1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: D day tomorrow for the landlords of the country's five 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five thousand rental properties. From tomorrow, all 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: rental properties must meet the government's Healthy Home Standards, which 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: include rules around heating, insulation, ventilation, draft stopping, et cetera. 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Matt Ball as the advocacy manager at the Property Investors Federation. 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: Good morning, Matt, Good morning, Ryan, how are you good? 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: Thank you? Now, when I say all rental properties, this 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: doesn't well, I'm assuming still doesn't include cayeing or order right, 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: all of their homes don't have to be up to 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: scratch or does that include them too? 11 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: I thought they had to be up to date last year, 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: but I may be wrong. 13 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'd like to see some numbers on how 14 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: well that's coming for them. 15 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. 16 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, for the rest of the private landlords. So, Matt, 17 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: do you think most are up to standard already? 18 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: It's interesting, Ryan, So I would have said yesterday a 19 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: year that most were up to standard, but there was 20 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: some interesting reporting out yesterdays that said maybe quite a 21 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: few more than I thought. 22 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: Aren't as an like close to eighty percent. 23 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. I would have thought. I would 24 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: have thought in the high eighties would have been through 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: this by now. I mean there's been plenty. 26 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: Of notice, right, And this sample that you're talking about, 27 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: one thousand random rental properties in the last two months, 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: found only twenty three percent were fully compliant. 29 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's quite a low number. When you look at 30 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: the numbers in detail, it seems like there are five 31 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: different standards, right, So a lot of landlords are compliant 32 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: with it's one or two or three of the standards, 33 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: but there might miss out on only one. So apparently 34 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: draft stopping only fifty percent of landlords up to speed 35 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: on that one, and that that is the reason for 36 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: the low compliance rate. So there's still a lot more 37 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: heaters in houses, there's a lot more insulation, there's a 38 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: lot more moisture barriers, all that sort of stuff. So 39 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: homes are definitely drier and warmer, and we see that 40 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: in the census data. But yeah, there's still a few 41 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: people who do need to fully. 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: Comply, okay, and what happens to them if they don't? 43 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: They can the tenants can go to the make a complaint, 44 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: They can potentially get a fine, but presumably there's a 45 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: period of discussion that could happen between that. 46 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, the recommended approach in this is, you know, if 47 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: you're a tenant and your home's not quite up to scratch, 48 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 2: have a chat with your landlord and see if they'll 49 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 2: get the work fixed, and then if they won't, that's 50 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: when you can start taking action through the tenancy tribunal. 51 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of variation around the country. 52 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: For example, and this is the extreme, but I've seen 53 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: homes where it's definitely not up to scratch, but the 54 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: tenant is living in it. They're very happy because they 55 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: get a cheap rent, and the landlord's happy because the 56 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: tenant's happy. So both parties will just keep it quiet. 57 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: There'll be plenty of that going on around the country, 58 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: but by and large, I think most landlords will get 59 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: things fixed if the tenant asks them to do it. 60 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: Really they should do it proactively straight away. 61 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: Matt Appreciate Times Wanting Matt Bull from the Property Investors Federation. 62 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 2: For more Family Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live to 63 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: news talks. 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