1 00:00:06,707 --> 00:00:10,587 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,747 --> 00:00:11,787 Speaker 1: from News Talk ZEDB. 3 00:00:12,827 --> 00:00:14,947 Speaker 2: Around this time every Sunday, we get the chance to 4 00:00:15,027 --> 00:00:16,267 Speaker 2: chat to James mcconey. 5 00:00:16,307 --> 00:00:20,067 Speaker 3: Hello mate, good a poney. How are you. I hope 6 00:00:20,107 --> 00:00:21,107 Speaker 3: you've had a good weekend. 7 00:00:21,667 --> 00:00:23,707 Speaker 2: I've had a great weekend. Actually, I'm looking forward to 8 00:00:23,787 --> 00:00:31,227 Speaker 2: next weekend very much. With the Super Rugby semi finals, Blues, Brumbies, Hurricanes, Chiefs. 9 00:00:31,547 --> 00:00:34,267 Speaker 2: It feels like the top four are there. How are 10 00:00:34,267 --> 00:00:35,547 Speaker 2: you feeling about next weekend? 11 00:00:36,867 --> 00:00:41,267 Speaker 3: Not confident at all. The Hurricanes still look like the 12 00:00:41,307 --> 00:00:44,627 Speaker 3: best team. But it's one of those things where I 13 00:00:44,667 --> 00:00:46,907 Speaker 3: think so. I think the Hurricanes are the favorites, doing 14 00:00:46,947 --> 00:00:50,227 Speaker 3: the whole thing, but it could be decided by something 15 00:00:50,267 --> 00:00:54,307 Speaker 3: like discipline and refereeing interpretations because a lot of those 16 00:00:54,347 --> 00:00:57,347 Speaker 3: games I've watched, the close games, it's just been a 17 00:00:57,387 --> 00:01:00,227 Speaker 3: couple of calls they've gone me either way could have 18 00:01:00,267 --> 00:01:05,027 Speaker 3: been a completely different story. And even last night Jacob 19 00:01:05,427 --> 00:01:08,747 Speaker 3: ratchamtavut Akins was taken out in the air, knocked the 20 00:01:08,787 --> 00:01:13,027 Speaker 3: ball on, hangs guard and said play on. The Brummies 21 00:01:13,067 --> 00:01:15,627 Speaker 3: kicked the ball wide and Andy Knullerhead controls the ball 22 00:01:15,707 --> 00:01:18,867 Speaker 3: legs are darn those are ahead scores a try massive 23 00:01:18,907 --> 00:01:19,467 Speaker 3: turning point. 24 00:01:21,067 --> 00:01:23,307 Speaker 2: Are you doing that thing? Just back to when you 25 00:01:23,347 --> 00:01:25,387 Speaker 2: said the Hurricanes are favorites. Are you doing that kind 26 00:01:25,387 --> 00:01:28,987 Speaker 2: of reverse psychology thing? Is that what you're you're doing here? 27 00:01:29,787 --> 00:01:31,427 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to be putting a lot of money 28 00:01:31,467 --> 00:01:33,627 Speaker 3: on the Hurricanes. It's the only way I'll get any 29 00:01:33,627 --> 00:01:37,787 Speaker 3: pleasure out of that game. I'm in a world of pain, poney, 30 00:01:37,827 --> 00:01:40,067 Speaker 3: because the Chiefs did look good on Friday night. 31 00:01:40,227 --> 00:01:42,347 Speaker 2: They did, No, they did, they did. 32 00:01:43,227 --> 00:01:45,827 Speaker 3: Yeah, the first time we've picked the team a full 33 00:01:45,867 --> 00:01:48,187 Speaker 3: strength team in a long while. In fact, we're trying 34 00:01:48,187 --> 00:01:50,307 Speaker 3: to work out who is a full strength and I 35 00:01:50,347 --> 00:01:53,867 Speaker 3: think Jacobson at seven makes sense. He's a nullifier. He's 36 00:01:53,947 --> 00:01:57,427 Speaker 3: a thwar so he's a defender. That's his strength. And 37 00:01:57,467 --> 00:02:00,507 Speaker 3: then of course Summer Penny Female comes out. He's an assassin, 38 00:02:00,947 --> 00:02:04,547 Speaker 3: a sniper if you like, and so Wallace A. Titi's 39 00:02:04,587 --> 00:02:06,827 Speaker 3: been the big success story. But when I look at 40 00:02:06,827 --> 00:02:08,747 Speaker 3: the Hurricanes and I just go, well, you know what, 41 00:02:10,227 --> 00:02:13,187 Speaker 3: perhaps do see Caifi on the on any given day 42 00:02:13,187 --> 00:02:15,267 Speaker 3: would be their best player, and he's starting on the bench. 43 00:02:16,027 --> 00:02:20,067 Speaker 3: So there's no way can say I think that the 44 00:02:20,147 --> 00:02:23,547 Speaker 3: Hurricanes aren't the favorites. I've just got too many weapons 45 00:02:24,067 --> 00:02:25,787 Speaker 3: and even their benches class. 46 00:02:26,147 --> 00:02:28,547 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think it'll be a great game. In fact, 47 00:02:28,587 --> 00:02:31,267 Speaker 2: both will be. So yeah, let's put that off to 48 00:02:31,307 --> 00:02:33,187 Speaker 2: one side until we can actually talk about it in 49 00:02:33,467 --> 00:02:36,147 Speaker 2: specific fashion next weekend. But have you been watching a 50 00:02:36,147 --> 00:02:37,707 Speaker 2: bit of grassroots rug being Hamilton? 51 00:02:38,667 --> 00:02:41,187 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have. I've been down there. I watched some 52 00:02:41,387 --> 00:02:44,747 Speaker 3: Paul's second fifteen place and Peter second fifteen. Great game, 53 00:02:44,827 --> 00:02:48,667 Speaker 3: beautiful weather, twenty degrees I think down in Mulu Land 54 00:02:48,747 --> 00:02:52,827 Speaker 3: yesterday there was some Paul's got up in that game, 55 00:02:53,307 --> 00:02:56,947 Speaker 3: and then I went over to Pudongia, went towards the mountain, 56 00:02:57,427 --> 00:03:01,507 Speaker 3: the Magic Mountain of Podogia, and watched the Parongia Colts 57 00:03:02,547 --> 00:03:06,707 Speaker 3: play Hamilton Old Boys Cults again beautiful weather. Of course, 58 00:03:06,747 --> 00:03:10,627 Speaker 3: it was just an absolute scorcher. But that game was epic, 59 00:03:10,667 --> 00:03:13,547 Speaker 3: a cliffhanger one of the final seconds that tried to 60 00:03:13,667 --> 00:03:18,147 Speaker 3: Perongia to win it. The lead changed hands about four 61 00:03:18,227 --> 00:03:21,227 Speaker 3: or five times in the last quarter. It was crazy. 62 00:03:21,667 --> 00:03:24,947 Speaker 3: So yeah, grassroots for the I reckon they were probably 63 00:03:27,507 --> 00:03:33,027 Speaker 3: maybe fifteen hundred people there. I'll not understanding, understanding really good. Yeah, 64 00:03:33,147 --> 00:03:35,827 Speaker 3: and this is and that was even before the seniors 65 00:03:35,827 --> 00:03:38,187 Speaker 3: had come on, so this was like on one ground 66 00:03:38,227 --> 00:03:42,827 Speaker 3: there was the Hinuetta, the Men of Stone who come 67 00:03:42,867 --> 00:03:45,867 Speaker 3: in and it's a big rivalry between those lower level clubs. 68 00:03:46,187 --> 00:03:49,667 Speaker 3: So yeah, this is club footy is still alive and 69 00:03:49,707 --> 00:03:51,907 Speaker 3: well and you need I need to take my mate 70 00:03:51,947 --> 00:03:55,387 Speaker 3: Mark Robinson down to see this. It's it's just incredible 71 00:03:55,427 --> 00:03:55,747 Speaker 3: to see. 72 00:03:56,307 --> 00:03:58,987 Speaker 2: It's brilliant stuff. Hey, the Warriors were good last night, 73 00:03:59,027 --> 00:04:00,867 Speaker 2: went thy did you get did you catch the Warriors? 74 00:04:01,827 --> 00:04:05,627 Speaker 3: Oh? Did I catch the Warriors? I mean, look, the 75 00:04:05,667 --> 00:04:09,027 Speaker 3: bandwagon has been into the shop, it's got a new 76 00:04:09,067 --> 00:04:13,387 Speaker 3: whaft and it's back on track, poney, Because that is 77 00:04:13,907 --> 00:04:16,187 Speaker 3: it's fully f it's ready. Ever I get on board 78 00:04:16,547 --> 00:04:20,587 Speaker 3: because the Wars suffocated the Cowboys and we needed to 79 00:04:20,587 --> 00:04:23,027 Speaker 3: see one of those games where the Warriors bossed the 80 00:04:23,187 --> 00:04:26,307 Speaker 3: entire game. Shout out to Adam Pompey for kicking six 81 00:04:26,347 --> 00:04:29,227 Speaker 3: from seven off the tee. I mean that was just 82 00:04:29,307 --> 00:04:34,227 Speaker 3: incredible as well. But and Dlan wytenis alesick for something 83 00:04:34,227 --> 00:04:36,027 Speaker 3: outrageous skill. Did you see that, Pony? 84 00:04:36,267 --> 00:04:40,507 Speaker 2: Oh incredible just I mean yeah, yeah, I think we 85 00:04:40,587 --> 00:04:43,227 Speaker 2: get used to Dylan lads, I said earlier in the hour. 86 00:04:43,227 --> 00:04:45,467 Speaker 2: We get used to him doing outrageous things in a 87 00:04:45,547 --> 00:04:49,467 Speaker 2: try scoring your scenario, but the way he just battered 88 00:04:49,467 --> 00:04:53,067 Speaker 2: that back, you know, I just just tremendous stuff to watch. 89 00:04:53,787 --> 00:04:57,467 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the assist of the season. Go on YouTube, 90 00:04:57,467 --> 00:04:59,667 Speaker 3: will have the highlights. Sky Sport. Now, I'll have the highlights. 91 00:04:59,667 --> 00:05:02,187 Speaker 3: But it doesn't we can't do it justice. The ball 92 00:05:02,267 --> 00:05:05,427 Speaker 3: was basically out and dead in goal, and he jumps 93 00:05:05,667 --> 00:05:08,507 Speaker 3: towards the CA camera as well. I might add a 94 00:05:08,547 --> 00:05:11,667 Speaker 3: big camera and manages to miss that, but back the 95 00:05:11,667 --> 00:05:14,147 Speaker 3: ball back for a try. But the Harves need to 96 00:05:14,187 --> 00:05:17,307 Speaker 3: be talked about. Piney. We started the season with the 97 00:05:17,427 --> 00:05:21,027 Speaker 3: Johnson Metcalf combo, who we thought was really elite, and 98 00:05:21,067 --> 00:05:23,987 Speaker 3: now I'm looking at Chanel, Harris Tavita and the Mighty 99 00:05:24,067 --> 00:05:28,227 Speaker 3: Martin and thinking, I really like this combo. You've got, 100 00:05:28,347 --> 00:05:32,107 Speaker 3: you know, Chanelle number six, who is hat you know, 101 00:05:32,187 --> 00:05:35,267 Speaker 3: so you've got that the brutality that he brings, but 102 00:05:35,307 --> 00:05:38,227 Speaker 3: also savvy. And then to Mighty Martin, he just likes 103 00:05:38,227 --> 00:05:40,987 Speaker 3: to try things. He's a you know, he's a risk taker, 104 00:05:41,067 --> 00:05:44,427 Speaker 3: but he's got some silky skills and when given the keys, 105 00:05:44,587 --> 00:05:48,507 Speaker 3: can do something like that which has dominate a top team. 106 00:05:48,627 --> 00:05:50,627 Speaker 3: So I don't know what you thought, but I thought 107 00:05:50,627 --> 00:05:53,107 Speaker 3: that combo is excellent the past few games. 108 00:05:53,267 --> 00:05:55,027 Speaker 2: I thought exactly the same and I think it makes 109 00:05:55,067 --> 00:05:57,347 Speaker 2: It makes for a really interesting discussion when Seawan Johnson 110 00:05:57,427 --> 00:05:59,907 Speaker 2: is foot again, and I guess it's not up to 111 00:05:59,987 --> 00:06:02,187 Speaker 2: us to make that decision, but it's a nice one 112 00:06:02,227 --> 00:06:03,387 Speaker 2: for Andrew Webs that have to. 113 00:06:03,347 --> 00:06:06,667 Speaker 3: Make true true. Piney. Sorry to interrupt, but I say, 114 00:06:06,987 --> 00:06:09,427 Speaker 3: before we move on, what about that ref. I don't 115 00:06:09,467 --> 00:06:13,867 Speaker 3: often say this on Sundays, but I'm in love. I 116 00:06:13,907 --> 00:06:16,387 Speaker 3: guarantee the Warriors will never see him again. He gave 117 00:06:16,467 --> 00:06:19,267 Speaker 3: us so many calls and the NRL are probably going 118 00:06:19,347 --> 00:06:23,947 Speaker 3: to put him in witness protection in the Northern Territory. Ziggy, 119 00:06:24,307 --> 00:06:27,667 Speaker 3: Saska and Damski, thank you. I love you. I'm going 120 00:06:27,747 --> 00:06:29,387 Speaker 3: to miss you. We will never see you ref and 121 00:06:29,467 --> 00:06:32,787 Speaker 3: Warrior's game again. But what you did last night was incredible. 122 00:06:32,947 --> 00:06:34,787 Speaker 3: Just being fair for once. 123 00:06:35,427 --> 00:06:38,667 Speaker 2: One of the all time great names of officialdom as well. 124 00:06:38,987 --> 00:06:42,427 Speaker 2: To be fair, Hi, just on the French Open arm 125 00:06:42,827 --> 00:06:45,667 Speaker 2: and tennis. If we can change tech to the tennis, 126 00:06:46,227 --> 00:06:50,627 Speaker 2: is there a changing of the guard happening Novak Djokovic 127 00:06:50,747 --> 00:06:53,507 Speaker 2: is obviously he pulled out a bit earlier in this tournament, 128 00:06:53,547 --> 00:06:55,267 Speaker 2: didn't he? But are we seeing a changing of the 129 00:06:55,307 --> 00:06:56,507 Speaker 2: guard now eventually? 130 00:06:57,747 --> 00:07:00,187 Speaker 3: I think so. It's kind of weird how Novak Djokovic 131 00:07:00,267 --> 00:07:02,667 Speaker 3: has had a knee operation around the same time as 132 00:07:02,707 --> 00:07:07,147 Speaker 3: I think better I had a big operation with Nadal. 133 00:07:07,587 --> 00:07:10,867 Speaker 3: He's thirty seven. So if you think of Carlos al 134 00:07:10,907 --> 00:07:15,667 Speaker 3: Karez's in the final against Alexandersberv, al Karez is twenty one. 135 00:07:16,227 --> 00:07:20,107 Speaker 3: So when Novo Djokovic played its first professional game in 136 00:07:20,227 --> 00:07:24,307 Speaker 3: January two thousand and three, Alcarez hadn't been born. So 137 00:07:24,627 --> 00:07:28,547 Speaker 3: this is how big an age gap we're talking. You know, 138 00:07:28,987 --> 00:07:31,267 Speaker 3: it's the kind of age gap where people say, oh, no, 139 00:07:31,707 --> 00:07:34,627 Speaker 3: that's a bit weird, but this thing is a couple. 140 00:07:35,027 --> 00:07:38,907 Speaker 3: But this is the one where I reckon that it 141 00:07:39,027 --> 00:07:41,587 Speaker 3: is the changing of the guard, and you can see 142 00:07:41,587 --> 00:07:46,587 Speaker 3: it now. Al Karez, he's the youngest player to have 143 00:07:46,667 --> 00:07:51,427 Speaker 3: reached a Grand Slam final on three different surfaces. I 144 00:07:51,587 --> 00:07:56,947 Speaker 3: think he'll win overnight. It's just whether he's had a 145 00:07:56,947 --> 00:07:59,147 Speaker 3: few speed wobbles coming into the tournament, but he has 146 00:07:59,187 --> 00:08:03,947 Speaker 3: beaten Sits, a pass and singer on his way to 147 00:08:04,107 --> 00:08:07,467 Speaker 3: the final. So yeah, watch this space. Could he actually 148 00:08:07,467 --> 00:08:10,147 Speaker 3: just become a goat? Are we witnessing someone who'll get 149 00:08:10,587 --> 00:08:14,747 Speaker 3: a full you know, fifteen years perhaps of clear ea 150 00:08:15,027 --> 00:08:17,427 Speaker 3: with I know some good rivals, but he just looks 151 00:08:17,467 --> 00:08:17,907 Speaker 3: that good. 152 00:08:18,667 --> 00:08:22,347 Speaker 2: And there's probably someone about to be born who you know, 153 00:08:22,467 --> 00:08:24,907 Speaker 2: in fifteen or twenty years from now. If you and 154 00:08:24,947 --> 00:08:26,947 Speaker 2: I are still doing this segment on a Sunday, we 155 00:08:27,027 --> 00:08:30,347 Speaker 2: can say and x y Z wasn't even born when 156 00:08:30,387 --> 00:08:32,467 Speaker 2: Carlos Alcarez won his first major. 157 00:08:33,387 --> 00:08:36,347 Speaker 3: That's right. That's how crazy this game of tennis is. 158 00:08:36,427 --> 00:08:40,587 Speaker 3: So I mean, it's it's actually he's an incredible player, 159 00:08:40,627 --> 00:08:43,787 Speaker 3: al Karez, but since he won Wimbledon last year, Remember 160 00:08:43,827 --> 00:08:45,867 Speaker 3: he's won Wimbledon, which is pretty good for a Spandard. 161 00:08:45,947 --> 00:08:48,427 Speaker 3: You know what they're like, they love the clay. So 162 00:08:48,547 --> 00:08:50,867 Speaker 3: since he's won Wimbledon, he's only won one other tournament, 163 00:08:50,987 --> 00:08:53,467 Speaker 3: so you can tell he's got that. That's sort of 164 00:08:53,507 --> 00:08:56,067 Speaker 3: one of the great mentalities, which is I've got to 165 00:08:56,067 --> 00:08:58,067 Speaker 3: get up for the French Open, and that's what he's done. 166 00:08:58,107 --> 00:09:01,467 Speaker 3: Let's see if he can lock it away and that'll 167 00:09:01,507 --> 00:09:05,147 Speaker 3: be his third I think Grand Slam one, maybe fourth? 168 00:09:05,187 --> 00:09:08,387 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah that sounds right, that sounds right. Hey, just 169 00:09:08,427 --> 00:09:11,747 Speaker 2: before you go this time next week, the Euros will 170 00:09:11,747 --> 00:09:15,707 Speaker 2: have started the means European Football Championship would have done. 171 00:09:15,787 --> 00:09:18,667 Speaker 2: Did you see England lost to Iceland yesterday? 172 00:09:19,547 --> 00:09:22,227 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know Iceland three hundred thousand people are pretty 173 00:09:22,227 --> 00:09:27,787 Speaker 3: good football. So look they are experimenting. They've done some 174 00:09:28,827 --> 00:09:32,787 Speaker 3: South Gates dropped, Jack Grealish and some really talented players. 175 00:09:33,267 --> 00:09:35,707 Speaker 3: I will be our cresis third Grand Slam, that's right. 176 00:09:35,787 --> 00:09:40,267 Speaker 3: So but with it should be France or Spain. Spain 177 00:09:40,347 --> 00:09:42,627 Speaker 3: needs to work out out of score goals and not 178 00:09:42,827 --> 00:09:46,427 Speaker 3: just hold the ball right. So that's the way I 179 00:09:46,507 --> 00:09:49,627 Speaker 3: feel that France obviously with him Barpe and you know, 180 00:09:49,707 --> 00:09:53,307 Speaker 3: following on from losing that World Cup final, they'll get 181 00:09:53,307 --> 00:09:55,427 Speaker 3: the job done. But all eyes for me, I always 182 00:09:55,467 --> 00:09:58,987 Speaker 3: look at England and I'm excited about a player who 183 00:09:59,027 --> 00:10:02,987 Speaker 3: plays for Crystal Palace of all places, and so you'll 184 00:10:02,987 --> 00:10:07,307 Speaker 3: have to remember the name. His name is ever RICHI 185 00:10:07,627 --> 00:10:12,267 Speaker 3: is a Ebbie is his name, and he is a 186 00:10:12,427 --> 00:10:19,667 Speaker 3: number ten playmaking midfielder, attacker. Look, Caine, Foden, Sucker and 187 00:10:19,707 --> 00:10:22,267 Speaker 3: Bellingham will be the main men for England. But I 188 00:10:22,267 --> 00:10:24,747 Speaker 3: think it's quite cool that a player from an unfashionable club, 189 00:10:24,827 --> 00:10:26,787 Speaker 3: let's say, can maybe come in there and make a 190 00:10:26,867 --> 00:10:27,547 Speaker 3: name for himself. 191 00:10:27,867 --> 00:10:31,867 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I'm looking forward to watching Scotland play, particularly 192 00:10:31,907 --> 00:10:34,707 Speaker 2: in the opening game against Germany next Saturday morning at 193 00:10:34,747 --> 00:10:39,507 Speaker 2: seven some breakfast time football involving the Scotts. I love it. 194 00:10:39,627 --> 00:10:42,187 Speaker 3: The Scott's are in the group of death, the group 195 00:10:42,227 --> 00:10:47,747 Speaker 3: of McBeth A bit of a worry for them, poney, 196 00:10:47,867 --> 00:10:50,027 Speaker 3: But yes, I'm looking forward to Scotland as well, and 197 00:10:50,067 --> 00:10:52,867 Speaker 3: of course tuning early because they sing, Yes, sir, I 198 00:10:52,907 --> 00:10:56,827 Speaker 3: can boggie or boogie as they see in Scotland. And 199 00:10:57,427 --> 00:11:00,387 Speaker 3: that's always We're seeing that, all these hardened scott singing 200 00:11:00,467 --> 00:11:03,667 Speaker 3: a disco classic from the seventies. You should play that 201 00:11:03,707 --> 00:11:06,867 Speaker 3: song actually, maybe in the next break and. 202 00:11:06,867 --> 00:11:09,107 Speaker 2: Find it, and I will certainly endeavor to do so. 203 00:11:09,227 --> 00:11:10,947 Speaker 2: Great the chat is always, mate, and great to see 204 00:11:10,947 --> 00:11:12,667 Speaker 2: you the other night. Always good to catch up on 205 00:11:12,667 --> 00:11:15,507 Speaker 2: the flesh. James mccaroney big part of our Sunday's one 206 00:11:15,707 --> 00:11:19,067 Speaker 2: forty five or thereabouts. He joins us every Sunday afternoon 207 00:11:19,587 --> 00:11:22,787 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine listen live 208 00:11:22,907 --> 00:11:26,187 Speaker 1: to News Talk set B weekends from midday, or follow 209 00:11:26,227 --> 00:11:27,827 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio