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Speaker 2: Morning and Welcome today. The let's save the media idea

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Speaker 2: In two? Why have A pulled the agree to disagree trigger?

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Speaker 2: school term time, holiday bunking. That's working Big time Politics

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Speaker 2: Wednesday after Rate, Richard Arnold, State Side and Steve Price

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Speaker 2: lines up in Australia for us pasking Welcome to the day.

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Speaker 2: Seven past six are the current or of the ongoing

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Speaker 2: game that has been played between economists and bankers over

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Speaker 2: the state of our beleagued economy versus the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 2: and when they're game to start cutting rates is well

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Speaker 2: worth watching if for no other reason we're all unfortunately

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Speaker 2: reluctant players. In the latest chapter involves the Nzier and

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Speaker 2: their business survey. The game is played as follows. Business

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Speaker 2: tells the serve things are bad, really bad, really really

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Speaker 2: really bad. One of the questions is about pricing intention

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Speaker 2: i e. Do you think you can pass on costs

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Speaker 2: to the punter? Not being a city council, of course,

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Speaker 2: most of them say no. They then say that affects

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Speaker 2: their income, their profitability, their stress levels are up. Repeat,

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Speaker 2: things are really really really bad. The survey is published

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Speaker 2: and the bank has rejoiced because it's such bad news.

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Speaker 2: The Reserve Bank has got to start cutting soon, don't

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Speaker 2: they o. This game has been going on for a while.

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Speaker 2: Then banks come in with their predictions forecuts. Not long ago.

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Speaker 2: Some thought August would be a good starting point. Now

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Speaker 2: it's more like end of the year. Some say early

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Speaker 2: next year. Some say the middle of next year. Here's

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Speaker 2: the truth. No one knows, not even the Reserve Bank why,

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Speaker 2: because things aren't really really really bad. Well they are,

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Speaker 2: it's just not bad enough. Inflation still stuck, not as

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Speaker 2: stuck as it was, but stuck enough. And no amount

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Speaker 2: of winging, whining, moaning and squealing makes it fall any faster.

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Speaker 2: Only fundamentals do that, and fundamentals don't make noise. The hope,

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Speaker 2: now there's a word. The whole hope is that inflation

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Speaker 2: is beckoning its appropriate box by the end of the year,

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Speaker 2: and then maybe, just maybe, if the Reserve Bank thinks

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Speaker 2: it is going to stay there, do we at last

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Speaker 2: start the journey of the cuts. In the meantime, it's

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Speaker 2: kept mouse banker and economists, fortune teller and Ouiji board

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Speaker 2: operator toying with our emotions, hoping that if we grimm

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Speaker 2: us so badly, Adrian might just relent.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Final push in the UK as Rushi gives it everything.

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Speaker 3: Crucially, I want to continue to make progress, cutting migration

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Speaker 3: and stopping the votes, and that's a choice for everyone

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Speaker 3: at this election. A vote for anyone who's not a

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Speaker 3: Conservative candidate is a vote not for those things.

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Speaker 2: Kia got accused of being a bit workshire going home

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Speaker 2: at six o'clock, so we had to defend that. It

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Speaker 2: is really desperate. My family's really important to me, as

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Speaker 2: they will be to every single person watching this, and

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Speaker 2: I just think it's increasing desperation bordering on hysterical now.

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Speaker 2: The lib Dems, while surfing, tried to be serious.

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Speaker 4: We're the only party putting NHS and social care carers

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Speaker 4: right at the front of our election priorities, and yes

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Speaker 4: We've done it with a bit of fun, but we've

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Speaker 4: also got a serious message.

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Speaker 2: Also in Britain, another sickening chapter and the Lucy Lippy Siga.

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Speaker 2: She's been found guilty of trying to kill another baby.

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Speaker 5: We have seen medics and nurses give their evidence in

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Speaker 5: a professional and personal manner. Without this, the family and

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Speaker 5: parents of baby Kay would not have received the justice

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Speaker 5: that they have received today.

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Speaker 2: Then ken yep, where you thought the protests were over

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Speaker 2: after the President backed down on the text last week?

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Speaker 2: A week is a long time.

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Speaker 6: They told us Ruta Musco, we're sick of him.

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Speaker 7: He's killing and they've called him a liar.

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Speaker 8: We've seen the police fire to guess directly at them.

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Speaker 9: We've also seen them beat people.

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Speaker 2: She's in a guest mask. The state side insight into

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Speaker 2: just how bad Biden saga is. This is Kyle Burnstein.

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Speaker 10: These people who have supported him, loved him, campaign for him,

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Speaker 10: see him often say that in the last six months particularly,

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Speaker 10: there has been a marked incidence of cognitive decline.

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Speaker 2: Finally, have you looking for somewhere to work or retire,

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Speaker 2: then I have Vienna. They've been named by the Economists

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Speaker 2: Intelligence Unit as the most liveable city in the world

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Speaker 2: for the third year in a row. Healthcare, culture, environment, stability, infrastructure,

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Speaker 2: education and of course all those horses. They got a

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Speaker 2: perfect score in all the culture and environment because they

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Speaker 2: don't have enough sport Auckland come on and equal ninth

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Speaker 2: most liveable city in the world along with Osaka. Believe

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Speaker 2: it's in ninety seconds or not. By the way, very

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Speaker 2: good news on inflation this morning. Headline inflation in the

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Speaker 2: euro Zone two point five percent, smack in the middle.

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Speaker 2: That's where they want it, in line with expectations. Price

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Speaker 2: rises and services which is always an issue, that held

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Speaker 2: at four point one percent, so they seem to have

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Speaker 2: it under control, so good on them. Twelve past six

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Speaker 2: co hosting breakfast. Well, it's all starting to hit the fan.

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Speaker 2: In America. Democratic Lloyd Dog of Texas first sitting Democrat

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Speaker 2: member of Congress to call for Biden to go. I

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Speaker 2: represent the heart of a congressional district once represented by

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Speaker 2: Lyndon Johnson. Under very different circumstances, he made the painful

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Speaker 2: decision to withdraw. President Biden should do the same. He

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Speaker 2: could help usher in a new generation of leadership. We've

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Speaker 2: also got the Democratic Representative Mike Quigley of Illinois. He

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Speaker 2: signaled an openness to replace Biden as nominee. So she's

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Speaker 2: unfolding as we speak. Fifteen past six, Richard, I'm not sure,

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Speaker 2: of course, j am I wealth Andrew Keller her, good morning,

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Speaker 2: very good morning. The auctions of it ugly.

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Speaker 11: Where to start with this, you know, I'd really like

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Speaker 11: not to have to keep relaying grim economic and marketing us.

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Speaker 12: The trouble is, it just keeps appearing. I'd looked twice.

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Speaker 11: At this to make sure I hadn't got the date wrong.

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Speaker 11: So we've seen a precipitous fall in the Global Dairy

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Speaker 11: Trade Price Index night six point nine fall. So that's

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Speaker 11: not great. So the supporting players, if I look at

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Speaker 11: point nine percent. But the main players, they didn't escape unscathed.

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Speaker 11: They were hammered, really, I think would be the best

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Speaker 11: way to describe it. Skim milk powder down six point

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Speaker 11: that unusual back in February we saw a fall of

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Speaker 11: year in twenty twenty two, we also saw some similar

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Speaker 11: not unprecedented, but it's certainly not common. Basically removes a

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Speaker 12: Seen since April.

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Speaker 11: Whole milk powder four point three percent fall threey two

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Speaker 12: That takes the end ex back to April levels.

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Speaker 11: Mike, I probably need a bit of time to dig

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Speaker 11: a bit deep into the bidding behavior in the details

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Speaker 11: to actually understand what's happened here'd did somebody just not

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 11: The other thing we've got to say, is this enough

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Speaker 12: My sense is that it isn't, but it's worrying.

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Speaker 11: We have to hope that we are not seeing a

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Speaker 11: significant and material change in the trend because again, Mike

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Speaker 11: Agri and Darie particularly been one of the sort of

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Speaker 11: bright points of the soggy economy at the moment.

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Speaker 12: We don't want to see it come down.

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Speaker 2: No, we do not, But fortunately we've got the business confidence. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Oh no, we don't.

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Speaker 12: So that was it, wasn't it wonderful?

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Speaker 11: So yeah, the release yes day the end I quarterly

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Speaker 11: serve a business opinion. Yes, they've talked about being interested

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Speaker 11: I think the detail in this qb QSBO has confirmed

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Speaker 11: to me that it seems highly unlikely that we're going

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Speaker 11: to have to wait until the second half of twenty

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Speaker 11: twenty five from move lower in the OCR. At the

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Speaker 11: headline level, there's a further decline in business confidence. You

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Speaker 11: would have been staggered, I think, to not have thought

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Speaker 11: months own activity businesses own activity weakened and at twenty

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Speaker 11: decline in activity in their business in June that week

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Speaker 11: and is consistent with the sort of direction of travel

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Speaker 11: that we're seeing in the A and Z business outlook.

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Speaker 11: The building sector it's the most downbeat again, no surprises there,

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Speaker 11: closely followed by manufacturing. Retail sector profitability is challenged again you.

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Speaker 12: Know what we keep well, Katman, do you've got warehouse?

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Speaker 12: Everything's telling you that that's going on as well.

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Speaker 11: Some interesting numbers out of the sort of referring to

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Speaker 11: the labor market. Approximately a quarter of firm survey surveyed

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Speaker 11: have reduced staff numbers in the June quarter and ten

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Speaker 11: percent a further ten percent in ten two. So that's

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Speaker 11: yet another statistic that is reminiscent of the GFC. Over

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Speaker 11: sixty percent of business report that sales are the main

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Speaker 11: limiting factor in their business or are the limiting factor

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Speaker 12: That's the highest level we've seen that in ten years.

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Speaker 11: So and some sort of I think some quite worrying

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Speaker 11: have said they're intending to reduce investment in buildings and

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Speaker 11: when conditions improve, and it certainly doesn't help productivity. But

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Speaker 11: a lower number of firms reported and intentioned to increase prices.

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Speaker 12: So that's good.

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Speaker 11: But almost everything in the survey market is moving the

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Speaker 11: direction of the Arbien said wants to see. Unfortunately that's

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Speaker 11: not good. But look, I just don't think they're going

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Speaker 11: to rely on the survey responses and they need to

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Speaker 11: see confirmation, or they will need to see from their

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Speaker 11: point of view, confirmation and things like inflation numbers and GDP.

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Speaker 11: It just seems inevitable that we will see that.

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Speaker 12: It is just a question of when.

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Speaker 11: Well, the US share markets are up, so there's a

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Speaker 11: but a positive news for the morning. The Dow Jones

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Speaker 11: is up eighty two points thirty nine two hundred fifty one.

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Speaker 11: The S and P five hundred is up twenty points,

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Speaker 11: that's point three seven percent at five four nine five,

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Speaker 11: and the Nasdaq is up one hundred and seventeen points

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Speaker 11: two thirds seven percent, so just under the eighteen thousand levels.

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Speaker 12: That's all good.

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Speaker 11: The FORTS one hundred lost point five six percent yesterday,

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Speaker 11: closing at eight one two one. The NICK was up

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Speaker 11: over one percent over the forty thousand mark. Shangho Compost

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Speaker 11: fairly quiet, lost thirteen points, closing at eleven thousand, seven

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Speaker 2: back here, great qu success story. Refreshed Renovations has grown

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Speaker 2: So they're generating one hundred million annually. Currently they're aiming

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Speaker 2: The founder and director John Bridges with us on this John,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 18: Hi Mike, how are you very well?

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Speaker 2: Indeed, thank you? So you reno at scale? Is that

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Speaker 18: Well, we're a franchised home renovation company, a bit like

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Speaker 2: And you simply saw in the house building market or

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Speaker 18: Absolutely, no one does reno's at scale, and I think

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Speaker 18: Well, you do, but we have really type process control.

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Speaker 18: And the key is that we've got all that process

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Speaker 2: Well, I wish you all the very best with your

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Speaker 20: could happen as soon as tomorrow. A new poll is

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Speaker 20: just out from CNN today. That survey indicates that three

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Speaker 20: quarters of usfotters say the Dems would have a better

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Speaker 20: chance for retaining the presidency this time around with someone

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Speaker 20: other than Biden at the top of the ticket. In

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Speaker 20: a head to head match up. The poll has Trump

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Speaker 20: leading Biden by forty nine percent to forty three When

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Speaker 20: they look at other possible Democratic choices. Vice President Kamala

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Speaker 20: Harris is within the margin of era with forty five

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Speaker 20: percent behind Trump on forty seven. Other leading Democrats, including

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Speaker 20: California Governor Gavin Newsom, Transport Secretary Pete Bodhajeedge, and Michigan

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Speaker 20: Governor Gritchen Whitmer, forty five points behind Trump. Meantime, veteran

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Speaker 20: Watergate journalist Carl Bernstein says people close to Biden now

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Speaker 20: say his decline has accelerated since the start of this year.

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Speaker 20: They cite fifteen to twenty occasions in the past year

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Speaker 20: and a half when the President has appeared as confused

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Speaker 20: as he did during the debate. Meantime, there are no

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Speaker 20: signs that Biden is willing to step aside. He just

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Speaker 20: appeared at a climate event where he introduced new rules

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Speaker 20: to protect workers from extreme heat and said of climate change,

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Speaker 20: that's also poll's serious threats to our naz's transportation system.

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Speaker 12: Who are powered foreigns, fisheries and forests.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, things are going on right in our lives being

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Speaker 20: lost to Hurricane Beryl, which is the earliest category five

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Speaker 20: hurricane ever to rise up in the Gribbean and has

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Speaker 20: top wind speeds of two hundred and sixty five kilometers

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Speaker 20: an hour two hundred and sixty five k's and it

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Speaker 20: could threaten Texas within the coming days. Biden has just

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Speaker 20: agreed to do an extended media interview with American ABC

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Speaker 20: and host George Stephanopolis. How much a single interview can

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Speaker 20: change opinions question mark. New York Times opinion writer More

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Speaker 20: Endowed headlined her piece on this political campaign as the

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Speaker 20: ghastly versus the ghostly on the Trump front. The partisan

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Speaker 20: Supreme Court because declared in their latest opinion that a

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Speaker 20: president has immunity from criminal prosecution for official actions that

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Speaker 20: seemed designed to help Trump. If Nixon had this Supreme

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Speaker 20: Court back in his day at the time of Watergate,

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Speaker 20: he could have stuck around forever. As he told interviewer

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Speaker 20: David Frost back in nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 14: Seven, what in the sense you're saying is that there

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Speaker 14: are certain situations, and the Houston Plan, of that part

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Speaker 14: of it, was one of them where the president can

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Speaker 14: decide that it's in the best interests in nation or

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Speaker 14: something and do something illegal.

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Speaker 12: Well, when the president does it.

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Speaker 2: That means that it is not illegal.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, King Richard Nixon, now the president and above the law,

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Speaker 20: has a role equivalent to role to suggests the dissenting

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Speaker 20: Supreme Court Justice Sonya son Too Mayor, who raised some

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Speaker 20: pretty shocking possibilities in her dissent. If a president now

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Speaker 20: quote orders a Navy seal Team six to assassinate a

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Speaker 20: political rival, immune, organizes a military coup to hold on

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Speaker 20: to power, immune takes a bribe in exchange for pardon

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Speaker 20: immune immune immune immune end quote, that's a dissenting Supreme

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Speaker 20: Court justice writing there. Finally, Trump advisor Steve Bannon was

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Speaker 20: just sent off to jail for four months. Another Trump aide,

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Speaker 20: Peter Navarro, also is in the clink right now. Trump

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Speaker 20: lawyer Rudy Giuliani today was disbarred in u for repeatedly

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Speaker 20: lying about Trump's election losses. So that's some of the gang.

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Speaker 19: Well.

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Speaker 20: Trump now has escalated his threat to prosecute political opponents,

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Speaker 20: calling for the jailing of President Biden, vice President Harris,

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Speaker 20: Senators Mitch McConnell Republican, and Chuck Schumer, Democrat, and his

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Speaker 20: own former deputy Mike Pence. He also claims that Liz Cheney,

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Speaker 20: the former Republican Party congress member and top Republican Party official,

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Speaker 20: is quote guilty of treason and suggests there should be

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Speaker 20: televised military tribunals. Chaney has replied that Trump is quote

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Speaker 20: not a stable ad off. Is it time to will

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Speaker 20: in the therapist date.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff see in a couple of days. The seriousness,

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Speaker 2: by the way, of Juliani's misconduct cannot be overstated, they

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Speaker 2: said today when they threw him out flagrantly misused his

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Speaker 2: prominent position as the personal attorney for former Trump and

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Speaker 2: his campaign, through which he repeatedly and intentionally made false statements,

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Speaker 2: some of which were bridges to the federal court, the

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Speaker 2: state lawmakers, the public, the Attorney General's Grievance Committee, and

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Speaker 2: this court concerning the twenty twenty presidential election. So can

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Speaker 2: he suspended from practicing law? He is now permanently despired.

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Speaker 2: Good Times nine to seven Mike.

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Speaker 1: Husking Breakfast with Dailey's Real Estate news Talk Sippy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think really right, I mean sitting down with

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Speaker 2: George Stephanopolis to do in interviews hardly, I think turn

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Speaker 2: your election chances around, and poor old Karine Jean Pierre.

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Speaker 2: They cannot pay this woman enough money to defend this crap.

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Speaker 8: When you look at the record of President Biden versus

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Speaker 8: former President Trump, you see President Biden, who has delivered

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Speaker 8: the strongest recovery in modern history, versus the previous administration

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Speaker 8: whose plans hurts the middle class. And President Biden, who

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Speaker 8: is committed to protecting our fundamental freedoms versus the former president.

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Speaker 8: The previous administration doing everything that they could and they

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Speaker 8: did to overturn roeby Wade Bill.

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Speaker 1: The ins and the outs. It's the fizz on the

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Speaker 1: Mike Husking breakfast on News Talk Sippy.

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Speaker 2: She's working high as we speak in the spinning room.

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Speaker 2: So we'll give you the word of anything else comes

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Speaker 2: to light insight into our travel habits and what we

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Speaker 2: like to spend our hard moon earned money on Google.

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Speaker 2: It's based on what New Zealand does a searching for

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Speaker 2: when we book a holiday. The top thing, Are you

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Speaker 2: ready this is BS Immersive Cultural Experiences. This is what

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Speaker 2: they're telling us this morning. The first thing at Google

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Speaker 2: is immersive Cultural Experience.

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Speaker 9: Only I only get as far as imm and it

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Speaker 9: just comes out. That's how is that what it is?

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Speaker 2: We're looking to build deeper connections by looking for more

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Speaker 2: enriching cultural exchanges. Is that why we're going to the

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Speaker 2: gold coaster?

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Speaker 9: Isn't as far as ri C? And then retro connection?

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Speaker 2: Is that why we're going to dinner? Our is it

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Speaker 2: cannot wait for that DP immersive experience at dinner? I

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Speaker 2: give me a break. So the first searchers for temples

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Speaker 2: at a record high. Apparently all over the world everyone

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Speaker 2: wants to go to a time.

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Speaker 9: Did actually go to a temple last week?

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Speaker 2: Of course you did? And was was it an immersive experience?

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Speaker 9: I immersed myself in the Alau Temple?

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Speaker 2: Did you have any cocktails?

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Speaker 9: Immersed?

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Speaker 19: There?

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Speaker 21: Were?

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Speaker 2: To go to the beach?

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Speaker 9: I did?

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Speaker 2: Did you stay in a hotel on some weight? Did

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Speaker 2: you sit in the sun?

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Speaker 9: Actually last weight? I came back.

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Speaker 2: You got sick?

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Speaker 9: It is quite hot there.

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Speaker 2: I might have squeated some out home stays? Is the

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Speaker 2: second search all time high for searches nature searches for

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Speaker 2: forest bathing? What forest bathing rewilding efforts? So once you've

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Speaker 2: done your immersive experience, what else should we do? I

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Speaker 2: know a rewilding rewilding efforts tree planting has never been higher.

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Speaker 2: It is such crap. No one looks for a retreat

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Speaker 2: more than us. We love a retreat and we don't

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Speaker 2: like cheap anymore. The best as a search, the best

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Speaker 2: outnumbered searches for the cheapest. These days, we're also in

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Speaker 2: the top ten for people looking for premium travel, which

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Speaker 2: is everything from flight's accommodation to top flight activities. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna go forest bathing, you don't want to

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Speaker 2: just do some cheap forest bathing. You want to do

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Speaker 2: some real expensive forest bathing.

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Speaker 7: Dun.

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Speaker 9: Would you believe me if I told you that I

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Speaker 9: do actually know a bunch of people who went tree

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Speaker 9: planting last weekend.

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Speaker 2: On holiday, not really just tree planting down out. And

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Speaker 2: that's before I come to this other survey this morning

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Speaker 2: that claims Auckland is the ninth most liveable city in

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Speaker 2: the world. Wait till you hear what score they gave

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Speaker 2: education in New Zealand. Once again, more but yes, anyway,

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Speaker 2: David Seymour on the media shortly.

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Speaker 1: The breakfast show You Can trust the mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate differently since nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy three, US togs Head.

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Speaker 2: Be seven past seven, So this fair Digital News Bargaining

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Speaker 2: Bill going ahead. Labour came up with it. Of course

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Speaker 2: melistily missed it up. Paul Goldsmith. You get the sense

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Speaker 2: he's been drag kicking and screaming to the liner. But

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Speaker 2: there are a couple of changes, not least of witches

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Speaker 2: and ministers now involved in final calls and we have

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Speaker 2: the second degree to disagree trigger pulled in the coalition,

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Speaker 2: this time by ACT. David Seymour was with us. Very

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Speaker 2: good morning to you, fighting mate. Was this a dian

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Speaker 2: the ditch thing for you or are we going to do?

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Speaker 2: You think see a bunch of agree to disagrees before

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Speaker 2: the next election.

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Speaker 22: Well, the nature of the government is a coalition. There's

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Speaker 22: three different parties. People voted for them for different reasons,

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Speaker 22: and the people that voted for us want to see

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Speaker 22: us stand up and represent them their values. I don't

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Speaker 22: think many, if any, people who voted ACT want to

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Speaker 22: see a policy that is based on the Labor Party

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Speaker 22: theory of economics. There's a company with some money, let's

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Speaker 22: take it off them and it to someone else that

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Speaker 22: might support us, which is all that is. It's not

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Speaker 22: going to solve the underlying and quite serious problems with media,

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Speaker 22: in fact, that we'll probably make them worse because the

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Speaker 22: one attractive thing about this whole policy was that it

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Speaker 22: deals between private companies with no politicians involved. Now they're

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Speaker 22: proposing that a politician gets involved in effectively funding media,

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Speaker 22: and it's just not acceptable.

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Speaker 2: The problem with it is that the one side of

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Speaker 2: the equation is so gargantuan and so big and so powerful.

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Speaker 2: The argument would be you need a politician to drag

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Speaker 2: them to the table otherwise they don't care.

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Speaker 22: Well, that may well be the case, but it also

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Speaker 22: tells you something about the nature of the relationship. It's

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Speaker 22: not always obvious who needs who the most, and when

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Speaker 22: it comes to digital media, whether it's The Herald Online

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Speaker 22: or stuff or whatever. They are benefiting from being able

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Speaker 22: to be found on Google, from having their stories shared

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Speaker 22: on Facebook and Instagram, and I've heard from people who

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Speaker 22: work in those companies that they're trained to help enhance

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Speaker 22: their visibility on these internet platforms so they get more readers. Now,

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Speaker 22: if you're going to try and strike a deal, it's

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Speaker 22: not actually obvious who should be paying who for what service.

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Speaker 22: But to put a politician in the middle tin figure

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Speaker 22: that out, well, that's the kind of policy we expect

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Speaker 22: from the Labor Party, and of course that the origin

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Speaker 22: of it is a labor policy. And I just think

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Speaker 22: we're going to be honest about you know, the problems

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Speaker 22: with the media actually relate to the product. It's never

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Speaker 22: been easier to share news. It's not like you have

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Speaker 22: to pay a network of thousands of school kids to

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Speaker 22: deliver papers every morning. Anyone can start a media company.

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Speaker 22: It's easy to communicate. The issue is I don't think

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Speaker 22: people want the product. And if you start trying to

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Speaker 22: subsidize by pulling down other companies that are doing well,

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Speaker 22: you're just delaying the change that needs to happen. That

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Speaker 22: we need more journalism we can actually trust.

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Speaker 2: By While I got you this absentee and business down

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Speaker 2: thirty percent on travel, you know, the flight center stuff,

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Speaker 2: I didn't think it would work as much as it has.

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Speaker 2: You've got to be pleased with thirty percent.

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Speaker 22: Well, I haven't talked to them directly, and I've only

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Speaker 22: seen what's been reported in media, But yeah, that does

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Speaker 22: unreally positive. I mean Term one this year was the

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Speaker 22: best Term one in five years going back to twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 22: so I think people are starting to take attendance more

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Speaker 22: seriously and obviously thrilled about that, but it's far too

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Speaker 22: early to celebrate. The truth is that you know that

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Speaker 22: term one might be a high point in five years,

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Speaker 22: but you know, we got sixty two point three percent

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Speaker 22: of students attending regularly. Our target as a government is

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Speaker 22: eighty percent by the end of the decade. It's a

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Speaker 22: long way from sixty two percent regular attendants to eighty

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Speaker 22: So it absolutely have to continue to make this a

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Speaker 22: national project that the more kids go to school, the

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Speaker 22: more knowledge with past of the next generation, the brighter

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Speaker 22: the future for all of us because each of those

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Speaker 22: kids are empowered to succeed in whatever the next century

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Speaker 22: throws at us.

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Speaker 2: Well, so appreciate it. David Seymour, Act Leader. It is

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Speaker 2: eleven minutes past seven asking what's to say about us?

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Speaker 2: A narratitude towards education that all takes us, David saym

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Speaker 2: or to go, hey, you're not going to go take

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Speaker 2: an extra week on the score holidays, get to school

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Speaker 2: and suddenly we do. We're like sheep, aren't We couldn't

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Speaker 2: work that out for ourselves. Seriously, back to youth crime,

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Speaker 2: the target is to reduce it by fifteen percent, but

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Speaker 2: ministerial briefing papers we got this morning show the Minister

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Speaker 2: is potentially not doing enough to reach it. Too much

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Speaker 2: is being expected to police, apparently not on our focus

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Speaker 2: being given to the role of partner agencies like OT

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Speaker 2: and youth support providers. Blue Light CEO Brendan Crompton back

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Speaker 2: with us. Brendan, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 7: Hey, good morning, Mike. How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm very well and do thank you. So the police intervene,

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Speaker 2: the argument being they need back up, would that broadly

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Speaker 2: be your view of matters?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, as you know on my expliceman myself. So yeah,

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Speaker 7: the pleasure there to do enforcement day. They're plan to

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Speaker 7: get the young person into court or into a family

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Speaker 7: group conference and then order on company and its providers,

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Speaker 7: of which we are. We provide services to young people

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Speaker 7: who offended. We've actually been doing this for thirty years.

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Speaker 7: We do that in community support for those young people.

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Speaker 2: It's important to point out Mark Mitchell, the Minister concern

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Speaker 2: points out they've got all the resources they need, so

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Speaker 2: he said, he said, anyway, how much of the crime,

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Speaker 2: in your view or experience requires intensive levels and intervention

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Speaker 2: as opposed to a clip around the ear. Maybe a charge.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe something in the kids straightened out.

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Speaker 7: Well, I suppose mil I listened often to to your

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Speaker 7: radio station. People going to really mention all the kids

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Speaker 7: that we deal with have at the same one with

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Speaker 7: three of these factors that failed mainstream education, so they're

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Speaker 7: not on school or or any sort of training. The

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Speaker 7: second factor they have just faxed dysfunctional family and friends.

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Speaker 7: So there's family violence, criminality, drugs, alcohol, certainly no positive

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Speaker 7: role are male role models. And they're not in anything

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Speaker 7: organized so that other clubs. They're not in church or

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Speaker 7: sports or kapahaka. And there's fantastic examples of the kids

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Speaker 7: have offended who have been brought into a sports team

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Speaker 7: or boxing, all those examples that you get and they

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Speaker 7: no longer offend. So all those all those things we

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Speaker 7: can identify at primary school. And so when people do

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Speaker 7: about early intervention, I've been doing this for thirty years

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Speaker 7: that we've always known that, but no one puts money.

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Speaker 7: You know that all the government agencies talk about early

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Speaker 7: intervention and the police at their jobs not to do

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Speaker 7: early intervention. Their jobs the police, and then people point

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Speaker 7: the fingers them when youth crime's high, but pre work's

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Speaker 7: not be getting done. And there's lots of programs. If

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Speaker 7: you look at the military boot camps, whatever you want

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Speaker 7: to call it, if you actually look at the pillars

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Speaker 7: of what they're teaching the kids, respect for yourself, respect

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Speaker 7: for others, commitment, motivation, routine. You have to get up

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Speaker 7: in the morning, make your bed, spend the day engaged.

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Speaker 7: It's pretty good if you want to get a job.

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Speaker 7: Our teamwork and they will work on health and well beings.

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Speaker 7: So the actual what the program is, I think people

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Speaker 7: need to stop focusing on the name and actually say, well,

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Speaker 7: this is what we're trying to do. But that intensive

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Speaker 7: support that they're going to get way deep into the

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Speaker 7: cycle of offending. So the intervention is coming, but that

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Speaker 7: early stuff has never been earlier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good inside Brandon as always appreciated. Brandon Crompton, who's

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Speaker 2: the Blue Light CEO forourteen Minutes past seven, Mark will

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Speaker 2: have something to say on that. I'm sure. After eight

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Speaker 2: o'clock this morning, she was asked. John Pierre was asked

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Speaker 2: about the sequence of events and whether it's you know,

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Speaker 2: a fair inquiry.

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Speaker 8: And I have said it is a fair question to ask.

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Speaker 8: The President sees it as a legitimate question and I

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Speaker 8: think also the President saying, I am not a young man.

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Speaker 8: I'm not as a smooth a smooth talker as I

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Speaker 8: used to be. I don't walk as easily as I

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Speaker 8: used to be I used to I don't debate as

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Speaker 8: well as I used to. I mean, the President is

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Speaker 8: admitting and saying and this is not the first time, right,

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Speaker 8: He's talked about his age. He's joked about his age

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Speaker 8: many times before. And so you heard that directly from

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Speaker 8: We are acknowledging what people are seeing, but we do believe.

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Speaker 12: Really this was a.

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Speaker 8: In this instance, it was a bad night.

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Speaker 2: She's not really selling him, is she. It is fifteen

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Speaker 2: past seven Mike Huskyist Yeah, politics Wednesday after write a

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Speaker 2: talk account onl Zippolonian for Genny this morning along with

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Speaker 2: Mit Mitchell. Of course, hight teen past seven you dot

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Speaker 2: around our slide to recover tourism industry International visitors back

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Speaker 2: tet eighty percent now of what we saw pre COVID,

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Speaker 2: they were two point nine to six million lost year.

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Speaker 2: CEO of Titlely tourism falls with us Mark morning.

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Speaker 23: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: I just don't see this as a thing to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking at countries in Europe that are

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Speaker 2: one hundred plus and they hate tourists and they're you know,

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Speaker 2: protesting in the streets and we're going it's eighty, it's

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Speaker 2: eighty one, it's eighty two. What's wrong with us?

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Speaker 23: Well, I guess you've got a put of perspective. You

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Speaker 23: go back twenty twenty one, we had eighty two thousand

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Speaker 23: people a right, so businesses like ours when COVID arriving,

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Speaker 23: they lost ninety percent of our business overnight. To get

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Speaker 23: back to eighty percent is a positive, certainly, not a negative.

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Speaker 19: But you're right.

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Speaker 23: We've got to keep in perspective and we've got to

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Speaker 23: keep working hard at rebuilding the industry. And I think

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Speaker 23: it doesn't reflect time a year and the type of

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Speaker 23: visitor that's coming is important to focus on. You know,

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Speaker 23: in the last twenty four hours down here in Queenstown,

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Speaker 23: if that's snow, that'll certainly turn the tap on for winter.

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Speaker 23: No snow. Australians are pretty savvy. They're won't fly over

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Speaker 23: here to go skiing. As soon as it arrives, you know, conductivity,

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Speaker 23: they can book their flight and right.

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Speaker 2: If you're an outlier though in Queenstown, aren't your Queenstown

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Speaker 2: seems to be back to some form of normality. The

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Speaker 2: country doesn't seem to be the case. Are you happy

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Speaker 2: with the way we're selling ourselves, the marketing, the branding

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Speaker 2: to the world, that all seasonal tourist type approach they're

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Speaker 2: taking is all of that good stuff?

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Speaker 19: Yes it is.

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Speaker 23: But look, I can probably comment on other areas we operate,

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Speaker 23: the West coast Mount Cook and they certainly hit very

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Speaker 23: hard over COVID, So I mean, like the West Coast

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Speaker 23: Friends and Fox, it was like the ghost towns. They

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Speaker 23: have seen certainly seen the benefit of the return of

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Speaker 23: international travel, but giving back to promote end of the country,

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Speaker 23: I think we do have to be careful not to

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Speaker 23: focus too much on all the negatives of over crowding

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Speaker 23: region of tourism. You know, we have to we actually

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Speaker 23: have to acknowledge those points, but we don't want to

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Speaker 23: lose sight of the fact that comes to New Zeale

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Speaker 23: and have a great time, have a lot of fun,

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Speaker 23: enjoyed our joy our food and wine, enjoy the outdoor activities.

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Speaker 19: You know.

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Speaker 23: And there's been a lot of investment in that type

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Speaker 23: of promotion over many many years. Right now, we've got

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Speaker 23: two staff members in China doing a sales trip, working

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Speaker 23: with touristm New Zealand and some of our partners to

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Speaker 23: encourage people to come here and tell them why they

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Speaker 23: should come good. Well, you certainly, yeah, you certainly focus

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Speaker 23: on a negative, but we've got to get out there

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Speaker 23: and say to people New Zealand's still a fantastic holiday destination,

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Speaker 23: very very affordable, and New Zealanders that are hosting people good.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hope the message gets out there. Certainly the

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Speaker 2: dollars helping us at the moment. Marke appreciate it. Mark

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Speaker 2: quick Full, CEO of Totally Tourism. Students aren't back either,

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Speaker 2: International students. This is they're growing, but it's plateauing and

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Speaker 2: they're not back to where it was. We'll look at

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Speaker 2: that after a seven thirty as well at seven twenty one.

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Speaker 2: the fact the government is going ahead with Labour's Digital

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Speaker 2: Media Bill, albeit with amendments, is not really the story.

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Speaker 2: The fact Act has played this agree to disagree chart

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Speaker 2: is not really the story. The real story is does

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Speaker 2: it solve the problem?

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Speaker 24: Ah?

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Speaker 2: The problem? What exactly is the problem? Well, the problem

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Speaker 2: is the media, or at least parts of it, are

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Speaker 2: in a financial hole and have decided that if only

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Speaker 2: we can get Facebook or Google Instagram to the table

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Speaker 2: and get them to give us some money, we can

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Speaker 2: bring back fair go or hire back a journal that's

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Speaker 2: been laid off. If only it were that easy. There's

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Speaker 2: universal agreement in the media that the social media giants

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Speaker 2: are taking money out of the market, and there is

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Speaker 2: general agreement that that is pretty much unfair, given they

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Speaker 2: monetize someone else's work. Now, the fact the media outlets

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Speaker 2: use Facebook to pump their service and outlets and digital

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Speaker 2: sites doesn't get quite as widely covered. But let's not

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Speaker 2: interrupt the David and Goliath narrative flow and kill the buzz.

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Speaker 2: Should Facebook cut a deal? Probably? Have they elsewhere? Well,

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Speaker 2: that's another problem, sort of but not really. In Canada

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Speaker 2: hasn't worked well. The government's ended up handing out money

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Speaker 2: to news organizations after services got turned off. Australia's in

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Speaker 2: the middle of striking another deal which may or may

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Speaker 2: not work the government, or under pressure from places like

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Speaker 2: Channel nine Channel seven who are laying off people by

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Speaker 2: the hundred. It all boils down to the idea, does

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Speaker 2: a social media giant need New Zealand Do they care

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Speaker 2: enough to pay This government can pass a law introduce

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Speaker 2: harbdration untill they're blue in the face. The same way,

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Speaker 2: social media giants aren't supposed to allow extremists and dangerous

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Speaker 2: material online or lower impressionable teenagers to spend their life scrolling.

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Speaker 2: Have those laws worked? How many American and European investigations

869
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: and committee question and answer sessions do you want to

870
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: see where politicians act tough for the camera. Zuckerberg might

871
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 2: stand up and apologize to grieving families, But has it worked. No, Yes,

872
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: we have a problem, but do we have a solution.

873
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: It's probably I think at the end of the day,

874
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: it's probably worth the exercise. But don't be remotely surprised

875
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: if in the real world it achieves nothing. Scarrning, Mike,

876
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: I think it's too early to say the thirty percent

877
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: reduction more likely due to the current economic climate. I'm

878
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: getting quite a bit of that feedback. You've missed the

879
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: complexity or the detail of the story. The number of

880
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: people booking is up, more people are on holiday, but

881
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: it's within the confines of the school holidays, whereas it

882
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 2: used to be spread across the week before the week after.

883
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: Those bookings are down thirty percent, but the bookings for

884
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: the school holidays are up, thus indicating still more peace.

885
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: People are going on holiday, They're just doing it within

886
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: the school holiday time. Auckland ninth most liveable city in

887
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: the world, Mike for homeless people. Let me come back

888
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: to that, Mike Liverable. I live in Kingsland, Central Auckland.

889
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: Last night it took me ninety minutes to get home

890
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: at five o'clock from Commercial Bay to cancel trains, one

891
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: bus that moved two hundred meters and forty minutes, so

892
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: I got off, went back to the train station, more

893
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: cancel trains, finally got home at six thirty. Liverable, Mike,

894
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: my head office hr and Oz had an out of

895
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 2: office message yesterday, seeing she was off work planting trees

896
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: for Koala. I just thought, of course you are. So

897
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: let me come back to the scores. They've given Auckland

898
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: as a liverable city. In fact all of the cities

899
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: as Liverpool cities. Is laughable, and in there is another

900
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: revelation that you don't necessarily want to trust surveys.

901
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: White the Big News, Bold Opinions, The Mike Hosking Breakfast

902
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: with Alveda Live, The age you feel news talk, said Mike.

903
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: I'm taking a five year old and seven year old

904
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: grandkids to Fiji this week are after the school holidays.

905
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: Oh well, when you say the week after right, I'll

906
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 2: let you know how low the numbers and dinner are

907
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: are of kids holiday and when we get back. Thank you, Dug.

908
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be taking your grand kids out of school.

909
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: New Zealand tomato grows. I feel like I need to

910
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: give you some good news on the economy and I can. Fortunately,

911
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: this morning tomatoes are back into Australia. The peppino mosaic

912
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: virus pep MV that was a problem for Australia and

913
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: it's been a problem for a number of years. They

914
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: finally got past it and we can get our tomatoes

915
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: back into Australia. It's not the biggest industry in the world,

916
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: the tomato industry, but they'll take a couple of million

917
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: dollars worth of tomatoes, about six hundred thousand kilograms of

918
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 2: tomatoes each year, so that's sort of good. Also in

919
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: the Niche area this morning there's a trade deal that

920
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: we signed with Costa Rica, Iceland and Switzerland. What a

921
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: wacky combination of countries removing tariffs on hundreds of products.

922
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: This is good. It's focusing on trade and sustainable goods

923
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: and services. The tariffs have gone on forty one wood

924
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: products and wool forty one wood products. It's a lot

925
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: of wood products, isn't it? Wool fiber swag wall. I'd

926
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: rename that. That'll be my first piece of advice if

927
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: I work for New Zealand wool, I'd go, let's let's talk.

928
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 9: Brand in trouble. Is it selling the slag Let's.

929
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: Talk Brandon, guys. Are we not? How's the slag wall going? Guys?

930
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: And I'd say, let's let's look for a refresh whiteboard.

931
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: Everybody a recycled paper. I don't know how much of

932
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: that we do anyway. The trade agreement's the first New

933
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: Zealand has concluded with these countries outside the WTO No kidding,

934
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 2: but anyway business.

935
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 9: But the cool thing about that deal is, though, because

936
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 9: it's Costa Rica, Iceland and Switzerland, it's got a much

937
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 9: better name than the like the PPPTA or whatever that

938
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 9: is Costa Rica, Iceland and Switzerland. It's just Chris, isn't it?

939
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: The Chris Deal twenty two to eighteen.

940
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 17: See that's the.

941
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: Sort of genius you don't get in schools. There's a

942
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 2: sort of high for looton brilliance that you don't find

943
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: in any institution. A little bit of hope around the

944
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: international student speaking, which is the number now back up

945
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,479
Speaker 2: to sixty seven percent, sixty seven percent up on last year.

946
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: We're still only at sixty percent of the pre pandemic enrollments.

947
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: General Manager of Marketing and Comms for Education New Zealand,

948
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: Jeff Bilbers with us. Jeff, very good morning to you.

949
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 22: Good morning, Mike.

950
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 7: Shut me on.

951
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: As you look at the numbers at sixty percent, do

952
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: you worry? Do you think I wish we were better?

953
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 9: Oh?

954
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 25: Well, we could always do better, and clearly there's more

955
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 25: to do. But you know, we've only had one full

956
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 25: academic year since the border has opened and we've got

957
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 25: nearly well sixty nine thousand enrollment. Yeah, I'm pretty happy

958
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 25: with that. It's got us back to a good chunk,

959
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 25: particularly in the university sector where they are nearly back

960
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 25: to eighty six percent of twenty nineteen. So we've had

961
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 25: some good growth in some areas. But yeah, clearly there's

962
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 25: more to do. And picking up on the tomato story.

963
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 25: It's good news for the economy to have international students

964
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 25: back in the country.

965
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: That is true. Why aren't we one hundred percent.

966
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 25: Well internicial education is It's not like hopping on a

967
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 25: plane and coming for a holiday. With all due respect

968
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 25: to my friends at tourism, it's a decision that takes

969
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 25: some time. It's, as someone said to me, a decision

970
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 25: around the two most important things in people's lives, their

971
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 25: children and their money. So it takes some time for

972
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 25: them to do their research. These decisions take over two

973
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 25: or three years, so it takes some time. Our borders

974
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,479
Speaker 25: were closed for a while and our competitors were open

975
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 25: a little bit earlier, but we had bounced that really well,

976
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 25: and I'm really optimistic about the future. I think the

977
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 25: experience that we give these students, the research shows that

978
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 25: they it's meeting their expectations and that they're willing to

979
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 25: go home and tell their family and friends that they

980
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 25: had a good time. So I think that's all good.

981
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. Although I look to Australia, they're back

982
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: at one hundred. They've got so many that they've got

983
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: a problem. They've changed the visa requirements because they've been

984
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 2: literally flooded with international students. What are they doing that

985
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: we're not so?

986
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 25: Immediately after and towards the end of the pandemic, Australia

987
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 25: and Canada both had made a decision to loosen the

988
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 25: settings for instancial students. And what you talked about is

989
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 25: the flood that they received and that's caused them problems,

990
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 25: and the student experience has been pored in some of

991
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 25: those markets. Canada in particular had very poor student experience

992
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 25: and a lost the public perception towards international education was

993
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 25: also damaged, I think as part of that. So they've

994
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 25: really had to change their settings, and frankly, their settings

995
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 25: look a lot more like ours now. And so our

996
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 25: approach has been much more managed, much much steadier and

997
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 25: consistent growth, and I think that's been to our advantage.

998
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 22: Really.

999
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: Okay, reputationally, are we damaged or not?

1000
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 25: No, I don't think so. And I think the fact

1001
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 25: that we've got fifty nine thousand enrollments suggests that our enrollment,

1002
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 25: our reputation is a good place to study, a safe environment,

1003
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 25: quality education, and something that offers both education and an

1004
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 25: experience alongside educator quality education. I think our reputation.

1005
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: Is intact I'm glad to hear it. Jeff, go well

1006
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 2: with up, Jeff, Billbrok the sooner we get back to

1007
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: the way we used to be the better Education New

1008
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: Zealand General Manager of Marketing and Communications eighteen away from

1009
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: eight tasking. Well, this is the economics unit that we've

1010
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: told you about before. Remember, I can't remember. Several years

1011
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: ago they came up with Auckland being the fifth most

1012
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: liberabal city in the world, and we literally fell off

1013
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 2: our chairs laughing. Most liberal city in the world's Vienna, Vienna, Copenhagen, Zurich, Melbourne, Melbourne. Really,

1014
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: I honestly don't think these people get out of the

1015
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 2: office Melbourne, Calgary, Geneva, Sidney, Vancouver, Osaka. Auckland is night

1016
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 2: people with Osaka. So here are the scores. Everything's out

1017
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 2: of one hundred eighty to one hundred means there are few,

1018
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 2: if any challenges to living standards. So Auckland scored for stability.

1019
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 2: Stability is things like crime, petty crime, violent crime, terror attacks,

1020
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 2: and wars. Now we got ninety five, so you go, well,

1021
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: hold on, you know what about the ram raids? What

1022
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 2: about so obviously what they see from London, terror attacks

1023
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: and wars yep, Okay, not many of them, but so

1024
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: that's a good score. Healthcare. This is what it takes

1025
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 2: into account. Healthcare indicators, availability of public and private care,

1026
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: ease of over the counter drugs, to ease of under

1027
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: the counter drugs, which is Amsterdam anyway. Ninety five point eight.

1028
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: So the media will tell you the health system is

1029
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 2: absolutely bucket. You can't get a GP, you can't get

1030
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: a specialist, the hospital is a choker. And yet they

1031
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 2: score ninety five point eight. So someone's not right. Culture

1032
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: and the environment, so food, drink, sport, temperature, censorship, level

1033
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: of corruption, you'd expect us to score. Well, there, we're

1034
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 2: a pretty clean country. Ninety seven point nine. Education Availability

1035
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: and quality of public and private education. We've just been

1036
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 2: talking about the truancy issues getting kids to school, the qualifications,

1037
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: number of kids who leave school. With that, we got

1038
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 2: one hundred. We got one hundred out of what one

1039
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: hundred And even if you left school when.

1040
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 9: You are eight sorry I did maths in New Zealand, so.

1041
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: Exactly, even if you left school when you were eight

1042
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 2: and you failed level one en CEA, there is no

1043
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: way in hell our education system is perfect, which is

1044
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: what I hundred is infrastructure, public transport, international links, housing, energy, water,

1045
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: Telco ninety two point nine. Anyway, I can't give you

1046
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 2: ten through twenty five because to do that, allegedly according

1047
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: to the website, you need to give them eight thousand

1048
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: US dollars. So what we discover at the moment Wait

1049
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: a minute, yeah, exactly what you discover the moment you

1050
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: see that? Is it a Ponzi scheme? Sixteen to eight

1051
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 2: costing breakfast thirteen away from Mike, Have you actually seen

1052
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: what kids are doing in the last or first weeks

1053
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 2: of term? Absolutely nothing, It's ridiculous. I would tend to

1054
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: agree with not removing kids from school, however, the movie

1055
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: days and the other art days, et cetera, and not

1056
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: what I consider necessary for the kids to attend. It's

1057
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: not a bad point. I walk a very fine line

1058
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 2: between trying to support the schools because you want to

1059
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 2: support the schools and you want your kids to go

1060
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 2: to school. But I mean, having had five kids through

1061
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 2: the thing, it's you make a reasonable point. Mike, New

1062
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 2: Zealand company Fabrim will provide toyotomotor, whether it's proprietary liquid

1063
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: hydrogen storage system. Luxon also said the Japanese construction company

1064
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 2: ob Yashi will acquire a fifty percent stake in Easland

1065
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: Generation for around half a billion dollars to support the

1066
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 2: New Zealand company's renewable energy operations. This was done during

1067
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: Luxeon's trip to Japan. You won't see in New Zealand media, Andy,

1068
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: what a very good point. You're quite right. We didn't.

1069
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: And no one trolls the medium more than I do,

1070
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: and I didn't see that. Speaking of hydrogen, there's a

1071
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something about the hydrogen racing they're going

1072
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: to get into hydrogen. No one loves hydrogen more than me.

1073
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: Extreme h hydrogen powered racing car. They launched it yesterday,

1074
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: Pioneer twenty five Potential of hydrogen cells. It's developed by

1075
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: Spark Racing seventy five killer what hydrogen fuel cell that

1076
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 2: powers a battery pack four hundred kilobot's of power twenty

1077
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: two hundred kg's at way, So it's lighter than an

1078
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: EV goes zero to one hundred and four and a half,

1079
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: which is not that good, tackles gradients up to one

1080
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty degrees, which is good anyway. So they're

1081
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: going to daburt all in Scotland thirteenth to fourteenth of July,

1082
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,479
Speaker 2: and the first season is going to have ten rounds,

1083
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: five locations, places like Saudi Arabia, the US, UK, Germany

1084
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: and Italy. Since Carlos owns one team gents and Button

1085
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 2: owns another.

1086
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 9: That's signs senior, isn't.

1087
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: It, Carlos?

1088
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, I believe if you've been reading the same articles

1089
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 9: about that as me.

1090
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to get I'm going to give you

1091
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt on that.

1092
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 9: Unfortunately, when you research this stuff, you then start getting

1093
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 9: all these other articles about water powered cars as well,

1094
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 9: water powered engines and stuff like that. Okay, and now

1095
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 9: it turns out that Toyota's got a hydrogen say yesterday,

1096
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 9: now I really got ammonia. Apparently it's the next big thing.

1097
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: What stuff you clean your pipes with?

1098
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 9: Correct?

1099
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: Well, apparently that'll be clean exhaust, wouldn't it.

1100
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 9: It's easier, Yes, this would probably.

1101
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: Smell fresh, would smell fresh and clean.

1102
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 9: I don't know, it might smell like cat pee. Why, well,

1103
00:54:58,800 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 9: isn't that what.

1104
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: Don't smell freshing clean? Doesn't ammonia? I thought ammonia is

1105
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 2: smelt clean.

1106
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 9: But anyway, Apparently, if they can just figure out how

1107
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 9: to stop it dissolving everything that it.

1108
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 2: Touches, it's going to be that's the downside of it. Yeah,

1109
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 2: it's going to be the fuel, whereas I think hydrogen

1110
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: is a little bit better on that front, isn't it.

1111
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 2: I could talk about this for ever. Unfortunately I don't

1112
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: have time. Actually I probably do. Actually it's my show.

1113
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,959
Speaker 2: I could have time. No, no, I won't turn away from.

1114
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: Its breakfast where our dog said.

1115
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: Going away from it? So how about this holiday bunking success?

1116
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: So data from flight Center more of us have booked

1117
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: to travel in the school holes compared with last year,

1118
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: but there's been a thirty percent drop in family bookings

1119
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: during term time. So the government crackdown has it worked?

1120
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: General manager of flight Center Heidi Walkers with us Hiday morning.

1121
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 26: Good morning.

1122
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: How sure of you are the numbers? Is this just

1123
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: a sort of a first blush? It's it seems like

1124
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: it could be a thing.

1125
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 26: It's we're always looking at data. It does seem to

1126
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 26: be a thing now. Obviously we'll continue to look it

1127
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 26: at that. We've just been interested to see has the

1128
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 26: news kind of changed the way that people are purchasing

1129
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 26: their holidays and whether they're taking their children out of

1130
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 26: school or not.

1131
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: Because part of that, the ten percent up versus the

1132
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: thirty percent down is there's something cost of living ish

1133
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: in that as well. In other words, there aren't as

1134
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 2: many people traveling.

1135
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 26: I have no doubt that the cost of living impacts

1136
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 26: families holiday decisions. But what we're just trying to understand

1137
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 26: is we've still got families traveling. When are they wanting

1138
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 26: to travel? Where are they wanting to travel too? And

1139
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 26: you know what we are seeing is that people are

1140
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 26: being flexible with where they want to go so they

1141
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 26: still can have those holidays as a family because it

1142
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 26: creates memories. And you know that is something that film

1143
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 26: not really important enoughter covid.

1144
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: That thirty percent drop, is that mainly international or domestic

1145
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: or both?

1146
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 26: That's mainly international. The domestic market, you know, that continues

1147
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 26: to truck along. We don't have too much with that,

1148
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 26: but that's the international market.

1149
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: And is it long haul international? It's the old Look,

1150
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: we're going all the way to Europe. Can we have

1151
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: an extra week off school? Et cetera, et cetera.

1152
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 26: At this stage, it looks like it's more our shorthaul

1153
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 26: sort of destination, so our Australia and our South paciffect,

1154
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 26: which is generally where a lot of our families will

1155
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 26: go because of the length of time that they can

1156
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 26: take away from New Zealand.

1157
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 2: And that whole excuse around, it's so expensive in the

1158
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: school holidays and if I went a week earlier or

1159
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: week after, it's so much cheaper. How true is that?

1160
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 26: Unfortunately it is true. It is true because it's supply

1161
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 26: and demand, so we've got more people obviously wanting to

1162
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,479
Speaker 26: travel to those family destinations during the school holidays. So yes,

1163
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 26: it is true. But booking as far in advance as

1164
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 26: you can is your best bet to get a good deal.

1165
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: How many tickets have you sold to Europe for this

1166
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: month and next so people can go luxury eating a

1167
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: European summer.

1168
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 26: Not as many as we would love to be selling that.

1169
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 26: We just looked at some data the other day and

1170
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 26: there's still really good deals to be able to go

1171
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,919
Speaker 26: to Europe obviously with the Olympics on and things like that,

1172
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 26: but that hasn't been our core family sector, so we

1173
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 26: don't have all of that.

1174
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 21: Data right now.

1175
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 2: What's core family Fiji Gold Coast, Queenstown.

1176
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 26: Yes, Fiji Gold Coast, Cook Island Ratung is also really popular.

1177
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 26: And then after that we do see destinations like Bali,

1178
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 26: for example, or Hawaii start to become more popular.

1179
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: So why still the thing is a dump, isn't it?

1180
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: I mean last time I ow it was such a

1181
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: hole I wouldn't go back.

1182
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 26: It had great shopping and beautiful beaches, so lots of

1183
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 26: people love it.

1184
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: But it is a choice good only Heidy nice to

1185
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 2: talk to you Awai and the muffey Heidi Walker out

1186
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: of flight Center. It's just Raratong is not warm at

1187
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: this time of year. I've got a person, my daughter's

1188
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 2: boyfriend's coming back from Raratonga today and it's like twenty

1189
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: one to twenty two degrees, which is nice. Raratong is nice,

1190
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but it's not that warm. Ammonia

1191
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: is NH three three parts hydrogen, one part nitrogen. The

1192
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: nitrogen just stabilizes the hydrogen into a transportable form. Tell

1193
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 2: Glenn to give himself an upper cup of missing science

1194
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: at school? Glenn, what have I got wrong there? Text

1195
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: like him, Sorry, no, dumb, You see what the point is.

1196
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 2: Step out of the room.

1197
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 15: News is next, demanding the answers from the decision makers,

1198
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 15: the mic Asking, Breakfast with Jaguar, The Art of Performance

1199
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 15: News tomsh b.

1200
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 17: Go down to the value fine, true Low.

1201
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 5: Listen to the blues and the gospel of Jeeves.

1202
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 13: Feel the summer sunshine.

1203
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 5: In the southern breeze.

1204
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 17: It the little.

1205
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 13: Wimpling cry.

1206
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: She's made nine elm from what she made eight this

1207
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 2: sisond Night, Medaline Perrot, Let's walk. She's covered jazz previously,

1208
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: she's done great American songbook standards. Often Co writes, these

1209
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: are originals, a little bit of jazz, a little bit

1210
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: of blues, a little bit of folks. There ten tracks.

1211
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 2: They all seem remarkably the same length, anywhere between about

1212
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 2: four h one and four roh three.

1213
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 16: Oh.

1214
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 9: I love a consistent link the song, don't you on it?

1215
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 2: So if you've got ten tracks and roughly four minutes,

1216
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: got about forty minutes with a years ago, they are

1217
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: or thereabouts eight minutes past eight. It is politics Wednesday.

1218
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell is with us long with carmel Cepaloni, who

1219
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: is in for Ginny Anderson, who I believe to be

1220
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: in China. Good morning to you.

1221
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 17: Both, morning Camel Now Mark.

1222
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 2: You're on the road, you're on the wire. Rasis when's

1223
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister going to road the way.

1224
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 6: As he's looking at Saturday, he's trying to get the

1225
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 6: afore Saturday.

1226
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 24: So yeah, is there something wrong with the council there

1227
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 24: as regards the bar as regards the flooding and why

1228
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 24: are you involved or the government involved in something council

1229
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 24: should do and clearly haven't been doing properly.

1230
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 6: Look, so there's not the The Warror Council themselves have

1231
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 6: done an outstanding job with staff then had done an

1232
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 6: outstanding job in terms of not only deal with Gobriel,

1233
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 6: but obviously this latest flooding event, and of course the

1234
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 6: government has got a role to play to make sure

1235
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 6: that we're alongside them, supporting them in that and of

1236
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 6: course the town itself there is major concern around the

1237
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 6: management of the river mouth and whether or not that

1238
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 6: contributed to you know, it made the flood stream. That

1239
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 6: leads me yeah, well, I mean but obviously there's got

1240
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 6: to be a process that's gone through to identify clearly,

1241
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 6: you know what the issues are. Number one, to address

1242
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 6: those issues for Warra. Number two, to make sure that

1243
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 6: they can have confidence that the mitigations but in place

1244
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 6: that doesn't happen again.

1245
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 2: Okay, came a couple of things for you. One, why

1246
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: are so many of your people? That's not criticisms, just

1247
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 2: a question. Why are so many of your people on leave?

1248
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 2: Is it because it's recess and everyone just naps off

1249
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: and goes on holiday.

1250
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 21: Well, I think it's still a lot of us here.

1251
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 21: We've got the majority of labor caucus in Auckland this

1252
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 21: week for away caucus here and people do take leave,

1253
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 21: so you know, like the best time to take it

1254
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 21: is during resett So obviously we want to know how

1255
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 21: many people are away at any given time. Do you

1256
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 21: think I wouldn't be surprised if there's a few National

1257
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 21: imps there are on lead too.

1258
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. The probably is is there enough parliament going on

1259
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 2: carmel At the moment? There seems to be a lot

1260
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: of down weeks.

1261
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 21: It feels like that, particularly after a budget, we haven't

1262
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 21: had the opportunity that we would have usually to interrogate

1263
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 21: the government because they've had very few sitting weeks, so

1264
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 21: they seem to have manufactured it in a way where

1265
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 21: we haven't had the opportunity to scrutinize them in the way.

1266
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: Which we scrutinized us there, it's a perfect bugure.

1267
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 6: That's right, that's a really good point. But look, we

1268
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 6: just came through a full scrutiny week where the Labor

1269
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 6: Party had a whole week of scrutiny of government ministers,

1270
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 6: which we did. We did.

1271
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 21: We did have that since interrogation, sustained interrogation over a

1272
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 21: theories of sitting week.

1273
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 18: Because unfortunately you had a.

1274
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 6: Week of sustained interigation, it didn't really seem to go

1275
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 6: go anyway you.

1276
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 23: Though quite far.

1277
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 21: Actually, Mark, there are quite a few detrimental headlines for

1278
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 21: you guys.

1279
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was an interesting week. I think in totality,

1280
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: would you agree Carmel in general take the politics out

1281
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 2: of for a moment. As an idea, Scrutiny Week's a

1282
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 2: good idea.

1283
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 21: I think it is a good idea. I think that

1284
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 21: we can make it better. It's the first time that

1285
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 21: it's been held, but certainly had the government under the

1286
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 21: spotlight for that week.

1287
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: Okay, tell us Mark, I know you're in Wyrara and

1288
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 2: this is probably a million miles away from where your

1289
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: head is. But this media bill, which was Labour's idea originally,

1290
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 2: of course, and Goldsmith rolled it out yesterday. Are you

1291
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: guys in National genuinely in for this audio? Sort of?

1292
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 2: Is this a soopweed? We'll give it a crack and

1293
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: see what happens.

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Speaker 6: No, I think no, we're definitely in for it. Otherwise

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Speaker 6: you wouldn't have put the bill forward. But you know, yes,

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Speaker 6: it's Paul Goldsmith's portfolio of it. Ay, we are fully

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Speaker 6: committed to it without doubt.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it'll work?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean, honestly might that's a question

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Speaker 6: of heard your challenges and in the points that you've made,

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Speaker 6: I think they're very, very good and valid ones. I

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Speaker 6: think that. But I think at the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: get Paul on and have a chat about it. You know,

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Speaker 6: I can certainly go through some of the things that

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Speaker 6: obviously have been trying that they're trying to achieve through

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Speaker 6: the bill, and I think everyone agrees that you have

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Speaker 6: to be doing something, you know, and that's accept what

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Speaker 6: Paul's doing.

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Speaker 2: See, here's the interesting thing, cantell. I mean, I know

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Speaker 2: it's Willy's idea and all that sort of stuff. So

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Speaker 2: you guys, I will please know, I assume you're going

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Speaker 2: to vote for.

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Speaker 21: It, right, Yeah, I think I think that's definitely where

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Speaker 21: we're heading. Okay, I think you should get done, Paul

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Speaker 21: and Willie, and I think it would be a good discussion.

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Speaker 21: They might be agreeing, but.

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Speaker 2: It strikes me as and look, you know, give me

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Speaker 2: the credit for having been in this industry for a while,

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Speaker 2: I just don't. I mean, I like the idea in

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Speaker 2: the sense that, yes, there's a problem. I just don't

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Speaker 2: see these guys coming to the table because they don't care.

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Speaker 21: Well, yeah, I just keep going back.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, no, I was just going to say, love, I

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Speaker 6: do agree with that when you look around the Cutchows

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Speaker 6: in Australia recently, and yeah, they're struggling and gripping these things.

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Speaker 6: But it doesn't mean that we shouldn't still continue to

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Speaker 6: look for options and in ways of trying to create

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Speaker 6: a level playing field. But yes, but I agree with

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Speaker 6: you Mike that it's a big mountain to climb.

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Speaker 2: Where do you reckon? Come on?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, this is probably the one thing that we'll agree

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Speaker 21: on in this interview.

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Speaker 2: So you think it's a mountain to climb, but it's

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Speaker 2: worth a crack to see if you can do it,

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Speaker 2: and it's better than doing nothing. Absolutely, Okay, re break

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Speaker 2: More in a Moment, Mark Mitchell, Camel Zippeloni thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen past eight Camel Zippolonian for Jinny this week along

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Speaker 2: with Marke Mitchell. Of course, Mark, you're in the news

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Speaker 2: this morning. Are these briefing papers to you suggesting that

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Speaker 2: your emphasis on youth crime getting it down to reliant

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Speaker 2: on the police, not enough on early detection or early

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Speaker 2: intervention agencies. You say, what, they've.

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Speaker 6: Definitely got I mean, I'm focusing on the police as well.

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01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 6: Obviously I'm Minister at Police, but and they're doing an

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Speaker 6: outstanding job. But yes, they haven't always been supported well

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Speaker 6: by other agencies and we've got to focus on that

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Speaker 6: as a government to make sure.

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Speaker 19: That that changes.

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Speaker 6: Look, every agency has got a role to play, and

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Speaker 6: my position as policeman is just quite simply been to

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Speaker 6: step up and play your role, because you know, the

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Speaker 6: police are doing their job. They are detecting, they are

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Speaker 6: to investigated, they are arresting offenders, they are opposing bail

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Speaker 6: and then they straighten their count and reoffended.

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Speaker 2: That's the judicial side of the equation. We had Brendan

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Speaker 2: Crompton on earlier from Blue Light. He said, that's all fine,

1358
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Speaker 2: but the police come in and so he was talking

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Speaker 2: about your military academies as well. That's effect and that's fine.

1360
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Speaker 2: But what he was saying is if you get the

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Speaker 2: kid earlier in the intervene earlier, you don't need all

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Speaker 2: of that. I mean, And that makes sense to a degree,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it.

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Speaker 6: No. I agree, And you know, Blue Lights they're doing

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Speaker 6: an outstanding job. They've been around a long time and

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Speaker 6: they invest in not just our kids that are going

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Speaker 6: on the playoffs, but I award the ones that are

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Speaker 6: doing well too. But listen, the reality is this might

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Speaker 6: is that a lot of these programs are very effective

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Speaker 6: for the eighty or ninety percent the due to youth

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Speaker 6: and juveuil offenders. The ones that we're talking about are

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Speaker 6: the recidivist violent youth offenders, the ones that are responsible

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Speaker 6: for multiple aggravated robberies, and we need a really serious intervention,

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Speaker 6: and that is taking them out of the community where

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Speaker 6: they're creating the arm and then investing in them so

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Speaker 6: they can come back and they got the best chance

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Speaker 6: of making good decisions in their lives instead of bad ones.

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Speaker 2: Carmel, let me ask you this Q two ended as

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Speaker 2: this action plan for the government. Q three came into

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Speaker 2: play this week, so Q two. One thing they didn't

1381
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Speaker 2: do was Tepa king. They couldn't get the consultation underway

1382
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: when you as opposition, now look at that. So you

1383
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,919
Speaker 2: put it together, they're deconstructing it. What do you do

1384
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 2: if you get back and do you put it back

1385
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Speaker 2: together again? And how long does that pattern go on for?

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Speaker 21: Are you still talking about the youth? No picking yeah, ah, yeah, Well, I.

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Speaker 25: Mean it's a mess at the moment.

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Speaker 21: You know that the government don't really have a plan

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Speaker 21: for what they're going to do in the space. You

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Speaker 21: know what we saw when we came into government and

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Speaker 21: two thousand and seventeen was a polytech environment and landscape

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Speaker 21: that was in deep trouble financially, they were not sustainable

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Speaker 21: and we had to come up with a plan. It

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Speaker 21: was the creation of Tippukinger. The government have not allowed

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Speaker 21: that to continue and to actually reach the benefits. So

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Speaker 21: now they turn it on its head with no plan

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Speaker 21: moving forward.

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Speaker 26: But that's question we start back.

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Speaker 2: That's my question. You're watching them, you're watching them. Forget

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01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 2: the politics. You don't agree. I get that, but you

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01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 2: put it together. They're pulling it apart. What do you

1402
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Speaker 2: do next time round put it back together again?

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Speaker 21: I mean that that is going to have to be

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01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 21: a discussion that we have over the over the next

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Speaker 21: couple of years. We're not in a position to announce policy,

1406
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 21: but they have turned it upside down unnecessarily. They should

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Speaker 21: have just continued with the trajectory that Pukinger was on

1408
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 21: to ensure that we had, you know, an educational tertory

1409
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 21: landscape that was going to work for New Zealanders, and

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Speaker 21: they haven't done that as well as that, you know,

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01:08:56,479 --> 01:09:01,799
Speaker 21: disestablishing the workforce development councils, disestablished, doing the regional skills

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Speaker 21: leadership groups, all of the things that we're going to

1413
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Speaker 21: help with actually providing a coherent workforce training a landscape

1414
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Speaker 21: across the country so that we've got people who can

1415
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Speaker 21: access the skills and training that they need to be

1416
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Speaker 21: able to take up the jobs that are there.

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Speaker 6: Mike Carmel was right that it was it was a

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Speaker 6: complete mess. It wasn't financially sustainable. And Penny Simmons, who

1419
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 6: of course has got a big background experience in this field,

1420
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 6: is doing a lot of work to make sure that

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Speaker 6: we do have a world class bag.

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Speaker 21: I'm saying the system.

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Speaker 6: That financial that is financially sustainable because Carmel, you guys

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01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 6: made a real hash of it.

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Speaker 21: So in twenty seventeen Marks and then we were.

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Speaker 6: A triple.

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Speaker 23: It is you down.

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Speaker 2: Again, So many hashes, so little time. Chris Sipkins in

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01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 2: his TV cabinet, be honest, Carmel, will you genuine the

1430
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Speaker 2: impressed with that? I'm sorry Chris Hopkins in his TV cabinet.

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01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 21: And its TV cabinet are.

1432
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Speaker 2: You're not up on the Chris Hipkins TV cabinet story.

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01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 21: See the social media and I mean it just goes

1434
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 21: to skillful and you know, hidden talents. Our leader of

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01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 21: the Labor Party, the leader of the Labor Party head.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure, Mark, can you build a TV cabinet

1437
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: from scratch?

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Speaker 21: I don't think he could put one of those together, as.

1439
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Speaker 6: Long as the keys of the good to go.

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Speaker 2: Nice to see you both appreciate it very much. Calvil

1441
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 2: Cephaloni and Mark Mitchell. If you missed the story, I

1442
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 2: was going to use the word loosely, but it was

1443
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 2: in the mainstream media. He took chippy. Part of my

1444
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 2: problem is he's clearly got a lot of time on

1445
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:57,919
Speaker 2: his hands because putting together a from scratch television cabinet

1446
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 2: is a multi hour project, so he's probably on leave

1447
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 2: as well. Carmel Sepeladi Mark Mitchell a twenty two.

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Speaker 19: He had a few things on.

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Speaker 1: The mic Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar News togs V.

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Speaker 2: Now a question for you, where does all the bad

1451
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 2: air in your home go? Well, if you don't have

1452
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 2: a DVS continuous ventilation system, the answers nowhere. And that's

1453
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: bad news. Damp, stale air lingers, that's what causes mold, mildew,

1454
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 2: crying windows. Not good. But what is good is that

1455
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 2: DBS continuous ventilation keeps your home in a constant state

1456
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 2: of comfort by drawing the filtered fresh air in and

1457
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 2: pushing the stale air out. So think about that filtered

1458
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 2: fresh air in stale air out. Very simple, Well, it

1459
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 2: is simple. It works for everyone, including asthmir and elergy sufferers,

1460
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 2: which is even more important. The steady, gentle, quiet circulation

1461
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 2: of fresh air creates and maintains a dry, a healthy atmosphere.

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01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 2: It improves the air quality in your home, which of

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01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 2: course prevents the mold to build. You and the other

1464
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 2: nasties say yes to the people who know ventilation best DVS.

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01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 2: Thousands of homeowners are already experiencing the DBS difference. You

1466
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 2: should too. And if you're planning a new build, by

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01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 2: the way, that's the time new build. DBS is the

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01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,799
Speaker 2: perfect solution. There you go, DBS dot co dot nzet.

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Speaker 2: That is, d VS dot co dot nzetsky Okay, home

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01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,719
Speaker 2: joke time, Mike. Chris Hopkins missus being a cabinet minister,

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Speaker 2: so he's constructed his own cabinet. Mike, I think if

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Speaker 2: you take a close look at Chippy's TV cabinet, the

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01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 2: leagues aren't right. It leans to the left of it.

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Speaker 2: I bet Mark Mitchell's TV cabinet is a couple of

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01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: swapper crates with a few planks across the top. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you weren't expecting that with your little homegrown humor from

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Speaker 2: the listeners. By the way, Mike, in England, you must

1478
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: ask permission first. From principle, they have the right to

1479
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 2: refuse you to zoning. You can lose your child place. Well,

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Speaker 2: what they do is I understand, is that they find

1481
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 2: you if you take your kid out of school and

1482
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 2: without permission, they can find you. And the problem with

1483
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 2: that is that people with money go fine or pay

1484
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Speaker 2: the fine.

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Speaker 9: If the fine is less than the extra cost of

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01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 9: the precise and the accommodation exactly.

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Speaker 2: And there are lots of people who take the kids

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Speaker 2: around the world and go I took my kid on

1489
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 2: a nineteen day holiday round the world, and they learn

1490
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Speaker 2: more in those nineteen days, and they've learned in eighteen years.

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Speaker 9: At school, they were googling what was it before? Cultural immersion?

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Speaker 9: Is that what we're okay? Where they're doing? Forest?

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Speaker 2: Don't ask me anything that happened before forest, forest swings,

1494
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: forest bathing.

1495
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 9: Forest bath, forest bathing, and cultural immersion.

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Speaker 2: As much as I make fun of that sort of stuff,

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Speaker 2: I'm into that. Grounding. I'm into grounding, forest bathing. I'm

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Speaker 2: sort of into I happen to have a forest, as

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Speaker 2: it turns, well, sounds like I got a copy, does it.

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Speaker 2: I got a couple of hundred trees on the side

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Speaker 2: of the property. You stand in amongst that you can

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Speaker 2: feel the benefit. The only thing I don't talk about.

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01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 9: We sound like Prince sorry king charge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't talk about it often because Oprah's

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01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 2: got a forest as well, and she's and she's a

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01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 2: nut job and so I don't I don't want to

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01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 2: come across as crazy.

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01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 9: Don't worry, it'll never happen.

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01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: Do I come across this crazy? Just a little bit

1510
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 2: craisy news for you, and then we'll cross the Tasman

1511
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 2: and Steve Price, your.

1512
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Speaker 1: Trusted source for news and fews, the Mike Hosking Breakfast

1513
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 1: with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate differently Since nineteen

1514
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: seventy three, News togsad Be Mike have.

1515
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: Been taking a daughter out of school in our early

1516
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 2: weekly for three years to go horse riding. The hour

1517
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 2: drive there and back has been the best all of

1518
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 2: last problems to sort of. There're so true, Linda, the

1519
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: old school run. Kids unload on the school run, don't they?

1520
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: And it's one of the great joys of life. Mike.

1521
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 2: My kids have a production on at school this week.

1522
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 2: This is all they've done so much for the one

1523
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 2: hour reading, writing and maths today could have quite easily

1524
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 2: taken the kids on holiday. Got a bit of that

1525
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: feedback and there's something in that as well. Twenty three

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01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 2: minutes away from.

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Speaker 13: Nine International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

1528
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 13: Mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: See Price from Australia. Good Wednesday morning to you. Good

1530
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 2: day there, Mike ms Payman. What I want to know

1531
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: from you before you tell us the story, because I've

1532
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: been following this with a great deal of interest and

1533
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: it's all turned to custard. Was she, prior to what's happened,

1534
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 2: a trouble maker or was she one of those quiet,

1535
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 2: diligent people who on this specific issue, an issue alone,

1536
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: suddenly blew up and the whole thing's gone pear shaped.

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01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 18: The latter.

1538
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,839
Speaker 19: She comes from Wa, and there's not a large Muslim

1539
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 19: population in Western Australia as compared to places like Sydney Melbourne.

1540
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 19: No one had ever heard of her. She was a

1541
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 19: twenty five year old. She was placed third on the ticket,

1542
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 19: the Labor ticket. So when you each state delivers a

1543
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 19: certain number of senators, the Labor Party out of Wa

1544
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 19: normally delivers too. And at the last election, which Anthony

1545
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 19: Albernezi won, she managed to pick up a spot even

1546
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 19: though she was third on the ticket, and that means

1547
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 19: she has a five year term, so four and a

1548
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 19: half years to go probably in the Senate, and no

1549
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 19: one had ever heard of her, so all of a sudden,

1550
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 19: Senator Fatima Payman is Anthony Albernesi's worst nightmare.

1551
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 2: And she now is is a twofold problem because she's

1552
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: threatened to do all sorts of things and after she

1553
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 2: crossed the house. But he looks weak by not dealing

1554
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 2: to her in the first place, doesn't he.

1555
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 19: In the first instance, he said, oh, you can't come

1556
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 19: to caucus next week. That was it, That was I think.

1557
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 19: Then he dragged it down to the lodge on Sunday

1558
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 19: figuratively not actually, and said, look, in fact, you're out

1559
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 19: of caucus full time now, and you've got to promise

1560
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 19: not to cross the floor. She wouldn't give that undertaking,

1561
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 19: And so now she is being duchess to go independent.

1562
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 19: The Greens would love to get their hands on her

1563
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 19: because that would increase their numbers in the Senate. She's

1564
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 19: right within her rights to do that. As a senator.

1565
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 19: She can walk away from the Labor Party. And now

1566
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 19: we've got this bloat called Glenn Drury, who is known

1567
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 19: as the preference Whisperer because we have preferential voting in

1568
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 19: this country. As quickly this guy goes around to all

1569
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 19: these little independents, he works a deal so they all

1570
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 19: preference each other and you low your primary votes, very low,

1571
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,440
Speaker 19: but you get in because you get all these preferences.

1572
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 19: If that happens, then Anthony Albanize has got a ruled

1573
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 19: numbers problem exactly.

1574
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 2: And so what's he going to do?

1575
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 19: Knowing nothing you can do now? And there are many

1576
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 19: within his own party who have apparently been speaking to her,

1577
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 19: some supportive, some not. There was a word bullying thrown

1578
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,560
Speaker 19: around a twenty five year old woman. She wears a

1579
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 19: he jab, she's a Muslim, and he can't do a thing.

1580
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 2: Jeez, okay, then you got your housing, by the way.

1581
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 2: A couple of real quick things. Speaking of Albanezi, he's

1582
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 2: not going to the NATO meeting in Washington. Is this

1583
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: because everyone calls him airbus elbow and he's sick of

1584
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 2: being called the airbus elbow. It would look really bad

1585
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 2: if he went to yet another overseas trip.

1586
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 19: Well, that's one of the theories. The other one is

1587
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 19: he's going to call an early election and so he

1588
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 19: wants to be back here traveling around the country telling

1589
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 19: people what a great job labor's doing. But it's a

1590
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 19: silly decision. I mean, a lot of people, me included

1591
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 19: criticized him for doing twenty three trips in his first

1592
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 19: year as Prime minister. But this NATO meeting when you think,

1593
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 19: when you think about it, we're not a member NATO.

1594
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 19: We'd be on the sidelines. But you could have a

1595
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 19: brand new British Prime minister by Friday, so Keiths Starmer

1596
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 19: so they're one of our biggest allies, were in aucust

1597
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 19: with us. That would be an opportunity to sit down

1598
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 19: as a labor colleague and talk to him. He should

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01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 19: be there. Got Franklin still.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me about housing because I read a very

1601
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 2: interesting piece the other day that the projections for next

1602
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 2: year as prices will continue to rise, continue to rise,

1603
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 2: continue to rise pretty much all over Australia, you're not

1604
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 2: building enough. Is how big an angst does that for

1605
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 2: your average Australian.

1606
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 19: Natief executive Andrew Whoever last week said it's the biggest

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01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 19: problem in the country. It's a supply problem and they've

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01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 19: done some numbers to suggest that if we want a

1609
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:37,879
Speaker 19: de cater for the current population growth and the immigration intake,

1610
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 19: we would need to build a house in this country

1611
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 19: every two minutes. Now, that equates the six hundred homes

1612
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 19: have built a day as of July one, a five

1613
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 19: year promise from Labor kicked in Mike, which was to

1614
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 19: build a million homes. We're not doing it, simply not happening,

1615
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 19: and we don't have the construction workers, we don't have

1616
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 19: the supply, and we don't have the planning permits being

1617
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 19: a great anted quickly enough by local councils, and so

1618
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 19: we have a big problem, and we're trying to bolt

1619
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 19: suburbs onto big places like Melbourne and Sydney. I went

1620
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 19: west yesterday to a suburb called Tarnat which had just

1621
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 19: been basically farmland turned into houses that all look the same,

1622
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 19: not a tree in sight, no soul, and that's where

1623
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 19: we're planking people. And we're not building enough of these joints.

1624
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 19: And so we have a real issue in this country

1625
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 19: and I'm just not quite sure not the opposition don't

1626
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 19: have an answer to decide it. By the way, one

1627
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,440
Speaker 19: of the things we've got to do, and it's unpalatable

1628
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 19: for politicians, is stop immigration for some period of time

1629
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 19: and let ourselves catch up. But no one's brave enough

1630
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 19: to do that.

1631
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 2: No interesting Also, on your vape laws, we're having that

1632
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 2: had the same debate at the same time last governor

1633
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 2: of this government, they sort of did a few things,

1634
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 2: but probably not what they should have, and everyone was saying, here,

1635
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 2: look at Australia, let's do what Australia did. And then

1636
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 2: the next thing I read the Greens back out of it,

1637
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 2: or they do some weird deal in the Senate and

1638
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 2: it's not turned out to be what they wanted to be.

1639
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 19: As of Monday, you're supposed to only be able to

1640
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 19: buy a vape, that's any vape from a pharmacy. As

1641
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 19: of September one, you'll have to have a prescription to

1642
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,759
Speaker 19: buy that vape. But up until September you can only

1643
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 19: go to a pharmacy, so a chemist and buy a vape.

1644
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 19: I went into a vape shop at Tarnique where I

1645
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 19: was yesterday, said that the woman what sort of apes

1646
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 19: she got? She said, what flavor do you want? As

1647
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 19: a smoke shop, not a chemist shop. And this is

1648
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 19: one woman in a shopping center out you know, twenty

1649
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 19: five kilometers west of Melbourne. I could have done that

1650
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 19: in any vape shop anywhere in Melbourne. And guess what

1651
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 19: the police say, Well, Victoria Police say this is a

1652
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 19: health problem, it's not a criminal problem. We're not going

1653
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 19: to police it. You can do it yourself. Bugger off,

1654
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 19: we're not doing it.

1655
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 2: Hey quickly. The live export thing, you're stopping it as

1656
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 2: of whenever it is twenty twenty eight. Has has that

1657
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 2: been a great debate or not really?

1658
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 19: Well, it should be, but it hasn't been. I mean

1659
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 19: the live export a sheep out of principally wa Is

1660
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 19: where they go from, has declined. Some estimates put it

1661
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 19: as declined by ninety percent. But there are Middle Eastern

1662
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 19: countries that don't have refrigeration these assets so that they

1663
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 19: can take meat that's already been butchered and frozen. So

1664
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 19: it is a big issue. It's still worth a couple

1665
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 19: of billion dollars in export trade, and it's going to

1666
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 19: be a problem for the government because the farmers make

1667
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 19: a lot of noise.

1668
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah mate, go well, catch up next week. Appreciate it

1669
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 2: very much. They're handing out. So that was the labor

1670
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 2: government who wanted to get rid of it, which they

1671
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 2: have so May twenty eight. As in twenty twenty eight,

1672
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 2: it stops people who lose our ee farmers get money.

1673
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 2: Coalition says they'll flip it back sixteen to two. The

1674
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 2: make Hosty Raference thirteen Away from nine. Mike two thousand

1675
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 2: and six took our nine year old out of school

1676
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 2: for six months express approval from the school. Trip was

1677
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,839
Speaker 2: three months touring Europe, three months touring Australia, countless museums,

1678
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 2: council's churches, exhibitions, experience, lots of culture and nature, et cetera.

1679
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 2: It's the old story. Our daughter's learned a huge amount forever.

1680
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 2: She continued with school, always excellent results, as did she

1681
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 2: with her bachelor at University biotechnology a's and a pluses,

1682
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 2: as she did with her masters with an A. Now

1683
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 2: she's working in a very good, well paid biotech job.

1684
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 2: I think there are kids on a pathway out. There

1685
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 2: are many. Any parent understands that there are kids who

1686
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 2: will struggle. There are kids who will do okay, There

1687
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 2: are kids who will do exceptionally are there are kids

1688
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 2: who are bright, who you could take out of school

1689
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 2: for eight of the nine years at school and they'd

1690
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: still pass exams and sort of. And that is the

1691
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 2: individuality of the story that never really gets captured in

1692
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 2: the averages. Speaking of technology, I've read this what turned

1693
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 2: out to be a fascinating piece yesterday and the BBC

1694
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: about the speed of Internet and what they're working on,

1695
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 2: and it involves the Hadron collider, which I'm endlessly fascinated with.

1696
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 2: But it was within the Hadron collider they set up.

1697
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 2: These two guys set up a data link between Switzerland

1698
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 2: and the Netherlands, which is where the storage site was.

1699
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 2: The storage site data storage sites and the Netherlands hadrons

1700
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: in Switzerland. Anyway, the link could reach speeds of eight

1701
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 2: hundred gigabytes a second, which is eleven thousand times your

1702
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 2: average broadband eleven thousand times, and so that was exciting.

1703
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 2: So they confirmed that using some special equipment lent to

1704
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 2: them by Nokia. But they're also out there at the moment,

1705
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 2: not the same guys, but different people looking to see

1706
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 2: how fast data can go. And they're reaching many many

1707
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 2: petabytes per second, which is three hundred million times faster

1708
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 2: than your broadband connection, three hundred million times faster. So

1709
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 2: fast they've got to the point now no one can

1710
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,679
Speaker 2: work out why you'd need it, which is quite cool

1711
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 2: to think about, isn't it. They've got other cables to

1712
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 2: data centers in the Netherlands. So the cable they were

1713
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 2: working out is all to do with light. So the

1714
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 2: cable length was sixteen one hundred and fifty k's from

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Speaker 2: Geneva to Paris, then to Brussels, then finally to Amsterdam.

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01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 2: So part of the challenge in reaching the eight hundred

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01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 2: gigs was in beaming pulses of light along the way. Now,

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01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 2: due to the distance, the power levels of that light decrease,

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01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 2: so you have to amplify it at different locations. But

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01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 2: they're working on speed. At some point we'll get to

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01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 2: a point where it's so good, so fast there will

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01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 2: never be another problem again, which is interesting, isn't it.

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01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 2: And then we come to the guy, thank goodness, guy

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01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 2: called Ken Griffin, who's the founder and CEO of Citadel.

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01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 2: He's remaining skeptical that artificial intelligence could soon make human

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01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 2: jobs obsolete. So once again I think I've been proven

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01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 2: to be right. An idea comes along, it gets a

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01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 2: little sticky, people get a former group and go, this

1729
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 2: is going to change the world. This is going to

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01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 2: tip it upside down. This is going to take over

1731
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 2: all the jobs in the world. This is going to

1732
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 2: be incredible. What's this space That idiot from SoftBank the

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01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: other day who said in ten years time, they're going

1734
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 2: to be ten thousand times smarter than it has already

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01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 2: and replaced all the jobs. That sort of madness, and

1736
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 2: then somebody else comes along. In this case it's Ken

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01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:45,759
Speaker 2: Griffin has a bit of a look at the evidence.

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01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 2: So far as he goes, some are convinced that within

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01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 2: three years, almost everything we do as a human will

1740
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 2: be done in one form or another by AI tools,

1741
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 2: he says, and I think he's one hundred percent right.

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01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 2: Machine learning tools do not have their limits. They do

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01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 2: not well. Listen to this. They do not do well

1744
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 2: in the world where regimes shift, and you think about

1745
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,799
Speaker 2: self driving cars don't do well when they hit snow

1746
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 2: because they've never hit snow. The terrain has changed. They

1747
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 2: don't know what to do. Of course, you can program

1748
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,600
Speaker 2: it for snow and you go, oh no, I'll just

1749
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 2: go program it for snow. Then something else will happen.

1750
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,719
Speaker 2: A sidewind will come along. I am dealt with the sidewind.

1751
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 2: Then you'll just pray and so it goes. So I

1752
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,919
Speaker 2: think he's probably onto something. Night away from nine.

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01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 1: All them Mike Costing, Breakfast with Fasts and news dogs EBB.

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01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 2: My temperatures and rarato are twenty two degrees low thirty

1755
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 2: four degrees high. Not at the moment, they're not at

1756
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 2: twenty two degrees high for the day. I have just checked.

1757
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 2: If you want to buy a sports team, I've got

1758
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 2: one for you. It's the Boston Celtics. They're on the market.

1759
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 2: Announced overnight. A company called Boston Basketball Partners LLC are

1760
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 2: the ownership group. They put it up for sale, which

1761
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 2: is a remarkable thing because they brought them back in

1762
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 2: two thousand and two for three hundred and sixty million dollars.

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01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 2: I'll come to their price tag in just a couple

1764
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 2: of moments. So remember three hundred and sixty million back

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01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 2: in two thousand and two. But the game has changed

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01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 2: since then. What is remarkable about this is that the

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01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics just won the NBA the other day. In fact,

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01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 2: I think it was their eighteenth or nineteenth title. I

1769
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 2: think it was their eighteenth title. Anyway, they were a

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01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 2: very successful team. Last team that I know that was

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01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 2: sold was the Washington what are they called? They work

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01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 2: called the Redskins Commanders, not not the Wizards. No, well

1773
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 2: they could have been the Wizards. There is a Wizards,

1774
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 2: and not it was the Commanders, Washington Commander's got sold. Yeah,

1775
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 2: the Redskins used to be called the Riskins. Can't say

1776
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 2: Ridskins anymore, Sam, stop it. They're the Washington Commanders. Is

1777
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: why do they change their name?

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01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 9: You Wouldiot get out?

1779
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 2: Stop it? And he's the young one anyway. They sold

1780
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 2: for six billion dollars and they're the worst team in

1781
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 2: football anyway. The Boston Celtics, which are the best team

1782
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 2: in basketball. They are for sale. They expected to be

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01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 2: completed by early next year. They want high sevens billion.

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01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 2: Good luck. Five minutes away from nine.

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01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 1: Trending now with the Chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy.

1786
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 2: All year round, Jonathan Pies and news character in it's

1787
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 2: played by a guy called Tom Walker. We've hit him

1788
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 2: on the program before. So this is the UK polling

1789
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 2: days close Thursday Friday, our time. He's done a recap

1790
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 2: of the last fourteen years of the Tories.

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Speaker 27: Fourteen years. Five prime ministers, seven chancellors, eight foreign secretaries,

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01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 27: thirteen culture secretaries, one of whom was Nadine Doris, a

1793
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 27: woman so stupid she thinks Channel four is a brand

1794
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:28,759
Speaker 27: of perfume. Eight home secretaries, including Grinning Exorcist Doll, Pretty Patel,

1795
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 27: Sajid Javid James, hilarious rape jokes, cleverly and far right

1796
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 27: pin up Suella Bravman Twice she sounat cut taxes on

1797
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 27: Champagne on the same day he cut funding to rebuild schools,

1798
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 27: and he wants to bring back national service. What else

1799
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 27: are they going to bring back? Grandstand spam on the

1800
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 27: National health snickers? Going back to Marathon, I look forward

1801
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 27: to voting these incompetent, hubristic grifters out, and I hope

1802
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 27: they spend a very long time in the wilderness and

1803
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 27: have a really good think about what they just did.

1804
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 2: Mike, if you listen to only one thing that you

1805
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 2: listened to Joe Rogan podcast with Terrence Howard, light speed

1806
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: Internet is nothing, you'll be blown away with what he says.

1807
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 2: I might take you up on that. I have been

1808
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 2: watching a little bit of Owning Manhattan, which is a

1809
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 2: new program on Netflix. It's reality television on real estate.

1810
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 2: I'm moderately disappointed, not completely disappointed, but moderately disappointed, to

1811
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 2: the point where I'm giving you a watchhit, but don't

1812
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 2: blame me. Warning you might enjoy it, you probably won't.

1813
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 2: There's enough housing in there to make you think, oh,

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01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 2: that's quite cool, but there's a lot of idiots in there.

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01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 2: Ryan sir Hant story, he's interesting. The rest of them marn't.

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01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 2: But that's my top tip for the day. If you're

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01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 2: a bit bored for this Wednesday, back tomorrow morning, six am,

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Speaker 2: Happy Days.

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