1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at b. 3 00:00:30,693 --> 00:00:32,533 Speaker 2: Twenty three to ten on News Talks, it'd be That's 4 00:00:32,533 --> 00:00:35,893 Speaker 2: Benny that songs called Cinnamon So Hot off supporting the 5 00:00:35,893 --> 00:00:39,293 Speaker 2: tours of global pop stars Olivia Rodrigo and Tate McCrae. 6 00:00:39,533 --> 00:00:41,733 Speaker 2: She's just released album number two. It's a nice little, 7 00:00:42,253 --> 00:00:42,893 Speaker 2: nice little. 8 00:00:42,693 --> 00:00:43,213 Speaker 3: Number, isn't it. 9 00:00:43,213 --> 00:00:43,373 Speaker 1: Hey? 10 00:00:43,573 --> 00:00:46,173 Speaker 3: Thanks V messages. Jack says, regarding your. 11 00:00:46,093 --> 00:00:49,093 Speaker 2: Comments on Michelin Star restaurants this morning, Jack, so true. 12 00:00:49,133 --> 00:00:52,533 Speaker 2: It is about the people and the moments and enjoying 13 00:00:52,533 --> 00:00:55,253 Speaker 2: great food together. Yeah, that's the thing about really good meals. 14 00:00:55,253 --> 00:00:59,293 Speaker 2: They're kind of the vehicle for great memories with friends 15 00:00:59,653 --> 00:01:01,653 Speaker 2: or family. Like that's that that they're kind of the 16 00:01:03,053 --> 00:01:06,813 Speaker 2: door or the realm through which you have those memories. 17 00:01:06,813 --> 00:01:07,973 Speaker 2: He thanks for that. 18 00:01:08,093 --> 00:01:09,653 Speaker 3: So ninety two ninety two If you want to send 19 00:01:09,733 --> 00:01:10,293 Speaker 3: us a message. 20 00:01:10,333 --> 00:01:13,413 Speaker 2: Francisca Rudkins, she's a big fan of Michelin Star restaurants. 21 00:01:14,293 --> 00:01:15,813 Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever been to one. 22 00:01:15,693 --> 00:01:18,053 Speaker 2: Really, no, never. Is it the sort of thing you 23 00:01:18,093 --> 00:01:20,333 Speaker 2: would if you if the Michelin starts. So they've got 24 00:01:20,333 --> 00:01:23,573 Speaker 2: the Michelin Star restaurants coming here. So would you look 25 00:01:23,573 --> 00:01:25,573 Speaker 2: at the list of Michelin Star restaurants and would that 26 00:01:25,613 --> 00:01:26,893 Speaker 2: affect that If I. 27 00:01:26,813 --> 00:01:28,853 Speaker 4: Was traveling and there was one place I'd really wanted 28 00:01:28,893 --> 00:01:30,133 Speaker 4: to go, then I would try and book. I mean, 29 00:01:30,173 --> 00:01:32,173 Speaker 4: obviously a lot of times you need to book into 30 00:01:32,213 --> 00:01:34,253 Speaker 4: these places months and months in advance, so I might 31 00:01:34,253 --> 00:01:36,053 Speaker 4: pick one, try and pick one place and do a 32 00:01:36,053 --> 00:01:38,773 Speaker 4: special meal. But I think when I'm traveling, it's often 33 00:01:38,813 --> 00:01:42,373 Speaker 4: more about the you're trying to find some. 34 00:01:44,733 --> 00:01:44,973 Speaker 3: Food. 35 00:01:44,973 --> 00:01:47,733 Speaker 4: You're just trying to find sort of quite authentic, affordable food, 36 00:01:47,893 --> 00:01:49,573 Speaker 4: to be honest with you, That's the way I travel. 37 00:01:49,613 --> 00:01:50,893 Speaker 3: But what about if it's in New Zealand. 38 00:01:51,173 --> 00:01:53,133 Speaker 4: I think it's fantastic for the our local chefs. I 39 00:01:53,133 --> 00:01:54,813 Speaker 4: think they're amazing. And if they're going to be recognized 40 00:01:54,813 --> 00:01:57,253 Speaker 4: on an international level and it brings more people into 41 00:01:57,693 --> 00:02:01,093 Speaker 4: into our restaurants and it gives them some you know, 42 00:02:01,213 --> 00:02:03,333 Speaker 4: could then I think it's great. I don't understand why 43 00:02:03,333 --> 00:02:04,893 Speaker 4: it costs six point three million to bring it here, 44 00:02:04,893 --> 00:02:05,453 Speaker 4: but never mind. 45 00:02:06,093 --> 00:02:09,013 Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like that'd be good to explore, Like 46 00:02:09,173 --> 00:02:11,573 Speaker 2: how do you get a job with the Michelin people? Like, 47 00:02:11,613 --> 00:02:13,253 Speaker 2: how can it be your job just to roll around 48 00:02:13,253 --> 00:02:14,973 Speaker 2: and do that. That seems like a nice little. 49 00:02:14,773 --> 00:02:18,453 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, without anyone knowing, without anyone knowing who 50 00:02:18,453 --> 00:02:20,053 Speaker 4: you are and harassing you or anything. 51 00:02:19,893 --> 00:02:20,133 Speaker 3: Right there. 52 00:02:20,253 --> 00:02:22,773 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, two films for us this week, so we're 53 00:02:22,773 --> 00:02:25,173 Speaker 2: going to start off with one that is showing in cinemas. 54 00:02:25,213 --> 00:02:26,613 Speaker 3: This is Bougonna. 55 00:02:28,053 --> 00:02:32,813 Speaker 4: Welcome to the headquarters of your Human Resistance. Where's my hair? 56 00:02:33,693 --> 00:02:37,253 Speaker 4: Your hair has been destroyed to prevent you from contacting 57 00:02:37,293 --> 00:02:41,933 Speaker 4: your ship? What ship? Your mother ship? 58 00:02:42,653 --> 00:02:43,453 Speaker 3: D day? 59 00:02:45,733 --> 00:02:48,293 Speaker 4: So have you a you a fan of yours? Lantimos, 60 00:02:48,533 --> 00:02:51,853 Speaker 4: the Greek author of the Greek filmmaker, Sorry, I don't 61 00:02:52,053 --> 00:02:55,533 Speaker 4: think the favorite Poor Things like a lot of people 62 00:02:55,573 --> 00:02:58,133 Speaker 4: watch Poor Things when it started, it came on to 63 00:02:58,213 --> 00:03:00,253 Speaker 4: streaming services. I think I might have even been on 64 00:03:00,253 --> 00:03:01,853 Speaker 4: TV and sit at one point, and most people I 65 00:03:01,893 --> 00:03:05,053 Speaker 4: know who started watching it said I couldn't finish it. 66 00:03:05,053 --> 00:03:09,293 Speaker 4: It isn't a quiet takee. He is a unique He's 67 00:03:09,333 --> 00:03:12,053 Speaker 4: an auteur as opposed to just a film direct so 68 00:03:12,093 --> 00:03:14,053 Speaker 4: you know, he's got his own vision in his own 69 00:03:14,093 --> 00:03:16,733 Speaker 4: way of telling stories, and he doesn't quite disive it 70 00:03:16,733 --> 00:03:19,773 Speaker 4: can be quite divisive. He likes to mix comedy and 71 00:03:19,853 --> 00:03:22,933 Speaker 4: horror and tragedy. He likes his actors to perform in 72 00:03:23,013 --> 00:03:27,013 Speaker 4: quite a dead pan way, in quite a detached manner, 73 00:03:27,053 --> 00:03:30,213 Speaker 4: and then there'll be these sudden moments of violence or absurdity. 74 00:03:31,013 --> 00:03:33,413 Speaker 4: Often it can be quite bleak, but he does. Look 75 00:03:33,613 --> 00:03:36,293 Speaker 4: he sort of depicts the human condition in society and 76 00:03:36,373 --> 00:03:39,533 Speaker 4: things in such a unique way. I'll always catch one 77 00:03:39,573 --> 00:03:41,493 Speaker 4: of his films. Some I love more like the ones 78 00:03:41,533 --> 00:03:44,533 Speaker 4: that he has co written written himself. I think a 79 00:03:44,613 --> 00:03:47,013 Speaker 4: really cohesive like Dog Tooth, The Killing of the Sacred 80 00:03:47,093 --> 00:03:48,813 Speaker 4: Deer and The Lobster. Huge fan of. 81 00:03:48,853 --> 00:03:49,813 Speaker 3: Oh I saw the Lobster. 82 00:03:50,013 --> 00:03:52,493 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, huge fan of. And then of course he 83 00:03:52,613 --> 00:03:54,613 Speaker 4: became very well like, yeah, no, this is the thing. 84 00:03:54,613 --> 00:03:57,013 Speaker 4: He's weird. So and then he became very well known 85 00:03:57,053 --> 00:03:58,933 Speaker 4: with The Favorite, which started Olivia Coleman and got all 86 00:03:58,973 --> 00:04:01,693 Speaker 4: the Oscar nominations. So that's sort of you know. Anyway, 87 00:04:01,813 --> 00:04:03,893 Speaker 4: So he is back with this new film once again 88 00:04:03,933 --> 00:04:07,613 Speaker 4: starring Emma Stone who appeared in Poor Thing, and I 89 00:04:07,653 --> 00:04:11,013 Speaker 4: think she is just really proving how fabulous she is 90 00:04:11,093 --> 00:04:13,653 Speaker 4: as an actress and what she can do in things 91 00:04:15,773 --> 00:04:18,213 Speaker 4: that One's another is it fil which is a little 92 00:04:18,253 --> 00:04:20,333 Speaker 4: bit quirky. Look it's looking at the division in the 93 00:04:20,373 --> 00:04:22,733 Speaker 4: world today. It's looking at kind of lone wolfs and 94 00:04:22,773 --> 00:04:26,493 Speaker 4: conspiracy theorists and the fact that we don't listen to 95 00:04:26,573 --> 00:04:29,133 Speaker 4: each other anymore, and there's kind of corporate greed and vole. 96 00:04:29,173 --> 00:04:34,013 Speaker 4: So we've got this lovely character, Teddy played by Jesse Plemmons, 97 00:04:34,133 --> 00:04:39,373 Speaker 4: and along with his disabled cousin Don, they believe that 98 00:04:39,693 --> 00:04:42,653 Speaker 4: this person, Michelle Fuller played by Emma Stone, the CEO 99 00:04:42,733 --> 00:04:48,213 Speaker 4: of a large pharmaceutical pharmaceutical company, is actually an alien 100 00:04:48,293 --> 00:04:51,933 Speaker 4: spy who has come to Earth to destroy humans, and 101 00:04:51,973 --> 00:04:54,013 Speaker 4: that she is going to be able to talk to 102 00:04:54,133 --> 00:04:56,853 Speaker 4: her emperor, to her boss and a couple of days 103 00:04:56,933 --> 00:05:00,573 Speaker 4: time when there is a lunar eclipse and they kidnap 104 00:05:00,693 --> 00:05:03,293 Speaker 4: her in order to hold her, you know, to ransom 105 00:05:03,333 --> 00:05:08,453 Speaker 4: that she convinces the emperor not to destroy humans. So 106 00:05:08,493 --> 00:05:10,693 Speaker 4: it's a little bit nutty. It's a little bit fatty. 107 00:05:10,813 --> 00:05:13,613 Speaker 4: He is a factory worker. He works in one of 108 00:05:13,653 --> 00:05:17,133 Speaker 4: her factories. It's clear there's been a lot of trauma 109 00:05:17,133 --> 00:05:19,253 Speaker 4: in his life. A cop turns up to apologize for 110 00:05:19,293 --> 00:05:21,373 Speaker 4: something he did to him in childhood and he's very 111 00:05:21,373 --> 00:05:26,413 Speaker 4: blaxed about it. So there's some clear signs that you know, 112 00:05:26,493 --> 00:05:28,853 Speaker 4: he's had a lot to deal with in his life. Michelle, 113 00:05:28,893 --> 00:05:31,613 Speaker 4: on the other hand, is great because at first she's 114 00:05:31,653 --> 00:05:34,533 Speaker 4: she's full on. She is cold and clinical, and she 115 00:05:34,733 --> 00:05:37,933 Speaker 4: is all about, you know, the company and making money. 116 00:05:38,173 --> 00:05:40,133 Speaker 4: And so she's said, you know that the company had 117 00:05:40,253 --> 00:05:42,933 Speaker 4: a bit of bad press about you know, that people 118 00:05:43,093 --> 00:05:45,733 Speaker 4: workouts and how horrible it was to work. So she says, 119 00:05:45,773 --> 00:05:48,213 Speaker 4: she starts this new memory. She says, it's okay, I 120 00:05:48,253 --> 00:05:50,333 Speaker 4: would like you all to finish work at five o'clock 121 00:05:51,093 --> 00:05:52,653 Speaker 4: if you think you've deserved it, you know. 122 00:05:52,733 --> 00:05:53,493 Speaker 3: Like, so she's great. 123 00:05:53,573 --> 00:05:55,933 Speaker 4: So she's really cold and cynical. When she's kidnapped, she 124 00:05:56,013 --> 00:05:58,573 Speaker 4: realizes that she doesn't know what they're talking about, right, 125 00:05:58,613 --> 00:06:00,333 Speaker 4: and then she realizes that maybe the best thing to 126 00:06:00,333 --> 00:06:01,813 Speaker 4: do is just to go along with these two and 127 00:06:01,813 --> 00:06:03,813 Speaker 4: that will help her escape and things, and off we go. 128 00:06:04,173 --> 00:06:06,053 Speaker 4: And the film is really clever because our sympathy is 129 00:06:06,133 --> 00:06:09,933 Speaker 4: kind of switch allegiances between these characters. You know, are 130 00:06:09,973 --> 00:06:12,693 Speaker 4: we kind of you know we with Michelle or maybe 131 00:06:12,693 --> 00:06:15,253 Speaker 4: we're deady now and ok so it's really interesting. But 132 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:17,813 Speaker 4: this film was all about the ending and that you 133 00:06:17,853 --> 00:06:20,413 Speaker 4: will either love it or you will hate it and 134 00:06:20,453 --> 00:06:23,053 Speaker 4: it is polarizing people an awful lot. I thought it 135 00:06:23,093 --> 00:06:26,173 Speaker 4: was brave and audacious and the film needed it. I 136 00:06:26,213 --> 00:06:30,773 Speaker 4: loved it. But people are some people are absolutely hating it. 137 00:06:31,133 --> 00:06:33,133 Speaker 4: So you have to go and sit through this quirky 138 00:06:33,173 --> 00:06:34,613 Speaker 4: thing and make up your own mind. 139 00:06:34,613 --> 00:06:37,533 Speaker 2: Sounds very interesting indeed, all right. So that is Bogonia 140 00:06:37,693 --> 00:06:40,773 Speaker 2: that's showing in cinemas at the moment on Netflix. This 141 00:06:40,813 --> 00:06:42,813 Speaker 2: is ballad of a small player. 142 00:06:45,293 --> 00:06:48,613 Speaker 1: Macau, gambling capital of the universe. 143 00:06:49,853 --> 00:06:55,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, card games can change your life in an insta. 144 00:06:56,973 --> 00:07:05,933 Speaker 3: My name is Doyle, Lord Doyle, and Lord Doyle sounds 145 00:07:05,933 --> 00:07:07,373 Speaker 3: awfully like Colin Farrell. 146 00:07:07,493 --> 00:07:09,453 Speaker 4: It is, That's exactly how it is. And I was 147 00:07:09,493 --> 00:07:11,693 Speaker 4: drawn to this film on Netflix because I went to 148 00:07:11,733 --> 00:07:13,973 Speaker 4: Macaw I think when I was a teenager in the 149 00:07:14,013 --> 00:07:14,893 Speaker 4: mid late eighties. 150 00:07:15,693 --> 00:07:15,933 Speaker 3: Yeah. 151 00:07:16,013 --> 00:07:17,853 Speaker 4: No, my parents like to take us to interesting places 152 00:07:17,893 --> 00:07:20,853 Speaker 4: and I can remember it very very clearly, this Portuguese 153 00:07:20,893 --> 00:07:24,973 Speaker 4: influence and the gambling and the small casinos and things, 154 00:07:25,013 --> 00:07:27,093 Speaker 4: and of course I wouldn't recognize it now because it 155 00:07:27,213 --> 00:07:30,093 Speaker 4: is the Vegas of Asia, and so I was intrigued 156 00:07:30,093 --> 00:07:32,133 Speaker 4: to watch this film. And we are set very much 157 00:07:32,173 --> 00:07:36,053 Speaker 4: within the casino world and it's both glamorous and not 158 00:07:36,093 --> 00:07:39,733 Speaker 4: so glamorous. And we see this. We see Macaw through 159 00:07:39,773 --> 00:07:43,213 Speaker 4: the eyes of Lord Doyle, who's a professional gambler. He's 160 00:07:43,293 --> 00:07:45,493 Speaker 4: hit rock bottom. He owes a lot of money to 161 00:07:45,893 --> 00:07:48,773 Speaker 4: a hotel, he's sang in and casinos and credit lenders 162 00:07:48,773 --> 00:07:51,773 Speaker 4: and things. But he believes that you can't keep losing. 163 00:07:51,813 --> 00:07:53,973 Speaker 4: At some point statistically he has to win, right So 164 00:07:54,013 --> 00:07:56,133 Speaker 4: if you can just get that win, he'll be okay 165 00:07:57,653 --> 00:08:00,333 Speaker 4: till the Swinton turns up as Betty, a character I 166 00:08:00,333 --> 00:08:03,453 Speaker 4: couldn't quite get my head around. She's quite cartoonish and 167 00:08:03,533 --> 00:08:06,013 Speaker 4: she's clearly chasing him for some debts that he owes 168 00:08:06,053 --> 00:08:08,093 Speaker 4: in the us K as well. And it's pretty obvious 169 00:08:08,133 --> 00:08:11,053 Speaker 4: from the beginning that Lord Doyle isn't quite who he 170 00:08:11,133 --> 00:08:14,333 Speaker 4: thinks and says he is. So this all sort of unrevels, 171 00:08:14,373 --> 00:08:16,133 Speaker 4: But it's really the story of a man who kind 172 00:08:16,133 --> 00:08:20,013 Speaker 4: of at rock bottom, sort of discovers he has a 173 00:08:20,053 --> 00:08:21,853 Speaker 4: conscience and wants to kind of do the right thing 174 00:08:21,893 --> 00:08:24,773 Speaker 4: and redeem himself somehow. I've got a bit lost in 175 00:08:24,773 --> 00:08:26,573 Speaker 4: this film, to be honest with you, I thought it 176 00:08:26,653 --> 00:08:30,533 Speaker 4: was a little overwrought. It's very stylized visually. I've got 177 00:08:30,533 --> 00:08:34,213 Speaker 4: a bit sick of just seeing Colin Farrell sweating a lot, 178 00:08:34,413 --> 00:08:36,173 Speaker 4: you know, you know, it was just it all just 179 00:08:36,213 --> 00:08:38,333 Speaker 4: felt like everything had just been pushed, and I think 180 00:08:38,333 --> 00:08:39,733 Speaker 4: that's what it's supposed to do. I think they're trying 181 00:08:39,733 --> 00:08:40,453 Speaker 4: to push everything up. 182 00:08:40,453 --> 00:08:42,373 Speaker 3: But he's a lost soul. 183 00:08:42,733 --> 00:08:44,853 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I just didn't really care too much for him. 184 00:08:45,093 --> 00:08:47,653 Speaker 3: Very good. That is Ballad of a Small Player. So 185 00:08:47,653 --> 00:08:49,493 Speaker 3: that one's on Netflix, Bogonia is. 186 00:08:49,413 --> 00:08:51,893 Speaker 2: In cinemas now, and all the details for those films 187 00:08:51,893 --> 00:08:52,813 Speaker 2: are going to be on the News Talks. 188 00:08:52,853 --> 00:08:57,173 Speaker 1: He'd be website for more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. 189 00:08:57,373 --> 00:09:00,573 Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talks he'd be from nine am Saturday, 190 00:09:00,813 --> 00:09:02,853 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.