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Speaker 1: Heller du for see Alan nineteen ninet two is the text

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Speaker 1: umber You're welcome to weigh in on that, and we

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Speaker 1: will get into it around about five ten or thereabouts. Now,

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Speaker 1: new migrants are going to have to pay a lot

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Speaker 1: more to come here. From October one, prices for new

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Speaker 1: visas are set to skyrocket. The price of a skilled

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Speaker 1: residence visa is going to rise more than two thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: It's about four thousand, three hundred at the moment, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be six thousand, five hundred. Work visas will

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Speaker 1: cost about double the current price, and applicants in the

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Speaker 1: investa plus category will have to pay about twenty seven

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Speaker 1: and a half thousand dollars for a visa, which is

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Speaker 1: more than triple what they pay at the moment. Arouney

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Speaker 1: Madingra is the chair of the New Zealand Association for

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Speaker 1: Migration and Investment and with us Now, hey, Kyoto, is

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Speaker 1: this going to put off any migrants from coming here?

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Speaker 2: It possibly will. I mean what I say is that

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Speaker 2: we kind of use this, as you know, across all

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Speaker 2: the categories. We will see different effects across different categories

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Speaker 2: of visas. For example, if New Zealand keeps offering what

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Speaker 2: we offer for students studying master's courses here, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: expect that we would see a drop in interest for

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Speaker 2: that piece. But for the other categories, say carpenters or

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Speaker 2: tilers that actually have no residence pathways, why would they

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Speaker 2: even bother coming to New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so for anybody who actually has the possibility of

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Speaker 1: becoming a resident and therefore becoming a citizen, this is

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Speaker 1: absolutely not going to put them off fair.

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Speaker 2: I mean at will. There's a lot of thinking that

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Speaker 2: needs to happen, and when employers that bring people into

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Speaker 2: the country, they will now have to budget for a

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Speaker 2: lot more. And one of the things that I quite

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Speaker 2: say blatantly is I understand that the government's trying to

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Speaker 2: align this with Australia, but the reality is we are

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Speaker 2: not Australia. Economy is not the same and people have

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Speaker 2: different motivations to come here.

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Speaker 1: Is it a bad thing, Arouma if we actually have

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Speaker 1: some migrants who are dissuaded from coming here, because frankly

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Speaker 1: we're running hot at the moment on.

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Speaker 2: This, yeah, I think it is. We have to be

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Speaker 2: very careful. It has a potential of really being detrimental

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Speaker 2: to the New Zealand immigration system and in how it

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Speaker 2: supplements our workforce. When we are increasing these fees, we

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Speaker 2: have to give people something in return. With the current

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Speaker 2: situation with operationalizing with immigration New Zealand, inconsistent decision making,

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Speaker 2: the time it takes and then to increase the fees

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Speaker 2: from top is a disaster waiting to happen, are we actually?

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Speaker 1: I mean, the argument the government's making at the moment

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Speaker 1: is that these fees will put us on power the

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Speaker 1: Aussies and the UK. Is that right?

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Speaker 2: It will? But I think what I say to that

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Speaker 2: is that we are not the UK and we are

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Speaker 2: not Australia. We cannot compare apples to apples, and if

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Speaker 2: we are going to put ourselves in that position, then

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of other factors that need

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Speaker 2: to be taken into account.

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Speaker 1: We are I mean, can I just say though, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're making it sound like if we put the stuff in,

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Speaker 1: nobody's going to want to come here. The fact is

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Speaker 1: we are a very attractive destination. They will still.

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Speaker 2: Under come in. I mean, people obviously have motivations and

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Speaker 2: like I said, if you look at a student visa

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter how much you increase the feast, because they

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Speaker 2: get so much for doing a master's here, they're still

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Speaker 2: going to be queues outside of New Zealand. When you

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Speaker 2: look at other visa categories, like there's partners that have

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Speaker 2: people here, this is going to hit the pocket. And

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Speaker 2: then you have those employers that are bringing workers from overseas,

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Speaker 2: They're going to have to pay a lot more. So

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Speaker 2: if we are increasing the fees, we have to get

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Speaker 2: our immigration processing these visas consistently and in a timely manner.

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Speaker 2: We have to give a better customer service.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you're charging more, you have to make sure

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Speaker 1: that the services improved, right.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. You can't expect someone to wait four

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Speaker 2: months for a visa.

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Speaker 1: No fair enough? What's the UK service?

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Speaker 2: Like, I mean, the thing is that UK service? I

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Speaker 2: mean they've got fast priority QUS and I don't really

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Speaker 2: operate in that space. But it's not apples to apples.

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Speaker 2: All I'm saying is the FEESA is going to increase

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Speaker 2: from the first of October. Let's now give people more

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Speaker 2: incentives with a brilliant customer service, even make it better then. Currently,

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Speaker 2: operationalization within immigration is a bit of a mess and

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Speaker 2: it has to be rectified.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a fair point. Hey a Runama, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you perspective. That's a Runamadngra, chair of

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Speaker 1: the New Zealand Association for Migration and Investment.

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