1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now. As you know here at Hither Doublasyellen Drive, we 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: love a fad, and I've got a good fad for you. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Never mind the quiet quitting, or the bare minimum mondays 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: or the four day work weeks. We've got chrono working now, 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: which is basically we're instead of working from nine to 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: five Monday to Friday, you set your hours based on 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: your personal cycadian rhythm. Now. Stuart Nash is the commercial 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: director of Robert walshon with Us Walters and with Us 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: now Hallo Stewart. 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: Neither hell, are you good to talk to you again? 11 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: It's good to talk to you. This is a dumb idea, 12 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: isn't it. 13 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: Ok. We've been working to our circadian rether than for 14 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: thousands of years, so this is just going back to 15 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: how we were, you know, before we had before we 16 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 2: hit lamps and lights and nasty bosses. 17 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? We were working in the 18 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: day daytime and sleeping in the nighttime. 19 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: How did you pursue we were? You know we'd worked 20 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: with me at ninety five when it win tonight. The 21 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: thing about this is you know we all know this. 22 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I've got four kids, right go to 23 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: twenty two years and nineteen year old. The twenty two 24 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: year old will get up at five am, the nineteen 25 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: year old get up at ten. Any of your listeners 26 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: with teenagers know that this is how it works. So 27 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: what we're saying now is, hey, you know what the 28 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: best way to get productivity out of the work is. 29 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: It's just let them work when they're productive. But I 30 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: will say back to your point, this is not an 31 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: excuse to be lazy. This is not an excuse to 32 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: start works. 33 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: You I know, and what industry would this work? 34 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's already working in things like it 35 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: right where you go, where you've got programmers and people 36 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: who don't need to necessarily meet clients. We don't need 37 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: to be in the office at nine and stay until five. 38 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: It's really those who are independent. I mean, I'll be 39 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: honest with you. I sort of work this way. I 40 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: mean I started about nine and I finish it at 41 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: ten at night. But I take two hours off in 42 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: the middle of the day for a year. Star I 43 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: work with no I just sort of meet interesting people 44 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: like you. I am, but I do well occasionally. You've 45 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: got to keep healthy. But it's letting people work in 46 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: a way that is most productive to them, as opposed 47 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: to say, if you're not in the office by eight, 48 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: then you're in trouble. You if you don't stay until five, 49 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: then you're out of here. 50 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: Listen, I mean, isn't this basically just modern flexibility in 51 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: the workplace because we work on global economy and we're 52 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: just we want to stick weird labels on it. But 53 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: it's just another way of describing flexibility, isn't it? 54 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: One hundred percent? That's I mean, look, the bottom line 55 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: is when you get to a certain level, you've got 56 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: to trust your workers, right, I mean, you know, not 57 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: eve one can be your boss. But there's a lot 58 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 2: of the people that adds in going to an organization, 59 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: and it's basically letting them work in a way that 60 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: optimizes there their outputting their potential. That's all it is. 61 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, thank you very much, really appreciate it's to you. 62 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: Always interesting to talk to you. That Stuart Nash, Robert 63 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: Walter's commercial director. 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