WEBVTT - Penny Simmonds: Vocational Education Minister on Trade Training reform

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<v Speaker 2>Government appears to have answered calls from those in the

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<v Speaker 2>trade industry. An overhaul of apprenticeships and in training are

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<v Speaker 2>on the way, effectively letting experts run things their own way.

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<v Speaker 2>A new independent industry lead model will be introduced early

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<v Speaker 2>next year, taking responsibility awale from the failed to perking

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<v Speaker 2>a polytechnic kind of trouble, saying that to perking of Polytechnic,

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<v Speaker 2>there we go. Vocational Education Minister Penny Simmons joins me.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>So industries have been crying out for this, haven't they?

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<v Speaker 2>Why was the system not working?

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<v Speaker 3>Lookis industry have been crying out for it, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>been about getting industry back in the driver's seat. So

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't working because industry voice had been taken away.

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<v Speaker 3>The old industry training organizations had been centralized into the

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<v Speaker 3>Combined Polytechnics Entity Pooking, which took industry away from being

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<v Speaker 3>able to control the sort of training that went on

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<v Speaker 3>for their apprentices.

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<v Speaker 2>How big a job is the one you've got ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of you?

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<v Speaker 3>Then, look, it's quite big. It's taken quite a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>which has been frustrating for me and frustrating for industry.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're getting now to the sharp end of it

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<v Speaker 3>and we're looking at having a lot of things set

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<v Speaker 3>up by one January next year. So certainly the Industry

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<v Speaker 3>Skills Boards will be set up by one January next year.

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<v Speaker 3>The work based learning units, the old itos, they will

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<v Speaker 3>come out of the Taputina and they will sit for

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<v Speaker 3>a transition period with the Industry Skills Boards while industry

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<v Speaker 3>decides whether they want to have a private training provider

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<v Speaker 3>and industry training provider, and they can then set up

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<v Speaker 3>the private training provider if they wish to.

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<v Speaker 2>There's criticism that the plan lacks detailents a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>get done by January. What's your response to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, No, there is a lot of d tail behind it,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's about getting the legislation in place. So the

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<v Speaker 3>legislation will be introduced to the House soon that will

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<v Speaker 3>certainly have all the detail in it, and then there'll

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<v Speaker 3>be the period of the Select Committee where people will

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<v Speaker 3>be able to have a say in if they see

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<v Speaker 3>some of the detail that needs changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, have some sectors been putting their plans together already.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, certainly they have. Yes, I think there will be

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<v Speaker 3>some industries that will be ready straight away to set

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<v Speaker 3>up a private training provider as soon as they're able

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<v Speaker 3>to in the beginning of next year, So poking is.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of the picture. Now, are you confident that most importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>new apprentices are going to get the skills they need.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Look, taputing will be in the scene still until

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<v Speaker 3>the end of next year. We have to leave it

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<v Speaker 3>there to mop up a few things. But yes, Really

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<v Speaker 3>this is about industry having control. So industry will set

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<v Speaker 3>the standards. Industry will develop the qualifications. Industry will do

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<v Speaker 3>the endorsement of who can deliver programs to meet those qualifications.

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<v Speaker 3>They will then have the quality assurance role as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So industry every step of the way are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be in control of ensuring that apprentices are learning what

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<v Speaker 3>they need to learn for their industry. And it really

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<v Speaker 3>does then put the responsibility onto industry to list those

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<v Speaker 3>completion rates, because at the moment we have under fifty

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<v Speaker 3>percent completion rates for our apprentices and we only have

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<v Speaker 3>between ten and twenty percent of employers taking on apprentices.

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<v Speaker 3>So industry now will have control and will have the

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<v Speaker 3>responsibility of lifting those rates also.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent lots to keep you busy. Their Penny that is

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<v Speaker 2>a vocational educational minister. Sorry, what did I say, vocational

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<v Speaker 2>education minister. There we go Penny Simmons.

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