1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: It appears the confidence is returning to the construction sector. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Seek as released its monthly job report and builders are 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: the big winner. Job ads for construction jump three point 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: four percent from November to December. Trades and engineering saw 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: increases of one point five to two point six percent 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: compared to last year. There are, wait for this, forty 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: three percent more job ads for builders. And Malcolm Fleming 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: is the CEO of Certified Builders in New Zealand and 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: joins here this morning and morning tea. 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: Malcolm, Good morning Andrew. 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: So these jobs are they sort of like one offs 12 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: or are they longer term employment contracts showing a longer 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: term security. 14 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: Look those numbers from secrearly encouraging and the whole they've 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: being reflected on what we're seeing as well. So part 16 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: of the membership benefit of these on Certified Builders is 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: that our members have access to employment agreements and across 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: January they are running a twenty percent up on what 19 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five averages were, and given that January 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: is a typically slow month, those numbers are ready encouraging. 21 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: Where are all the projects that these jobs are coming 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: from right. 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: Across the country. We've been talking about over the last 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: couple of years that the likes of the South Island 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: patches the North would have been sort of been the 26 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: hot points of construction. We're starting to see this generally 27 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: fly across more balanced across the country. 28 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: We heard some complaints last year, of course, that the 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: government stopped a lot of projects on their capex, on 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: their actual their assey its either fixing up hospitals or 31 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: building state houses and stuff like that, and that put 32 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: a lot of the construction industry and the builders out 33 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: of a job. Is that starting to pick up or not. 34 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was really unfortunate, the slow down or the 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 2: stoppage of projects that were already in train, and that 36 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: affected the industry really badly, about fifteen thousand jobs lost 37 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: over across that eighteen months. We're starting to see that 38 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: pick up now from central government projects coming onto market 39 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: and we saw snippets of that late last year with 40 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: school works, through defense housing, the Upper Norkland Live Imports, 41 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: naval base, and that's starting to sort of go on 42 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 2: through with hospitals and things. So we're starting to see 43 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: those signs. But in general in terms of homeowners as well, 44 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: they're starting to feel more confident about taking on projects 45 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: and that confidence hasn't been there for quite something. 46 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: And the other big story from this week is that 47 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: Fletcher has sold off their construction arm to a French 48 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: company called Vancy. Will will that affect building jobs or 49 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: will Vancy just take up what Fletchers was already doing. 50 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: Well because a really sad story. Were appointed to see 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: the loss of the features as a commercial contractor. They 52 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 2: haven't been in the vertical space for a while, that's 53 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: in terms of buildings, and I've been sorely missed. And 54 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: they had a bad run back in the twenty tens 55 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: with three main projects in particular. It didn't go well 56 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: for them, just as Pressington christ Church started too in 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: auckland Bay International Convention Center which is just open. So 58 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: the expertise has been sadly missed in that space. I've 59 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: been in the storm the horizontal doing the infrastructure. That 60 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 2: particular work will be picked will continue on just under 61 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: a new name. But really sweet to see a real 62 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: construction icon like Bletcher out of the commercial absolut instruction space. 63 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Malcolm, and I thank you so much for your 64 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: tell Malcolm Fleming. He is a certified build a CEO. 65 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: For more from early edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 66 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: to news talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 67 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio