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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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Speaker 1: from News Talk said by Squeaky Door or Squeaky Floor.

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Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcamp, the Resident Builder

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Speaker 1: on news Talk Seat.

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Speaker 2: By the house sizzle even when it's dark, even when

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Speaker 2: the grass is overgrown in the yard, and even when

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Speaker 2: the dog is too old to barn, and when you're

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Speaker 2: sitting at the table trying not to start scissor hole,

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Speaker 2: even when we move again, even.

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Speaker 3: When you're therellone.

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Speaker 2: House sizzle hol even when there's gone, even when you.

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Speaker 1: Go around from the ones you love your mom.

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Speaker 4: Scream those broken plans being in.

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Speaker 2: Fundom locals Westball when they're gone and living them well.

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Speaker 4: Very very good morning, and welcome along to the Resident

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Speaker 4: Builder on Sunday here at news Talk c B with

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Speaker 4: me Petele worlf Camp, the Resident Builder. So if you've

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Speaker 4: got a question of a building nature, you are more

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Speaker 4: than welcome to call right now. You can text as well,

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Speaker 4: you can even email go through those details in a moment,

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Speaker 4: but calls are always best. Welcome to the show, and

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Speaker 4: I trust you've had a good week as we are

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Speaker 4: writ and down the date, second of March already and

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Speaker 4: I'm guessing that there's probably a bunch of people a

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Speaker 4: little bit like me, going, oh, I thought I would

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Speaker 4: have got that done by now. Maybe you know, now

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Speaker 4: we're into March, that's the third month of the year.

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Speaker 4: I better get cracking with those projects, and I better

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Speaker 4: get cracking with them before inevitably spring or summer that

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Speaker 4: turns to autumn, turned to winter, and then that becomes

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Speaker 4: the oh, well, I can't do the job now it's

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Speaker 4: almost winter time. I'm speaking from my own experience. I've

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Speaker 4: got a couple of tasks that I know I'm pretty

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Speaker 4: keen to get done before winter comes, and it's just

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Speaker 4: you know, a little bit of pressure on to get

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Speaker 4: those jobs out of the way. If you've got a

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Speaker 4: project that is underway, a perhaps a project that is

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Speaker 4: underway and is going spectacularly well, but you just want

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Speaker 4: a few little finishing details, we can do that. Perhaps

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Speaker 4: you've got a project that's underway that isn't quite going

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Speaker 4: the way that you hoped and thought it might go,

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Speaker 4: and you want to talk about that. We can do

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Speaker 4: that as well. Perhaps you've encountered some new materials or

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Speaker 4: some new ideas. We can talk about that for sure.

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Speaker 4: In fact, one of the actually it was a delightful trip.

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Speaker 4: I was in Queenstown yesterday. So the Southern Lakes Home

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Speaker 4: and Garden Show is on just at the events center

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Speaker 4: right near the airport actually and started on Friday. I

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Speaker 4: And because I had plenty of time yesterday, actually I

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Speaker 4: spent quite a bit of time with individual exhibitors talking

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Speaker 4: And it's a for someone and I guess in my situation,

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Speaker 4: it's a great opportunity to talk to other experts in

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Speaker 4: issues around you know, types of insulation and insulation performance.

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Speaker 4: I had breakfast with a building survey, so we were

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Speaker 4: talking about the H one compliance that the submissions closed

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Speaker 4: last year. We talked about it just a fascinating sort

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Speaker 4: I say, it's on again today. I was down yesterday,

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Speaker 4: was stunning day yesterday. But the Home Garden Show on

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Speaker 4: again today, right and before we rip into the calls,

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Speaker 4: which we will do in just a moment, highlight of

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Speaker 4: a house that had been refurbished by students at One

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Speaker 4: Me I'm pretty sure it'll be on one roof and

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Speaker 4: that house is going to be auctioned. The money will

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Speaker 4: go back into the program, and they've already booked a

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Speaker 4: new house. So I went along to the opening, which

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Speaker 4: Chris Penk the Minister was there as well, and I

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Speaker 4: got talking to Charlotte McEwan, who is the teacher in

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Speaker 4: So she's going to join us after eight o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 4: I'm really looking forward to that. It is a fantastic initiative.

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Speaker 4: There are sort of variations of it across the country.

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Speaker 4: It's not the first time I've heard of schools either

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Speaker 4: building from scratch, but there is some particular features of

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Speaker 4: this program which I think are really outstanding and hopefully

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Speaker 4: we'll be picked up by other colleges. And having a

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Speaker 4: chat with her on the Monday, apparently other schools were

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Speaker 4: maybe of introducing that to other secondary schools. And if

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Speaker 4: you've ever sat down and talked to anyone about trade training,

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Speaker 4: getting young people into the trades and just the challenges

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Speaker 4: we face there, I think this is a fantastic initiative.

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Speaker 4: So really looking forward to talking to Charlotte around eight o'clock,

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Speaker 4: just after the o'clock news, she's going to come into

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Speaker 4: the studio. Rity. Oh that's my introduction for the day.

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Speaker 4: Oh we've got Bryce as well, our razine painting expert

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Speaker 4: from seven thirty, So any specific painting questions you can

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Speaker 4: text those through to nine two ninety two. If you'd

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Speaker 4: like to email me, it's Pete at newsorksb dot co

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Speaker 4: dot nz. And better of all of them, out of

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Speaker 4: all of those things, if there's a hierarchy, let's get

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Speaker 4: on the phone. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty My

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Speaker 4: apologies too. You can probably hear my voices a little

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Speaker 4: bit croquy, and there might be the occasional splutter on

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Speaker 4: my part, you know, classic sort of cold at this

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Speaker 4: we'll box on through that. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty,

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Speaker 4: great to be with you this second day of March

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. Donnie, A very good morning. Hello Donnie.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Iry. I thought you see Bee. I thought you

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Speaker 5: see Ben. I thought that's definitely not me.

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Speaker 4: No, that you Donnie. How are you?

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Speaker 5: It's Donnie, lovely Pete, Thanks so much for taking my call. Listen,

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Speaker 5: I have three quick questions for you, but they will

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Speaker 5: be quick for you. Insulation Now, I have a nineteen

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Speaker 5: twenty six bungalow and it's been well maintained. I obviously

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Speaker 5: haven't been in it that long, but I've been in

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Speaker 5: it now for about twenty years.

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Speaker 4: In time's the national average. Typically we're movie every five years,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, not me obviously, but anyway, it's got insulation.

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Speaker 5: I've had insulation put in the roof and it was

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Speaker 5: the blowing in type variety. It was around twelve to

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Speaker 5: I won't say which company, but it was a rock

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Speaker 5: fall type thing. Now, what I want to know is

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Speaker 5: can I top that up with anything like another blow

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Speaker 5: and product or does it have to be the same or.

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 4: In terms of compatibility, there's not really any issue, you know,

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Speaker 4: if you had have said, look, it's really old insulation

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Speaker 4: and it's been there for a long time and it's

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Speaker 4: its provenance, let's say, then there are companies that will

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Speaker 4: remove that and you can add new insulation or replace

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Speaker 4: it with new insulation. But it's not an uncommon practice

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Speaker 4: to upgrade your ceiling insulation by adding another layer. So

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Speaker 4: yes you could. And do you know what the depth

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Speaker 4: of the blowing insulation is?

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Speaker 8: Rough?

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Speaker 5: Gosh, If I had all the paperworkuse I would if

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Speaker 5: I was better organized, I would have delved under the

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Speaker 5: house and the work.

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Speaker 4: Look, if it's a blowing system, and there will be

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Speaker 4: inevitably and the different insulation performs differently, But it's not

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Speaker 4: unfair to say that the blow and insulation will settle

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Speaker 4: over time, right And as it does. It's effectiveness diminishous.

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Speaker 4: We're only talking, you know, tiny percentages, but it does

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Speaker 4: do that. So if you if someone went up there

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Speaker 4: and found that, yes, there was blown insulation in there,

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Speaker 4: and maybe it did settle so that it was almost

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Speaker 4: at the height of the ceiling joists which run across

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Speaker 4: the room, adding a layer above that and so effectively

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Speaker 4: putting insulation at nine degrees to the direction of the

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Speaker 4: ceiling choice will mean that you eliminate the thermal bridging.

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Speaker 4: So there's a real advantage to that, right, Yes, okay,

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Speaker 4: you can add something.

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Speaker 5: Yes, okay, that's perfect, and it doesn't need.

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Speaker 4: To be so it doesn't have to be the same product,

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Speaker 4: No it doesn't.

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Speaker 5: Right, Okay, that's perfect, thank you. Question number two the

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Speaker 5: deck and I'm trying to do it but each day.

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Speaker 5: And I actually ran you a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 5: which of course you won't remember. Give of course i'd

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Speaker 5: be horrif cleaning it with a wire brush when we're

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Speaker 5: not have been wet cleaning it with a wire brush,

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Speaker 5: and okay, and blah blah blah. And someone one of

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Speaker 5: your callers kindly rang in and said that woman councisus

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Speaker 5: leave it with the cleaning it with the wire brush.

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Speaker 5: He needs to use something afterwards, and he told me

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Speaker 5: what the recipe was. Oh, okay, it involved bleach, and

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Speaker 5: I didn't want to use bleach. I don't want to

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Speaker 5: work with it and environmentally, I don't want to use it.

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Speaker 5: So I googled and several different site said that box

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Speaker 5: water and dish washing liquor for goods. So I've been

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Speaker 5: using that and it's coming up well.

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Speaker 4: And the decking that you're talking about is this tongue

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Speaker 4: and groove decking with a painted surface on it.

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Speaker 5: No, it's not painted. It's just a wooden deck, the

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Speaker 5: boards on it, with the you know, the ridges on

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Speaker 5: the unfortunately, so it's it's pretty black all over. And

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Speaker 5: I get the funnel, you know, for sunning. It's north facing,

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Speaker 5: so I get the sun all day, but it still

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Speaker 5: goes black.

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Speaker 5: But I've been doing a bit each day, but I

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Speaker 5: want to put something on. I feel like I should

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Speaker 5: put something on. It's all silver, but I feel that,

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Speaker 5: you know, the boards are.

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Speaker 4: Splitting and the sort of inevitable.

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Speaker 4: Well splinters are slightly but by sealing it you won't

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Speaker 4: Donnie as always, and please.

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Speaker 5: So much, don't believe it another couple.

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Speaker 4: Of years, right, all of this, take care well, lovely

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Speaker 4: your news talk said b If you'd like to call

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Speaker 1: Moment, helping you get those DIY projects done. Right to

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Speaker 4: Welcome along to the show, Emma, thanks for waiting, and

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Speaker 5: Good morning. I'm I'm just feeding a todd of the

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Speaker 10: There's any background multitasking. But I have a.

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Speaker 4: meticulously cleaned the surface, so literally a miniature water blaster

433
00:23:09,735 --> 00:23:13,975
Speaker 4: and a vacuum cleaner water blasted the tiles and vacuumed

434
00:23:14,055 --> 00:23:17,015
Speaker 4: up at the same time, cleaned it thoroughly, then re

435
00:23:17,135 --> 00:23:20,295
Speaker 4: epoxied all of the mortar joints and so on. So

436
00:23:21,295 --> 00:23:23,775
Speaker 4: graffiti Guard might be an option. Try one of the

437
00:23:23,775 --> 00:23:27,175
Speaker 4: tile shops, or try grout Pro right.

438
00:23:27,015 --> 00:23:29,615
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, because it's in its interior in the.

439
00:23:29,575 --> 00:23:33,175
Speaker 9: Kitchen area, so exactly.

440
00:23:32,415 --> 00:23:35,975
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well it is. This was like a tiny

441
00:23:35,975 --> 00:23:38,335
Speaker 4: little high pressure jet, but what they were able to

442
00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:41,055
Speaker 4: do is use that and have wet and dry extraction

443
00:23:41,135 --> 00:23:43,735
Speaker 4: at the same time, so you know, it's a process

444
00:23:43,735 --> 00:23:45,575
Speaker 4: that they do often and they're used to doing it.

445
00:23:45,615 --> 00:23:48,455
Speaker 4: So I think it'll be a case of maybe applying

446
00:23:48,455 --> 00:23:51,775
Speaker 4: a stripper of some description, then removing that, thoroughly cleaning

447
00:23:51,775 --> 00:23:54,535
Speaker 4: the area, and then reapplying. And I would say that

448
00:23:54,575 --> 00:23:57,975
Speaker 4: the sealers, and I'm not sure about specific slate sealers,

449
00:23:57,975 --> 00:24:01,815
Speaker 4: but there will be some that will perhaps rather than

450
00:24:02,415 --> 00:24:05,575
Speaker 4: adhering to the surface, will just penetrate in and then

451
00:24:05,695 --> 00:24:09,135
Speaker 4: seal the surf, and then that then becomes a maintenance thing.

452
00:24:09,215 --> 00:24:11,335
Speaker 4: You use a particular type of cleaner and every year

453
00:24:11,375 --> 00:24:13,895
Speaker 4: you reapply a sealer over the top. But that'll be

454
00:24:13,935 --> 00:24:15,055
Speaker 4: a permanent solution.

455
00:24:16,255 --> 00:24:18,135
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you very much for all the.

456
00:24:18,055 --> 00:24:21,255
Speaker 4: Best, Take care, you have a great day. All the best. Then,

457
00:24:21,375 --> 00:24:23,455
Speaker 4: oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

458
00:24:23,495 --> 00:24:26,335
Speaker 4: to call. Quick text A peaked two weeks ago. We

459
00:24:26,495 --> 00:24:30,415
Speaker 4: inquired about unplastered joints and screw holes and a garage

460
00:24:30,415 --> 00:24:33,055
Speaker 4: ceiling firewall. The vendors have done some of the plastering,

461
00:24:33,295 --> 00:24:35,855
Speaker 4: but did not plaster behind the timber frames because the

462
00:24:35,895 --> 00:24:39,695
Speaker 4: ceiling space is difficult to access. How can the plastering

463
00:24:39,775 --> 00:24:42,895
Speaker 4: be done to meet council requirements given the difficulty of

464
00:24:42,935 --> 00:24:47,175
Speaker 4: reaching some parts of the joints. The fact that it's

465
00:24:47,215 --> 00:24:50,615
Speaker 4: difficult is nobody's problem apart from the person who didn't

466
00:24:50,615 --> 00:24:53,095
Speaker 4: do it right in the first place. So if the

467
00:24:53,215 --> 00:24:59,255
Speaker 4: vendors have got and fire ratings particularly important right, you

468
00:24:59,295 --> 00:25:01,975
Speaker 4: know there will even if it's difficult, there'll still be

469
00:25:02,015 --> 00:25:05,255
Speaker 4: a solution. And I what do I see The other day?

470
00:25:06,375 --> 00:25:09,855
Speaker 4: It was more in an apartment situation, so residential, multi

471
00:25:09,855 --> 00:25:15,695
Speaker 4: story building, where during regular maintenance work they'd found that

472
00:25:16,415 --> 00:25:20,495
Speaker 4: some of the penetrations or the fire the penetrations through firewalls,

473
00:25:20,575 --> 00:25:24,855
Speaker 4: let's say, from a corridor into the apartment above the

474
00:25:24,935 --> 00:25:29,175
Speaker 4: ceiling level, were not particularly well detailed, and there's very

475
00:25:29,215 --> 00:25:32,055
Speaker 4: specific details around the size of the penetration, the type

476
00:25:32,095 --> 00:25:35,095
Speaker 4: of cable that's going through it. You can either use

477
00:25:35,135 --> 00:25:38,975
Speaker 4: fire collars or certain types of sealent, et cetera, et cetera,

478
00:25:39,015 --> 00:25:42,255
Speaker 4: et cetera. What they did because it was obviously a

479
00:25:42,295 --> 00:25:44,495
Speaker 4: bit of a hodgepodge, and no one was sure about

480
00:25:44,575 --> 00:25:46,935
Speaker 4: how well the stopping was done, and all the rest

481
00:25:46,935 --> 00:25:50,615
Speaker 4: of it is applied in intermedcent coating over the entire surface,

482
00:25:51,335 --> 00:25:54,615
Speaker 4: so all of the exposed fire line jib and our

483
00:25:54,615 --> 00:25:58,575
Speaker 4: presume its fireline right through this area was simply coated

484
00:25:58,615 --> 00:26:03,135
Speaker 4: in an intermedcent ceiler, which apparently was quite cost effective

485
00:26:03,335 --> 00:26:08,135
Speaker 4: and relatively quick to do. So I'm guessing in this situation,

486
00:26:08,575 --> 00:26:10,815
Speaker 4: it might be that there's some timber over the top

487
00:26:10,855 --> 00:26:14,855
Speaker 4: of the fire rated I mean timber itself has a

488
00:26:14,975 --> 00:26:17,775
Speaker 4: char rating, so it has a burn time, which means

489
00:26:17,895 --> 00:26:20,095
Speaker 4: maybe you don't need to But perhaps what you need

490
00:26:20,135 --> 00:26:22,495
Speaker 4: to do is get someone to get a fire engineer

491
00:26:22,535 --> 00:26:24,935
Speaker 4: to assess it, get them to give you a description

492
00:26:25,015 --> 00:26:26,455
Speaker 4: of the work that needs to be done, and then

493
00:26:26,495 --> 00:26:28,975
Speaker 4: follow those instructions. And it might just be you may

494
00:26:29,015 --> 00:26:30,695
Speaker 4: not need to do anything, or you may just need

495
00:26:30,735 --> 00:26:34,055
Speaker 4: to cote that exposed timber. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

496
00:26:34,135 --> 00:26:37,175
Speaker 4: ten eighty. It does get quite quick technical, quite quickly.

497
00:26:37,735 --> 00:26:41,015
Speaker 4: Old cold villa hello with old thin glass, and we're

498
00:26:41,015 --> 00:26:43,975
Speaker 4: talking glass that might be like, you know, three millimeters thick.

499
00:26:44,175 --> 00:26:46,735
Speaker 4: We're changing to a high spec laminate glass. Get us

500
00:26:46,775 --> 00:26:49,975
Speaker 4: closer to double glazing. Cassette speck that are expensive on

501
00:26:50,055 --> 00:26:54,095
Speaker 4: double hung sash windows. You can find all the numbers online, right,

502
00:26:54,135 --> 00:26:57,535
Speaker 4: so all of the statistics for the thermal performance of

503
00:26:57,535 --> 00:27:02,335
Speaker 4: glazing will be online, whether it's independently or whether it's

504
00:27:02,335 --> 00:27:05,975
Speaker 4: with a company that you might be interested in. Laminate

505
00:27:06,055 --> 00:27:09,215
Speaker 4: will not give you the same therm will performance as

506
00:27:09,455 --> 00:27:12,215
Speaker 4: double glazing. It just doesn't work that way. It will

507
00:27:12,215 --> 00:27:14,575
Speaker 4: give you some benefit. It will also give you benefit

508
00:27:14,615 --> 00:27:17,415
Speaker 4: in terms of acoustics and so on, but it won't

509
00:27:17,455 --> 00:27:19,775
Speaker 4: be the same, but it will be an improvement in

510
00:27:19,815 --> 00:27:21,775
Speaker 4: the same way. That's saying. Look, if you took out

511
00:27:21,815 --> 00:27:24,135
Speaker 4: your old two and a half three mil glass and

512
00:27:24,175 --> 00:27:26,775
Speaker 4: replace it with four mill float, that will be better

513
00:27:27,335 --> 00:27:30,735
Speaker 4: because it's thicker. But having two layers of glass with

514
00:27:31,055 --> 00:27:34,415
Speaker 4: a layer in between won't give you the same benefits

515
00:27:34,415 --> 00:27:36,975
Speaker 4: as double glazing. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

516
00:27:36,975 --> 00:27:38,615
Speaker 4: the number four. We'll take a short break. We'll talk

517
00:27:38,655 --> 00:27:39,935
Speaker 4: to Kathy in just a moment.

518
00:27:41,495 --> 00:27:44,735
Speaker 1: God once, but maybe call Pete first for your aff

519
00:27:44,895 --> 00:27:46,615
Speaker 1: the resident builder news dogs.

520
00:27:46,615 --> 00:27:49,895
Speaker 4: They'd be in like a robber's dog. I am right here, Kathy,

521
00:27:49,935 --> 00:27:55,095
Speaker 4: good morning, Thanks.

522
00:27:54,495 --> 00:28:01,575
Speaker 10: I have a grander that has Douglas fir rafters. Yes,

523
00:28:01,695 --> 00:28:05,815
Speaker 10: the one rafters facing shouts, you know, the outside one

524
00:28:05,855 --> 00:28:08,615
Speaker 10: and the other one spacing north and the north one

525
00:28:08,695 --> 00:28:12,375
Speaker 10: is fine, but the south one has got some sort

526
00:28:12,375 --> 00:28:17,215
Speaker 10: of dozy bits along the along the length of it. Now,

527
00:28:17,295 --> 00:28:20,175
Speaker 10: someone said to me, oh, you can scoop out the

528
00:28:20,535 --> 00:28:26,415
Speaker 10: dozy bits and fill up with bog because there's strength

529
00:28:26,575 --> 00:28:29,055
Speaker 10: still in the douglasphere, because it's sort of got the

530
00:28:29,055 --> 00:28:30,215
Speaker 10: weak bits of wood and the.

531
00:28:30,175 --> 00:28:31,175
Speaker 6: Strong bits of wood.

532
00:28:33,415 --> 00:28:34,695
Speaker 4: Yes, that's there.

533
00:28:34,775 --> 00:28:35,095
Speaker 6: There is.

534
00:28:36,495 --> 00:28:38,415
Speaker 4: I suppose what it is is a in a piece

535
00:28:38,455 --> 00:28:41,175
Speaker 4: of timber protect in a structural piece of timber. There's

536
00:28:41,175 --> 00:28:45,335
Speaker 4: always a redundancy, right, so you could take out it.

537
00:28:45,375 --> 00:28:49,095
Speaker 4: But it then becomes a question of the extent of it.

538
00:28:49,495 --> 00:28:52,535
Speaker 4: So you know, if let's say, what's happened, and I

539
00:28:52,535 --> 00:28:54,695
Speaker 4: can imagine that perhaps a little bit of water has

540
00:28:54,735 --> 00:28:57,215
Speaker 4: got into the top of the douglasphere. Has it got

541
00:28:57,735 --> 00:29:00,655
Speaker 4: roofing over it? Or is it just a purglar that's open,

542
00:29:00,735 --> 00:29:01,735
Speaker 4: doesn't have roofing on it.

543
00:29:02,735 --> 00:29:07,295
Speaker 10: No, it's got it clear line, and it's got over

544
00:29:07,375 --> 00:29:08,055
Speaker 10: it as well.

545
00:29:08,175 --> 00:29:09,895
Speaker 6: But somehow water's got in.

546
00:29:09,895 --> 00:29:12,615
Speaker 4: Inevitably, sometimes with these things that you know, with movement

547
00:29:12,655 --> 00:29:14,935
Speaker 4: and so on, there'll be water that gets around the fixings,

548
00:29:16,015 --> 00:29:19,015
Speaker 4: finds its way down through where the fixing penetrates the

549
00:29:19,095 --> 00:29:22,335
Speaker 4: roofing and into the timber itself. And then because one

550
00:29:22,375 --> 00:29:24,415
Speaker 4: of the beauties of Douglas Fair is typically you don't

551
00:29:24,455 --> 00:29:26,895
Speaker 4: need to treat it. But if it does get wet

552
00:29:26,935 --> 00:29:29,175
Speaker 4: and it stays wet, it will start to decay. And

553
00:29:29,215 --> 00:29:33,295
Speaker 4: so that's that's what's happening. If you were to get

554
00:29:33,375 --> 00:29:36,135
Speaker 4: up on a step ladder safely and sort of push

555
00:29:36,335 --> 00:29:39,255
Speaker 4: against the rafter, do you get any movement?

556
00:29:41,455 --> 00:29:41,655
Speaker 8: Oh?

557
00:29:41,775 --> 00:29:44,455
Speaker 10: No, the raft seems to be quite fair.

558
00:29:44,735 --> 00:29:47,655
Speaker 4: And you know the extent of the rot would it

559
00:29:47,695 --> 00:29:54,215
Speaker 4: be one fifth of the depth of the rafter? Would

560
00:29:54,215 --> 00:29:56,855
Speaker 4: it be half of the rafter? That sort of thing.

561
00:29:58,695 --> 00:30:02,415
Speaker 10: There's one place where the light was, yeah, because there

562
00:30:02,415 --> 00:30:05,175
Speaker 10: was an outside light through that. It's all the way

563
00:30:05,215 --> 00:30:09,975
Speaker 10: through and there. Yeah. So it's like there's a hole,

564
00:30:10,575 --> 00:30:14,975
Speaker 10: a bigger hole than just a drilling hole through that spot.

565
00:30:15,255 --> 00:30:18,215
Speaker 4: Right. What's the width of the rafters.

566
00:30:19,175 --> 00:30:25,095
Speaker 10: Oh, they're quite big. Yeah, so they are like about

567
00:30:25,495 --> 00:30:28,175
Speaker 10: I don't know, would they be two inches or two inches?

568
00:30:28,335 --> 00:30:31,535
Speaker 4: Okay, but I mean if you've got two yeah, so

569
00:30:31,615 --> 00:30:34,055
Speaker 4: six or eight for two in the old language. Right,

570
00:30:35,495 --> 00:30:38,375
Speaker 4: But if you've got a bit of decay that goes

571
00:30:38,415 --> 00:30:40,495
Speaker 4: from the top of the rafters to the bottom through

572
00:30:40,495 --> 00:30:43,735
Speaker 4: a two inch piece. You'd be getting pretty close to

573
00:30:43,775 --> 00:30:47,615
Speaker 4: that being unsound. Now, given that nobody hopefully nobody has

574
00:30:47,655 --> 00:30:50,615
Speaker 4: to walk on the roof, and that there are adjoining rafters,

575
00:30:51,055 --> 00:30:53,335
Speaker 4: you know, the danger in terms of it collapsing are

576
00:30:53,375 --> 00:30:57,615
Speaker 4: fairly small. Look, if you were to repair it, there's

577
00:30:57,655 --> 00:30:59,975
Speaker 4: a couple of things. One is you remove as much

578
00:31:00,015 --> 00:31:03,215
Speaker 4: of the loose material as you possibly can. I wouldn't

579
00:31:03,255 --> 00:31:05,335
Speaker 4: be too aggressive with it, but you could just with

580
00:31:05,455 --> 00:31:08,255
Speaker 4: a sharp knife or a chisel or something like that

581
00:31:08,535 --> 00:31:12,815
Speaker 4: remove the loose parts. I would probably apply some timber

582
00:31:12,855 --> 00:31:17,175
Speaker 4: treatment that will prevent the or slow down the decay

583
00:31:17,895 --> 00:31:21,495
Speaker 4: spreading through the timber, and then rather than using something

584
00:31:21,495 --> 00:31:24,335
Speaker 4: like builder's bog, which has little strength to it. I mean,

585
00:31:24,375 --> 00:31:27,775
Speaker 4: it's a good product in the right application. In this application,

586
00:31:27,855 --> 00:31:31,495
Speaker 4: I'd probably use something like repair Care, which is a

587
00:31:31,535 --> 00:31:34,935
Speaker 4: product you can buy at the Razine color shops. It's

588
00:31:34,975 --> 00:31:38,815
Speaker 4: a two part Essentially, it's an epoxy that is both

589
00:31:38,815 --> 00:31:41,695
Speaker 4: a filler and an adhesive, so it will it will

590
00:31:41,735 --> 00:31:45,735
Speaker 4: hold better. Now, depending on this the amount that you

591
00:31:45,815 --> 00:31:50,335
Speaker 4: need to use, I mean, could you just take that

592
00:31:50,415 --> 00:31:53,295
Speaker 4: rafter out and replace it? We're starting That sounds like

593
00:31:53,335 --> 00:31:53,855
Speaker 4: a big job.

594
00:31:53,895 --> 00:31:56,535
Speaker 10: Doesn't it That sounds okay?

595
00:31:57,015 --> 00:31:58,815
Speaker 4: Look, I think if you were to repair it, I

596
00:31:58,855 --> 00:32:02,015
Speaker 4: would scrape out any loose material, try and get someone

597
00:32:02,055 --> 00:32:03,975
Speaker 4: to do it a bit of a timber preservative like

598
00:32:04,415 --> 00:32:08,695
Speaker 4: ProTem or framesaver, or there's even products called timber hardeners

599
00:32:08,975 --> 00:32:13,055
Speaker 4: which are specifically for repairing areas of decay, and then

600
00:32:13,375 --> 00:32:16,655
Speaker 4: I use the repair care as Do I.

601
00:32:16,655 --> 00:32:19,335
Speaker 10: Get those from somewhere like Bunnings.

602
00:32:19,015 --> 00:32:24,215
Speaker 4: Or repair Care I'm pretty sure is only at at

603
00:32:24,255 --> 00:32:27,535
Speaker 4: the Razine color shops, So that's where I buy it from,

604
00:32:28,615 --> 00:32:31,255
Speaker 4: you know, frame savers and timber preservators, and that you'll

605
00:32:31,255 --> 00:32:32,855
Speaker 4: get at any of the large hardware stores.

606
00:32:33,815 --> 00:32:36,895
Speaker 10: Okay, okay, So then so then should I go and

607
00:32:36,935 --> 00:32:45,095
Speaker 10: make sure I put some silicon and screw down on those,

608
00:32:45,695 --> 00:32:49,015
Speaker 10: you know, for the fleshings and the clear life.

609
00:32:49,095 --> 00:32:53,215
Speaker 4: What you might find is that either the hole through

610
00:32:53,255 --> 00:32:57,255
Speaker 4: the roofing has enlarged right so with a bit of movement,

611
00:32:57,415 --> 00:33:00,735
Speaker 4: or perhaps the little near prene washer on the underside

612
00:33:00,855 --> 00:33:03,575
Speaker 4: has decayed, or you know, it might have been overtightened

613
00:33:03,575 --> 00:33:07,175
Speaker 4: and then it's split and come away. So yes, if

614
00:33:07,215 --> 00:33:09,735
Speaker 4: you can identify where that moisture might be getting in

615
00:33:10,055 --> 00:33:12,335
Speaker 4: and you replace those fixings. That'd be a great idea

616
00:33:12,415 --> 00:33:14,015
Speaker 4: to cool now.

617
00:33:14,095 --> 00:33:16,815
Speaker 10: Someone's also suggested, sorry, you be.

618
00:33:16,935 --> 00:33:19,495
Speaker 4: Super careful walking around on top of or working on

619
00:33:19,535 --> 00:33:20,295
Speaker 4: top of the clear light.

620
00:33:20,375 --> 00:33:26,295
Speaker 11: He yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, no, I won't get

621
00:33:24,295 --> 00:33:30,855
Speaker 11: up on. Someone else suggested, I've just had my house

622
00:33:30,895 --> 00:33:33,695
Speaker 11: three roofs. I didn't do redo the clear light because

623
00:33:33,695 --> 00:33:37,255
Speaker 11: it's not in too bad condition, but I've got an

624
00:33:37,295 --> 00:33:42,575
Speaker 11: extra piece of fleshing left over, and they suggested putting

625
00:33:42,655 --> 00:33:47,095
Speaker 11: fleshing over the whole of the raft that outside rafter.

626
00:33:47,495 --> 00:33:49,855
Speaker 11: Would that be booth one or do you think?

627
00:33:50,095 --> 00:33:50,255
Speaker 6: Yeah?

628
00:33:50,295 --> 00:33:53,255
Speaker 4: Potentially, like if it's a ClearLight roofing and it just

629
00:33:53,375 --> 00:33:56,255
Speaker 4: runs to the end of the pergola and then stops,

630
00:33:56,695 --> 00:34:00,135
Speaker 4: there's nothing to stop water tracking back in. So effectively,

631
00:34:00,175 --> 00:34:02,335
Speaker 4: if you had like an L shaped flashing that went

632
00:34:02,415 --> 00:34:05,095
Speaker 4: over there so that it directed any water that falls

633
00:34:05,135 --> 00:34:07,855
Speaker 4: on top of the clear light orgated clear light runs

634
00:34:07,855 --> 00:34:10,095
Speaker 4: to the end and drops into the spouting. And also

635
00:34:10,215 --> 00:34:13,815
Speaker 4: anything that gets blown in from the side doesn't get

636
00:34:13,815 --> 00:34:15,895
Speaker 4: a chance to get blown in because the opron of

637
00:34:15,975 --> 00:34:18,695
Speaker 4: the barge fleshing is there. So yes, a fleshing at

638
00:34:18,695 --> 00:34:20,335
Speaker 4: either end will make a difference.

639
00:34:19,975 --> 00:34:24,415
Speaker 10: As well, So there is a fleshing already over the side,

640
00:34:24,495 --> 00:34:26,615
Speaker 10: but it only comes down like a couple of mil

641
00:34:26,735 --> 00:34:29,055
Speaker 10: you know, it just comes from the top of the

642
00:34:29,095 --> 00:34:32,935
Speaker 10: clear like down over the Douglas sphere. This was putting

643
00:34:32,935 --> 00:34:34,255
Speaker 10: a full fleshing in.

644
00:34:35,335 --> 00:34:37,735
Speaker 4: That would help. But to be fair, anything more than

645
00:34:38,175 --> 00:34:40,775
Speaker 4: fifty millimeters used to be the code. Now it's seventy five.

646
00:34:40,895 --> 00:34:43,295
Speaker 4: So if you've got seventy five milk cover from the

647
00:34:43,295 --> 00:34:46,135
Speaker 4: top of the raft down that will certainly stop any

648
00:34:46,175 --> 00:34:46,975
Speaker 4: moisture coming through.

649
00:34:47,855 --> 00:34:51,135
Speaker 10: Okay, okay, all of the best, Thank you so much, take.

650
00:34:50,935 --> 00:34:53,415
Speaker 4: Care all of us. Kathy bother then and John, quick

651
00:34:53,495 --> 00:34:54,695
Speaker 4: question from you, how are you sir?

652
00:34:56,535 --> 00:35:00,935
Speaker 8: I'm good. You know when you've got insulation brown into

653
00:35:00,935 --> 00:35:05,135
Speaker 8: the ceiling space yep. And if you recommend topping it up.

654
00:35:05,015 --> 00:35:09,295
Speaker 4: Again yes in situations.

655
00:35:08,735 --> 00:35:14,695
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well if you cover those those timbers up where

656
00:35:14,775 --> 00:35:17,735
Speaker 8: you walk to the ceiling, how do you know where?

657
00:35:17,735 --> 00:35:19,735
Speaker 8: How do you know? Then you know where the where

658
00:35:19,775 --> 00:35:25,175
Speaker 8: they where? These uh timbers are again that you usually

659
00:35:25,295 --> 00:35:28,375
Speaker 8: either walk on or if it's if it's a high ceilings.

660
00:35:28,455 --> 00:35:30,935
Speaker 8: Basically you've got to call on hands and knees. Now,

661
00:35:30,975 --> 00:35:33,295
Speaker 8: if you blame mind on top of that, or you

662
00:35:33,455 --> 00:35:38,895
Speaker 8: lay more insulation on top of that, or where identify

663
00:35:38,575 --> 00:35:39,095
Speaker 8: the walk.

664
00:35:39,495 --> 00:35:41,415
Speaker 4: It's the price you pay for progress.

665
00:35:42,695 --> 00:35:45,535
Speaker 8: Yeah, but that's that's not answering it. I mean, you're

666
00:35:45,535 --> 00:35:47,335
Speaker 8: going to be really don't you do?

667
00:35:47,495 --> 00:35:50,375
Speaker 4: But but you don't get So what you're saying is

668
00:35:50,775 --> 00:35:52,975
Speaker 4: what you're saying, John, And I understand where you're coming from, right,

669
00:35:53,015 --> 00:35:55,495
Speaker 4: I've been in enough ceilings to go, hey, look, it's

670
00:35:55,575 --> 00:35:59,175
Speaker 4: much easier if you're clambering around inside an old bungalow

671
00:35:59,335 --> 00:36:01,015
Speaker 4: or a villa or something like that, and you can

672
00:36:01,015 --> 00:36:03,375
Speaker 4: see the ceiling joisting and step from one to the other.

673
00:36:04,375 --> 00:36:08,575
Speaker 4: But just for the occasional time that you might need

674
00:36:08,615 --> 00:36:12,255
Speaker 4: to go into the ceiling, not having decent insulation there

675
00:36:12,655 --> 00:36:15,495
Speaker 4: doesn't make any logical sense to me, right, So the

676
00:36:15,535 --> 00:36:17,855
Speaker 4: better thing to do is to have lots of insulation

677
00:36:18,295 --> 00:36:20,335
Speaker 4: and then to be a lot more cautious when you're

678
00:36:20,335 --> 00:36:22,375
Speaker 4: walking around in there. The other thing too, and you'll

679
00:36:22,415 --> 00:36:25,175
Speaker 4: know this because your obvious experience is that typically the

680
00:36:25,215 --> 00:36:28,735
Speaker 4: ceiling joist will be in line with the rafter, right,

681
00:36:29,095 --> 00:36:31,655
Speaker 4: So if as you're walking through you can see where

682
00:36:31,655 --> 00:36:34,975
Speaker 4: the rafter goes down to the top plate, you know

683
00:36:35,055 --> 00:36:37,855
Speaker 4: that either directly underneath it or to the left and

684
00:36:37,895 --> 00:36:39,895
Speaker 4: the right, so we're only talking fifty mil either way.

685
00:36:40,375 --> 00:36:42,655
Speaker 4: That's where the ceiling raft is going to be, so

686
00:36:42,735 --> 00:36:45,375
Speaker 4: you will be able to find out where they are.

687
00:36:45,455 --> 00:36:48,655
Speaker 4: But to me, like wanting to keep some sort of

688
00:36:48,695 --> 00:36:51,335
Speaker 4: access in the roof is not a good enough reason

689
00:36:51,455 --> 00:36:52,615
Speaker 4: not to do better insulation.

690
00:36:54,295 --> 00:36:56,495
Speaker 8: Well, wouldn't you reader be to sucking up the old

691
00:36:57,255 --> 00:37:01,135
Speaker 8: and then refit new insulation? Not all? See, because you

692
00:37:01,255 --> 00:37:03,495
Speaker 8: know very well for people that know where to walk,

693
00:37:03,815 --> 00:37:05,775
Speaker 8: there's too many people with climbin and roofs that they

694
00:37:05,855 --> 00:37:06,135
Speaker 8: know where.

695
00:37:06,495 --> 00:37:09,415
Speaker 4: Yeah, then don't let them up there. And then you know,

696
00:37:09,415 --> 00:37:11,135
Speaker 4: if you don't know what you're doing, don't go there.

697
00:37:11,135 --> 00:37:14,615
Speaker 4: But insulation's good. Insulation that gets rid of thermal bridging

698
00:37:14,695 --> 00:37:18,135
Speaker 4: is better. I'm not going to compromise on insulation just

699
00:37:18,255 --> 00:37:20,975
Speaker 4: for the sake of someone who doesn't know what they're doing.

700
00:37:21,655 --> 00:37:24,815
Speaker 4: That's my opinion. I appreciate the call, buddy, all the best.

701
00:37:25,055 --> 00:37:27,295
Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty ten minutes away from

702
00:37:27,335 --> 00:37:28,415
Speaker 4: seven back in a mow.

703
00:37:29,055 --> 00:37:31,455
Speaker 1: Doing of the house sorting the guard and asked Pete

704
00:37:31,495 --> 00:37:34,815
Speaker 1: for a hand. The resident builder with Peter wolfcap call

705
00:37:34,895 --> 00:37:39,535
Speaker 1: oh eight hundred used dogs'd be interesting.

706
00:37:39,095 --> 00:37:42,055
Speaker 4: Text as well. It's come through. Hi there, I've got

707
00:37:42,095 --> 00:37:44,695
Speaker 4: a twenty year old concrete tile roof that's been sprayed

708
00:37:44,735 --> 00:37:48,215
Speaker 4: for moss removal. Worked very well, the pointing and the

709
00:37:48,255 --> 00:37:50,495
Speaker 4: tiles are in good condition. Now the company recommends a

710
00:37:50,535 --> 00:37:54,455
Speaker 4: silicon spray to seal the tiles and then repeat the

711
00:37:54,455 --> 00:37:57,255
Speaker 4: silicon every second year. Is the silicon a good idea?

712
00:37:57,335 --> 00:38:00,455
Speaker 4: I was advised it's quite caustic to galvanized gutters, thank

713
00:38:00,455 --> 00:38:02,735
Speaker 4: you very much from Shane. So I had a quick

714
00:38:02,815 --> 00:38:05,735
Speaker 4: little google of that in terms of the impact of

715
00:38:05,775 --> 00:38:10,935
Speaker 4: silicon on galvanizing, and there is the potential for it to,

716
00:38:14,135 --> 00:38:18,415
Speaker 4: in what I'm reading, speed up the process of corrosion.

717
00:38:18,415 --> 00:38:22,095
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, hang on, like, anytime you do galvanized

718
00:38:22,135 --> 00:38:24,215
Speaker 4: spouting and that sort of thing, if you're joining it

719
00:38:24,935 --> 00:38:26,975
Speaker 4: and doing flashings, you put a bait of silicon through

720
00:38:26,975 --> 00:38:32,655
Speaker 4: the join. I don't know whether it's of such significance

721
00:38:32,695 --> 00:38:35,695
Speaker 4: that it would really impact on the overall lifespan of

722
00:38:35,735 --> 00:38:40,175
Speaker 4: the galvanized gutters. You could always ensure that when they

723
00:38:40,215 --> 00:38:43,335
Speaker 4: do the silicon spray that perhaps they mask the gutters

724
00:38:43,415 --> 00:38:46,455
Speaker 4: off so that they're not filling them up with silicon spray,

725
00:38:47,335 --> 00:38:50,255
Speaker 4: and certainly ceiling the roof tiles is a good idea

726
00:38:50,375 --> 00:38:53,335
Speaker 4: to prevent build up. Whether or not you need to

727
00:38:53,335 --> 00:38:56,055
Speaker 4: do it every two years, I'm not so sure to

728
00:38:56,055 --> 00:38:59,015
Speaker 4: be fair, but go on you for looking after the roof.

729
00:38:59,055 --> 00:39:03,535
Speaker 4: It's really important. Kathy, Good morning, Good morning morning.

730
00:39:03,575 --> 00:39:08,095
Speaker 7: Indeed, I have just got a quick quin. You actually

731
00:39:08,255 --> 00:39:14,775
Speaker 7: mentioned this. It's about sense paint versus staining better, actually

732
00:39:14,895 --> 00:39:18,655
Speaker 7: mention this probably a few weeks ago, and I just

733
00:39:18,735 --> 00:39:21,575
Speaker 7: caught the tail end of it. What is the best

734
00:39:21,615 --> 00:39:27,815
Speaker 7: thing the sense painte versus staining? And I think, right,

735
00:39:27,855 --> 00:39:30,335
Speaker 7: I better ask one of the experts, which is you?

736
00:39:30,655 --> 00:39:32,495
Speaker 7: So please can I have your opinion?

737
00:39:32,655 --> 00:39:35,575
Speaker 4: Well, there seems to be a difference of opinion. No

738
00:39:35,695 --> 00:39:39,975
Speaker 4: surprises there. So if my attitude had kind of been

739
00:39:40,015 --> 00:39:43,135
Speaker 4: if it's you know, new timber, or it's older timber

740
00:39:43,175 --> 00:39:47,055
Speaker 4: that's never been painted or sealed, it's never had any

741
00:39:47,095 --> 00:39:51,255
Speaker 4: application over it, then I would often say, well, why

742
00:39:51,255 --> 00:39:55,375
Speaker 4: wouldn't you just use a stain because it's easier to

743
00:39:55,735 --> 00:39:58,335
Speaker 4: maintain over time, it's probably a little bit easier to

744
00:39:58,375 --> 00:40:00,295
Speaker 4: apply in the sense that it's you know, you're just

745
00:40:00,415 --> 00:40:04,135
Speaker 4: using that product, and maybe two coats to get decent coverage.

746
00:40:04,815 --> 00:40:04,975
Speaker 8: Yeah.

747
00:40:05,015 --> 00:40:07,935
Speaker 4: Then I was talking to of all people, Bryce McDermott,

748
00:40:07,935 --> 00:40:10,135
Speaker 4: who's going to join us in about thirty five minutes,

749
00:40:10,535 --> 00:40:13,015
Speaker 4: and he was like, oh, no, I'd paint it because

750
00:40:13,295 --> 00:40:17,655
Speaker 4: it gives more of a coating and it will not

751
00:40:17,735 --> 00:40:22,015
Speaker 4: necessarily last longer, but it will. It will build up.

752
00:40:22,015 --> 00:40:24,295
Speaker 4: It will give you more protection over time because you've

753
00:40:24,295 --> 00:40:28,175
Speaker 4: got a painted surface. And look, to be fair, I'm

754
00:40:28,175 --> 00:40:33,535
Speaker 4: looking at a project that I did, so old fencing, right,

755
00:40:33,735 --> 00:40:37,935
Speaker 4: like forty year old fencing had that red stain that

756
00:40:37,975 --> 00:40:40,375
Speaker 4: we used to have years and years ago that had

757
00:40:40,415 --> 00:40:43,775
Speaker 4: all worn away almost and I got my guys to

758
00:40:43,895 --> 00:40:47,535
Speaker 4: just spray it with paint, right and I and that's

759
00:40:47,575 --> 00:40:50,575
Speaker 4: probably seven or eight years ago. I was back there

760
00:40:50,615 --> 00:40:53,015
Speaker 4: the other day looking at it. The paint's actually still

761
00:40:53,095 --> 00:40:56,095
Speaker 4: in really good condition. So I'm going to hedge my

762
00:40:56,175 --> 00:40:59,655
Speaker 4: bets and say, actually, either of them will work. It

763
00:40:59,735 --> 00:41:02,975
Speaker 4: might just come down to personal preference, but it seems

764
00:41:03,015 --> 00:41:06,055
Speaker 4: like the painting is at least as durable and long

765
00:41:06,095 --> 00:41:09,135
Speaker 4: live as the staining is, so there's there's not a

766
00:41:09,175 --> 00:41:12,615
Speaker 4: lot between the two, seemingly, so sorry to be sitting

767
00:41:12,615 --> 00:41:15,775
Speaker 4: on the fence pardon the pun, but that that's kind

768
00:41:15,775 --> 00:41:17,535
Speaker 4: of where we land with that one, right HEO. We're

769
00:41:17,575 --> 00:41:20,135
Speaker 4: back after news, sport and weather, and our painting expert

770
00:41:20,175 --> 00:41:22,535
Speaker 4: is coming along. So text through your painting questions here

771
00:41:22,535 --> 00:41:24,295
Speaker 4: at News Talk SEDB back after the.

772
00:41:24,215 --> 00:41:27,215
Speaker 1: News, whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or

773
00:41:27,255 --> 00:41:29,415
Speaker 1: wondering how to fix that hole in the wall. Give

774
00:41:29,455 --> 00:41:34,095
Speaker 1: the Peter wolf Gafa call on the resident builder on

775
00:41:34,175 --> 00:41:34,935
Speaker 1: News Talks ed B.

776
00:41:35,535 --> 00:41:37,575
Speaker 4: Yeah, News Talks. He'd be very good morning, welcome back

777
00:41:37,575 --> 00:41:39,775
Speaker 4: to the show. It is just coming up six and

778
00:41:39,815 --> 00:41:42,935
Speaker 4: a half minutes after seven. At around seven point thirty

779
00:41:42,975 --> 00:41:45,535
Speaker 4: this morning, we will have our painting expert, which is

780
00:41:45,575 --> 00:41:48,815
Speaker 4: Bryce McDermott from Razine Color Shops. He's going to be available,

781
00:41:48,815 --> 00:41:51,935
Speaker 4: so starting to get some good look to be fair

782
00:41:52,015 --> 00:41:55,495
Speaker 4: trickier the better in terms of the painting questions, right, So,

783
00:41:55,495 --> 00:41:58,375
Speaker 4: so don't hold back. If you've got a terrible job,

784
00:41:59,095 --> 00:42:02,935
Speaker 4: or an incredibly tricky job, or you're completely lost, then

785
00:42:04,095 --> 00:42:05,895
Speaker 4: send us a text. Well we'll see if we can

786
00:42:05,935 --> 00:42:08,935
Speaker 4: sort that. So Bryce will be joining us at around

787
00:42:08,935 --> 00:42:12,295
Speaker 4: seven thirty and after eight o'clock, which is about an

788
00:42:12,295 --> 00:42:16,255
Speaker 4: hour bit away in the studio. Actually which would be

789
00:42:16,295 --> 00:42:20,255
Speaker 4: great is Charlotte McEwan from One Tree Hill College. If

790
00:42:20,295 --> 00:42:23,455
Speaker 4: you happen to see it was on the One News

791
00:42:23,615 --> 00:42:26,695
Speaker 4: on Monday evening. It was on the Breakfast Show on Monday.

792
00:42:27,295 --> 00:42:29,575
Speaker 4: The reporter came out to One Tree Hill College and

793
00:42:29,655 --> 00:42:33,375
Speaker 4: had a look around a completely refurbished three bedroom home

794
00:42:34,215 --> 00:42:39,775
Speaker 4: which had been salvaged effectively from the Eastern Busway project,

795
00:42:39,775 --> 00:42:44,335
Speaker 4: which is in Auckland. There's a big infrastructure infrastructure, big

796
00:42:44,415 --> 00:42:48,095
Speaker 4: public transport project to extend the busway from pukerong A

797
00:42:48,215 --> 00:42:52,135
Speaker 4: town center through to Botany and that meant taking away

798
00:42:52,655 --> 00:42:54,415
Speaker 4: quite a number of houses. It would have been in

799
00:42:54,455 --> 00:42:58,695
Speaker 4: the fifty sixty houses removed, and some of those houses,

800
00:42:59,135 --> 00:43:02,295
Speaker 4: instead of just being demolished or taken away as is,

801
00:43:02,855 --> 00:43:04,975
Speaker 4: one of them was picked up taken through to One

802
00:43:04,975 --> 00:43:08,455
Speaker 4: Tree Hill College and then the students in conjunction with

803
00:43:08,615 --> 00:43:11,855
Speaker 4: some license building practitioners and the tremendous support of a

804
00:43:11,935 --> 00:43:15,575
Speaker 4: number of companies. That was actually really impressive to see

805
00:43:15,575 --> 00:43:18,375
Speaker 4: the number of local businesses that stepped up, whether it

806
00:43:18,455 --> 00:43:23,295
Speaker 4: was supplying insulation or Green Gorilla providing bins. I saw

807
00:43:23,335 --> 00:43:26,655
Speaker 4: Steeple Ultron had put in a heat pump hot water system,

808
00:43:27,215 --> 00:43:30,135
Speaker 4: there was new roofing, there was new joinery, there was carpet,

809
00:43:30,175 --> 00:43:32,615
Speaker 4: there was tiles, there was paint, et cetera, et cetera,

810
00:43:32,935 --> 00:43:36,535
Speaker 4: all seemingly donated by local businesses, which is fantastic. And

811
00:43:36,535 --> 00:43:39,255
Speaker 4: then the students, over the course of less than a year,

812
00:43:40,095 --> 00:43:42,775
Speaker 4: refurbished the house and the house is now available for sale.

813
00:43:42,815 --> 00:43:47,135
Speaker 4: It's online through the local barf and Thompson Agency. I'm

814
00:43:47,135 --> 00:43:48,975
Speaker 4: sure it's on trade me as well, and you can

815
00:43:48,975 --> 00:43:51,655
Speaker 4: buy it. It's completely done to a very high standard

816
00:43:51,735 --> 00:43:54,455
Speaker 4: and you could literally truck it off, drop it down

817
00:43:54,495 --> 00:43:58,135
Speaker 4: on your place and move in. It's fantastic and that's

818
00:43:58,175 --> 00:44:01,735
Speaker 4: cool in itself, But for me, what really struck me,

819
00:44:01,895 --> 00:44:03,415
Speaker 4: and I think most of the people who were at

820
00:44:03,415 --> 00:44:06,655
Speaker 4: the opening on Monday, was the impact it's had on

821
00:44:06,775 --> 00:44:10,335
Speaker 4: the students themselves. So in terms of an introduction to

822
00:44:10,455 --> 00:44:12,975
Speaker 4: trade training, I spent a little bit of time talking

823
00:44:13,015 --> 00:44:15,255
Speaker 4: to a young fellow who'd been involved in the demolition

824
00:44:15,375 --> 00:44:18,055
Speaker 4: and the insulation, and it's an insight into the trades

825
00:44:19,935 --> 00:44:22,015
Speaker 4: to some degrees. The challenge with the trades now in

826
00:44:22,055 --> 00:44:24,295
Speaker 4: terms of getting young people into it is they may

827
00:44:24,295 --> 00:44:29,415
Speaker 4: not get the experience right, so you know, growing up

828
00:44:29,535 --> 00:44:32,655
Speaker 4: like I grew up, Dad had a business. I worked

829
00:44:32,655 --> 00:44:36,375
Speaker 4: in the factory as a kid, I worked for local builders,

830
00:44:36,415 --> 00:44:38,775
Speaker 4: that sort of thing. There was the opportunity to have

831
00:44:39,295 --> 00:44:42,335
Speaker 4: that exposure to what the trades were about, in the

832
00:44:42,375 --> 00:44:45,015
Speaker 4: variety of trades. So for some of the young people

833
00:44:45,015 --> 00:44:50,295
Speaker 4: that I spoke with, what seemed to be quite insightful

834
00:44:50,375 --> 00:44:53,135
Speaker 4: for them was the opportunity maybe to work alongside the

835
00:44:53,135 --> 00:44:56,215
Speaker 4: tyler or the stopper, or the painter, or the window

836
00:44:56,295 --> 00:45:00,295
Speaker 4: installer or the kitchen installer. And that's what this program

837
00:45:00,415 --> 00:45:03,295
Speaker 4: does for those students. So Charlotte from One Tree Hill

838
00:45:03,335 --> 00:45:05,015
Speaker 4: College is going to come in and we're going to

839
00:45:05,015 --> 00:45:07,335
Speaker 4: have a chat shortly and just after eight o'clock about that.

840
00:45:07,415 --> 00:45:10,095
Speaker 4: Really looking forward to that, which also means, folks that

841
00:45:10,135 --> 00:45:12,215
Speaker 4: you've got basically from now three to eight o'clock to

842
00:45:12,255 --> 00:45:14,855
Speaker 4: ask you DIY question, So get into it. Oh, eight

843
00:45:14,975 --> 00:45:18,335
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number. I just

844
00:45:18,375 --> 00:45:20,375
Speaker 4: want to deal with this one too. The text that's

845
00:45:20,375 --> 00:45:24,815
Speaker 4: come through from Malcolm Pete. I'm wanting to attach a

846
00:45:24,895 --> 00:45:27,975
Speaker 4: folding clothes line to the wall of our house. It

847
00:45:28,095 --> 00:45:32,095
Speaker 4: is a fiber cement presumably fix on batons I'm trying

848
00:45:32,095 --> 00:45:35,255
Speaker 4: to find the studs behind the sheeting to affix a

849
00:45:35,335 --> 00:45:39,295
Speaker 4: horizontal board and then attach the clothesline. The stud finder

850
00:45:39,335 --> 00:45:42,095
Speaker 4: doesn't seem to work on the substrate. Tapping and checking

851
00:45:42,095 --> 00:45:45,215
Speaker 4: with a small drill hasn't helped, presumably because the batons

852
00:45:45,255 --> 00:45:49,575
Speaker 4: mean I don't hasn't helped, presumably because the batons mean

853
00:45:49,615 --> 00:45:51,215
Speaker 4: I don't need to use a long drill to hit

854
00:45:51,215 --> 00:45:53,935
Speaker 4: the stud which I'm reluctant to do by then putting

855
00:45:53,935 --> 00:45:58,855
Speaker 4: lots of holes in the wall. So suggestions, please, Look, Malcolm,

856
00:45:59,095 --> 00:46:02,295
Speaker 4: I think you've identified something that's a genuine issue worth

857
00:46:02,655 --> 00:46:05,455
Speaker 4: this type of construction. Well, this type of cladding, right is,

858
00:46:05,655 --> 00:46:08,615
Speaker 4: if you're going to do a penetration through it later on,

859
00:46:09,055 --> 00:46:11,615
Speaker 4: how do you ensure that that doesn't contribute to leaking

860
00:46:11,935 --> 00:46:16,735
Speaker 4: and potential decay to the building over time? And if

861
00:46:16,775 --> 00:46:20,775
Speaker 4: it's a folding clothes line, so it's it's probably two

862
00:46:20,855 --> 00:46:24,455
Speaker 4: brackets separated by about one and a half meters, typically

863
00:46:25,255 --> 00:46:30,175
Speaker 4: fixed in but of course you can't change the spacing

864
00:46:30,215 --> 00:46:34,215
Speaker 4: of those brackets. It's fixed by the type of folding

865
00:46:34,255 --> 00:46:36,935
Speaker 4: clothes line you've got. So your idea is to fix

866
00:46:36,975 --> 00:46:40,295
Speaker 4: a board to the wall and then fix the brackets

867
00:46:40,335 --> 00:46:43,815
Speaker 4: of the folding clothes line where you can then adjust

868
00:46:43,815 --> 00:46:48,415
Speaker 4: that and fix them on there. I look to be fair,

869
00:46:48,855 --> 00:46:53,295
Speaker 4: My preference would be find another alternative, like do a

870
00:46:53,295 --> 00:46:57,375
Speaker 4: different type of clothes line to a pullout line. Ideally

871
00:46:57,455 --> 00:47:00,895
Speaker 4: do one that doesn't actually have to be fixed to

872
00:47:00,935 --> 00:47:05,495
Speaker 4: the house at all. If you do, if this is

873
00:47:05,535 --> 00:47:08,455
Speaker 4: your only alter the challenge with putting a board against

874
00:47:08,455 --> 00:47:11,895
Speaker 4: the house, as you're effectively creating a dam, so water

875
00:47:12,415 --> 00:47:16,295
Speaker 4: is going to get trapped between the exterior cladding and

876
00:47:16,375 --> 00:47:19,855
Speaker 4: the back of the board. It'll sit there, It'll potentially

877
00:47:19,855 --> 00:47:21,935
Speaker 4: find its way through the fixings that you've put in

878
00:47:22,895 --> 00:47:27,215
Speaker 4: and migrate. Moisture will migrate along those fixings and into

879
00:47:27,215 --> 00:47:30,375
Speaker 4: the building fabric. Not a good thing. So if you

880
00:47:30,455 --> 00:47:32,375
Speaker 4: were going to do that, you'd want to make sure

881
00:47:32,375 --> 00:47:35,415
Speaker 4: that there's a drainage gap between the exterior cladding and

882
00:47:35,455 --> 00:47:38,295
Speaker 4: the back of the board, So maybe use something like

883
00:47:38,335 --> 00:47:40,855
Speaker 4: a six B two and eight but two. Make sure

884
00:47:40,855 --> 00:47:43,575
Speaker 4: that you've got an EDPM washer there so that there's

885
00:47:43,775 --> 00:47:47,615
Speaker 4: the EDPM washer sells the penetration and the fact that

886
00:47:47,655 --> 00:47:50,575
Speaker 4: it's packed off the wall allows for drainage and ventilation

887
00:47:51,335 --> 00:47:53,615
Speaker 4: in order to find the studs work from the inside out.

888
00:47:53,775 --> 00:47:56,335
Speaker 4: So go inside, use your stud meter on the inside,

889
00:47:56,535 --> 00:47:59,215
Speaker 4: have a reference point like a window measure along from

890
00:47:59,255 --> 00:48:02,455
Speaker 4: the window, find the studs, transfer that measurement to the outside.

891
00:48:02,735 --> 00:48:06,295
Speaker 4: You should be okay. But again, if at all possible,

892
00:48:06,455 --> 00:48:11,175
Speaker 4: I would avoid putting penetrations after the build into into

893
00:48:11,215 --> 00:48:13,895
Speaker 4: that type of clouding would be my recommendation. I eight

894
00:48:14,015 --> 00:48:16,095
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty. I know that was a really

895
00:48:16,255 --> 00:48:20,255
Speaker 4: lengthy dissertation on these types of cloudings, but the number

896
00:48:20,335 --> 00:48:23,535
Speaker 4: of times that either I've been and other professionals who

897
00:48:23,535 --> 00:48:26,295
Speaker 4: work in the space have been to houses where people

898
00:48:26,335 --> 00:48:29,095
Speaker 4: have have fixed, you know, washing lines et cetera, et

899
00:48:29,135 --> 00:48:32,775
Speaker 4: cetera through the cladding without detailing it well, and then

900
00:48:33,175 --> 00:48:36,455
Speaker 4: there's basically you're creating leaks right drilling holes in your

901
00:48:36,495 --> 00:48:39,215
Speaker 4: cladding not sealing it properly, and it's going to leak.

902
00:48:39,335 --> 00:48:41,575
Speaker 4: So don't do that. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty

903
00:48:41,655 --> 00:48:44,375
Speaker 4: is the number to call Ellen. Very good morning to you.

904
00:48:44,935 --> 00:48:46,215
Speaker 8: Good morning crazy to me.

905
00:48:46,495 --> 00:48:49,175
Speaker 4: They're not pad Actually talk to me about scaffle planks.

906
00:48:49,215 --> 00:48:50,695
Speaker 4: I quite like scaffole planks.

907
00:48:50,775 --> 00:48:51,255
Speaker 6: Go for it.

908
00:48:52,335 --> 00:48:58,335
Speaker 12: Yeah, I bought two new scaffold planks right, laminade apply,

909
00:48:58,935 --> 00:49:02,535
Speaker 12: they got to all restriction general there, all of gaff

910
00:49:02,575 --> 00:49:07,775
Speaker 12: on the side of them, yep, And they are so smooth.

911
00:49:08,055 --> 00:49:10,095
Speaker 13: I just don't like standing on them.

912
00:49:11,615 --> 00:49:15,295
Speaker 8: I always stand on a rough so on yeah, yeah,

913
00:49:15,335 --> 00:49:22,895
Speaker 8: twelve or two. Yeah, Well, I'm.

914
00:49:22,815 --> 00:49:25,535
Speaker 4: Kind of chuckling because I was doing a job last

915
00:49:25,575 --> 00:49:28,055
Speaker 4: week where I had to set up just very low

916
00:49:28,095 --> 00:49:31,535
Speaker 4: scaffolding right, you know, on top of sawhorses and the

917
00:49:31,535 --> 00:49:33,975
Speaker 4: second runing of the ladder, just to work on facier

918
00:49:34,015 --> 00:49:36,495
Speaker 4: and saft and spouting. And I've got a bunch of

919
00:49:36,655 --> 00:49:39,935
Speaker 4: laminated scaffold planks as well, but mine are of such

920
00:49:39,975 --> 00:49:42,295
Speaker 4: a vintage that they might have been smooth once, but

921
00:49:42,335 --> 00:49:45,215
Speaker 4: they certainly aren't anymore. So I get that sort of

922
00:49:45,215 --> 00:49:49,895
Speaker 4: slip resistance type thing. Look, if you left them out

923
00:49:49,935 --> 00:49:53,775
Speaker 4: in the sun for about a week, they'd probably change complexion.

924
00:49:55,935 --> 00:49:59,255
Speaker 13: Yeah yeah, what about the rain?

925
00:50:01,375 --> 00:50:04,215
Speaker 4: Look, you know, like I store mine under the house.

926
00:50:04,295 --> 00:50:05,855
Speaker 4: I like to keep them out of the rain and

927
00:50:06,415 --> 00:50:09,855
Speaker 4: keep them dry. But inevitably, when I do use them,

928
00:50:09,895 --> 00:50:11,815
Speaker 4: if it's going to rain, well they're going to get wet, right,

929
00:50:12,255 --> 00:50:14,575
Speaker 4: and and so they will weather and age with that.

930
00:50:17,535 --> 00:50:21,855
Speaker 13: I mean, look.

931
00:50:21,655 --> 00:50:26,215
Speaker 4: I probably wouldn't I think that. I've never I hear

932
00:50:26,215 --> 00:50:29,095
Speaker 4: what you're saying about that, But surely it would only

933
00:50:29,135 --> 00:50:32,455
Speaker 4: be an actual concern if you've if you've got them,

934
00:50:32,495 --> 00:50:34,975
Speaker 4: they're brand new, and it rains and then you're you're

935
00:50:35,015 --> 00:50:38,135
Speaker 4: on them straight away after its rain. If they're dry,

936
00:50:38,735 --> 00:50:41,175
Speaker 4: I don't think they'd have much. They wouldn't be that

937
00:50:41,255 --> 00:50:44,215
Speaker 4: slippery if they're just dry, are they They're very smart,

938
00:50:45,895 --> 00:50:49,095
Speaker 4: they're very smooth, but that shouldn't necessarily make them slippery.

939
00:50:49,135 --> 00:50:51,975
Speaker 4: I mean, it's still timber, right, There's there's still it's

940
00:50:52,055 --> 00:50:55,215
Speaker 4: still fibrous. There's still little undulations in the in the

941
00:50:55,255 --> 00:50:58,175
Speaker 4: timber and that sort of thing. If you're wearing decent

942
00:50:58,255 --> 00:51:01,495
Speaker 4: quality Funny, I was having a long term talk with

943
00:51:01,575 --> 00:51:03,735
Speaker 4: a nurse at the accident and emergency the other day.

944
00:51:03,815 --> 00:51:06,975
Speaker 4: That's a whole other story about people working and crocs.

945
00:51:07,695 --> 00:51:09,135
Speaker 4: So you know, as long as you're not wearing old

946
00:51:09,215 --> 00:51:11,215
Speaker 4: jandles or crops or something like that, you've got a

947
00:51:11,215 --> 00:51:15,095
Speaker 4: pair of decent shoes on or decent boots and you're

948
00:51:15,095 --> 00:51:19,015
Speaker 4: not working in the rain. Yeah, I don't know whether

949
00:51:19,055 --> 00:51:22,215
Speaker 4: i'd paint them. Saying that when I packed mine away

950
00:51:22,255 --> 00:51:25,455
Speaker 4: the other day, I painted the ends just like fifty

951
00:51:25,495 --> 00:51:27,935
Speaker 4: mil I just I've finished painting. I had some paint

952
00:51:28,015 --> 00:51:29,575
Speaker 4: left in the pot and that sort of thing, and

953
00:51:29,615 --> 00:51:31,975
Speaker 4: I quickly whipped around the ends. That's more as a

954
00:51:32,095 --> 00:51:35,175
Speaker 4: visual queue to go. That's the end of the board right,

955
00:51:37,375 --> 00:51:43,335
Speaker 4: already painted. Ah okay, oh, that's brilliant. I hear what

956
00:51:43,375 --> 00:51:47,535
Speaker 4: you're saying. I just think that I look to be fair.

957
00:51:47,615 --> 00:51:49,335
Speaker 4: I would have thought that painting it, and if you

958
00:51:49,415 --> 00:51:51,895
Speaker 4: paint it and you don't put any sort of grit

959
00:51:52,015 --> 00:51:55,255
Speaker 4: in it, it will be even slipperer than just the timber.

960
00:51:56,375 --> 00:52:00,615
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, but hey, look, I hear what you're saying,

961
00:52:00,615 --> 00:52:04,095
Speaker 4: and I'm not dismissive of it, but I'd just be

962
00:52:04,135 --> 00:52:05,975
Speaker 4: a little bit cautious about painting them, and then you

963
00:52:06,055 --> 00:52:07,335
Speaker 4: might that they're more slippery.

964
00:52:08,255 --> 00:52:09,535
Speaker 8: I usually wear crops.

965
00:52:14,015 --> 00:52:15,895
Speaker 4: It looked just between you and I. I was sitting

966
00:52:15,895 --> 00:52:18,615
Speaker 4: there and they're going through a medical record and then

967
00:52:18,655 --> 00:52:22,135
Speaker 4: she goes, oh, I, hey two thousand and seeveneen or something.

968
00:52:22,135 --> 00:52:26,895
Speaker 4: You came in because you again wearing crocs, old ones.

969
00:52:26,895 --> 00:52:30,615
Speaker 4: They were quite slippery. And I went outside on the

970
00:52:30,615 --> 00:52:33,775
Speaker 4: wet front stairs, slipped over and crashed down onto the

971
00:52:33,775 --> 00:52:36,935
Speaker 4: stairs right and had to go and have someone look

972
00:52:36,935 --> 00:52:38,495
Speaker 4: at my back afterwards and that sort of thing. And

973
00:52:38,895 --> 00:52:42,935
Speaker 4: so while she's fixing mother buts and pieces, she's like, oh,

974
00:52:43,015 --> 00:52:44,855
Speaker 4: I see that you wear crocs when you're working outside.

975
00:52:44,895 --> 00:52:47,175
Speaker 4: And I'm like, jee because it's in my medical records. Now,

976
00:52:49,175 --> 00:52:52,055
Speaker 4: I don't to be fair. I try. Look, I still

977
00:52:52,095 --> 00:52:56,255
Speaker 4: wear crocs, but I don't wear them when I'm working anymore. Brilliant,

978
00:52:56,255 --> 00:53:01,095
Speaker 4: all right, but you look after yourself, all right. Yeah,

979
00:53:01,095 --> 00:53:03,175
Speaker 4: you'll be good. Yeah, put some boots that stay away

980
00:53:03,175 --> 00:53:05,455
Speaker 4: from the rain. You'll be fine. All of this you allen? Oh,

981
00:53:05,455 --> 00:53:07,895
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

982
00:53:08,415 --> 00:53:11,015
Speaker 4: Quick text as well? Pete, I've got a quick question. Indeed,

983
00:53:11,255 --> 00:53:13,735
Speaker 4: who do I call to fix a broken locking lever

984
00:53:13,895 --> 00:53:17,975
Speaker 4: on an aluminium bifold joinery from Lee? Look, there's a

985
00:53:18,055 --> 00:53:21,175
Speaker 4: number of sort of aluminium joinery repair companies out there.

986
00:53:22,535 --> 00:53:25,175
Speaker 4: It seems that the one with the widest reach is

987
00:53:25,255 --> 00:53:31,135
Speaker 4: probably Exceed. You'll find them online and it'll be fine.

988
00:53:31,735 --> 00:53:33,655
Speaker 4: Some bill has just text for old meat needs to

989
00:53:33,735 --> 00:53:36,255
Speaker 4: keep his planks level. Yeah, I mean most of us do,

990
00:53:36,255 --> 00:53:38,335
Speaker 4: don't we. I mean there's always a little bit of undulation.

991
00:53:38,775 --> 00:53:40,655
Speaker 4: I had sort of like three planks in a row

992
00:53:40,735 --> 00:53:44,655
Speaker 4: set up sort of you know, sawhorse, sawhorse, a frame

993
00:53:45,015 --> 00:53:47,375
Speaker 4: and then planks in between, so I could move along

994
00:53:47,415 --> 00:53:50,375
Speaker 4: the entire sort of six meter length of the side

995
00:53:50,375 --> 00:53:54,095
Speaker 4: of the garage to do nog it out, extend the rafters,

996
00:53:54,455 --> 00:53:57,375
Speaker 4: put in some nogging for the safit, hang the facial board,

997
00:53:57,455 --> 00:54:00,695
Speaker 4: put the safita in, do all the painting, hang the spouting.

998
00:54:03,175 --> 00:54:09,215
Speaker 4: Having good access is just so critical, like having a decent, stable,

999
00:54:09,655 --> 00:54:13,175
Speaker 4: safe platform to work on. And I'm talking, you know,

1000
00:54:13,615 --> 00:54:15,455
Speaker 4: six hundred off the ground or something like that, right,

1001
00:54:15,455 --> 00:54:16,935
Speaker 4: so we're not way up in the air or anything

1002
00:54:16,975 --> 00:54:24,255
Speaker 4: like that, but safe, practical and well set up high

1003
00:54:24,335 --> 00:54:27,495
Speaker 4: taccess is absolutely critical. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

1004
00:54:27,575 --> 00:54:30,775
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to cour And another quick text

1005
00:54:30,775 --> 00:54:34,015
Speaker 4: as well, Hey Pete, you mentioned earbuds or something about

1006
00:54:34,055 --> 00:54:38,495
Speaker 4: hearing protection ear bloods. Tell you what Tomorrow I'm doing

1007
00:54:38,495 --> 00:54:40,775
Speaker 4: an interview and we'll play that perhaps next Sunday on

1008
00:54:40,815 --> 00:54:45,295
Speaker 4: the show with an associate professor of audiology to talk

1009
00:54:45,335 --> 00:54:49,175
Speaker 4: about the efficacy of noise canceling earbuds in terms of

1010
00:54:49,215 --> 00:54:51,935
Speaker 4: hearing protection. It's been a little bit of a bugbear

1011
00:54:52,015 --> 00:54:55,615
Speaker 4: of mine I'm not convinced that you're getting the protection

1012
00:54:55,895 --> 00:54:59,935
Speaker 4: you need in a high noise environment like a construction

1013
00:55:00,055 --> 00:55:04,335
Speaker 4: site or while using power tools. I'll be really honest,

1014
00:55:04,375 --> 00:55:06,615
Speaker 4: I don't think that. I can't see how the noise

1015
00:55:06,655 --> 00:55:10,855
Speaker 4: canceling headphones prevent that initial impact of noise on your hearing.

1016
00:55:10,935 --> 00:55:14,255
Speaker 4: So I've never used them. I'm but old fashioned. I

1017
00:55:14,335 --> 00:55:18,015
Speaker 4: just go for hearing protection as an ear mus I've

1018
00:55:18,055 --> 00:55:21,735
Speaker 4: got some that have, you know, bluetooth and speakers in them,

1019
00:55:21,775 --> 00:55:24,335
Speaker 4: which I keep at a low level. I don't need

1020
00:55:24,375 --> 00:55:27,815
Speaker 4: to be blasting music into my ears while I'm working,

1021
00:55:27,895 --> 00:55:29,775
Speaker 4: but it is a nice distraction. I can listen to

1022
00:55:29,815 --> 00:55:31,615
Speaker 4: the radio, I can listen to podcasts, I can listen

1023
00:55:31,655 --> 00:55:36,615
Speaker 4: to music while I'm working away. But my preference has

1024
00:55:36,655 --> 00:55:38,775
Speaker 4: always been for that. So anyway, we're going to get

1025
00:55:38,775 --> 00:55:42,255
Speaker 4: some proper advice from an associate professor of audiology on

1026
00:55:42,295 --> 00:55:44,295
Speaker 4: that particular issue next week on the show, So looking

1027
00:55:44,295 --> 00:55:46,975
Speaker 4: forward to that. Twenty minutes twenty and a half after seven,

1028
00:55:47,095 --> 00:55:48,775
Speaker 4: we'll take a short break. We'll talk to Eric in

1029
00:55:48,815 --> 00:55:50,575
Speaker 4: a moment. If you'd like to join us, eight hundred

1030
00:55:50,615 --> 00:55:53,815
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call, and

1031
00:55:54,095 --> 00:55:56,895
Speaker 4: if you've got any painting questions for Bryce, our painting

1032
00:55:56,975 --> 00:56:00,495
Speaker 4: expert from Razine. He'll be available from about seven thirty

1033
00:56:00,535 --> 00:56:03,215
Speaker 4: this morning, so text them through as well. Like I say,

1034
00:56:03,255 --> 00:56:05,455
Speaker 4: the trickier the better for Bryce, we need to keep

1035
00:56:05,535 --> 00:56:08,015
Speaker 4: challenging him. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1036
00:56:08,095 --> 00:56:12,255
Speaker 4: number to call. Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

1037
00:56:12,415 --> 00:56:15,735
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter wolfcaf the resident builder

1038
00:56:15,975 --> 00:56:16,975
Speaker 1: on NEWSTALKSB.

1039
00:56:17,695 --> 00:56:19,855
Speaker 4: I love this text from Steve. This is a pearler.

1040
00:56:20,535 --> 00:56:22,815
Speaker 4: You said your old fashioned. Doesn't that mean you don't

1041
00:56:22,935 --> 00:56:30,175
Speaker 4: use any hearing protection? Haha, very droll, very funny, Thank you, Steve. No, look,

1042
00:56:30,215 --> 00:56:32,015
Speaker 4: to be fair, it's actually a bit personal for me

1043
00:56:32,055 --> 00:56:37,375
Speaker 4: in the sense that my dad had a metal work business.

1044
00:56:37,895 --> 00:56:40,815
Speaker 4: We made chairs and boat anchors, metal ones, the Coeny

1045
00:56:40,855 --> 00:56:42,775
Speaker 4: boat anchors if you remember those back in the day,

1046
00:56:43,615 --> 00:56:46,535
Speaker 4: and that sort of mid century metal furniture that got

1047
00:56:47,015 --> 00:56:50,495
Speaker 4: the cane weaving around it. So that was that was

1048
00:56:50,535 --> 00:56:53,935
Speaker 4: our business, our family business, and so Dad would be

1049
00:56:53,935 --> 00:56:57,375
Speaker 4: in the factory five six, seven days a week, you know,

1050
00:56:57,495 --> 00:57:00,535
Speaker 4: straightening steel, banging things, cutting stuff and all the rest

1051
00:57:00,575 --> 00:57:03,775
Speaker 4: of it. Really did I see, and we're hearing protection.

1052
00:57:04,695 --> 00:57:10,815
Speaker 4: And you know, we're talking shivers late sixties, seventies through

1053
00:57:10,855 --> 00:57:16,415
Speaker 4: to the mid eighties before we retired, and so the

1054
00:57:16,455 --> 00:57:18,335
Speaker 4: ear muffs were there, but they were hanging on the

1055
00:57:18,375 --> 00:57:24,975
Speaker 4: wall right And later in life is hearing declined and

1056
00:57:25,255 --> 00:57:28,055
Speaker 4: it became harder and harder to watch the TV without

1057
00:57:28,055 --> 00:57:33,935
Speaker 4: having it on sound setting seventy and to be really honest,

1058
00:57:34,015 --> 00:57:37,015
Speaker 4: you know, disengaged and not able to be part of conversations.

1059
00:57:37,055 --> 00:57:39,615
Speaker 4: The hearing losses has a real impact right on people's

1060
00:57:39,615 --> 00:57:42,255
Speaker 4: lives going forward, and I think that stuck with me

1061
00:57:42,455 --> 00:57:46,135
Speaker 4: and so ever since I started building, I've tried to

1062
00:57:46,175 --> 00:57:49,815
Speaker 4: be as diligent as I can be around protecting my hearing.

1063
00:57:50,615 --> 00:57:53,575
Speaker 4: You you know, you get one chance at looking after them,

1064
00:57:54,215 --> 00:57:57,135
Speaker 4: and that's why I get, you know, have such a

1065
00:57:57,175 --> 00:58:01,095
Speaker 4: concern around young people on sites, you know, maybe using

1066
00:58:01,215 --> 00:58:04,215
Speaker 4: and potentially there's some benefit to them, I'm just not

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00:58:04,375 --> 00:58:08,415
Speaker 4: convinced about their efficacy. Tracking down the associate professor of

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00:58:08,455 --> 00:58:11,855
Speaker 4: Audeology from Worklala Medical School, who I'm going to interview tomorrow,

1069
00:58:11,895 --> 00:58:14,015
Speaker 4: which would be great, and we'll have that interview for

1070
00:58:14,055 --> 00:58:16,335
Speaker 4: you next week. Remember Bryce's along shortly, so if you've

1071
00:58:16,335 --> 00:58:18,535
Speaker 4: got any painting questions, flick them through, and then we'll

1072
00:58:18,535 --> 00:58:20,975
Speaker 4: carry on with the building talkback through to eight o'clock,

1073
00:58:21,175 --> 00:58:23,895
Speaker 4: and then after eight o'clock, Charlotte mchow And, who is

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00:58:23,975 --> 00:58:27,255
Speaker 4: teacher in charge of trades, isn't that a fantastic title

1075
00:58:27,575 --> 00:58:30,375
Speaker 4: at one Tree Hill College, is going to join me.

1076
00:58:30,455 --> 00:58:32,815
Speaker 4: She's actually coming into the studio. We talk about the

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00:58:32,815 --> 00:58:37,015
Speaker 4: project and talk about the impact on young people in

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00:58:37,095 --> 00:58:39,855
Speaker 4: terms of the opportunity to engage with the trades, see

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00:58:39,855 --> 00:58:43,415
Speaker 4: what's available, and maybe start their journey into the trades

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00:58:43,895 --> 00:58:46,775
Speaker 4: from school, which I think is a fantastic idea. Eric,

1081
00:58:46,815 --> 00:58:49,695
Speaker 4: good morning, Good morning, Peter, how are you?

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00:58:50,535 --> 00:58:51,255
Speaker 6: Yeah? Good good?

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00:58:51,775 --> 00:58:54,855
Speaker 13: I let my LBP laps when I retired, so I'm

1084
00:58:54,895 --> 00:58:57,975
Speaker 13: not quite up with a play. Sure, some friends of

1085
00:58:58,015 --> 00:59:00,615
Speaker 13: ours wander at wooden joinery out of a weather board

1086
00:59:00,775 --> 00:59:05,495
Speaker 13: house and replace it with aluminum joinery. Would that require

1087
00:59:06,055 --> 00:59:09,015
Speaker 13: a hermits? Because there's nothing structural involved, but there'd be

1088
00:59:09,415 --> 00:59:12,655
Speaker 13: head flashings involved, So would that require a permit?

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00:59:14,055 --> 00:59:18,935
Speaker 4: Great question? I would incline to saying no, it wouldn't

1090
00:59:20,175 --> 00:59:23,375
Speaker 4: so as so, typically within Schedule one of the Building Act,

1091
00:59:23,455 --> 00:59:27,135
Speaker 4: it describes work that can be done, particularly maintenance work

1092
00:59:27,175 --> 00:59:31,935
Speaker 4: without necessarily requiring a consent. So, for example, they removed

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00:59:32,175 --> 00:59:35,735
Speaker 4: a A are they looking? Because there's a couple of ways

1094
00:59:35,775 --> 00:59:38,775
Speaker 4: of doing this. One is to if it's let's say,

1095
00:59:38,975 --> 00:59:42,135
Speaker 4: you know, nineteen fifties nineteen sixties joinery, you either pull

1096
00:59:42,175 --> 00:59:46,655
Speaker 4: the entire frame out and replace it, or in some cases,

1097
00:59:47,175 --> 00:59:49,975
Speaker 4: you leave the frame in, which means leaving the sill

1098
00:59:50,095 --> 00:59:53,415
Speaker 4: and the head flashing in, remove all of the sashes

1099
00:59:53,775 --> 00:59:56,455
Speaker 4: and either fixed sashes or opening sashes and a mullion

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00:59:56,775 --> 01:00:00,895
Speaker 4: and inserting a replacement joinery component into that opening.

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01:00:01,895 --> 01:00:03,855
Speaker 13: Do you know they want to pull it out because

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01:00:03,895 --> 01:00:04,735
Speaker 13: the storms.

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01:00:04,415 --> 01:00:12,255
Speaker 14: Have gone Yeah, okay, yep, I still your BP. Still

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01:00:12,415 --> 01:00:14,815
Speaker 14: I think there's an advantage to having the work done

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01:00:14,815 --> 01:00:18,015
Speaker 14: by an LBP, and if they're not changing the width

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01:00:18,095 --> 01:00:20,655
Speaker 14: of any of the openings. So if they were to say,

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01:00:20,735 --> 01:00:23,415
Speaker 14: oh that, you know, meet a wide window, while we've

1108
01:00:23,415 --> 01:00:26,015
Speaker 14: got the chance, we're going to knock out a bit

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01:00:26,015 --> 01:00:28,895
Speaker 14: of framing and extend it to one point two meters,

1110
01:00:29,175 --> 01:00:31,895
Speaker 14: that would trigger a requirement for a building consent. But

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01:00:32,015 --> 01:00:36,495
Speaker 14: I think replacing the joinery effectively from timber to aluminium

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01:00:37,055 --> 01:00:41,575
Speaker 14: wouldn't require a building consent. I do suggest that they

1113
01:00:41,655 --> 01:00:44,695
Speaker 14: have someone detail the type of work that they've done

1114
01:00:44,895 --> 01:00:49,295
Speaker 14: and how they've sorted out flashings and so on. But no,

1115
01:00:49,375 --> 01:00:51,055
Speaker 14: I don't think they need a building consent for that.

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01:00:52,015 --> 01:00:55,455
Speaker 13: Okay, cool? And one quick question when you have painting

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01:00:55,495 --> 01:00:58,855
Speaker 13: gouy on. I have a carboard with a chillder in

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01:00:58,895 --> 01:01:01,935
Speaker 13: it where I process sheep and deer and some pieces,

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01:01:02,255 --> 01:01:04,775
Speaker 13: and I've been doing it in the same car for

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Speaker 13: four years now. And I want to paint a floor.

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Speaker 13: What what would I treat the concrete with? Because obviously

1122
01:01:11,095 --> 01:01:16,775
Speaker 13: there's blood. What would I what would the concrete with

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01:01:16,935 --> 01:01:19,655
Speaker 13: burst because I want to paint it with whether I

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01:01:19,655 --> 01:01:22,535
Speaker 13: think it's soul power or would like a concrete under paint.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, I would probably use like an exterior house

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01:01:30,055 --> 01:01:32,775
Speaker 4: wash would probably do it right because it's designed to

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01:01:32,775 --> 01:01:34,695
Speaker 4: get rid of moss and mold and those sorts of things.

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Speaker 4: So look, I'll talk to Bryce about it, but I

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01:01:37,975 --> 01:01:41,615
Speaker 4: think a proprietary house wash would be enough. You could

1130
01:01:41,615 --> 01:01:45,895
Speaker 4: always use like spirait assaults, you know in the old language,

1131
01:01:46,015 --> 01:01:47,775
Speaker 4: if you wanted to do it over the concrete and

1132
01:01:47,815 --> 01:01:51,295
Speaker 4: then a sealer and then a top coat. There's also

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01:01:51,655 --> 01:01:53,415
Speaker 4: you know, I'm doing a project with us in a

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01:01:53,415 --> 01:01:56,695
Speaker 4: couple of weeks time a new one from Razine Construction

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01:01:56,815 --> 01:01:59,775
Speaker 4: Systems which is a micro cement, so you could do

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01:01:59,895 --> 01:02:02,615
Speaker 4: like a thin render over the entire surface. Still want

1137
01:02:02,655 --> 01:02:05,175
Speaker 4: to do the preparation, but if you just want to

1138
01:02:05,175 --> 01:02:08,975
Speaker 4: paint it, I think proprietary house wash product and then

1139
01:02:09,215 --> 01:02:12,135
Speaker 4: straight over with your top coats. But stay listening and

1140
01:02:12,535 --> 01:02:13,895
Speaker 4: I'll ask Bryce quickly as well.

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01:02:14,575 --> 01:02:14,935
Speaker 6: Thanks you.

1142
01:02:14,975 --> 01:02:18,055
Speaker 4: How all all of this take care all this year,

1143
01:02:18,215 --> 01:02:21,015
Speaker 4: take care and just on the joinery. So I was

1144
01:02:21,215 --> 01:02:26,535
Speaker 4: on a project earlier this week where some building surveyors

1145
01:02:26,575 --> 01:02:29,295
Speaker 4: have been engaged by the owner of the property. So

1146
01:02:29,415 --> 01:02:32,175
Speaker 4: Building Surveys is and members of the New Zealand of

1147
01:02:32,175 --> 01:02:36,935
Speaker 4: Building Surveys and they're registered building Surveys as well to

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01:02:36,975 --> 01:02:42,615
Speaker 4: determine a whether the cladding will perform. And one of

1149
01:02:42,695 --> 01:02:44,615
Speaker 4: the things we were talking about is this is a

1150
01:02:44,815 --> 01:02:48,335
Speaker 4: sort of nineteen fifties house that had the timber joinery

1151
01:02:48,455 --> 01:02:52,335
Speaker 4: removed sometime probably in the late nineteen nineties early two

1152
01:02:52,415 --> 01:02:56,215
Speaker 4: thousands and replaced with aluminium jowinery. Window size is still

1153
01:02:56,255 --> 01:02:59,495
Speaker 4: the same, so the opening hasn't changed, the cladding hasn't changed. Obviously,

1154
01:02:59,495 --> 01:03:03,855
Speaker 4: the head flashing detail is slightly different and the opinion

1155
01:03:03,975 --> 01:03:07,015
Speaker 4: was very much that work didn't require a building consent

1156
01:03:07,095 --> 01:03:09,815
Speaker 4: at the time. Certainly doesn't require a building consent now so,

1157
01:03:10,895 --> 01:03:13,135
Speaker 4: but always pays to ask. Eight hundred and eighty ten

1158
01:03:13,175 --> 01:03:14,775
Speaker 4: eighty will take a short break, and then we've got

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Speaker 4: Bryce McDermott, our painting expert from Razine. He'll be joining

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01:03:18,495 --> 01:03:20,975
Speaker 4: us in a moment. I think we might have time

1161
01:03:21,015 --> 01:03:24,015
Speaker 4: for one or two other texts questions for him, so

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01:03:24,135 --> 01:03:24,895
Speaker 4: flick him through now.

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Speaker 1: Bryce up next, helping you get those DIY projects done right.

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Speaker 1: The resident builder with peta wolf care call.

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Speaker 4: And a very very good morning to our painting expert

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01:03:38,135 --> 01:03:40,335
Speaker 4: from Razine. Bryce McDermott, Good morning.

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01:03:40,095 --> 01:03:43,615
Speaker 6: Sir, Good morning, just listening to that man with the

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01:03:44,935 --> 01:03:47,295
Speaker 6: with the sort of semi abatoire.

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01:03:47,735 --> 01:03:54,455
Speaker 4: Yeah, some some fairly deep cleaning products will be needed

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01:03:54,535 --> 01:03:58,655
Speaker 4: there to to remove what sounds like years of blood

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01:03:58,695 --> 01:03:59,055
Speaker 4: and gats.

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01:03:59,095 --> 01:04:03,815
Speaker 6: Basically, yeah, that's body sets stuff. Yeah, just you know,

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01:04:04,015 --> 01:04:06,615
Speaker 6: not to put to fine a point on it, but

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01:04:06,735 --> 01:04:10,295
Speaker 6: you know it would need some fairly serious cleaning to

1175
01:04:10,295 --> 01:04:12,855
Speaker 6: get the stuff out of the pause of the concrete. Yes,

1176
01:04:13,015 --> 01:04:14,775
Speaker 6: and maybe even a diamond grinding.

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Speaker 4: Ah. You know someone mentioned I think you and I

1178
01:04:18,535 --> 01:04:20,375
Speaker 4: have talked about this over the years. So like doing

1179
01:04:20,375 --> 01:04:23,575
Speaker 4: a garage floor, maybe you've got an older garage floor,

1180
01:04:23,615 --> 01:04:26,015
Speaker 4: that's okay, and then you decide, actually, I want to

1181
01:04:26,015 --> 01:04:29,495
Speaker 4: do a paint surface over it. And lots of people

1182
01:04:29,495 --> 01:04:33,135
Speaker 4: have said give it a quick diamond grind, which if

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01:04:33,175 --> 01:04:36,455
Speaker 4: you've got the right equipment, most people could do themselves,

1184
01:04:37,415 --> 01:04:39,135
Speaker 4: or you could get someone in to do it. And

1185
01:04:39,175 --> 01:04:42,575
Speaker 4: then what's the benefit of that, just removing that slightly

1186
01:04:42,655 --> 01:04:45,935
Speaker 4: textured surface and giving you a smoother surface to work with.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's sort of basically the idea is to get

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01:04:50,215 --> 01:04:55,655
Speaker 6: it to the feel of one hundred right, okay, And

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01:04:55,695 --> 01:04:59,535
Speaker 6: it also takes water out of the equation as well. Yes,

1190
01:05:00,495 --> 01:05:05,775
Speaker 6: you know, if you're using acid etching or something like that,

1191
01:05:05,335 --> 01:05:08,975
Speaker 6: you know there's a lot of water involved, so you've

1192
01:05:08,975 --> 01:05:11,295
Speaker 6: got to wait till the floor drives out completely. Yes,

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01:05:12,695 --> 01:05:15,735
Speaker 6: dimond grinding takes that out of the equation, right, knocks.

1194
01:05:15,495 --> 01:05:19,775
Speaker 4: Off that surface. Okay, Well, that's that's great, That's that's

1195
01:05:19,775 --> 01:05:22,415
Speaker 4: good advice for him. Hey, now, just before we rip

1196
01:05:22,415 --> 01:05:26,175
Speaker 4: into the texts, I know there's there's an old phrase

1197
01:05:26,215 --> 01:05:28,895
Speaker 4: around you know, tradesman never blames as tools in terms

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01:05:28,935 --> 01:05:32,175
Speaker 4: of getting a good finish. But let's be realistic, having

1199
01:05:32,455 --> 01:05:35,855
Speaker 4: good gear makes a big difference in terms of the finish, right,

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01:05:35,895 --> 01:05:38,615
Speaker 4: So if you've got a rubbish brush that you haven't

1201
01:05:38,775 --> 01:05:41,455
Speaker 4: washed and it's it's more solid than it is flexible

1202
01:05:41,495 --> 01:05:43,295
Speaker 4: and those sorts of things, there's no way that you're

1203
01:05:43,295 --> 01:05:45,935
Speaker 4: going to get a decent finish if you're using rubbish gear.

1204
01:05:46,575 --> 01:05:49,735
Speaker 6: You know, I mean, you spend good money on you know,

1205
01:05:49,775 --> 01:05:53,455
Speaker 6: on paying to mix a good finish, you know, So

1206
01:05:54,335 --> 01:05:56,655
Speaker 6: it doesn't hurt to have good tools to do the job.

1207
01:05:56,735 --> 01:06:00,655
Speaker 6: I mean applose to basically any trade. Sure, you know,

1208
01:06:00,775 --> 01:06:03,815
Speaker 6: if you've got the right tools that you look after them,

1209
01:06:04,055 --> 01:06:06,655
Speaker 6: you will get the finish that you expect. Yes, save

1210
01:06:06,775 --> 01:06:10,175
Speaker 6: disappointment in the long run. You know, buy a good roll,

1211
01:06:10,255 --> 01:06:12,415
Speaker 6: a sleep, buy a good brush. You know they'll last

1212
01:06:12,495 --> 01:06:13,975
Speaker 6: you for years.

1213
01:06:14,615 --> 01:06:16,975
Speaker 4: But the last thing for years is really about how

1214
01:06:17,015 --> 01:06:19,335
Speaker 4: you look after them as well, in terms of cleaning them,

1215
01:06:19,455 --> 01:06:21,735
Speaker 4: drying them, you know that that sort of thing. And

1216
01:06:21,975 --> 01:06:24,175
Speaker 4: I've just been doing some stuff and you know, I'm

1217
01:06:24,255 --> 01:06:26,575
Speaker 4: using brushes and that that I've had for a couple

1218
01:06:26,615 --> 01:06:30,295
Speaker 4: of years. But I try and when I finished with

1219
01:06:30,335 --> 01:06:33,095
Speaker 4: the painting, clean the brush thoroughly, I hang it up,

1220
01:06:33,175 --> 01:06:35,175
Speaker 4: let it dry out, and okay, it might be a

1221
01:06:35,215 --> 01:06:36,935
Speaker 4: little bit stiff when I grab it a couple of

1222
01:06:37,015 --> 01:06:39,895
Speaker 4: weeks later. But you know, a quick sort of brush

1223
01:06:39,935 --> 01:06:42,535
Speaker 4: over a surface or hit it with a wire brush

1224
01:06:42,535 --> 01:06:44,215
Speaker 4: and that sort of thing, and it's absolutely fine. But

1225
01:06:44,575 --> 01:06:46,455
Speaker 4: cleaning them well is really important.

1226
01:06:47,495 --> 01:06:49,775
Speaker 6: And you know, then then smooths them out so that

1227
01:06:50,895 --> 01:06:52,975
Speaker 6: you know, the brush looks like it's come out of

1228
01:06:53,215 --> 01:06:57,655
Speaker 6: the packet, right, yes, you know, keep those filaments nice

1229
01:06:57,655 --> 01:07:01,055
Speaker 6: and straight and everything like that and you'll have a good,

1230
01:07:01,535 --> 01:07:04,455
Speaker 6: decent brush that will last you a long time. It's worthy.

1231
01:07:05,735 --> 01:07:08,055
Speaker 4: So throwing a brush in a bucket of water or

1232
01:07:08,055 --> 01:07:10,175
Speaker 4: in a pot of water and then letting the bristles

1233
01:07:10,215 --> 01:07:13,295
Speaker 4: ben ninety degrees, that's not good.

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01:07:14,935 --> 01:07:24,895
Speaker 6: Well, it will help you, budt No, but I'm seriously, yeah, absolutely.

1235
01:07:26,255 --> 01:07:29,335
Speaker 6: If you see a packet of roller sleeves at the

1236
01:07:29,375 --> 01:07:31,655
Speaker 6: local the local ban.

1237
01:07:31,735 --> 01:07:34,935
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, and they're they're five for a dollar, then.

1238
01:07:35,175 --> 01:07:37,055
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just think twice.

1239
01:07:37,215 --> 01:07:38,295
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you're not going.

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01:07:39,735 --> 01:07:42,535
Speaker 6: You know, it's it's it's a horrible thing. I've a

1241
01:07:42,575 --> 01:07:45,815
Speaker 6: couple of times where people have you know, spent a

1242
01:07:45,815 --> 01:07:49,015
Speaker 6: lot of money on painting them the roller sleeves, and

1243
01:07:49,015 --> 01:07:51,415
Speaker 6: they going, well, why is it a crep?

1244
01:07:52,855 --> 01:07:58,015
Speaker 4: Excuse my language, I hear what you're saying. I think, yeah,

1245
01:07:58,415 --> 01:08:01,815
Speaker 4: buying quality gear and looking after it. No one's even

1246
01:08:01,855 --> 01:08:04,855
Speaker 4: disappointed by that, right, let's get amongst some of these

1247
01:08:05,335 --> 01:08:09,415
Speaker 4: painting questions. So, Shane, a nineteen seventies unit on the

1248
01:08:09,455 --> 01:08:12,295
Speaker 4: second floor, the outside set of concrete stairs has a

1249
01:08:12,375 --> 01:08:15,375
Speaker 4: rusty wrought iron handrail. I mean, you and I got

1250
01:08:15,375 --> 01:08:18,175
Speaker 4: that picture in our minds straight away, after the sandpaper

1251
01:08:18,295 --> 01:08:20,415
Speaker 4: and spraying with a bit of rust off? What paint

1252
01:08:20,455 --> 01:08:23,975
Speaker 4: should I apply to control any further rust? And what

1253
01:08:24,055 --> 01:08:25,335
Speaker 4: type of top coat? Please?

1254
01:08:27,455 --> 01:08:30,015
Speaker 6: Oh? Well, it depends how much rust has then got

1255
01:08:30,015 --> 01:08:32,895
Speaker 6: off and the metals exposed.

1256
01:08:33,095 --> 01:08:33,135
Speaker 4: Me.

1257
01:08:33,335 --> 01:08:38,335
Speaker 6: You know that's a standing to remove rustle or you know,

1258
01:08:39,015 --> 01:08:41,375
Speaker 6: a wire bust. Yes, to get it back to nice

1259
01:08:41,415 --> 01:08:47,175
Speaker 6: clean it's probably very important. And then you know, if

1260
01:08:47,215 --> 01:08:52,575
Speaker 6: you want something that's quick and you know, and I

1261
01:08:52,615 --> 01:08:57,095
Speaker 6: would consider using a product of ours called GP Primer, right,

1262
01:08:59,175 --> 01:09:01,095
Speaker 6: but make sure you get it back to clean metal

1263
01:09:01,175 --> 01:09:04,295
Speaker 6: and prime exactly the same day, because if you live

1264
01:09:04,335 --> 01:09:07,895
Speaker 6: it over again, I'll have to start all over again. Yep.

1265
01:09:09,015 --> 01:09:13,495
Speaker 6: So you know GP primer, very very sick good primer

1266
01:09:13,655 --> 01:09:17,295
Speaker 6: just for the DIY sort of project, and then you

1267
01:09:17,335 --> 01:09:19,855
Speaker 6: can proceed with any top cut over the top of

1268
01:09:19,895 --> 01:09:22,455
Speaker 6: that that you'd like. You could do an enamel top coat,

1269
01:09:22,495 --> 01:09:24,335
Speaker 6: but I would leave the prime to drive for a

1270
01:09:24,375 --> 01:09:28,095
Speaker 6: few days before you do that. Yes, but you can

1271
01:09:28,215 --> 01:09:30,855
Speaker 6: use water born coatings as well. You know, something like

1272
01:09:30,855 --> 01:09:35,455
Speaker 6: a namecrel or lust crawl would do the job quite happily.

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01:09:35,575 --> 01:09:38,895
Speaker 4: Okay, brilliant, Thank you very much, morning, Pete. Can you

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Speaker 4: ask Bryce what is the best way to repaint an

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01:09:41,535 --> 01:09:45,335
Speaker 4: error an aluminium garage tilted door? So not we don't

1276
01:09:45,335 --> 01:09:48,215
Speaker 4: have the flexibility issues you know over roller door. So

1277
01:09:48,735 --> 01:09:53,215
Speaker 4: aluminium tilts door. Let's assume that it's never been painted,

1278
01:09:53,255 --> 01:09:55,775
Speaker 4: so it's beer aluminium and it's probably twenty or thirty

1279
01:09:55,815 --> 01:09:56,215
Speaker 4: years old.

1280
01:09:59,135 --> 01:10:02,215
Speaker 6: Again, you know, you'd have to clean it down like

1281
01:10:03,575 --> 01:10:05,655
Speaker 6: we have a product called roof and Metal wash that

1282
01:10:05,695 --> 01:10:11,055
Speaker 6: would we'll get that surface ready for painting and stuff

1283
01:10:11,095 --> 01:10:13,295
Speaker 6: like that. You remove all the grease and then thing

1284
01:10:13,375 --> 01:10:15,615
Speaker 6: out of the tracks on the side of the door. Yep.

1285
01:10:17,375 --> 01:10:21,415
Speaker 6: And if it is bear aluminion, then GP primer again

1286
01:10:22,655 --> 01:10:25,015
Speaker 6: would be a good base coat for that, and then

1287
01:10:25,055 --> 01:10:30,055
Speaker 6: you could put something like water board enamel or even

1288
01:10:31,215 --> 01:10:34,815
Speaker 6: our roof paint summit roof, Yes, would go quite happily

1289
01:10:34,855 --> 01:10:35,975
Speaker 6: on that surface as well.

1290
01:10:36,095 --> 01:10:44,215
Speaker 4: Okay, so the summit roof paint, that's good. This one's

1291
01:10:44,255 --> 01:10:48,055
Speaker 4: going to have Mike from razine blower's top. But this

1292
01:10:48,135 --> 01:10:52,015
Speaker 4: is a great question. You'll understand the chuckle in this, Hey,

1293
01:10:52,095 --> 01:10:54,815
Speaker 4: Pete and the razine man. That's you, Bryce. I've got

1294
01:10:54,855 --> 01:10:57,855
Speaker 4: a house that's ten years old rock cot plastic exterior

1295
01:10:57,935 --> 01:11:01,615
Speaker 4: originally painted with Razine X two hundred when repainting. Should

1296
01:11:01,615 --> 01:11:03,455
Speaker 4: I use X two hundred again? Or is there a

1297
01:11:03,495 --> 01:11:05,935
Speaker 4: better product? And when do I? And do I need

1298
01:11:05,935 --> 01:11:06,775
Speaker 4: one or two?

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01:11:07,095 --> 01:11:07,455
Speaker 6: Brian?

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01:11:07,615 --> 01:11:10,575
Speaker 4: Well, even I can say, Brian, there is no better

1301
01:11:10,615 --> 01:11:12,215
Speaker 4: product than razine X two hundred.

1302
01:11:12,255 --> 01:11:15,975
Speaker 6: So I sure ever ever had an issue with X

1303
01:11:16,015 --> 01:11:20,695
Speaker 6: two hundred. Yeah, and I've been with razine for thty

1304
01:11:20,775 --> 01:11:24,695
Speaker 6: odd years. Yep, it's a great product. Just you know,

1305
01:11:25,095 --> 01:11:27,095
Speaker 6: give it a good if its sound, give it a

1306
01:11:27,095 --> 01:11:31,055
Speaker 6: good wash down, yes, house wash and paint prep spot

1307
01:11:31,095 --> 01:11:34,015
Speaker 6: so many bear areas for shoe seal and then recoate

1308
01:11:34,055 --> 01:11:36,135
Speaker 6: with X two hundreds and you won't have to worry

1309
01:11:36,175 --> 01:11:36,575
Speaker 6: about it.

1310
01:11:36,695 --> 01:11:40,175
Speaker 4: So typically, in terms of the recoat. Let's say it's

1311
01:11:40,175 --> 01:11:43,335
Speaker 4: been seven eight years since the other coat was applied.

1312
01:11:43,855 --> 01:11:47,095
Speaker 4: One coat or two coats or.

1313
01:11:47,215 --> 01:11:48,575
Speaker 6: Do two too?

1314
01:11:48,815 --> 01:11:52,935
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, absolutely, while you're up there for sure right

1315
01:11:52,975 --> 01:11:55,135
Speaker 4: talking about washing houses, which I think is a great idea.

1316
01:11:55,175 --> 01:11:57,655
Speaker 4: We've got a new house with some bricks, some exotic

1317
01:11:57,975 --> 01:12:01,175
Speaker 4: exotech for sad panels, hardy sheets, and cedar so real

1318
01:12:01,215 --> 01:12:06,215
Speaker 4: mixture as the exterior cladding. What do we use for

1319
01:12:06,295 --> 01:12:08,215
Speaker 4: we want to wash the house down annually? And I

1320
01:12:08,255 --> 01:12:11,415
Speaker 4: think mark for the first thing fantastic that you want

1321
01:12:11,415 --> 01:12:13,535
Speaker 4: to wash it down annually, because that's what we all

1322
01:12:13,535 --> 01:12:16,175
Speaker 4: should be doing. So this is a real mixture, isn't it?

1323
01:12:16,215 --> 01:12:21,575
Speaker 4: Brick Exotech, hard ease and some cedar exterior house wash.

1324
01:12:21,815 --> 01:12:23,335
Speaker 4: What have you guys got.

1325
01:12:23,415 --> 01:12:26,775
Speaker 6: House washing paint prep? Okay, yes, or even there were

1326
01:12:26,815 --> 01:12:30,695
Speaker 6: even just we've got a product called deep clean. You

1327
01:12:30,735 --> 01:12:34,415
Speaker 6: can just give that a good hose down, Yes, apply

1328
01:12:34,535 --> 01:12:39,775
Speaker 6: that with an applicator and let that sit for a

1329
01:12:39,855 --> 01:12:41,575
Speaker 6: while and then just give it a wash down with

1330
01:12:41,615 --> 01:12:45,655
Speaker 6: clean water. But house washing paint prep, you know you

1331
01:12:45,695 --> 01:12:48,015
Speaker 6: can use that with a soft bristle broom. Yes, give

1332
01:12:48,055 --> 01:12:50,695
Speaker 6: it a good scrub down. It'll do all those surfaces

1333
01:12:50,735 --> 01:12:54,575
Speaker 6: for you. Yeah, fantastic, it'll just take all the chalking

1334
01:12:54,655 --> 01:12:56,375
Speaker 6: and anything else that might be there away.

1335
01:12:56,975 --> 01:13:01,055
Speaker 4: Yep, thankually, here's a good one too. Please ask Bryce.

1336
01:13:01,135 --> 01:13:04,415
Speaker 4: Does paint go off? We've got a leftover paint sitting

1337
01:13:04,455 --> 01:13:06,495
Speaker 4: in our shed for eight years after we moved into

1338
01:13:06,535 --> 01:13:10,255
Speaker 4: the house. That's from Ann. Does paint go off?

1339
01:13:11,055 --> 01:13:14,055
Speaker 6: It does? Yeah, I mean, you know, after a while,

1340
01:13:14,135 --> 01:13:18,375
Speaker 6: if it hasn't been stored correctly, or if you air

1341
01:13:18,455 --> 01:13:20,815
Speaker 6: has actually got into the bucket or something like that,

1342
01:13:20,815 --> 01:13:23,735
Speaker 6: it'll you'll probably find it's got a big skin on

1343
01:13:23,775 --> 01:13:27,495
Speaker 6: the top of it, any big chunks around and stuff

1344
01:13:27,535 --> 01:13:31,335
Speaker 6: like that. If you're worried about it, just bring the

1345
01:13:31,375 --> 01:13:34,615
Speaker 6: bucket back into one of our color shops and we'll

1346
01:13:34,655 --> 01:13:37,495
Speaker 6: recycle it for you. Yes, by yourself a new bucket.

1347
01:13:37,615 --> 01:13:43,295
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, eight years is a long time. I'm not

1348
01:13:43,335 --> 01:13:45,095
Speaker 4: sure if I should say this on air, but I

1349
01:13:45,135 --> 01:13:51,575
Speaker 4: will anyway. So we painted our place as I'm only

1350
01:13:51,575 --> 01:13:55,415
Speaker 4: prompted to know this because it's on I wrote the

1351
01:13:55,535 --> 01:14:00,895
Speaker 4: date on the tin with sonics in twenty seventeen. Right,

1352
01:14:00,935 --> 01:14:04,535
Speaker 4: So stripped the whole house back prime top coated the

1353
01:14:04,535 --> 01:14:07,415
Speaker 4: whole whole shebang and of course at the end of

1354
01:14:07,415 --> 01:14:09,015
Speaker 4: the job there's always a little bit of paint left

1355
01:14:09,015 --> 01:14:12,095
Speaker 4: over it which has sat underneath my work bench. And

1356
01:14:12,175 --> 01:14:14,255
Speaker 4: I got that ten lid pail of sonics out the

1357
01:14:14,335 --> 01:14:17,735
Speaker 4: other day with twenty seventeen written in my own handwriting

1358
01:14:17,775 --> 01:14:20,455
Speaker 4: on the side. Gave it a good stir and a shake,

1359
01:14:20,535 --> 01:14:22,135
Speaker 4: and I just I was just doing a little bit

1360
01:14:22,135 --> 01:14:23,975
Speaker 4: of patch up and it was still okay. I think

1361
01:14:24,015 --> 01:14:26,615
Speaker 4: I'm lucky, and I certainly won't be using it on

1362
01:14:26,695 --> 01:14:29,295
Speaker 4: the main house and all the rest of it. But yeah,

1363
01:14:29,335 --> 01:14:31,855
Speaker 4: if you look after it, it's surprising how long it lasts.

1364
01:14:31,895 --> 01:14:34,615
Speaker 4: But maybe I'm pushing my luck, aren't in terms.

1365
01:14:34,415 --> 01:14:39,015
Speaker 6: Of yeah, well, it just it basically depends on the storage.

1366
01:14:39,415 --> 01:14:41,335
Speaker 6: A lot of things come into it, like heat and

1367
01:14:41,375 --> 01:14:45,535
Speaker 6: all that. It's in the shed for instance, And yeah,

1368
01:14:45,655 --> 01:14:50,055
Speaker 6: it could it could cook it. I mean, yeah, you know,

1369
01:14:50,255 --> 01:14:53,495
Speaker 6: just check it before you use it, and if you've

1370
01:14:53,615 --> 01:14:55,335
Speaker 6: got the slightest worry about it.

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01:14:56,375 --> 01:14:58,935
Speaker 4: And sometimes it'll smell too, isn't it. If you pull

1372
01:14:58,975 --> 01:15:00,935
Speaker 4: the lid off and it smells like rotten eggs, then

1373
01:15:00,975 --> 01:15:02,175
Speaker 4: the paint's gone off.

1374
01:15:02,975 --> 01:15:11,015
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that can happen, right, And just to smelt

1375
01:15:11,055 --> 01:15:12,775
Speaker 6: jim stopping compounded.

1376
01:15:14,175 --> 01:15:21,975
Speaker 4: That things too high? Heaven doesn't it? Four? Oh sorry,

1377
01:15:21,975 --> 01:15:25,855
Speaker 4: Oh that's classic, right, super quick couple of texts. Patches

1378
01:15:25,895 --> 01:15:28,335
Speaker 4: of rust appearing on the ridge flashing on a painted

1379
01:15:28,415 --> 01:15:32,175
Speaker 4: galvanized iron roof in a coastal area, How to trink

1380
01:15:32,175 --> 01:15:34,695
Speaker 4: the rust and what type of preparation before repainting.

1381
01:15:35,895 --> 01:15:38,935
Speaker 6: Okay, we'll get yourself something similar to a pot scrubber,

1382
01:15:38,935 --> 01:15:42,455
Speaker 6: one of those green sort of synthetic pads that you

1383
01:15:42,575 --> 01:15:48,135
Speaker 6: use for scrubbing your pots and pans. There is there

1384
01:15:48,255 --> 01:15:50,175
Speaker 6: there are a lot gentler on the roof surface and

1385
01:15:50,215 --> 01:15:54,575
Speaker 6: a wire brush. Ye use that roof and metal wash

1386
01:15:54,775 --> 01:15:58,935
Speaker 6: combined and just remove any loose surface rust or anything

1387
01:15:59,015 --> 01:16:03,655
Speaker 6: like that. Back to sound areas and spot prime those

1388
01:16:04,055 --> 01:16:10,255
Speaker 6: especially in a marine area or coastal area. Use spy'd

1389
01:16:10,375 --> 01:16:13,255
Speaker 6: spot prime those who'd productive our school's arm a zinc

1390
01:16:13,335 --> 01:16:17,855
Speaker 6: one tent, which is a zinc rich primer, and then

1391
01:16:18,975 --> 01:16:21,975
Speaker 6: depending on the condition of the roof, I would probably

1392
01:16:22,055 --> 01:16:23,575
Speaker 6: consider giving it a full cat to go.

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01:16:23,695 --> 01:16:27,615
Speaker 4: And I was, yeah, okay, perfect, that's great.

1394
01:16:27,815 --> 01:16:30,815
Speaker 6: You know, every day before you start, if you're in

1395
01:16:30,815 --> 01:16:32,975
Speaker 6: a coastal area, you've got to wash the surface down

1396
01:16:33,095 --> 01:16:34,495
Speaker 6: because it will be covered in salt.

1397
01:16:35,215 --> 01:16:38,735
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, and again wash it and get onto the painting.

1398
01:16:38,775 --> 01:16:40,495
Speaker 4: It's not like you wash it one weekend and come

1399
01:16:40,535 --> 01:16:42,375
Speaker 4: back two three weeks later to do the.

1400
01:16:42,335 --> 01:16:46,415
Speaker 6: Paint application basic basically every morning. Yeah, yeah, before the

1401
01:16:46,455 --> 01:16:48,855
Speaker 6: sun comes up. Get a quick hose down, get the

1402
01:16:48,855 --> 01:16:49,615
Speaker 6: salt off.

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01:16:54,895 --> 01:16:59,495
Speaker 4: We've done the cleaning. Last one. To finish up with

1404
01:16:59,935 --> 01:17:03,975
Speaker 4: some wooden garden trellis. I'd like to paint it white, Kraky,

1405
01:17:04,095 --> 01:17:06,575
Speaker 4: what product do you recommend I use? So you know,

1406
01:17:06,655 --> 01:17:10,495
Speaker 4: ten leosed timber. Obviously garden trellis going to be outside.

1407
01:17:11,455 --> 01:17:14,815
Speaker 4: Just stand the quick drying, a top coat.

1408
01:17:15,375 --> 01:17:19,215
Speaker 6: It's nothing special, yeah, you know, no offense, but it's

1409
01:17:19,295 --> 01:17:22,175
Speaker 6: just chealous. You know. You know you don't want to

1410
01:17:22,215 --> 01:17:25,655
Speaker 6: spend too much time on it, but if you want

1411
01:17:25,695 --> 01:17:28,215
Speaker 6: to go the whole hog, then I would. I would

1412
01:17:28,335 --> 01:17:30,935
Speaker 6: use an oil based wood prime and a couple of

1413
01:17:30,935 --> 01:17:36,175
Speaker 6: coats a lumbersider. Failing that, you know, if it's in

1414
01:17:36,255 --> 01:17:39,015
Speaker 6: good condition, you know, no sign of rotting or anything

1415
01:17:39,095 --> 01:17:41,415
Speaker 6: like that, then two coats of lumbersider and you might

1416
01:17:41,455 --> 01:17:42,575
Speaker 6: want to spray it as well.

1417
01:17:42,775 --> 01:17:46,895
Speaker 4: Yeah, all those nooks and crannies, criky, drive your ma

1418
01:17:47,095 --> 01:17:51,135
Speaker 4: wouldn't thank you building.

1419
01:17:51,135 --> 01:17:51,935
Speaker 6: That's for sure.

1420
01:17:53,415 --> 01:17:56,255
Speaker 4: A lesson in patience and determination. That's what that is.

1421
01:17:58,015 --> 01:17:59,975
Speaker 4: All of this, mate, lovely to talk to you today.

1422
01:18:00,175 --> 01:18:02,335
Speaker 4: Thanks very much for your advice today and to get

1423
01:18:02,335 --> 01:18:04,695
Speaker 4: all the good advice and the right tips and trips

1424
01:18:04,775 --> 01:18:07,375
Speaker 4: and the right product. Make sure you talk to the

1425
01:18:07,375 --> 01:18:10,215
Speaker 4: experts at Razine Color Shop. It was a great session

1426
01:18:10,255 --> 01:18:12,775
Speaker 4: with Bryce this morning. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1427
01:18:12,815 --> 01:18:15,095
Speaker 4: We can take a couple more calls before the news

1428
01:18:15,175 --> 01:18:17,535
Speaker 4: at eight o'clock. After the news at eight o'clock will

1429
01:18:17,535 --> 01:18:20,175
Speaker 4: be chatting with Charlotte mceowan from one Tree Hill College.

1430
01:18:20,375 --> 01:18:24,415
Speaker 4: This is the school in Auckland that have done the refurbishment.

1431
01:18:24,495 --> 01:18:26,535
Speaker 4: I love that sign. Can you hear that in the background.

1432
01:18:27,095 --> 01:18:33,335
Speaker 4: So here in the zb MZDME office the Herald not

1433
01:18:33,415 --> 01:18:35,855
Speaker 4: too far from us, in the studio and they're doing

1434
01:18:35,895 --> 01:18:38,175
Speaker 4: some stuff. They're going to do online content which is

1435
01:18:38,255 --> 01:18:41,975
Speaker 4: kind of exciting, and so they're rebuilding part of the

1436
01:18:41,975 --> 01:18:45,775
Speaker 4: studio and the builder who's up there is obviously using

1437
01:18:45,775 --> 01:18:49,295
Speaker 4: a rotary hammer drill to do some fixings into concrete.

1438
01:18:49,335 --> 01:18:52,215
Speaker 4: And I can hear the sound in my headphones very nostalgic.

1439
01:18:52,295 --> 01:18:54,375
Speaker 4: Makes me feel like I'm actually on a building site,

1440
01:18:54,375 --> 01:18:56,455
Speaker 4: which I kind of am. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

1441
01:18:56,535 --> 01:18:58,895
Speaker 4: eighty gives a call. We'll talk up till eight o'clock.

1442
01:18:58,935 --> 01:19:01,735
Speaker 4: Then we're going to talk building and schools and trade

1443
01:19:01,735 --> 01:19:04,895
Speaker 4: training with Charlotte mceowan from one Tree Hill College after eight.

1444
01:19:04,975 --> 01:19:07,855
Speaker 4: And then of course, as always, we're into the garden

1445
01:19:07,855 --> 01:19:10,215
Speaker 4: with a hood coming pass from eight point thirty this morning.

1446
01:19:10,335 --> 01:19:14,175
Speaker 4: Back in the month twice god once but maybe called

1447
01:19:14,215 --> 01:19:17,775
Speaker 4: Pete first fee Worcab the resident builder news talks, they'd

1448
01:19:17,815 --> 01:19:21,615
Speaker 4: be news talks. They'd be we're talking all things building

1449
01:19:21,655 --> 01:19:24,335
Speaker 4: actually quick texts that's just come through Pete. I've been

1450
01:19:24,375 --> 01:19:26,495
Speaker 4: told off and being told it's illegal to work on

1451
01:19:26,535 --> 01:19:28,455
Speaker 4: Sundays as a tyler. How does your guy get away

1452
01:19:28,495 --> 01:19:30,335
Speaker 4: from it in the studio. Well, he's not in the studio,

1453
01:19:30,335 --> 01:19:34,535
Speaker 4: he's about twenty meters down the corridor, and yes they

1454
01:19:34,535 --> 01:19:36,175
Speaker 4: are working. Well, of course you work on a Sunday.

1455
01:19:36,215 --> 01:19:39,175
Speaker 4: It's the least disruptive time and commercial is different to residential.

1456
01:19:39,615 --> 01:19:42,375
Speaker 4: So look, you as a tyler out there grinding and

1457
01:19:42,375 --> 01:19:44,175
Speaker 4: all the rest of it on a Sunday morning, of

1458
01:19:44,175 --> 01:19:45,615
Speaker 4: course you're going to get told off. And told to

1459
01:19:45,615 --> 01:19:49,375
Speaker 4: go home. But this is slightly different than being in

1460
01:19:49,415 --> 01:19:51,135
Speaker 4: the building and the only people are impact there are

1461
01:19:51,215 --> 01:19:53,895
Speaker 4: people that already know about it and essentially have given

1462
01:19:53,895 --> 01:19:56,055
Speaker 4: their permission too. So that's the other thing. And I

1463
01:19:56,095 --> 01:20:01,615
Speaker 4: love this other text that came through. I've always felt,

1464
01:20:02,495 --> 01:20:05,575
Speaker 4: says the Texter that a good trades person, a good tradesman,

1465
01:20:05,855 --> 01:20:09,255
Speaker 4: will have well maintain tools. So therefore a bad tradesman

1466
01:20:09,375 --> 01:20:14,255
Speaker 4: will blame their tools. Very wise, very wise, young Jedi's

1467
01:20:14,375 --> 01:20:15,935
Speaker 4: that's quite insightful.

1468
01:20:16,215 --> 01:20:20,895
Speaker 15: Ian, Good morning morning, is you better, Peter? My uncle

1469
01:20:20,895 --> 01:20:24,495
Speaker 15: and aunt were Tom and Joe and Pedlow who lived

1470
01:20:24,495 --> 01:20:28,135
Speaker 15: in Hawk's Bay at Napier there on the hill Brewsters Street.

1471
01:20:28,935 --> 01:20:33,535
Speaker 15: He was an old age shore builder between nineteen twenty

1472
01:20:33,615 --> 01:20:37,455
Speaker 15: and nineteen twenty and his motto was when I built

1473
01:20:37,495 --> 01:20:40,855
Speaker 15: a house, that stayed built.

1474
01:20:40,895 --> 01:20:42,295
Speaker 8: It's all his houses.

1475
01:20:42,415 --> 01:20:45,775
Speaker 15: Everyone that I spoke to that I knew that Tom

1476
01:20:45,815 --> 01:20:49,615
Speaker 15: built a home for claimed that their house survived the earthquake,

1477
01:20:50,775 --> 01:20:53,335
Speaker 15: which is impressive, including his own one on the hill

1478
01:20:53,335 --> 01:20:54,135
Speaker 15: on Bruces Street.

1479
01:20:55,055 --> 01:20:56,215
Speaker 8: Yeah, so he.

1480
01:20:58,055 --> 01:21:00,975
Speaker 15: Had no leaky rooms in any trouble with his houses.

1481
01:21:01,615 --> 01:21:06,535
Speaker 15: He took his time. He owned TG TG Pedlow and

1482
01:21:07,495 --> 01:21:10,855
Speaker 15: for a mon roster, not munrows trip anyway to here.

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01:21:11,815 --> 01:21:14,015
Speaker 15: And he was he was in business basically for close

1484
01:21:14,055 --> 01:21:16,735
Speaker 15: to three decades, thirty years, right. So he died of

1485
01:21:16,855 --> 01:21:19,695
Speaker 15: nineteen fifty three, far through young, merely ten. When he

1486
01:21:19,735 --> 01:21:22,415
Speaker 15: did there's a shawman never really got an arm. He

1487
01:21:22,575 --> 01:21:25,815
Speaker 15: was agree with an A grade A grade level builder.

1488
01:21:27,655 --> 01:21:30,375
Speaker 4: Look, I think the one thing that that probably has

1489
01:21:30,415 --> 01:21:32,775
Speaker 4: stood out to me most in all of the years

1490
01:21:32,775 --> 01:21:35,935
Speaker 4: that I've been doing it is quality work always lasts right.

1491
01:21:36,055 --> 01:21:40,615
Speaker 4: And I think sometimes whether it's a modern thing or

1492
01:21:40,615 --> 01:21:43,455
Speaker 4: it's always been around, there's often a real focus on

1493
01:21:43,735 --> 01:21:46,815
Speaker 4: I'm just getting the job done right. So we're working

1494
01:21:46,855 --> 01:21:48,855
Speaker 4: on something, we've got this horizon which is kind of

1495
01:21:48,895 --> 01:21:51,175
Speaker 4: the end of the day or the end of the project.

1496
01:21:51,375 --> 01:21:54,975
Speaker 4: And given that most of what we do as builders

1497
01:21:55,015 --> 01:21:57,815
Speaker 4: and as lbps in terms of structure, needs to survive

1498
01:21:57,855 --> 01:22:00,135
Speaker 4: for fifty years, but really we should have a much

1499
01:22:00,215 --> 01:22:02,895
Speaker 4: longer view than that. You know, we should be thinking

1500
01:22:03,015 --> 01:22:05,095
Speaker 4: when we're working on something, is this going to be

1501
01:22:05,135 --> 01:22:08,935
Speaker 4: good for seventy five years, one hundred years? I mean

1502
01:22:08,935 --> 01:22:11,775
Speaker 4: my house is what about one hundred and twenty years old? Right,

1503
01:22:12,055 --> 01:22:14,495
Speaker 4: I'd like to think that the carpenters that worked on

1504
01:22:14,535 --> 01:22:17,335
Speaker 4: that back in nineteen oh five thereabouts, I don't know

1505
01:22:17,375 --> 01:22:21,855
Speaker 4: the exact date, were whether they had an appreciation or

1506
01:22:21,855 --> 01:22:25,175
Speaker 4: could see or sense that their work was going to

1507
01:22:25,175 --> 01:22:28,175
Speaker 4: be around one hundred and twenty years later. And if

1508
01:22:28,215 --> 01:22:30,255
Speaker 4: you're building a new house today, are you thinking about

1509
01:22:30,295 --> 01:22:33,455
Speaker 4: it being there one hundred and twenty years I think

1510
01:22:33,455 --> 01:22:35,655
Speaker 4: if you did, you'd probably have quite a different view.

1511
01:22:35,695 --> 01:22:38,615
Speaker 1: Back after the news doing of the house, storting the

1512
01:22:38,655 --> 01:22:41,895
Speaker 1: Garden asked Pete for a hand the resident builder with

1513
01:22:41,935 --> 01:22:45,895
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcap call oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty news talks, 'vy.

1514
01:22:47,495 --> 01:22:49,375
Speaker 4: Your news talks. They'd be welcome back to the show.

1515
01:22:49,455 --> 01:22:52,335
Speaker 4: It has just gone six and a half minutes after

1516
01:22:52,455 --> 01:22:55,695
Speaker 4: eight on a Sunday morning, crikey, second day of March already,

1517
01:22:55,735 --> 01:22:58,335
Speaker 4: So the year has taken along. It's been a great

1518
01:22:58,335 --> 01:23:02,295
Speaker 4: show thus far in terms of conversation, great time with Bryce,

1519
01:23:02,335 --> 01:23:06,495
Speaker 4: some really good questions there. One of the highlights of

1520
01:23:06,535 --> 01:23:09,695
Speaker 4: my week, to be really really honest, was being invited

1521
01:23:09,735 --> 01:23:12,735
Speaker 4: to go out to one Tree Hill College, which is

1522
01:23:12,775 --> 01:23:16,615
Speaker 4: in sort of central Auckland, and it's a project that

1523
01:23:16,655 --> 01:23:19,295
Speaker 4: I've sort of had some insight into for the last

1524
01:23:19,295 --> 01:23:22,495
Speaker 4: little while, there were some old houses which are part

1525
01:23:22,535 --> 01:23:26,495
Speaker 4: of the development of the busway along the Eastern Corridor

1526
01:23:26,855 --> 01:23:29,935
Speaker 4: in Auckland, and instead of the houses being just demolished

1527
01:23:29,935 --> 01:23:33,255
Speaker 4: and sent to landfill, some of them were repurposed. One

1528
01:23:33,335 --> 01:23:36,575
Speaker 4: of those houses was trucked across to one Tree Hill

1529
01:23:36,615 --> 01:23:40,775
Speaker 4: College where the students and staff and professional builders and

1530
01:23:40,815 --> 01:23:44,135
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of very generous companies have been engaged

1531
01:23:44,175 --> 01:23:47,495
Speaker 4: in refurbishing that building. And so on Monday there was

1532
01:23:47,535 --> 01:23:51,095
Speaker 4: kind of the official opening of the building and that

1533
01:23:51,135 --> 01:23:53,695
Speaker 4: building is now available for sale. You can have a

1534
01:23:53,695 --> 01:23:56,815
Speaker 4: look online find the listing and it's also on the

1535
01:23:56,815 --> 01:24:02,535
Speaker 4: Bathet and Thompson website. Which a great project. In the end,

1536
01:24:02,655 --> 01:24:07,015
Speaker 4: I know that these projects always need someone drying them,

1537
01:24:07,175 --> 01:24:11,015
Speaker 4: and that person is my guest this morning, Charlotte mcchewn.

1538
01:24:11,135 --> 01:24:14,375
Speaker 4: Thank you very much. So your title is teacher in

1539
01:24:14,535 --> 01:24:19,775
Speaker 4: charge of Trade training. What does that mean? Well, thank you, welcome.

1540
01:24:19,575 --> 01:24:21,015
Speaker 3: Well, thank you great to be here.

1541
01:24:21,055 --> 01:24:21,415
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1542
01:24:21,935 --> 01:24:22,135
Speaker 3: So.

1543
01:24:22,455 --> 01:24:25,415
Speaker 16: Teacher in charge of training for trades means that I'm

1544
01:24:25,455 --> 01:24:27,975
Speaker 16: responsible for one hundred and ten students that we have

1545
01:24:28,055 --> 01:24:31,415
Speaker 16: in our Level one, two and three bc ITO program

1546
01:24:31,495 --> 01:24:34,975
Speaker 16: at Onetre Hill College and I'm responsible for how they

1547
01:24:34,975 --> 01:24:37,055
Speaker 16: get into trade and how they get an apprenticeship.

1548
01:24:37,575 --> 01:24:39,735
Speaker 4: So just go into the details of that. This is

1549
01:24:39,775 --> 01:24:45,135
Speaker 4: an opportunity for students at the college to start their

1550
01:24:45,575 --> 01:24:49,895
Speaker 4: pre trade qualification while still at school and still doing

1551
01:24:49,935 --> 01:24:51,655
Speaker 4: other NCAA subjects as well.

1552
01:24:51,815 --> 01:24:52,455
Speaker 3: That's correct.

1553
01:24:52,455 --> 01:24:54,855
Speaker 16: So at level one and two the students are opting

1554
01:24:54,935 --> 01:24:59,575
Speaker 16: to do BCO unit standards as well as the NCAA standards.

1555
01:24:59,855 --> 01:25:03,255
Speaker 16: But at level three they actually move into the Trade Academy,

1556
01:25:03,295 --> 01:25:07,055
Speaker 16: which means that they fully focus on the beecats BCO

1557
01:25:07,255 --> 01:25:09,815
Speaker 16: unit standards, so that they are actually getting a few

1558
01:25:09,895 --> 01:25:13,615
Speaker 16: unit standards under their belt before they start their apprenticeship program.

1559
01:25:13,695 --> 01:25:15,975
Speaker 16: So they're already doing it online, which is the way

1560
01:25:16,015 --> 01:25:18,655
Speaker 16: that BCITO does it. So you've got that platform set

1561
01:25:18,735 --> 01:25:21,255
Speaker 16: up and then they can seamlessly move into that as

1562
01:25:21,295 --> 01:25:23,535
Speaker 16: we transition them into an apprenticeship.

1563
01:25:24,575 --> 01:25:26,695
Speaker 4: Am I right in assuming that prior to having the

1564
01:25:26,735 --> 01:25:29,815
Speaker 4: house on site to be able to do some practical work,

1565
01:25:30,455 --> 01:25:32,735
Speaker 4: if they did do some practical stuff, it would be

1566
01:25:32,895 --> 01:25:35,815
Speaker 4: let's say, in the workshop, right, you know, and so

1567
01:25:36,535 --> 01:25:39,295
Speaker 4: we all remember making pencil cases and maybe making a

1568
01:25:39,335 --> 01:25:45,175
Speaker 4: sawhorse and that sort of spice. I absolutely, but suddenly

1569
01:25:45,215 --> 01:25:48,255
Speaker 4: the students have an opportunity to be effectively on a

1570
01:25:48,255 --> 01:25:50,895
Speaker 4: construction site. One of the young men that I spoke with,

1571
01:25:51,055 --> 01:25:53,815
Speaker 4: he talked about working on the demolition, so helping strip

1572
01:25:53,815 --> 01:25:56,815
Speaker 4: the house out. Then he was heavily involved in the insulation.

1573
01:25:57,215 --> 01:26:00,615
Speaker 4: Other students were talking about working alongside the tyler. How

1574
01:26:00,655 --> 01:26:03,175
Speaker 4: does it just step me through the process. How does

1575
01:26:03,175 --> 01:26:05,615
Speaker 4: it work for your students to be in that dynamic

1576
01:26:05,695 --> 01:26:07,455
Speaker 4: environment a real building site.

1577
01:26:07,575 --> 01:26:10,215
Speaker 16: Well, we're really fortunate that when we have twenty we

1578
01:26:10,255 --> 01:26:12,415
Speaker 16: have twenty students in our trade academy and when they

1579
01:26:12,575 --> 01:26:15,295
Speaker 16: come in we're just on a regular class timetable. We

1580
01:26:15,335 --> 01:26:17,295
Speaker 16: don't have them all day, so just run it as

1581
01:26:17,295 --> 01:26:20,215
Speaker 16: a regular class. They'll come into the workshop. I'll have

1582
01:26:20,255 --> 01:26:22,695
Speaker 16: written on the board what we're what we've got going

1583
01:26:22,735 --> 01:26:24,055
Speaker 16: on in the house of the builder. We've got a

1584
01:26:24,055 --> 01:26:26,895
Speaker 16: licensed builder on site. We'll say, hey, I've got roofing

1585
01:26:26,975 --> 01:26:29,695
Speaker 16: here today. I need four people out there with me.

1586
01:26:29,975 --> 01:26:31,655
Speaker 16: And I'll say, well, this is what we've got to

1587
01:26:31,655 --> 01:26:34,215
Speaker 16: get done on our unit standards work the moment. We're

1588
01:26:34,215 --> 01:26:37,295
Speaker 16: building sofas, for example, and I'll say, okay, who wants

1589
01:26:37,295 --> 01:26:38,375
Speaker 16: to go out to the house and a couple will

1590
01:26:38,415 --> 01:26:40,855
Speaker 16: throw their hands up. They'll move round to the side

1591
01:26:40,855 --> 01:26:42,895
Speaker 16: of the workshop, put on their boots and their hivers.

1592
01:26:43,255 --> 01:26:44,815
Speaker 3: They'll trot outside.

1593
01:26:44,375 --> 01:26:46,455
Speaker 16: To the house which is just just across the way

1594
01:26:46,855 --> 01:26:48,575
Speaker 16: and get underway so they can have that one on

1595
01:26:48,575 --> 01:26:51,255
Speaker 16: one with the builder and whoever else is on site,

1596
01:26:51,615 --> 01:26:53,735
Speaker 16: and then the rest will keep going with their unit

1597
01:26:53,815 --> 01:26:55,895
Speaker 16: standard work. But they need to be aware that they

1598
01:26:55,935 --> 01:26:57,735
Speaker 16: can't be on the house all the time because I've

1599
01:26:57,775 --> 01:26:59,735
Speaker 16: still got to get this other other work done. So

1600
01:26:59,735 --> 01:27:02,815
Speaker 16: this get to manage what they're doing. They can stay

1601
01:27:02,855 --> 01:27:06,135
Speaker 16: because they're in a trade academy with other trade academy

1602
01:27:06,495 --> 01:27:09,175
Speaker 16: teachers if they want to stay, Like Alisha with the

1603
01:27:09,215 --> 01:27:11,695
Speaker 16: tiles the other week, she stayed for most of the

1604
01:27:11,775 --> 01:27:14,455
Speaker 16: day to be with Tyler Ayas and the teachers are

1605
01:27:14,495 --> 01:27:16,815
Speaker 16: able to be flexible with that so that she can

1606
01:27:16,855 --> 01:27:19,095
Speaker 16: get that experience of that that's running well. And if

1607
01:27:19,135 --> 01:27:21,655
Speaker 16: Tyler's able to stay, great, they can stay with them.

1608
01:27:21,695 --> 01:27:26,415
Speaker 16: So there's an opportunity to get these bigger experiences. And

1609
01:27:26,615 --> 01:27:29,535
Speaker 16: it's an organic experience. It's not so set in stone,

1610
01:27:29,535 --> 01:27:30,655
Speaker 16: and how lucky are we for that?

1611
01:27:31,735 --> 01:27:34,815
Speaker 4: And I'm guessing too in terms of trade training, it's

1612
01:27:34,855 --> 01:27:37,655
Speaker 4: an insight into the wide variety because typically, if you're

1613
01:27:37,655 --> 01:27:40,455
Speaker 4: talking trade training with young people, you're thinking about the

1614
01:27:40,735 --> 01:27:43,295
Speaker 4: big trades. Right, I'm going to put carpentry at the top,

1615
01:27:43,295 --> 01:27:47,535
Speaker 4: but there's sparkys and plumbers and so on. But now

1616
01:27:48,215 --> 01:27:50,615
Speaker 4: do you get the sense that the young people themselves

1617
01:27:50,815 --> 01:27:53,695
Speaker 4: get an appreciation of the variety of work that goes

1618
01:27:53,815 --> 01:27:56,175
Speaker 4: into a building project and maybe things.

1619
01:27:56,015 --> 01:27:59,135
Speaker 16: That they didn't know existed or rules related to the

1620
01:27:59,135 --> 01:28:02,055
Speaker 16: building code. So one of the parts of the project

1621
01:28:02,135 --> 01:28:04,175
Speaker 16: that we had to work on quite extensively was the

1622
01:28:04,215 --> 01:28:09,495
Speaker 16: water proofing. Yes, an island sink in our house, and

1623
01:28:09,535 --> 01:28:11,295
Speaker 16: of course we need to work with that one point

1624
01:28:11,335 --> 01:28:15,655
Speaker 16: five meter special Yeah, so with this lovely floor by Lovitch,

1625
01:28:15,775 --> 01:28:18,575
Speaker 16: we don't want to put anything around here that creates

1626
01:28:19,015 --> 01:28:23,655
Speaker 16: the splash zone. So we use the Marpe waterproofing system

1627
01:28:23,695 --> 01:28:26,935
Speaker 16: and we water proved the entire living room, dining right

1628
01:28:27,015 --> 01:28:28,535
Speaker 16: up the hall so that we.

1629
01:28:28,455 --> 01:28:31,055
Speaker 3: Didn't have to do that. And that was obviously a

1630
01:28:31,135 --> 01:28:33,695
Speaker 3: huge learning curve for our building, for.

1631
01:28:33,695 --> 01:28:37,255
Speaker 16: Myself as an architectural student, but then for our students

1632
01:28:37,255 --> 01:28:39,055
Speaker 16: to understand, well, why are we doing this, Why is

1633
01:28:39,055 --> 01:28:41,615
Speaker 16: the floor blue, why is it looking like this? And

1634
01:28:42,095 --> 01:28:44,295
Speaker 16: the reasons behind that, so then we can reflect back

1635
01:28:44,295 --> 01:28:47,015
Speaker 16: to the building code and bring it back to why

1636
01:28:47,055 --> 01:28:48,615
Speaker 16: we're all here and what we're trying to do.

1637
01:28:48,855 --> 01:28:51,455
Speaker 4: Yeah. One of the things that struck me too was

1638
01:28:51,495 --> 01:28:53,415
Speaker 4: that some of the people who had been part of

1639
01:28:53,415 --> 01:28:57,535
Speaker 4: the trades academy at the school are now employed and

1640
01:28:57,575 --> 01:28:59,775
Speaker 4: employed by companies that have come back to support. So

1641
01:28:59,815 --> 01:29:02,455
Speaker 4: I happened to talk to Simon from Woods Glass right,

1642
01:29:03,375 --> 01:29:05,695
Speaker 4: and the story seems to be that some young students

1643
01:29:05,695 --> 01:29:08,295
Speaker 4: who was students who are part of the program last

1644
01:29:08,375 --> 01:29:12,415
Speaker 4: year are now currently employed as apprentices at that firm.

1645
01:29:12,775 --> 01:29:16,215
Speaker 4: Are you making those connections? Is that really useful as well?

1646
01:29:16,295 --> 01:29:16,495
Speaker 6: Well?

1647
01:29:16,535 --> 01:29:20,095
Speaker 16: Actually, as much as we certainly need the donations of product,

1648
01:29:20,175 --> 01:29:21,815
Speaker 16: that's our bigger goal is that.

1649
01:29:22,255 --> 01:29:23,335
Speaker 3: When the companies come in.

1650
01:29:23,375 --> 01:29:25,895
Speaker 16: And actually an example on Friday, I get an email

1651
01:29:25,935 --> 01:29:28,535
Speaker 16: from Green Gorilla, who is one of our supporters, who said, look,

1652
01:29:28,535 --> 01:29:32,455
Speaker 16: we're thinking about sustainability. How can we show the students

1653
01:29:32,455 --> 01:29:34,775
Speaker 16: that let's bring them to the plant, what walk them

1654
01:29:34,775 --> 01:29:37,015
Speaker 16: through it? And then what other opportunities are they for

1655
01:29:37,095 --> 01:29:40,655
Speaker 16: them here in Green Gorilla, What who might be interested

1656
01:29:40,695 --> 01:29:42,975
Speaker 16: in that? So as much as yes, we are so

1657
01:29:43,255 --> 01:29:46,455
Speaker 16: super grateful for their donation of product and knowledge. We

1658
01:29:46,575 --> 01:29:50,535
Speaker 16: are more interested in them saying, hey, we've got a

1659
01:29:50,615 --> 01:29:53,215
Speaker 16: program where we're training for shrim pikel came to us

1660
01:29:53,255 --> 01:29:56,815
Speaker 16: with that, how fantastic. And then we have these incredible

1661
01:29:56,815 --> 01:29:59,735
Speaker 16: connections in the community where we can say, hey, Johnny

1662
01:29:59,815 --> 01:30:02,615
Speaker 16: or Jenny are interested in that. Can we bring them

1663
01:30:02,615 --> 01:30:04,775
Speaker 16: out and we'll bring them out to the company, let

1664
01:30:04,775 --> 01:30:07,495
Speaker 16: them have a walk around, talk to them and make

1665
01:30:07,535 --> 01:30:09,375
Speaker 16: sure that it's a good fit for us. It's about

1666
01:30:09,375 --> 01:30:12,255
Speaker 16: a good fit because that's how we build the success.

1667
01:30:12,815 --> 01:30:15,095
Speaker 16: And in addition to making that good fit, the other

1668
01:30:15,135 --> 01:30:17,615
Speaker 16: thing that we are very focused on is adulting.

1669
01:30:18,255 --> 01:30:21,135
Speaker 3: So okay, yeah, our students.

1670
01:30:21,015 --> 01:30:25,815
Speaker 16: In the community generally are not maybe as well adulted

1671
01:30:26,015 --> 01:30:27,855
Speaker 16: as they could be, meaning that they don't know how

1672
01:30:27,895 --> 01:30:32,375
Speaker 16: to look at an adult who is maybe in a

1673
01:30:32,615 --> 01:30:36,975
Speaker 16: powerful position an employment. They don't know how to ask questions.

1674
01:30:37,055 --> 01:30:40,495
Speaker 16: They don't feel confident to say I'm actually not sure

1675
01:30:40,495 --> 01:30:42,495
Speaker 16: where that location is or if I can get there.

1676
01:30:42,935 --> 01:30:44,335
Speaker 16: I don't know if I can get there on time

1677
01:30:44,375 --> 01:30:47,375
Speaker 16: because I drop my sister to primary school before I come.

1678
01:30:47,895 --> 01:30:50,455
Speaker 16: They don't say that, or they didn't in the past

1679
01:30:50,495 --> 01:30:52,135
Speaker 16: say that, and then they would not turn up or

1680
01:30:52,135 --> 01:30:55,415
Speaker 16: they would be late. So we have an adulting program

1681
01:30:55,455 --> 01:30:58,815
Speaker 16: without RAP. It's called RAP. It's run by our rotary

1682
01:30:58,815 --> 01:31:01,855
Speaker 16: Penrose Rotary Program, and they meet with our students once

1683
01:31:01,855 --> 01:31:04,415
Speaker 16: a week, just during normal class time. It's nothing special,

1684
01:31:04,775 --> 01:31:08,735
Speaker 16: and a mentor's placed with two or three students and

1685
01:31:08,775 --> 01:31:11,255
Speaker 16: they are there to walk beside that student, so to

1686
01:31:11,375 --> 01:31:13,975
Speaker 16: understand how you're going out there? That's great, but how

1687
01:31:14,015 --> 01:31:15,735
Speaker 16: are you going to get there? Can you get there

1688
01:31:15,735 --> 01:31:17,215
Speaker 16: on time? What do you think you should be wearing?

1689
01:31:17,775 --> 01:31:17,855
Speaker 6: Have?

1690
01:31:18,375 --> 01:31:20,615
Speaker 16: Can you pack your lunch? Where our school that has

1691
01:31:20,615 --> 01:31:23,855
Speaker 16: a food program? Can you get a lunch together? Are

1692
01:31:23,855 --> 01:31:25,055
Speaker 16: you going to be able to get home in time

1693
01:31:25,095 --> 01:31:26,535
Speaker 16: for your sports practice?

1694
01:31:26,575 --> 01:31:26,775
Speaker 8: Okay?

1695
01:31:26,815 --> 01:31:28,295
Speaker 3: How can we work this out?

1696
01:31:28,615 --> 01:31:31,255
Speaker 16: And they do those very fine details that we as

1697
01:31:31,535 --> 01:31:32,815
Speaker 16: classroom teachers will.

1698
01:31:32,695 --> 01:31:33,575
Speaker 3: Never be able to do.

1699
01:31:33,895 --> 01:31:38,135
Speaker 16: Sure, So this mentoring program, I believe has been the difference.

1700
01:31:38,135 --> 01:31:40,615
Speaker 16: And it was with Woods Glass that we started this

1701
01:31:41,255 --> 01:31:44,055
Speaker 16: because they were our first big company and they took

1702
01:31:44,095 --> 01:31:48,135
Speaker 16: students and it was honestly, we were awful. We didn't

1703
01:31:48,175 --> 01:31:51,735
Speaker 16: turn up on time, you were late, we didn't talk.

1704
01:31:51,815 --> 01:31:55,695
Speaker 16: And this is when we recognized. I recognized with and

1705
01:31:55,895 --> 01:31:58,615
Speaker 16: Dumphy from the WRAP program.

1706
01:31:58,615 --> 01:32:02,975
Speaker 3: From Rotary that this is what we needed, was mentoring.

1707
01:32:03,055 --> 01:32:05,135
Speaker 16: And in our community we have a lot of people

1708
01:32:05,295 --> 01:32:08,135
Speaker 16: who can give up in our week through Rotary, that

1709
01:32:08,255 --> 01:32:11,535
Speaker 16: is a great bridge. And this has allowed our students

1710
01:32:11,615 --> 01:32:15,015
Speaker 16: to be able to talk confidently and feel good about

1711
01:32:15,015 --> 01:32:17,255
Speaker 16: being able to say what they need to say and

1712
01:32:17,335 --> 01:32:19,335
Speaker 16: support it so they may even practice doing a phone

1713
01:32:19,375 --> 01:32:22,095
Speaker 16: call to the company to introduce themselves. Those things are

1714
01:32:22,175 --> 01:32:24,895
Speaker 16: very difficult for our young people, and we feel that

1715
01:32:24,975 --> 01:32:26,095
Speaker 16: mentoring has overcome that.

1716
01:32:26,535 --> 01:32:29,895
Speaker 4: I think that's phenomenal in terms of its impact. So,

1717
01:32:30,455 --> 01:32:33,255
Speaker 4: you know, we as we get older, we criticize the

1718
01:32:33,295 --> 01:32:35,215
Speaker 4: younger generation and that sort of thing, but in the end,

1719
01:32:35,535 --> 01:32:37,615
Speaker 4: we've all got to learn these skills. Right, they don't

1720
01:32:37,655 --> 01:32:40,895
Speaker 4: just happen. And it's almost like you guys have figured

1721
01:32:40,895 --> 01:32:43,295
Speaker 4: that out and go, okay, so how do we teach

1722
01:32:43,415 --> 01:32:46,615
Speaker 4: these these skills in terms of fronting up, being on time,

1723
01:32:46,695 --> 01:32:48,455
Speaker 4: all of that sort of thing. It doesn't just happen.

1724
01:32:48,455 --> 01:32:49,895
Speaker 4: It's certain doesn't happen in a vacuum.

1725
01:32:49,895 --> 01:32:50,615
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen.

1726
01:32:50,655 --> 01:32:53,295
Speaker 16: But I think that what we were very fortunate is

1727
01:32:53,335 --> 01:32:55,255
Speaker 16: that instead of what saying to us, oh my goodness,

1728
01:32:55,255 --> 01:32:57,695
Speaker 16: what's wrong with you? They came back and said, hey, look,

1729
01:32:57,695 --> 01:32:59,815
Speaker 16: this one isn't doing this one, this one isn't doing that,

1730
01:33:00,215 --> 01:33:03,015
Speaker 16: and then we were able to partner and work through

1731
01:33:03,055 --> 01:33:06,055
Speaker 16: it together. Yep, and here they are still taking our

1732
01:33:06,095 --> 01:33:07,615
Speaker 16: peace people every year.

1733
01:33:07,815 --> 01:33:10,415
Speaker 4: Wow. So with me in the studio is Charlotte Mchow

1734
01:33:10,455 --> 01:33:13,255
Speaker 4: and his teacher in charge of trade. I just think

1735
01:33:13,295 --> 01:33:16,215
Speaker 4: that that title on your business card is just fantastic

1736
01:33:16,215 --> 01:33:20,615
Speaker 4: when it comes to secondary schools, right, because my own

1737
01:33:20,655 --> 01:33:22,815
Speaker 4: personal feeling is that I don't know that we've done

1738
01:33:22,815 --> 01:33:25,015
Speaker 4: a great job with trade training over the last thirty

1739
01:33:25,095 --> 01:33:28,375
Speaker 4: or forty years. And I guess I'm putting that timeline

1740
01:33:28,415 --> 01:33:31,255
Speaker 4: in because there was a vision back thirty or forty

1741
01:33:31,295 --> 01:33:33,935
Speaker 4: years ago where suddenly all of our jobs are going

1742
01:33:33,975 --> 01:33:36,095
Speaker 4: to be white collar. Right, we're moving into a digital

1743
01:33:36,215 --> 01:33:40,895
Speaker 4: environment blah blah blah blah blah. You know even AI, Right,

1744
01:33:40,935 --> 01:33:42,735
Speaker 4: they ain't going to come out and unblock your toilet.

1745
01:33:43,215 --> 01:33:47,375
Speaker 4: So I kind of feel that we've missed an opportunity

1746
01:33:47,415 --> 01:33:50,615
Speaker 4: with our generation of young people in terms of introducing

1747
01:33:50,655 --> 01:33:54,255
Speaker 4: them to life in the trades, which isn't always pleasant,

1748
01:33:54,335 --> 01:33:58,615
Speaker 4: isn't always easy, but I think ultimately can be really rewarding.

1749
01:33:58,815 --> 01:34:02,335
Speaker 4: Is that kind of what drives you that you've seen

1750
01:34:02,335 --> 01:34:03,015
Speaker 4: that insights.

1751
01:34:03,375 --> 01:34:07,255
Speaker 16: I think, gosh, what in a fantastic opportunity because trade

1752
01:34:07,335 --> 01:34:08,055
Speaker 16: can be just the.

1753
01:34:07,935 --> 01:34:10,255
Speaker 3: Beginning for us, at least an apprenticeship.

1754
01:34:10,255 --> 01:34:12,695
Speaker 16: It's the beginning, right, So we want them to get

1755
01:34:12,735 --> 01:34:15,135
Speaker 16: a qualification, so they've always got that to fall back

1756
01:34:15,135 --> 01:34:17,175
Speaker 16: on it like our parents don't. Ye got to have

1757
01:34:17,175 --> 01:34:19,735
Speaker 16: something to fall back on. And then from there, of

1758
01:34:19,775 --> 01:34:23,495
Speaker 16: course they can get greater qualifications. They can obviously run

1759
01:34:23,535 --> 01:34:26,135
Speaker 16: their own business, but if we can get them qualified

1760
01:34:26,135 --> 01:34:30,575
Speaker 16: with a skill that they can diversify from and make

1761
01:34:30,615 --> 01:34:33,935
Speaker 16: good friends and learn to work together. These are skills

1762
01:34:33,935 --> 01:34:36,935
Speaker 16: that are transferable. So what a great start. And then

1763
01:34:36,975 --> 01:34:38,895
Speaker 16: if you want to go into project management or something else,

1764
01:34:38,935 --> 01:34:39,575
Speaker 16: you go for yourself.

1765
01:34:39,615 --> 01:34:41,415
Speaker 3: But sure, at least let's get your started.

1766
01:34:41,495 --> 01:34:42,535
Speaker 4: It's a step on the ladder.

1767
01:34:42,575 --> 01:34:43,095
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1768
01:34:43,135 --> 01:34:43,735
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1769
01:34:43,855 --> 01:34:46,735
Speaker 4: The other thing that really impressed me about the building

1770
01:34:46,855 --> 01:34:50,615
Speaker 4: is you committed yourself to effectively sort of higher performance. Right,

1771
01:34:50,655 --> 01:34:53,295
Speaker 4: So this isn't let's just cobble it together and see

1772
01:34:53,295 --> 01:34:56,335
Speaker 4: what we end up with. You've gone through the home

1773
01:34:56,775 --> 01:35:00,375
Speaker 4: rating program. I saw Andrew Eagles there, Matthew Cutler Wealth,

1774
01:35:00,655 --> 01:35:02,255
Speaker 4: both of whom have been on the show a couple

1775
01:35:02,295 --> 01:35:05,415
Speaker 4: of times. I'm a huge I'm a homestar assessor from

1776
01:35:05,495 --> 01:35:07,935
Speaker 4: way back and all the so I think that it's

1777
01:35:07,975 --> 01:35:11,575
Speaker 4: a it's a fantastic project. What did you like? What

1778
01:35:11,655 --> 01:35:14,015
Speaker 4: did you need to do in order to achieve Home

1779
01:35:14,055 --> 01:35:16,015
Speaker 4: Star seven? Which is remarkable?

1780
01:35:16,095 --> 01:35:17,735
Speaker 16: Well, to be fair, we did think we were just

1781
01:35:17,775 --> 01:35:20,455
Speaker 16: doing a little old renovation. We never had this intention

1782
01:35:21,095 --> 01:35:24,695
Speaker 16: or absolutely not no way. So we were just going

1783
01:35:24,695 --> 01:35:26,335
Speaker 16: to do a little you know, do up. And that

1784
01:35:26,495 --> 01:35:28,535
Speaker 16: was great, and that was why I went to Woods

1785
01:35:28,615 --> 01:35:31,095
Speaker 16: Glass to ask them for their Yes, they left over windows,

1786
01:35:31,135 --> 01:35:34,375
Speaker 16: and they politely said we don't make those, but did

1787
01:35:34,415 --> 01:35:36,295
Speaker 16: come back and say, your apprentices can make.

1788
01:35:36,215 --> 01:35:37,175
Speaker 3: You whatever you want.

1789
01:35:37,255 --> 01:35:37,455
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1790
01:35:37,495 --> 01:35:37,775
Speaker 4: Sure.

1791
01:35:37,975 --> 01:35:40,015
Speaker 16: When they came back and said that, that's when we

1792
01:35:40,055 --> 01:35:43,815
Speaker 16: realized that actually, this isn't made up of your leftovers. Yep,

1793
01:35:43,855 --> 01:35:46,535
Speaker 16: this could be something. And it happened to tie in.

1794
01:35:46,735 --> 01:35:50,375
Speaker 16: Was at Auckland University. The lecturer lecture that I was

1795
01:35:50,375 --> 01:35:53,975
Speaker 16: at was talking about Home Star and I cantest said

1796
01:35:54,055 --> 01:35:55,615
Speaker 16: to the builder, Hey, what about this and he said,

1797
01:35:55,615 --> 01:35:56,495
Speaker 16: I don't know anything about it.

1798
01:35:56,575 --> 01:35:57,295
Speaker 3: Let's find out.

1799
01:35:57,775 --> 01:36:01,255
Speaker 16: Spoke to Matthew Cultwal she said, yea, if you can

1800
01:36:01,335 --> 01:36:03,695
Speaker 16: get over h one, which that's going to be a

1801
01:36:03,695 --> 01:36:07,135
Speaker 16: lot for a nineteen sixty eight, nineteen seventy in this condition,

1802
01:36:07,295 --> 01:36:09,895
Speaker 16: which has got to blow a door test of nineteen

1803
01:36:10,015 --> 01:36:14,815
Speaker 16: ear changes an hour. If you can get over age one, you'll.

1804
01:36:14,575 --> 01:36:15,255
Speaker 3: Have a show.

1805
01:36:15,895 --> 01:36:19,695
Speaker 16: And so, of course, being blissfully ignorant, I said, great,

1806
01:36:19,855 --> 01:36:23,055
Speaker 16: let's do it, and knowing that Kanga Aora at the

1807
01:36:23,095 --> 01:36:26,095
Speaker 16: time did have in their new stock Homestyle level six

1808
01:36:26,255 --> 01:36:29,415
Speaker 16: and they also had ten, I just randomly.

1809
01:36:29,015 --> 01:36:31,175
Speaker 4: Said let's do seven a test.

1810
01:36:31,455 --> 01:36:34,775
Speaker 16: But really, how that happens is that everyone pulls together.

1811
01:36:34,855 --> 01:36:37,175
Speaker 16: So Matthew says, hey, well you really need to talk

1812
01:36:37,215 --> 01:36:40,095
Speaker 16: to this person. You need to talk to Homestar designer,

1813
01:36:40,695 --> 01:36:42,815
Speaker 16: you need to me need to go and do this course,

1814
01:36:42,855 --> 01:36:47,175
Speaker 16: so and get that done. So it's about the community

1815
01:36:47,215 --> 01:36:51,455
Speaker 16: coming together and collectively solving the problem. I certainly didn't

1816
01:36:51,495 --> 01:36:53,735
Speaker 16: solve the problem. It was a large group of all

1817
01:36:53,775 --> 01:36:57,135
Speaker 16: of our sponsors of professionals, people who know what they're doing,

1818
01:36:57,175 --> 01:37:01,015
Speaker 16: all sharing together and collectively coming up with the solutions

1819
01:37:01,055 --> 01:37:03,295
Speaker 16: because you were hack ups along the way like the

1820
01:37:03,335 --> 01:37:04,735
Speaker 16: water proof and how do we do this?

1821
01:37:05,295 --> 01:37:07,535
Speaker 4: But that's building, yes, you know, but.

1822
01:37:07,535 --> 01:37:11,175
Speaker 16: It's so wonderful that everybody wants to come together and

1823
01:37:11,215 --> 01:37:13,935
Speaker 16: I think it brings out the best of everyone when

1824
01:37:14,015 --> 01:37:17,655
Speaker 16: it is a community project for student success, and that

1825
01:37:17,815 --> 01:37:19,815
Speaker 16: is what made it so special. So there isn't one

1826
01:37:19,815 --> 01:37:21,855
Speaker 16: person driving it. We are all in this together.

1827
01:37:22,215 --> 01:37:25,295
Speaker 4: Fantastic with me in the studio, Charlotte mckeowan from One

1828
01:37:25,375 --> 01:37:27,135
Speaker 4: Tree Hill College. We're going to take a short break.

1829
01:37:27,135 --> 01:37:29,055
Speaker 4: We'll talk a little bit more about the house and hey,

1830
01:37:29,455 --> 01:37:31,255
Speaker 4: you can buy it and it's a damn good house,

1831
01:37:31,295 --> 01:37:33,735
Speaker 4: so why wouldn't you twenty one minutes after eight back

1832
01:37:33,775 --> 01:37:34,255
Speaker 4: in the mow.

1833
01:37:34,255 --> 01:37:37,135
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fens, or wondering

1834
01:37:37,175 --> 01:37:39,255
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Peter

1835
01:37:39,335 --> 01:37:43,895
Speaker 1: wolf Gaper call on eighty the resident builder on news

1836
01:37:43,975 --> 01:37:44,535
Speaker 1: Dogs b.

1837
01:37:45,415 --> 01:37:48,455
Speaker 4: So Charlotte from One Tree Hill College teacher. I'd love

1838
01:37:48,495 --> 01:37:51,495
Speaker 4: that phrase, teacher in charge of trades, and part of

1839
01:37:51,575 --> 01:37:53,575
Speaker 4: me loves it so much because I don't see that

1840
01:37:53,775 --> 01:37:57,935
Speaker 4: on business cards for teachers much. Just very quick, what

1841
01:37:58,015 --> 01:38:00,615
Speaker 4: is it about One Tree Hill College that went we're

1842
01:38:00,655 --> 01:38:01,175
Speaker 4: going to do this?

1843
01:38:01,695 --> 01:38:01,935
Speaker 6: Is it?

1844
01:38:02,175 --> 01:38:06,135
Speaker 4: Your drive is at the school recognizing what they need

1845
01:38:06,175 --> 01:38:08,335
Speaker 4: for their students. Where does it come from?

1846
01:38:08,935 --> 01:38:11,495
Speaker 16: I think it came from originally are seeing that the

1847
01:38:11,495 --> 01:38:14,575
Speaker 16: students weren't transitioning as well as what they could from sure,

1848
01:38:14,815 --> 01:38:16,615
Speaker 16: from the program into apprenticeships.

1849
01:38:16,615 --> 01:38:18,055
Speaker 3: There's too big.

1850
01:38:17,855 --> 01:38:21,535
Speaker 16: A gap there, and from making furniture, which we were

1851
01:38:21,575 --> 01:38:23,375
Speaker 16: around the school, which is very helpful, and we need

1852
01:38:23,375 --> 01:38:25,695
Speaker 16: picnic tables and we need seating. This is all a

1853
01:38:25,775 --> 01:38:28,135
Speaker 16: valid thing to do, but it's not building on a

1854
01:38:28,215 --> 01:38:30,775
Speaker 16: job site, right, It's not. It's not, and you can't

1855
01:38:30,815 --> 01:38:33,015
Speaker 16: make it that because you're in a workshop. It's much

1856
01:38:33,055 --> 01:38:34,095
Speaker 16: more controlled in there.

1857
01:38:34,535 --> 01:38:34,975
Speaker 3: It's just not.

1858
01:38:35,215 --> 01:38:37,215
Speaker 4: And I guess the other thing is some schools allow

1859
01:38:37,335 --> 01:38:39,815
Speaker 4: for you know, in their let's say year thirteens who

1860
01:38:39,895 --> 01:38:42,615
Speaker 4: might have one day a week working on site, but

1861
01:38:42,735 --> 01:38:45,655
Speaker 4: then there's also that they can't keep up with their

1862
01:38:45,695 --> 01:38:48,375
Speaker 4: regular NCAA subjects and so on. So the beauty of

1863
01:38:48,375 --> 01:38:51,375
Speaker 4: bringing the work site to the school is what you

1864
01:38:51,375 --> 01:38:53,735
Speaker 4: were talking about earlier. You can be in the classroom

1865
01:38:53,855 --> 01:38:56,455
Speaker 4: doing you know, your Level three English or visual English

1866
01:38:56,535 --> 01:38:58,615
Speaker 4: or whatever you're doing, and then in the afternoon you'll

1867
01:38:58,655 --> 01:38:59,575
Speaker 4: be out on the building site.

1868
01:38:59,615 --> 01:39:00,095
Speaker 3: It's correct.

1869
01:39:00,175 --> 01:39:02,295
Speaker 16: So we've been able to mesh these two together, which

1870
01:39:02,775 --> 01:39:05,575
Speaker 16: means that as tradees are coming on site for whatever

1871
01:39:05,695 --> 01:39:07,735
Speaker 16: license works they may be doing. Yes, we can let

1872
01:39:07,815 --> 01:39:10,335
Speaker 16: the students know that, Hey, the electrician is going to

1873
01:39:10,335 --> 01:39:11,375
Speaker 16: be here today. If you want to go out, you

1874
01:39:11,415 --> 01:39:14,335
Speaker 16: can pull some wires with them, it'd be great. Or

1875
01:39:14,495 --> 01:39:16,175
Speaker 16: just go out and see when we were doing the

1876
01:39:16,175 --> 01:39:19,055
Speaker 16: diaphragm floor, for example, the students couldn't do that, but

1877
01:39:19,135 --> 01:39:21,375
Speaker 16: they could come out and watch that being done by

1878
01:39:21,495 --> 01:39:24,815
Speaker 16: licensed builders. Yes, which is a fabulous experience. Who knows

1879
01:39:24,855 --> 01:39:27,055
Speaker 16: what it looks like under there. It's great to see

1880
01:39:27,055 --> 01:39:28,935
Speaker 16: what I've beam in a joycener.

1881
01:39:29,655 --> 01:39:32,695
Speaker 4: What's going on? This is absolutely and the house when

1882
01:39:32,735 --> 01:39:35,575
Speaker 4: it arrived and I remember seeing the news story about it,

1883
01:39:35,615 --> 01:39:39,015
Speaker 4: you know, pretty shabby, run down, typical nineteen seventies house.

1884
01:39:39,335 --> 01:39:42,695
Speaker 4: So was this it's XKO stock from the Eastern Busway

1885
01:39:42,695 --> 01:39:46,255
Speaker 4: project or from another project came from from angli Okay,

1886
01:39:46,855 --> 01:39:48,455
Speaker 4: so I thought it might have been an Eastern Busway.

1887
01:39:48,535 --> 01:39:51,495
Speaker 4: Either way, it's fantastic that rather than just driving a

1888
01:39:51,495 --> 01:39:55,335
Speaker 4: bulldozer through them, we're refurbishing them and not just refurbishing.

1889
01:39:55,615 --> 01:40:00,055
Speaker 4: I think it's it's hard to not understate the fact

1890
01:40:00,095 --> 01:40:03,975
Speaker 4: that it's a home Star seven rating right independent rating.

1891
01:40:04,295 --> 01:40:08,055
Speaker 4: You've got to achieve right, doesn't meet the criteria, they're

1892
01:40:08,095 --> 01:40:10,295
Speaker 4: not going to give it a home Star seven rating.

1893
01:40:11,055 --> 01:40:15,175
Speaker 4: And given that, you know, when I firsted Homestar, probably

1894
01:40:15,175 --> 01:40:17,175
Speaker 4: seventy percent of New Zealand houses used to be a

1895
01:40:17,255 --> 01:40:21,015
Speaker 4: two or maybe, and then they ditched. Anything below five,

1896
01:40:21,295 --> 01:40:26,415
Speaker 4: and a modestly built house might achieve a seven is unusual.

1897
01:40:26,455 --> 01:40:28,495
Speaker 4: That puts you in the top couple of percent of

1898
01:40:28,535 --> 01:40:31,495
Speaker 4: houses in the country in terms of its energy efficiency,

1899
01:40:31,615 --> 01:40:34,655
Speaker 4: in terms of being warm, dry, comfortable. So, given that

1900
01:40:34,655 --> 01:40:38,455
Speaker 4: the house is up for sale, what's been the response

1901
01:40:38,575 --> 01:40:41,415
Speaker 4: from the community, and you've got real estate agents on board,

1902
01:40:41,415 --> 01:40:44,255
Speaker 4: it's on trade me you know, are you confident about

1903
01:40:44,255 --> 01:40:44,655
Speaker 4: the auction?

1904
01:40:44,935 --> 01:40:45,095
Speaker 10: Oh?

1905
01:40:45,135 --> 01:40:46,775
Speaker 3: Yes, in fact, we're even going to run a wager.

1906
01:40:46,935 --> 01:40:49,215
Speaker 3: That's right, Okay, of course we are.

1907
01:40:49,695 --> 01:40:52,295
Speaker 16: No, we do believe that there will be someone out

1908
01:40:52,335 --> 01:40:54,495
Speaker 16: there who will be looking to move this, whether it's

1909
01:40:54,535 --> 01:40:56,775
Speaker 16: for a batch or for a family home a little

1910
01:40:56,775 --> 01:40:58,935
Speaker 16: further out of Auckland, I would imagine wouldn't be great.

1911
01:40:59,175 --> 01:41:02,735
Speaker 16: It's not terribly expensive to move it fifty kilometers maybe

1912
01:41:02,775 --> 01:41:05,495
Speaker 16: thirty five thousand dollars and get some piles in the ground.

1913
01:41:05,695 --> 01:41:06,255
Speaker 3: You're good to go.

1914
01:41:06,495 --> 01:41:09,455
Speaker 16: It's affordable thing and you're going to take your toothbrush,

1915
01:41:09,495 --> 01:41:11,895
Speaker 16: because you even get a car so you can drive

1916
01:41:11,935 --> 01:41:13,135
Speaker 16: behind your house.

1917
01:41:13,255 --> 01:41:17,015
Speaker 4: On a truck far out so that and look, we're

1918
01:41:17,015 --> 01:41:20,175
Speaker 4: not talking expensive, right, So you've set the reserve at

1919
01:41:20,215 --> 01:41:21,655
Speaker 4: two hundred grand, that's.

1920
01:41:21,495 --> 01:41:23,615
Speaker 16: Correct, and we would have you know, more than four

1921
01:41:23,695 --> 01:41:26,535
Speaker 16: hundred in it, that's for sure for our sponsors donations.

1922
01:41:26,575 --> 01:41:27,535
Speaker 3: And that's without labor.

1923
01:41:27,575 --> 01:41:30,175
Speaker 16: So if you're coming in, you're going to get it

1924
01:41:30,255 --> 01:41:31,615
Speaker 16: under sort of four or five hundred.

1925
01:41:31,615 --> 01:41:33,015
Speaker 3: You're going to get a scale right there.

1926
01:41:33,415 --> 01:41:34,215
Speaker 4: What day is the auction?

1927
01:41:34,575 --> 01:41:37,615
Speaker 16: It is on Thursday, the third of April at four o'clock.

1928
01:41:37,615 --> 01:41:39,815
Speaker 16: It's a live auction with Barfoot and Thompson. So we'll

1929
01:41:39,815 --> 01:41:42,295
Speaker 16: be doing it on site, but of course fantastic do

1930
01:41:42,375 --> 01:41:43,255
Speaker 16: it online with you.

1931
01:41:44,095 --> 01:41:44,855
Speaker 3: All in your bid.

1932
01:41:45,375 --> 01:41:47,975
Speaker 16: Yeah, it'll be very exciting. I mean it's already exciting

1933
01:41:48,015 --> 01:41:50,175
Speaker 16: with the open homes, and this.

1934
01:41:50,135 --> 01:41:51,055
Speaker 4: Is not a one hit wonder.

1935
01:41:51,135 --> 01:41:51,255
Speaker 6: Ray.

1936
01:41:51,575 --> 01:41:53,815
Speaker 4: My understanding is you've got another house lined up and

1937
01:41:53,895 --> 01:41:55,535
Speaker 4: this will start again in May.

1938
01:41:55,695 --> 01:41:57,775
Speaker 16: That's correct, So this house will need to be off

1939
01:41:57,775 --> 01:42:00,535
Speaker 16: site by the end of April. We actually the builders

1940
01:42:00,535 --> 01:42:03,495
Speaker 16: out today are looking at thirty eight different homes that

1941
01:42:03,535 --> 01:42:06,095
Speaker 16: are going to be removed in a particular area and

1942
01:42:06,415 --> 01:42:08,815
Speaker 16: he will be narrowing that down. We need something that

1943
01:42:08,855 --> 01:42:11,095
Speaker 16: can fit on a truck, something with an iron roof, yep.

1944
01:42:11,415 --> 01:42:14,695
Speaker 16: And if it meets those specifications, then we can start

1945
01:42:14,735 --> 01:42:16,775
Speaker 16: crawling around and seeing if the bones are good and

1946
01:42:16,775 --> 01:42:19,335
Speaker 16: we'll pick that up and make it into something fabulous and.

1947
01:42:19,295 --> 01:42:21,015
Speaker 4: You'll spend your dollar. You're buying a house.

1948
01:42:21,655 --> 01:42:23,855
Speaker 3: Well, we've got our dollar ready. We're good to go.

1949
01:42:24,815 --> 01:42:26,415
Speaker 4: Can I just read out to you a couple of

1950
01:42:26,415 --> 01:42:27,855
Speaker 4: the texts that have come through So the way it

1951
01:42:27,855 --> 01:42:30,855
Speaker 4: works as people can text right into the studio. So

1952
01:42:30,935 --> 01:42:34,135
Speaker 4: this text what a wonderful story and what a resourceful

1953
01:42:34,215 --> 01:42:37,815
Speaker 4: person Charlotte is one Tree Hill College is blessed. Another

1954
01:42:37,855 --> 01:42:39,855
Speaker 4: person has said this is a game changer for our

1955
01:42:39,895 --> 01:42:43,095
Speaker 4: young people. Hope it gets replicated throughout New Zealand. Hope

1956
01:42:43,175 --> 01:42:46,935
Speaker 4: ko heads are listening from Lee because other schools have

1957
01:42:46,975 --> 01:42:49,815
Speaker 4: done builds right, but it's often from new or they've

1958
01:42:49,855 --> 01:42:52,295
Speaker 4: got frames and trusses and maybe a roof on site

1959
01:42:52,375 --> 01:42:56,095
Speaker 4: and it's the completion. This is genuinely new and game

1960
01:42:56,175 --> 01:43:00,135
Speaker 4: changing in terms of a deep retro fit and remodel

1961
01:43:00,215 --> 01:43:01,415
Speaker 4: of an existing building.

1962
01:43:01,495 --> 01:43:05,375
Speaker 16: Correct, And I think well for us we weren't confident

1963
01:43:05,415 --> 01:43:07,215
Speaker 16: to take a brand new bath because we don't have

1964
01:43:07,255 --> 01:43:10,455
Speaker 16: any covered area, We don't have a special space. We

1965
01:43:10,575 --> 01:43:12,975
Speaker 16: just have a triangular piece of land that the school

1966
01:43:13,015 --> 01:43:14,295
Speaker 16: couldn't use for anything.

1967
01:43:14,055 --> 01:43:15,535
Speaker 3: Else, and no one wanted.

1968
01:43:15,935 --> 01:43:18,255
Speaker 16: That was all we had, so we couldn't do the

1969
01:43:18,335 --> 01:43:21,655
Speaker 16: model with kring or with the frames and trusses, and

1970
01:43:21,735 --> 01:43:24,415
Speaker 16: we were considering tiny houses, but that really seemed to

1971
01:43:24,415 --> 01:43:26,735
Speaker 16: be much and gosh, how would we pay it back?

1972
01:43:26,975 --> 01:43:29,935
Speaker 16: So for us caring or was the difference between us

1973
01:43:29,935 --> 01:43:31,695
Speaker 16: being able to do this and not do it. And

1974
01:43:32,135 --> 01:43:34,335
Speaker 16: I do want to thank them for having that vision

1975
01:43:34,535 --> 01:43:37,455
Speaker 16: of sustainability and saying hey, look we will help you.

1976
01:43:37,495 --> 01:43:39,535
Speaker 16: And they did help us a lot to get this

1977
01:43:39,735 --> 01:43:42,095
Speaker 16: on site. They removed all this bust us before we

1978
01:43:42,135 --> 01:43:46,575
Speaker 16: got it, which meets the Ministry of Education specifications and

1979
01:43:47,055 --> 01:43:49,175
Speaker 16: it's allowed us to do this and now, of course

1980
01:43:49,215 --> 01:43:51,535
Speaker 16: it allows others to see what we're doing and they

1981
01:43:51,535 --> 01:43:53,015
Speaker 16: can do it too, and we want to share that.

1982
01:43:53,095 --> 01:43:55,255
Speaker 16: We want everyone in New Zelling to do it and

1983
01:43:55,295 --> 01:43:56,895
Speaker 16: they are more than welcome to contact us and we

1984
01:43:56,895 --> 01:43:58,095
Speaker 16: will give them everything we've got.

1985
01:43:58,335 --> 01:44:00,255
Speaker 4: You mentioned on Monday that some other schools were coming

1986
01:44:00,295 --> 01:44:02,135
Speaker 4: to look through. Did that happen this week?

1987
01:44:02,215 --> 01:44:05,655
Speaker 16: So on Thursday we had twenty five twenty seven people

1988
01:44:05,695 --> 01:44:08,415
Speaker 16: come from different schools around New Zealand to hear about

1989
01:44:08,455 --> 01:44:12,455
Speaker 16: what we were doing. And we had people talking from BCITO,

1990
01:44:12,655 --> 01:44:15,935
Speaker 16: from Moldi and Pacific Trade Training. We had Matthew talking

1991
01:44:15,975 --> 01:44:19,455
Speaker 16: about home staff. Yes, we had our rotary program talking

1992
01:44:19,495 --> 01:44:22,535
Speaker 16: about the mentoring program and the purpose was to show

1993
01:44:22,575 --> 01:44:25,735
Speaker 16: the rape Around program that we do share everything. There

1994
01:44:25,775 --> 01:44:28,015
Speaker 16: is no question that is not welcome. And we'll tell

1995
01:44:28,055 --> 01:44:29,655
Speaker 16: you what we've done because we want you to do

1996
01:44:29,695 --> 01:44:30,055
Speaker 16: it too.

1997
01:44:30,255 --> 01:44:33,975
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're doing it again. And when I talked

1998
01:44:33,975 --> 01:44:36,055
Speaker 4: to you on Monday, I said, look, here's the deal.

1999
01:44:36,135 --> 01:44:37,935
Speaker 4: If you come into the studio and chat for half

2000
01:44:37,935 --> 01:44:39,935
Speaker 4: an hour, which we've done, I'll come and work for

2001
01:44:39,975 --> 01:44:41,615
Speaker 4: you for a day. So you just let me know

2002
01:44:41,815 --> 01:44:43,615
Speaker 4: and I'll be there with you. Not escape me my

2003
01:44:43,735 --> 01:44:46,775
Speaker 4: Pilly Penny on All right, looking forward to Charlotte mckewan

2004
01:44:46,855 --> 01:44:48,775
Speaker 4: from one Tree Hill College. All the very best for

2005
01:44:48,815 --> 01:44:50,695
Speaker 4: the auction. Check it out online. It's on trade Me.

2006
01:44:50,735 --> 01:44:54,015
Speaker 4: It'll be on the Bathlet and website, Bartheton Thompson website.

2007
01:44:54,135 --> 01:44:56,455
Speaker 4: Good luck with the auction and thank you very much

2008
01:44:56,495 --> 01:45:00,815
Speaker 4: for joining me today. Yeah back with Rudd in just

2009
01:45:00,855 --> 01:45:04,615
Speaker 4: a moment. Squeaky door or Squeaky floor.

2010
01:45:04,775 --> 01:45:08,095
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2011
01:45:08,335 --> 01:45:12,615
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2012
01:45:12,695 --> 01:45:15,615
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2013
01:45:15,695 --> 01:45:19,295
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