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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 2: And welcome Today. The money Tree continues to provide bounty,

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Speaker 2: this time at schools. Also, the holiday laws get shaken

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Speaker 2: up today deal for local coal to fire Huntley to

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Speaker 2: keep those lights on. Half of Finn for a catch

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Speaker 2: up after eight head of his debut album Catherine Field

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Speaker 2: as in war Torn cyber hits Europe, Rod Liddles in

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Speaker 2: the UK Paska, Have you with us Tuesday morning? Our

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Speaker 2: seven past six. Couple of simple questions I have for

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Speaker 2: you about the recognition of Palestine? How come the media

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Speaker 2: are so obsessed about it given most of the country isn't.

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Speaker 2: We had a poll here the other week forty percent

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Speaker 2: think we should announce recognition. The rest i e. The majority,

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Speaker 2: so we shouldn't or we don't know. They don't knows

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Speaker 2: are a very big number. In fact, do you know why?

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Speaker 2: Because we've got bigger fish to fry and it makes

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Speaker 2: no difference. It simply isn't on the radar of most

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Speaker 2: of us as an immediate actionable thing. The number in

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Speaker 2: Australia is actually even lower. You may have noticed yesterday

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Speaker 2: we asked the Prime Minister about a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: stuff on this program that I would regard as more important,

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Speaker 2: things like power generation, pending announcements around reform, dumping of

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Speaker 2: But it was his once again noncommittal comments to Palatine

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Speaker 2: that our newsroom decided to pick up and run with.

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Speaker 2: There's a massive disconnect between the media and what increasingly

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Speaker 2: looks like their obsession and Middle New Zealand, who are

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Speaker 2: currently more exercised. I bet about the school holidays last

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Speaker 2: week post cabinet. You had to see it. The journalist's

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Speaker 2: questioning only came to life. In fact, it became almost

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Speaker 2: hysterical when Palestine was raised, almost as though there is

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Speaker 2: one single issue facing New Zealand in twenty twenty five now.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, the government haven't helped themselves. Dithering, which

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Speaker 2: is what they've done, doesn't help the media's obsession. Rule

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Speaker 2: it and rule of that, get on with it. You

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Speaker 2: cannot tell me. Winston's busy ferreting around the un corridors

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Speaker 2: as we speak, looking for late breaking takes on an

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Speaker 2: issue that's remained and will remain unresolved for decades. Clearly,

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Speaker 2: the National Party, the New Zealand First Party, the Act

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Speaker 2: Party views differ and they've got to drum up some

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Speaker 2: sort of deal. I mean, that's MMP. But honestly, what

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Speaker 2: we say and when we say it changes nothing never

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Speaker 2: was going to part of the news in its coverage.

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Speaker 2: And here's the problem. Part of its news and its

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Speaker 2: coverage is to look through the moment. It's more than

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Speaker 2: just the hero. And now where does the decision take us?

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Speaker 2: What changes? What are the material outcomes in this case

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Speaker 2: on this issue. It's nothing, nothing, nothing and nothing. It's

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Speaker 2: always been nothing. It's the molehill that got turned into

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Speaker 2: a mountain and drained far too much energy in the process.

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Speaker 1: Wow, news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Well, Fergie's world's coming crashing down around her. If you

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Speaker 2: thought Andrew was the weak royal link, hold my beer.

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Speaker 3: Following the information shared this weekend on the Duchess of

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Speaker 3: York's correspondence with the Jeffrey Epstein, Julia's House has taken

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Speaker 3: the decision that it would be inappropriate for her to

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Speaker 3: continue as patron of the charity that wasn't all she

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Speaker 3: was a patron, but in life the recent revelations, we

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Speaker 3: have taken the decision that it would be inappropriate for

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Speaker 3: her to continue to be in associated with the charity.

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Speaker 3: We'd like to thank her for her kindness and support

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Speaker 3: in the past.

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Speaker 2: So there was two charities, there are now four charities

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Speaker 2: who bailed on at the UN the aforemention, we've got

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Speaker 2: large swathes of foreign ministers roaming the hall's offering views

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Speaker 2: on wars. Of it is from Britain, and she's giving

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Speaker 4: At best, these latest acts are dangerous and reckless. At worst,

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Speaker 4: they are a deliberate attempt to undermine the territorial integrity

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Speaker 4: of sovereign nations and European security.

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Speaker 2: Became Nigel, who increasingly looks like the Prime Minister in waiting,

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Speaker 2: is extolling the virtues of his deportation plan.

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Speaker 5: We will abolish indefinitely to remain as a category in

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Speaker 5: this country. We are not the world's food bank. It

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Speaker 2: Those and kela as you can imagine not lapping it up.

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Speaker 6: What about those who would have to meet higher salary requirements,

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Speaker 6: How are they all going to be replaced? So those

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Speaker 2: But in related matters, Sid who runs the lib DIMS,

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Speaker 2: it's the Tories or no one, And I don't even

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Speaker 2: know the Tories that grip buy it anyway more with

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Speaker 2: Rod later on for now though that's news of the

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Speaker 2: world in ninety sixty also hold my view again it's

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Speaker 2: now seven charities, So it's gone from one to two

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Speaker 2: to three to four to five to six to seven

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Speaker 2: charities are going to have no charities live China. By

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Speaker 2: the way, benchmark lending rates unchanged for the fourth month

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Speaker 2: in a row eleven past six.

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Speaker 2: We're standing by for Trump. I'm led to believe it's

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Speaker 2: about eight o'clock this morning, New Zealand time. But this link,

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Speaker 2: this is all OURFK stuff, This link between Tayler Old,

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Speaker 2: given it's OURRFK it's bound to be, does that open

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Speaker 2: callaher good morning, Good morning, Mike, so huntly, good news,

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Speaker 2: amazing in the renewable journey. Just how reliant we've become

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Speaker 2: on cold that big bad as it may, at least

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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, So actually I was making that.

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Speaker 8: I was musing about this negative news GDP news last week,

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Speaker 8: look at things that are going on in the private sector,

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Speaker 8: and amidst all that negative news, I think this is

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Speaker 7: Good news for the ycaddow specifically Huntley.

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Speaker 8: So Genesis Energy, who own and operate the Huntley Power Station,

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Speaker 8: which is a thermal POWERstation, have signed.

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Speaker 7: A deal to use local coal.

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Speaker 8: Now obviously throws of all sorts of environmental implications, doesn't it.

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Speaker 7: But looking at this deal, Genesis Energy has.

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Speaker 8: Signed a deal for two years worth of local coal

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 7: BT Mining is jointly.

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Speaker 8: Owned by the ASX listed Baptist Resources and the local

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Speaker 8: company Tally's Energy, and they're going to supply about two

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Speaker 8: Before we throw our hands in the air about burning coal,

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Speaker 8: I mean Huntley currently burns between three hundred and five

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Speaker 8: despite our environment environmental sensibilities, we've got to do this

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Speaker 8: this will do will reduce our reliance of overseas shipments

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Speaker 8: I think it also boosts the economy at a time

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Speaker 7: I think that's probably good.

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Speaker 8: You know, we have to recognize there is a mountain

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Speaker 8: of It's not We're not just going down the colt.

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Speaker 8: There's a mountain of sustainable projects going on in wind

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Speaker 7: But you know, good for the Waikato.

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Speaker 8: BT Mining has got mines at Maramurua and also roto Waro,

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Speaker 7: So look, ye, despite the anks, I think it's good.

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Speaker 2: Malcolm John's is the head of Genesis. He's with us

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Speaker 2: after seven thirty this morning. Talk to me about Canterbury.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be good in Canterbury. Ah, come on,

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Speaker 2: give me the news from Canterbury.

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Speaker 8: He had similar theme here, Mike, terrible GDP outcome. But

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Speaker 8: there are pockets of optimism, an't There's a business Canterbury.

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Speaker 8: Canterbury Business survey not all doom and gloom in the

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Speaker 7: More than half of them.

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Speaker 8: Fifty five percent plan to hire, which is great, and

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Speaker 8: from Business Canoby, they say regional GDP apparently slightly positive.

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Speaker 8: shouldn't we, Look, Mike, and I said it last week. Now,

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Speaker 7: Days to sell houses are coming down. Confidence is lifting.

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Speaker 8: Canterbury's going well, the agri economy is strong, and hopefully

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Speaker 8: that sustainable interest rates are going to possibly go even lower.

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Speaker 8: That's all got to bode well for twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 8: hasn't it. I mean it must bode well. We must

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Speaker 8: get there eventually.

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Speaker 2: Just say all that stuff without quite the hint of

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Speaker 7: It's the what do you do exactly?

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Speaker 2: this just sheer panic at the moment.

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Speaker 8: So I was keeping an eye overnight Mike on US

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Speaker 8: shares because there's proposed changes into this H one B visas. Now,

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Speaker 8: the context here is foreigners work in the US often

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Speaker 8: work under an H one bvs A. Lots of tech companies,

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Speaker 8: it's extensively. Trump has proposed a one off f one

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Speaker 8: hundred thousand US. It's one hundred and seventy thousand Kiwi.

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Speaker 8: These have been around since ninety ninety.

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Speaker 7: It's the main.

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Speaker 8: Pathway to the US for highly skilled foreign workers. Just

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Speaker 8: give you the numbers here, Mike, Amazon, two hundred and

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Speaker 8: sixty five of these things. Where should to them?

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Speaker 8: At one hundred k a pop, that's almost a billion

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Speaker 8: dollars though over fifty thousand issues. What's interesting, Mike, haven't

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Speaker 8: got time to talk about now, is that actually it

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Speaker 8: may favor Australia New Zealand because Australia's and New Zealanders

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Speaker 8: can actually access the US via a different visa. But

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Speaker 8: that's a bit of a story for another day. There's

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Speaker 8: a there's the truck. They're called E ones, E twos

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Speaker 2: i wonder if this's going to be a. Thing it's

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Speaker 2: an aanime. Movie it was number one in the domestic

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Speaker 2: well it was number one again this past. Weekend two

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Speaker 2: Million forty two percent of Gen z watches, anime and

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Speaker 2: it's not, anime it's. HORROR a couple of interesting themes

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Speaker 2: developing in the world of movies at the, moment six twenty.

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Speaker 2: Very good. News we'll talk To catherine about THE nato

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Speaker 2: at The United Nations Security, council the game to hold

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Speaker 2: an emergency. Meeting so they don't like What russia has

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Speaker 2: It what The ministry has described as, blatant reckless and

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Speaker 2: Situation what you do is you hold an emergency. Meeting So,

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Speaker 2: Fan season two is. Close It's paramount's number one. Show

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Speaker 2: it's one point three eight billions. Exactly oh you had that,

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Speaker 2: right did you? Yet one point three eight billion? Minutes

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Speaker 2: as for season? Two an exclusive trailer For New zealand And.

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Speaker 2: it had a different. ENDING i looked at the end

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Speaker 2: no idea. Anyway Billy Bob, Thornton Demi, moore she's. Okay John.

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Speaker 2: HAMM i thought he was, dead but he may not.

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Speaker 2: Be maybe he comes back to life, Anyway Michelle. Randolph

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Speaker 2: horner is officially gone From Red. Bullies obviously already gone

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Speaker 2: all over the. Place somebody is suggesting fifty two million.

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Speaker 2: twenty three to Seven Money. Matters we like THE cd

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Speaker 2: Of Michelle bullet's. Gym she is The reservank. Governor of,

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Speaker 2: course her latest is that the cost of living crisis

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Speaker 2: is here to. Stay are the vulnerable are set to

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Speaker 2: be at the. Front part of the advice is to

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Speaker 2: stop comparing prices to pre pandemic levels because it's never

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Speaker 2: going to. Change Brad Olsen's implementric's principal economist to and

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Speaker 2: as well As bradley good, morning good. Morning didn't we

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Speaker 2: sort of know that BECAUSE i mean outside of fruit

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Speaker 12: Well, generally AND i think most people have got, that

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Speaker 12: ALTHOUGH i think if you, don't and particularly this applies to.

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Speaker 12: Businesses if you've got a business out there and you're

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Speaker 12: waiting for your cost structure and similar to get back

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Speaker 12: before that, happens because you're, right things just generally don't

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Speaker 12: negative if you've got people that are having to cut,

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Speaker 12: prices one of course you're not expecting your own way

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Speaker 12: if a business is having to cut prices that steeply

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Speaker 12: so generally, speaking Although i'm sure everyone Goes i'd love

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Speaker 2: You the other thing she said THAT i thought was

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Speaker 2: interesting monetary, policy and this is part of a growing,

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Speaker 2: Well monetary policy isn't the driver of the housing. Boom

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Speaker 2: boom which counteracts what OUR rbu say is doesn't it

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Speaker 2: in the sense that they're. Saying but look at the

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Speaker 2: lower interest. Rates look at the lower interest. Rates that's,

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Speaker 12: Right, well, WELL i mean this is the fascinating thing

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Speaker 12: hitting a new record just about every. Day New zealand

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Speaker 12: house prices are sixteen percent below the, peak even though

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Speaker 12: we've cut interest rates a whole lot. MORE i think

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Speaker 12: what it goes to show is that when you've got

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Speaker 12: quite constrained, supply and that's what we're Both New zealand

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Speaker 12: And australia were before the. Pandemic then when you move

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Speaker 12: interest rates you're able to see such a bigger spark

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Speaker 12: up in the housing. Market But New zealand had the

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Speaker 12: highest levels of building consents in half a, century going

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Speaker 12: back a couple of, years so we really expanded, supply

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Speaker 12: which means that we're seeing much less of an interest

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Speaker 12: rate impact at the. Moment In, australia last year they

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Speaker 12: so thus struggling on the supply. Front it sort of

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Speaker 12: goes to show, that, yeah interest rates are pretty, important

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Speaker 12: but so is figuring out how you build the damn.

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Speaker 2: Things and this is What i'm reading more and more

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Speaker 2: of in this side of the, economy and this suggesting

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Speaker 2: that maybe the, role or the value or the weight

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Speaker 2: of these interest rate cuts from The Reserve bank have

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Speaker 2: been overstated. Generally do you think that's true to a?

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Speaker 12: DEGREE i worry, though that part of this is sort

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Speaker 12: of feeding into this idea that you, know there's a

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Speaker 12: really strong wealth effect from the housing. Market if only

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Speaker 12: house prices would start to pick up a whole lot,

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Speaker 12: more we would start to see stronger consumer spending because

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Speaker 12: concept like do we really as an economy want to

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Speaker 12: locking people. Out so as uncomfortable as it, is and trust,

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Speaker 12: me we're seeing. That i'm actually happy that we're decoupling

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Speaker 12: housing growth from economic. Growth and, importantly households are still.

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Speaker 12: Spending that RUBBISH gdp result we got last week actually

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Speaker 12: still showed that underlying spending activity by households was. Rising

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Speaker 12: it was that business investment had pulled. Back so on

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Speaker 12: the whole, again deeply, uncomfortable BUT i think we're probably

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Speaker 12: going to be in a better place long term from

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Speaker 12: decoupling those two major economic.

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Speaker 2: Drivers always a pleasure might go Well Brad, olson Who's

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Speaker 2: inflementric's principal. Economist it's nineteen minutes away from seven speaking

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Speaker 2: of things monetary monetary policy without, mates why The Reserve

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Speaker 2: bank is right to focus on price. Stability this is

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Speaker 2: the latest report from The New Zealand. Initiative it is

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Speaker 2: written By Oliver, hunt Which Eric crampton And Bryce, wilkinson

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Speaker 2: and Unfortunately the biggest mistake they make in the, report

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Speaker 2: and it's well worth, reading is to be found on

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Speaker 2: page five where my name is. Mentioned but, anyway be

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Speaker 2: that as it. May their argument unfairly scapegoated The Reserve

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Speaker 2: bank unfairly scapegoated for the current recession when it was

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Speaker 2: simply doing its job of bringing infation under. Control the

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Speaker 2: government's fiscal policy worked against these. Efforts that's. TRUE i,

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Speaker 2: mean that's indisputably. True when you Got Grant robinson with

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Speaker 2: his fire, HOSE i, mean what do you do as

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Speaker 2: a reserve bank forcing interest rates to stay higher for?

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Speaker 2: Longer The Reserve bank has been put in a difficult.

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Speaker 2: Position that broadly is, right but it's well worth reading

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Speaker 2: the report once. Again from The New Zealand initiative eighteen to, two.

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Speaker 2: It Be, Mike New zealand animal feed imports are up

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent a year on year when there's no.

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Speaker 2: Drought that means increased production and increased exports. Receipts thank

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Speaker 2: you the. FARMERS i didn't realize that's a very good

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Speaker 2: stat AND i appreciate you putting into the program six forty.

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Speaker 13: Five International correspondence with ins an eye, insurance peace of

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Speaker 13: mind For New zealand.

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Speaker 2: Business he's given any and. Farming it makes, sense of.

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Speaker 2: COURSE i guess Casment field's with us In. France good,

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Speaker 2: Morning good morning. MAN i don't know if you've got

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Speaker 2: a poll there In New zealand it was forty percent

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Speaker 2: people who think we should Recognize. Palestine broadly, speaking here

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Speaker 2: it's not that big an. Issue In australia it was even.

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Speaker 2: Lower where would you assess it In? France you, know

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Speaker 2: is there a frisson about?

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Speaker 4: It there? IS i mean there is really a feeling you,

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Speaker 4: get not just talking to diplomats and think, tanks but

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Speaker 4: feeling that there is so much happening In gaza that

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Speaker 4: needs to have a reaction to it that is stronger

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Speaker 4: than just the words that are coming. Out and also

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Speaker 4: there's this feeling that there needs to be more of

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Speaker 4: a counterweight to THE us And israel when it comes To.

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Speaker 4: Palestine let's not be under any illusions. Here Mike france

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Speaker 4: realizes that this is not going to change a heck

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Speaker 4: of a. Lot it's a very small. Step it may

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Speaker 4: eventually become a medium. Step it could eventually be part

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Speaker 4: of a pathway to that two state. Solution but for the,

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Speaker 4: Moment france is saying that it's going, tour it's planning

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Speaker 4: to formally recognize A palestinian state in the next couple of,

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Speaker 4: hours and it may well help push, ALONG i feel,

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Speaker 4: like create parameters whereby there will be a discussion on

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Speaker 4: some sort of peace. Plan Eventually palestine getting its own,

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Speaker 4: government its Own you're having the ability to make its own.

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Speaker 4: Decisions that's where they're seeing. It as you, know let's

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Speaker 4: not forget what is, it one hundred and forty five

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Speaker 4: nations at THE un already Recognized palestinian. State so it's

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Speaker 4: really more a way Of france saying it wants to stand,

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Speaker 4: up stand With Saudi arabia and make the statement that

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Speaker 4: something has to be.

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Speaker 2: Done, okay let me come back to the other war

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Speaker 2: in just a couple of. Moments i'm just reading the

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Speaker 2: The have you got your trouble sorted out the airport

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Speaker 2: yet or the?

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Speaker 4: Airports, oh it's still a bit of a backlog on that.

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Speaker 4: One what we do know about that cyber, attack which

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Speaker 4: was what Late friday Evening europe time caused enormous disruption it,

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Speaker 4: was you, know particularly at targeting the check in and

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Speaker 4: boarding systems used By Colin's aerospace in some, Ways, Yes,

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Speaker 4: mike you, know there is this annoyance that these major,

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Speaker 4: airports what was, It, Heathrow brussels And villain were affected by.

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Speaker 4: It but at the same time there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: relief that it was only those three airports that were

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Speaker 4: affected by, this that the contagion didn't. Happen looking at,

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Speaker 4: It Colins aerospace operates the software systems in about one

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty airports, worldwide so you know a lot

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Speaker 4: of patting on the back that perhaps they did move

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Speaker 4: quickly they. Affected but the other problem, is of course

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Speaker 4: you know what caused. It was it with single identity

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Speaker 4: that did the cyber? Attack was, it you, know a

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Speaker 4: state actor and or was it something more simple like

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Speaker 4: a compromised? Update but the big pop, again you, know

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Speaker 4: we all rely on, airports we all like to get,

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Speaker 4: away and essentially it means that we're seeing the fragility

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Speaker 4: of these types of big critical.

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Speaker 2: Infrastructure ain't that the? Truth so In New York Security

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Speaker 2: council is going to have a meeting About estonia Or,

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Speaker 2: russia et. Cetera NATO's going to have a. Meeting so many, Meetings,

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Speaker 2: catherine does anything actually get.

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Speaker 4: Done we're now at that moment where we have had

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Speaker 4: what three incursions in two weeks INTO nato. Territory, yeah

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Speaker 4: big meeting AT Nato, tuesday that's been called By, estonia,

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Speaker 4: which of course Last friday, morning THREE MiG thirty One

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Speaker 4: russian fighter jets entered into their airspace stayed there for

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Speaker 4: about twelve. Minutes not long after, that there were Two

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Speaker 4: russian fighter jets Over Polith Economic zone and The baltech.

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Speaker 4: All you, know everyone's realizing that this is probing NATO's.

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Speaker 4: Resolve we've had a lot of statements in the last

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Speaker 4: couple of, Hours, mike from The holes and also from

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Speaker 4: The brits saying this has got to. Stop there will

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Speaker 4: come a point of which there will be a. Response

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Speaker 4: that response is what's on everyone's. Minds what response would there?

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Speaker 4: Be we saw last Week ITALIAN f thirty five jets

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Speaker 4: going up to escort Those russian fighter jets out Of estonian.

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Speaker 4: Airspace what more would there? Be that's the way everyone's

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Speaker 4: holding their breath.

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Speaker 2: Back, yeah nice to talk to you for catch. Up

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Speaker 2: So Katherine field And france by the, Way europe split

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Speaker 2: as regards THE un and what we're standing by with

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Speaker 2: so much excitement From winston On saturday, morning how much

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Speaker 2: of Your saturday morning are you? Canceling by the, way

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Speaker 2: just this coming, weekend do you want to take In

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Speaker 2: Winston peter's? Live do you want to have a replay

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Speaker 2: once he's given a? Speech would you not go to

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Speaker 2: school sport or weekend sport if you normally go to

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Speaker 2: the supermarket on? Set are going to delay that so

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Speaker 2: you can Hear WINSTON'S.

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Speaker 14: I think we definitely watch it, live record it so

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Speaker 14: you can just put it on repeat for the.

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Speaker 2: Weekend, yeah because of your shorld on, sports sure that

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Speaker 2: covers you.

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Speaker 14: OFF i mean it'd be a sort of a moon

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Speaker 14: landing kind of a, moment won't it?

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Speaker 2: Be pretty? Close macron's being blamed for stalling the formal

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Speaker 2: pledge on the, climate and so in other, Words italy

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Speaker 2: And poland they don't want deeper, cuts so they haven't

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Speaker 2: got any. Cuts they were sort of talking about sixty

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Speaker 2: six point twenty five percent between that and seventy two

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Speaker 2: point five, percent which is dangerously close to Where australia.

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Speaker 2: Landed the other day and other words they don't, know

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Speaker 2: and so none of it's going to come to, pass

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Speaker 2: and the whole thing's just a lot of hot air

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Speaker 2: and a lot of meetings and nothing. Changes ten away from, seven.

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Speaker 1: The Make Hosking breakfast with A Vida Retirement communities news

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Speaker 1: togs had BEEN.

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Speaker 2: I mike not came to Watch winston proclaim to the

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Speaker 2: world That New zealand supports for Mass, well you don't know.

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Speaker 2: That winston's having some late breaking meetings of course in

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Speaker 2: that part of the, world and then he'll report back

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Speaker 2: to the government, here who will have a special cabinet

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Speaker 2: meeting to make a. Decision don't you believe? That did

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Speaker 2: you think we were getting? Played and the whole thing's

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Speaker 2: been prettydetermined and they're just. Pretending did. You, Hey by the,

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Speaker 2: way have a look at the last time they voted

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Speaker 2: in that part of the world and then just tell

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Speaker 2: me who they voted. For and then once you've worked

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Speaker 2: out who they voted, for try and convince me that's

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Speaker 2: not going to be a problem going. Forward mike better news.

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Speaker 2: Story CAN i suggest Using Phil SPENCER'S TVs at homes

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Speaker 2: program for. Tourism it's, Amazing yes it. IS i watched

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Speaker 2: episode two yesterday wanaka Ha hay In. QUEENSTOWN i can't work.

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Speaker 2: Out the only downside is some of the architects from

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Speaker 2: the first series have turned up in the second, series

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Speaker 2: indicating perhaps we've only got three good architects in the,

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Speaker 2: country which worries. Me or you've got people who can

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Speaker 2: only afford three good architects in the, country or you've

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Speaker 2: got a lot of people building beautiful homes they just

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Speaker 2: don't want to be ON. TV i don't, know but

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Speaker 2: the same people just keep. Reappearing but ha hai the

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Speaker 2: beach out Ha hay in the latest episode.

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Speaker 14: Unreal could it just be a case of you like this,

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Speaker 14: house you want to go over to hey and see.

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Speaker 2: Five away from, seven the ins and the.

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Speaker 1: Ouse it's the fizz with business favor take your business

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Speaker 1: product to the next.

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Speaker 2: Level medium sized businesses in the country but split at the.

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Speaker 2: Moment on the outlook for the, year THE nyob people

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Speaker 2: have done the survey five hundred leaders and decision makers

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Speaker 2: mediums twenty to one hundred. Employees by the, way twenty

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Speaker 2: to one, hundred forty six percent seen an increase in.

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Speaker 2: Revenue good thirty percent say the revenue is the, same

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Speaker 2: so that's seventy six percent of people are either holding

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Speaker 2: steady or going forward twenty four. Down majority is so

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Speaker 2: to expect revenue to grow for the next twelve. Months

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Speaker 2: that's fifty one, Percent so just a majority of. It,

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Speaker 2: no the less majority's. Majority thirty percent say it will

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Speaker 2: stay the, same but two thirds have got work locked

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Speaker 2: in for the rest of the. Year i've got worked

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Speaker 2: and locked in for the rest of the. YEAR i

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Speaker 2: Think i'm good for their for rest of.

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Speaker 14: Them i'm still on a day by day.

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Speaker 2: You, are but you're working. Hard thirty seven percent of

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Speaker 2: construction and trade businesses say they've got more work lined

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Speaker 2: up competed with the same period last. Year what concerns

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Speaker 2: do we? Have, well forty four percent say international banking

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Speaker 2: and financial stability is the biggest. Concern is? It international?

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Speaker 2: Banking we've not worried about, That glenn for a long,

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Speaker 2: period have. We we've put that behind. Us forty three

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Speaker 2: percent say shipping and financial. Costs forty one percent shipping route.

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Speaker 2: Disruptions i'd agree with, that, actually thirty three percent geopolitical. Tensions,

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Speaker 2: See i'd put geopolitical tensions way higher than international. BANKING

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Speaker 2: i sort of considered them to be the same thing

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Speaker 2: it could, be but that's because you were permanently confused

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Speaker 2: just under a. Quarter so they're aiming to grow their

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Speaker 2: presence domestically as an alternative do. EXPORTING i find that

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Speaker 2: probably the most interesting part of. That can you as

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Speaker 2: a business if you're sending stuff off To, Australia china Or,

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Speaker 2: america suddenly tell you What i'm going to do it,

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Speaker 2: domestically big, court but always good to get an insight

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Speaker 2: into the medium sized businesses in this. Country Andrew king's

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Speaker 2: going to talk to us About oh here we, go

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Speaker 2: hold On Andrew, King simon wattson ward when it could

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Speaker 2: be for the. Week Andrew king is going to talk

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Speaker 2: to us about. Schools but he's In, korea and have

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Speaker 2: you seen the time and career at the moment he's

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Speaker 2: joining us from the very early hours of A korean,

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Speaker 2: morning right after the, news which is Next.

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Speaker 1: Jesus opinion and everything in, between the mic costing breakfast

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Speaker 1: With raindrover leading by, Example, news togs dead.

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Speaker 2: Be seven past seven, yesterday it was health, today it's.

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Speaker 2: Education more money four hundred and thirteen million of. It

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Speaker 2: we've got fifty eight million on operating maintenance two hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty five for rural and isolated schools one hundred

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Speaker 2: million over five years for urgent infrastructure. Work Andrew king

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Speaker 2: is the president of The Rural Schools Leadership, association is with. Us,

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Speaker 2: andrew morning to.

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Speaker 1: You good Morning mike this.

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Speaker 2: Insite i'm, well thank you this emphasis on rural and.

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Speaker 2: Isolated is this a sector that's been? Neglected, YES i.

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Speaker 15: Would say that there's been a lot of need there

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Speaker 15: for a long time around basic, infrastructure and the cost

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Speaker 15: of getting trades people out there has been an, issue

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Speaker 15: AND i think this will boast and enable schools to

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Speaker 15: get things done.

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Speaker 2: Good do you have a specific sense of what it

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Speaker 2: literally buys you and what it actually?

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Speaker 15: Solves not, yet BUT i guess the devil will be

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Speaker 15: in the, detail which has yet to. Come but there's

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Speaker 15: a lot of things that we're trying that rural schools

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Speaker 15: try and do on their. Own but of course you

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Speaker 15: don't have the economies of scale when you're trying to

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Speaker 15: individually purchase drainage or lighting or carpet or. Whatever and

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Speaker 15: so this program Coordinat Atika hurd on you that's getting

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Speaker 15: extra investment will enable schools to pull together and get

646
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Speaker 15: things actually.

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00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: Done that's. ENCOURAGING i don't want to make it too,

648
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: political but when the, government the previous government was spending

649
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: money like there was literally no, tomorrow how come none

650
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: of this got? Done? Then if this is just repair, work.

651
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 15: Well the program was put in place in twenty, TWENTY

652
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 15: i think it. Was but this has boasted the boasted the. Fund,

653
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Speaker 15: really it's put extra money in there so more things

654
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Speaker 15: can be done through.

655
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Speaker 2: It because the difficulty is that how much of its

656
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Speaker 2: patchwork versus how much of it's actually enhancing or improving.

657
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: Something that's a very good.

658
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 15: QUESTION i think it is pretty much basic services to ensure.

659
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Speaker 15: THAT i think what's happened in the past as rural

660
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Speaker 15: schools have not got things done simply because of the

661
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Speaker 15: cost of getting trades people out there to get the work.

662
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 15: Done so a lot of it is basic. INFRASTRUCTURE i

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Speaker 15: think it might also include things like water services and effluent,

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Speaker 15: services which is a big issue and need for rural

665
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Speaker 15: schools to get up to.

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Speaker 2: Scratch While i've got you the sector changes coming in

667
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Speaker 2: from The minister in terms of, subjects, curriculum et. Cetera

668
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Speaker 2: are you broadly on?

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Speaker 15: Board, yeah broadly on. Board, yes, yep.

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Speaker 2: Good appreciate you getting up early. Too that Is Andrew,

671
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Speaker 2: king who is the president of The New Zealand Rural

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Speaker 2: Schools Leadership association WITH us out Of South. Korea he

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Speaker 2: is a, nominee of, course for The Simon Watts list

674
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Speaker 2: of getting up early in the. Morning the recipient so,

675
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Speaker 2: FAR i will give you in just a couple of,

676
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Speaker 2: moments non minutes past Seven Pasky Holiday zac shakeup coming.

677
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: Today they're looking to simplify the law reduced compliance burdens

678
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: move to AN ow based a crural model for. Leve

679
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: allan McDonald as The Employer's Manufacturer's Association head Of advocacy

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00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: and is with. Us, ellen very good morning to. You

681
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: are you hopeful? Today?

682
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 11: OH i think we are and just really looking forward

683
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 11: to getting this out of the. Way it's been a

684
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 11: long a few years trying to get this thing.

685
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: Done do you think it will be? Done do you

686
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: have a sense of what's? Coming have you been given

687
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: a heads up or?

688
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: No?

689
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,719
Speaker 11: OH i think a couple of the key things that

690
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 11: we're after we'd like to see comment will come in

691
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Speaker 11: and that day will be the hour of your cruel

692
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 11: that you referred to earlier which just simplifies everything for

693
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 11: employers and takes the thing out of the back pay

694
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 11: issue that we've got at the. Moment and ALSO i

695
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 11: think the reduction a certain moment part and casual. Workers

696
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Speaker 11: part time and casuals get ten days. Sickly that came

697
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Speaker 11: in at the end OF, covid and we've been asking

698
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 11: since then or before then for pro rata for part

699
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Speaker 11: and casual, workers AND i think we'll get that.

700
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: Too so when that's, announced will you have twenty four

701
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: hours at the union screaming and that'll be?

702
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 16: THAT i don't.

703
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 11: KNOW i think there will be some political trade, off

704
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 11: but actually both employees and employers benefit from. This there's

705
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 11: a couple of little swings and roundabouts where employees will

706
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Speaker 11: get a a slight list in one of the part

707
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 11: payments they. Get also they get their sickly even their

708
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 11: annual eve and toitlements from day. One at the moment

709
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 11: you have to wait for twelve.

710
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: MONTHS i, Look i'm completely out of touch with this

711
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: Because i've only ever been employed on a contract AND

712
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: i GET x number of dollars a year to turn

713
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: up and talk to people like. You and that's the.

714
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: Beginning the middle and the end of, It And i've

715
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: always enjoyed that because it's incredibly simple and you know

716
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: where you. Are is employment in this country too?

717
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 11: COMPLEX i think the holiday's, actors AND i think everybody,

718
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 11: agrees because it's cost some businesses tens of millions of,

719
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 11: dollars it's cost others tens of thousands of. Dollars and

720
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Speaker 11: of course the government's got two point two billion set

721
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 11: aside from back pay on holiday pay in the public

722
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Speaker 11: sector and both in education and the health.

723
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: Sector and so does that flush through today with time

724
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: with the, Changes in other, words you will solve that

725
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: problem as of today or the, changes, yeah or or. Whenever,

726
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: yeah but it'll take.

727
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 11: Time it's about probably two years away from getting the

728
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 11: legislation in place because you've got to rewrite software and

729
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 11: all that kind of. Stuff and then there's a transition.

730
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 11: Issue so what actually happens with all those historical, claims

731
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Speaker 11: because you can go back six, years SO i would

732
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 11: imagine that might be where some of the tension comes. From,

733
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 11: WELL i don't think they'll do away with the six

734
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Speaker 11: year's ability to claim back, though so but we'll.

735
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: See all, right let's see what happens to day two

736
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: o'clock this. Afternoon i'm Told allen, McDonald excuse, Me employers

737
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: And Manufacturers, association head of, advocacy twelve minutes past. Seven,

738
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Speaker 2: yes as Regards Simon, watts just to bring you up

739
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: to speed if you missed it at the. Time third Of,

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Speaker 2: september we, said, Hey, sich come on the. Program he,

741
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: Goes i'm In, canberra as though that's the. Thing so

742
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: he would need to be up at five point thirty

743
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: in the, morning as though that's a thing, anyway wouldn't

744
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: come on the. Program so we've just gone around and

745
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: just got people in far flung parts of the world

746
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: to come on the program in the early. Hour so

747
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: ninth Of, September Billy moore from The Airport's association got

748
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Speaker 2: up at ten to four in the. Morning In. China

749
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Speaker 2: eighteenth Of, September Paul SPAIN i remember it. Clearly he

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Speaker 2: was In. Singapore so he's up at three point. Fifteen

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Speaker 2: nineteenth Of. September Mark, Patterson Associate minister A bag he's

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Speaker 2: up until midnight In. China and the twenty third Of

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Speaker 2: September Andrew, king as you've just, heard he came on

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00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: at four o'clock in the. Morning In South. Korea so

755
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Speaker 2: we've got some good exciting. People Now i've also got

756
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Speaker 2: some very interesting news for you that's embargoed until five to. Eight,

757
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Speaker 2: now they shouldn't present me with embargoed, material because especially

758
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Speaker 2: something as stupid as five to. Eight who invented an

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Speaker 2: embargo at five to? Eight, Now i'm going to ponder,

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Speaker 2: this And i'm going to think to myself whether or

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Speaker 2: NOT i should be breaking the embargo BECAUSE i tell

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00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: you something it's. Interesting thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full show podcast On iHeartRadio Howard

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Speaker 1: By News talks at B.

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Speaker 2: Hi, mike we should Mention mark Mitchellow west turns up.

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Speaker 2: Anytime that is. True but from the one time he

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Speaker 2: slept In, dubai he doesn't like me raising. That mike

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Speaker 2: is such a Teas via. Reveeled you know What i'm

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Speaker 2: tempted to. DO i Think i'm going To Mike huntley

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Speaker 2: Hole it's chrome to important transport millions of tons of

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Speaker 2: dirty Brown indonesian cold At New zealand can't Afford. Phil wake,

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Speaker 2: Up wake up and join the news. Program. Phil we

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Speaker 2: have the person in the. Arter it was announced, Yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Philly you're not up on the. News the news is

776
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Speaker 2: nothing but good for. You more shortly, meantime seventeen pass

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Speaker 2: were forecasting and improvement in the Forecast earth. Scientists they've

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Speaker 2: got a new supercomputer they're called It, cascade USES ai

779
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: to predict the weather. Patterns the claimers that can produce

780
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Speaker 2: a five day forecast as good as a two day.

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Speaker 2: Forecast but then the next, question, obviously is a two

782
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 2: day forecast really any? Good Chris brandolino as new as principal,

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Speaker 2: scientist and as with, Us, chris good, Morning, hey good morning.

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Speaker 2: Mate is a two day any?

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Speaker 9: GOOD i?

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Speaker 10: Think?

787
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Speaker 9: So why?

788
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 6: Not?

789
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: Well because sometimes it's, wrong.

790
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 9: That's a negative way of looking at. THINGS a lot

791
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 9: of times it's.

792
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 17: Right so what do we?

793
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: Do what do we base the ratio? On if it's

794
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: right more than fifty, percent then it's more right than it's.

795
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: Wrong so that's fair enough as it.

796
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 9: Well look of mine is their. Skill there is skill

797
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 9: in weather. Forecasting it's not. PERFECT i mean part of it.

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00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 9: Is you, know if you ask a, person you, know

799
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 9: what do you define a perfect? Forecast IF i say

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00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 9: it's going to be twenty one degrees In auckland in

801
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Speaker 9: The hits twenty.

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00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 17: Two is that?

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Speaker 9: ACCURATE i would think that's pretty dark, accurate you know

804
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 9: WHAT i?

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00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: Mean the scale up we've got here in. Sophistication is

806
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: this just going to go exponential AS ii builds and.

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00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 9: Grows, YEAH i think the big Thing i'll Guess i'll

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Speaker 9: answer it this. One i'm not a supercomputer. NERD i

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00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 9: wish it, was but anonymal weather. NERD i think one

810
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 9: of the main things to kind of tell you and

811
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 9: your listeners is that this Supercomputer cascade is about three

812
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 9: times more powerful than its. Predecessor so it does computing

813
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 9: speeds of two point four ready for this, Petaflops and

814
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 9: you're probably, wondering what the heck is a? Petaflop so

815
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 9: imagine if the Entire, earth about eight billion, people everyone

816
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 9: was doing three hundred three hundred thousand calculations per second

817
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 9: at the same. Time that's the capability of the. Supercomputer

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Speaker 9: and because and the reason we need THAT mic is

819
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Speaker 9: because data is become king or QUEEN i, suppose and

820
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 9: with so much more data coming, in we need to

821
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 9: leverage that. DATA i think the Analogy i've been, using

822
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 9: which may, resonate is that imagine a restaurant getting a

823
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 9: brand new, kitchen and that kitchen really increases the. Capability

824
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Speaker 9: the oven cooks, faster so you get the dishes out.

825
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 9: Quicker you have better tools things like, that so you're

826
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Speaker 9: able to operate more effectively and do different things that

827
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Speaker 9: maybe you wouldn't be able to do.

828
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Speaker 2: Before, yeah what's maximum value from a commercial scalable point of?

829
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Speaker 2: View given WHAT ai is going to do is in

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Speaker 2: a five day, forecast seven, day ten, day one, month team.

831
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Speaker 9: Year WHAT i think it's all of, That SO i

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Speaker 9: guess to take you on a bit of a. Journey

833
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 9: so one of the things we can do now with

834
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Speaker 9: our high res, model which goes out to your favorite

835
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 9: time span it sounds like two. Days that used to

836
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Speaker 9: run on the old, supercomputer it will take one hundred

837
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Speaker 9: and eighty. Minutes now it takes eighty, Minutes so that's. Better.

838
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 9: Okay what about longer range? Predicting so most times when

839
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 9: people go to an, app they you, know look at

840
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 9: their favorite weather. App that's what we call. Deterministic that's

841
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 9: simply one outcome and that's, Okay but in, reality there's

842
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 9: a lot of outcomes that could. Happen so we have

843
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 9: an ensemble model that has eighteen different. Outcomes we're going

844
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Speaker 9: to expand the rectangle it looks at Over New zealand

845
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Speaker 9: to go up to The, pacific To New, caledoni out

846
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Speaker 9: To Aussie melbourne and down to The Southern, ocean so

847
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Speaker 9: BETTER i guess larger area we're monitoring in terms of

848
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Speaker 9: modeling with our, ensemble and then over the next year or,

849
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Speaker 9: so we're going to be looking to increase that from

850
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Speaker 9: five days to ten, days so we're gaining not only

851
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 9: areas to get insight, on but also the time ten

852
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Speaker 9: days and then there's longer longer, rains forecasting five, weeks six,

853
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 9: weeks and getting a better understanding of what themes may

854
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 9: be come in their way FOR i think for planning

855
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 9: and getting some heads up as to, hey in three

856
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 9: or four weeks there's a signal that it could be

857
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 9: really dry or on the other end of the, spectrum really,

858
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 9: wet and then monitoring that and getting people prepared for

859
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 9: potentially some large scale big weather events or things like

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Speaker 2: more than a quarter of kids are struggling for. Food

889
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: that's what The selles told us. Yesterday more than the

890
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: quarter of kids are struggling for. Food they talk of food.

891
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: Security it's, bad according to The, sellies and it's getting.

892
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: Worse are they telling us over a quarter of? Kids

893
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 2: twenty seven percent of, kids to be, precise can't get. Food,

894
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: now the definition they use is The United nations one

895
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 2: people having access to safe and nutritious food towards a healthy.

896
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 2: Life now that's the problem with people like The sellies

897
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 2: quoting groups like The United. Nations what THE un mean

898
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: in that circumstance is the sort of food security you

899
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: have In GAZA i eat, none or floodplain regions or

900
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: drought prone. Regions that definition is not designed for Wealthy

901
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: First world, countries of which we are. One SO i

902
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 2: feel The sellies are mis interpreting what the un means

903
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: and using it for political, purpose i. E the idea

904
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 2: that we can't get access to. Food they then claim

905
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: or make some claims around, cost which is of course

906
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: different to, access ALTHOUGH i suppose technically cost can prevent

907
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 2: access in the sense you can't afford. It they cite, meat,

908
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: dairy fruit and vegetables as part of what's gone. Wrong

909
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: but just quickly they, argue and this is the really dangerous.

910
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: Part the food we sell to the. World this is their,

911
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: push the food we sell to the world should be

912
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: prioritized first to. Locals here they don't for a moment

913
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: suggest who would pay for, that Although i'm guessing they

914
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: think the. Government yet, again so the major income earner

915
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: for the country should be adjusted until we all get

916
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: the meat and butter that we. Want is that what

917
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: they're saying, anyway they claim on, dairy meat and vege, dairy,

918
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 2: yes we know. Why that's actually good for the. Country, meat,

919
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: well that can be, expensive doesn't have to be that,

920
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: Expensive and fruit and vegetables is actually not as they

921
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: claim up in. Price in, fact if we look at

922
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: the latest, numbers a lot of it's down and any given,

923
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: season fruit and vegetables can in fact be a, bargain of,

924
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: Course so the upshot of their plea is it is

925
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: as always driven by emotion not, fact and to be.

926
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: BLIND i don't actually believe in excess of a quarter

927
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: of all kids in this country don't get. Food do

928
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: you believe? That do you believe that twenty seven percent

929
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: of kids in this country don't get access to? Food

930
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: part of, it of, course will be bad parenting and

931
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: bad choices to solve a, problem you, see if there

932
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Speaker 2: is indeed a problem at, all you need fact and

933
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: an understanding of the, fact and logical sensible, solutions not

934
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: a motive clickbait alarmism that doesn't stand up to. Scrutiny

935
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Speaker 2: this is a.

936
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Speaker 1: News talk said be developing?

937
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Speaker 2: Story is that an overuse of a developing? Story, Sting

938
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Speaker 2: i'm just here goes we have to find. Out here

939
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Speaker 2: Is macron with his passion For.

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Speaker 18: Palestine, nothing nothing justifies the ongoing war In. Gaza, Nothing

941
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Speaker 18: on the, contrary everything compels us to definitively and. It

942
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Speaker 18: since we didn't do it, earlier we must do this

943
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Speaker 18: to save.

944
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Speaker 2: Lives this is.

945
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Speaker 18: WHY i declare that Today france recognized the state Of.

946
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Speaker 18: Palestine OH i love that.

947
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Speaker 2: At THE u In mama love a bit of. That

948
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Speaker 2: so That's, macron That starmer was there somebody else that

949
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Speaker 2: was a third person sometime this week coming? UP i

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Speaker 2: mean apart From. Winston obviously it's the whole. World Who.

951
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Speaker 2: Australia well they already did, it didn't. They so that's

952
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Speaker 2: three so we stand by From winston see other overused

953
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Speaker 2: line of the. Week, honestly when the media he says

954
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: the world is watching, us does anyone actually believe that?

955
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: It's In New zealand's home for Trusted news And, views

956
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: the mic Asking breakfast With Bailey's Real estate covering all

957
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Speaker 1: your real estate needs use Togs head been.

958
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Speaker 2: Order to catch up With Hartman finn in the studio

959
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: after eight o'clock this, morning twenty three to. Eight good

960
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: news for The indonesian col. Haters we've got a deal

961
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: For huntley with some local coal to generate the. Power

962
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 2: genesis AND Bt mining have signed a two year deal

963
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: to supply two hundred and forty thousand tons of the.

964
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: Stuff In Malcolm john's as THE ceo Of Genesis energy

965
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 2: and as well As malcolm, morning good, morning how are

966
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Speaker 2: you very? Well? Indeed how come this has said this

967
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: is not a, criticism just a general. Inquiry how come

968
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: this has taken so? Long given the number of Texts

969
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: i've got From indonesian coal and the coal haters and,

970
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 2: stuff why haven't we gone local ages?

971
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 19: Ago, well we've bought all the local coal that we've

972
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 19: been able to put Through huntley up until this, point

973
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 19: and that's been about ten thousand tons a. Year we

974
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 19: now have a supply that's around ten thousand tons a

975
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 19: month and is economically competitive With indonesian. Coal so we've

976
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 19: gone ahead and signed an.

977
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: Agreement how does that? Unfold is this a deal to

978
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: potentially go, forever a deal to potentially increase sort of

979
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: phase out with time as we go more.

980
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 19: Renewable, well we've always focused on Purchasing New zealand coal

981
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 19: as a. Priority it has to be economically competitive with

982
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 19: other coal because we've focused on the price of electricity,

983
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 19: ultimately and as the gas has begun to retreat here

984
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 19: In New, zealand we've had to use more coal to replace.

985
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 19: That when the wind doesn't blow and the rain doesn't.

986
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: Come do we get to a point and if it,

987
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: is when is? It as the gas runs out but

988
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: the renewables, increase that we're all, renewable no, gas no.

989
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 19: Coal it's, unlikely just because of the fact that we

990
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 19: rely so heavily On Mother nature to deliver, rain wind and.

991
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 19: Sun but we will become more renewable as we go,

992
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 19: forward so we'll we'll use less gas and less, coal

993
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 19: but when we need, it we'll need quite a lot of.

994
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: It how worried about gas are? You?

995
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 19: Very you, know gas has been producing between six and

996
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 19: eight percent Of New zealand's electricity every year for a long,

997
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 19: time and it's no longer available to do, that and

998
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 19: that's causing less electricity in the, system and that's leading

999
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 19: to the price pinchers that we've seen over the last

1000
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 19: twelve months or.

1001
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: So and these reports that we keep hearing about with

1002
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 2: the there seems an element of. Alarmism in other, words

1003
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: we're finding this out as we go. Along it's getting

1004
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: worse by the. Day is that what the industry sees as?

1005
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 2: Well in other, words you learn as we learn.

1006
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 19: Pretty much basically all our fields are reaching end of,

1007
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 19: life particularly offshore fields and off Field, sorry an end

1008
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 19: of life field has become far less predictable and you're

1009
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 19: prone to sudden declines like we've experienced over the last

1010
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 19: twelve to eighteen.

1011
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: Months and so when you say end of, life you

1012
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: don't mean literally no. Gas you just mean that the

1013
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: demand outstrips the.

1014
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 19: Supply, No i'm meaning that as a gas well comes

1015
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 19: to the end of, life it's, production its production becomes,

1016
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 19: unpredictable and it will at some stage cease to. Produce.

1017
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: Wow so given our, predicament where does that leave coal long? Term?

1018
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 19: Well at the, moment we're effectively leaning back on coal

1019
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 19: to secure our electricity system because we're able to do.

1020
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 19: That we're very lucky that we're able to do, that

1021
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 19: otherwise the energy crunch we're in would be far more.

1022
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 19: Significant but, obviously AS i, said you, know gas has

1023
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 19: played two critical. Roles one is it's delivered base load

1024
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 19: electricity about sixty eight percent of. It and then we've

1025
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 19: used it to back up the hydro lakes during dry,

1026
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 19: years and it's just simply not available to do that.

1027
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: Anymore and As huntley up to this going forward and

1028
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: in an increase in capacity or Not.

1029
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 19: Huntley is at capacity in terms of its ability to

1030
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 19: secure the electricity, system there will need to be other

1031
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 19: interventions going forward to secure the. System for, example we

1032
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 19: Have oney four hundred megawatts of wind. Generation we can

1033
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 19: lose ninety percent of that in a wind, hole And

1034
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 19: huntley can only provide around seven hundred and twenty megawatts of.

1035
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 19: Backup so seven hundred and twenty plays fourteen. Hundred you

1036
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 19: can see the maths don't.

1037
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: Work so where DO i with the potential for implortation

1038
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: of gas that the government raised about a year.

1039
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 19: Ago, well that's been looked. At it's a difficult, proposition

1040
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,959
Speaker 19: but ultimately some form of gas supply or some form

1041
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 19: of coal supply is going to be essential to securing

1042
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 19: a high renewable s grid at least for the next

1043
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 19: ten to fifteen, years because you, know we're a small

1044
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 19: island and sometimes it doesn't, rain and when you get

1045
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 19: a break high pressure system over the, country the wind stops.

1046
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 19: Everywhere and so that's the reality of a high renewables

1047
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 19: grid as you're going to have to secure it with SOMETHING.

1048
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: I like, nuclear AND i have for, years And i'm

1049
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: Assuming i'm completely wasting my time even having the conversation

1050
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: of this, country BUT i look to the world and

1051
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: nuclear is back and back in a big. Way have

1052
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: we missed a trick or were we never in the.

1053
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 19: Game, well nuclear is not lawful In New. Zealand it's

1054
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 19: not something anyone That i'm aware of is looking, at

1055
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 19: although there's a lot of research going on into different

1056
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 19: types of nuclear and different scales of. Nuclear and you,

1057
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 19: know that's something that the rest of the world is looking.

1058
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: At and are they doing that in a sense of

1059
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: some wisdom that we may, regret do you think or?

1060
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 19: Not, WELL i, think particularly AS ai and data centers

1061
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 19: begin to populate the, world energy is going to become

1062
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 19: something that is critically challenging for a high technology. Future

1063
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 19: and every, country Every western country in the, world is

1064
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 19: grappling with the challenges That New zealand is grappling with

1065
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 19: as we transition our energy.

1066
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: Systems, well, exactly, so if we transition ours using more

1067
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: coal At, huntley how do we bring in these data

1068
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: centers and run THE ai when we can barely run.

1069
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 19: Ourselves, WELL i think it's important to remember that we've

1070
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 19: got more than enough renewable opportunities and more than enough

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Speaker 19: people wanting to invest in those renewable opportunities to meet

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Speaker 19: all of that demand in the. Future what we're talking

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Speaker 19: about is how we bring energy security into that and

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Speaker 19: that's a role That huntley. Plays as we build more,

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Speaker 19: solar we'll be able to use our hydro lakes more

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00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 19: to do that job as. Well so no one thing

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Speaker 19: is going to solve. This it's going to be a

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00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 19: range of options that are needed to secure a high

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Speaker 19: renewable energy.

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Speaker 2: System always enjoy the, chap malcomppreciate. It Malcolm john's who

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Speaker 2: is The genesis chief, Executive Mollie, mike surely a couple

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Speaker 2: of nuclear power stations are becoming a no? Brainer, no

1083
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Speaker 2: they won't be in this. Country you won't even have

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Speaker 2: the conversation. Guarantee it's a boat we will miss in

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00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 2: thirty years, time twenty years, time we will regret, it

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00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 2: mark my, Words. Mike we're lucky to still Have. Huntly

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Speaker 2: The key government had a quote on decommissioning the power

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Speaker 2: plant when they held the. Power it's, interesting isn't how life?

1089
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 2: Turns and where once coal was hated and it needed

1090
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: to be gotten rid of, forthwith And huntley was a,

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00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: geriatric old facility that could be pushed into the river

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00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: and never to be thought of. Again and yet all

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Speaker 2: of a, sudden look how reliant we are on. It seventeen, too.

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Speaker 2: Be fourteen away from A kimmel's back as of tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Night so that's a that's a major the theory or

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Speaker 2: thinking has just literally been. Announced but the theory is

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Speaker 2: That disney they were taking such a hit from cancel

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Speaker 2: subscriptions billions of, dollars so they. Panicked business is, funny isn't?

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Speaker 2: It what happened to morals and? Business so what happened

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Speaker 2: to the morals of the business when initially they decided

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Speaker 2: to pull them because they were under threat from the

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Speaker 2: what's it called THE, cia whatever the hell the FEDERAL.

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Speaker 2: Faa so where were the morals? Then and then all

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Speaker 2: of a, sudden the bottom lines at where are the morals? Now,

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Speaker 2: SO i, mean what is they're backing free? Speech they

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00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 2: into free speech and not really, well they're into the bottom.

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00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: Line you can't bang, morals, mate you can't think, no

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Speaker 2: that is. Free you. Can't you can't get an overdrivet with. Morals,

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Speaker 2: now Technically i'm breaking the, embargo but you, know this

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Speaker 2: is this is this is actually a really interesting piece of.

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Speaker 2: News so there are two new skilled migrant residence. PATHWAYS

1114
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: i think the speech has been given twenty minutes, ago

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00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 2: so who. Cares two skilled migrant resident pathways have been

1116
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 2: announced this. Morning this is all part of the. Government

1117
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: the government are turning on the taps big time to

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00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: get people into this country to grow the, economy and

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00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: not a moment too. Soon so we've got two new

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Speaker 2: skilled migrant resident pathways as of mid next. Year Skilled

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Speaker 2: Work Experience, pathway so skilled roles who have at least

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Speaker 2: five years of directly relevant work, experience including at least

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Speaker 2: two years of experience here where they've been paid at

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00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: least one point one times the median. Wage so barely.

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Speaker 2: HIGH i, mean it's hardly big. Money Is it's not

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Speaker 2: like AN h ONE PVISA b or whatever they call

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Speaker 2: it In. America then you've got Your trades And technician

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00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 2: pathway migrants and specified skilled roles who hold a relevant

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Speaker 2: qualification at level four or above or have at least

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00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: four years of relevant post qualification skilled work, experience including

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00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: at least eighteen months In New zealand where they've been

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00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: paid at or above the median. Wage so those are

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00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: the two areas they're opening up. To that is good

1134
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 2: comes off the back of WHAT i thought was quite

1135
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: a nice idea from some people running a cafe In,

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00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: wellington who, go, look you've got to give us a.

1137
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: Pathway you've got to give us some. Help we literally

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00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: cannot get New. Zealanders are there New zealanders who could

1139
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: be waiters and? Waitresses are there people who learn to

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00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: be a barista and working? Cafes, yes of course there

1141
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: are tens of thousands of. Them are They? No so

1142
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: the tricky part is what does the government do about?

1143
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: That do they force people into the hospitality to help

1144
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 2: these people, out or as The wellington cafes, arguing give

1145
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 2: us an official, pathway there are people from offshore who

1146
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: want to come, in who want to make hospitality a

1147
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: career for. Themselves one of the pathways, is of, course

1148
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: you come in and buy your own, business you, know

1149
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: put your family and kids in there and run your

1150
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: own cafe and do it that. Way but you, know

1151
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 2: for people who just want to work in a, cafe

1152
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: it's a real problem getting, workers and so their argument

1153
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: is let's create a. Pathway. Now the twist of the,

1154
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: story and the Reason i'm reasonably interested in, this is

1155
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 2: That winston hasked the agree to, disagree WHICH i Think

1156
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: i'm right in saying has not happened. Before active done

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Speaker 2: IT i think. Twice But New, zealand, FIRST i don't

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00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 2: think have done it. Anyway they've got. Problems they're concerned

1159
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: that those who gain residency will become citizens and then

1160
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: using The New zealand passports will leave for fast tracked

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00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: visas In. Australia New zealand is being used as a

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00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: stepping stone Into, australia AND i think the stats as

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00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: they currently stand would prove that to be. True and

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00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: so if you can come To New zealand and get

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00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 2: easy access and become you, know a whatever next Stop,

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00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: australia then leaders might have a. Point but that's this morning's.

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Speaker 14: Annow it's actually the second time they've used. It they

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Speaker 14: used it last year with THE covid inquiry when they.

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Speaker 2: Decided so is that two For act and two For

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Speaker 2: New zealand? FIRST i think that. Is we'll come back

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00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: with official confirmation of that in the. Moment Tender way.

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Speaker 1: The make Casting breakfast with rainthrow Bern Us tom Sed,

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Speaker 1: bright he.

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Speaker 2: Is From disney Which JONES Abc Jimmy Kimmel live would.

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Speaker 2: Return show would resume. Tomorrow Last, wednesday we made the

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00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: decision to suspend, production and we got the two and

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00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: two confirmation on two For act and to The New

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Speaker 2: zealand first yet we have, okay it's two and. Two

1179
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 2: so Last wednesday we made the decision to suspend production

1180
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: on the show to avoid further inflaming a tense situation

1181
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 2: and an emotional moment for our. Country it's a decision

1182
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: we made because we felt some of the comments were

1183
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: ill timed and thus and. Sensitive, really so we're just

1184
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: pulling television shows off when we're a bit and? Sensitive

1185
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 2: are we to give me.

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Speaker 7: A break too?

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Speaker 2: Soon does anyone believe this? Crap we've spent the last

1188
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 2: days having thoughtful conversations With. Jimmy what they mean is

1189
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: his lawyers have been hounding us the whole, time and

1190
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 2: after those, conversations we reached the decision to return the Show. Tuesday,

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00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 2: previously of, course they said he would have to publicly.

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00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: APOLOGIZE i assume he's not going to do that because

1193
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: he didn't really do anything that outrageous and we all know.

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00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 2: It and that's the difficulty of all of the speaking

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Speaker 2: of the. Media just a couple of things THAT i

1196
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: need to inform, you but be get your feedback. On

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00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: so The Prime Minister's, office i read in The herald this,

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Speaker 2: morning is refusing to release communications Between Christopher luxen and

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Speaker 2: an individual associated With Travis. Kelcey this goes back to

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Speaker 2: the wedding, announcement the engagement, announcement When luxon said there's

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Speaker 2: no better place Than New zealand to hold their wedding

1202
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 2: or have their. Honeymoon kelsey And, taita he said in a,

1203
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: speech this Is, luxon one of my best friends In

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00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: america is actually in business With. Travis so The herald

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00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: requested that communication With kelsey's business partner under The Official Information.

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00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: Act my, question my main question here is is that

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00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 2: an abuse of The Official Information. Act, mean, honestly one

1208
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: of the problem you have with The Official Information act

1209
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: in this country is getting access to. Information and part

1210
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: of the argument is they'll argue they be snowed, under

1211
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: and they're snowed under with a sort of. Crap so

1212
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 2: the guy, said you, know it was a nice thing to. Do,

1213
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: anyway The prime Minist As office said they're refusing it

1214
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: because the communications referenced in the media was seen and

1215
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: received By luxeon in his capacity as a private, individual

1216
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 2: not as a prime minist which seems, legit but, REALLY i,

1217
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: mean we just officially information grabbing everything these.

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Speaker 14: Days being stupid and, pointless the same as.

1219
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Speaker 2: Abusing it's not a bad. Question we'll have some thoughtful

1220
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: conversations about, It, glenn and see if we're here. Tomorrow

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Speaker 2: independent review by the, way By Television New, zealand this

1222
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: is the one to really get you racked up this.

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00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: Morning so are they biased AS tv AND z news. Biased,

1224
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Speaker 2: no that's official because they've done their independent review this,

1225
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: morning only minor, issues no evidence of systemic bias or

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00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: lack of. Impartiality they are also refusing TO i hope

1227
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: the heroes listening to. This they're refusing to release the,

1228
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: report so obviously The herald straight onto The Official Information.

1229
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: Act the review includes comment on SPECIFIC tv, EMPLOYEES tv

1230
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: and said, employees so they don't want that release into

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00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: the public. Domain it was done by a FORMER abc

1232
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: AND sbs executive guy Called Allen, sunderland WHO i know

1233
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 2: not of. Him the review took place over a seven day,

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00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 2: period which doesn't sound particularly comprehensive to. Me seven, days but,

1235
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 2: anyway be that as it. May here's my main. Point

1236
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: the point is, this if you BELIEVE tv one is.

1237
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: Biased you BELIEVE tv one is, biased and no one

1238
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: Called allen is going to write a report to change your,

1239
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: Mind is it? Really if you've, decided you've. Decided So

1240
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: one then, wonders what was the point of the report

1241
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: so that we can all sit around and, go, yes

1242
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: they are, no they're, Not, yes they, are, no they're.

1243
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Speaker 2: Not well they sort of. Are well what about that

1244
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Speaker 2: time they were that, well yeah that was that's. True but,

1245
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Speaker 2: no it's not that, bad isn't? IT A Harper finn

1246
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 2: is back in the studio in a couple of moments

1247
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: ahead of his debut, album and in THAT i think

1248
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: is a little bit of a. Story news is, next.

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Speaker 1: Setting me a, gender talking the big, issues the my,

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Speaker 1: costing breakfast With, vita, retirement, communities life Your, Way News

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Speaker 1: togs had been eleven past.

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01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: Day harpera catch up with half Of ferdon could have

1253
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Speaker 2: sworn when he was last year he was talking about his.

1254
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: Album but that can't be right because his debut he

1255
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 2: comes up next. Month Solo park is accompanied by a

1256
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: couple of shows in the, country and half Of finn

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01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 2: is back with This good, Morning morning. Mate right since

1258
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: we were last, Talking, yes you told me you lived In.

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Speaker 2: Dumbo is It? Dumbo, Yes, dumbo not? Anymore, no well

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Speaker 2: you move your upper east side now lower east, Side so,

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Speaker 2: yeah lower east, side the lower east side of the. Island,

1262
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: yes very. Nice is That is that sort of a

1263
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: move in the right?

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Speaker 16: DIRECTION i think so once you cross the river and

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Speaker 16: you get a little bit closer to the. City for,

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01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 16: me at least coming From New, ZEALAND i think the

1267
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 16: idea Of New york has Always manhattan being amongst the sized.

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01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: Skyscrapers because since we last, TALKED i went To New

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01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 2: york AND i ended up In. Dumbo oh, yeah and it's.

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01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: Beautiful it is, fantastic all the whole area. Is it's

1271
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: just it's, creative, vibe, nice nice place to.

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01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 16: Live oh, yeah the markets there is a really fantastic

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01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 16: market they have on the weekends underneath the archway in

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01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 16: the under the. Bridge so it seems it's a really

1275
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 16: good spot to kind of see the city because you

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01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 16: need to, be of, course on The brooklyn side to

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01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 16: really see.

1278
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 2: The hundred percent. Gate do you Think New york is you?

1279
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 2: FOREVER i think. SO i miss.

1280
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 16: It it's a place that you kind Of i've heard

1281
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 16: it can be kind of addicting in a way where

1282
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 16: you sort of you need it every so. Often but for,

1283
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 16: ME i feel very at home. THERE i, think you,

1284
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 16: Know i've spent three years there, now so.

1285
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: Now the arduousness of, it the.

1286
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 16: Grind, yeah the sort of was saying this to someone last,

1287
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 16: NIGHT i think your tough days In New york are

1288
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 16: like tougher than anywhere else in the, world but then

1289
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 16: your great days, are you, know super. Great so it

1290
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 16: sort of feels like you're kind of the highs and

1291
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 16: the lower it's quite, volatile kind of sling swing ups and.

1292
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,959
Speaker 2: Downs. Fantastic so you're. Back so last time we talked

1293
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: it was AN. Ep so we've got the. Album the

1294
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 2: debut album's taken a bit of time TO i, mean

1295
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 2: so when did you win that The Best Breakthrough? ARTIST

1296
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 2: i won that in twenty twenty, one so we've been

1297
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 2: waiting for. You have you broken? Through was?

1298
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 18: It?

1299
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 2: Yeah that's it's.

1300
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 16: FUNNY i, mean you, KNOW i went to The states

1301
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 16: to sort of effectively start, again because you, know not

1302
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 16: many people knew WHO i was In, america So i've

1303
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 16: kind of taken the time to you, know put myself

1304
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 16: through an experience that really challenged me and just sort

1305
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 16: of built myself back up, again similar to moving to

1306
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 16: a new. SCHOOL i sort of thought it's that idea

1307
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 16: of having to reintroduce yourself and sort of build yourself back.

1308
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: Up and you, know that was a part of WHAT

1309
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: i wanted.

1310
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 16: To do for this record BECAUSE i think after the,

1311
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 16: award you, KNOW i sort of felt, like you, know

1312
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 16: sort of in THOSE covid, years sort of, plateauing feeling

1313
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 16: like the scenery was feeling the. SAME i needed to

1314
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 16: have another, experience a sort of substantial experience to write.

1315
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 2: About. Wow, yeah and So New york does that for?

1316
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 2: YOU i, mean goes To New york to experienced, something

1317
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: don't they BASE i.

1318
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 16: Mean three months there is a year's worth of, activity

1319
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 16: so you kind of all your, relationships all your experiences

1320
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 16: are very. Accelerated so you, know those those three Years

1321
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 16: i've spent, THERE i felt Like i've been there for

1322
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 16: close to a.

1323
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 2: Decade and do you did you do this on your?

1324
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 2: Own this?

1325
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 16: RECORD i worked with a producer Called Sam. Evian he's

1326
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 16: An american producer who is based up In, woodstock which

1327
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 16: is WHERE i made most of this, Record so you,

1328
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 16: know would write about it in the, city or you,

1329
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 16: know did all the writing in the, city but then

1330
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 16: would go on the train up The Hudson river To

1331
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 16: woodstock to work With.

1332
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 2: Sam how much did you know About? Woodstock not.

1333
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 16: MUCH i, mean you, know found out that the festival

1334
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 16: was not actually held In.

1335
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 2: Woodstock it was you, know a little bit further up the.

1336
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 16: Road but for the sake of the tourism and, whatnot

1337
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,479
Speaker 16: it's you, Know woodstock Is. Woodstock, YEAH i mean you can't,

1338
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 16: really there's probably no more significant place for music in The.

1339
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 2: Northeast there is he there because of? That and did

1340
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 2: you ultimately record it there because of him or did

1341
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 2: you see it as a creative space that you could

1342
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: get a bit of something. THERE i think, YEAH i

1343
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 2: think the latter it. Was there's a bit of a

1344
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: scene up.

1345
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 16: There i'd, say not as many musicians live In New

1346
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 16: york as Say Los, angeles but The woodstock a lot

1347
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 16: of musicians are sort of moving up there because it's

1348
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 16: been more affordable than the. City obviously you get a

1349
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 16: lot more, space there's no noise complaints up, there and you,

1350
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 16: KNOW i think there's the music history of The BOB i,

1351
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 16: Mean Sam, evan he's a Big Bob dylan, fan so

1352
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 16: he would he would.

1353
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 2: Get on his motorcycle after we would.

1354
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 16: Record and just listen to the song weaving through the

1355
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 16: streets or, weaving you, know Upstate New.

1356
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: York so it was, like you can't really, help but

1357
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: let that affect the. Music i've never been To Upstate New,

1358
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 2: york not that anyone, cares BUT i did see a

1359
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 2: Thing Architectural digest do a really cool thing with so

1360
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: called famous people who let you into their house to

1361
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: show you. Around Walton, goggins you Know, walton he lives

1362
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: in Upstate New. York all, Right he's got a magnificent

1363
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: cabin type thing up. There it looks, beautiful that is

1364
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 2: What i'm.

1365
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 16: Saying, oh it's it's an absolutely LIKE i Think californians

1366
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 16: sort of they love to say Our New, york you,

1367
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 16: know we've got so much better nature all this THAT

1368
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 16: i have to.

1369
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: Say you leave two hours out of the city and you're.

1370
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 16: In the, forest in the, woods and there's a thick you,

1371
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 16: know green green. Wood so it was quite a magical

1372
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 16: kind of journey to leave the city this, concrete gray

1373
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 16: jungle and then you move into an actual, forest so

1374
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 16: you kind of get best of.

1375
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 2: Both words when you're. There all, right there's some hold on.

1376
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: Mate we'll come back to talk about the recording of

1377
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 2: the album at a. Moment Halper finn eleven past eight.

1378
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full show podcast on iheartradiow By News.

1379
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 2: Talk Zippy zippy was standing by For trump And tyler

1380
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: And noll allegedly due fifteen minutes. Ago, also by the,

1381
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 2: way it's also been confirmed That trump will not be

1382
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 2: Meeting elbow In New. York so that's yet another occasion

1383
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: where he was going to meet but isn't. Anyway Harper

1384
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 2: fins with A Silo park is the, album which is

1385
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 2: out next. Month i'll give you the dates on the

1386
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 2: shows in a couple of, moments but without getting into

1387
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 2: the weeds on. This you did this on sixteen track.

1388
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 16: On a sixteen track tap tape. Machine, yeah, old, WHY

1389
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 16: i Just i've spent to, me that's new. Technology i've

1390
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 16: spent my whole life working on, computers quantizing, things making

1391
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 16: things perfectly, accurate, mean because it's just sort of the

1392
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 16: default when you work on a. Computer so this was

1393
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 16: very much an effort to put more humanity back into the.

1394
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 16: Music the, imperfections the, mistakes the sort of things that

1395
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 16: we've in and out of. TIME i feel like we're

1396
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,479
Speaker 16: really important for me to put on this record because

1397
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 16: those you, Know i'm still a young. Guys, mike there

1398
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 16: was all these. THINGS i feel like a new way

1399
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 16: of doing. It SO i was excited To.

1400
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 2: So i've never heard it explain that way. Before it

1401
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: would be. New if you hadn't, dealet it would be

1402
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 2: Brain what do you make of?

1403
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 16: IT i, MEAN i love the kind of the how

1404
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 16: deliberate and considered everything, is or and sort of the

1405
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 16: opposite of. That if you make a, mistake because it's,

1406
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 16: tape you can't just stop right there and.

1407
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: Restart you've got to push.

1408
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 16: Through so like you kind of find that there's these

1409
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 16: these it's just more human that.

1410
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: Way, yeah it's.

1411
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 16: Not we're not doing lots of little bits.

1412
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 2: And piecing it all.

1413
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 16: Together it's one, long continuous.

1414
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: Tape WHEN i started in this, industry this will bore

1415
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 2: you with an old man's story WHEN i, started so

1416
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 2: we put everything on. Tape, yeah and so this interview

1417
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 2: would be on. Tape, Wow and then what would happen

1418
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: is if you swore or, something we would literally take

1419
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: the tape and we'd slice it and we'd cut it

1420
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 2: out and slice it and slice it back to get

1421
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: and so so you couldn't hear. It and that was

1422
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: that was just it was the way it was.

1423
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 16: Done it Was, yeah AND i mean it's it's it's it's,

1424
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 16: finite so you JUST i, think you, know for, us

1425
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 16: the whole kind of ethos of the record as, well

1426
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 16: was you, know trying to do less with more or

1427
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 16: trying you, know being you, know not just having an

1428
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 16: infinite amount of this infinite out of, that we were

1429
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 16: trying to really restrict ourselves. Instruments there's, tapes so we

1430
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 16: can only do six, takes all these kind of, parameters

1431
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 16: BECAUSE i think that frees you up when you're making,

1432
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 16: music the more kind of rules you, have because if

1433
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 16: your sport for, choice you can sit there for hours

1434
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 16: to agree more just twiddling your thumbs trying to decide

1435
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 16: on the sound for the. Synthesizer when if you have you,

1436
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 16: know only two guitars and one piano to choose, from

1437
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 16: it's very easy to make a record sound, cohesive.

1438
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: Fantastic, yeah what do you make of the? Sound and

1439
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: WHEN i say that the actual, sound is it a

1440
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: better sound to your EAR i.

1441
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 16: THINK i, mean these days it is very hard to.

1442
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 16: TELL i like to, say as someone who's a very

1443
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 16: into analog that there's a sort of a warmth and

1444
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 16: a CRISP i, say it's, crispy actually sizzle to. IT i,

1445
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 16: Mean i'd love to hear those interviews you did it

1446
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 16: on tape and sort of do AN A.

1447
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: B it's a different. Sound it is one. Hundred one

1448
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: of the things that fascinated to me IS i remember

1449
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 2: when CD's first came, out and that was all about the.

1450
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 2: Sound it was, like you wait till you hear the

1451
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 2: sound of OUR, cd which was partially. True but then

1452
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 2: we've gone into the streaming, thing and no one seems

1453
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 2: to care about no sound, anymore not at. ALL i,

1454
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 2: mean most people are listening to out their. PHONE i,

1455
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: mean it was funny when we were finishing this record

1456
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 2: Called Sam evan said that he was more it was

1457
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 2: concentrating on how it would sound out of a phone

1458
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 2: speaker than he was out of real, speakers because he,

1459
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 2: said that's sort of if it sounds great in that,

1460
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 2: way then you, know no one's going to really be

1461
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: a couple of other quick. THINGS i don't, know if

1462
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 2: you're up on this because you only just come back

1463
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 2: to the. Country But tikiritani has pulled his music off

1464
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 2: Right spotify and the batsap. Too do you care about

1465
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 2: the screaming thing for you as an? Artist is that

1466
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 2: an issue in terms of? Revenue?

1467
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 16: Revenue, YEAH i mean it's it's very hard to. MAKE

1468
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 16: i think something they say a million streams is seven thousand.

1469
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 16: Dollars you, know to get to a million streams is you,

1470
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 16: know it's an uphill, battle so you really got to

1471
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 16: work hard to get. There and you, know all the

1472
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 16: work and effort you put in to sort of make

1473
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 16: say seven grand or however much it, is it doesn't

1474
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 16: really feel like it. Is the scales are right. There,

1475
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 16: Yeah but at the same, time it's you, know it's

1476
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 16: it's never been good for, musicians but maybe that's.

1477
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 2: Here's here's my thing is that IT'S i agree with,

1478
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 2: You so it's never been. Great but what the streaming

1479
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 2: has allowed you to do is get to the world

1480
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 2: in a way that if you go that forty, years

1481
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 2: no one did you hate to get a record. Company

1482
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 2: you were beholden to the record. Company they owned. You

1483
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 2: you did. It so now you can sit in your

1484
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: bedroom do your. Thing you're out in the world and.

1485
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 16: It's, YEAH i mean anywhere anywhere can JUST i, mean

1486
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 16: that's what happens to me often as people will, go

1487
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 16: what's your, music what's your, Name i'll say it's Halper.

1488
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 16: Fin they'll search it up right there and then ad

1489
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 16: me and then it's, gone and then that you, know

1490
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 16: that person may never see me. Again But i've for

1491
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 16: that five seconds have just left them like a business

1492
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 16: card or left.

1493
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: Them someone find.

1494
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 16: Me so with, that you, know that's so much easier

1495
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 16: than directing someone to a store or trying to figure

1496
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 16: out a way the people can get your music.

1497
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 2: Instantly of, Course So i'm embarrassed BECAUSE i looked Up

1498
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: Balu bradegha. Yesterday, yeah and you were playing the piano For,

1499
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 2: yes there, locals they are locals if from Might Angy,

1500
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 2: bay they're just you, KNOW i, mean for goodness, sake

1501
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 2: they're on. Tour you were on tour with them In South. America,

1502
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 2: yes we're twenty one.

1503
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 16: Pilots, Yeah, No i've sort Of I've I've i'm glad

1504
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 16: you raise it BECAUSE i feel, LIKE i, mean we

1505
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 16: Played they're A kiwi band through and through and they

1506
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 16: were playing we played In Mexico city to sixty six thousand.

1507
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 2: People we opened for twenty One.

1508
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 16: Pilots, yeah where our wats are? Playing now we got

1509
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 16: to walk on that stage in front of a full.

1510
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 2: House so here's SO i look up twenty One. PILOTS

1511
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 2: i know twenty One. Pilots, yes they're charging three four

1512
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 2: hundred dollars a. Ticket they're a real. Deal they're, like

1513
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 2: they're big news.

1514
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 16: Stadium rock band In South america.

1515
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 2: State and it's two.

1516
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 16: Guys so you're sort of, going, like you, know sort

1517
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 16: of the rest of the world can kind of not

1518
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 16: really you, know hear about this band who down there

1519
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 16: are stadium Level and so we, were and we were

1520
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 16: the band that got to open a baru with the

1521
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 16: band that got to open for, them and it was

1522
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,759
Speaker 16: just us and, them and everyone In South america shows

1523
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 16: up when the door's open and when the music, starts they're.

1524
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: Happy they don't care who's.

1525
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 16: Playing and so we were playing to full houses and

1526
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 16: sort of, going how we're a bunch of kiv's playing

1527
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 16: out of many people for An american band as, well

1528
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 16: it's not even An Australian New zealan, Band so it

1529
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 16: felt very surreal to sort of be Representing New zealand

1530
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 16: a little, bit you, know on that in that in

1531
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 16: that part of the.

1532
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 2: World so the album we're going to play after the

1533
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 2: a little snippet of. It what's the song we're playing

1534
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: the snippet of the songs Called? Satellite is it any?

1535
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 2: Good it is? Good That's i'm really proud of this.

1536
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 2: One the album you're. Loving i'm loving the.

1537
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 16: ALBUM i mean it's as sort of as you were

1538
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 16: saying at the, start like it has taken a while

1539
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 16: to come. Out BUT i think there's a part of

1540
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 16: me that's grown into these songs more than WHEN i

1541
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 16: sort of wrote, them which, is you, know kind of

1542
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 16: strange to, say BUT i feel like they feel like

1543
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 16: me more than they did in the.

1544
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: PAST i. Could you, Know, well congratulations on this and

1545
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 2: you say seas and you're doing a couple of shows and.

1546
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 2: Everything great to catch up with, you and don't don't

1547
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 2: don't be a. Stranger we'll talk About New york. Again

1548
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: let's time absolutely go, well good to see you by the.

1549
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 2: Way thursday Twenty November Double, Whammy auckland twenty Two, November

1550
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: meo And. Wellington more from the song and a miment

1551
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 2: eight twenty one.

1552
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast With Bailey's Real Estate News.

1553
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 17: Talks they'd.

1554
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 2: Be if there's one thing most business owners agree, on

1555
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 2: it says downtime cost you. Money, Right so waiting weeks

1556
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,719
Speaker 2: for the signage to be designed and made and, installed

1557
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 2: that's that's called, downtime and that's lost visibility and that's missed,

1558
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 2: opportunity which is Why Speedy signs are making it their

1559
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 2: business to get your signage sorted, fast not just designed and,

1560
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 2: built but installed as, well so they can do the

1561
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 2: swapover in one, go super, easy so the old sign comes,

1562
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 2: down the new one goes, up no awkward gap in

1563
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 2: between from first chat to final. Install Speedy signs are

1564
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 2: going to take care of it all, cleanly, efficiently without

1565
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 2: wasting your time and your. Money so they've been around

1566
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: for twenty five years and they've got nearly thirty locations

1567
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 2: across our beautiful. Country so chances are there's A Speedy

1568
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 2: signs van in your area right, now servicing the local

1569
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 2: businesses just like, yours helping them stay visible and stay.

1570
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 2: Ahead all the details At Speedy signs dot co dot.

1571
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 2: Z you got That Speedy signs dot co dot n

1572
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: z pasking Like elbow won't Meet trump until he Replaces.

1573
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 2: Rudd rudd's criticism and abuse Of trump should not be.

1574
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 2: Overlooked it's not a bad. Point the other Thing i'm

1575
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 2: meant to, mention by the, WAY i haven't heard anything

1576
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 2: from In New zealand or, anything But QUANTAS i know

1577
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 2: have pulled their flights From Hong kong for the next

1578
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: thirty six hours or. So THEY i only mentioned this

1579
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: because of the, holidays but there's a typhoon going Into Hong,

1580
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: kong SO i know the. Flights this morning there was code.

1581
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 2: Shares there's A loftanza slash In New zealand Slash Cafe

1582
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 2: pacific one that leaves at about ten ten thirty this

1583
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: morning that is. Canceled So i'm assuming that you're well

1584
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 2: aware of what's going on right half of Finn so

1585
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: the single comes Out friday Called. Satellite the Album Silo

1586
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 2: park that drops the thirty first Of, october so you've

1587
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 2: got a time to. Wait those two shows Twentieth November

1588
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,879
Speaker 2: Double whammy In auckland and the twenty second Of November

1589
01:13:32,200 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 2: meow In. Wellington the commercial vibe to It. Mike an

1590
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 2: independent review by the formerhead of the extreme left WING

1591
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 2: abc AND sbs broadcasters In australia Year sure will need

1592
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 2: to be found to be. IMPARTIAL tv And Zaid mike

1593
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 2: has become unashamedly a complete propaganda news. Outlet, mike we

1594
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 2: never WATCH tv one. Now it's very biased and if

1595
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: you compare the way a lot of their presenters speak

1596
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 2: or stand a wave their hands, around it never looks very.

1597
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 2: Professional so the REASON i read those out is THAT

1598
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 2: i go back to the report that won't be released

1599
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 2: but nevertheless has been done BY tv And zaid two

1600
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: find out that they're not particularly, biased hence just endorsing

1601
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 2: my point before the, news which was you believe what

1602
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: you believe and never The twain shall meet and they

1603
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 2: can write all the reports till they're blue in the.

1604
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 2: Face you are not for Turning israel and recognition from

1605
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 2: Mister starmer and the reform deportations Of busy time In.

1606
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: Britain rod is.

1607
01:14:56,040 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 1: Next The breakfast Show kiwi's trust is in The, know

1608
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: the Mic Asking breakfast With Range rover leading by, Example

1609
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: news TOGS Headbs.

1610
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 2: Mike can The lions beat The ravens this afternoon In?

1611
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 2: Baltimore both teams were the one to one. RECORDS a

1612
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 2: very good. Question it shouldn't be can The lions beat The,

1613
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 2: ravens because the answer obviously is, yes the same way

1614
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 2: The ravens can beat The. Lions but will The lions

1615
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 2: beat The? Ravens it could, be should be a good. Game.

1616
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 2: Yesterday is disappointed in The Dallas, cowboys who. Lost not

1617
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 2: only do they lose The Chicago, bears who are a

1618
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 2: better side than they have been in recent, years But

1619
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 2: dallas is just proving themselves to be indescribably incompetent yet

1620
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: again for another, season and one wonders how long one

1621
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 2: can stay supporting. Them twenty three minutes away from.

1622
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 13: Nine international correspondence with ends and eye, insurance peace of

1623
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 13: mind For New zealand.

1624
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 2: Business almost Like Jerry jones has a complete control freak

1625
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 2: and doesn't recognize it and continues to make ridiculous. Decisions

1626
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 2: now To britain we, Go rod a little good, Morning good.

1627
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 2: Morning just been listening earlier on this morning To macron

1628
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 2: In New york, yesterday AND i know this isn't, aside

1629
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 2: BUT i was Watching starmer's statement standing in that corridor

1630
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 2: wherever that was all in yellow and old. Paintings he's

1631
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 2: not very good straight down the, lins is.

1632
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 17: He, no he's, not and he he emanates no, warmth no.

1633
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 17: Confidence he's not great with the public or with. Television so,

1634
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,759
Speaker 17: no he's in real, trouble and he's in more trouble

1635
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 17: today as a consequence of deciding to Recognize, palestine which

1636
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 17: we've discussed, before very good piece By Melandie phillips where she, says, well,

1637
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 17: exactly you recognizing it isn't a, state and are you

1638
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 17: recognizing which bits of The West bank are you? Recognizing

1639
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 17: you Recognizing gaza and so on and so, On and

1640
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 17: he has been pretty much viscerated for, it and, surprisingly

1641
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 17: from my, PERSPECTIVE i didn't think it would be quite like.

1642
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:02,480
Speaker 17: This there was a pole out in The telegraph yesterday

1643
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 17: which suggested that ninety percent Of british people thought That

1644
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 17: palestine shouldn't be.

1645
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 2: Recognized it's interesting we're about to do. IT i think

1646
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: we don't. Know we're not being told which way we're.

1647
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 2: Going we've got Our foreign minister In New. York he's

1648
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 2: making a speech On saturday out the point In New.

1649
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 2: Zealand of, course it doesn't, matter because no one gives

1650
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 2: the monkeys About New. ZEALAND i guess the world has

1651
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:30,679
Speaker 2: more interest in something like THE. Uk but Hes macron

1652
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 2: Or starmer moved the needle in any, way shape or

1653
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 2: form by announcing what they've. Announced, NO i.

1654
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 17: Don't, well they certainly haven't moved the needle on releasing

1655
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 17: the hostages or coming to a peaceful conclusion In. GAZA

1656
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 17: i don't think they've really moved the needle. Anywhere on

1657
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 17: the international relation reaction To. Israel there's already one hundred

1658
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 17: and forty countries of Recognized PALESTINE i think it, is

1659
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 17: or somewhere in that. Region two more doesn't make very

1660
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 17: much different than three. More if you love do it,

1661
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 17: tomorrow it wouldn't make much difference. Either you, know you're

1662
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 17: recognizing something which doesn't. Exist it's bizarre.

1663
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 2: How much of This AND i read some article that

1664
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,839
Speaker 2: was suggesting that he really only did it to appease

1665
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 2: the chunk of his party that's going to cause him

1666
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 2: more trouble than he.

1667
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 17: Needs, oh there is absolutely no doubt that is the

1668
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 17: only reason it was. Tough it was an act of,

1669
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 17: cowardice designed to placate the left wring members of his

1670
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 17: party and perhaps convince a few people who were thinking

1671
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,799
Speaker 17: otherwise of voting for The Green, party The Lib dems

1672
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 17: Or Jeremy corbyn's new, party that No labour's resolute On,

1673
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 17: palestine rebelieve in a Free, palestine. Etc it was an

1674
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 17: act of cowardice and opportunism and no question about. It

1675
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 17: and there are plenty of people In labor who will

1676
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 17: agree that that's exactly what it.

1677
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 2: Was, okay talk to me About nigel and watching him

1678
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 2: overnight our time and his. Deportations do we get down

1679
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 2: to the point the legalities of it? ALL i, mean,

1680
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 2: yes lots of people would support and want them to do,

1681
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 2: this and yes it may or may not save a

1682
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 2: lot of money and all that. Stuff but the legalities

1683
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 2: of actually tangibly doing it as opposed to promising to do.

1684
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 2: It has anyone got to that?

1685
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 17: Bit, well they will need to change, laws you, know

1686
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 17: they will need to change a whole bunch of laws

1687
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 17: to circumvent whatever the lawyers. Do their, plan of, course

1688
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 17: is to effectively ignore the five year limit which previous

1689
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 17: governments have had on immigrants coming. Here stay for five,

1690
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:36,440
Speaker 17: years keep your nose out of, trouble and you effectively

1691
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 17: get freedom to remain for the rest of your. Life

1692
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 17: it obviously doesn't. Work farrat is trying to, say you,

1693
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:48,759
Speaker 17: know we will start, deportations we will reassess their claims

1694
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 17: to stay here and then deport, them and THAT i

1695
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 17: think will go down very well with a large proportion

1696
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 17: of The british electorate and the rest of The british,

1697
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 17: electorate AND i will guess about twenty, percent we'll say

1698
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 17: this is, fascism et.

1699
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 2: Cetera several part question The Lib dems that night over

1700
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 2: the weekend was suggesting using The Civil Contingencies act to

1701
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 2: sort of help tidy up the. Backlog is any of that?

1702
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 2: Real and when The Lib dems say stuff like, that

1703
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 2: does anyone play?

1704
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 17: Attention, no no one pays any. Attention they have had that,

1705
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 17: conference they have been trying to make a few waves

1706
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 17: with the. Press BUT i don't THINK i don't think

1707
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 17: anyone looks at The Lib dems and, things, Well i'm

1708
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 17: sure you'll be able to sort the micro problem, out

1709
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 17: because of course they don't really recognize that there is

1710
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,719
Speaker 17: a micro. Problem they do recognize that there's a problem

1711
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 17: in a backlog of, claims hence there hence their result

1712
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 17: to various other legalistic, measures But it's very difficult to

1713
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 17: see how how anyone could take any notice of a

1714
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 17: party which basically refuses to say that there's a connection

1715
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 17: between a high number of immigrants and pressure on. Infrastructure

1716
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 17: it's justers.

1717
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 2: Belief WHAT i did find interesting is the leader of

1718
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: The Lib dems were suggesting in an interview earlier on

1719
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 2: this morning that no one's going to work With. Varage

1720
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 2: is there an element of truth to that or intrigue

1721
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 2: or interest in? That, is if he does, well let's

1722
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 2: assume he does next time, around but he doesn't have

1723
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 2: the numbers to form a, government how does he form a?

1724
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 2: Government is it going to be Like holland or? Wherever

1725
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 2: and just no one deals with the guy no one

1726
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:20,679
Speaker 2: wants to deal.

1727
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 17: WITH i think that though she claims to despise, him

1728
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 17: at the, MOMENT i Think Kenny bay's An off would

1729
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 17: leap at, it leap at the chance of forming a

1730
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 17: government if she were promised deputy prime, ministership given you

1731
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 17: know that the party you've got one hundred MP's or

1732
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 17: whatever it. GETS i think there is great distaste on the, left,

1733
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 17: obviously but no one was expecting the left to work With.

1734
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 17: Faras BUT i think the tour is push kin to

1735
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 17: self would do.

1736
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 2: All, Right, WELL i might See THURSDAY bbc just. Quickly

1737
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 2: they're going to make a decision apparently Over. Eurovision The, Netherlands, Island,

1738
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: Spain slovenia say they're not taking part Of israel takes

1739
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 2: parts of THE. Bbc she's going to need to be

1740
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 2: involved with, that. Apparently And Rachel reeves' polight slash dilemma

1741
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 2: is not improving at all because In august she spent

1742
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 2: eighteen billion pounds more than she actually. Had and here's

1743
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,759
Speaker 2: the really disturbing, thing and here's. Why probably THE imf

1744
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 2: is going to have to get involved at some. Point

1745
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 2: the tax national insurance receipts her, up so she's getting

1746
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: more money. In it's just she refuses to cut the.

1747
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 2: Spending so borrowing over the first five months of the

1748
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 2: financial year is now running at eighty four billion, pounds

1749
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 2: which is sixteen billion higher than for the same period last.

1750
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 2: Year and it's also above her seventy two point four

1751
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 2: billion dollar protection made in Last. March so she said

1752
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,480
Speaker 2: she'd do something about, it she just. Hasn't sixteen Too

1753
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:44,759
Speaker 2: The High Asking Breakfast Full show podcast On iHeartRadio powered

1754
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1755
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,720
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1756
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 2: this is the title and old slash autism, announcement which

1757
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 2: is coming very. Shortly he's flanked BY rfk, meantime while

1758
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 2: we're waiting for him to say something profound or interesting

1759
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 2: or POSSIBLY i don't, know present some science that links

1760
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: the two. Together don't hold your. BREATH i take you

1761
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 2: back To optus and over the weekend this disaster of

1762
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 2: the firewall upgrade that led directly to four, deaths and

1763
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 2: lord knows how many other problems because they're still investigating that.

1764
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 2: Part but their emergency service, stopped their triple zero, stopped

1765
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 2: and you couldn't ring triple. Zero so they should quote

1766
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 2: unquote expect significant. Consequences this is The Communications Minister Anika.

1767
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 2: Wells the telco had perpetuated an enormous failure on The australian.

1768
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 2: People investigation underway would be a priority to company's, performance

1769
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 2: though doesn't matter what they find was ultimately not good,

1770
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 2: enough she. Said elbow weighed in From New york and

1771
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 2: said he would be quote unquote surprised if The optis chief,

1772
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 2: Executive Stephen rue was not considering, resigning so you don't

1773
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 2: get much more pressure than. That interesting also In india

1774
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 2: as of today being or in the last twenty four

1775
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 2: hours at, least That mody to counteract The american tariffs

1776
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 2: has decided to mark around with A. Gst and this

1777
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 2: is why we should be grateful To Roger douglas if

1778
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 2: you want to go back To Roger douglas AND gst

1779
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 2: in this. Country one of the things he argued when

1780
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 2: he INTRODUCED gst was that everyone, went, oh we'll hold,

1781
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 2: on we better not put it on for in, Vegetables

1782
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 2: i'll hold, on we better not put it on ice.

1783
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 2: Cream but what about sausage? Rolls and he, said the

1784
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: rule of thumb is you put it on, everything because

1785
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,759
Speaker 2: if you, don't you will be forever grappling With watson

1786
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:31,759
Speaker 2: and what's. Out and there are any number of, countries

1787
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 2: Including australia And canada who deal with that sort of,

1788
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 2: thing And india is a very good. Example So mody's

1789
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:41,919
Speaker 2: are taking staples like milk and, bread, medicines. Drugs, basically

1790
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 2: they've become tax. Free consumption tax on small, cars television,

1791
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 2: sets air conditioners are going to drop from twenty eight

1792
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 2: to eighteen. Percent they've got a myriad OF gst, amounts

1793
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 2: just a myriad the it's a hair, oil toilet, soap,

1794
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 2: shampoo it's going to be taxed at a marginal five

1795
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 2: percent instead of twelve or eighteen. Percent major all overhaul

1796
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 2: of THE gst in. General that will coincide or has

1797
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 2: coincided with the long festival season four month long. Period

1798
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 2: everyone goes out and spend some, money feels good about,

1799
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,919
Speaker 2: themselves part of a twelve billion dollar income tax, giveaway

1800
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 2: and that's to. Counteract so he's trying to invite a

1801
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 2: feeling of festivity In india because of course the fifty

1802
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 2: percent tariffs that The indians currently grapple with is going

1803
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 2: to be a major. Issue and that's before you get

1804
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 2: to the issue of the visa announcement made the other

1805
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 2: day and a lot Of indians involved in that visa

1806
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 2: thing With america as. Well has he Made is he said?

1807
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 2: Anything and he said, no he said. Nothing is he still?

1808
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 2: INTERESTED i? DO i want to play it back because

1809
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 2: is he still introducing? People, no he's finished introducing.

1810
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 14: People but now he's just saying dumb stuff.

1811
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Speaker 2: And, okay well that could take a. While see what

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Speaker 2: NOW i am told this is worth listening.

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Speaker 20: To and by the, WAY i THINK i can say

1842
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 20: that there are certain groups of people that don't take

1843
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 20: vaccines and don't take any, pills that have no, autism.

1844
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 2: That have no.

1845
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 20: Autism does that tell you something that's Currently is that

1846
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 20: a correct?

1847
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 2: Statement by the, way.

1848
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 6: There are some studies that suggest, that, yeah with The,

1849
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 6: amish for, example.

1850
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 20: The, Amish, yeah VIRTUALLY i heard. None bobby wants to

1851
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 20: be very careful with what he, says and he. Should

1852
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 20: But i'm not so careful with WHAT i. Say but

1853
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 20: you have certain groups The amish as an, example they

1854
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 20: have essentially no. Autism first effective, immediately THE fda will

1855
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 20: be notifying physicians at the use of said well let's

1856
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 20: see how we say. THAT i said menefin acetamnifin said,

1857
01:27:54,680 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 20: okay which is basically commonly known as Thailand all during

1858
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 20: pregnancy can be associated with a very increased risk of.

1859
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 20: Autism so Taking thailandol is not, good all, Right i'll say.

1860
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 2: It it's not.

1861
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 20: Good for this, reason they are strongly recommending that women

1862
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 20: limit titler and all use during pregnancy unless medically.

1863
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 2: Necessary it's the leader of the free. Will it's the

1864
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 2: leader of the free. Will paracetamol is what they're talking.

1865
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 2: About it's Thailand all is just a brand, name and

1866
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: it's The Armish. Bobby it's The army sweller as some

1867
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 2: people who Are amish who don't have Autism jewish. Is

1868
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 2: they called it.

1869
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 14: Parasenamol In, americas it sounds easy to, say.

1870
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 2: Well how do we see That he's got to be.

1871
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,600
Speaker 2: CAREFUL i don't have to be. Careful so, ANYWAY i

1872
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 2: don't know where that, goes because IF i was the

1873
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 2: producer of IF i was Thailand ol AND i produced

1874
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 2: the paracetamol, Product i'd want to have. SOME i don't

1875
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,600
Speaker 2: know scientific evidence that what he's saying might be remotely,

1876
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 2: accurate and therefore.

1877
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 14: There's a company that what's it called, HERE i don't

1878
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 14: know if you've heard of, It johnson And.

1879
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 2: Johnson, yeah there are other ones who make, it, ULTIMATELY

1880
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 2: i don't. Know so, anyway that's his. ANNOUNCEMENT i don't

1881
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 2: even think he sounded particularly convinced himself that that's actually a,

1882
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 2: Thing but nevertheless it's been announced and the consequences will

1883
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 2: be for The American So.

1884
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 14: Johnson johnson's the parent company Of, kenview which is the

1885
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 14: company that Makes thailand. Old kenview shares are down twenty

1886
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 14: five percent already, today not.

1887
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 2: Surprisingly so, anyway that's how you run in, country. Folks

1888
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 2: you just say some random stuff and see how it. Lands,

1889
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 2: anyway back tomorrow morning from six as Always Happy.

1890
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