06:50,307 --> 01:06:53,747
Speaker 2: won't tour through injury. There's probably a spot open in

1221
01:06:53,867 --> 01:06:56,427
Speaker 2: the back three. Could Chaffee Hackey be on the plane.

1222
01:06:57,307 --> 01:06:59,027
Speaker 14: It's a good question. I know he's been there or

1223
01:06:59,027 --> 01:07:00,907
Speaker 14: thereabouts last year.

1224
01:07:00,987 --> 01:07:03,707
Speaker 17: I think if he's not in the thirty six man

1225
01:07:04,067 --> 01:07:05,347
Speaker 17: squad for the All Blacks, he will be in the

1226
01:07:05,387 --> 01:07:07,667
Speaker 17: mix of that All Blacks team that is going to

1227
01:07:07,707 --> 01:07:11,107
Speaker 17: be coached by Jamie Joseph. But there's another player too, Piney.

1228
01:07:11,147 --> 01:07:13,867
Speaker 17: He's got plenty of X factor about him versus tility,

1229
01:07:13,907 --> 01:07:16,707
Speaker 17: big punts, very good under the high ball, and we

1230
01:07:16,827 --> 01:07:19,827
Speaker 17: know how much the modern game in twenty twenty five,

1231
01:07:20,067 --> 01:07:22,027
Speaker 17: A lot of it is one in the ear and

1232
01:07:22,107 --> 01:07:25,387
Speaker 17: the contestable kicks. So look, I'm intrigued to see how

1233
01:07:25,427 --> 01:07:27,587
Speaker 17: Schaffee Hockey go. I personally think he's better on the

1234
01:07:27,627 --> 01:07:29,707
Speaker 17: right wing than he is at fullback, but such has

1235
01:07:29,747 --> 01:07:32,667
Speaker 17: been the case with injuries to like Sir Johnny mcnicholey

1236
01:07:32,747 --> 01:07:35,027
Speaker 17: is slotted back at fullback this afternoon. But it is

1237
01:07:35,387 --> 01:07:39,427
Speaker 17: another opportunity for Schaffee Hockey, among others, to stake a

1238
01:07:39,547 --> 01:07:41,307
Speaker 17: claim before that team comes out tomorrow.

1239
01:07:41,747 --> 01:07:43,547
Speaker 2: And Hagg's I want to ask about Otago as well

1240
01:07:43,627 --> 01:07:45,947
Speaker 2: who got there the other night against Waikato courtesy of

1241
01:07:45,987 --> 01:07:49,427
Speaker 2: that very late penalty. But another really impressive win for them,

1242
01:07:49,467 --> 01:07:51,827
Speaker 2: and what has been a very impressive season. We may

1243
01:07:51,907 --> 01:07:54,867
Speaker 2: well be on a collision course Canniburry v Otago in

1244
01:07:54,947 --> 01:07:57,147
Speaker 2: the Bunnings MPC final. I'm not quite sure where your

1245
01:07:57,187 --> 01:07:59,947
Speaker 2: allegiance would lie. But Otago, have you been in pressed

1246
01:07:59,987 --> 01:08:00,267
Speaker 2: with them?

1247
01:08:01,147 --> 01:08:01,347
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1248
01:08:01,387 --> 01:08:01,667
Speaker 5: How good?

1249
01:08:01,667 --> 01:08:02,907
Speaker 2: Would be a great final, wouldn't it?

1250
01:08:02,987 --> 01:08:03,147
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1251
01:08:03,507 --> 01:08:04,307
Speaker 2: Targo the real deal.

1252
01:08:04,667 --> 01:08:07,707
Speaker 18: Certainly, they played a lot of spirit, got a bit

1253
01:08:07,707 --> 01:08:09,107
Speaker 18: of X factor there and a lot of the number

1254
01:08:09,107 --> 01:08:10,907
Speaker 18: of their players in the middle of another way, he

1255
01:08:10,987 --> 01:08:12,547
Speaker 18: just drives a team around the park and they're stay

1256
01:08:12,587 --> 01:08:14,307
Speaker 18: in games. You know, they never give up. They look

1257
01:08:14,307 --> 01:08:15,987
Speaker 18: as though they've lost their couple of times, but no,

1258
01:08:16,347 --> 01:08:18,667
Speaker 18: the old grit determination. If the Blue and Gold comes out,

1259
01:08:18,827 --> 01:08:21,227
Speaker 18: so yep, it's going to be a good one next

1260
01:08:21,267 --> 01:08:23,307
Speaker 18: week in the semi final for them, and if Kennerby

1261
01:08:23,347 --> 01:08:24,947
Speaker 18: gets through today, they could be on track to meet

1262
01:08:24,987 --> 01:08:25,267
Speaker 18: each other.

1263
01:08:25,787 --> 01:08:30,307
Speaker 2: All right, So conditions, as you've outlined are very very good.

1264
01:08:30,347 --> 01:08:32,427
Speaker 2: But a running rugby we've seen some high scoring, haven't we.

1265
01:08:32,507 --> 01:08:34,747
Speaker 2: And even that game I just mentioned, the forty four

1266
01:08:34,787 --> 01:08:37,267
Speaker 2: to forty one. It was slightly tidy yesterday, not quite

1267
01:08:37,267 --> 01:08:40,027
Speaker 2: as as many points scored. But what are we looking at?

1268
01:08:40,027 --> 01:08:42,547
Speaker 2: I mean, Canterbury really are quite firm favorites. I'm looking

1269
01:08:42,587 --> 01:08:44,987
Speaker 2: at the at the tab on it's a dollar twelve

1270
01:08:45,107 --> 01:08:47,787
Speaker 2: to Counties five seventy five. But are we Are we

1271
01:08:47,867 --> 01:08:49,747
Speaker 2: looking at a trifas this afternoon or not?

1272
01:08:50,787 --> 01:08:51,267
Speaker 14: I think so.

1273
01:08:51,547 --> 01:08:53,787
Speaker 17: And the one thing I would say here in christ

1274
01:08:53,867 --> 01:08:55,987
Speaker 17: chitch Pine is if it's a good day, you can

1275
01:08:56,027 --> 01:08:58,787
Speaker 17: beat your bottom dollar. There's a Northwest to go alongside

1276
01:08:58,827 --> 01:09:03,587
Speaker 17: it that's sweeping through from the north, from the northwest obviously,

1277
01:09:03,707 --> 01:09:07,787
Speaker 17: but end to end. So whatever team probably wins the tossle,

1278
01:09:07,787 --> 01:09:09,867
Speaker 17: we'll like to play with that early on and we'll

1279
01:09:09,867 --> 01:09:11,787
Speaker 17: have that at their backs. I think you look at

1280
01:09:12,027 --> 01:09:14,467
Speaker 17: just the stats from the round robin Cannabury fifty two

1281
01:09:14,507 --> 01:09:17,667
Speaker 17: tries for the season, County's Banker forty nine, and I

1282
01:09:17,747 --> 01:09:19,427
Speaker 17: think at least three quarters of them are coming the

1283
01:09:19,507 --> 01:09:24,507
Speaker 17: last month or so, so I think it'll be high scoring. However,

1284
01:09:24,547 --> 01:09:27,947
Speaker 17: as I mentioned at the top, Canterbury very clinical defensively,

1285
01:09:28,147 --> 01:09:31,467
Speaker 17: guys like Tom Christie leading the competition for tackles. They're

1286
01:09:31,547 --> 01:09:34,747
Speaker 17: right up there for dominant tackles as well. So yeah,

1287
01:09:35,227 --> 01:09:37,907
Speaker 17: I suspect the high scoring one given the conditions, given

1288
01:09:37,987 --> 01:09:39,707
Speaker 17: what these two teams have to offer on attack. But

1289
01:09:39,787 --> 01:09:42,747
Speaker 17: at the same time too, Canterbury certainly a tough aster,

1290
01:09:43,107 --> 01:09:45,267
Speaker 17: a tough nut to crack, so to speak, at their

1291
01:09:45,307 --> 01:09:46,867
Speaker 17: defensive end excellently.

1292
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Speaker 2: That's great curve as sideline for us this afternoon. Is

1293
01:09:49,107 --> 01:09:50,667
Speaker 2: he is he turned up? Is he ready to go?

1294
01:09:51,147 --> 01:09:55,067
Speaker 14: He's just got dry from last week, pinty, but he

1295
01:09:55,227 --> 01:09:55,827
Speaker 14: is ready to go.

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01:09:56,027 --> 01:09:59,467
Speaker 17: He's got the shorts and the jandle's on and he

1297
01:09:59,627 --> 01:10:02,147
Speaker 17: is very much looking forward to today comfit to last week.

1298
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Speaker 2: Let me tell you that what a picture of paint.

1299
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Speaker 2: What a picture of paint. Have a great, great call, guys,

1300
01:10:06,587 --> 01:10:08,867
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. That's Nick Bailey, our lead commentator

1301
01:10:08,947 --> 01:10:12,427
Speaker 2: in christ Jetch alongside John Haggett with Craig Curse sideline.

1302
01:10:12,427 --> 01:10:14,507
Speaker 2: If you'd like to hear commentary of the game, easy

1303
01:10:14,587 --> 01:10:17,227
Speaker 2: enough to do Gold Sport on your radio or via

1304
01:10:17,427 --> 01:10:20,867
Speaker 2: iHeart Radio. They have the four core for you of

1305
01:10:21,467 --> 01:10:24,947
Speaker 2: Canterbury against Counties from ten past two this afternoon. So

1306
01:10:25,147 --> 01:10:27,747
Speaker 2: as I say, Otago Bay of Plenty and Hawks Bay

1307
01:10:28,227 --> 01:10:30,947
Speaker 2: have all safely won through to the semi so the

1308
01:10:31,027 --> 01:10:35,227
Speaker 2: home sides the top seeds all going through. Canterbury odds

1309
01:10:35,307 --> 01:10:37,707
Speaker 2: on to make that four from four are the top

1310
01:10:37,787 --> 01:10:40,347
Speaker 2: four moving through to the semis. If they were to

1311
01:10:40,467 --> 01:10:44,627
Speaker 2: win this afternoon, Canterbury would host Hawks Bay in the

1312
01:10:44,707 --> 01:10:48,147
Speaker 2: semi finals next weekend and Otago would come up against

1313
01:10:48,187 --> 01:10:51,107
Speaker 2: Bay of Plenty in the other one. If Counties were

1314
01:10:51,147 --> 01:10:53,147
Speaker 2: to win this afternoon, and as Nick Bailey said, you know,

1315
01:10:53,227 --> 01:10:55,867
Speaker 2: stranger things have happened, it would be a strange thing

1316
01:10:55,947 --> 01:10:59,667
Speaker 2: to happen. But Counties certainly have momentum on their side,

1317
01:11:00,027 --> 01:11:03,347
Speaker 2: five straight wins and scoring tries for fun, letting a

1318
01:11:03,387 --> 01:11:05,347
Speaker 2: few win at the other end of course. But you know,

1319
01:11:05,467 --> 01:11:08,187
Speaker 2: if they were to this afternoon, then they would go

1320
01:11:08,347 --> 01:11:11,987
Speaker 2: to Dunedin to play Otago next weekend and it would

1321
01:11:12,027 --> 01:11:14,387
Speaker 2: be the battle of the bays. Bay of Plenty and

1322
01:11:14,587 --> 01:11:17,507
Speaker 2: Hawks Bay up in Todong in the other semi final.

1323
01:11:17,907 --> 01:11:21,867
Speaker 2: It's the less likely of the scenarios, but that's why

1324
01:11:21,947 --> 01:11:26,667
Speaker 2: we love sport, because strange things sometimes happen. Twenty to two,

1325
01:11:27,347 --> 01:11:29,467
Speaker 2: five minutes away from a start at Bathurst, We'll take

1326
01:11:29,507 --> 01:11:32,507
Speaker 2: a break come back. James mcconey in his regular Sunday slot.

1327
01:11:32,587 --> 01:11:35,187
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1328
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1330
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Speaker 2: Dogs n B seventeen away from two on text. Nothing

1331
01:11:45,947 --> 01:11:49,187
Speaker 2: better than a lazy boxing day at the cricket with

1332
01:11:49,347 --> 01:11:54,147
Speaker 2: the best packed lunch you'll ever eat, Christmas leftovers, ham cake,

1333
01:11:54,787 --> 01:11:59,467
Speaker 2: the works. How good James mcconey on a Sunday is

1334
01:11:59,507 --> 01:12:02,387
Speaker 2: always you'd be a fan of a boxing day cricket

1335
01:12:02,467 --> 01:12:03,987
Speaker 2: test return, wouldn't you?

1336
01:12:04,987 --> 01:12:08,427
Speaker 5: Look, I'm open to thing pony really, you know me?

1337
01:12:08,627 --> 01:12:10,827
Speaker 5: But maybe what about the would you be happy with

1338
01:12:10,867 --> 01:12:13,507
Speaker 5: the twenty seventh? I mean, do we need to compete

1339
01:12:13,587 --> 01:12:17,307
Speaker 5: with Australia because I'm just wondering whether if we stagger

1340
01:12:17,427 --> 01:12:19,347
Speaker 5: it it might be might work. Well, I mean I'm

1341
01:12:19,387 --> 01:12:21,467
Speaker 5: boxing now. I'm just trying to buy a cheap laptop

1342
01:12:21,507 --> 01:12:23,507
Speaker 5: from Harvey Norman, you know, like everyone.

1343
01:12:23,267 --> 01:12:26,747
Speaker 2: Else, I'm just trying to return my unwanted said Christmas

1344
01:12:26,827 --> 01:12:28,307
Speaker 2: gifts exactly.

1345
01:12:29,387 --> 01:12:31,347
Speaker 5: There's a lot of admin on boxing days.

1346
01:12:32,147 --> 01:12:34,707
Speaker 2: That's a very good point you make, actually, and other

1347
01:12:34,787 --> 01:12:36,747
Speaker 2: events too. I think the Elleslie Racers are on boxing

1348
01:12:36,787 --> 01:12:39,187
Speaker 2: now another bits and pieces too, so you maybe a

1349
01:12:39,227 --> 01:12:41,147
Speaker 2: bit of clear air, maybe boxing. They can be an

1350
01:12:41,187 --> 01:12:44,387
Speaker 2: admin day and then we have the twenty seventh through

1351
01:12:44,467 --> 01:12:45,907
Speaker 2: until New Year's even stead.

1352
01:12:46,707 --> 01:12:49,867
Speaker 5: Yeah, how about that. We can do this money twenty seventh,

1353
01:12:49,987 --> 01:12:50,547
Speaker 5: make it happen.

1354
01:12:50,987 --> 01:12:53,747
Speaker 2: I've written it down, okay. In PC, I have loved

1355
01:12:53,867 --> 01:12:57,787
Speaker 2: the NPC this season and I really enjoyed watching both

1356
01:12:57,827 --> 01:13:00,787
Speaker 2: of the quarterfinals yesterday as well as Otaga winning on

1357
01:13:00,867 --> 01:13:03,347
Speaker 2: Friday night. Or have you and you must have enjoyed

1358
01:13:03,347 --> 01:13:05,667
Speaker 2: it to I know you love your provincial rugby.

1359
01:13:06,667 --> 01:13:08,867
Speaker 5: I really do, and I don't mind Otaga winning. I

1360
01:13:08,907 --> 01:13:11,707
Speaker 5: think Whitecotts will. Getting the benefit of three All Blacks

1361
01:13:11,747 --> 01:13:13,547
Speaker 5: coming back was a bit of a cheap code for

1362
01:13:13,667 --> 01:13:17,027
Speaker 5: them and a great game, but good on Otago. I'm

1363
01:13:17,067 --> 01:13:21,107
Speaker 5: glad they went through just for the storyline really, because

1364
01:13:21,507 --> 01:13:23,947
Speaker 5: I've got some players who are playing out of their

1365
01:13:24,027 --> 01:13:27,627
Speaker 5: skin who may even be bolted in the near future.

1366
01:13:27,667 --> 01:13:29,867
Speaker 5: And I'm talking about Dylan Pledger of course, a little

1367
01:13:29,907 --> 01:13:34,947
Speaker 5: half back, and Lucas Casey that open so Flanka from

1368
01:13:35,067 --> 01:13:39,627
Speaker 5: Kenny Kenny who just keeps on scoring vital tries and

1369
01:13:39,787 --> 01:13:44,067
Speaker 5: has legit Wheels. I mean it's just a matter of time. Really,

1370
01:13:44,147 --> 01:13:45,307
Speaker 5: surely you have to.

1371
01:13:45,347 --> 01:13:48,147
Speaker 2: Think so, right, And that's what the NPC has always

1372
01:13:48,267 --> 01:13:50,627
Speaker 2: done as thrown up guys who most of us had

1373
01:13:50,707 --> 01:13:53,107
Speaker 2: never heard of, and then they have a terrific season,

1374
01:13:53,107 --> 01:13:54,787
Speaker 2: they end up in Super Rugby and then you know,

1375
01:13:55,067 --> 01:13:57,547
Speaker 2: then it is up to them, I guess, to take

1376
01:13:57,947 --> 01:14:00,347
Speaker 2: the next steps. But yeah, I mean, part from the

1377
01:14:00,387 --> 01:14:03,587
Speaker 2: fact that my Wellington was so terrible this year, I

1378
01:14:03,747 --> 01:14:07,587
Speaker 2: have loved it. Canterbury Counties, Counties any chance. This afternoon

1379
01:14:07,627 --> 01:14:09,747
Speaker 2: we just had Nick biorling the team on from christ Church.

1380
01:14:10,307 --> 01:14:13,267
Speaker 2: They're obviously favors, but Counties have been cheapen. I've been

1381
01:14:13,307 --> 01:14:14,867
Speaker 2: pretty prolific in the last few weeks.

1382
01:14:15,947 --> 01:14:18,827
Speaker 5: Yeah, the other team with genuine Razzell Poney. I know

1383
01:14:18,947 --> 01:14:23,107
Speaker 5: you love Razell and so I think that there's but

1384
01:14:23,227 --> 01:14:26,307
Speaker 5: there's more to it than that, Like speaking of loose forwards,

1385
01:14:26,387 --> 01:14:29,987
Speaker 5: they've really got a great trio with Dalton Papa le

1386
01:14:30,347 --> 01:14:32,867
Speaker 5: just shifting over to the blindside, I think at the

1387
01:14:32,947 --> 01:14:36,307
Speaker 5: behest of the all black selectors who sort of wanted

1388
01:14:36,347 --> 01:14:39,227
Speaker 5: to see him at number six, but that's allowed others

1389
01:14:39,667 --> 01:14:43,907
Speaker 5: to flourish in those other two positions and so the

1390
01:14:44,027 --> 01:14:46,547
Speaker 5: four packs going, well, you know, Jimmy Tupo, you need

1391
01:14:46,627 --> 01:14:49,787
Speaker 5: that veteran presence, but it's the midfield. I just wanted

1392
01:14:49,827 --> 01:14:52,627
Speaker 5: to focus on a little bit. Gibson Poppa Lee, who

1393
01:14:52,707 --> 01:14:57,747
Speaker 5: I think leads in terms of yards after contact, several

1394
01:14:57,827 --> 01:15:03,027
Speaker 5: stats at second five. Just a battleship really and he's

1395
01:15:03,467 --> 01:15:05,827
Speaker 5: full steam ahead. And then to be the author who

1396
01:15:05,987 --> 01:15:09,307
Speaker 5: people have seen play from Wina Pacifica and other other teams.

1397
01:15:09,347 --> 01:15:12,227
Speaker 5: He is a classy center and I just think that

1398
01:15:12,307 --> 01:15:16,267
Speaker 5: they sort of just open up for the champagn rugby

1399
01:15:16,347 --> 01:15:18,947
Speaker 5: that we expect from Counties. One other player as well,

1400
01:15:19,707 --> 01:15:23,587
Speaker 5: Yowani moor Nanu, the hooker we saw play for the Crusaders.

1401
01:15:23,907 --> 01:15:25,947
Speaker 5: I mean, he's scored a sixty meter chip in chase

1402
01:15:26,027 --> 01:15:29,747
Speaker 5: in the NBC last year Trive and is and he

1403
01:15:30,027 --> 01:15:32,787
Speaker 5: looks like he's another one who could be pushing for

1404
01:15:32,867 --> 01:15:35,067
Speaker 5: all black selection in the very near future.

1405
01:15:35,507 --> 01:15:37,827
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about all black selection in the very

1406
01:15:38,147 --> 01:15:41,907
Speaker 2: very very near future. Tomorrow, in fact, around eleven thirty,

1407
01:15:41,907 --> 01:15:45,147
Speaker 2: they're going to unveil the touring squad for the Northern

1408
01:15:45,187 --> 01:15:47,347
Speaker 2: Hemisphere Tour, which of course takes in the Test against

1409
01:15:47,387 --> 01:15:50,507
Speaker 2: Ireland in Chicago as well. A couple of injuries will

1410
01:15:50,547 --> 01:15:53,467
Speaker 2: mean that new faces are introduced. Are we going to

1411
01:15:53,547 --> 01:15:57,147
Speaker 2: see any new All Blacks guys who haven't been involved before.

1412
01:15:58,347 --> 01:16:01,027
Speaker 5: Well, I think Jimple just seems to me like he's

1413
01:16:01,027 --> 01:16:05,827
Speaker 5: probably got the best chance of getting a tour at halfback.

1414
01:16:05,947 --> 01:16:09,107
Speaker 5: But then you know, when you think about those other injuries,

1415
01:16:09,147 --> 01:16:12,387
Speaker 5: there will be a couple of opportunities. I mean, I

1416
01:16:12,547 --> 01:16:15,347
Speaker 5: do like the idea of even I noticed in the

1417
01:16:15,387 --> 01:16:18,827
Speaker 5: loose forwards that people making noises about Devin Flanders, and

1418
01:16:18,947 --> 01:16:23,267
Speaker 5: I like Flanders. You know, Homer Simpson didn't, but I'm

1419
01:16:23,307 --> 01:16:25,307
Speaker 5: a big fan of him, and I think that, you know,

1420
01:16:25,507 --> 01:16:29,867
Speaker 5: there's room for a veteran presence, and the Lucy's someone

1421
01:16:29,907 --> 01:16:32,867
Speaker 5: who is a drafter. So I just thought of heard

1422
01:16:32,907 --> 01:16:34,867
Speaker 5: his name popping up, Andy, that it had popped up

1423
01:16:34,907 --> 01:16:36,107
Speaker 5: on your show, Pony Well.

1424
01:16:36,147 --> 01:16:38,587
Speaker 2: I wondered whether Caleb Tounguetowel might be an option in

1425
01:16:38,627 --> 01:16:40,307
Speaker 2: the back three. I'm not sure if he's fit again,

1426
01:16:40,387 --> 01:16:42,627
Speaker 2: I think he is, but he was the other one

1427
01:16:43,107 --> 01:16:47,427
Speaker 2: whose name I heard mentioned. He feels like he's going

1428
01:16:47,507 --> 01:16:49,107
Speaker 2: to be an All Black at some stage. Could it

1429
01:16:49,187 --> 01:16:49,787
Speaker 2: be tomorrow?

1430
01:16:50,547 --> 01:16:52,587
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Tangy Taylor is the one who Raised

1431
01:16:53,067 --> 01:16:56,147
Speaker 5: was very excited by during Super Rugby. Then he got injured.

1432
01:16:56,347 --> 01:17:00,627
Speaker 5: And even though I think Raiser himself proclaimed that Lerocrda

1433
01:17:00,747 --> 01:17:03,587
Speaker 5: was the fastest man in New Zealand rugby, I spoke

1434
01:17:03,667 --> 01:17:07,867
Speaker 5: to Leroy himself and he did confirm that Tell was

1435
01:17:07,947 --> 01:17:11,867
Speaker 5: quicker than him and was indeed there in the sevens together,

1436
01:17:12,027 --> 01:17:15,227
Speaker 5: so they know. And I think having that elite pace

1437
01:17:15,747 --> 01:17:18,947
Speaker 5: makes a really big difference. And so it's probably a

1438
01:17:18,987 --> 01:17:21,747
Speaker 5: good segue, actually elite pace, Pony, because we could move

1439
01:17:21,827 --> 01:17:27,307
Speaker 5: on to the Warrior's new signing pera from the Titans.

1440
01:17:27,667 --> 01:17:29,587
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's a great segue. So why don't you

1441
01:17:29,667 --> 01:17:31,787
Speaker 2: pick up that segue and run with it as fast

1442
01:17:31,787 --> 01:17:32,307
Speaker 2: as he might.

1443
01:17:33,987 --> 01:17:35,187
Speaker 4: This is the one thing that we.

1444
01:17:35,507 --> 01:17:37,667
Speaker 5: Have been missing for the wise. Let's be honest, we

1445
01:17:37,827 --> 01:17:41,827
Speaker 5: just don't have elite gas. I mean, yeah, Roger is

1446
01:17:42,507 --> 01:17:45,587
Speaker 5: still a supreme athlete, but in terms of out mount pace,

1447
01:17:45,667 --> 01:17:50,547
Speaker 5: Potata has scored so many try fastest to fifty tries

1448
01:17:50,587 --> 01:17:54,667
Speaker 5: in the NRL. That's a record. So we've got someone

1449
01:17:54,707 --> 01:17:57,267
Speaker 5: who's an absolute flyer. I think it makes a really

1450
01:17:57,307 --> 01:18:00,467
Speaker 5: big difference. You look at that NRL Grand Final. What

1451
01:18:00,667 --> 01:18:03,907
Speaker 5: stood out for you? I mean, Reese Walsh, just that

1452
01:18:04,067 --> 01:18:08,107
Speaker 5: elite pace makes all the difference, isn't it. So at

1453
01:18:08,147 --> 01:18:10,787
Speaker 5: the moment, I'd say how fastest player might be Leka Halathena,

1454
01:18:10,867 --> 01:18:13,707
Speaker 5: certainly over twenty meters. But this is this is big

1455
01:18:13,867 --> 01:18:16,267
Speaker 5: and probably a bit of a bummer for Dallen White

1456
01:18:16,307 --> 01:18:19,107
Speaker 5: Seni's a lesniak because I guess that's where he might

1457
01:18:19,187 --> 01:18:20,027
Speaker 5: slide in on the wing.

1458
01:18:20,587 --> 01:18:22,627
Speaker 2: Now, the other person I've seen linked with a move

1459
01:18:22,667 --> 01:18:25,147
Speaker 2: to the Warriors is and this isn't on your list,

1460
01:18:25,227 --> 01:18:27,147
Speaker 2: so my apologies for dropping this on you. As one

1461
01:18:27,187 --> 01:18:30,947
Speaker 2: of New Zealand's brightest and most recognizable young talents, and

1462
01:18:31,027 --> 01:18:34,467
Speaker 2: that's Harry Inch out of Tasman. He's long been regarded

1463
01:18:34,507 --> 01:18:36,707
Speaker 2: as a guy from his time at Nelson College who

1464
01:18:36,747 --> 01:18:39,187
Speaker 2: could go a long way in the fifteen man game.

1465
01:18:39,227 --> 01:18:42,627
Speaker 2: But apparently he signed or has certainly expressed interest in

1466
01:18:42,747 --> 01:18:44,667
Speaker 2: going to rugby league. Have you heard these stories?

1467
01:18:45,507 --> 01:18:48,627
Speaker 5: Yeah, I heard that quite a while ago. Actually, Harry Inch, Yeah,

1468
01:18:48,667 --> 01:18:51,027
Speaker 5: out of Nelson College. He was you know, he's a

1469
01:18:51,147 --> 01:18:53,547
Speaker 5: really good show and go first five, loves to run,

1470
01:18:54,067 --> 01:18:57,987
Speaker 5: take on the line. I think that the Warriors courted him,

1471
01:18:58,507 --> 01:19:00,787
Speaker 5: you know, kind of like they went all out. I

1472
01:19:00,827 --> 01:19:05,387
Speaker 5: mean they helicoptered him up from Nelson to to Anie Hunger.

1473
01:19:05,507 --> 01:19:09,107
Speaker 5: They think Monty Betha met him at the holliport. They

1474
01:19:09,227 --> 01:19:12,467
Speaker 5: showed him around the Warriors and you know, pretty much

1475
01:19:12,587 --> 01:19:15,267
Speaker 5: wind him and dined him and then send him down

1476
01:19:15,347 --> 01:19:18,427
Speaker 5: to back down to Nelson. But he always had aspirations

1477
01:19:18,947 --> 01:19:21,787
Speaker 5: of playing for the All Blacks, so I thought that

1478
01:19:21,947 --> 01:19:25,227
Speaker 5: might have been off the table. But maybe it's back on.

1479
01:19:25,507 --> 01:19:28,347
Speaker 5: Maybe he's just sort of reading the tea leaves and things.

1480
01:19:28,387 --> 01:19:30,907
Speaker 5: It's worth a nudge because I mean, why not. I

1481
01:19:30,987 --> 01:19:34,667
Speaker 5: think the Warriors really want him and he could probably

1482
01:19:34,707 --> 01:19:37,387
Speaker 5: see himself playing first grade sooner than later.

1483
01:19:38,107 --> 01:19:40,147
Speaker 2: All right, to finish today when I ask about the

1484
01:19:40,227 --> 01:19:43,067
Speaker 2: New York Giants, who've been terrible for a wee while,

1485
01:19:43,187 --> 01:19:45,227
Speaker 2: but they have found some new hope.

1486
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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is for fans of teams who they who

1487
01:19:49,587 --> 01:19:52,747
Speaker 5: were kind of in the dole drums. Really, I'm talking

1488
01:19:52,787 --> 01:19:56,147
Speaker 5: about West Tiger's fan in the NRL. Maybe there's an

1489
01:19:56,147 --> 01:19:59,787
Speaker 5: Everton fan out there from English football, you know those

1490
01:20:00,107 --> 01:20:01,827
Speaker 5: they just can't see any hope. But this is a

1491
01:20:01,907 --> 01:20:05,867
Speaker 5: team that was similarly struggling, got rid of the best player,

1492
01:20:05,947 --> 01:20:10,907
Speaker 5: say Qui Barclay, a running back, but instead now they've drafted, well,

1493
01:20:11,067 --> 01:20:14,467
Speaker 5: got a quarterback called Jackson Dart. Great name for a quarterback,

1494
01:20:14,467 --> 01:20:18,427
Speaker 5: wouldn't you agree? I do Dart? Yes? And then Cam

1495
01:20:18,587 --> 01:20:22,067
Speaker 5: Scatterboo even better name for the running back who sends

1496
01:20:22,107 --> 01:20:26,747
Speaker 5: people scattering. And he scored three touchdowns I think in

1497
01:20:26,827 --> 01:20:29,667
Speaker 5: their last game. And my might have been before when

1498
01:20:29,667 --> 01:20:32,227
Speaker 5: I was three, I believe. But anyway, these guys have

1499
01:20:32,307 --> 01:20:35,547
Speaker 5: come together are great mates. They're very gen z that

1500
01:20:35,787 --> 01:20:39,387
Speaker 5: kind of like this new generation coming through and just

1501
01:20:39,627 --> 01:20:42,507
Speaker 5: have transformed that team. I know it's only one win,

1502
01:20:42,747 --> 01:20:45,187
Speaker 5: but it was against the Philadelphia Eagles who won the

1503
01:20:45,547 --> 01:20:48,307
Speaker 5: Super Bowls. So watch this space. I mean, that's the thing.

1504
01:20:48,507 --> 01:20:51,267
Speaker 5: If you've got a team that kind of sucks, two

1505
01:20:51,347 --> 01:20:52,707
Speaker 5: players can make all the difference.

1506
01:20:54,507 --> 01:20:56,707
Speaker 2: It's always great chatting to you, James. Thanks for joining

1507
01:20:56,747 --> 01:20:58,787
Speaker 2: us this afternoon, mate. Enjoy the rest of you all weekend,

1508
01:20:58,867 --> 01:21:00,787
Speaker 2: and we will catch up again next Sunday if that

1509
01:21:00,827 --> 01:21:01,347
Speaker 2: fits with you.

1510
01:21:02,187 --> 01:21:05,707
Speaker 5: Mate, anytime, we'll talk RUEB three sixty. I'm keen to

1511
01:21:05,787 --> 01:21:07,987
Speaker 5: represent the man. I think they're going to save on

1512
01:21:08,227 --> 01:21:11,427
Speaker 5: sand as well for the fields's work. Let's the one saving.

1513
01:21:13,187 --> 01:21:15,107
Speaker 2: James McConney a big part of our Sundays around this

1514
01:21:15,227 --> 01:21:19,147
Speaker 2: time every weekend on Weekend Sport follow him via his

1515
01:21:19,307 --> 01:21:22,147
Speaker 2: socials and also was part of the alternative commentary collective.

1516
01:21:22,147 --> 01:21:24,347
Speaker 2: And the crowd goes, well, seven to two, they're underway

1517
01:21:24,347 --> 01:21:25,467
Speaker 2: at Bathhurst. We're back after this.

1518
01:21:27,467 --> 01:21:29,827
Speaker 1: Goop from the track, fields and and the court on

1519
01:21:29,987 --> 01:21:34,347
Speaker 1: your home of sort Weekend Sport with Jason vine Us talks.

1520
01:21:34,147 --> 01:21:36,627
Speaker 2: In me from Mark on text? What the heck party

1521
01:21:36,707 --> 01:21:40,667
Speaker 2: talking halfbacks? And you don't mention for our Fuckatava. I

1522
01:21:41,547 --> 01:21:43,107
Speaker 2: don't know this to be true, and I thought for

1523
01:21:43,307 --> 01:21:46,107
Speaker 2: Fukatava was terrific for hawks Bay last night by the way,

1524
01:21:46,467 --> 01:21:48,107
Speaker 2: apart from being sent to the bin for a bit.

1525
01:21:48,747 --> 01:21:52,307
Speaker 2: But I think he might be doing the three years

1526
01:21:52,307 --> 01:21:55,547
Speaker 2: stand down to play for Tonga. He in fact has

1527
01:21:55,947 --> 01:21:57,947
Speaker 2: seen out that three years there's only two Test matches

1528
01:21:57,987 --> 01:22:02,227
Speaker 2: were against Ireland in twenty twenty two. I don't know.

1529
01:22:02,347 --> 01:22:04,067
Speaker 2: I don't know this to be true, but if he

1530
01:22:04,147 --> 01:22:06,587
Speaker 2: wanted to, he could play for Tonga for our fucker

1531
01:22:06,627 --> 01:22:08,147
Speaker 2: Tavan now and it does seem to be a very

1532
01:22:08,227 --> 01:22:11,907
Speaker 2: long list of halfbacks just on them. I just I

1533
01:22:11,987 --> 01:22:14,707
Speaker 2: feel like they they shouldn't take from Lake Christie on

1534
01:22:14,747 --> 01:22:18,427
Speaker 2: this tour. Nothing against Finlay Christie, but let's look ahead,

1535
01:22:18,507 --> 01:22:21,467
Speaker 2: right Roy garth Lafttermar, I think they should take Cayle

1536
01:22:21,507 --> 01:22:24,667
Speaker 2: Preston as their third guy. Or Dylan Pledger. Well, I

1537
01:22:24,827 --> 01:22:28,027
Speaker 2: just remember he's never played Super Rugby. News next to

1538
01:22:28,067 --> 01:22:29,427
Speaker 2: two and then we're back with the last hour.

1539
01:22:30,867 --> 01:22:33,707
Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

1540
01:22:33,867 --> 01:22:37,707
Speaker 1: on and afterfield. It's all on Winter and Ford with

1541
01:22:37,947 --> 01:22:42,387
Speaker 1: Jason Paine on your home of Sport, New York.

1542
01:22:43,907 --> 01:22:44,147
Speaker 4: Hello.

1543
01:22:44,227 --> 01:22:46,787
Speaker 2: Then this is Weekend Sport on News TALKSB until three

1544
01:22:47,027 --> 01:22:51,187
Speaker 2: Jason Pine with Any McDonald alongside Luca Harrington. What a

1545
01:22:51,347 --> 01:22:56,667
Speaker 2: year he has had, our top snow sporter has announced

1546
01:22:56,707 --> 01:23:01,107
Speaker 2: on Friday night at the twenty twenty five Snow Sports

1547
01:23:01,187 --> 01:23:06,227
Speaker 2: New Zealand Awards, Luca Harrington's on the show this hour.

1548
01:23:07,347 --> 01:23:10,107
Speaker 2: I've forgotten actually before I was getting ready to interview him,

1549
01:23:10,507 --> 01:23:14,067
Speaker 2: just how exceptional his year had been and the number

1550
01:23:14,107 --> 01:23:18,947
Speaker 2: of accolades he had earned and most recently, of course,

1551
01:23:19,067 --> 01:23:22,787
Speaker 2: in the first cohort of New Zealander's name to go

1552
01:23:22,907 --> 01:23:26,147
Speaker 2: to the Winter Olympics in February of next year in Italy.

1553
01:23:26,307 --> 01:23:28,707
Speaker 2: So look at Harrington and South and sermon out of

1554
01:23:29,147 --> 01:23:32,867
Speaker 2: Norway shortly or Whites defender. They lost narrowly to Poland

1555
01:23:32,947 --> 01:23:35,747
Speaker 2: on Friday morning. New Zealand time did the All Whites

1556
01:23:35,787 --> 01:23:39,747
Speaker 2: they take on Norway this coming Wednesday morning, Finn sermon

1557
01:23:39,787 --> 01:23:41,467
Speaker 2: out of the All Whites. Will keep you up to

1558
01:23:41,547 --> 01:23:45,067
Speaker 2: date with Bathurst. Eric Thompson is there for us and

1559
01:23:45,187 --> 01:23:48,707
Speaker 2: we'll get across to Mount Panorama and keep eyes on

1560
01:23:48,747 --> 01:23:52,027
Speaker 2: that for you, as well as the Bunnings MPC quarterfinal

1561
01:23:52,067 --> 01:23:55,867
Speaker 2: as well between Canterbury and Counties Manico which is just

1562
01:23:56,147 --> 01:23:59,907
Speaker 2: underway at Apollo Project Stadium in christ Church. Your calls

1563
01:23:59,947 --> 01:24:03,907
Speaker 2: and correspondents are always welcome. Text messages to nine two

1564
01:24:04,027 --> 01:24:06,507
Speaker 2: ninety two emails to Jason at News Talks. He had

1565
01:24:06,507 --> 01:24:09,387
Speaker 2: beat dot codt NZ or phone OH eight hundred eighty

1566
01:24:09,467 --> 01:24:12,027
Speaker 2: ten to eighty to get through. If something catches your

1567
01:24:12,067 --> 01:24:14,547
Speaker 2: ear that you would like to pass comment on. But

1568
01:24:14,667 --> 01:24:17,147
Speaker 2: as we approach eight past two, as we always do

1569
01:24:17,307 --> 01:24:21,027
Speaker 2: at around this time on weekend sport, let's get you

1570
01:24:21,147 --> 01:24:22,707
Speaker 2: up to date with some of the stuff you modermisted

1571
01:24:23,427 --> 01:24:27,147
Speaker 2: in case you missed it. It should come as no surprise,

1572
01:24:27,867 --> 01:24:32,267
Speaker 2: but Earling Harland continue scoring goals, this time for Norway

1573
01:24:32,987 --> 01:24:37,427
Speaker 2: in their European World Cup qualifiers. And you holand his

1574
01:24:37,507 --> 01:24:41,907
Speaker 2: black posts, and Harland has his hat trick, hat.

1575
01:24:41,747 --> 01:24:47,267
Speaker 10: Trick number six fris Country, gol number fifty one frisk

1576
01:24:47,307 --> 01:24:50,147
Speaker 10: Country and it's this twelfth strike.

1577
01:24:50,427 --> 01:24:53,907
Speaker 2: In this qualifying cup. Late Earling Harland's hat trick leading

1578
01:24:54,187 --> 01:24:57,627
Speaker 2: Norway to a five nil win over Israel this morning

1579
01:24:58,107 --> 01:25:00,227
Speaker 2: to the Women's Cricket World Cup, and nets of a

1580
01:25:00,307 --> 01:25:03,747
Speaker 2: Branch has put together a classy knock to keep England

1581
01:25:03,907 --> 01:25:05,267
Speaker 2: undefeated at the tournament.

1582
01:25:07,307 --> 01:25:07,627
Speaker 4: Shot.

1583
01:25:08,347 --> 01:25:09,667
Speaker 2: Oh, that's magnificent.

1584
01:25:10,627 --> 01:25:14,067
Speaker 3: What a shot, dad is What a way to bring

1585
01:25:14,267 --> 01:25:18,507
Speaker 3: up one hundred, a record one hundred as well for

1586
01:25:18,707 --> 01:25:23,627
Speaker 3: Natsiver Brunt when she walked out here, well there was

1587
01:25:23,787 --> 01:25:24,947
Speaker 3: tough guying for England.

1588
01:25:24,987 --> 01:25:30,227
Speaker 2: That she's played it beautifully. Nets of Brunt century spurring

1589
01:25:30,267 --> 01:25:33,587
Speaker 2: England to an eighty nine run win over Sri Lanka.

1590
01:25:33,947 --> 01:25:36,667
Speaker 2: So the NPC quarter finals, two of them. Yesterday, Bay

1591
01:25:36,747 --> 01:25:38,787
Speaker 2: of Plenty ruthless against Tasman.

1592
01:25:38,947 --> 01:25:41,307
Speaker 11: Oh, look at the scrum they pushed them right off.

1593
01:25:41,427 --> 01:25:44,147
Speaker 11: It has the corea brought what it's a penalty try.

1594
01:25:44,547 --> 01:25:46,667
Speaker 11: I think the Coorra broad and got over the line

1595
01:25:46,707 --> 01:25:49,067
Speaker 11: and he might have knocked it on, but a penalty

1596
01:25:49,187 --> 01:25:50,587
Speaker 11: try has been given.

1597
01:25:50,627 --> 01:25:51,187
Speaker 13: All the same.

1598
01:25:51,827 --> 01:25:55,627
Speaker 11: Oh my word, Bay of plenty scrum. They have totally

1599
01:25:56,107 --> 01:25:58,467
Speaker 11: annihilated the tasmand.

1600
01:25:58,067 --> 01:26:01,707
Speaker 2: Muckel twenty seven to seven. As the Steamers marched through

1601
01:26:01,747 --> 01:26:04,707
Speaker 2: to the Semis, also marching on Hawks Bay bes ten

1602
01:26:04,747 --> 01:26:09,507
Speaker 2: wamlan epifig Cot passed in the Katie Daho and you'll

1603
01:26:09,547 --> 01:26:13,747
Speaker 2: go through its class. The hudsd's the trial point that

1604
01:26:13,987 --> 01:26:16,427
Speaker 2: was well put together. So the Magpies through with a

1605
01:26:16,547 --> 01:26:20,027
Speaker 2: twenty six twelve win over Taranaki and after the US

1606
01:26:20,107 --> 01:26:24,747
Speaker 2: to finish an historic win for the Seattle Mariners as

1607
01:26:24,827 --> 01:26:29,187
Speaker 2: they advanced to Major League Baseball's American League Championship Series.

1608
01:26:29,787 --> 01:26:35,587
Speaker 12: Polancoll with one swing could end the series. Hotter pods,

1609
01:26:39,787 --> 01:26:40,947
Speaker 12: two pounds series.

1610
01:26:47,187 --> 01:26:49,427
Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

1611
01:26:49,587 --> 01:26:54,307
Speaker 1: on eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Pine News.

1612
01:26:54,187 --> 01:26:57,427
Speaker 2: Talk ZB coming up eleven minutes past two. The All

1613
01:26:57,467 --> 01:27:00,427
Speaker 2: Whites have lost narrowly to Poland in the first of

1614
01:27:00,547 --> 01:27:04,467
Speaker 2: two friendlies in the latest FIFA window in Europe, and

1615
01:27:04,627 --> 01:27:09,707
Speaker 2: there is before time. We saw Darren bezes Man go

1616
01:27:09,907 --> 01:27:13,307
Speaker 2: down by one goals. And now that was on Friday morning,

1617
01:27:13,467 --> 01:27:17,707
Speaker 2: a one nil loss to thirty sixth ranked Poland. Ther

1618
01:27:17,747 --> 01:27:20,667
Speaker 2: Whites incidentally are currently one hundred and third in the

1619
01:27:20,747 --> 01:27:24,187
Speaker 2: world for what that's worth, So a narrow loss to

1620
01:27:24,307 --> 01:27:27,187
Speaker 2: a much more highly ranked opponent. The Your Whites have

1621
01:27:27,307 --> 01:27:30,627
Speaker 2: now relocated to Oslo, where they will meet world number

1622
01:27:30,707 --> 01:27:35,107
Speaker 2: thirty one Norway on Wednesday morning. All Whites defender Finn

1623
01:27:35,347 --> 01:27:38,827
Speaker 2: sermon is whether thanks for joining us, Finn, appreciate your time.

1624
01:27:38,867 --> 01:27:41,707
Speaker 2: One of the main things the review of that narrow

1625
01:27:41,787 --> 01:27:44,267
Speaker 2: one nil loss to Poland has thrown.

1626
01:27:44,067 --> 01:27:48,827
Speaker 10: Up thanks for having me on boney the review we

1627
01:27:48,947 --> 01:27:52,187
Speaker 10: looked at a few different things. One of them was

1628
01:27:52,707 --> 01:27:55,707
Speaker 10: that we kind of we're continuing to get the wall

1629
01:27:55,787 --> 01:27:58,787
Speaker 10: forward and progress the ball. We just needs to be

1630
01:27:59,747 --> 01:28:03,987
Speaker 10: better in the final third creator create some better or

1631
01:28:04,067 --> 01:28:07,507
Speaker 10: clearer chances and honestly, just yeah, I should try to

1632
01:28:07,507 --> 01:28:10,427
Speaker 10: shoot more, and yeah, create more opportunities for us to

1633
01:28:10,427 --> 01:28:11,667
Speaker 10: actually put the ball on the back of the neck,

1634
01:28:11,747 --> 01:28:14,947
Speaker 10: because that's almost the one thing that's kind of missing

1635
01:28:15,027 --> 01:28:16,107
Speaker 10: right now is that.

1636
01:28:16,667 --> 01:28:19,107
Speaker 2: I mean, I know your brief as a defender, really,

1637
01:28:19,187 --> 01:28:20,787
Speaker 2: so I guess you'll leave that to the guys further

1638
01:28:20,867 --> 01:28:23,827
Speaker 2: up the pitch, but for those players, the players in

1639
01:28:24,507 --> 01:28:27,747
Speaker 2: the opposing penalty area, is that something that is I

1640
01:28:27,787 --> 01:28:29,987
Speaker 2: don't know, challenging to work on. How do you work

1641
01:28:30,027 --> 01:28:32,147
Speaker 2: on being more clinical in front of goal?

1642
01:28:33,707 --> 01:28:33,907
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1643
01:28:33,947 --> 01:28:37,427
Speaker 10: I think it's partly. It's both a team thing and

1644
01:28:37,627 --> 01:28:39,547
Speaker 10: a kind of individual thing. I think it's up to

1645
01:28:39,587 --> 01:28:41,947
Speaker 10: the team to, you know, kind of agrest the ball

1646
01:28:42,027 --> 01:28:45,427
Speaker 10: and it's up to especially defenders to help us agress

1647
01:28:45,467 --> 01:28:48,587
Speaker 10: the ball forwards up the pitch, and then I guess

1648
01:28:48,787 --> 01:28:50,707
Speaker 10: when it comes into the attackers sort of stuff, that's

1649
01:28:50,747 --> 01:28:54,027
Speaker 10: where those players with the talent and creativity they kind

1650
01:28:54,067 --> 01:28:56,667
Speaker 10: of they kind of take over and that's kind of

1651
01:28:56,747 --> 01:28:59,307
Speaker 10: that's where they shine. And this is the thing is

1652
01:28:59,427 --> 01:29:02,267
Speaker 10: these guys, all or all our players in that attacking

1653
01:29:02,347 --> 01:29:05,587
Speaker 10: third have got quality and creativity and have goals.

1654
01:29:05,347 --> 01:29:06,987
Speaker 6: In them, and so it's just about.

1655
01:29:08,307 --> 01:29:10,227
Speaker 10: Us working and working as a team to to put

1656
01:29:10,267 --> 01:29:12,747
Speaker 10: players in the best vision to score and then getting

1657
01:29:12,787 --> 01:29:13,267
Speaker 10: the ball there.

1658
01:29:13,667 --> 01:29:15,667
Speaker 2: Do you feel as though you know once that sort

1659
01:29:15,707 --> 01:29:18,027
Speaker 2: of thing clicks at the attacking end, that you'll be

1660
01:29:18,027 --> 01:29:21,267
Speaker 2: able to turn these these close losses into into draws

1661
01:29:21,387 --> 01:29:23,827
Speaker 2: or even wins, which of course you'll need if you're

1662
01:29:23,827 --> 01:29:25,227
Speaker 2: going to get out of the group at the World

1663
01:29:25,227 --> 01:29:25,867
Speaker 2: Cup next year.

1664
01:29:27,267 --> 01:29:31,667
Speaker 10: Yeah, I definitely think so, because we've shown that we can,

1665
01:29:32,227 --> 01:29:35,467
Speaker 10: you know, like someone can control games with both with

1666
01:29:35,547 --> 01:29:38,867
Speaker 10: the ball and without the ball, and where we're not.

1667
01:29:38,947 --> 01:29:43,227
Speaker 6: It's like where we lost five nels against Poland.

1668
01:29:43,227 --> 01:29:46,667
Speaker 10: You know, so one nil, we score a goal earlier

1669
01:29:46,707 --> 01:29:49,987
Speaker 10: in that game or before they score, and the results

1670
01:29:50,227 --> 01:29:52,667
Speaker 10: could be completely different. So yeah, I have full I

1671
01:29:52,667 --> 01:29:56,827
Speaker 10: have full confidence that when we do start turning these

1672
01:29:57,547 --> 01:30:01,667
Speaker 10: these kind of games and moments into into some more goals,

1673
01:30:01,707 --> 01:30:03,787
Speaker 10: it will only help our results positively.

1674
01:30:04,267 --> 01:30:05,987
Speaker 2: Apart from the goal, you can say that, how did

1675
01:30:06,027 --> 01:30:08,147
Speaker 2: you write the defensive performance against Poland?

1676
01:30:09,627 --> 01:30:11,467
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I thought I thought we were decent.

1677
01:30:11,507 --> 01:30:13,307
Speaker 6: I think that it's always difficult.

1678
01:30:13,867 --> 01:30:16,307
Speaker 10: I mean, any national team game is difficult because you're

1679
01:30:16,347 --> 01:30:17,867
Speaker 10: kind of not used to playing with each other and

1680
01:30:18,307 --> 01:30:21,027
Speaker 10: only get limited time on the training on the training

1681
01:30:21,267 --> 01:30:25,707
Speaker 10: training ground. But I honestly think that we as as

1682
01:30:25,747 --> 01:30:27,267
Speaker 10: a back four, as a defense, as a team, we

1683
01:30:27,427 --> 01:30:30,187
Speaker 10: we do understand each other quite well. And you know,

1684
01:30:30,267 --> 01:30:32,907
Speaker 10: we defended. I thought we defended decent. We limited them

1685
01:30:32,987 --> 01:30:36,867
Speaker 10: to kind of mainly mainly shots outside the box and

1686
01:30:37,187 --> 01:30:42,507
Speaker 10: and and low kind of opportunity chances. The goal they took,

1687
01:30:42,627 --> 01:30:45,107
Speaker 10: they took the cole extremely well. You know, bar down

1688
01:30:45,507 --> 01:30:47,907
Speaker 10: is not a bad finish, So that was a little

1689
01:30:47,947 --> 01:30:50,867
Speaker 10: bit disappointing, But honestly, I don't think it was a

1690
01:30:50,987 --> 01:30:52,307
Speaker 10: bad performance defensively.

1691
01:30:53,227 --> 01:30:55,507
Speaker 2: You talked about the combinations that you're forging there and

1692
01:30:55,827 --> 01:30:59,147
Speaker 2: and you're limited time together. You've partnered both Michael Boxel

1693
01:30:59,587 --> 01:31:02,787
Speaker 2: and Tyler Binden in recent matches for New Zealand. How

1694
01:31:02,907 --> 01:31:05,867
Speaker 2: different are they as central defensive partners.

1695
01:31:08,587 --> 01:31:09,627
Speaker 6: They're a little bit different.

1696
01:31:10,387 --> 01:31:15,067
Speaker 10: It's kind of hard to hard to explain it. Tyler

1697
01:31:15,187 --> 01:31:17,387
Speaker 10: is probably a little bit more use to playing on

1698
01:31:17,427 --> 01:31:19,987
Speaker 10: the left than box he is, but but he does.

1699
01:31:20,227 --> 01:31:22,707
Speaker 10: Boxy does a great job when he does play there. Anyway,

1700
01:31:22,827 --> 01:31:25,427
Speaker 10: I think box He's probably got a little bit more

1701
01:31:26,267 --> 01:31:30,227
Speaker 10: I don't know, he say, like speed and physicality than Tyler.

1702
01:31:30,347 --> 01:31:33,867
Speaker 10: So there's that kind of aspect to it. But I mean,

1703
01:31:33,907 --> 01:31:39,147
Speaker 10: they're both fantastic players, and I enjoy playing with both

1704
01:31:39,187 --> 01:31:43,467
Speaker 10: of them. And I know that bays Or he always

1705
01:31:43,507 --> 01:31:46,627
Speaker 10: tells us that it's a difficult decision of who kind

1706
01:31:46,667 --> 01:31:49,467
Speaker 10: of who plays out of the three or four or

1707
01:31:49,507 --> 01:31:50,987
Speaker 10: five of us center backs, So.

1708
01:31:52,667 --> 01:31:55,467
Speaker 6: Yes, it's kind of it's up to him, not up.

1709
01:31:55,427 --> 01:31:58,107
Speaker 2: To me indeed, And no Nando Pineker on this two

1710
01:31:58,147 --> 01:32:00,427
Speaker 2: of courses he recovers from a from a knock, but

1711
01:32:01,107 --> 01:32:03,027
Speaker 2: there is a new face in the squad. Another scene

1712
01:32:03,027 --> 01:32:06,107
Speaker 2: about George Stranger who's playing his football in Scotland on

1713
01:32:06,227 --> 01:32:08,787
Speaker 2: the sure, you've ever played alongside George, so how do

1714
01:32:08,827 --> 01:32:11,987
Speaker 2: you integrate him into your defensive system? So if he's needed,

1715
01:32:12,547 --> 01:32:13,267
Speaker 2: he's ready to go.

1716
01:32:14,747 --> 01:32:14,947
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1717
01:32:15,227 --> 01:32:17,467
Speaker 10: I've not played with George before and I've not been

1718
01:32:17,547 --> 01:32:19,587
Speaker 10: him before, so it was called meeting him and he's

1719
01:32:19,587 --> 01:32:22,867
Speaker 10: a real nice guy. So I've enjoyed training with him

1720
01:32:22,867 --> 01:32:26,067
Speaker 10: and hanging out with him. Yeah, I think it's just

1721
01:32:26,827 --> 01:32:28,307
Speaker 10: we do have a limited time on the pitch, but

1722
01:32:28,467 --> 01:32:30,627
Speaker 10: when we do get on the pictures is talking to

1723
01:32:30,707 --> 01:32:34,987
Speaker 10: him and kind of explaining I guess how I play

1724
01:32:35,147 --> 01:32:37,347
Speaker 10: and how we kind of try to defend as the team,

1725
01:32:37,707 --> 01:32:41,947
Speaker 10: and just just talking communicating with him kind of of

1726
01:32:42,307 --> 01:32:44,027
Speaker 10: what we've been doing and what we've been doing as

1727
01:32:44,067 --> 01:32:48,667
Speaker 10: a group for the last two three years, and then

1728
01:32:49,307 --> 01:32:52,067
Speaker 10: also understanding what he likes and how he defends. So

1729
01:32:52,987 --> 01:32:55,827
Speaker 10: it's always good to get a perspective and just try

1730
01:32:55,867 --> 01:32:57,267
Speaker 10: to all get on the same page about what we're

1731
01:32:57,267 --> 01:32:57,667
Speaker 10: trying to do.

1732
01:32:58,267 --> 01:33:01,187
Speaker 2: So look forward to Norway. Now on Wednesday, you have

1733
01:33:01,307 --> 01:33:03,667
Speaker 2: the task of trying to contain one of the world's

1734
01:33:03,707 --> 01:33:07,547
Speaker 2: best strikers in Earling Harland. How much do you relish

1735
01:33:07,827 --> 01:33:08,707
Speaker 2: a challenge like that?

1736
01:33:10,707 --> 01:33:14,787
Speaker 6: I think I think all of us relish that challenge.

1737
01:33:14,787 --> 01:33:15,187
Speaker 6: I think.

1738
01:33:16,787 --> 01:33:20,027
Speaker 10: From a personal point of view, it's it's only it's

1739
01:33:20,107 --> 01:33:21,067
Speaker 10: only really an opportunity.

1740
01:33:21,147 --> 01:33:22,907
Speaker 6: Like I say, a challenge is a good thing.

1741
01:33:24,147 --> 01:33:27,187
Speaker 10: It's one of the best strikers in the world, and

1742
01:33:27,307 --> 01:33:30,147
Speaker 10: so that's that's gonna be a challenge for any defender.

1743
01:33:30,187 --> 01:33:31,427
Speaker 10: You know, you can see you see what he does

1744
01:33:31,507 --> 01:33:35,467
Speaker 10: to Premier League and Champions League defenders. So that's kind

1745
01:33:35,507 --> 01:33:38,307
Speaker 10: of not not that there's no pressure on it, but

1746
01:33:38,787 --> 01:33:41,387
Speaker 10: it's it's kind of a yeah, like I said, just

1747
01:33:41,427 --> 01:33:44,747
Speaker 10: an opportunity to go up against a fantastic player and

1748
01:33:45,387 --> 01:33:45,987
Speaker 10: and someone that.

1749
01:33:47,067 --> 01:33:49,467
Speaker 6: You probably don't go up against every every single week.

1750
01:33:50,467 --> 01:33:53,227
Speaker 2: And in that regard, was it a little bit disappointing.

1751
01:33:53,267 --> 01:33:56,187
Speaker 2: You can get the chance to test yourself against Polish

1752
01:33:56,227 --> 01:34:00,307
Speaker 2: superstar Robert Lewandowski on on Friday. He just he was

1753
01:34:00,347 --> 01:34:02,307
Speaker 2: an unused substitute for Poland.

1754
01:34:03,747 --> 01:34:06,827
Speaker 10: Yeah, it would have been cool to play them, whether

1755
01:34:06,907 --> 01:34:09,507
Speaker 10: he's he played a full ninety or or just came

1756
01:34:09,547 --> 01:34:10,027
Speaker 10: off the bench.

1757
01:34:10,107 --> 01:34:12,147
Speaker 6: So that was, I guess a little bit disappointing.

1758
01:34:12,227 --> 01:34:15,667
Speaker 10: But you can only play who's who's in front of you, right,

1759
01:34:15,747 --> 01:34:18,707
Speaker 10: So whoever they put out is always as a good challenge.

1760
01:34:19,347 --> 01:34:22,187
Speaker 2: The team obviously has has eyes on the World Cup

1761
01:34:22,347 --> 01:34:24,867
Speaker 2: next year. Every time you get together, I presume there's

1762
01:34:25,107 --> 01:34:26,827
Speaker 2: a bit of edge there, you know. Do you do

1763
01:34:26,947 --> 01:34:29,867
Speaker 2: you talk much about the World Cup next year when

1764
01:34:29,907 --> 01:34:30,867
Speaker 2: you're together in camp?

1765
01:34:33,467 --> 01:34:35,307
Speaker 6: Yeah, we were talking about it as a team.

1766
01:34:35,347 --> 01:34:37,707
Speaker 10: I think it's it's it's always in the kind of

1767
01:34:38,867 --> 01:34:40,147
Speaker 10: I don't know, has that in the back of our

1768
01:34:40,227 --> 01:34:42,547
Speaker 10: minds because that is what we're kind of what we're building,

1769
01:34:43,027 --> 01:34:46,507
Speaker 10: what we're building towards and and where we're where we're headed.

1770
01:34:47,027 --> 01:34:49,027
Speaker 10: So kind of all of this, all of these tours,

1771
01:34:49,387 --> 01:34:52,307
Speaker 10: all of these international windows are a lead up to

1772
01:34:53,227 --> 01:34:56,227
Speaker 10: that World Cup. So yeah, we talk about it, and

1773
01:34:56,307 --> 01:34:59,467
Speaker 10: then amongst the amongst the boys, there's starting to be

1774
01:34:59,547 --> 01:35:01,747
Speaker 10: a little bit more and more more chat about it

1775
01:35:01,827 --> 01:35:05,067
Speaker 10: and kind of excited to see the draw and see

1776
01:35:05,107 --> 01:35:07,627
Speaker 10: where we might be playing and that sort of stuff.

1777
01:35:07,667 --> 01:35:10,587
Speaker 2: Indeed, and at club level, fin You've played ninety minutes

1778
01:35:10,627 --> 01:35:13,267
Speaker 2: and pretty much every game this season for Portland Timbers.

1779
01:35:13,267 --> 01:35:16,347
Speaker 2: You've been a well, I rusted on starter pretty much

1780
01:35:16,507 --> 01:35:19,147
Speaker 2: for the team. How do you evaluate your growth as

1781
01:35:19,187 --> 01:35:21,587
Speaker 2: a player since your move to the US and in

1782
01:35:21,667 --> 01:35:23,187
Speaker 2: particular in twenty twenty five.

1783
01:35:25,267 --> 01:35:27,507
Speaker 10: I mean, I've absolutely loved it this year, to be honest,

1784
01:35:28,947 --> 01:35:33,707
Speaker 10: I've felt like I do feel like I've grown week

1785
01:35:33,787 --> 01:35:36,787
Speaker 10: to week, month to month at the club that I'm at.

1786
01:35:36,867 --> 01:35:39,387
Speaker 10: You know, I love playing for Portland and I've got

1787
01:35:39,507 --> 01:35:43,107
Speaker 10: fantastic staff there who look after me well and also

1788
01:35:44,507 --> 01:35:48,707
Speaker 10: continue to push me every single week to continue to improve.

1789
01:35:50,067 --> 01:35:52,307
Speaker 10: I think in twenty twenty five, like you say, I've

1790
01:35:52,387 --> 01:35:56,707
Speaker 10: played a lot and that's that's been great for my development.

1791
01:35:56,867 --> 01:35:59,307
Speaker 10: And you know, throughout the year I started to get

1792
01:35:59,347 --> 01:36:02,547
Speaker 10: more and more kind of responsibility. And I don't know

1793
01:36:02,587 --> 01:36:06,027
Speaker 10: if onus is the right word, but like there's more

1794
01:36:06,067 --> 01:36:10,387
Speaker 10: press from my performances and more just yet more responsibility,

1795
01:36:11,507 --> 01:36:13,947
Speaker 10: which has been awesome for me. You know, I love

1796
01:36:14,027 --> 01:36:16,147
Speaker 10: that and I want to take that on. So you know,

1797
01:36:16,907 --> 01:36:19,067
Speaker 10: it's been great. It's been a good year so far.

1798
01:36:19,107 --> 01:36:23,027
Speaker 10: From Portland We're heading into the playoffs, so the next

1799
01:36:23,267 --> 01:36:25,307
Speaker 10: the next few games are going to be big for us.

1800
01:36:25,587 --> 01:36:27,627
Speaker 2: Good stuff and the new A League season about to

1801
01:36:27,667 --> 01:36:29,947
Speaker 2: start back here. I know you've got other other things

1802
01:36:30,027 --> 01:36:33,307
Speaker 2: on your mind with the MLS playoffs and such like,

1803
01:36:33,387 --> 01:36:35,587
Speaker 2: but will you still keep an eye on what happens

1804
01:36:35,627 --> 01:36:36,507
Speaker 2: at Wellington Phoenix.

1805
01:36:37,627 --> 01:36:39,667
Speaker 6: Yeah? I think I always will. I think I always will.

1806
01:36:40,107 --> 01:36:44,387
Speaker 10: I'm excited to watch the first game against Perth because

1807
01:36:44,587 --> 01:36:48,107
Speaker 10: obviously my got my Wellington Wellington mates and then also

1808
01:36:48,147 --> 01:36:50,187
Speaker 10: a few boys in the Perth team who I'm quite

1809
01:36:50,227 --> 01:36:55,347
Speaker 10: close with, like Sutzon Scottie. So yeah, I'm excited. I'm

1810
01:36:55,347 --> 01:36:57,227
Speaker 10: excited to watch that and see how the next over

1811
01:36:57,227 --> 01:36:57,587
Speaker 10: the season.

1812
01:36:58,427 --> 01:37:00,427
Speaker 2: Great to get the chance to chat, Thanks Indeed for

1813
01:37:00,547 --> 01:37:03,947
Speaker 2: your time. I look forward to seeing you take on Earling,

1814
01:37:04,027 --> 01:37:07,307
Speaker 2: Harland and Norway on win day morning, New Zealand Time.

1815
01:37:07,347 --> 01:37:08,227
Speaker 2: Really appreciate the chat.

1816
01:37:08,467 --> 01:37:09,667
Speaker 6: Thanks, Pony, appreciate it.

1817
01:37:09,747 --> 01:37:11,667
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate you joining us, Finn, Thanks indeed, Finn

1818
01:37:11,747 --> 01:37:13,507
Speaker 2: sermon there out of the All Whites camp. So five

1819
01:37:13,587 --> 01:37:16,347
Speaker 2: am Wednesday morning, New Zealand time is when they have

1820
01:37:16,467 --> 01:37:20,867
Speaker 2: their next match up against as I say, Norway and Erling, Harland.

1821
01:37:21,027 --> 01:37:25,347
Speaker 2: No score between Canterbury and Counties after nearly ten minutes

1822
01:37:25,587 --> 01:37:27,547
Speaker 2: in christ years. Just want to stay with football for

1823
01:37:27,627 --> 01:37:30,227
Speaker 2: a moment because, as I mentioned that a Finn sermon.

1824
01:37:30,267 --> 01:37:33,547
Speaker 2: The new A League men's football season underway next weekend.

1825
01:37:33,627 --> 01:37:37,827
Speaker 2: Auckland FC open with an away match against Melbourne Victory

1826
01:37:37,947 --> 01:37:40,387
Speaker 2: on Saturday night, and the Phoenix are also a way

1827
01:37:40,827 --> 01:37:44,107
Speaker 2: to start their season all the way away in Western Australia.

1828
01:37:44,547 --> 01:37:48,227
Speaker 2: They take on Perth Glory also next Saturday night. One

1829
01:37:48,267 --> 01:37:50,627
Speaker 2: of the new faces in the Wellington Phoenix this season

1830
01:37:50,947 --> 01:37:55,547
Speaker 2: is Australian Nikola Maleusnich. He's a striker who's previously played

1831
01:37:55,547 --> 01:37:58,107
Speaker 2: for Adelaide United, for Brisbane Raw and most recently for

1832
01:37:58,227 --> 01:38:01,707
Speaker 2: Perth Glory one hundred and sixty two combined matches across

1833
01:38:01,787 --> 01:38:04,107
Speaker 2: the last eight seasons, twenty six goals in that time.

1834
01:38:04,547 --> 01:38:07,307
Speaker 2: I caught up with Nikola Meliusnich during the week to

1835
01:38:07,347 --> 01:38:09,107
Speaker 2: see how he'd settled into Wellington.

1836
01:38:09,547 --> 01:38:11,307
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's been good so far. I mean, it took

1837
01:38:11,307 --> 01:38:12,547
Speaker 19: me a while to find a place to settle in,

1838
01:38:12,627 --> 01:38:15,947
Speaker 19: but finally got there and yeah, really enjoying enjoying the city.

1839
01:38:16,027 --> 01:38:16,147
Speaker 3: Now.

1840
01:38:16,707 --> 01:38:19,147
Speaker 19: My family came over recently so it's been really really

1841
01:38:19,147 --> 01:38:21,507
Speaker 19: good to have them here as well and experience the

1842
01:38:22,467 --> 01:38:23,027
Speaker 19: nice days.

1843
01:38:23,907 --> 01:38:26,347
Speaker 2: So yeah, they get nicer during the summer, don't worry.

1844
01:38:26,987 --> 01:38:29,747
Speaker 2: How did this will come about? You're at Perth. Tell

1845
01:38:29,827 --> 01:38:32,467
Speaker 2: us about the conversations that have led you to become

1846
01:38:32,467 --> 01:38:33,547
Speaker 2: a Wellington Phoenix player.

1847
01:38:33,667 --> 01:38:33,867
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1848
01:38:33,867 --> 01:38:35,707
Speaker 19: I mean I was at Perth and then my contract

1849
01:38:35,787 --> 01:38:38,787
Speaker 19: ended there, and then I was looking for something new

1850
01:38:38,867 --> 01:38:41,627
Speaker 19: and when Chief You called me, I was pretty keen

1851
01:38:41,707 --> 01:38:44,627
Speaker 19: to come over. She had to sort out the finer things,

1852
01:38:44,667 --> 01:38:48,387
Speaker 19: and then yeah, came over and yeah, just sort of

1853
01:38:48,387 --> 01:38:50,387
Speaker 19: fit in quite well. So yeah, that's how it sort

1854
01:38:50,427 --> 01:38:53,707
Speaker 19: of happened. Happened really quick. Actually, yeah, so good to hear.

1855
01:38:54,627 --> 01:38:56,947
Speaker 2: How do you reflect on your time at Perth pretty challenging.

1856
01:38:57,387 --> 01:38:59,187
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean it was a difficult season personally and

1857
01:39:01,627 --> 01:39:05,587
Speaker 19: yeah altogether as well. I had a few injuries sort

1858
01:39:05,627 --> 01:39:07,907
Speaker 19: of sent me back a lot of the season. So yeah,

1859
01:39:07,987 --> 01:39:12,027
Speaker 19: definitely definitely looking to improve on that and put that

1860
01:39:12,107 --> 01:39:15,307
Speaker 19: in the past. So but yeah, obviously I still feel

1861
01:39:15,307 --> 01:39:17,307
Speaker 19: like I've got a lot to give and I'm really

1862
01:39:17,347 --> 01:39:19,627
Speaker 19: looking forward to the season that's going to be coming,

1863
01:39:19,667 --> 01:39:23,547
Speaker 19: and I feel really positive on how things are going here, So.

1864
01:39:24,067 --> 01:39:26,027
Speaker 2: I guess on one of the upsides, would you got

1865
01:39:26,627 --> 01:39:29,107
Speaker 2: time with Oli Sale? That's never boring, is it.

1866
01:39:30,347 --> 01:39:31,707
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a good guy.

1867
01:39:33,067 --> 01:39:35,067
Speaker 19: He has a big, big personality in the addressing room,

1868
01:39:35,107 --> 01:39:37,467
Speaker 19: but he's always there for the boys and yeah, definitely

1869
01:39:37,507 --> 01:39:40,267
Speaker 19: good to have him around. So yeah, obviously awkward boys

1870
01:39:40,267 --> 01:39:40,987
Speaker 19: will be enjoying him.

1871
01:39:40,987 --> 01:39:41,147
Speaker 7: Now.

1872
01:39:41,227 --> 01:39:43,627
Speaker 2: So you've been around this league for a while, obviously,

1873
01:39:44,067 --> 01:39:48,067
Speaker 2: Perth Adelaide. What's it been like settling into a new

1874
01:39:48,427 --> 01:39:49,827
Speaker 2: team in a new country.

1875
01:39:50,667 --> 01:39:53,387
Speaker 19: I mean it's generally across the league, it's pretty similar,

1876
01:39:54,867 --> 01:39:57,147
Speaker 19: so you know, how's it done?

1877
01:39:57,147 --> 01:39:57,307
Speaker 5: Mark?

1878
01:39:57,307 --> 01:39:59,547
Speaker 19: For a bit it was a bit more difficult, but here,

1879
01:39:59,587 --> 01:40:02,187
Speaker 19: you know, everyone speaks English and you sort of know

1880
01:40:02,227 --> 01:40:05,067
Speaker 19: the players as well because you play against him, So yeah,

1881
01:40:05,067 --> 01:40:07,347
Speaker 19: it's been quite easy in that sort of in terms

1882
01:40:07,387 --> 01:40:09,787
Speaker 19: of that. But yeah, coming to the training facilities is

1883
01:40:09,827 --> 01:40:13,107
Speaker 19: really something remarkable, to be honest, compared to some of

1884
01:40:13,187 --> 01:40:16,467
Speaker 19: the ALA clubs. Yeah, it's really really good to have

1885
01:40:16,587 --> 01:40:18,867
Speaker 19: these facilities and to be part of it, and yeah,

1886
01:40:18,907 --> 01:40:20,427
Speaker 19: it makes it just a little bit easier coming in

1887
01:40:20,507 --> 01:40:20,867
Speaker 19: every day.

1888
01:40:20,947 --> 01:40:23,307
Speaker 2: So yeah, haven't been around the league for a while.

1889
01:40:23,347 --> 01:40:25,667
Speaker 2: What are the keys to success in the A League?

1890
01:40:26,227 --> 01:40:26,347
Speaker 7: Oh?

1891
01:40:26,507 --> 01:40:29,147
Speaker 19: I feel like the culture is probably the biggest one,

1892
01:40:29,227 --> 01:40:31,187
Speaker 19: and I think we touched on that early in the

1893
01:40:31,227 --> 01:40:33,507
Speaker 19: preseason and haven't really spoke about it so far, which

1894
01:40:33,587 --> 01:40:35,987
Speaker 19: means it's a good thing. It means we're heading in

1895
01:40:36,027 --> 01:40:37,947
Speaker 19: the right direction. And I feel like the boys have

1896
01:40:37,987 --> 01:40:40,427
Speaker 19: all bought in to a single goal and we're all

1897
01:40:40,507 --> 01:40:42,867
Speaker 19: working towards it. So I feel like if we can

1898
01:40:43,507 --> 01:40:46,307
Speaker 19: have that one goal and everyone working towards or putting

1899
01:40:46,347 --> 01:40:48,307
Speaker 19: everything towards that single thing, I know there's going to

1900
01:40:48,347 --> 01:40:51,107
Speaker 19: be hurdles and speed bumps, But as long as we

1901
01:40:51,187 --> 01:40:56,507
Speaker 19: have clear or clear instructions, clear processes, I feel like, yeah,

1902
01:40:56,547 --> 01:40:59,947
Speaker 19: that sort of builds something. Yeah, set us up for

1903
01:40:59,987 --> 01:41:00,667
Speaker 19: a really good season.

1904
01:41:00,907 --> 01:41:02,787
Speaker 2: It looks like, in broad terms, Chief his skin on

1905
01:41:02,867 --> 01:41:05,867
Speaker 2: a three four to three sort of formation. Where is

1906
01:41:05,907 --> 01:41:07,387
Speaker 2: your best place in that formation?

1907
01:41:08,347 --> 01:41:11,867
Speaker 19: Probably somewhere nowhere needed defense, not the next three, and

1908
01:41:12,547 --> 01:41:14,947
Speaker 19: just yeah, somewhere up upside where I can sort of

1909
01:41:15,587 --> 01:41:19,467
Speaker 19: try and help score goals and assist and you know,

1910
01:41:19,627 --> 01:41:23,667
Speaker 19: press and yeah, apply my skill sets that I feel

1911
01:41:23,707 --> 01:41:24,267
Speaker 19: like I'm good at.

1912
01:41:24,347 --> 01:41:26,027
Speaker 6: And yeah, definitely at the top somewhere.

1913
01:41:26,067 --> 01:41:28,267
Speaker 2: Yes, it's one of the front three, not one of

1914
01:41:28,267 --> 01:41:30,267
Speaker 2: the what I mean was mainly seeing you in wide

1915
01:41:30,267 --> 01:41:32,147
Speaker 2: areas having is that kind of way you feel most comfortable.

1916
01:41:32,587 --> 01:41:34,307
Speaker 19: Yeah, yes, And I mean I played a bit upfront

1917
01:41:34,387 --> 01:41:37,427
Speaker 19: as well and through the midfield, so I'm pretty used

1918
01:41:37,427 --> 01:41:40,027
Speaker 19: to most of those positions. But yeah, definitely in a

1919
01:41:40,027 --> 01:41:41,587
Speaker 19: four three three, I used to play on the wings.

1920
01:41:41,627 --> 01:41:45,187
Speaker 19: So yeah, but I mean in today's game, there's a

1921
01:41:45,187 --> 01:41:46,987
Speaker 19: lot of rotations, a lot of a lot of movements,

1922
01:41:46,987 --> 01:41:48,987
Speaker 19: so you end up playing pretty much every position.

1923
01:41:49,147 --> 01:41:53,107
Speaker 2: So and your speed gets talked about a lot. You're

1924
01:41:53,107 --> 01:41:55,467
Speaker 2: still as quick as you were. You work hard on that.

1925
01:41:56,387 --> 01:41:59,187
Speaker 19: I don't necessarily work hard, and I am still pretty quick,

1926
01:41:59,227 --> 01:42:03,347
Speaker 19: but yeah, definitely don't do specific things to work and

1927
01:42:03,387 --> 01:42:05,427
Speaker 19: it sort of just came naturally to me as I

1928
01:42:05,507 --> 01:42:08,187
Speaker 19: was growing up. And yeah, so definitely something that I

1929
01:42:09,467 --> 01:42:11,947
Speaker 19: that it gets talked about a lot, but yeah, you know,

1930
01:42:12,067 --> 01:42:13,707
Speaker 19: there's also other quick players in the league as well.

1931
01:42:13,787 --> 01:42:17,427
Speaker 2: So yeah, and it's the new season, what two weeks away.

1932
01:42:17,867 --> 01:42:19,747
Speaker 2: You've had a few seasons now, do you still get

1933
01:42:19,787 --> 01:42:22,147
Speaker 2: a sense of anticipation a bit of excitement a head

1934
01:42:22,147 --> 01:42:24,227
Speaker 2: of a new season, particularly at a new club.

1935
01:42:24,227 --> 01:42:26,227
Speaker 19: Of course, I mean whether it's a new club or club,

1936
01:42:26,307 --> 01:42:28,907
Speaker 19: everything everything's all that brighter at the start of the season.

1937
01:42:28,987 --> 01:42:31,707
Speaker 19: You know, you have your aspirations as a team and

1938
01:42:32,107 --> 01:42:35,587
Speaker 19: goals and you have hope. So I feel like you're

1939
01:42:35,707 --> 01:42:37,747
Speaker 19: If you're not excited, then there's a bit of a problem, mate.

1940
01:42:37,747 --> 01:42:41,867
Speaker 19: But yeah, definitely excited, nervous and really eager to see

1941
01:42:41,907 --> 01:42:44,387
Speaker 19: how we go. And it's just nice to put everything

1942
01:42:44,427 --> 01:42:46,707
Speaker 19: we put what sort of worked on throughout the d

1943
01:42:46,747 --> 01:42:50,067
Speaker 19: off season to practice and really test ourselves. So yeah,

1944
01:42:50,507 --> 01:42:51,307
Speaker 19: definitely excited.

1945
01:42:51,507 --> 01:42:52,947
Speaker 2: I know you're going to focus on the next game,

1946
01:42:52,987 --> 01:42:54,027
Speaker 2: but have you thought about the Derbies?

1947
01:42:54,667 --> 01:42:57,987
Speaker 19: Yeah, well of course I have. I heard it gets

1948
01:42:58,027 --> 01:42:59,507
Speaker 19: a little bit and I watched to be fair last year,

1949
01:42:59,547 --> 01:43:02,467
Speaker 19: gets a bit heated, and yeah, definitely excited to be

1950
01:43:02,547 --> 01:43:04,867
Speaker 19: part of it. I know the boys are as well,

1951
01:43:04,947 --> 01:43:08,507
Speaker 19: so yeah, definitely definitely excited to see what they bring

1952
01:43:08,747 --> 01:43:09,227
Speaker 19: this season.

1953
01:43:09,387 --> 01:43:13,947
Speaker 2: That is the voice of Nicola Meluisnich new Wellington Phoenix striker.

1954
01:43:14,147 --> 01:43:16,707
Speaker 2: A week from now will have their first game in

1955
01:43:16,747 --> 01:43:20,107
Speaker 2: the books. Next Saturday night, Phoenix played Perth Glory and

1956
01:43:20,267 --> 01:43:22,587
Speaker 2: as mentioned Auckland f C Up against Melbourne Victory, who,

1957
01:43:22,627 --> 01:43:25,067
Speaker 2: of course the last team they played last season. In

1958
01:43:25,147 --> 01:43:28,427
Speaker 2: that two legged semi final you might remember, which ended

1959
01:43:28,507 --> 01:43:32,547
Speaker 2: in defeat for Auckland FC. After the absolutely exceptional debut season,

1960
01:43:32,827 --> 01:43:35,547
Speaker 2: so Y Melbourne victory away in their first game. Both

1961
01:43:35,627 --> 01:43:38,667
Speaker 2: teams have their first home games of the season over

1962
01:43:38,987 --> 01:43:42,267
Speaker 2: Labor weekend to twenty seven. Let's take a break, come

1963
01:43:42,307 --> 01:43:45,107
Speaker 2: back and get you to Mount Panorama. Eric Thompson going

1964
01:43:45,187 --> 01:43:48,827
Speaker 2: to update this eighteen nineteen laps or so into the

1965
01:43:48,867 --> 01:43:52,067
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty one laps of the Bathurst one thousand.

1966
01:43:52,147 --> 01:43:53,547
Speaker 2: He is with us when we come back.

1967
01:43:54,467 --> 01:43:57,987
Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your home of Sport Weekend

1968
01:43:58,107 --> 01:44:02,147
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vyne GJ Gunner Homes New Zealand's most

1969
01:44:02,187 --> 01:44:04,347
Speaker 1: trusted home builder News talks'd.

1970
01:44:03,947 --> 01:44:08,107
Speaker 2: Be just gone two thirty. They've been underway for around

1971
01:44:08,147 --> 01:44:10,547
Speaker 2: forty five minutes. Were just under at Bathurs the Great

1972
01:44:10,627 --> 01:44:15,107
Speaker 2: Race nineteen into one hundred and sixty one laps. Eric

1973
01:44:15,187 --> 01:44:17,027
Speaker 2: Thompson from The New Zealand. Here he was watching on

1974
01:44:17,467 --> 01:44:20,067
Speaker 2: at Mount Panorama at what can you tell us about

1975
01:44:20,067 --> 01:44:22,147
Speaker 2: the opening stages of the race.

1976
01:44:24,907 --> 01:44:30,227
Speaker 15: As typical as the entire pack just launched themselves towards

1977
01:44:30,307 --> 01:44:34,467
Speaker 15: Hell Corner apstutely named. I'd have to say because many

1978
01:44:34,507 --> 01:44:37,627
Speaker 15: a race has ended before it started on that corner.

1979
01:44:37,707 --> 01:44:40,427
Speaker 15: But they all managed to get through. But the drag

1980
01:44:40,547 --> 01:44:43,307
Speaker 15: up the mountain was unbelievable, as two and three cars

1981
01:44:43,387 --> 01:44:48,467
Speaker 15: white for a while. But Todd, Halse Hazel were driving

1982
01:44:48,507 --> 01:44:52,867
Speaker 15: with Brady Costeki established like an early lead and comfortable,

1983
01:44:53,467 --> 01:44:56,947
Speaker 15: and the top five or six drivers sort of maybe

1984
01:44:56,987 --> 01:45:00,947
Speaker 15: swat one or two positions. Nothing there but Heiney from

1985
01:45:01,187 --> 01:45:04,707
Speaker 15: position about ten to twenty and a lot of and

1986
01:45:04,787 --> 01:45:06,787
Speaker 15: because most of the co drivers started on three main

1987
01:45:06,867 --> 01:45:10,787
Speaker 15: game drivers started, but in that pack was like Craiglun's tender.

1988
01:45:12,707 --> 01:45:15,107
Speaker 15: About half a dozen other former main game drivers mate

1989
01:45:15,147 --> 01:45:18,387
Speaker 15: and they, I swear to the good Lord, they must

1990
01:45:18,427 --> 01:45:19,907
Speaker 15: have thought it was going to be a five lap

1991
01:45:20,067 --> 01:45:24,627
Speaker 15: sprint race. The way they were banging door handles, I mean, seriously,

1992
01:45:25,347 --> 01:45:30,067
Speaker 15: Archie Barjie, pushing, shoving, banging wheels, three white up mountains

1993
01:45:30,067 --> 01:45:32,947
Speaker 15: straight in the grass and the dirt bits of car

1994
01:45:33,027 --> 01:45:35,707
Speaker 15: body work flying off everywhere in rule sitting. You're just going,

1995
01:45:35,867 --> 01:45:39,187
Speaker 15: good Lord, somebody better get on the radio and tell

1996
01:45:39,227 --> 01:45:42,227
Speaker 15: them it's one hundred and sixty one laps diys chill.

1997
01:45:42,707 --> 01:45:47,027
Speaker 15: They eventually did shell and settle down, but good lord,

1998
01:45:47,107 --> 01:45:49,627
Speaker 15: it was just like you just had the feeling it

1999
01:45:50,227 --> 01:45:52,267
Speaker 15: it was going to be a big one, but it

2000
01:45:52,387 --> 01:45:56,507
Speaker 15: hasn't been, and a couple of cars have come in

2001
01:45:56,627 --> 01:45:59,307
Speaker 15: for pit stops and put the main game drivers back in.

2002
01:46:00,067 --> 01:46:03,547
Speaker 15: But the weather's taking a quite a sudden turn, not

2003
01:46:03,667 --> 01:46:05,627
Speaker 15: for the worst yet, but that you can feel the

2004
01:46:05,627 --> 01:46:09,267
Speaker 15: air precious. It's got a little bit colder, and teams

2005
01:46:09,307 --> 01:46:11,387
Speaker 15: are all scrubbing up and down foot lane, are willing

2006
01:46:11,427 --> 01:46:15,587
Speaker 15: out wets or intermediates, so it could get interesting pretty soon.

2007
01:46:15,827 --> 01:46:19,267
Speaker 2: Py just on the tactics et of the co drivers

2008
01:46:19,307 --> 01:46:22,067
Speaker 2: for the most part starting is that common? Is that

2009
01:46:22,187 --> 01:46:25,307
Speaker 2: what normally happens. I guess a large time we thought

2010
01:46:25,347 --> 01:46:28,067
Speaker 2: that the that the main guys, particularly the ones who

2011
01:46:28,147 --> 01:46:31,387
Speaker 2: earned the places during the top ten shootout, might start first.

2012
01:46:33,027 --> 01:46:35,507
Speaker 15: Yeah, it used to be like that, but because the

2013
01:46:35,587 --> 01:46:39,347
Speaker 15: co drivers have to do a minimum of six and

2014
01:46:40,867 --> 01:46:45,027
Speaker 15: they're gonna have to like pet to fuel at least

2015
01:46:45,187 --> 01:46:49,707
Speaker 15: two or sometimes three times in that distance, so basically

2016
01:46:49,787 --> 01:46:52,747
Speaker 15: the co drivers have to do three spints. So most

2017
01:46:52,787 --> 01:46:54,947
Speaker 15: of the majority ninety percent of the teams want to

2018
01:46:54,987 --> 01:46:58,627
Speaker 15: get the co drivers mandatory laps out of the way

2019
01:46:58,707 --> 01:47:01,507
Speaker 15: to start with, so towards the end of the race.

2020
01:47:02,347 --> 01:47:04,507
Speaker 2: You don't have a co driver in the car, gotcha.

2021
01:47:04,587 --> 01:47:05,227
Speaker 16: You know, you got to have.

2022
01:47:05,267 --> 01:47:08,627
Speaker 15: All the main main guys going going for the win.

2023
01:47:08,827 --> 01:47:11,667
Speaker 15: So that's what most teams do. But at times here

2024
01:47:12,267 --> 01:47:14,627
Speaker 15: when all the co drivers have started and there are

2025
01:47:15,387 --> 01:47:19,427
Speaker 15: six rookies in the field and the supercar in the

2026
01:47:19,467 --> 01:47:23,147
Speaker 15: supercars field, who haven't you raced these cars before? Normally

2027
01:47:23,307 --> 01:47:26,427
Speaker 15: all the rookies are trying to like audition.

2028
01:47:26,267 --> 01:47:28,507
Speaker 5: For a main drive next year, which can normally lead

2029
01:47:28,507 --> 01:47:28,947
Speaker 5: to chaos.

2030
01:47:29,027 --> 01:47:32,147
Speaker 15: But I think there were some pretty stern words Pinting

2031
01:47:32,427 --> 01:47:34,227
Speaker 15: said in the garage before the race started.

2032
01:47:34,827 --> 01:47:36,107
Speaker 5: Bend it and you're in trouble.

2033
01:47:37,067 --> 01:47:41,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, just know your place, young Fella's probably a lot

2034
01:47:41,267 --> 01:47:44,027
Speaker 2: of way of putting it. But we know Fobean Coltart

2035
01:47:44,107 --> 01:47:46,307
Speaker 2: is co driving for chairs Moster, so is he He's

2036
01:47:46,347 --> 01:47:47,587
Speaker 2: been out there from the start, has he?

2037
01:47:48,707 --> 01:47:48,907
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2038
01:47:48,947 --> 01:47:50,907
Speaker 15: Yeah, he's doing a good job solid. I think he's

2039
01:47:50,907 --> 01:47:53,587
Speaker 15: in fifth or sixth moment, pretty much where they started.

2040
01:47:54,107 --> 01:47:58,587
Speaker 15: He's doing a really good job. Ryan Wood's co driver, Yeah,

2041
01:47:58,667 --> 01:48:02,827
Speaker 15: Jaden Odaja, he's doing a really solid job there. It's

2042
01:48:02,867 --> 01:48:05,467
Speaker 15: they're sitting fourth at the moment, I think. But the

2043
01:48:05,627 --> 01:48:09,107
Speaker 15: really interesting that there's a young guy call Cooper Murray's.

2044
01:48:10,107 --> 01:48:10,787
Speaker 5: He's flying.

2045
01:48:10,827 --> 01:48:14,067
Speaker 15: He's in second place. But hazard Wood looks really comfortable

2046
01:48:14,107 --> 01:48:18,227
Speaker 15: defending champion. He's got Mark winter Bottom driving with Chans

2047
01:48:18,307 --> 01:48:22,667
Speaker 15: Moster is sitting just comfortably. You know these guys, you know,

2048
01:48:23,307 --> 01:48:25,667
Speaker 15: the co drivers that have been main game drivers, know

2049
01:48:25,787 --> 01:48:29,387
Speaker 15: how it works. They understand the massinations of it all,

2050
01:48:30,027 --> 01:48:34,307
Speaker 15: and so they're just just sitting there waiting to things

2051
01:48:34,347 --> 01:48:38,987
Speaker 15: settle down. It's sort of the race plane has only

2052
01:48:39,107 --> 01:48:41,147
Speaker 15: many years I've watched, it sort of has a bit

2053
01:48:41,187 --> 01:48:42,027
Speaker 15: of a rhythm to it.

2054
01:48:42,547 --> 01:48:43,747
Speaker 2: It's like not far.

2055
01:48:43,827 --> 01:48:46,907
Speaker 15: Crazy in the first thirty minutes, then it sort of

2056
01:48:46,947 --> 01:48:49,227
Speaker 15: settles down in a build up to the first pit stop,

2057
01:48:49,867 --> 01:48:52,307
Speaker 15: and then you know, if the weather doesn't change or anything, right,

2058
01:48:52,707 --> 01:48:56,747
Speaker 15: it sort of just has this sort of plateau and

2059
01:48:56,867 --> 01:49:00,147
Speaker 15: then at about half ways distance it really just starts

2060
01:49:00,187 --> 01:49:05,027
Speaker 15: to amp up again. So which I pretty confident that's

2061
01:49:05,067 --> 01:49:06,147
Speaker 15: going to happen again this year.

2062
01:49:07,227 --> 01:49:09,107
Speaker 2: One thing I didn't get the chance to ask you

2063
01:49:09,187 --> 01:49:10,987
Speaker 2: last time we spoke on the year was about the

2064
01:49:11,107 --> 01:49:13,507
Speaker 2: wind at Bathost did mention that there might be some

2065
01:49:13,707 --> 01:49:17,987
Speaker 2: rain later? Does the wind become affector at Mount Panorama?

2066
01:49:19,347 --> 01:49:19,547
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2067
01:49:19,547 --> 01:49:22,467
Speaker 15: It really affected the Top ten shootout because it was

2068
01:49:23,467 --> 01:49:26,587
Speaker 15: blowing sort of if you're standing on pitt Lane and

2069
01:49:26,667 --> 01:49:29,307
Speaker 15: if you listeners can pitcher it and you're looking up

2070
01:49:29,347 --> 01:49:31,587
Speaker 15: at the mountain. The wind was blowing from right to left.

2071
01:49:32,187 --> 01:49:34,587
Speaker 15: So the cars across the top and skyline were going

2072
01:49:35,307 --> 01:49:39,987
Speaker 15: ten to fifteen ki kilometers an hour faster across the top,

2073
01:49:40,267 --> 01:49:42,707
Speaker 15: which means because you don't have a speedometer in the car,

2074
01:49:43,507 --> 01:49:45,347
Speaker 15: sometimes you don't realize that, but when you come to

2075
01:49:45,427 --> 01:49:47,747
Speaker 15: your breaking point, suddenly you're going that little bit faster

2076
01:49:48,267 --> 01:49:52,067
Speaker 15: and it's just like that, oh squeeze the budget time

2077
01:49:52,267 --> 01:49:56,147
Speaker 15: down to the department, so that that caught some of

2078
01:49:56,227 --> 01:49:58,027
Speaker 15: them out when they just went off onto the grass.

2079
01:49:58,107 --> 01:50:00,667
Speaker 15: So it does really affect it. And especially if you

2080
01:50:00,747 --> 01:50:03,547
Speaker 15: get a towel went down Conrad, that can make the

2081
01:50:03,627 --> 01:50:06,187
Speaker 15: cars go palpably quicker, but then you're going to be

2082
01:50:06,227 --> 01:50:09,947
Speaker 15: an headwind up the mountain, so you'd be using more fuel. So, yes,

2083
01:50:09,987 --> 01:50:13,427
Speaker 15: you are absolutely right. Pinety paid quite a big factor,

2084
01:50:13,547 --> 01:50:15,587
Speaker 15: especially if it's gusty, because at one minute you'd be

2085
01:50:15,947 --> 01:50:17,907
Speaker 15: minding your own business and it's all called of groovy.

2086
01:50:18,347 --> 01:50:20,267
Speaker 15: The next lap it might gust up to sort of

2087
01:50:20,587 --> 01:50:23,307
Speaker 15: forty or fifty knots and suddenly the car has moved,

2088
01:50:24,027 --> 01:50:25,947
Speaker 15: you know, a foot to the left or right, and

2089
01:50:26,747 --> 01:50:28,307
Speaker 15: you don't want the car to move a millimeter, let

2090
01:50:28,347 --> 01:50:29,147
Speaker 15: alone at four or two.

2091
01:50:30,907 --> 01:50:32,747
Speaker 2: You paint some wonderful pictures for us. Mate, thank you

2092
01:50:32,827 --> 01:50:35,187
Speaker 2: so much for joining us across the weekend on weekend Sport.

2093
01:50:35,427 --> 01:50:37,107
Speaker 2: I'll leave you to it and look forward to reading

2094
01:50:37,187 --> 01:50:40,147
Speaker 2: your report and your reaction pieces of it later at

2095
01:50:40,227 --> 01:50:42,467
Speaker 2: endsy Herald dot code on ends at Eric Thompson's been

2096
01:50:42,547 --> 01:50:45,387
Speaker 2: that mount panorama for us right across the weekend, So

2097
01:50:45,547 --> 01:50:49,267
Speaker 2: through twenty two of one hundred and sixty one laps. Currently,

2098
01:50:49,747 --> 01:50:52,867
Speaker 2: as et mentioned, a number of the co drivers are

2099
01:50:53,227 --> 01:50:55,587
Speaker 2: in the seat at the moment, and it is Todd

2100
01:50:55,747 --> 01:50:58,227
Speaker 2: Hazelwood who is the co driver to Brodie Costeki, the

2101
01:50:58,307 --> 01:51:04,067
Speaker 2: pulsater who continues to lead, then Cooper Murray. They start

2102
01:51:04,107 --> 01:51:06,827
Speaker 2: a sixth on the grid. Cooper Murray's is the the

2103
01:51:06,907 --> 01:51:09,427
Speaker 2: main game driver, with Job Stewart there in second place

2104
01:51:09,467 --> 01:51:12,427
Speaker 2: at the moment. Jamie Wincup, who's co driver for Brock Feene,

2105
01:51:12,867 --> 01:51:16,707
Speaker 2: currently in third position, and I'm just gonna look down

2106
01:51:16,787 --> 01:51:19,467
Speaker 2: and try and find Ryan Wood. Can't find him. At

2107
01:51:19,467 --> 01:51:22,667
Speaker 2: the moment. His co driver Jaden o Jada just not

2108
01:51:22,787 --> 01:51:26,347
Speaker 2: able to read the graphics on his position at the moment,

2109
01:51:26,987 --> 01:51:29,307
Speaker 2: just before we move to a break and get onto

2110
01:51:29,867 --> 01:51:33,067
Speaker 2: some some snow sport action. Just wanted to go back

2111
01:51:33,107 --> 01:51:36,747
Speaker 2: twenty four hours because every Saturday we play a sporting

2112
01:51:36,907 --> 01:51:39,067
Speaker 2: chance with the tab. We offer up a one hundred

2113
01:51:39,107 --> 01:51:42,467
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars bonus bet and give one of our

2114
01:51:42,507 --> 01:51:45,867
Speaker 2: listeners the chance to punt with it on a choice

2115
01:51:45,907 --> 01:51:48,947
Speaker 2: of three options short, evens, all long. Now, Blake was

2116
01:51:48,987 --> 01:51:53,027
Speaker 2: our lucky caller yesterday, so I gave him his three options.

2117
01:51:53,707 --> 01:51:56,307
Speaker 2: Brodie Kistiki to win the top ten shootout, you'd get

2118
01:51:56,387 --> 01:51:59,547
Speaker 2: one eighty seven fifty Tasman. To beat Bay of plenty

2119
01:51:59,627 --> 01:52:03,347
Speaker 2: by one to twelve, you'd get four eighty hawks Bay

2120
01:52:03,427 --> 01:52:07,907
Speaker 2: Taranaki to have fewer than thirty points sixteen hundred and fifty.

2121
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Speaker 2: What are you going to go for, Blake?

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01:52:10,667 --> 01:52:13,187
Speaker 9: Me, mate, I'm going to go short, buddy, I'm going

2123
01:52:13,227 --> 01:52:14,107
Speaker 9: to stick them by man.

2124
01:52:14,427 --> 01:52:16,787
Speaker 5: Yep, I'm going to go short with KOSTICKI.

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01:52:17,147 --> 01:52:19,307
Speaker 2: Brodie kstick is your man. You're you've got a bit

2126
01:52:19,347 --> 01:52:21,547
Speaker 2: of a soft spot for Brody Well if he wins

2127
01:52:21,587 --> 01:52:24,187
Speaker 2: the top ten shootout, and as I said to Eric Thompson,

2128
01:52:24,507 --> 01:52:27,147
Speaker 2: everybody's chasing him. One eighty seven to fifty for you.

2129
01:52:27,227 --> 01:52:29,747
Speaker 5: Mate, brilliant. That's really really top notch stuff. Thank you

2130
01:52:29,827 --> 01:52:30,187
Speaker 5: so much.

2131
01:52:30,507 --> 01:52:34,987
Speaker 2: That was Blake yesterday, a very astute pick Australian supercar

2132
01:52:35,107 --> 01:52:38,907
Speaker 2: driver Brodie Kistiki indeed winning the top ten shootout. So

2133
01:52:39,227 --> 01:52:43,067
Speaker 2: Blake collected one hundred and eighty seven dollars fifty for that.

2134
01:52:43,227 --> 01:52:45,067
Speaker 2: If he'd gone with either of the other two, he'd

2135
01:52:45,107 --> 01:52:48,027
Speaker 2: have won nothing. So sometimes very good to go short.

2136
01:52:48,907 --> 01:52:52,427
Speaker 2: We'll play a sporting chants again next Saturday on Weekend

2137
01:52:52,467 --> 01:52:55,307
Speaker 2: Sport twenty one away from three. When we come back,

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01:52:55,467 --> 01:52:58,107
Speaker 2: Luca Harrington is going to join us, one of our

2139
01:52:58,307 --> 01:53:02,587
Speaker 2: most promising young snow sporters who on Friday night was

2140
01:53:02,667 --> 01:53:06,107
Speaker 2: named Snow Sports New Zealand Athlete of the Year. He's

2141
01:53:06,147 --> 01:53:09,427
Speaker 2: going to recap his exceptional year and look ahead for us.

2142
01:53:09,467 --> 01:53:10,787
Speaker 2: Luca Harrington on the show after this.

2143
01:53:12,267 --> 01:53:15,667
Speaker 1: The Big Issues on and after Fields Call oh eight

2144
01:53:15,787 --> 01:53:18,747
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason.

2145
01:53:18,507 --> 01:53:19,547
Speaker 2: Fine and GJ.

2146
01:53:19,707 --> 01:53:23,987
Speaker 1: Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home Milder News talks at Baby.

2147
01:53:24,147 --> 01:53:26,867
Speaker 2: Seventeen to three. At the snow Sports New Zealand Annual

2148
01:53:26,907 --> 01:53:30,747
Speaker 2: Awards Night in Wonica on Friday Night, Freeskial, free Ski,

2149
01:53:30,987 --> 01:53:35,267
Speaker 2: Slope Style and Big Air athlete Luca Harrington was named

2150
01:53:35,427 --> 01:53:39,027
Speaker 2: snow Sports New Zealand Athlete of the Year. Luca Harrington

2151
01:53:39,107 --> 01:53:41,947
Speaker 2: had an exceptional twenty twenty four to twenty five season,

2152
01:53:42,267 --> 01:53:45,267
Speaker 2: winning on some of the biggest stages in free skiing.

2153
01:53:45,787 --> 01:53:49,347
Speaker 2: In January, he claimed gold in slope Style and silver

2154
01:53:49,547 --> 01:53:52,587
Speaker 2: in big Air at his first appearance at the Winter

2155
01:53:52,907 --> 01:53:55,587
Speaker 2: X Games. In March, he became the first key We

2156
01:53:55,707 --> 01:53:59,107
Speaker 2: to claim the Crystal Globe as overall champion for the

2157
01:53:59,347 --> 01:54:02,067
Speaker 2: FIS Big Air World Cup Tour, and two weeks later

2158
01:54:02,187 --> 01:54:04,947
Speaker 2: the first key We to win the FIS Free Ski

2159
01:54:05,107 --> 01:54:10,547
Speaker 2: Big Air World Champion. Your World Champion twenty twenty five.

2160
01:54:10,867 --> 01:54:12,987
Speaker 8: Here an Angerden, Luca Harrington.

2161
01:54:13,227 --> 01:54:17,787
Speaker 14: What a legend yiney five are you hitting?

2162
01:54:18,147 --> 01:54:18,467
Speaker 4: Luca?

2163
01:54:18,907 --> 01:54:21,667
Speaker 8: Let's go World Champs twenty twenty five.

2164
01:54:22,267 --> 01:54:25,707
Speaker 2: Luca Harrington is with us. Congratulations on the award, Luca,

2165
01:54:25,827 --> 01:54:29,507
Speaker 2: and on an absolutely exceptional year. If you and I

2166
01:54:29,627 --> 01:54:32,507
Speaker 2: were talking a year ago, could you have imagined the

2167
01:54:32,627 --> 01:54:35,587
Speaker 2: success that you have had in the last twelve months.

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01:54:37,627 --> 01:54:41,307
Speaker 8: Thank you very much, first of all, but no, absolutely not.

2169
01:54:41,627 --> 01:54:44,827
Speaker 8: This is those results were not what I was seeing

2170
01:54:44,827 --> 01:54:45,707
Speaker 8: in my future.

2171
01:54:45,427 --> 01:54:46,427
Speaker 4: Going into last season.

2172
01:54:46,667 --> 01:54:50,547
Speaker 8: But I'm very grateful for every moment that and for

2173
01:54:50,667 --> 01:54:52,507
Speaker 8: everything that happened.

2174
01:54:52,987 --> 01:54:56,187
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the X Games and Aspen in January,

2175
01:54:56,267 --> 01:54:59,387
Speaker 2: gold and silver there. Now, initially, weren't you just an

2176
01:54:59,427 --> 01:55:01,027
Speaker 2: alternate for those games?

2177
01:55:02,587 --> 01:55:06,227
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, So I was fortunate enough to get two alternates.

2178
01:55:07,387 --> 01:55:09,827
Speaker 8: I went for sup Cell ones for Big Air, and

2179
01:55:09,947 --> 01:55:14,267
Speaker 8: that originally meant that I'm a backup in case somebody

2180
01:55:14,347 --> 01:55:16,187
Speaker 8: does get hurt, but it means that I get to

2181
01:55:16,267 --> 01:55:18,707
Speaker 8: train and ski and be a part of the whole

2182
01:55:18,747 --> 01:55:21,427
Speaker 8: event right up until the actual competition.

2183
01:55:22,507 --> 01:55:24,547
Speaker 2: And so when did you find out that not only

2184
01:55:24,627 --> 01:55:26,667
Speaker 2: could you do all those things, but you actually were

2185
01:55:27,227 --> 01:55:28,587
Speaker 2: in the field for the two events.

2186
01:55:29,907 --> 01:55:30,107
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2187
01:55:30,267 --> 01:55:33,267
Speaker 8: So actually about a week before the X Game, so

2188
01:55:33,307 --> 01:55:36,707
Speaker 8: I got the official invite into the Big Air. But

2189
01:55:36,827 --> 01:55:40,627
Speaker 8: then coming down to Slope style, it was you know,

2190
01:55:40,707 --> 01:55:42,747
Speaker 8: I trained all week. I was kind of assuming I

2191
01:55:42,907 --> 01:55:45,107
Speaker 8: wasn't going to be in in the event, but uh,

2192
01:55:45,787 --> 01:55:47,467
Speaker 8: the night before the slop Cell event, we had a

2193
01:55:47,507 --> 01:55:51,227
Speaker 8: Big Air training at night under the lights, which was awesome.

2194
01:55:52,347 --> 01:55:54,947
Speaker 8: And then I got back down into the athlete zone,

2195
01:55:55,147 --> 01:55:57,947
Speaker 8: pulled out my phone and it's you know, nine o'clock

2196
01:55:57,987 --> 01:55:59,867
Speaker 8: at night, and we got the We got the slop

2197
01:55:59,947 --> 01:56:02,427
Speaker 8: cell the next day and I get an email saying, hey,

2198
01:56:02,507 --> 01:56:05,427
Speaker 8: you're in. So that was a pretty crazy moment.

2199
01:56:05,707 --> 01:56:09,067
Speaker 2: Absolutely, in some ways, did that take any pressure that

2200
01:56:09,147 --> 01:56:11,547
Speaker 2: you might have been feeling off that, you know, hey,

2201
01:56:11,787 --> 01:56:13,827
Speaker 2: this is almost a bit of a free hit, a

2202
01:56:13,907 --> 01:56:14,547
Speaker 2: bit of a bonus.

2203
01:56:15,827 --> 01:56:19,547
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, I think I think that's exactly what happened.

2204
01:56:19,587 --> 01:56:21,987
Speaker 8: I was, you know, I felt so relaxed up there

2205
01:56:22,187 --> 01:56:25,467
Speaker 8: during that comp. I wasn't you know, I wasn't expecting

2206
01:56:25,507 --> 01:56:28,147
Speaker 8: anything of myself. I was just trying to embrace the

2207
01:56:28,427 --> 01:56:31,027
Speaker 8: embrace the moment and enjoy being there with some my

2208
01:56:31,387 --> 01:56:33,547
Speaker 8: you know, some of my idols and some of my

2209
01:56:33,667 --> 01:56:36,987
Speaker 8: really good peers. So yeah, I definitely think that that

2210
01:56:37,107 --> 01:56:41,827
Speaker 8: whole confidence thing was very My confidence was very high

2211
01:56:41,907 --> 01:56:44,107
Speaker 8: up in there, just because I wasn't having to feel

2212
01:56:44,147 --> 01:56:44,667
Speaker 8: that pressure.

2213
01:56:45,187 --> 01:56:46,787
Speaker 2: So look at just for the benefit of some of

2214
01:56:46,827 --> 01:56:50,267
Speaker 2: our listeners who aren't as familiar with snowsports as others,

2215
01:56:50,347 --> 01:56:53,347
Speaker 2: can you just explain the difference between slope style and

2216
01:56:53,467 --> 01:56:54,067
Speaker 2: big Air.

2217
01:56:54,107 --> 01:56:58,427
Speaker 8: For us, Yeah, absolutely so. Slope Style is an event

2218
01:56:58,507 --> 01:57:02,467
Speaker 8: where there are multiple features throughout the run. Usually it

2219
01:57:02,587 --> 01:57:07,507
Speaker 8: consists of consists of about three different rails, which are

2220
01:57:07,667 --> 01:57:10,667
Speaker 8: you know, the big big metal rails that we slide on,

2221
01:57:10,827 --> 01:57:14,267
Speaker 8: and then usually three different jumps as well. With a

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01:57:14,307 --> 01:57:19,307
Speaker 8: Big Air event is just one big jump and uh yeah,

2223
01:57:19,507 --> 01:57:21,547
Speaker 8: you just got to do two different directions. We're in

2224
01:57:21,627 --> 01:57:24,107
Speaker 8: the slope Cell run. You have to really put a

2225
01:57:24,187 --> 01:57:26,747
Speaker 8: lot more effort in and create a bunch of different

2226
01:57:26,787 --> 01:57:27,987
Speaker 8: tricks and link them together.

2227
01:57:28,507 --> 01:57:30,187
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite of the two?

2228
01:57:32,267 --> 01:57:32,707
Speaker 7: Not really.

2229
01:57:33,307 --> 01:57:35,427
Speaker 8: I think I was definitely a little bit more successful

2230
01:57:35,467 --> 01:57:37,627
Speaker 8: in Big Air this year, but I really love the

2231
01:57:37,747 --> 01:57:38,707
Speaker 8: challenge to slope Cell.

2232
01:57:39,587 --> 01:57:41,347
Speaker 2: So in the Big Air, as you say, it's just

2233
01:57:41,427 --> 01:57:43,147
Speaker 2: the one jump, I know you get three runs. But

2234
01:57:43,227 --> 01:57:45,387
Speaker 2: as you standing at the top there, how do you

2235
01:57:45,507 --> 01:57:48,947
Speaker 2: prepare yourself for some of the to us anyway death

2236
01:57:49,067 --> 01:57:50,747
Speaker 2: defying tricks that you're pulling out.

2237
01:57:53,347 --> 01:57:56,867
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's it's definitely scary. It's never easy standing at

2238
01:57:56,987 --> 01:58:00,507
Speaker 8: the top of a massive jump, putting your putting your

2239
01:58:00,547 --> 01:58:03,747
Speaker 8: body on the line. But I guess you know, we

2240
01:58:04,027 --> 01:58:06,747
Speaker 8: we spend so much time doing this stuff and we

2241
01:58:06,867 --> 01:58:09,987
Speaker 8: work really hard to perfect these tricks and to do

2242
01:58:10,107 --> 01:58:14,027
Speaker 8: them safely. So it's really just trusting and putting belief

2243
01:58:14,107 --> 01:58:16,427
Speaker 8: in your stuff. When you're standing at the top.

2244
01:58:16,347 --> 01:58:19,547
Speaker 2: There and as you're performing these tricks in mid air,

2245
01:58:20,107 --> 01:58:22,987
Speaker 2: look goodness, may most of us can't even put ourselves

2246
01:58:23,027 --> 01:58:27,067
Speaker 2: into that situation. Are you aware of what you're doing

2247
01:58:27,347 --> 01:58:29,547
Speaker 2: in those seconds when you're in the air or is

2248
01:58:29,587 --> 01:58:32,547
Speaker 2: it only till afterwards that you realize, hey, I've actually

2249
01:58:32,667 --> 01:58:33,067
Speaker 2: nailed that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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01:58:35,107 --> 01:58:38,387
Speaker 8: Absolutely, I mean that's a huge part of perfecting a

2252
01:58:38,467 --> 01:58:42,187
Speaker 8: trick is to be very aware in the air of

2253
01:58:42,267 --> 01:58:44,867
Speaker 8: what you are and that's a huge part of our

2254
01:58:44,907 --> 01:58:47,267
Speaker 8: sport when we're doing these when we're doing these double

2255
01:58:47,347 --> 01:58:50,907
Speaker 8: and triple cort tricks, is to know and where you

2256
01:58:51,027 --> 01:58:53,267
Speaker 8: are and be spotting the landing and always be aware

2257
01:58:53,267 --> 01:58:55,667
Speaker 8: of your surroundings so that you know you're not ending

2258
01:58:55,787 --> 01:58:58,787
Speaker 8: up falling or landing where you don't want to be landing.

2259
01:58:59,427 --> 01:59:02,507
Speaker 2: So X Games success there, then you went on to

2260
01:59:02,587 --> 01:59:05,347
Speaker 2: win the Crystal Globe as overall champion for the Big

2261
01:59:05,427 --> 01:59:07,387
Speaker 2: Air World Cup, were the first keyp We to win that.

2262
01:59:07,587 --> 01:59:09,307
Speaker 2: A couple of weeks later, the first key We to

2263
01:59:09,347 --> 01:59:12,587
Speaker 2: win the Free Sky Big Air World Championship. How special

2264
01:59:12,667 --> 01:59:14,267
Speaker 2: was the World Championship win for you?

2265
01:59:15,947 --> 01:59:18,867
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was pretty incredible. You know, we've seen it

2266
01:59:19,027 --> 01:59:24,427
Speaker 8: happen from Zoe in the past, and you know, it's

2267
01:59:24,507 --> 01:59:26,907
Speaker 8: the World Chance that comes around every two years. It's

2268
01:59:26,947 --> 01:59:30,387
Speaker 8: a very special moment. Only a few people get to

2269
01:59:31,227 --> 01:59:33,907
Speaker 8: selected to go as part of the New Zealand team,

2270
01:59:34,507 --> 01:59:37,347
Speaker 8: So yeah, the World Chances is definitely a very special

2271
01:59:37,427 --> 01:59:37,827
Speaker 8: moment for me.

2272
01:59:38,387 --> 01:59:41,307
Speaker 2: Whenever I watch snow sports, it always looks as though

2273
01:59:41,907 --> 01:59:45,827
Speaker 2: the competitors are just as happy for one another when

2274
01:59:45,867 --> 01:59:48,387
Speaker 2: they pull off great performances as they are in their

2275
01:59:48,427 --> 01:59:51,907
Speaker 2: own performances. What is the camaraderie really like in your sport?

2276
01:59:53,227 --> 01:59:53,427
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2277
01:59:53,467 --> 01:59:56,187
Speaker 8: Absolutely, I mean it is an individual sport, and of

2278
01:59:56,267 --> 01:59:59,107
Speaker 8: course we're always wanting to beat each other and you know,

2279
01:59:59,307 --> 02:00:01,707
Speaker 8: be at the top of the on the top of

2280
02:00:01,747 --> 02:00:05,827
Speaker 8: the steps. But in the end, our culture and our

2281
02:00:05,867 --> 02:00:09,747
Speaker 8: community in the freestyle scene is just just one giant family,

2282
02:00:09,867 --> 02:00:11,827
Speaker 8: you know we are. We're all there doing it for

2283
02:00:11,907 --> 02:00:14,347
Speaker 8: the same reasons. We're all there to push each other

2284
02:00:14,467 --> 02:00:17,027
Speaker 8: and to help each other, and of course we're going

2285
02:00:17,067 --> 02:00:18,547
Speaker 8: to celebrate each other along the way.

2286
02:00:18,707 --> 02:00:20,907
Speaker 2: All right, let's look ahead now, weik Osawaga. You were

2287
02:00:20,947 --> 02:00:23,427
Speaker 2: confirmed as one of the first group of New Zealand

2288
02:00:23,467 --> 02:00:25,907
Speaker 2: athletes to earn selection for the Winter Olympics coming up

2289
02:00:25,947 --> 02:00:30,147
Speaker 2: in Melana, Cootina in February. So between now and then,

2290
02:00:30,227 --> 02:00:32,387
Speaker 2: what will your build up involve?

2291
02:00:34,307 --> 02:00:37,427
Speaker 8: Yeah, so, of course that's the that's the big one.

2292
02:00:38,667 --> 02:00:40,987
Speaker 8: We have a couple of months in between where we

2293
02:00:41,067 --> 02:00:43,627
Speaker 8: will be We're heading off to Austria at the end

2294
02:00:43,667 --> 02:00:45,747
Speaker 8: of this month actually to get in some training, to

2295
02:00:45,787 --> 02:00:48,747
Speaker 8: go to a training camp in the Stubai Valley just

2296
02:00:48,827 --> 02:00:53,547
Speaker 8: outside Innsbruck. But then before the Olympics, I'll be doing

2297
02:00:54,067 --> 02:00:58,467
Speaker 8: around I think five or six competitions going in so

2298
02:00:58,907 --> 02:01:02,147
Speaker 8: a few of these will be the World Cup Tour,

2299
02:01:02,747 --> 02:01:04,867
Speaker 8: so the Big airon slipstyle World Cup Tour. And then

2300
02:01:04,907 --> 02:01:07,627
Speaker 8: I've also been ucky enough to get an invite back

2301
02:01:07,667 --> 02:01:09,827
Speaker 8: to the X Games again this year, so I'll be

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02:01:09,907 --> 02:01:13,147
Speaker 8: competing in that in January, before the Olympics.

2303
02:01:13,427 --> 02:01:16,027
Speaker 2: Where does the Winter Games, Luca? You know you talk

2304
02:01:16,067 --> 02:01:19,787
Speaker 2: about Big Air and how special sorry X Games and

2305
02:01:19,827 --> 02:01:23,547
Speaker 2: how big, how special that is. Does the Winter Olympics compare?

2306
02:01:23,787 --> 02:01:25,387
Speaker 2: Are you able to compare the two?

2307
02:01:26,747 --> 02:01:30,387
Speaker 8: I mean absolutely yeah. The Olympics, of course, it's it's

2308
02:01:30,467 --> 02:01:33,147
Speaker 8: the big one. It comes around every four years, where

2309
02:01:33,267 --> 02:01:37,507
Speaker 8: X Games is every year. But honestly, to some people

2310
02:01:37,587 --> 02:01:41,267
Speaker 8: in the freestyle community, the X Games is almost more

2311
02:01:41,347 --> 02:01:45,187
Speaker 8: important because even less even less people get to go

2312
02:01:45,267 --> 02:01:47,227
Speaker 8: to that one. And if you're so, if you're one

2313
02:01:47,267 --> 02:01:51,147
Speaker 8: of those few people selected to be skiing during the

2314
02:01:51,387 --> 02:01:53,307
Speaker 8: X Games, it's a pretty incredible thing.

2315
02:01:53,667 --> 02:01:55,587
Speaker 2: And your brother Ben went to the twenty twenty two

2316
02:01:55,667 --> 02:01:58,307
Speaker 2: Winter Games and the half pipe, I know he's gunning

2317
02:01:58,347 --> 02:02:01,387
Speaker 2: for selection for twenty twenty six as well. How special

2318
02:02:01,427 --> 02:02:04,547
Speaker 2: would it be to go to a Winter Olympic Games

2319
02:02:04,827 --> 02:02:05,827
Speaker 2: together as brothers?

2320
02:02:06,667 --> 02:02:10,387
Speaker 8: Yeah, it would be incredible. That's been a huge golf

2321
02:02:10,467 --> 02:02:13,027
Speaker 8: for me and my family, and you know, it's been

2322
02:02:13,427 --> 02:02:15,467
Speaker 8: our dream for so long to have us both there.

2323
02:02:17,067 --> 02:02:18,627
Speaker 8: You know, it's a hard one not to be there

2324
02:02:18,707 --> 02:02:22,267
Speaker 8: with him at the twenty twenty two Games. But I

2325
02:02:22,347 --> 02:02:25,347
Speaker 8: think things are looking pretty bright this year and it's

2326
02:02:25,387 --> 02:02:28,467
Speaker 8: gonna be very honored to be skiing with him in

2327
02:02:29,147 --> 02:02:29,907
Speaker 8: Italy this year.

2328
02:02:30,107 --> 02:02:32,027
Speaker 2: What is it about that town of yours, man Wannica.

2329
02:02:32,147 --> 02:02:35,987
Speaker 2: It's probably used so many world class snowsport athletes and

2330
02:02:36,067 --> 02:02:39,467
Speaker 2: so many families as well, with multiple siblings who are

2331
02:02:39,547 --> 02:02:40,547
Speaker 2: all just amazing.

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02:02:42,227 --> 02:02:45,547
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Definitely something in the water down here.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just going to tell you what that might

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Speaker 2: be fair enough. How nice has it been there to

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Speaker 2: be home for it? Because you spend the you know,

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Speaker 2: you spend the year or most of the sort of offshore.

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Speaker 2: How nice has it been to have a bit of

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Speaker 2: time back home?

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Speaker 8: Oh, it's always so good. I mean it's a bit tough.

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Speaker 8: Our winters are nowhere near as long as the Northern

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Speaker 8: Hemisphere winters, so you know, I feel like I am

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Speaker 8: not spending more time away from home than I do

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Speaker 8: at home, but you know, makes it that much more special.

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Speaker 4: Than I am back.

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Speaker 2: Luca, congrats on a terrific year, mate, and on your

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Speaker 2: award on Friday night, which I know was well accepted

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Speaker 2: and thoroughly deserved. All the best for what lies ahead.

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Speaker 2: Made a very exciting time as we draw closer to

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Speaker 2: the Winter Olympics. I really appreciate you taking the time

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Speaker 2: for a chat.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, thank you for the chat, and yeah, appreciate the support.

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Speaker 8: Thank you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Luca. Luca Harrington snow Sports New Zealand Athlete

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Speaker 2: of the Year seven to three New stalks. He'd be

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Speaker 2: four to three. That's us on Weekend Sport for today,

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Speaker 2: huge thanks to Anny McDonald for pulling the two shows together.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to you as well for listening in and taking

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Speaker 2: part of That's what you Chose to do. Tim Beverage

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Speaker 2: is on your radio after three o'clock exit song today

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Speaker 2: Will It's all been about Beth. It's really across the weekend,

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Speaker 2: and so the car theme continues and a good description

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Speaker 2: of what I'm going to do now is just shut

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Speaker 2: up and watch people drive. See them row night.

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