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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at.

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Speaker 2: Be Rude climb Past is not in the garden because

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Speaker 2: he's in our studio with us this morning.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, it's so lovely to be here.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you've brought a fair friend this morning.

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Speaker 3: Well, I decided to do something different. I mean, you've

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Speaker 3: seen all these weather and things like that. I thought

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Speaker 3: I talked with the teachers about red back spiders and

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Speaker 3: where they came from and how they got here.

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Speaker 2: So just to be totally clear, over the last week

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Speaker 2: or so, you've been guiding teachers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a numbers of different ways. First of all,

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Speaker 3: I had a whole week in in what do you

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Speaker 3: call it Maude Island, which is on the in the

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Speaker 3: what do you call it Marbarus Marbles, you got it, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And we took kids there with their with their teachers

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Speaker 3: once a day and we did all sorts of work

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Speaker 3: on that island and found all these amazing native stuff,

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Speaker 3: hermit crabs and all that nonsense, and it was great.

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Speaker 3: Gave wet penguin's you name it, Hamilton's frog Penguin's there. Yeah. God,

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Speaker 3: they're bringing they're starting now. They're coming to the boxes

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Speaker 3: going you can't even sleep with that.

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Speaker 2: Noise things at my place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is a bit like that. So that

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Speaker 1: was that.

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Speaker 3: So that was actually a wonderful thing. That's what DOC does.

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Speaker 3: They give us, you know, basically with the boat. You

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Speaker 3: go there for a whole week and you muck around

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Speaker 3: with these kids one after the other, and they all

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Speaker 3: come back with the idea that they know what to do.

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Speaker 3: Can we have penguins at our school? Can we do this? Can?

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Speaker 3: And that's how you education start, you know, that works.

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Speaker 3: So that was that week. Now I've just finished a

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Speaker 3: week with not field based, but Blake inspire. So Peter Blake,

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Speaker 3: trust you know, Sir Peter Blake. The day before he died,

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Speaker 3: he gave the most amazing I should send it to you.

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Speaker 3: He wrote in his diary about you know what we

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Speaker 3: need to do and he got shot the next day.

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Speaker 3: And we've decided to do this this no not feel

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Speaker 3: Bake Blake inspired thing every school holidays. So we got

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Speaker 3: thirty teachers coming to us in hotel. They've got a

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Speaker 3: wonderful hotel there. They don't realize that they only get

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Speaker 3: six hours sleep a day. But that's that's all right,

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Speaker 3: go to Tafer and new we go to all sorts

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Speaker 3: of places and we find ki Wei sleeping at night?

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine that?

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Speaker 2: And they go should shouldn't? Can we be awake at night?

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Speaker 3: No? But this is during the day. Oh okay, we

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Speaker 3: went during today?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it.

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Speaker 3: This is exactly what it's about.

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Speaker 2: I thought there was a trick question there for a

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Speaker 2: moment road, but.

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Speaker 3: I used to Actually I studied Kiwis in the ninety

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Speaker 3: eighty that's a long time ago, but I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to go there. So basically, what we're trying to do

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Speaker 3: there is to create nature literate teachers who understand the

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Speaker 3: operations manual of the planet. I've used those words quite

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Speaker 3: a long time, but it's really what this is about.

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Speaker 3: And they now are taking that knowledge back to the

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Speaker 3: school and starting all sorts of projects, and that is

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Speaker 3: what this is about.

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Speaker 2: It's just wonder that must be so nice to be

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Speaker 2: teaching the teachers like that, and knowing that, you know,

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Speaker 2: by teaching thirty people, you're actually potentially teaching you know,

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Speaker 2: three thousand people. You know, that's that is pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about the red back then, Well.

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Speaker 3: The Red Back basically you got a name, Well, no,

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Speaker 3: we I just called it the red back. I got

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Speaker 3: it only about a year ago when it finally came

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Speaker 3: out of the egg. This is a creature that came

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Speaker 3: from Central Otago, where I quite often find them there.

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Speaker 3: We now know, or think we know that the way

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Speaker 3: they got into New Zealand is probably with the Chinese

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Speaker 3: people that did the work on the mines in Cinelotagra.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they came from Australia. Yeah, okay, and with their

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Speaker 2: gear in the eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they took They were quite sure we took. They

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Speaker 3: took those things with them by accident. And of course

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Speaker 3: these guys are very closely related if you look at them,

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Speaker 3: very closely related to our cutty post spider as well.

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Speaker 3: And it's interesting to actually see how they differ. And

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Speaker 3: they don't differ that much at all.

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Speaker 2: So would that kill you? No, he says, with an

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Speaker 2: upward infliction. The ins in me, lawyer, sweet and cold bullets.

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Speaker 3: Oh look you know what you I've taken stuff and

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Speaker 3: here that. Yeah, I've been bitten three times by back,

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Speaker 3: but that was all that was by excellent kind of

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Speaker 3: because I usually put him on my hand and show people.

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Speaker 3: You don't be worried. Do you bite the ground? Key

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Speaker 3: walk on?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: No, there you go.

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Speaker 2: No. So yeah, but I actually do this. No, I

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Speaker 2: think we'll, I think we're we leave it three so

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Speaker 2: three times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a quick learner.

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Speaker 1: Root.

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Speaker 3: No, not the first fly on the turd. Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: He is beautiful.

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