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Speaker 1: One of the greats is on his way here to

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Speaker 1: celebrate thirty years since the release of his third album,

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Speaker 1: and what an album it was, Greg Johnson Vine Street

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Speaker 1: Stories of course, which includes my favorite all time if

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Speaker 1: I Swagger or is it I waver a bit on that.

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Speaker 2: Greg Johnson is with us morning.

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Speaker 3: Mate, doctor Michael Hoskins.

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Speaker 1: So how are you a happy New Year and all

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Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. It sort of feels weird talking

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Speaker 1: to a person in the middle of the fire zone

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Speaker 1: in Santa Monica and wishing the new year, because it

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Speaker 1: really hasn't been, hasn't It's been?

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Speaker 4: I mean a show of you know, the type of

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Speaker 4: show that comes out at the bottom of latrine from

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Speaker 4: start finish for me this year so far, but having seid,

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Speaker 4: that's all. It's February now, so maybe things are going

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Speaker 4: to turn around, you know.

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Speaker 2: Well I hope. So did you see the fire Raid

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Speaker 2: concert last week?

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Speaker 4: I did not see that content. In fact, I didn't

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Speaker 4: see a shred of it. I was in studio the

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Speaker 4: whole time, so but I heard it was very good.

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Speaker 1: It was very good. It was fantastic. Where's you're in,

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Speaker 1: Santa Monica? Where where is it? It seems to be.

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Speaker 1: It was the worst thing that happened. But the communities

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Speaker 1: come together and there is some sort of hope around

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Speaker 1: rebuilding and moving forward. Is that fair or not?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think so it was. I mean it's fascinating. I mean,

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Speaker 4: i'll give you a quick rundown. I came out of

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Speaker 4: those mountains and on that Tuesday and thought, oh god,

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Speaker 4: something's blown up. I thought there'd been a plane crash.

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Speaker 4: And then later that day, of course, it was all underway.

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Speaker 4: The thing that sticks to my mind from that first

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Speaker 4: we went down to the bluffs to see the planes

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Speaker 4: picking up the water and everything, and a guy in

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Speaker 4: his late model Porsche. Guy in his fifties, I suppose,

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Speaker 4: and in the back seat he had two large paintings

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Speaker 4: And I thought, Wow, that's that's kind of this is

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Speaker 1: You know, that's also very California, though, isn't it. Porsche,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like wow, I mean, it's been pretty awful.

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Speaker 4: But I have to say, it's kind of like it's

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Speaker 4: really like if Remi RIrA was just suddenly an ashes

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Speaker 4: So and everything, and we were like an Allesley. So

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Speaker 4: you know, the evacuation got to within two blocks of us.

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Speaker 4: And I have to say, on that evening we had

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Speaker 4: a voluntary evacuation, I said to my family, I was like,

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Speaker 4: you know, I would really never have thought that Santa

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Speaker 4: I'm actually thinking now maybe it could. So I think

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Speaker 2: How much of that for people?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming a lot of people listening to

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Speaker 4: Well, I've got to say, I mean I've always thought,

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Speaker 4: large king tide of some sort as well. But I

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Speaker 4: think that what that reflects, and the fact that it

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Speaker 4: I'll rush out and do any wash, any shoes I

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Speaker 3: It's incredible, and then that wind just started up.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the arguments about who could afford it and

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Speaker 4: that's basically what they could do for the first until

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Speaker 1: So how much of what we heard and it did

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Speaker 1: the fish was called. How much of that was true?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think that there's there's you know, like

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Speaker 4: most things that come out these days, there's a tiny

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Speaker 3: But I don't think it would have made a shred

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, there's there's plenty of blame. I mean,

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Speaker 4: people forget that all politicians are essentially awful idiots who

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Speaker 4: deserve disdain of all stripes because you're the type of

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Speaker 4: people that get involved with in the first place. Ninety

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Speaker 4: nine point nine percent horrible people. So you know that's

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Speaker 4: in my limited experience, thankfully limited experience of meeting any

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Speaker 4: think Honestly, nothing much could have stopped it. I think

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Speaker 4: designing houses that because the people had design houses to

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Speaker 3: Are they cheap?

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe it's not that expensive to put a whole

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Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, Greg, When Vine Street Stories came out your

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Speaker 1: third album, where in your memory do you think you

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Speaker 4: At just kind of head down writing and making music. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: To number three or four. I at four, I think when,

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Speaker 4: Setting up there and the chart, I naively assumed that

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Speaker 3: You know that's stupid, can you beg But.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, Yeah, I just actually moved from my indie label

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Speaker 4: it actually got quite a lot of traction. I think

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Speaker 4: it was my first gold album.

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Speaker 1: Where does it sit in terms of all your work?

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Speaker 1: Do you think of it fondly in that sense?

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Speaker 3: I do, yeah, I very much do.

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Speaker 4: Strangely, it doesn't really have well, it has swagger on it,

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Speaker 4: as you say, it's one of my favorites, and Pleasure

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Speaker 4: and Overdose is also a favorite. It has don't Wait

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Speaker 4: in fact the song I've earned the most money off.

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Speaker 4: I think I should have written more songs over my

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Speaker 4: I do have good memories of that record though. It

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Speaker 1: Know, how do you know, how do you when you

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Speaker 1: say you've made more money out of one another day?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, each song exists on its own, I mean album

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Speaker 4: They're re releasing Bones Street Stories as Vinyl as well,

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Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, I just started getting back into it.

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Speaker 4: It was only about ten four, ten years ago when

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Speaker 4: for about forty dollars. Now, of course it's it's all

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Speaker 3: I do like Vinyl, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's got to it has a very I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what I'm I find interesting. Anyway, when CDs

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Speaker 3: Right now? You're right?

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Speaker 4: I think well, because they were listening through tiny little

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Speaker 3: That's probably half of.

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Speaker 2: It, exactly. Do you like hippy Swager?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I love that song. Yeah, I mean it's to me.

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Speaker 4: I think it's probably one of my best songs without

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Speaker 4: dat as a writer, you know, I just think it's Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Because I've got several versions when I listened to it

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Speaker 1: I didn't know there was a wedding version, but there's

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Speaker 1: a wedding version of it. That's a nice one. Do

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Speaker 3: Do you know?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: People have? Many people have, actually, and it's always surprised me.

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Speaker 4: Because it's really not a song that bodes well for

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Speaker 4: a good marriage. My favorite story about that one is

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Speaker 3: The famous Scottish wrestler.

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Speaker 2: Old Robert Bruce.

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Speaker 4: Robert Bruce had requested that to be played at which

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Speaker 4: I thought, there's no higher you know, this high than.

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Speaker 1: That, really exactly if I got married to it? Do

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Speaker 1: I have to pay you? Is that how that works? Uh?

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Speaker 4: Probably not. It's a private function, but you know, if

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Speaker 1: The point, all right, mate? So so do you do

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Speaker 1: it on this tour? Are you doing the whole album

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Speaker 1: like you do the whole album plus nothing else or what?

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Speaker 3: That's the plan?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to come on and play the songs

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Speaker 4: the album start to finish. Probably the first set we'll

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Speaker 4: do that, and it's about just.

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Speaker 3: Over and how long that record?

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Speaker 4: Brilliant is another thing we discovered and we decided to

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Speaker 4: put it on vinyl. That you can only put forty

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Speaker 4: five minutes on vinyl, so you have to be a

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Speaker 4: double album.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But yeah, we'll play the whole album and then

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Speaker 4: the second set will play a bunch of other stuff

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Speaker 4: I guess from the newer albums and other older albums.

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Speaker 4: But that's the exciting thing, is reinventing and some of

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Speaker 4: these songs have never been played live before. Even when

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Speaker 4: we're the recorded they were never played live, so it's

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Speaker 4: it's a fun challenge.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's going to be good.

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Speaker 1: Well, hopefully we'll catch up when you hear mate, go

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Speaker 1: well in the meantime end of April, I'll run through

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Speaker 1: all the play. But you're going to Hamilton Tower on

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Speaker 1: going south of Christ Jude.

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Speaker 3: Not this time. I don't know why. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I think maybe because there's no Queen Charlotte oysters or

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Speaker 4: no Queen Charlotte scallops in season or something. There's there'll

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Speaker 4: be a reason, probably culinary reason for that. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: Plus one dot Co Doddings is where you go to

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Speaker 4: get all that stuff. I look forward to coming down.

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Speaker 4: I wish I was sitting on a beach down there

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Go well mate, Nice to catch up as always, and

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Speaker 1: we'll see see you hopefully.

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Speaker 3: Any good yere and much love to everybody see soon.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that good? Isn't it the nicest going on the world?

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Speaker 1: Greg Johnson and Vine Street Stories.

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Speaker 4: news talks.

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