1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty unparalleled reach 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: and results. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: I'm the huddle with me this evening, Ali Jones of 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Red pr and Matt Heath, Hoduki's breakfast host. Hell are 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: you too? 6 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 3: Good day? 7 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So it's not Windy and Wellington, which means key 8 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: we rails explanation for why the fairy crash just bs? 9 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: What's going on that? 10 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 3: I don't know? 11 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 4: I heard you saying before that you think that they're 12 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 4: just ramming it into things to try and make their 13 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 4: point that they need to replace you one. You probably 14 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 4: need a bit more evidence than just a speculation on that. 15 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 4: I mean, how does your career go once you've rammed 16 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 4: a fairy into theory? 17 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: Is as good? My explanation is as good as it's 18 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: Wellington and Windy? Allie, what are you reckons going on here? 19 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: Well? 20 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 5: I think that's not a bad explanation, actually, Heath. I mean, 21 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 5: if you've got a crappy car, if you want to 22 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 5: get rid of it, just dig it a few times 23 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 5: and then you know the rest is straightforward. 24 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: Insurance job. 25 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 3: Is that what you think it's going on? 26 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 4: They could well be that takes a bit of guts 27 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 4: to ram a fury over your ideological beliefs into it. 28 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 4: If that's the case, then I've got a slight amount 29 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 4: of admiration for the ketna. 30 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: Just yeah, the bulls that's going on there, Hey, Ellie. 31 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: I would like my teachers. I'd like the teachers in 32 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: this country to have done level two maths. What about you? 33 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 5: I'd like the teachers in this country to have done 34 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 5: Level two English. I'd like the teachers in this country 35 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 5: to do level two on a number of things so 36 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 5: that they were proficient in them. I'm actually in agreement 37 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 5: with the Teaching Council here. I think that if you 38 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 5: force a level two NCAA Level two maths pass if 39 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 5: you like, then you need to do the same in 40 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 5: the other areas as well. I want my kids to 41 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 5: be able to do maths, but I also want them 42 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 5: to be able to communicate properly and understand the English language. 43 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So if we take it to this logical conclusion, 44 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: do you want to have level two for everything? Or 45 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: do you just or do you not? Yeah? Well that's high. 46 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 5: I did think about that, And look, I don't know 47 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 5: what a reasonable level of teacher ability is to teach 48 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 5: at a primary school level. I'm not a primary school teacher. 49 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 5: It's been some years since I was there myself, amazing, 50 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 5: So so look, I would like to hear from someone 51 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 5: as to what they think the reasonable level, you know, 52 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 5: across those subjects is. I can't answer that, Heather. 53 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you reckon? 54 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: Matt? 55 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: I think some people in the education sector have coalition 56 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 4: derangement syndrome. So anything that the government sees, even if 57 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 4: it's great and they normally agree with it, like teachers 58 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 4: need to be good at teaching, they'll disagree with it. 59 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 4: And you know what, all these people that say are 60 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 4: experts in education, are they the people that are currently 61 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 4: making the decisions? And is the current system that they've created, 62 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: because the system that we've got now doesn't seem to 63 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 4: be that great, doesn't. 64 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 2: No, that's a very good point. And you know, Ali, actually, 65 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: why would we I mean, why not have the most 66 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: skilled of most available and skilled people teaching the primary 67 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: school kids? Why not go for level two? 68 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 4: Yeah? 69 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 5: Okay, well if level yeah, but if level two is 70 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 5: the right level, you can't just unilaterally pluck a level 71 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 5: out of the air and go Yeah. That's the one 72 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 5: that I think is applicable. I don't know about that. 73 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 5: You don't know about that. I'd love to hear from 74 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 5: someone who does know about that. And of course we've 75 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 5: got to have the best people. But you know, we 76 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 5: all know people that like numbers, and do you want 77 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 5: that to be the measure As far as the personality 78 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 5: and diversity of the people teaching kids, I don't really. 79 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: Care about the personality and the diversity. 80 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 5: So I know, I want someone to be inspirational. I 81 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 5: want them to be able to communicate. Well, I want 82 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 5: them to be nice. 83 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: Taking you to Yeah, well, here's an argument for going 84 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 2: for level two, Matt. At the moment, I think you 85 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 2: only need something like ten credits at level one. That's 86 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: obviously not enough, so let's go for level two. 87 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Sure. 88 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: But that thing that you've got to have these amazing 89 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 4: teachers that do all the stuff, it's the dead poet 90 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: society thing. I never had a good teacher in the 91 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: entire time I was there that aspired me. 92 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: And look where you are. 93 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: I am in real butlish authors. I'm real brainy, real brainy. 94 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, how did you manage if you didn't have 95 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: good teachers? 96 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I had teachers that were that taught me, 97 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 4: But I didn't have anything with great personalities, particularly that 98 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: were inspirational and made me wanting to perform a dead 99 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 4: poet society. 100 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and scream up a DMA them. 101 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. Okay, guys, we'll take a break and 102 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: come back very shortly the Huddle. 103 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: With New Zealand souther Beast International Realty Exceptional Marketing for 104 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: every property. 105 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: Right, you're back with the HUD. I've got Matt Heath 106 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: and Alie Jones. Matt, I reckon. The Aussies have taken 107 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: luxe and slur pretty well, haven't they? 108 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, is it a slur? 109 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 4: Haven't we been just making jokes about Australians for absolutely ever? 110 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 4: And Joe, it's a joke, So people should stop pretending 111 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 4: like it's not a joke and that you're not allowed 112 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 4: to make jokes about Australians. It's a little brother making 113 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 4: a joke about his big brother. 114 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:30,559 Speaker 3: It's fine. 115 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: I've got a theory really that there reason got lots 116 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: of theories to that. I've got a theory that the 117 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: reason that we make jokes about Australians is because we're 118 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: actually jealous of them. Oh I hear that. I think 119 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: us richer than us, and they're more confident than us 120 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: and older than us, and their tanks better. 121 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 5: Do you really want that accent? I mean even just 122 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 5: the accent, it's just, oh, my dear god. No, I 123 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 5: think that he's right. This is almost you know, I 124 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 5: write a passage, you make jokes where competitive take the McKey, 125 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 5: So put that aside. I do think it was silly 126 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 5: and unnecessary removing today from that invitation. I mean, just 127 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 5: put the English in brackets, but it's a bit tone deaf, 128 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 5: and again it's created. 129 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: I don't even reckon you need to put the English 130 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: in brackets. I mean, everybody knows when you get an invitation, 131 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 2: the first few words be they kureder or a loha 132 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: or gooday, just mean hello. The last few words before 133 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: comma Paul Goldsmith mean by and come on outseiet or 134 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: you know what that means? Right he did? 135 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 5: No, I know you be consistent and as I agree 136 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 5: with Luxan, I think they need all the help that 137 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 5: they can get, and I think putting it in English 138 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 5: is absolutely the least you could do. What's really stupid 139 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 5: about this, Heather is I mean, this was an invitation 140 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 5: to an event, marking the start of Marin New Year. 141 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: I mean, could you be more tone deaf? 142 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's interesting that people think that you 143 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: do read invitations between governments, like it's not handed to 144 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 4: them by someone underneath them that tells on what's going on. 145 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: Like he's sitting there going what is this? Where is this? 146 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: Are we going to this? If you get another I 147 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: don't understand it. 148 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing you look at is who it's from, 149 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: what it's to, and what the date is in the 150 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: start time. 151 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: And it just didn't arrive on its own, like a 152 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: vacuuming you open it. 153 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 4: What's this that there would have been a calling, a discussion, 154 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 4: that will been an organization about it. 155 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: So I'm sure it's I think you're assuming. 156 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 5: I think you're assuming more actually than happened. I suspect 157 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 5: that it goes straight into a diary. I don't think 158 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 5: that the actual person that's been invited ever gets to 159 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 5: see the invitation. 160 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, well exactly, that's exactly what I'm saying. I don't 161 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 4: think it even. I don't think that they're making a 162 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 4: decision based on reading the invitation. 163 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: So I said just exactly what Ali said at the 164 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: start of the program, Matt, which was that he should 165 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: never have taken out his cause to all kinds of trouble. 166 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: He didn't need to. It was just a silly thing 167 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: to do. And I have been called woke as a result, 168 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: I have you, which I think we all knew that 169 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: I was woke. Though, what's your take on it? 170 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. 171 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think it's as big as an 172 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: issue as anyone's making it. But does seem like he's 173 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 4: making problems himself they didn't need to make to bloody. 174 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: Right, Alie. Seems like a bad idea to have walked 175 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: out of that council meeting today because by my calculations, 176 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: if Diane Calvin and Ben MacNulty and whoever in Wellington 177 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: had stayed there, they would have won the vote. 178 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 5: No, I don't know whether that's the case, hearing what 179 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 5: Diane said before, and the other thing that I found 180 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 5: interesting from what she said here, and this might be 181 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 5: in the standing orders for the Wellington City Council, it's 182 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 5: certainly not in the standing orders for christ Church. She 183 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 5: was saying that you either vote yes, no or walk out. Now, 184 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 5: what you can do in christ Church is you can 185 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 5: vote yes no, or you can abstain. Now, what I'd 186 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 5: really like to know from her is the abstention not 187 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: an is not an option in Wellington? And do you 188 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 5: have to walk out? So look until she answers that 189 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 5: I can't. I mean, on the face of it, it 190 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 5: looks childish walking out. But if it's actually part of 191 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 5: the standing orders that you have no choice, then well 192 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 5: they had no choice. But I'd like to know that 193 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 5: slam dunk, isn't it Matt. If you have a choice 194 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 5: of raised pedestri in crossing or not, the answer is 195 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 5: always not. 196 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely got to get rid of the terrible Absolutely, 197 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: But seem funny if you the options were yes, no, 198 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: or you actually have to physically walk out. 199 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: You don't just say I'm mistained, like. 200 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: We need to check this che because if you actually 201 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: have to stand up, and then it's strange we'll see 202 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: little knaves or. 203 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: Voice saying that information we're walking out, then that seems 204 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: like the system that they could probably streamline a little bit. 205 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: I agree with you guys. Listen, it was wonderful to 206 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: have you on. Thank you so much, Matt. 207 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 5: Matt. 208 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: I finished your book, did you I really enjoyed it? 209 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you for saying that. 210 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: Are you just constantly's in Oh yeah, I'm a pretty 211 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: chill guy, are you yeah? 212 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 3: Amazing, No, not at all. But I aspire to be 213 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: more children all of the. 214 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: Stuff that you because it's very handy, stuff like count 215 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: to ten before you have a tantrum at child, which 216 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: I could have done with last night, frankly, etcetera, etcetera. 217 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: You're still putting into practice. 218 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, it's it's an ideal to aim for. 219 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 4: You know, it's a north star and you if you 220 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: get there more often than you're not, they're not than 221 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 4: you're winning in life, I believe. 222 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: Oh thank you. Oh well, it's a really good book, 223 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 2: highly recommended. I'm going to buy it for the husband 224 00:08:58,559 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: because I'm trying to get him to count to ten 225 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 2: as well. 226 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 4: Say the name of it Heather Lifeless Punishing Thirteen Ways 227 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 4: to Love your life You've Got by. 228 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: My life Less Punishing Thirteen Ways to Love the Life 229 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: that You've Got by Matt Heath. I will just say 230 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: there are a lot of your friends who've written all 231 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: the little bits on it, like Jeremy Wells and Ursula 232 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,239 Speaker 2: Carlson and Karen. 233 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 4: Reid, and so would you do one would you do 234 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 4: a little line for the next edition. Yes, I the 235 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 4: sixth editions coming out soon and I get your recommendation 236 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: on it. 237 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: Look yeah, sure, I mean to be in the same 238 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: company as Kieren Read. I will thank you anyway. You go, well, 239 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: look after yourself. That's Matt Heath of Hodaki and obviously 240 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: Ali Jones of Freed Power Huddle this evening. 241 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 242 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 243 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.