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Speaker 1: Ellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Jaguar f

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Speaker 2: Morning and welcome Mike's on holiday. I'll be with you

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Speaker 2: for the rest of the week. Today, the government's considering

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Speaker 2: a big shake up of the building consent system. We're

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Speaker 2: going to speak to the sector. We'll also speak to

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Speaker 2: the ministry about it. How to avoid a leaky building crisis,

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Speaker 2: if you know what I mean. Big moment in the

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Speaker 2: Middle East over the weekend, Israel's killed his baller's leader.

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Speaker 2: Will cross there to see how close this brings us

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Speaker 2: to war? Southern Cross on how many of us are

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Speaker 2: turning to private healthcare? Richard Arnold and Steve Price as well.

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Speaker 3: Good Heather duplicy, Ellen.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what I did not expect, the hostile reaction

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Speaker 2: the government is getting to its order for public servants

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Speaker 2: to go back into the office. I mean, this was

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Speaker 2: a week ago already, and people are still spitting tax

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Speaker 2: about this thing seven or eight days on. I mean

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Speaker 2: one columnist over the weekend described it as modern slavery. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's mean too, isn't it. I'm describing workers on an

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Speaker 2: average about one hundred thousand dollars as slaves just because

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Speaker 2: they're forced to go into the offices completely losing the plot.

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Speaker 2: They're obviously not slaves. They paid employees, and they're being

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Speaker 2: asked by their employer, which is the government, to do

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Speaker 2: what their contract says, which is simply to go back

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Speaker 2: into the office and work from there. Here's a home

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Speaker 2: truth for you, right. If you like the working from home,

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Speaker 2: get over it. It's going to end. It's a losing battle.

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Speaker 2: Most global CEOs now believe we will be mostly back

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Speaker 2: to working completely from the office in the next three years.

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Speaker 2: And this is according I mean, this is reputable stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's according to a survey by KPMG had only out

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Speaker 2: about a week ago. A year ago, if you'd as CEOs,

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Speaker 2: how many of us are going to be back in

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Speaker 2: the office? Is this thing going to happen? They would

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Speaker 2: about sixty four percent of them would have said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll go back to the office this year. Eighty three

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Speaker 2: percent of them said we're all back in the office

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Speaker 2: in three years.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: What that tells you is CEOs are hardening their stance

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Speaker 2: on this. Running through list of companies, you will recognize

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Speaker 2: that have already ordered their workers back either three, four

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Speaker 2: or five days a week. Starbucks, General Motors, Disney, Walmart, Twitter, Dale, Amazon, Yahoo,

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Speaker 2: Bank of America, and KPMG. And I could go on,

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Speaker 2: because that's not a comprehensive list. Our public servants are

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Speaker 2: lucky that the order from the government is a little

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Speaker 2: bit woolly and there isn't a number of like a

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Speaker 2: minimum number of days they actually have to turn up

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Speaker 2: for work. In Canada there is a minimum number. It's three. Here,

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Speaker 2: it's a bit more of a viaue thing at the moment.

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Speaker 2: But I think we need to get used to this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's been a very nice experiment post COVID

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Speaker 2: to have some flexibility, and absolutely some flexibility will survive.

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Speaker 2: But clearly most CEOs of high performing companies have seen

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Speaker 2: something in this that they don't like. This is in

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Speaker 2: workers working one hundred percent from home, and for a

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Speaker 2: lot of them it's now over. So anyone giving our

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Speaker 2: government grief over this is either frankly remote working themselves,

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Speaker 2: or completely unaware of global business trends.

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Speaker 3: Why news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Tory election betting scandal rolls on and former

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Speaker 2: Deputy Prime Minister Oliver Dowden has hit his interview with police.

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Speaker 5: The betting investigation is still ongoing. Hundreds of documents have

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Speaker 5: been seized by the Gambling Commission from Tory HQ. It's

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Speaker 5: expected the case will continue for three to six months.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, they still trying to find their leader. Ahead of

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Speaker 2: the party's conference Thursday, Our Time. In the full finalists

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Speaker 2: Generic Cleverly, Bedknock and Tougandaut were asked what went wrong

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Speaker 2: with the election.

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Speaker 1: I think we failed to deliver for the British people.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that we deserved to win. People didn't

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Speaker 2: understand what we stood for.

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Speaker 1: We promised that migration would come down, It went up.

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Speaker 6: We promised taxes would come down.

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Speaker 3: It went up.

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Speaker 7: They wanted us out of office.

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Speaker 2: As the strikes continue to range down on Lebanon, we're

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Speaker 2: starting to get an understanding of the humanitarian crisis.

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Speaker 8: What we've seen in a few hours is unprecedented.

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Speaker 7: The number of people displaced.

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Speaker 2: Jumped from around three hundred thousand to almost a million.

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Speaker 2: This woman's now homeless and Beirut and the lover. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: the situation here in Lebanon is very chaotic and we

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Speaker 2: are really in a crisis, we don't know what is

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Speaker 2: going to happen. John Kirby has responded to Israel killing

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Speaker 2: hbolla's leader, Hassan Israla.

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Speaker 9: Each single civilian death is a tragedy and certainly, while

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Speaker 9: again nobody's mourning in israel A's death, we certainly do

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Speaker 9: more in any loss of civilian life.

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Speaker 2: As the far right Freedom Party of Austria looks to

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Speaker 2: win the election, there's been a look at why so

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Speaker 2: called far right parties are on the rise around the world.

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Speaker 10: I think what we've been missing is governments that actually

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Speaker 10: successfully govern. A lot of people are very unhappy with

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Speaker 10: the way that governments have tried to fulfill their mondays.

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Speaker 10: They feel that there aren't enough adults in the room.

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Speaker 10: That is prime terrain for populace.

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Speaker 2: And finally, fans of Prince in Purple Rain have the

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Speaker 2: opportunity to become I suppose residents of their dream home

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Speaker 2: over the weekend for the first time ever, Prince's former

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Speaker 2: home and the one that was made famous in Purple

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Speaker 2: Rain is being put up on Airbnb. Now, this is

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Speaker 2: a bit of a trend at the moment where you've

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Speaker 2: got the celebs putting the homes up on Airbnb. You've

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Speaker 2: got DiCaprio doing it, insure, Gwyneth Paltrow and of course

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Speaker 2: Ashton Kutcher and Mela Kunis. And with those you can

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Speaker 2: actually the last two actually spend the weekend with them

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Speaker 2: if you want to. In Prince's home, there's some of

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Speaker 2: his old instruments you can play. You've got costumes, you

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Speaker 2: got memorabilia from his shows in the nineteen eighties on display.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't break the bank either. It will cost

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Speaker 2: you just eleven bucks New Zealand dollars or seven US

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Speaker 2: dollars because seven was his favorite number. And that is

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Speaker 2: the news of the world in ninety seconds. Big news

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Speaker 2: over the weekend, obviously, is that Israel's managed to take

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Speaker 2: out Hassan Nazraela, the leader of Hezbolla. Now the significant

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Speaker 2: and actually kind of amazing that they managed to do

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Speaker 2: it because the US has tried to do this about

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Speaker 2: thirty years ago, I think, and completely failed in doing it. Apparently,

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Speaker 2: Benjamin Nettinya, who going to the US for that UN speech,

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Speaker 2: was actually part of the ruse that led to this

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Speaker 2: plan working. So Benjamin Nettinya, who left Israel for New

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Speaker 2: York basically to trick Israela into thinking that he was safe.

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Speaker 2: This is according to a senior Israeli official who sort

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Speaker 2: of spilled the beans on it. What they basically counted

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Speaker 2: in a twist that makes this whole thing much more ironic,

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Speaker 2: he was actually watching Netanyahu's speech when he was attacked

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Speaker 2: by the Israeli Air Force plays now we're going to

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Speaker 2: go to the Middle East and find out how close

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Speaker 2: this brings us toward Giddingon Levy is our Middle East correspondent.

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Speaker 2: He'll bear with us in about an hour's time. Thirteen

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Speaker 2: A'd be hey locally big market news this week will

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Speaker 2: be A two and what that announcement is if you've

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Speaker 2: been following what's going on here? A two has been

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Speaker 2: in a trading halt since the end of last week

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Speaker 2: over speculation that Something's saw a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: climb in the share price there ASX checked HI within

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Speaker 2: What's up and so they put themselves into a trading halt.

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Speaker 2: This is basically due to to some speculation well that

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Speaker 2: that due to announce that there'll be a possible acquisition,

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Speaker 2: And the speculation is that A two milk is buying

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Speaker 2: another product facility to keep an eye out for that.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen past six, but that's now as Greg Smith, Devin

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Speaker 2: Funds Management, Greg, good morning to yeod, morning to you hear.

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Speaker 2: What are you making of the consumer confidence numbers.

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Speaker 11: Getting a little bit better, that's still below par.

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Speaker 3: This is the A. Z.

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Speaker 11: Morgan Consumer Confidence Survey, so it was up three points

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Speaker 11: in September. It's actually the third straight month of improvement,

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Speaker 11: highest level since January twenty two. But year before we

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Speaker 11: get too celebratory, Yeah, things in the here and now

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Speaker 11: are still pretty tough. Consumers are doing it tough. So

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Speaker 11: it was really driven by expectations about the future.

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Speaker 3: Although if you look.

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Speaker 11: At it, you look one year out and the negative

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Speaker 11: seventeen percent expect the economy to be experiencing bad time.

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Speaker 11: Set to really look five years out to get to

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Speaker 11: plus nine percent when we get to see some good

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Speaker 11: times so of course of living is still high. That

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Speaker 11: seve inflation is getting under control. Inflation expectations unchanged at

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Speaker 11: three point eight percent. Households typically overestimate inflation, and of

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Speaker 11: course we've got the abn Z cutting rates. But yeah,

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Speaker 11: while rates are coming down or starting to, you know,

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Speaker 11: the reality is it's going to take time to filled through.

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Speaker 11: So we've got most mortgage diatas on fixed rates, so

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Speaker 11: it's going to take time for sort of households to

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Speaker 11: get bit of a boost there, and we've got around

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Speaker 11: about half of mortgage debt rolling over the next twelve

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Speaker 11: months actually, So as a result, in the twenty five

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Speaker 11: percent think it's still a bad time to buy a

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Speaker 11: major household on So that's not great for retailers sort

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Speaker 11: of heading into heading into Christmas. But in the twenty

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Speaker 11: five percent expect to be better off in the years time.

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Speaker 11: So it was quite interesting. So maybe an improving housing

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Speaker 11: market might be effected here here they're so expected house

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Speaker 11: price inflation lifted from two point eight to three point

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Speaker 11: two percent, lead by the North Island excluding Wellington notably.

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Speaker 11: But the sty also mirrors what we're seeing in business surveys.

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Speaker 11: You know, things at the moment, are still challenging, but

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Speaker 11: are expected to improve, So not all doom and gloom,

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Speaker 11: but perhaps further cause for the economy to be nursed

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Speaker 11: back to a bit more health. So maybe a decent

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Speaker 11: rate cup by the year. Ben Z next week, Who

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Speaker 11: wouldn't like that?

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Speaker 2: Hey, dal Jones, how's that looking to you?

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Speaker 11: Record high on Friday? It's a good news there, So

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Speaker 11: more talking inflation. There's more suggestions that this is getting

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Speaker 11: under control and continue to progress slow. This is the

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Speaker 11: PC price index that was out on Friday. It's the

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Speaker 11: Feeds preferred inflation gauge, up zero point one percent in August,

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Speaker 11: so that puts US inflation only at two point two percent.

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Speaker 11: Some areas inflation still persistent. You look at housing related

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Speaker 11: costs and services and it's a bit like elsewhere. But look,

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Speaker 11: the overall picture is a good one. Heather On inflation

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Speaker 11: gauge at the lowest since early twenty twenty one. It

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Speaker 11: was below estimates, and of course it comes just over

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Speaker 11: a week after the feed cut into straight to the

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Speaker 11: first time since March twenty twenty And yeah, like I

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Speaker 11: think it gives them the remit to perhaps go again

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Speaker 11: with a similar cut. You know, they cut fifty basics

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Speaker 11: the next spinning. That's it not till early November. So yeah,

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Speaker 11: the US economy, it's slowing, it's not falling off a cliff.

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Speaker 11: Personal incomes they rose just two point two percent on

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Speaker 11: the month. That was lower than estimates, but you still

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Speaker 11: potentially looking at a soft landing. The HEA investors certainly

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Speaker 11: encouraged by this, as are US consumers. We have the

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Greg, listen, thank you very much, go and

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Speaker 2: Did Jill it work for the previous lot? Very very well?

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Speaker 2: Actually talk a little bit more about Dunedin Hospital next

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Speaker 2: The Dunedin hospital build contract is CPB. It's the same

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Speaker 2: it's twenty two away from seven. Yeah, well it looks

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Speaker 14: Yeah, And there's no sugarcoating it. It's a frustrating situation

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Speaker 14: This project has been a shamuzzle for a large number

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Speaker 15: Looking into that.

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Speaker 2: Out of What are your options though, I mean, are

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Speaker 15: Well, we need to.

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Speaker 14: We need to assess whether it's worth going back out

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Speaker 14: I think what I would say to that is you

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Speaker 2: Hands are wed bit there. Thank you very much for

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Speaker 2: seven hundred million bucks. Christ Church Hospital is about twenty

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Speaker 2: three percent over budget two and a half years late.

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Speaker 2: They also had to replace faulty plumbing after the building

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Speaker 2: flooded about four years ago. The christ Church Convention Center,

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Speaker 2: eighteen months behind schedule, claimed an extra forty million dollars

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Speaker 2: on the project, which was covered by contingencies in the

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Speaker 2: budget transmission galley. They are responsible for that one too,

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Speaker 2: two years late, four hundred million dollars over budget. That's

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Speaker 2: come in at whopping one point twenty five billion. I

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Speaker 2: think that is fifty percent over budget, which is significant.

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Speaker 2: Six Stateway sixteen Causeway upgrade in Auckland on time, over budget,

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Speaker 2: Bayfair Baypark to Bayfair Roading project in the Bay of

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Speaker 2: Plenty way over budget, three years late, and now of

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Speaker 2: course to need in hospital. I suspect that maybe just

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Speaker 2: you know, ask around, you might be able to get

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Speaker 2: a better deal. Seventeen away from.

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Speaker 2: Hither it can be done? Christ stadiums builders on time

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Speaker 2: and on budget. This contractors or shocker for the hospital

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Speaker 2: and for everything else. Fourteen away from seven.

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Speaker 2: New It's thirds one of Richard Arnold's with say Richard,

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Speaker 2: good morning, good morning, healler. Okay, what's the latest on

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Speaker 2: the hurricane.

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Speaker 16: You know, when it comes to natural disasters, the emergency

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Speaker 16: services typically say they're aren't they mobilized? Things are occurring

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Speaker 16: much as anticipated. Well, this time it is a different

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Speaker 16: take from Dan Criswell, who runs FEMA, the federal agency.

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Speaker 16: She says she doesn't believe that anyone could be fully

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Speaker 16: prepared for the amount of flooding brought on by this

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Speaker 16: Hurricane Helene. This massive storm barreled on shore as a

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Speaker 16: Category four hurricane early on Saturday, your time.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 16: The storm surge has been catastrophic and the amount of

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Speaker 16: water falling inland has been just devastating. Place after place

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Speaker 16: just looks like a disaster zone. The desktoll Ride at

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Speaker 16: the minute is sixty four and increasing. Ashville in North Carolina,

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Speaker 16: Mountaintown has been isolated. They're sending food into that place

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Speaker 16: through air drops because more than four hundred roads have

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Speaker 16: been closed, damaged or washed out. FEMA Chief Criswell says,

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Speaker 16: we have.

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Speaker 17: Right now, I believe it's nine search and rescue teams

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Speaker 17: in North Carolina. We have more that are coming in today.

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Speaker 17: I talked to our lead on the ground there this morning,

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Speaker 17: and the current information I have as they've done close

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Speaker 17: to five hundred rescue.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, some people are being taken off roofs of flooded buildings.

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Speaker 16: It's reminiscent of Hurricane Contriter in my mind mind going

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Speaker 16: back way back to five. Eastern Tennessee also is badly here.

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Speaker 15: I don't think anyone thought it would be this bad.

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Speaker 16: At a number of places just looked like a bomber's kit.

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Speaker 17: They don't have homes, they don't have oxygen, they don't

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Speaker 17: have water.

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Speaker 14: They're just trying to keep everybody alive.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, the full scale of this really isn't known at

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Speaker 16: the minute. But this fellow who lost half his home.

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Speaker 15: Says, what do we do?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 12: Do we keep?

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Speaker 3: Do we continue to do?

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Speaker 7: This?

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Speaker 3: Good question?

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Speaker 16: Our things changing? We know the Gulf waterers are getting

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Speaker 16: warmer by a few degrees and the behavior of these

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Speaker 16: storms is shifting, says the FEMA chief in her assessment

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Speaker 16: of it.

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Speaker 17: We're seeing so much more water damage and I think

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Speaker 17: that is a result of the warm waters, which is

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Speaker 17: a result of climate change.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and there's been a lot of debate about that, obviously,

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Speaker 16: and by the sound of it, there's going to.

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Speaker 2: Be a lot more Richard, the US must be feeling

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Speaker 2: pretty upset with Israel over the ceasefire talk ahead of

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Speaker 2: the weekend and now nowhere near spot on.

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Speaker 16: Of course, we've seen President Biden talking about his hopes

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Speaker 16: received fire over weeks and months, but is ready Leader Netanyahu,

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Speaker 16: not Biden, seems to be the one who is setting

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Speaker 16: the course and this is ongoing. We have another high

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Speaker 16: ranking Haswella leader who has been killed by an Israeli

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Speaker 16: airstrike following on from the assassination of the head of

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Speaker 16: the terror group hus In Zezrauela, who led it for

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Speaker 16: more than thirty years. The US says he did not

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Speaker 16: know of the assassination plans. Take that as you will.

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Speaker 16: President Biden says in the statement that Nozruela's death is

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Speaker 16: a quote measure of justice for his many victims, including

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Speaker 16: thousands of Americans, Israelis, and Lebanese civilians.

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Speaker 3: The US is as ready.

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Speaker 16: Forces now killed the top thirty or so leaders of

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Speaker 16: Hasbela over the past few weeks. One was a man

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Speaker 16: named Ibrahim Akiel, who was sought by the Americans over

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Speaker 16: his role in the bombing of the US Marine Coar

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Speaker 16: Barracks in Beirut way back in nineteen eighty three. As Forzrauella,

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Speaker 16: he would go to extraordinary lengths to try to conceal

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Speaker 16: his location, and the New York Times reporter Neil mcfarquire

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Speaker 16: recalls being taken to interview him. This was twenty something

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Speaker 16: years ago.

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Speaker 2: We were taken in a darkened vand with blindfolds on

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Speaker 2: around for a while, and then they let us into

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Speaker 2: an apartment complex, not unlike those that were bombed.

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Speaker 16: Well, the Israeli has found him clearly, and from the

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Speaker 16: images of the building damage, it looks like Israel employed

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Speaker 16: a US made bunker busting bomb as a national security aid.

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Speaker 16: Here John Kirby is saying now of Hasbula.

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Speaker 9: The command structure has been nearly decimated, thousands of missiles

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Speaker 9: and drones destroyed by Israel over the last few days.

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Speaker 9: There's no question that the hes bler today is not

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Speaker 9: the hesbuler that was even just a week ago.

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Speaker 16: But can you destroy a terror group by assassinating its leader?

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Speaker 16: And what will Irun, which has supported Hasbela as it's proxy,

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Speaker 16: what will run do about all of this?

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Speaker 2: Is a very good question, Richard, thank you very much,

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Speaker 2: My appreciate It's Richard Arnold, US correspondent. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: Giddy and Levy as I said about goodness, let's say

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Speaker 2: twenty minutes time with theirabouts look on something else entirely

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Speaker 2: looks like kiwis are increasingly moving to private healthcare. Southern

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Speaker 2: Cross just posted this morning. It's twenty twenty four results

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Speaker 2: just if it is. Basically it cannot afford how many

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Speaker 2: of us are now closed aiming at the level that

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Speaker 2: we are claiming for private healthcare paid out about one

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Speaker 2: point five billion dollars in claims last year. That's basically

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Speaker 2: get a load of this six million dollars every business day.

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Speaker 2: They say that's an extraordinary year that they've just had

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Speaker 2: deficit of eighty eight million. As a result, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have a chat to them quarter past seven right now,

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Speaker 2: it's nine away from seven, Heather dup.

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Speaker 1: C Ellen on the My Costing Breakfast with the Jaguar

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Speaker 2: EDB, Heather, you forgot that the y Carrier prison build

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Speaker 2: should also be on your list of projects that CPB

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Speaker 2: have failed to deliver. Jesuits, thank you. Six goes to seven.

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Speaker 2: It's actually getting far worse, hey. The government is considering

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Speaker 2: and this is potentially quite big news for anybody who's

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Speaker 2: involved in renovating or building or anything considering tiding up

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Speaker 2: the building consent system. Now at the moment, if you've

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Speaker 2: done any of this stuff yourself, and Lord, for my

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Speaker 2: sins I have, you have got to go get your

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Speaker 2: building consent from the local council and then if you

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Speaker 2: do it in Wellington, well you're you know, you know

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Speaker 2: what it's like in Wellington. It's fairly inept anyway. So

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Speaker 2: the councils are handling it, sixty seven of them, local

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Speaker 2: body territory whatever you call them, you know, like local

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Speaker 2: body council clusters. Yeah all that, yeah, thank you, much

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Speaker 2: better way to describe it. Sixty seven clusters are handling

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Speaker 2: them throughout the country and they all have different interpretations

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Speaker 2: of the rules, because of course they do. So what

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Speaker 2: the government is thinking of doing is somehow just making

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Speaker 2: this a little bit more streamlined, either forcing the clusters

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Speaker 2: to amalgamate, allowing them to voluntarily amalgamate, or and this

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Speaker 2: may be the better way of dealing with it, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, just chucking it to some sort of a

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Speaker 2: central body to oversee it. We're going to have a

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Speaker 2: chat to the master Builders after seven o'clock and then

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Speaker 2: Chris Pink, the Minister in charge of this, will be

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Speaker 2: with us after the half past seven news to explain

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Speaker 2: where his thinking on this thing is. Five away from seven.

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Speaker 3: All the ins and the ouse. It's the fears with

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Speaker 3: business fiber. Take your business productivity to the next level, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, so the big advertised salaries are starting to come

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Speaker 2: down from their lofty heights. Now I am talking about

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Speaker 2: the sikh in Z Advertised Salary Index. It's found that

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Speaker 2: advertised salaries grew three point seven percent in the year

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Speaker 2: to August, which was down slightly, ever so slightly, from

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Speaker 2: four point four percent from the previous quarter. It's also

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Speaker 2: down relatively significantly on the peak of the five point

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Speaker 2: one percent increase back in November last year, so that

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Speaker 2: three point seven percent is now the slowest annual rate

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Speaker 2: of growth since mid twenty twenty two, so over two years.

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Speaker 2: Although was still ahead on the pre COVID averages, Canterbury

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Speaker 2: still advertising the highest increased salaries for the same jobs

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Speaker 2: at four point four percent higher than this time last year.

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Speaker 2: Auckland salaries are up three point six and christ Church

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Speaker 2: up three point four now the rest of the North

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Speaker 2: Island around four point two percent, up rest of the

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Speaker 2: South Island two point three. So if you want a

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Speaker 2: job and you want a decent increase in the South Island,

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Speaker 2: then christ Church really is going to be your place

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Speaker 2: to go. Canterbury as anyway, in terms of industries, education

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Speaker 2: salaries have seen the biggest increase at eight point five percent,

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Speaker 2: followed by healthcare at eight point two percent and no surprise,

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Speaker 2: insurance jobs at seven point seven percent. There are just

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Speaker 2: three industries going back towards advertising and media down zero

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Speaker 2: point one. No, you can always go into real estate

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Speaker 2: down zero point nine, mining resources and energy down two

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Speaker 2: point seven. But Shane's onto that, So no fear at all.

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Speaker 2: All right, AI, We're gonna have to talk about AI

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Speaker 2: in the next hour. AI can do absolutely everything. Apparently

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Speaker 2: AI can do TV commercials as well. Brimworth is having

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Speaker 2: a crack at this. I think if we've got an opportunity,

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Speaker 2: I'll play you the commercial that reckon, the first commercial

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Speaker 2: TV commercial in the country done by AI. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to play it to you can decipher yourself if you

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Speaker 2: think it's a winner or not. But as I say,

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Speaker 2: straight after the news steal with the building consents, news

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Speaker 2: talks that.

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Speaker 18: BM demanding the answers from the decision makers.

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Speaker 1: Can the duplessy Ellen on the mic asking breakfast with

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Speaker 1: a Vida, retirement communities, Life your Way, news togs B.

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Speaker 2: Good morning here the doplicy Ellen and for Mike Hosking

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Speaker 2: will be back in a week's time or so. The

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Speaker 2: government's considering major reform first up of building consents. Consents

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Speaker 2: are currently handled by sixty seven councils around the country.

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Speaker 2: Now the government's considering either allowing these councils to work together,

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Speaker 2: or forcing them to work together, or setting up one

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Speaker 2: national body to handle the work. Master Builders CEO an

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Speaker 2: kor charmas with us. Now, Hey Ankert, hey head, why

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Speaker 2: is it that you actually get different interpretations of the

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Speaker 2: building rules from different councils? Why is that happening?

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Speaker 19: I think it's primarily one court, different councils. Every council's

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Speaker 19: using their own systems and processes, which just cans up

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Speaker 19: creating much more complexity and different interpretations.

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Speaker 2: Do we have examples of one builder who perhaps has

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Speaker 2: to get consents from various councils actually getting different interpretations

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Speaker 2: of the rules on one piece of work?

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Speaker 19: Multiple examples? So or eighty percent of master builders report

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Speaker 19: dealing with multiple btas, and many reports significant delays and

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Speaker 19: cause cause by consistencies between neighboring consenting authorities. We've even

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Speaker 19: heard stories that within a consenting authorities sometimes different inspectors

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Speaker 19: can have different interpretations and average time for a quot

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Speaker 19: of compliance to be issued after regional consent in New

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Speaker 19: Zealand is nearly one and a half years and we

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Speaker 19: need to find a way to do better than this.

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Speaker 2: So is the problem actually then the fact that people

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Speaker 2: are being asked to interpret and they're interpreting it, interpreting

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Speaker 2: it different, or is the way that the legislation has

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Speaker 2: written the problem?

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Speaker 19: I think it's how it's been interpreted there and when

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Speaker 19: you have multiple people applying different systems and processes to

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Speaker 19: you know, work out how to apply the code, dactors

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Speaker 19: and inconsistencies and anything. You know, you get ten people

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Speaker 19: to look at something, you'll get ten slightly different versions

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Speaker 19: of it. So if anything we can do to improve consistency,

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Speaker 19: it gives sectum maturity, build speed up projects and ultimately

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Speaker 19: reduced costs of building new homes.

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Speaker 2: So what's your preference of the three options? Do you

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Speaker 2: do you let them voluntarily amalgamate, do you force them

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Speaker 2: to do it, or do you just set up a

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Speaker 2: completely new body.

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Speaker 19: I think we need to have more conversations around, especially

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Speaker 19: how we address the joint and civil liability, which is

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Speaker 19: a key challenge for the local councils and ultimately the

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Speaker 19: right payers, and we probably need to have more conversation

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Speaker 19: with various stakeholders, including councils. In my view, I think

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Speaker 19: the options as they're laid out today are likely to

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Speaker 19: involve as we start doing deeper consultation with the industry

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Speaker 19: and stakeholders, probably too early to pick up preferred option.

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Speaker 19: My view would be a fact that we are acknowledging

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Speaker 19: and looking to address this issue, which I think will

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Speaker 19: have quite a significant impact and ultimately building houses better,

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Speaker 19: faster and cheaper. Any change is a positive change from

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Speaker 19: where we are today, and.

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Speaker 2: It good to talk to you. Thank you an Kit Sharma,

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Speaker 2: Master Builder CEO.

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Speaker 3: Here the duper c l over.

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Speaker 2: The weekend, Israel managed to kill his bull's lead in

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Speaker 2: Hassan Nazraala and overnight the Idea of also claimed to

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Speaker 2: have killed another senior figure in the group. This leaves

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Speaker 2: the Middle East on the brink of war and backward.

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Speaker 2: That's a journalist and analyst Gideon Levy, Hey, Gideon.

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Speaker 20: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: How close to war?

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Speaker 15: Are we.

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Speaker 3: Very close?

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Speaker 8: But it might still be prevented.

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Speaker 21: But it seems that we.

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Speaker 3: Are very close.

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Speaker 2: How could it be prevented?

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Speaker 8: My international pressure and by hoping that it's Balad and

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Speaker 8: Iran will not retaliate. If they will as well, you

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Speaker 8: go for ground operation and then it's a your game.

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Speaker 2: Does even if I mean, obviously Hezbollah wants revenge, but

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Speaker 2: does it actually have the ability right now, given the

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Speaker 2: fact that it's being pummeled by Israel. Does it actually

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Speaker 2: have the ability to regroup and do something.

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Speaker 8: The experts say that yes, they were over one hundred

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Speaker 8: fighters and it's only about the commanders who were assassinated,

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Speaker 8: and the capabilities are still there and some of the

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Speaker 8: weapons are still there. But I'm not an expert for

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Speaker 8: Risbala for their arms. But the experts say that they

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Speaker 8: still have the capability. Yes, they have to recover from

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Speaker 8: the first shock, and then they might retaliate.

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Speaker 2: Does Israel want to pull back or has Israel got

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Speaker 2: an endgame here that requires it to keep going.

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Speaker 8: I'm afraid that Israel has an endgame of entering into

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Speaker 8: Lebanon and conquering the south part those kilometers between Israel

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Speaker 8: and the Litani River and take over. I'm very afraid

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Speaker 8: that this is the purpose, because by the end of

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Speaker 8: the day, Israel claims that it wants to return it's

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Speaker 8: sixty thousand citizens who were displaced from the homes because

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Speaker 8: of the danger, and they believe that by war they

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Speaker 8: can eliminate the danger.

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Speaker 2: If Iran does something, what does it do?

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Speaker 8: Oh, that's that's really a new game. I don't by

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Speaker 8: the way, I don't think Iran will do something directly,

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Speaker 8: because Iran is quite scared from the United States, and

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Speaker 8: Iran seems to have not only a new prime minister,

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Speaker 8: but also a new direction, namely not to get too

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Speaker 8: much involved directly because of the economy and because of

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Speaker 8: other reasons. They want to reconcile with the West in

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Speaker 8: a way, and the war is as well will destroy everything.

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Speaker 8: I don't see them getting into a war with as well,

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Speaker 8: because then the United States is in the picture, and

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Speaker 8: I guess they are rational enough to understand that this

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Speaker 8: might be too big price to pay.

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Speaker 18: Get in.

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Speaker 2: It's good to talk to you, Mike. Thanks for your analysis.

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Speaker 2: Getting in Livy Israeli and Israeli journalist and ANALYSTI you

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Speaker 2: have got another sign of how much trouble we're in

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Speaker 2: with midwives. If you've been following what's going on with

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Speaker 2: the midwives, we've had a bit of a shortage of

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Speaker 2: midwives and that was kind of happening naturally, But then

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Speaker 2: over COVID with the you know mid a midwives is

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Speaker 2: gonna mind if I say they're a bit wacky. They

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Speaker 2: have some funny ideas. Just now the time to be

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Speaker 2: saying that, probably not day one, you mean, oh, I

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Speaker 2: see what you mean about to have a baby.

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Speaker 6: I just worry that you don't want to be antagonizing.

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Speaker 2: This is a good point. Yeah, yes, Well it's done now,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. So I'm just gonna have to take my chances,

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Speaker 2: aren't I. Midwives have some funny ideas sometimes, and they

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Speaker 2: didn't really love being told by the health system they

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Speaker 2: needed to get the jab and various other things. And

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Speaker 2: so as a result, we've actually made the whole situation worse.

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Speaker 2: So I've got a bunch of midwives leaving as a

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Speaker 2: result of this, and I'm very sorry that this is happening,

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Speaker 2: because nothing like a midwife when you're about to have

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Speaker 2: a baby, you need that person there. Birth Care in

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Speaker 2: Central Auckland is closing its primary birthing suites because they

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Speaker 2: do not have enough midwives anymore. Whole bunch of midwives

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Speaker 2: have retired or quit, so from the thirty first of December,

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Speaker 2: it's all finished. And if you want to go, I

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Speaker 2: mean this is off see an option for second or

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Speaker 2: third time mums who aren't too worried and don't need

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Speaker 2: to go into the hospital. But now you're going to

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Speaker 2: have to go into the hospital because we're losing midwives

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Speaker 2: at such a rate of knots that needs to be addressed.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen past seven The Mic.

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News

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Speaker 1: Talks at b Here the.

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Speaker 2: Dunedin is a small city, declining population. It should have

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Speaker 2: a cottage hospital instead, just with an air ambulance added

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Speaker 2: air ambulance service added to that. We'll have a chat

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Speaker 2: about Dunedin in just a minute. At seventeen past seven.

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Speaker 2: Looks like kiwis are increasing speaking of health increasingly moving

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Speaker 2: to private healthcare and it is costing. Southern Cross, the

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Speaker 2: insurer has posted its twenty twenty four results this morning.

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Speaker 2: Here's a number. It's handing out six million dollars and

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Speaker 2: claims every single business stage joining me now is Southern

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Speaker 2: Cross Health Society Group Chief Executive Nick Astwo Kanak.

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Speaker 21: Good morning here.

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Speaker 2: Six million sounds like like an extraordinary number. How big

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Speaker 2: is that in contrast to previous years?

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Speaker 21: Well a couple where we're at five point two million

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Speaker 21: dollars in the previous years and we're up at about

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Speaker 21: six point six million dollars a day. At the moment,

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Speaker 21: it's about fifteen thousand claims a day, about three point

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Speaker 21: two million a year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is not an indication that

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Speaker 2: we're getting sicker or breaking downwards, just that more of

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Speaker 2: us are coming to.

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Speaker 21: You, right, Yeah, that's right. We sort of surveyed a

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Speaker 21: lot of New Zealanders and our Healthy Fatures Report, and

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Speaker 21: the third most the biggest concern that they had, after

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Speaker 21: the economy and crime to their health and well being

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Speaker 21: was access to the quality healthcare. So we know New

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Speaker 21: Zealand is seeing health is more priceless and certainly demand

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Speaker 21: and we had the busiest year. You know, we've never

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Speaker 21: been in more demand, and I guess while other businesses

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Speaker 21: have been sort of struggling in this economy with demand,

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Speaker 21: that has been the opposite for us. And so we've

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Speaker 21: grown to nine hundred and fifty five thousand members. That's

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Speaker 21: sort of the highest since nineteen ninety two. And in

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Speaker 21: any normal year we probably have a third of our

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Speaker 21: members claim. Last year we had fifty percent of our

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Speaker 21: members claim, So New Zealanders are prioritizing access to healthcare

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Speaker 21: and some across is a good solution thing.

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Speaker 2: What happened in nineteen ninety two that it was so high.

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Speaker 21: Well here the well back in the eighties there wasn't

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Speaker 21: any fringe benefit tax on private health insurance and I

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Speaker 21: think something cross got as high as about one point

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Speaker 21: two million members. So it had been tracking. But the

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Speaker 21: last eight years we've grown every single year in that membership.

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Speaker 2: Now, what do you think when you talk to people

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Speaker 2: about and have a little bit of a deep dive

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Speaker 2: into why they're actually joining up. Are these people who

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Speaker 2: are exceptionally wealthy so you know that are mind throwing

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Speaker 2: some money at private healthcare? Or are these people who

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Speaker 2: are building it into quite tight budgets because they see

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Speaker 2: it as so important.

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Speaker 21: Were right across the spectrum. When you think about our

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Speaker 21: nine hundred and fifty five thousand members, about half of

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Speaker 21: that membership is sort of paid in part or in

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Speaker 21: full by businesses of New Zealand and the other half

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Speaker 21: paying personally out are their own wallets. So we have,

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Speaker 21: you know, the workforces of New Zealand. We've got sort

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Speaker 21: of three and a half thousand businesses that than near

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Speaker 21: health insurance. So it has changed quite dramatically over the years.

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Speaker 21: You know where yes, we've got people that can afford

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Speaker 21: to invest in that healthcare, but also businesses are ready

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Speaker 21: backing their employees and to private care.

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Speaker 2: Nock, it's good to talk to you. Thanks runningus through.

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Speaker 2: It's Nick Astik, who is the Southern Cross Health Society

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Speaker 2: Group CEO. This is what the numbers are doing right.

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Speaker 2: Surgical procedure claims up eight percent, Specialist consultations up seven percent,

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Speaker 2: GP visit claims up twelve or twelve And I don't

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Speaker 2: even know you could claim for the GP, but evidently

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Speaker 2: you can up twelve and a half percent. Nee replacement

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Speaker 2: claims costs up seventeen percent, colonoscopies up seventeen percent, hit

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Speaker 2: replacements up eleven percent, Skin excisions are up fourteen percent.

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Speaker 2: Anything not go up. Prescription claims. Prescription cover claims foul

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Speaker 2: sixty six percent. That will be because Grant Grant was like,

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Speaker 2: it's on us, don't worry about the prescriptions on us,

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Speaker 2: not anymore. So that'll be going up again. Seven to

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Speaker 2: twenty one.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio Power

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Speaker 1: News Talk sad be.

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Speaker 2: Here the five point two million dollars last year to

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Speaker 2: six million dollars this year, most of that just will

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Speaker 2: be absolutely inflation. Team, thank you for that. Seven twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Now on the Dunedan hospital scaleback, the government is in

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Speaker 2: trouble on this right. That protest over the weekend was big.

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Speaker 2: Thirty five thousand people are turning up to protest. What's

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Speaker 2: going on is more than a quarter of Dunedin's population.

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Speaker 2: Now to be fair, right, you've got to assume that

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Speaker 2: they didn't just come from Dunedin. They came from all

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Speaker 2: over the Otago region. And that will probably be true

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Speaker 2: because the hospital would service the whole region, so the

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Speaker 2: whole region cares. Even if you encounter include the population

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Speaker 2: of the region, that's fourteen percent of the population that

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Speaker 2: turned up on Saturday. That's still massive. Now, there are

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Speaker 2: very few issues that would drive that kind of frustration

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Speaker 2: get that many people out, but health is absolutely one

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Speaker 2: of them, right, because we want to know that the

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Speaker 2: medical facilities in our area can save our kids' lives,

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Speaker 2: or save our kids, our parents' lives, or even you know,

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Speaker 2: save our own lives. But this is reality. Unfortunately, this

872
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: is and I think that this is something we're going

873
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: to have to come to terms with. We are broke.

874
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: New Zealand cannot afford a three billion dollar hospital, and

875
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: we can't afford three billion dollar fairies, and we can't

876
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: afford to pay the wages of sixty four thousand public

877
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: servants or any number of other things than we think

878
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: that we should have. We just can't have anymore. We

879
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: are running and operating deficit in this country every single year. Well,

880
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: that basically means if you were to compare that to

881
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: your household, that's basically the equivalent of spending more every

882
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: single year in outgoings on your groceries and your rent

883
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: and your power bills, whatever. Then you're actually bringing in. Well,

884
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: how do you make up that shortfall? You chuck it

885
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: on the credit card. Now, that may be sustainable for

886
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 2: a year or two, but it is not sustainable year

887
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: after year after year after year, which is what we're

888
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 2: doing it you're doing at the moment. If you want

889
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 2: to know how broke we are, you just need to

890
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: listen to the Treasury warning that came through last week.

891
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: Dominic Stevens, the chief economist at Treasury, warned at that

892
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: for us to get back to surplus in this country.

893
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: The government will have to cut so much spending so

894
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: fast it would be unprecedented in recent history in New Zealand.

895
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: Our debt is out of control largely and let's be

896
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: honest about it, largely thanks to what Grant and Justined

897
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 2: did during COVID. Treasury has been warning about our debt

898
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: levels they reckon for about the last twenty years, since

899
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: about two thousand and six. Back in two thousand and six,

900
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: they were worried because they thought that we were heading

901
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: for a net crown debt situation of around thirteen percent

902
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: of GDP. We are three times that now. That is

903
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: how much trouble we're in. So we are broke now.

904
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to see projects like a hospital, especially

905
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: scaled back, and I don't want to be sailing on

906
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: tin pop fairies that I'm not sure are going to

907
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: make it to the other side. But you need money

908
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: to buy and build things, and we don't have any money.

909
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: And judging by the size of that protest on Saturday

910
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: and the anger that's being directed at the government at

911
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: the moment, we clearly don't realize that yet.

912
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 17: Ever.

913
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: Do for ce Ellen can HLP me with it?

914
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninet two is the text number. Now listen on

915
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: this aiad. Okay, so I was telling you, We'll play

916
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: you a little bit of the AI ad. This is Breamworth,

917
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: isn't the carpet people. They are the first ones to

918
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: get AI to come and make an ad a TV

919
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: AD in New Zealand.

920
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 13: Here it is a feeling beyond touch colors. You can

921
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 13: feel a mood that lets yours, soothes the soul. It

922
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 13: breathes and leaves you breathless. It's of the earth, yet

923
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 13: out of this world. It's more than the feel. It's

924
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 13: a feeling crafted feels different.

925
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like a like a like a It's

926
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: very safe, isn't It's like a SPA version of an AD.

927
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 2: Isn't like you go to like a spa. If you

928
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: went to a spa to get your massage done and

929
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: that AD was playing, it wouldn't put you out of

930
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 2: the vibe, would it. This is the problem with the AI.

931
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: Now this may be a thing. I don't know. We're

932
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: going to talk to them later in the air. But

933
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: this is the problem with the AI is that the

934
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: AI just doesn't have the pizaz. It's not going to

935
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: chuck a random bugger in there, like a dog falling

936
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: off the back of a ute, just saying as that's

937
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: not gonna happen with AI anyway. We'll get Bremworth to

938
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 2: explain to us how cheap this was, because that could

939
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 2: swing your opinion on it. We all love saving. Maybe

940
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: we need the government to run the whole country. On

941
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: AI Headline's next.

942
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 18: Oh.

943
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: You're trusted source for news and views, Heather Duplicy Allen

944
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: on the my casking breakfast with the Jaguar f base

945
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: cut from a different cloth, News Togs eDV.

946
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: Heather, your argument doesn't hold up when we can afford

947
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: tax cuts of billions of dollars to landlords. Peter said

948
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: that we can't afford the nets from LEZ. That's absolutely

949
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: a fair point, actually, and this is something, This is

950
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: where things get a little bit complicated, right. We are broke,

951
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: yet somehow, when we are broke, we can afford things

952
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: for certain things. We can afford money for certain things

953
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: and not for other things. And in that respect, the

954
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: government is losing the argument. If they really believe it.

955
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: This is and they probably realize this by now, if

956
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: they really believed in those landlord tax cuts, they needed

957
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: to come out and sell them and explain to us

958
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: why they haven't. It's become a problem for them. It's

959
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: an albatross that hangs around their neck and every thing

960
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: will be measured against that. Listen on the rugby at

961
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 2: the weekend. I'm not convinced by Body replacing d maac,

962
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: are you?

963
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: I mean?

964
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: Because d mac does some funny things on the field,

965
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: But then Body was doing some funny things. I mean,

966
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 2: what it like it'll be. I'm not gonna lie. I

967
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 2: was tired, so I sort of like what I was

968
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: forcing myself to watch its are half awake, and then

969
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 2: I thought I saw Body kick the ball sort of

970
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: across the field randomly and it just fell there was nobody.

971
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 6: He did a lot of good stuff too, that lovely

972
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 6: delay pass of his.

973
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 22: I feel like, what's happened What's happened with Boden Barrett.

974
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 22: Everybody loved him initially. Now he seems to be a

975
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 22: polarizing figure. I feel like it's what happened with the Feelers. Yeah,

976
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 22: you know, everybody was into the Feelers and then and

977
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 22: then it became and then it became cool to not

978
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 22: like them, and it's like it's like it's cool to hate.

979
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 6: On Boden Barrett, and I don't really understand why.

980
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: I don't understand why either. Maybe maybe it is the

981
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: same problem as with the Feelers. Lots of greatest hits,

982
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: but too many greatest misses as well, including the one

983
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: at the weekend. It's not to say that Boden's not

984
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 2: a great player. Boden's a great player. Boden's a better

985
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: player than I am, obviously, but I'm not there he is.

986
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 2: But some some weird stuff was happening. So if he's

987
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: doing weird stuff and d Mack is doing weird stuff,

988
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 2: and you have to pick between the two of them,

989
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: then surely you would pick the guy who's still going

990
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: to be there at the next World Cup. Just saying that,

991
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: that seems to me like an obvious thing for Razer

992
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: to do. You're welcome, Raizer, Old charge you later for that. Anyway,

993
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: we'll have a chat to the sports boys, will be

994
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: a thus the commentary box. Obviously after eight o'clock, it's

995
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: twenty one away from a fill me well. If building

996
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: consents drive you nuts for all of the fiddlely rules

997
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: and the things that make absolutely no sense at all,

998
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: there might be some hope coming. The government is considering

999
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: some major reform of the system, potentially seeing sixty seven

1000
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: authorities replaced with you who knows just one maybe and

1001
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: with us Now is the building in construction, Minister Chris Penka,

1002
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: Kris Barding header mate, when you are thinking about this,

1003
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: have you got the old leaky homes front and center?

1004
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 15: Yeah? Absolutely, Look, we're always considering how we can avoid

1005
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 15: a scenario lower the quality. We don't want to do that,

1006
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 15: But the system is so in as at the moment

1007
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 15: you can actually get gains without reducing standards just by

1008
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 15: having things much more joined up and actually much more

1009
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 15: certain and inconsistent, including across those different sixty seven building

1010
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 15: consent authorities that you just mentioned.

1011
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: How can you But here's the thing, how can you

1012
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: have certainty and inconsistency if you've still got humans in

1013
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: different building Yet, Like, even if you've just got two

1014
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 2: humans trying to interpret the same set of rules, there's

1015
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: going to be potentially wacky ideas well.

1016
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 15: That's always going to be true at a level. But

1017
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 15: at the moment, you've got a recipe for a greater

1018
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 15: level of disaster in that regard because you've got all

1019
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 15: these different organizations, each with their own interpretation. Of course,

1020
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 15: they've all got their own risk profile because with joint

1021
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 15: and several liability, in other words, one hundred percent of

1022
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 15: being in the gun for what goes wrong if something

1023
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 15: falls over, then they're all sort of very diligently during

1024
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 15: their own thing and their own little corners of New Zealand.

1025
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 15: So you maximize that. But with this human potential for

1026
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 15: subjective interpretations, the other way you deal with that is

1027
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 15: you actually have mechanism. We can say, well, I can

1028
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 15: cross check a number of builders who say to me,

1029
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 15: I don't want to challenge the council because then I'm

1030
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 15: going to be on some sort of blacklist and that's

1031
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 15: their only board of call. Whereas if you open it

1032
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 15: up a bit more re action vide, the possibility of

1033
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 15: having some common sense applies for some of these ridiculous

1034
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 15: stories that you do hear about.

1035
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: What's your preference at the moment. Do you want to

1036
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: allow these guys to voluntarily get together and decide how

1037
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 2: to voluntarily amalgamate basically, or do you want to force

1038
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: them or do you just want one national body handing

1039
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: out these building consents.

1040
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 15: Well, I'd mostly been thinking on the lines of a

1041
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 15: single national body, although with the caveat that that would

1042
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 15: look like farming it out to a combination of existing ones,

1043
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 15: as in the councilors might want to continue to do

1044
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 15: that work somewhat by the way, some that have the resources,

1045
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 15: especially the smaller towns, but also maybe some private certifiers,

1046
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 15: particularly backed by the accreditation and the insurance that would

1047
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 15: go with that. So that had been my thinking, to

1048
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 15: be honest, but wanting to talk with the sector. But

1049
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 15: recently actually a lot of them have come to me

1050
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 15: with this idea of voluntarily consolidating AUSS within the region.

1051
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 15: So I'm open to that. I don't really care in

1052
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 15: a way. I just want a better system than what

1053
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 15: we've got, which is any of the three options out there.

1054
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 2: I would agree with that. Hey, so listen, we're getting

1055
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: a lot of talk about the fact that there is

1056
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: like there are varying rules, right. Have you got an

1057
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: example of one rule that you get different interpretations of

1058
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: across councils.

1059
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 15: Well, I mean so many different ones. I think that

1060
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 15: the classic one is when you have one council approving

1061
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 15: a set of plans and then another council not doing that,

1062
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 15: so not even you know, turning up with inspections and

1063
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,479
Speaker 15: you can sort of have a subjective opinion about whether

1064
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 15: enough screws or whatever. A consens plan in accordance with

1065
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 15: the building code that applies to the whole country should

1066
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 15: be the same in any given area. And the problem

1067
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 15: with that, of course is that when you've got builders

1068
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 15: who are working at scale because they're doing offsite manufacturing

1069
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 15: in one area and then transporting elsewhere, or you've got

1070
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 15: some prefabricated stuff. All these obviously group bold builders as

1071
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 15: well who are deplaying the trade across New Zealand. They've

1072
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 15: got the economy of scale in the productivity that we

1073
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 15: actually want to get to another one who are finding

1074
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 15: it had us because that dealing with all the different

1075
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 15: councils at the moment. But that's probably a crait case

1076
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 15: that we've got to get past.

1077
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 2: Chris, I really appreciate you time, mate, look after yourself.

1078
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: That's Chris Pink Building and Construction Minister. Heather Bowden is

1079
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: the only superstar left in the All Blacks, the best

1080
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 2: player there. Dmac wasn't good enough to be a starting

1081
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: ab in his prime and still isn't good enough. I

1082
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: feel like maybe you didn't watch the test then and

1083
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 2: see Wallace Atiti because that's a superstar, right What about

1084
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Speaker 2: Will Jordan and another superstar right there? We'll talk about

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Speaker 2: them later on as well. Sixteen away from Ete the my.

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Speaker 1: Casking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 3: At b.

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Speaker 2: Hither. That AI generated ad for Bremworth sounds like the

1089
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: ad of a luxury brothel. I wouldn't know, but I

1090
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: appreciate that you've added that insight. We're going to talk

1091
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,959
Speaker 2: to Bremworth about that very shortly. Right now, it's thirteen away,

1092
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: but they'll be with us, like in about five minutes

1093
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: thirteen away from at the moment Hither. I just got

1094
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: back from Wellington. I had a great weekend there. The

1095
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: city needs a hug and a coat of paint. There

1096
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: are so many nutsers down there. Even the homeless leave

1097
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: their Auckland counterparts for dead. How you out compete on

1098
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 2: the homeless front, I don't really know, but can I

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00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 2: say so? This was supposed to be the big weekend

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Speaker 2: for Wellington and it sounds like they've had an absolute

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00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: ripper of a time down there because they had all

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00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: the rugby crowd and they've had the world of wearable

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00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: arts people. And because I've still got friends who have

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00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: decided to remain in Wellington and subject themselves to ongoing

1105
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: torture by paying extortion at rates while being run by

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00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 2: a pack of clowns. From time to time, I do

1107
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: need to go down and just you know, show my

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00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 2: face and give them some counseling and remind them that

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00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: the rest of the world is still out here anyway.

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00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: So I decided I'd book myself down go to Wellington

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00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: next weekend just you know, hello, just a little heidy

1112
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: high completely booked out. It is impossible to get a room.

1113
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: You're basically going to pay sort of like five star

1114
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: hotel rates in Wellington at the moment for the motel quality.

1115
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: So Welling and is absolutely on a rip, and I'm

1116
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: very very pleased for them. They absolutely need it. Listen

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00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: on the building consent, I think Chris Pink is onto

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00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: something here with these building consents and the authorities. But

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00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: I suspect that I just am not entirely sure if

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00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: the solution here is the interpretation of the rules or

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00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: the rules themselves need to be clarified. And I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you why, because when I was living in Wellington, I

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Speaker 2: decided to renovate a house because I had nothing better

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Speaker 2: to do with my time at that stage. Obviously didn't

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Speaker 2: have any children, otherwise that wouldn't even be a consideration.

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Speaker 2: And I decided to renovate this house. And one of

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00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: the stipulations from the local building authority being the pack

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Speaker 2: of clowns Wellington City Council, was that I needed to

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00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: have safety glass in the bathroom. Now, safety glass in

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00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 2: the bathroom is something that is required by law, but

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00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: this is where the interpretation thing comes in, I think,

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00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: because the point of safety glass is that if you

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Speaker 2: slip over in a puddle and you fall through the window,

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00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: the safety glass is supposed to shatter, kind of like

1135
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: a windscreen in the card, you know what I mean.

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00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: So this breaks up into little jewel like chunks rather

1137
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: than sharps that then sort of like scrape year to

1138
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: death as you fall out the window. Here's the problem.

1139
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: The window was above the bath so in order, and

1140
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: it was high, and it was small. So in order

1141
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: to be able to fall out that window and tear

1142
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: yourself to shreds, you'd sort of have to do quite

1143
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: like quite an amazing feat of falling upwards over the bath.

1144
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 22: What if you had like a really tall guest who

1145
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 22: was an extravagant tooth flosser, you know, and going backwards

1146
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 22: and forward knocks, and a fist goes through the windows.

1147
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 2: And extraordinarily long arms that reach across the gigantic bath.

1148
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: These are all possible. So I feel like this is

1149
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: the mental contution that somebody in Wellington City Council obviously

1150
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: didn't win Yate safety glass six thousand dollars by the

1151
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: way for safety glass. Thank god. Somebody said go down

1152
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: the road to blah blah shop and buy the sticker

1153
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: thing that you still just put a sticker over the

1154
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 2: glass for twenty bucks and it basically does exactly the

1155
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: same thing. To this day, I don't know whether it

1156
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 2: was the Wellington City Council people who were like, hmm,

1157
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 2: and see the flosser you might need to get in

1158
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: safe to glo.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you look like a person who knows a lot

1160
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 6: of tall people who fluss.

1161
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 2: Could have been that could have been the bad rules.

1162
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: Don't know which of the two it is. I hope

1163
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: that Chris Pink has looked into it, because I just

1164
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: am not entirely sure. If we take the numpties out

1165
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: of the situation, whether we don't just create more situations

1166
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: for numpties to be able to ruin for us if

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00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, heither Thank god, someone you

1168
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 2: me is shouting out that we're broke. The general population

1169
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 2: has not realized this yet. We are broke. We are broke,

1170
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Speaker 2: and I will repeat that as many times as possible.

1171
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 2: We are very, very very broke at the moment. Ten

1172
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: away from eight Ever Ellen on.

1173
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: The My Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Dogs NB.

1174
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 2: Heather Wellington City Council would say, well, what if Hamishkur

1175
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: was in your bath? Well that would be that would

1176
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: be a scandal here that you're forgetting people who have

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00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: trampolines in their bath. Loll It's the new big thing, Chris,

1178
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: thank you for that. I'm always looking forward to new trends.

1179
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: It sticks away from eight now. Two things are kiwis

1180
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: love right, wool and a good ad on the Telly

1181
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: to have a chat about now. To get wool, you

1182
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: need the sheep. To get ads, you need humans, but

1183
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 2: maybe you don't anymore. Bremworth's created What It Reckons is

1184
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: the country's first TV commercial using AI chief brand and

1185
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: product officer. Rachelle Flint is with us.

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00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 3: Now.

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00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 23: Hey Rachelle, good morning, Thank you for having us.

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00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks very much.

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Speaker 23: You've seen the ad, Yes, I have for the first

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00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 23: time last night.

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Speaker 2: Give it to me out of ten?

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00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 23: Well, I'd obviously give it a ten out of ten.

1193
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 2: Why Why?

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00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 23: Because I guess it's it's a really innovative way to

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00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 23: showcase and elevate the wool industry, I guess. And wall

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00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 23: as a fiber.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you put it, when you put this into AI,

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00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 2: which by the way, is very clever, put this into

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Speaker 2: AI and you're like, AI, please make me a TV

1200
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: commercial about wool? Does it just front load that thing

1201
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: with lots of sheep?

1202
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 23: No, not necessarily, you know. And when we creating this

1203
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 23: TVC we were sort of entering into uncharited or uncharted territory,

1204
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 23: so we definitely did hit a few bumps in the road.

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00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: Michelle, What did it give you?

1206
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 23: Well, for example, you cannot make minor changes to certain

1207
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 23: scenes as you're creating the assets, so we had to

1208
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 23: obviously come up with solutions as we went along, like

1209
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 23: what kind of.

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00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: Changes were you made? Were like, I need more sheep

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00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: in this shot, and that they couldn't do it.

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00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 23: No, we don't actually feature any sheep in our TVC.

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00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 23: It's it's really an abstract and more sort of sensory

1214
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 23: way too, an interesting I guess way to showcase will

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00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 23: as a fiber because it's just so beautiful, and we

1216
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 23: think that this TVC has managed to communicate that.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing we've got lots of beautiful landscape shots of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand.

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00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 23: We've certainly got a couple yes in the TVC.

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00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: How much cheaper do you reckon this was?

1221
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Speaker 4: To me? Then?

1222
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: If you'd actually had real humans.

1223
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 23: Working on it, we think it would have cost us

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Speaker 23: or sorry, reduced our spend by about sixty percent. And

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00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 23: I guess that sixty percent is very meaningful to small companies.

1226
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 23: And you know, it wouldn't if we hadn't if AI

1227
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 23: wasn't available to us, we wouldn't have had the budgets to.

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00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 19: Be able to go on to TV.

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00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 23: Cost of the video would have been too much for us,

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00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 23: just as our media.

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00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 2: Spe it's prohibitive. A this may be the way of

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00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: the future, mightened it because basically it's becoming so hard

1233
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: to get, you know, to actually afford these ads, and

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00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: so a few people watch them nowadays. On the tally, Rachelle,

1235
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: thank you very much, appreciate it. Rachelle Flint Bream with

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00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: chief brand and product Officer here the boat and Barratt

1237
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 2: is a great player, but Dmac creates so much more

1238
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: and a better passer unless recent co overrun the passes

1239
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: or it'sxplaming somebody else for that, isn't it? So when

1240
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 2: he throws it into midair and then nobody's there, it's

1241
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: because Severy Reese's overrun it. I'm just not convinced on

1242
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: either of these lads. I feel like I want to

1243
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what I want from them in your carter,

1244
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: said an option Richie Waringer. Anyway, we'll talk to the

1245
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: commentary boys next. News talks Heed b.

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Speaker 6: Everybody had.

1247
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: Setting the news of Jedder and digging into the issues

1248
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: here the DUDI see Ellen on the mic asking Breakfast

1249
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial

1250
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: and rural news talks head b J s R.

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Speaker 22: It is no wrong, No one comes PA fans heavy,

1252
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 22: You're blacks when Sampaign's one hundred.

1253
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 7: It's fine.

1254
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 6: On home soil, TJ.

1255
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 22: Panaris final on home soil thirty three thirteen over the Wallabies.

1256
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 12: It's my stadium.

1257
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: It's good for the parts and then for the Caton mckennessey,

1258
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: South Africa's Minister of Sports, Arts and Culture.

1259
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 3: Delight to Chamon have come to Auckland.

1260
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 6: And beaten the silver fans and the opening.

1261
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: Party Jefferson Stripey mentioned by one.

1262
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 3: Goal fifty nine fifty eight.

1263
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 12: Not this time, lun.

1264
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 24: Sport.

1265
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: The Monday morning commentary Box on the Mike Husking Breakfast

1266
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance supporting Kiwi businesses with asset and equipment finance.

1267
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 2: Right well, the commentary boxing with us today. I've got

1268
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 2: Andrew Saville and Guy have Elt lads.

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01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 12: Hello, how are you?

1270
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 2: I am very well, although I've already been told I

1271
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: need to stick to book reviews. What do girls know

1272
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: about rugby? Anyway? Not a lot, is it to now?

1273
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: Hey?

1274
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 4: Well, at least you at least you're not up to

1275
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 4: what day ninety seven of annually for the year. I

1276
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 4: think that's what Mike must be clocking by now.

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Speaker 20: Yeah.

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01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 2: I think we're basically working from home at the stage,

1279
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: aren't we just like a Wellington.

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Speaker 23: Say?

1281
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 2: Well, maybe you could, given I don't know anything about

1282
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. Maybe you can help me out here.

1283
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: Were you convinced by body in the number ten Jersy?

1284
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 12: No, I've heard you before and I totally agree. I

1285
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 12: don't think he was entirely convincing. I don't think the

1286
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 12: team was entirely convincing. I listened to a bit of

1287
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 12: Got Back yesterday on Jason Show and tended to disagree

1288
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 12: with a number of the callers. Yes, they beat the

1289
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 12: Wallabies by twenty points, but this All Black team should

1290
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 12: be putting twenty thirty points on the Wallabies every day

1291
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 12: of the week. This is not a great Wallabies team.

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Speaker 15: Look.

1293
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 12: I think it's been very well coached by Joe Schmidt

1294
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 12: and Mike Krohn, and they did well on patches on

1295
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,959
Speaker 12: Saturday night again, but I still think this All Black

1296
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 12: side is spluttering along compared to what they're capable of.

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Speaker 12: The big big tests again will come against Ireland, England,

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Speaker 12: France up north. I just still think there's disjointedness in

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Speaker 12: certain areas of the game and I would still like

1300
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 12: to see Amy McKenzie back at ten for those big

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Speaker 12: games up north.

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Speaker 15: Why.

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Speaker 12: I just think he adds a little bit extra heats

1304
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 12: will make the odd mistake. But I just think when

1305
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Speaker 12: you're going to play against those teams up Norse, you've

1306
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Speaker 12: got to throw something different at them. And Damien McKenzie

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Speaker 12: cat yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, the thing is, guy I heard. The best argument

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Speaker 2: I heard for DMAC was from Nicky Styris on Friday

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Speaker 2: who said to me, you've got two who are pretty

1311
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Speaker 2: much and this is body and DMAK pretty much same

1312
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 2: same level pegging. But one of them is going to

1313
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Speaker 2: be there for the Rugby World Cup as the new

1314
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: blood and the other one isn't. So that that gives you.

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Speaker 2: That gives them the advantage, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I wouldn't be surprised if Boden Barrett was still

1317
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Speaker 4: here around Rugby.

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Speaker 15: World Cup time.

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Speaker 4: I think what they need to do is settile on

1320
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Speaker 4: whoever it's going to be at ten and just stick

1321
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 4: to that for a long period of time instead of

1322
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 4: chopping and changing all the time. And then they also

1323
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 4: need to realize that and I'm talking players and coaches here,

1324
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 4: but if you're coming off the bench in this day

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Speaker 4: and age, you still have a very important part to

1326
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 4: play in a game of rugby. The bench has never

1327
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 4: been more important in rugby than it is now, yes,

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01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 4: you've got a starting fifteen, but in this day and age,

1329
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 4: it takes twenty three to win a game of rugby. Like,

1330
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 4: there's so many tactical decisions around when to bring players on.

1331
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 4: Look at how the South Africans do it. For example,

1332
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,439
Speaker 4: They've got what they call the bomb squad or whatever

1333
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 4: has calls the bomb squad, and when they generally bring

1334
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 4: them on, they tend to blow teams away. So I

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01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 4: think people just and maybe the All Blacks themselves, just

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01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 4: need to start realizing that it's not necessarily just those

1337
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 4: fifteen players that start the game. There's a massive amount

1338
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 4: of importance on bringing players on. And then we've seen

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01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 4: the impact that Boden Barratt can have off the bench,

1340
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 4: and I think Damien McKenzie can do the same thing

1341
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, Wallace, a Titi. What can we say

1343
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: about this guy that would do justice to how awesome

1344
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: he is.

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Speaker 12: I think he's been outstanding. Yeah, he impressed in Super rugby,

1346
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 12: but let's not forget at the start of the year

1347
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 12: he was a wider training group player with the Chiefs.

1348
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 12: He played for the Blues under twenties. He slipped through

1349
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 12: their net which happens often, but for him to play

1350
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 12: against of Africa, for him to play in the big

1351
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 12: tests of the year and totally not look out of place,

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01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 12: I think it's been one of the big positives so

1353
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 12: far of Scott Robertson's reign. I think next year you'll

1354
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 12: see him go to Party to seven and someone like

1355
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 12: an Ethan pack At at blindside. But the big positive

1356
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 12: for me in Scott Robertson's reign is someone finally putting

1357
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 12: Will Jordan at fullback. He was absolutely terrific again on

1358
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 12: Saturday night and he was last weekend as well. He's

1359
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 12: one of the better players man.

1360
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 8: He is.

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01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 4: That's where he belongs and it's been a shame I

1362
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 4: think that that he hasn't been there for so long

1363
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 4: and now we're finally seeing just how good he is.

1364
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 12: But let's not forget an Sydney guy. He was picked

1365
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 12: on the right wing. Only Barrett's illness, true slow who

1366
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 12: caught them back to fullback. They need to They need

1367
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 12: to come up with the plan where they stick with

1368
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 12: players in the right positions or a long term position

1369
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 12: and stick with it.

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01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you're probably right. Listen, I want

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01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 2: to talk about the Craker, but we'll have to do

1372
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 2: it after the break. Hang on Tight thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

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Speaker 1: By News Talks.

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Speaker 2: I'd be right back with the commentary Box sixteen past.

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01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 2: A guy, have Alge Andrew seventh guy. I tell you what,

1377
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: I'm stoked for Liam Lawson and he deserves a break.

1378
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 2: But what worries me is that Red Bull sounds like

1379
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 2: a mess.

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01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 4: It sounds like a complete mess, doesn't it. I mean

1381
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 4: a year and a half, two years ago, you would

1382
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 4: have said that this was just a hands down outstanding

1383
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 4: result for him to get into, and it still is.

1384
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 4: I mean, he's in the F one and he's got

1385
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 4: a seat and all that sort of stuff. But you're

1386
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 4: dead right, like, look at the state of it, all

1387
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 4: these rumors about MAXI Stepan wanting out and wanting to

1388
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 4: go somewhere else, them taking so damn long to figure

1389
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 4: out what they wanted to do next year. You've got

1390
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 4: Christian Horner, who is seemingly not a great human being

1391
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 4: away from away from the F one scene, and you know, yeah,

1392
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 4: you're right, it just seems like a place that's in

1393
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 4: a little bit of a mess at the moment. They

1394
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 4: can't seem to win a race right now. Have he

1395
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 4: dominated for the last few years. Look, I still think

1396
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 4: there is. It's just an outstanding achievement and result for

1397
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 4: Liam Lawson. And look, yes they're a mess, but they

1398
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 4: are still a very very good team with huge resources

1399
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 4: as well, so I think it can only be positive

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01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 4: for him.

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01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 20: There wasn't There was.

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01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 12: An expectation during the week that not only would he

1403
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 12: be confirmed for the last six events, but he'd also

1404
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 12: be confirmed in the art B team seat for next year.

1405
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 12: They didn't stretch that out the details that were released.

1406
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,439
Speaker 12: They didn't stretch that out to that because I think,

1407
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 12: and there is a strong theory going around that if

1408
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 12: Sergio Perez continues to disappoint in that top red Bull team,

1409
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 12: Liam could well slot into the seat beside Maxwellstapam in

1410
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 12: that top red bull team next year.

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01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: Sav Why are they holding off on announcing it?

1412
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 19: What's up?

1413
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 7: Like?

1414
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 4: What is going on?

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01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,959
Speaker 12: That's just well, that's just Formula one to a degree.

1416
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 12: It's very cutthroat. They can and Leam's well aware of that,

1417
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 12: is that if he doesn't even if he doesn't perform

1418
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 12: over those six events, and I think he will. But

1419
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 12: if he doesn't dog eat dog world of if white,

1420
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 12: he could be go out the back door. That's that's

1421
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 12: how they That's how these teams operate. Do you realize

1422
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 12: that he's only just making a six figure salary only

1423
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 12: just and the first time he's been paid is this year?

1424
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 2: How much is he on?

1425
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 12: My understanding is it's not much over one hundred grand?

1426
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 12: What wow?

1427
01:07:58,320 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 24: Ye?

1428
01:07:58,640 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: How is he not being paid?

1429
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 12: And well Red Bull put money into his Formula three

1430
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 12: and Formula two campaigns, right, but he survives on corporate

1431
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 12: sponsors out of n Z and also private investors that

1432
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 12: have invested in him for the last eighteen years.

1433
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 2: These guys even lease.

1434
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 12: Now, well, that's the way it is. Unless unless you've

1435
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 12: got a rich daddy or rich mummy, or you have

1436
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 12: massive mega million sponsorship like Perezas out of Mexico that

1437
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 12: he brings to the Red Bull team, you live hand

1438
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 12: to mouth. It's that that's how he fin operates. Until

1439
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 12: you become a Hamilton or of a staff at thirty

1440
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 12: forty million year plus, these guys are on the pretty

1441
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 12: much on the breadline. He has to pay for his

1442
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 12: own insurances, medical costs for physical trainer's diet to show

1443
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 12: he looked at because he's.

1444
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 2: Got really great sunglasses all the time.

1445
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 12: I thought that, no good ideal out of that.

1446
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 3: Kid.

1447
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 12: Look, here's a guy who's watched by one hundred million

1448
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 12: people upcoming in these races, the multi billion dollar circus,

1449
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 12: and he earns less than a base super rugby player.

1450
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 2: You know, that's disgraceful. They should be ashamed of themselves.

1451
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Speaker 12: I'm not a disgraceful So it's a factive life and

1452
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 12: if one this is our it operates is area.

1453
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just I'm feeling disgraced on a human level,

1454
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 2: sav you know, But yeah, on a sports level, I get.

1455
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm on board with it. You know what else is

1456
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 2: disgracing me?

1457
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 23: Though?

1458
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 2: Guys eighty eight and what happened, I.

1459
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 4: Can only guess. Look, this has been coming for a

1460
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 4: while now. This is a black Cat's team. I've been

1461
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 4: saying it for the last couple of years. They're about

1462
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 4: to go through I think, a pretty rough period in

1463
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 4: terms of the Test cricket, and we're starting to see

1464
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 4: it right now. They've got some good players and they've

1465
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 4: got you know, Cain Williamson still which is pretty important.

1466
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 4: But they don't have a great team like they did

1467
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 4: there in probably the you know, from twenty fifteen onwards.

1468
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 4: For about five or six years or so, they've lost

1469
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 4: a few to retirement and that sort of thing. And yeah,

1470
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 4: I think it's just going to be a struggle for

1471
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 4: this Black Cats team for a while and this is

1472
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 4: the this time we're seeing it. I think some of

1473
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 4: the selections have been a bit strange. I think, why

1474
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,560
Speaker 4: is Matt Henry not in the team? He's probably the

1475
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 4: best Test bowler we've got at the moment and he

1476
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 4: doesn't seem to be able to fit anywhere inside Gary

1477
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 4: Steed's team. I think there needs to start being some

1478
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 4: pressure put on Gary Steed to be honest.

1479
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 12: The results.

1480
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 4: I think that's four tests losses in a row now

1481
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 4: for this Black Cats team. Yeah, it's really not looking

1482
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 4: good and I don't have hope that it's going to

1483
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 4: get better anytime soon. Let's not forget. Yes it is

1484
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 4: in Trilanka, but this is not a great Trilankan cricket

1485
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 4: team that they're playing right now.

1486
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 2: No, well, jeez, that makes it even worse. Sam, did

1487
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 2: you watch the AFL.

1488
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 12: Yeah I did a little bit. Yeah, Yeah, I don't

1489
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 12: know why we need a Katy Perry. Yeah, I'd rather

1490
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 12: see Cold Chisel or I don't know. They've spent four

1491
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 12: or five million on Katy Perry. I think they're trying.

1492
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 12: They're trying to make it the Super.

1493
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 4: Bowl halftime kind of thing.

1494
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 12: They are, But you know, it's have you a hard crowd.

1495
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 12: They didn't even wouldn't even know who she is exactly.

1496
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's the wrong artist for the wrong crowd.

1497
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 2: It was bizarre, But anyway, what can you do that

1498
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 2: spent the money on that? Guys, It's wonderful to talk

1499
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 2: to you. Thank you so much. Enjoy the rest of

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Speaker 2: for a bit of a treat because the cabin is

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Speaker 2: all about quality. It's got top notch materials, plenty of storage,

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Speaker 2: and if you enjoy a quiet drive, the active noise

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Speaker 2: cancelation ensures a serene experience. Tech enthusiasts will appreciate the

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Speaker 2: wireless Apple Car Play and the Android Auto, which keeps

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Speaker 2: you connected absolutely effortlessly. When it comes to handling, the

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Speaker 2: f Pace doesn't disappoint. It's lightweight aluminium build, near perfect

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Speaker 2: weight distribution, and sophisticated suspension offer a superb ride. The

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Speaker 2: suv isn't just a pretty face, by the way, It's

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Speaker 2: got credentials. It snagged over seventy global awards, including World

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Speaker 2: Car of the Year and Worldcar Design of the Year.

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Speaker 2: Plus the hybrid model comes with DC fast Charging for

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Speaker 2: added convenience. Now there's limited availability because jagu is shifting

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Speaker 2: to a new lineup of electrified vehicles, so the f

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Speaker 2: Pace stands out as Jaguar's ultimate practical sports car.

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Speaker 3: And you do not want to miss it ever due

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Speaker 3: for cel morning weather.

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Speaker 2: Y wasn't the netbill covered in the commentary box. It's

1530
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 2: the top international sport. No, that's fair enough, which is

1531
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: basically ran out of time. But in the netball obviously

1532
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: lost to England. It was really tope with something like

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Speaker 2: eighty nine eighty eight or something like that, nine fifty eight. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: you get. The point was about a point that separated

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Speaker 2: the two squads. I had a chat to Jenny. This

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Speaker 2: is one of the beautiful things about working at the

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01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 2: other end of the days. You get to see all

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01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: these random people you forgot you work with. Jenny was

1539
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 2: called Jenny random, completely random to me, completely random. All

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01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: kinds of random things are happening to me. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that you worked here, still didn't even

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01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 2: know didn't even know that you worked here in some cases,

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01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,560
Speaker 2: Nice to see you anyway. So I said to you,

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01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 2: because Genny knows everything about netball, I said, well, what happened?

1545
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 2: Why I thought we sucked at netball? Why are we

1546
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 2: not sucking anymore? She says Grays and Wicker. Basically, she's back,

1547
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 2: she knows what she's doing, and so we won you

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Speaker 2: know the other thing we didn't do in the sports

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01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 2: commentary box, by the way, and it feels I feel

1550
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Speaker 2: like what I've neglected here as women Katie Perry, because

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01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 2: we should have got onto that in greater detail. If

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 2: you haven't seen it, you need to go. It's dressed

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01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 2: up like a robot for the show, didn't she And

1554
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 2: then she had all these girls running around on the

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Speaker 2: field with sort of these inflatable things you can get

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Speaker 2: from Kmart for about two dollars silver disc things. One

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01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: of them blew down because it's from Kmart, so that

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01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 2: was going to happen, so running around with one of

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Speaker 2: them busted. And then she did nine songs, not just

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Speaker 2: the five we were expecting. So the AFL got its

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01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,839
Speaker 2: money's worth five million bucks buys in nine songs. Bargain

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Speaker 2: they wanted the rolling Stones by the way, who said

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Speaker 2: no even turned them down for twenty million bucks.

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Speaker 15: There you go.

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Speaker 2: News is next.

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Speaker 3: The breakfast show.

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Speaker 1: You can try us Heather du for Cellen on the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life Your

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Speaker 1: Way News togsa'd be right.

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Speaker 2: If you haven't seen what debbing Ado were Packer is

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Speaker 2: in the news for this week, and I'm gonna run

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Speaker 2: you through that because of course it's going to wind

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Speaker 2: you up, because Debbie generally winds people up, doesn't she.

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Speaker 2: Hither we wanted to add a two bedroom light timber

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Speaker 2: frame building next to our existing four bedroom houses. Is

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01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: going back to the building consents. We put a consent

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Speaker 2: into the council and then got asked to do a

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01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,959
Speaker 2: contaminated site report, and then got asked to do engineering

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Speaker 2: design piles, and then got asked for a liqui faction

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Speaker 2: report and a geological analysis. In all of this to

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Speaker 2: eighty months, and then we were told that we can't

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Speaker 2: build there because we need a resource consent in our

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01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 2: existing house has been there seventy years, so obviously shouldn't

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Speaker 2: have been built there seventy years. Managed to hold up.

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Speaker 2: Can't build there now, though, can you?

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Speaker 1: Twenty two away from nine International Correspondence with ends and

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Speaker 2: Posit correspondent Steve Prices that morning, Steve, very good morning

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Speaker 2: to you have that right. The protests, the pro Humas

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01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: and pro Lebanon protests, how big were they?

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Speaker 20: That would be the biggest that we've seen for months

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Speaker 20: and there are some disturbing images there yesterday. I'm talking

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Speaker 20: about Sydney and Melbourne. Both cities have a very large

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Speaker 20: Lebanese population, migrants from Lebanon in particular, and the rallies

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01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 20: we've been used to probably numbering one hundreds each Saturday Sunday,

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Speaker 20: but this was more.

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Speaker 12: In the thousand.

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Speaker 20: But it has forced Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke, a

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Speaker 20: senior minister obviously in the Albanezi government, to come out

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Speaker 20: and say, look, I'll consider canceling the visas of anyone

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Speaker 20: who sites discord in Australia. Now, Burke holds a seat

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01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 20: that has a very large Muslim population and he's been

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01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 20: very reluctant to go public on his views on whether

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01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 20: these protests should take place or not. So why are

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Speaker 20: we so disturbed about this given that these protests happen

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Speaker 20: just about every weekend. Well, when you see the images

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Speaker 20: of masked men carrying framed photographs of the Hezbalah leader

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01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 20: Athan Israela who obviously was taken out in that bomb

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01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 20: attack in southern Lebanon over the last few days, you

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01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 20: really think to yourself, am I still in Australia I mean,

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01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 20: why masked men or masked anybody are allowed to march

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01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 20: in protests through the streets of Australia's beyond me anyway.

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01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 20: But they were chanting and filmed and there is video

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Speaker 20: of this. You can look it up on the Australian

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Speaker 20: Newspaper's website. They were chanting labak yazraela. That's in Arabic,

1616
01:16:55,720 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 20: which translate to at your service Nasraela or EARI. I

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01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 20: think a lot of Australians in general, when you look

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Speaker 20: at those images today and you watch that video and

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01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 20: you see it recorded on TV news, that would say

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Speaker 20: to themselves, why are these pro Israeli people in Australia

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01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 20: and what have we done? I mean, who's come here?

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Speaker 20: It is already a major concern about what visas were

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Speaker 20: issued and what visas weren't after the October seven attacks

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Speaker 20: and obviously the Israeli reaction in Palestine in Gaza. But

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Speaker 20: I think a lot of Australians will be shaking their

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Speaker 20: heads today and saying, what the hell's going on?

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Speaker 2: What's it going to take to get a visa canceled?

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Speaker 2: How bad does the behavior have to be?

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Speaker 20: Well, we do have legislation in place federal legislation in

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Speaker 20: place about incitingvitons. It's a very loose piece of legislation,

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Speaker 20: and this government in particular sense reluctant to use it,

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01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 20: but you could use it. I mean, why is it

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Speaker 20: legal to walk down a street holding a photograph of

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Speaker 20: a dead terrorist leader wearing a mask? I mean, I

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Speaker 20: just don't get that. When you can't walk into a

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Speaker 20: bank wearing a motorcycle helmet, why are you allowed to

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01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 20: be masked in a protest? It makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: Better few people asking that question, Hey, what do you

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01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 2: make of that news? Pop?

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Speaker 20: Well, it tells me that the Labor government is in trouble,

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01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 20: and that obviously clearly, and Mike and I have this

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01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 20: conversation all the time. The election will not now be

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01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 20: this year, clearly, It's going to be as late as

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01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 20: possible next year, which is probably going to mean May.

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01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 20: But it looks like older voters, those between fifty to

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01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 20: sixty four, have turned swiftly against Labor because of cost

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01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 20: of living. I mean the vote in New South Wales

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01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 20: now has the primary vote of Labor down to thirty percent.

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Speaker 20: That would be an election losing number. The Coalition is

1650
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 20: now starting to take a lead in WA as well,

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01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 20: so we've got WA in New South Wales and Queensland

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01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 20: that would be enough seats for the coalition to win. Obviously,

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01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 20: in Victoria, Labor it is still but it's those front

1654
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 20: two party preferred. It's still fifty to fifty. But the

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01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 20: government in particular would be most concerned about the fact

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01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 20: that at fifty to sixty four year olds are turning

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01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 20: against Labor, and you've got to put that down principally

1658
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 20: the cost of living and people still have some real

1659
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 20: concerns about the pace at which green energy transition is happening.

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Speaker 20: So Anthony Albanezi himself as a leader, his performance is

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01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 20: still very poor and his leadership at the moment doesn't

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01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 20: look great. So I'd say in summary that Labour would

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01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 20: now hope that they're going to get probably stumble towards Christmas,

1664
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,520
Speaker 20: get through the Christmas holiday period, make some big announcements

1665
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 20: in the new year. Hopefully they're an inch straight cut

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01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 20: and they might be able to struggle their way to

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Speaker 20: a narrow election victory sometime in main next year.

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Speaker 2: Steve, what do you reckon? I mean, if alban is

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01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 2: at last, I saw albanize he's still leading Dutton in

1670
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 2: preferred prime minister and if he's still leading Dutton, does

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01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 2: that not kind of assist Labor or is it possible,

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01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 2: Is it possible that Dutton wins even though he's unpoppued.

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01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 20: Yeah, the latter, I think is a great assessment, because

1674
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 20: in our system, you just got to win seats. Yeah,

1675
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 20: I mean, it's not a presidential contest. It's a matter

1676
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 20: of you've got to pick up enough seats to get

1677
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 20: a majority in the House of Representatives. My great fear

1678
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 20: as always been the possibility of a minority government. We

1679
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 20: hope that doesn't happen. But if you look at the

1680
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 20: seats and in the states where the swing is on,

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01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 20: you can make an argument, a reasonably good argument. Right

1682
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 20: now the coalition is sitting where they could possibly sneak

1683
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 20: over the line or they could force Labor into minority government.

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01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 2: Interesting, Steve, thank you so much for chatting us through

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01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 2: that stuff that Steve price Ossie corresponds, Listen, if you're

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01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 2: feeling ripped off by the price of the Cold Play

1688
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 2: tickets in Auckland, and if you paid full price at

1689
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 2: the height of the dynamic price, and you may well

1690
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 2: be feeling ripped off because I last I might check

1691
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 2: it is about five hundred and fifty bucks age. Get

1692
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: a load of this. This will make you feel better.

1693
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 2: The tickets in India, the cold Play tickets are going

1694
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 2: for as much as nine hundred thousand, which is about

1695
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 2: seventeen thousand New Zealand dollars each of them. Now, this

1696
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 2: is not the official sale website. This is a resale website.

1697
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 2: But the problem is the things sold out apparently within

1698
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 2: minutes on the official ticketing platform, but before they even

1699
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 2: sold out, they'd popped up on the resale website, which

1700
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 2: is making a lot of people wonder if the official

1701
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 2: guys are in cohoots with the resailing guys. But yeah,

1702
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 2: seventeen thousand. I don't know how much you love Coplay,

1703
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 2: but nobody's gonna love Coldplay and have to pay seventeen

1704
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 2: thousand dollars sixteen away from nine The.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By

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Speaker 1: News Talks at.

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Speaker 2: Be Heather enjoy hearing you in the morning. Just worried

1708
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 2: about who's covering you afternoon show? Can you share it here?

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01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 2: From philipp It's not a secret, it's Jack. I think

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01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 2: it's Jack jeez. If it's not Jack, then I'm just

1711
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: making stories up. And that's entirely possible, because I think

1712
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 2: there is entirely possible. I'm still in some sort of

1713
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 2: physical shock.

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Speaker 6: We can't confirm that as jack'tis Jack. Yeah, you didn't

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01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 6: have it to say that. Okay, thank it's a real thing,

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01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 6: in which case, which brings me right now.

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Speaker 2: This is the next thing. Okay, So Jack, the minute

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01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 2: he starts at four o'clock, what you need to do

1719
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 2: is just start bombarding him with capital gains texts because

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01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 2: I don't know if you recall, but Wednesday last week,

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01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 2: I haven't forgotten this Jack. Jack tried to lead us

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01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 2: astray with some weird o, weird mathematics that he was

1723
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 2: doing about how capital gains tax is awesome and it's

1724
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 2: not gonna it's not gonna rip you off, and you're

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01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 2: gonna be able to sell your house for a million

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01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 2: bucks and buy another house for a million bucks. And

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01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 2: he has apologized to me for that snap who on text,

1728
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 2: but he hasn't apologized to you. And I feel like

1729
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 2: you should just railroad him into doing that this afternoon.

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01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 6: Just get him started, like warmmut are you're trying to

1731
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 6: start a breakfast. There hasn't been drive beef on the station.

1732
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 2: I listened to Mike every single day hoping that he's

1733
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 2: going to rip me one, but it never happens, and

1734
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 2: I suspect it's because he's too busy to listen to me. So,

1735
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 2: but I am not too busy to start a war.

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01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 22: There's a lot of sky on News Australia to be watched,

1737
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 22: you know, on a weekday afternoon while he's sitting on

1738
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 22: a stationary bike.

1739
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:04,560
Speaker 2: Be honest with you, I'm quite looking forward to this

1740
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 2: little life of leisure that he gets. Unfortunately at school holiday,

1741
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 2: so that will not happen for me. Listen, Debbi Nado,

1742
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 2: We're pack. I said, I'm going to tell you about this, okay,

1743
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 2: So Debbie turns out Debbie has been Debbie loves a plane.

1744
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: If Debbie says to you I care about the climate,

1745
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: she doesn't. She loves jumping on the plane. She spent

1746
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 2: thirty nine thousand dollars on flights in three months. That

1747
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 2: is thirteen thousand dollars a month. That is in a week.

1748
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 2: What's that fourth four thousand, three thousand dollars. I did

1749
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 2: New Zealand school math, so I don't really know. Three

1750
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 2: to four thousand dollars a week on flights. How in

1751
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 2: hell's name are you racking up that kind of a bill?

1752
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 2: And girl, have you got your gold? Elie backed up

1753
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 2: at the Corus Club for like a decade, because with

1754
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 2: that kind of flying you need to anyway higher than

1755
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 2: any other MP. This excludes ministers by the way, we

1756
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 2: just look at the kind of b grade MP's right,

1757
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 2: it's not the ministers. The next highest is Willie Jackson,

1758
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 2: who racked up twenty eight thousand in three months, which

1759
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 2: is not bad, but it did include a trip to

1760
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 2: London and back again for that Oxford debate. She spent

1761
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 2: sixty three percent more. It's higher, just to give you

1762
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 2: some context, higher than the total claimed by all of

1763
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 2: Act's MPs who are not ministers. Five of them only

1764
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 2: managed to bring in thirty six thousand dollars in plane tickets.

1765
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 2: Debbie did more than that. Where did Debbie go? No,

1766
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 2: Debbie's not telling you, and Parliamentary Services don't have to

1767
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 2: tell you. Parliamentary Services are not subject to the Official

1768
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 2: Information Act. Jerry doesn't have to tell you. Jerry is

1769
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 2: also not subject to the Official Information Act. So Debbie

1770
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,560
Speaker 2: has to tell us, or the Maldi party has to

1771
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 2: tell us if you go to space, well quite possibly.

1772
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 2: In fact, if she does decide to go to space,

1773
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:46,600
Speaker 2: and Debbie, that's not a bad idea. They've got some

1774
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 2: room up there with the Boeing guys who'd be up

1775
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 2: there for a while, which will suit us just fine.

1776
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,560
Speaker 2: You could go to her Instagram account find out she

1777
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 2: went to Hawaii. She was attending the Protecting Oceania activist summit,

1778
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 2: but also was serving surfing. That's the extent of what

1779
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 2: we know. And I reckon that. I reckon this calls

1780
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 2: for a bit of transparency, don't you. Because if Debbie,

1781
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 2: I mean Debbie only has to go from Wellington to Wanganui, right,

1782
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 2: that's her local spot. It's not you don't even need

1783
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 2: to fly it. You just you could drive it if

1784
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 2: you wanted to care for the climate. But Debbie is

1785
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 2: obviously flying it and flying everything else as well. And

1786
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 2: if she's flying on the taxpayer dollar, and if she

1787
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 2: and everybody else it's flying on the taxpayer dollar and

1788
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 2: flying for work, I feel like we should know what's up,

1789
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 2: don't you? Nine Away from nine.

1790
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: Heather duplessy Ellen pond on Mike hosting Breakfast with the

1791
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 1: Jaguar f Phase News Talk SEDB.

1792
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: Glenn, this is for you, Glenn. Glenn, I think we

1793
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: need Mike and Heather on together for fifteen minutes. I'm

1794
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:38,719
Speaker 2: not sure who would get a word in, but hecket

1795
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 2: would be funny. I think we can answer that question,

1796
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 2: be Mike, wouldn't it because we defer at this station,

1797
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: We defer to a seniority and be genius, which is

1798
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 2: why Glenn often doesn't say anything for the entire show.

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01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 2: Just ris to Mike here, nice bird, You're welcome starting out,

1800
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 2: starting out on day one, like we mean to continue. Hey,

1801
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 2: weirdest okay, just really quickly, really really quickly. We're is

1802
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 2: kind of trade dispute that's caught my eye. I mean,

1803
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: some trade disputes get weird. They do get weird between

1804
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 2: countries from time to time. Like I personally think us

1805
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 2: having to give up bree is a bit weird. But anyway,

1806
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 2: it is what it is. Turkey wants to regulate the

1807
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 2: donut kebab. Now, the donor kebab feels to me like

1808
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 2: a thing, like a burger, Like whoever came with it,

1809
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:22,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter who came up with it. We

1810
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 2: all own it now and we're all doing it our

1811
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 2: own way, aren't we.

1812
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 6: So are we allowed to still call it a kebab

1813
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 6: or just not don a kebab.

1814
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 2: This is not even This is not even the start,

1815
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 2: Like we haven't even got to the naming rights. Where

1816
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 2: we're regulating is what kind of meat you're allowed to use.

1817
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 2: So you're allowed to use chicken, beef and lamb, but

1818
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 2: you're not allowed to use veal in turkey. You're not

1819
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 2: allowed to marinate it, and you have to slice it

1820
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 2: in a certain way. It has to be served on

1821
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 2: a bed of rice or wrapped in a lavash flatbread,

1822
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 2: along with fries, tomatoes and hot peppers, no garlic sauce.

1823
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 2: Germany is upset about this because Germany's bastardized the thing.

1824
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 2: It's wrapped the thing in peter bread, it's topped it

1825
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 2: with cabbage and lettu, it's got heaps of sausages that

1826
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 2: they do, all kinds of stuff. The donor kebab is causing.

1827
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 2: It's causing so much trouble. The EU has had to

1828
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 2: sit these two countries down and say I can come

1829
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 2: into this room. You've got six months and if you

1830
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,600
Speaker 2: don't sort out this donor kebab situation, We're going to

1831
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 2: sort it out for you. Eight who says human rights

1832
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 2: are the big thing. This is the big thing. Five

1833
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: away from nine.

1834
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 3: Trending now the home of big brand cosmetics.

1835
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 2: Get a load of this. Okay, there's a guy called Trump.

1836
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 2: He's going viral. He's spoken Wisconsin late afternoon our time.

1837
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 2: There was only there was one comment in particular that

1838
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 2: has both sides questioning whether he's just you know, lost it.

1839
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 2: Finally we're going to get to that. But there were

1840
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 2: other moments that also went viral. So he said news

1841
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 2: outlets shouldn't show any of Carmela's rallies.

1842
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 25: That I have to sit there and listen to her

1843
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 25: bullshit last night, and who.

1844
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 3: Puts it on Fox News?

1845
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 25: And they shouldn't be allowed to put it on.

1846
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 3: It's all lies, it's all lies.

1847
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 2: Stones and glass houses. Then he got his guns mixed.

1848
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 25: Up then as well in Killers Street Gangs, then as

1849
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 25: well in Killers Street Gangs occupying the town with MK

1850
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 25: forty sevens. I know that gun very well. I got

1851
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 25: to know it very well. I've become an expert on

1852
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 25: guns quickly.

1853
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously, And Apparently most of us don't know how

1854
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 2: our phones work.

1855
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 25: Immigrants, they have a phone app so that people can

1856
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 25: come into our country. These are smart immigrants, I guess,

1857
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 25: because most people don't have any idea what the hell

1858
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 25: of phone app is.

1859
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 2: But this is where the majority rerickon the line got

1860
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 2: a little bloed.

1861
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 24: Joe Biden became mentally impaired.

1862
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 25: Kamala was born that way.

1863
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 24: She was born, And if you think about it, only

1864
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 24: a mentally disabled person could have allowed this to happen

1865
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 24: to our country.

1866
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 15: Anybody would know this.

1867
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 2: You know what's going to happen. Everybody's going to flip

1868
01:28:58,160 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 2: out about it, and they going to say he went

1869
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 2: too far, and they're going to run stories of it

1870
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 2: for about forty eight hours and he's going to go

1871
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 2: up in the polls. That's how that's going to work,

1872
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 2: isn't it. Unfortunately, that's how Trump he plays it. Hey,

1873
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 2: thank you for having me back with you tomorrow. Enjoy

1874
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 2: the rest of your day.

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