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Speaker 1: Cabinet has agreed to loosen some of the regulations around

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Speaker 1: the early childhood education. David Seymour's Ministry of Regulation has

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Speaker 1: done a report on the sector and made fifteen recommendations

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Speaker 1: for change. That Cabinet has accepted Simon Lobber as the

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Speaker 1: CEO of the Early Childhood Council with us. Now, hey, Simon, hi,

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Speaker 1: ever any in particular that you're stoked about or all

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Speaker 1: of them.

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Speaker 2: Well, peeling away things that aren't working and haven't been

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Speaker 2: working for many, many years is actually really really good news,

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Speaker 2: and it's hard not to get excited about it. And

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Speaker 2: the only thing that's difficult is we've got to wait

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Speaker 2: another eighteen months to get that actually done. But it's

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Speaker 2: great to have a timeline.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, can you explain something to me?

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that's going to be repealed is

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Speaker 1: the requirement for the ECE centers to hold immunization records

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Speaker 1: for every child of fifteen months. Why are they doing

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Speaker 1: that anyway.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was a time where there was a gap

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Speaker 2: in health records and nobody actually knew put it onto

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Speaker 2: the ECE providers.

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Speaker 1: Well, you say nobody knew whether my child, let's say

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Speaker 1: at three was completely vaccinated, So the ECU guys had

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Speaker 1: to do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, a long time ago. Though health records

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Speaker 2: have improved.

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Speaker 1: Zeeland has it nowadays, don't they.

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Speaker 2: That's right, yep, it's completely.

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Speaker 1: Unnecessary thing for them to be doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anything that sits outside of Ministry of Education tends

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Speaker 2: to be forgotten forever. So the health. There's lots of

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Speaker 2: health things that are just random and pointless.

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Speaker 1: Why did we require them to maintain a temperature indoors

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Speaker 1: of eighteen degrees on the dot?

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Speaker 2: There was some research done that suggested eighteen degrees was

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Speaker 2: a good minimum, and I think eighteen degrees is definitely

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Speaker 2: a good thing to aim for. But as I you said,

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Speaker 2: it as an absolute limit, it's completely impractical.

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Speaker 1: Oh so it's not. So it's a minimum, not a

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Speaker 1: constant temperature. It doesn't have to persisit in eighteen So.

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Speaker 2: That's eighteen degrees in Auckland, and it's eighteen degrees and

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Speaker 2: in Vicago, And it doesn't matter what time of year

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Speaker 2: it is. So it does drive some pretty crazy behaviors.

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Speaker 2: I've been into centers with giant air curtains and they

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Speaker 2: have to heat the place so hot it's just unbearable

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Speaker 2: for the adults.

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Speaker 1: What's an air cursion, So.

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Speaker 2: That's where you can still have a door open. You

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Speaker 2: see them in mauls and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, I know what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah. Now, the NZDI doesn't love it, says

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Speaker 1: qualified teacher requirements being watered down, safety criterias being withdrawn,

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Speaker 1: and this will be a bad idea.

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Speaker 2: What do you say, Well, that's not that's not what's

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Speaker 2: being said. So that's not in the report and that's

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Speaker 2: not what we're expecting to happen. We expect, yes, they'll

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Speaker 2: remove some things, but they'll put in more effective things

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Speaker 2: in child safety will be enhanced.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Hey, Simon, thanks so much, appreciate it. Simon Love,

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Speaker 1: the Early Childhood Council CEO.

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