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Speaker 1: Well he did it. Donald Trump has paused all military

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Speaker 1: aid into Ukraine. This comes just days after his row

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Speaker 1: with Zelensky in the Oval Office. White House officials have

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Speaker 1: noted the pause could be lifted if Zelenski shows a

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Speaker 1: new commitment to peace talks with Russia. I'm joined again

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Speaker 1: by Matt Terrell, who joined us a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: Marco Rubio's former campaign manager. Hello, Matt, very great to

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Speaker 1: be with you.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Look, so a day ago, Zelensky said he'd signed the

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Speaker 1: minerals deal. Last night the Prime Minister of Ukraine said

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Speaker 1: they'd signed the military deal. They're saying this because they're

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Speaker 1: comfortable with the security guarantees that Europe is offering. So

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Speaker 1: why is America punishing him again?

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Speaker 2: Well, a quick crush of my title is the chief

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Speaker 2: of staff from Mark Rutbu's presential campaign in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Is just quick correction there. But great to be with

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Speaker 2: you again, and I'll just say that, you know, look,

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Speaker 2: I mean what we're seeing right now it takes shape

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Speaker 2: is on the heels of the Friday meeting between President

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Speaker 2: Zelenski President Trump. You know, President Trump feeling there's always

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Speaker 2: taken the action that he sees fit as this military aid,

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Speaker 2: if you will, this US aid to Ukraine. And I

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Speaker 2: think at this stage, right now, the real question everyone

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Speaker 2: has is what happened next. I think right now we're

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Speaker 2: going to just pause and wait and see. But certainly,

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Speaker 2: I think right now, Persident Trump has been very transparent,

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Speaker 2: very clear about what he expects, and that is that

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Speaker 2: he wants to bring peace to this war. He campaigned

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Speaker 2: I'm bringing peace to this war, and he campaigned on

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Speaker 2: doing it in a negotiated way. And I think right

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Speaker 2: now where this administration is at, that they felt that

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Speaker 2: this agreement would have been a good deal economically, not

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Speaker 2: just for both Ukraine and the United States, but also

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Speaker 2: in his own right with service and security guarantees. So

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Speaker 2: we'll see what happens here. We're seeing a lot of

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Speaker 2: moving parts, of course takes shape here, but pausing that

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Speaker 2: aid is something that's obviously breaking news and frankly nothing

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Speaker 2: that people should be too shocked by. Giving how that

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Speaker 2: meaning went on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what's the reaction mean like in the United States

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Speaker 1: of America, Because our Americans struggling with some of the

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Speaker 1: concisions that Prisident Trump is making to Russia.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of Americans first and foremost

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Speaker 2: viewing this. You know, if you look at the recent

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Speaker 2: polling on this, the vast majority of Americans, over seventy

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Speaker 2: percent of Americans want this war to end. And look,

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Speaker 2: the reality is, I think Americans recognize that there's ampathy

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Speaker 2: concessions on both sides, but you can't get there in

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Speaker 2: terms of discussing those concessions unless you bring the necessary

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Speaker 2: parties to the negotiating table and then includes Presidents Lensky

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Speaker 2: being at the negotiating table, but also President Putin. And

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Speaker 2: what your seeing administrations say most recently is that they

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Speaker 2: feel as though this war is a war of attrition

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Speaker 2: and the only way to end it is to get

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Speaker 2: both parties, both Presidence Lenski and President Putin to the

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Speaker 2: negotiating table. I think the administration has been clear that

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Speaker 2: you know you're going to have to likely see concessions

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Speaker 2: on both sides here, but you don't know what those

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Speaker 2: will look like until you negotiate, until you have discussions,

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Speaker 2: And that's where I think the administration is at wanting

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Speaker 2: to get those discussions going booked by President Putin as

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Speaker 2: well as by President of Lenski.

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