1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: The Prime Minister's chosen not to go to White Tanngi 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: on Whiteitangi Day. In a statement, Luxen has said he's 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: going to join New Zealand is celebrating the day in 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: other regions. The last time this happened was in twenty seventeen, 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: when then Prime Minister Sir Bill English chose not to 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: attend Peta Tippani as chairman of the White Tangi National Trust. 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: Cider Pita Kida ran, how did you find out about this? 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: I found out when the Prime Minister called me earlier 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: this afternoon. 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: What do you say? 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: He said? Unfortunately, I won't be at Waititanngy twenty twenty 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: five and I will be elsewhere in the country because 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: I've received invitations from other EWE leaders and so I've 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: committed myself to going to those places. 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Fair enough and share the love. I guess. 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: A no, not from mo perspectives. So being the chairman 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: of the Waitungi National Trust, which is a national trust, 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: and our job being Koichiaki all guardians of not only 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: the physical environment way the treaty grounds, but what it 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: represents in terms of our niaghtionhood. So where else would 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: you want to be or would you need to be 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,919 Speaker 2: to remember and respect those who have fallen at Gettysburg. 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: Well that yeah, look you make a good point there. 24 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: What about these claims from you know, Rwity yet says 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister is quote drop nuts because he's not 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: going to White Tangy because he might get beaten up 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: or there might be you know, Willie Jackson has suggested 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: he could have got himself into some physical harm. Is 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: that true? Are you buying any of that? 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: Oh? Look, any White Toy day as a cauldron, let alone. 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: What's going to happen next year? Give him the Treaty 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: Principles Bill and everything else that's going on, it will 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: be potentially more volatile than it ever will has been. 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: So can you understand him not wanting to be there 35 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: if it's going to get physical? 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: Oh look, I can totally understand that. But what we 37 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: at the Waiting National Trust do most is to ensure 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: everybody's safety. And in fact, when we talk about the 39 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: Prime Minister, we are merely upholding our tik or our customs, 40 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: which means that we will welcome all all people of 41 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: whatever political stripe and whatever opinion that includes the Prime Minister. 42 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 2: So we want to know or want people to know 43 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: that they are welcome and we will do our utmost 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: to ensure their safety. That might be difficult at times, 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: but we'll do our damn our dundest. 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: All right, Peter, thank you very much for that. Peter 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: Tippani is the chairman of the White Tangi National Trusts. 48 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: Christopher Luxan not going to White Tangi next year. 49 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to 50 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 51 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.