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Speaker 1: Perhaps not surprisingly, having made this country the most expensive

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Speaker 1: place to bring a ship in the world, Disney Cruisers

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Speaker 1: have announced they're off and will not be back. They

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Speaker 1: pulled the plug on the New Zealand Australia market. The

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Speaker 1: twenty five to twenty six season is going to be

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Speaker 1: the last. Jackie Lloyd's the boss of the New Zealand

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Speaker 1: Cruise Association and as with us, Jackie, very good morning

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Speaker 1: to you. Nan. Can we lay this on the doorstep

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Speaker 1: of Australia and blame them or is it all our fault?

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a mix of both, Mike,

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Speaker 2: it's both New Zealand and Australia. I feel this time round.

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Speaker 1: Are they as expensive as we are to come and look, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not one hundred percent sure. We don't have that full detail,

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Speaker 2: but there is an indication that both New Zealand and

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Speaker 2: Australia within the region, the charges that we are putting

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Speaker 2: in are quite expensive. So while New Zealand differently is

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Speaker 2: very expensive, I think Australia is cooking at our heels

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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: See. I asked the Prime Minister about this the other

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Speaker 1: day because this concerns me immeasurably given out to a situation.

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Speaker 1: He says they're working on it. Do you know that

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Speaker 1: to be true?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, I do. We've had some really good meetings

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Speaker 2: with government. We've got some very engaged ministers with Minister Upston, Hoggard, Costello,

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Speaker 2: Meager and also Minister Brown and we've been working really

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Speaker 2: closely with them on solutions. So it is a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a moment to sort of turn the dial,

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Speaker 2: but we are getting good steps in with government.

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Speaker 1: If you could kill the cost and the red tape,

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Speaker 1: would it materially make a difference.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it would. We would still need to do some

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Speaker 2: additional promotion because ships are leaving, we'll need to actually

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Speaker 2: go back out to market them to bring them back,

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Speaker 2: but definitely would make a big difference. And we've had

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Speaker 2: an indication from the line so that if we do

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Speaker 2: get things right, we'd be able to see you change

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Speaker 2: as early as twenty seven twenty eight season. We're too

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Speaker 2: late for twenty six twenty seven at the moment, but

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Speaker 2: it would definitely make a difference.

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Speaker 1: So there is hope because the numbers are dropping, they're

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Speaker 1: falling off a cliff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and it doesn't sound very good, does it,

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Speaker 2: But no, there is hope. There is absolutely hope, and

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Speaker 2: we certainly have hopes for Disney too. They've said that

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Speaker 2: the door is open. They're interested in coming back to

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Speaker 2: New Zealand and Australia, and we'll give their guests the

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Speaker 2: best possible experiences this summer to ensure that they have

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Speaker 2: great memories and they want to come back in future.

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Speaker 1: Good fingers crossed, let's see we can get director together

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Speaker 1: Jacki Lloyd, who's the New Zealand Cruise Association boss. For

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